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/sthg/ #466 - Fast Food Edition
>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK
>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b
>News/Developments<
Sonic Boom: Fire & Ice Launch Edition Announced
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/06/sonic-boom-fire-ice-launch-edition-announced/
Runners is Dead.
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/05/sonic-runners-shutting-down-next-month/
Archie Action Solicits for August/September
http://comicsalliance.com/archie-action-releases-for-august-2016-solicitations/
New Mario and Sonic at the 2016 Olympic Games (Wii U) Trailer Released
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/05/new-near-5-min-japanese-overview-trailer-of-ms-rio-2016-wii-u-released/
Sonic the Hedgehog Has Been Inducted Into The Video Game Hall of Fame
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/05/sonic-the-hedgehog-has-been-inducted-into-the-video-game-hall-of-fame/
Sonic Voice Actors Appearing at Sonic Revolution
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/05/colleen-oshaughnessey-to-appear-at-sonic-revolution/
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/05/amy-va-cindy-robinson-coming-to-sonic-revolution/
Yes Even More Sonic 25th Anniversary Details Posted! E3 ‘Sonic’ Event planned!
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/05/yes-even-more-sonic-25th-anniversary-details-posted-e3-sonic-event-planned/
>Recent Releases<
Sonic Lost World has released on Steam!
Sonic Boom's first season has ended! You can watch all of the first season's episodes in English here:
http://www.watchcartoononline.com/anime/sonic-boom
Previous Thread: >>144213358
First for fucking autism.
Finally caught up. Amy going gaga for Honey the cat made me laugh, it's nice that she's not got Sonic on the brain 24/7 like she does in the games and Knuckles isn't that much of a dumbass. Marine seems just as annoying as ever tho but where's Eggman Nega?
fast
>>144446675
Archie isn't allowed to use Nega because Sega has no idea what the fuck he is. Glad you're still enjoying the comic!
Except Runners is dead
>post yfw Sega announced Mario and SonicBoom
>>144446675
Nega isn't allowed to show up because reasons.
>>144446880
I don't even know when E3 even is
>>144446675
>but where's Eggman Nega?
Probably not showing up for a while. SEGA wasn't letting them use him for a long time because they didn't want the comics to potentially contradict any future use of the characterthat probably is never going to happen anyway. Now they can use him but he's still got issues because they never kept his character straight between Rush and Rivals.
>>144446875
>>144446897
They've actually been able to use him for a while. He cameoed in the beginning of Treasure Team Tango I think.
>>144446880
>melty face Nicole
>huge forehead Sally
Truly this is art.
Post yfw there will be no game.
>>144446880
the same as always
>>144447025
>He cameoed in the beginning of Treasure Team Tango I think.
No he didn't. A completely unrelated character named Dr. Nega did. :^)
>>144446880
Awkward press conferences, Nintendo being the best by virtue of practically not showing up, and nothing big Sonic-related from SEGA since there's the other event coming up. Hoping they've got some other franchise games in the works though.
>>144446230
>>144447025
Actually, Sega confirmed a couple years back that they're running with his Rivals backstory.
>>144447191
I love doing stuff like that at resteraunts.
So, who's going?
>>144447184
>here's the other event coming up
What other event?
>>144447268
>going with the back story from the spin-off series nobody likes over Rush
Sounds legit.
>>144447176
Oh yeah, forgot that. Pretty sure I remember reading somewhere Ian saying that they can use him now, but I could be wrong.
The fact that they can't use Eggman's classic design but keep sneaking him in his hilarious though.
>>144447268
Makes sense, since it allows you to easily combine the two. Originally from the future, zone jumps into Blaze's dimension and tries to take over.
>>144447398
"Special"
Who okayed this?
>>144447398
>>144447318
I hate people that drawfag in public
>>144447398
I hope he accidently into a knife
>>144447450
The one in July that was announced at the otherwise pointless SXSW panel that happened for some reason.
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/03/sonic-25th-anniversary-event-announced-for-july/
Plus there's the Anniversary party at Joypolis on the 23rd.
>>144447398
>it's real
>Ken Penders is attending .@SonicRevolt as a guest. An artist table & panel on history of Sonic comics will be held.
What the actual fuck
>>144447398
>>144447664
I hope a crazy comic fan shows up and goes crazy stabby him.
>>144447398
>this is happening next weekend
Well, at least it might give us aboost
>>144447398
>>144447398
So... any of us going there? Maybe we could finally confront him about his bullshit.
>>144448169
>Finally
People have confronted him on it for years. His forum is filled with it.
He's trumpfag-tier teflon in deflecting any argument or idea that might possibly go against his inner narrative.
>>144448169
>/sthg/ deathsquad
/r/ing Bump with a helmet and camo clothing
>>144448390
But he cannot do that easily in person.
>>144448169
Don't bother, anything told to him that is rational he labels that person as a troll.
>>144448169
I don't think confronting him would go well for anyone. It certainly wouldn't be effective in any way.
>>144446875
I am, this is much better than the game plots. I'm actually excited for the day Jet and his buddies show up properly, not so much the deadly six. I really hate those guys. They felt like they belong on a dreamworks nick show rather than Sonic.
>>144446875
>>144446897
Weird.
>>144447025
What else could Sega possibly do with Nega? The most he did was try to drown a fucking snow spirit in a game where all the bad guys were just being petty at thinking they were intentionally left out of the games.
>>144447903
I he a writer from the old comics I barely touched? Because somebody really should of told him to learn to draw and that he took this franchise's story way to seriously. I needed need to see a cover of Sonic crying over a break up with his girlfriend. Too weird.
If Penders diesthen who will become the next Penders?
>>144448716
If his wife and son are just as retarded as he is?
>>144448628
http://theamazingsallyhogan.tumblr.com/post/68112487973/sonic-the-hedgehog-ken-penders-bioware
>>144447398
>It's real
THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN
>>144447481
I enjoyed Rivals 2 a great deal, actually. It's a simple game, and it takes some getting used to, but once that's done with it plays better than it looks.
>>144448501
Controlled environment. You wouldn't have long enough to pin him between one piece of BS and the next.
>>144448773
Someone really needs to write a better overview than that. Hogan was excusing Penders shit way too much.
>>144448771
His wife is rich and the only reason he isn't starving. She has to be somewhat crazy to put up with him, but I don't think she's the same brand of crazy. I don't think his family really cares about any of this.
>>144448169
We'd have to be subtle. Like 10 guys in a row ask him to sign the same post-reboot comic.
I know he hates that shit.
Why does Eggman Nega call the world he and Blaze came from "our world" in Sonic Rush and Rush Adventure, if he's a descendant of Eggman from the future?
>>144448959
I've written some summaries in threads a while ago, but when I don't feel like writing it all up I link to that. Maybe I'll write up a pastebin. We can put it up in the OP where no one will ever see it.
>>144449162
There's one that I've written that I gave to TC a long while back.
He pastebinned it but I have no idea where it went.
>>144449142
Because he doesn't want to blow his cover and cause potential time issues when he's in the middle of trying to cause an interdimensional crash.
Amy's the cutest of cute!
>>144449604
>Amy
That's a strange way to spell Tikal.
So now that the characters from the comic look way more like Sonic characters than the games (looking at the deadly six in particular) it's high time we get a cameo or two.
I hear there are legal issues, but surely there's no problem if Archie just agrees to not sue?
>>144449885
Not sure what legal issues you're talking about. SEGA owns everything in the comic and always has, even more so with anything that's still around.
>>144448628
I find the Deadly Six to be disturbingly similar to Dark Ages characters. Their visual style is off, their characterization is shallow and half-hearted, and their presence invites edgelording greater than even that of Shadow's game. (See: 'I'll get fat eating your black hearts!')
So I agree completely. The Babylon Rogues were simple but straightforward rivals. These... things are wasted potential, and I don't bet anyone's going to put in the TLC to get us even one Lien-da out of the group.
>>144449885
It's never gonna.happen man. Sega doesn't care about the comic characters at all. In fact, Ian and the creative team had to fight to keep the SatAM Freedom Fighters in the book.
>>144450047
>and their presence invites edgelording greater than even that of Shadow's game. (See: 'I'll get fat eating your black hearts!')
That scene was great though.
>>144449310
You could say that, or you could say that or you could say that Sega gave no fucks and they hadn't bothered about Sonic Rival's story at all. After all, These are the same people who thought Tails having a bitchfit about have to team with Eggman despite doing it several times before was a good narrative choice. Man, what were they thinking with Lost world? The whole thing reeked of zero effort.
>>144450103
They should just fucking make a spin-off Archie game.
>>144449885
>Archie
>suing for things they don't actually own
Pretty sure any characters created in the comic are owned by SEGA.
>>144449451
Wow, Maria's as sick of this shit as we are.I like Super Blaze though,
>>144450224
Say it with me now
>THANKS PONTAF AND GRAF
>THANKS IIZUKA
>>144450271
Of all the millions of romhacks, mods and fangames you'd think we'd get something a bit more worthwhile than Sally in Sonic 1.
The sad part is that all the original autists are grown now, they don't have time for games. We missed the opportunity.
>>144450224
>You could say that, or you could say that or you could say that Sega gave no fucks and they hadn't bothered about Sonic Rival's story at all.
Well that's obvious, but it doesn't mean I can't come up with reasons for characters actions that are simply and make sense even if not stated in game.
>After all, These are the same people who thought Tails having a bitchfit about have to team with Eggman despite doing it several times before was a good narrative choice. Man, what were they thinking with Lost world? The whole thing reeked of zero effort.
Actually it was different people. It's the first time that Tails has teamed up with Eggman in a Pontaff game. Of course, if Sonic Team told them to actually research the previous games then they would have known this has happened before, but they didn't.
>>144450437
>The sad part is that all the original autists are grown now, they don't have time for games.
Nah, they're grown now, and have tons of disposable income.
I want Mina back, someone needs to get off their ass and get Bollers to sign it over.
>>144450518
>if Sonic Team told them to actually research the previous games then they would have known this has happened before, but they didn't.
Way too much work for either of them.
>>144450430
>>144450518
They have different writers for the games? I always assumed it was just Iizuka writing as he's told. That seems like a very disorganized practice, then again, everything about the games feels like there's barely any communication going on at Sega.
Huh, maybe they really do have a "We don't give a fuck, just have it out by the holiday season" mentality over there. Because they clearly learned nothing from sonic 06, the game they hyped as the next big step for Sonic and having all of that interesting shit being teased.
>>144450271
>Archie spin-off game
>outsourced to literally who
>written not by Ian, but Pontac and Graff
>only comic characters that show up are the FF and maybe one or two of the Egg Bosses
>literally who inc. decides to make it a brawler even though it hasn't worked the past several times it's been tried
>dev time of a year
>gets panned critically
>"lol who are these characters, wow sonic has so many friends they really need to stop XD who reads comics lmao"
>>144450716
No thank you, she was shit and every scene she was in was shit.
>>144450313
Pretty sure there's a legal embargo. That's why there were Archie characters in Sonic Spinball - It was made in America.
>>144450906
>maybe one or two of the Egg Bosses
>implying I wouldn't play it just to hear their theme song
>>144450906
Or, they can put in some effort.Let me dream anon
>>144450716
>During Sonic's absence, she became a famous pop singer who performs for the Acorn Royal Guard in order to boost their spirits in the war against Robotnik; Mina lives in Knothole City with her mother, Isabel, but is currently on tour; Ash the mongoose is her boyfriend and manager; Mina still holds deep feelings for Sonic, but her heart belongs to Ash; in the upcoming "Song Sung Blue" 2-parter, Robotnik dispatches updated versions of Heavy and Bomb to assassinate Mina because he allegedly hates her singing (the truth of the matter is that he can't stand being a closet Mina fan); Sally assigns Sonic to act as Mina's bodyguard, which Ash doesn't like at all; adding tension to the situation, is the fact that all of Mina's song lyrics appear to be (subconsciously) directed toward Sonic (hence the title)
How about never ever?
>>144450716
He'd do it to. He didn't even know about any of the character rights issues until fans told him, he's actually still working, and he really doesn't care about the Sonic comics. Also he hates Penders.
>>144450824
>tfw the writer for the movie that will either never get made or have the script gutted has done more research than the game writers.
>>144450895
Iizuka only wrote the story for one game, Shadow. Most games have a writer from Sonic Team, but since Sonic Colors there have been two American writers doing the scripts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Tqt2iLFrGo
>>144450219
Of course. Eggman makes even weak villains seem grand by his involvement. His personality is just that great. I just wish they were that entertaining when Mike Pollock wasn't in the room, is all.
>>144450103
It's not that they don't care.
Its sort of like how Disney is autistic and won't let Disney television characters interact with movie characters, or let any of the princess acknowledge each other, or have Disney and Marvel and Star War mix up in Infinity.
SEGA is autistic.
>>144451315
>Iizuka writing for a game
Is he actually credited as the writer?
>>144451334
Eggman needs to rethink his whole game shtick. Take Thunderbolt - She's weak, she's not too bright but the simple fact that she didn't hate Eggman led her to take two chaos emeralds and master shards with the resources at her disposal alone.
If half the egg bosses didn't want his head on a pike he could never lose.
>>144450906
>decides to make it a brawler even though it hasn't worked the past several times
I stand by my belief that Sonic Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog would've been wonderful had they been developed as beat-em-ups.
>>144447481
>>144448821
Well, Silver's personality changed in between 06 and Rivals because the future changed after 06. It's possible that Nega's backstory changed because of the circumstances surrounding the ending of 06.
>>144450895
Would it kill you to take two minutes and look at the production credits for the games, which are publicly available on various sites? Iizuka is the current producer of the games since Colors and former director from Adventure to Shadow. The only game he actually wrote was Shadow. Pontac and Graff have been writing for the games since Colors. Iizuka is overall in charge of the games themselves while Pontac and Graff take the basic story he gives them and turns it into a script.
>>144450716
This.Proud minafag.
>>144449142
He's a descendant who fell into an alternate dimension.
>>144451315
>Iizuka only wrote the story for one game, Shadow. Most games have a writer from Sonic Team, but since Sonic Colors there have been two American writers doing the scripts.
Let me guess, the American writers are the types who haven't touched a single game in the series and probably came from failed cartoon shows or live television I'd find on CW. I can almost imagine a whip noise being heard every time Sonic cracks a joke. If I hear Baldy mcnosehair one more time I'm muting the entire game.
>>144450939
They're not 'Archie' characters, they're not owned by Archie in any capacity.
>>144451737
Yup. They also wrote Happy Tree Friends. So naturally they fit Sonic
>>144451737
>the American writers are the types who haven't touched a single game in the series and probably came from failed cartoon shows or live television I'd find on CW
Close: they never touched a single game in the series and wrote for Happy Tree Friends.
>>144450271
Why would they bother making a spin-off game of a niche comic book they have little creative participation in and is only read by a very small fraction of the fanbase?
More people are watching and loving Boom than will ever touch an Archie Sonic comic book.
>>144451884
Couldn't you say the same for say Ant-Man?
>someone finally started porting the Sochi models to Gens and LW
>but with Rio coming out its kinda pointless
Fuck me man.
>>144451574
I agree.
The problem isn't the beat'em-up formula. That's worked for tons of games. The problem is sticking that formula in a game that also has speed parts.
This has been sonic's problem for years. Sega just needs to pick a fucking street and take it. If you want to make differing playstyles, put them in different games.
>>144449604
Amy is a cute! A CUTE!
>>144450716
Mina is only allowed to come back if her singing powers a giant robot.
>>144450047
>These... things are wasted potential, and I don't bet anyone's going to put in the TLC to get us even one Lien-da out of the group.
I believe in Ian.
>>144451884
>More people are watching and loving Boom than will ever touch an Archie Sonic comic book.
>that spin off no one cared about
>>144452241
Pretty sick of the Olympics, honestly
>>144450716
Why? She never did anything of note.
>>144451737
They watched some cutscenes, if that counts.
>>144452169
Hell, it's arguably not even the most popular Sonic comicbook. But in the stone age...!
>>144452241
Meanwhile every M&S olympic game has outsold every Sonic game except 2 by a wide margin.
>>144452349
Not either of the Minafags but she was a bundle of wasted potential and the reboot would be a perfect excuse to retool her.
>>144452336
I think this game came out around the time the second M&S game came out, Sega tried to get Nintendo to jump into mobile with them but Nintendo said no and you get this mess
>>144452434
>Hell, it's arguably not even the most popular Sonic comicbook.
I would like to see that bad argument.
>>144451849
>>144451868
Fucking Happy Tree Friends? The show whose sole humor was brutal gory mauling of it's cast? Oh, Sega,what logic was this decision based on?
>>144452515
>idol characters
Nah, we don't need THAT kind of autism in Sonic.
>>144452574
lowest bidder
>>144452515
Nah, she's unsalvageable.
>>144452349
Wasn't that essentially the problem? She had a great set-up to be something great, but was pushed to the background and made a singer because reasons?
>>144452680
She was literally created for the sole purpose of adding soap opera love triangle romance drama bullshit.
>>144452680
>she had a great setup
>teenage girl who also has Sonic's power but a tragic past because angst
No, she was literally a Mary-Sue.
>>144452606
I don't care about Mina personally, but I liked there was a in-universe celebrity in the comic, that was an actual character with personality and motivations.
It made the world feel more complete, instead of just the Main Characters traveling around saving the day for nameless extras.
>>144451462
>Scenario Writer: Takashi Iizuka
http://info.sonicretro.org/Shadow_the_Hedgehog_credits
>>144452554
It might be the third best.
>>144452606
>idol
She was a punk rocker.
>>144452861
That's Honey. She's the in-universe celebrity now.
>>144451737
"Hey RoBUTTnik!!"
>>144452092
...and only then if it fights another giant robot powered by Thrash's screaming.
>>144452650
Yeah, I can see it. Sega's been getting cheaper and cheaper for years. Sonic Boom the show only has like 4 locations and they actually do copy and paste the audience characters. I noticed like six difference perchi's running around in an episode. Can they even afford to pay Stick's va? Because she was barely used in the second season. Through they may drop her once the NO MORE NEW FRIENDS audience complains.
>>144452515
>she was a bundle of wasted potential
I'm not seeing her potential. Her speed was just tacked on as an excuse to ship her with Sonic, she flunked as a freedom fighter, and her singing career only led to her being a damsel in distress or causing distress.
>>144452092GIRI GIRI AIIIIIIIIIIKENAI BORDERLIIIIIIINE
Seriously though, Nintendo or Sega needs to let these devs work on a bigger project, their engine is really fucking good.
>>144451884
As Ian always says, it's just a glorified monthly ad.
>>144453056
Not that guy, but I'll chime in. There is stuff that could be done with her character in pre-boot, and not just because 'she's here, let's use her'.
But that's moot post-boot. How would you re-invent Mina to fit into Sonic's World? If you can't give a good answer, then she should be left to her well-earned rest.
>>144453096
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1_QwGn7VXM
>>144453056
Hence why I said retooled.
She's a vocalist so her powers should play into that and the only other character with any sound based power so far has been Thrash.
>>144453102
You know, it's weird how seeing Sonic and Mario characters side by side doesn't look out of place at all. What is weird is that Sonic is silent. I'd even take a moment of him holding up a sign that said he wasn't allowed to talk in this game with an annoyed expression as an excuse.
>>144452574
One of them worked on Mad World writing the in game TV game show style commentary. Since I can tell you don't bother looking anything up and we're already spoonfeeding you, Mad World was an action game developed by Platinum which took place in a setting where you were on a TV show that involved criminals brutally murdering each other with color commentary.
Anyway, from that he got hired to write the Eggman P.A. announcements in Colors, as well as the script based on the story outline already made by Sonic Team. He brought on one of his coworkers from Happy Tree Friends, and now they write the games.
>>144452770
It already started before Mina, you know?
It doesn't matter, because everyone knew Sally would win.
Mina's speed should have stayed and allowed her to grow from someone who wasn't ready to be a FF to someone who was through hard work and determination.
It was right there and was set aside for "It was Mammoth Mogul all along!" shitty plot twist
>>144452169
On the bright side, Archie Sonic has a better chance at outliving Boom. Assuming Archie doesn't die or sales don't drop too bad.
Or Boom could be the next SpongeBob or Simpsons, but that's unlikely.
We don't need a Archie spin-off game. Just implement the main characters into the regular universe.
An 'Archie' game wouldn't work because the comic book is always changing, the status quo is different every 25 issues. If you started development on a game, it wouldn't reflect the comic when it finally came out.
The problem with implementing the main characters in the game is the game is already bad about every character that's not Sonic. That's not an argument against using these characters though, it's just an argument for making better games.
>>144453139
If he really believed that, he would have quit a long time ago.
If he really believed that, he wouldn't put as much effort as he has into it.
>>144453365
Yes, but Mina was literally created for the sole purpose of adding even more soap opera love triangle romance drama bullshit.
>>144452574
Pontaf wrote Mad World. Sega liked their work and hired them again....for Sonic.
Yeah. I don't know either how Sega thought that writers who wrote for a gory show and a gory game would fit Bluefast the Spindasher.
>>144453465
Shuuuuuut up.
>>144453494
It's surprisingly cute.
>>144453493
He fucking said it himself.
>>144453026
That's just the problem with 3D cartoons.
The main cost is creating new assets, so they have to reuse everything over and over again.
Look at Nick's TMNT cartoon. It's got a huge budget and it reuses stuff all the time. In the first few seasons you'd think only 12 people lived in New York.
>>144453360
I see. yesss. I see
>>144453669
He obviously doesn't believe it.
I think I can tell when somebody isn't being honest with themselves.
It's a skill I've always had.
>>144453493
You can have passion for something and still know that it's a complete waste of time, or even not that good. Art is pointless after all.
>>144453493
He's said it multiple times over the years.
>>144453534
>Mad World has a good story
>This is what SEGA actually believed
I liked Madworld. I wouldn't call the story good.
>>144453465
You'd need to set it before the games or make the comics tie in somehow. You can do it, but you need to coordinate with the comic writers or just have Flynn writing both.
>>144453493
That is all it is, anon. In the eyes of SEGA anyway.
Kind of a shitty ad too, since it's very different from the main product, but that's where it gets its charm, I guess.
>>144453780
>Art is pointless
Well, THAT art is, anyway.
>>144453775
He obviously does since he said it.
That has nothing to do with his passion for working on a comic he loves working on. Other M shows that he wanted to write a Sonic comic far before he actually got staffed.
Sounds like you don't actually have that skill.
>>144453359
Part of me says its because of how they were such huge rivals that them finally being drawn together doesn't look too out of place, It could also be the soft and colorful nature of their designs play off of each other well.
>>144453835
It was more for the sports commentary than the story, because the first game they worked on was Colors with all of Eggman's park announcements.
>>144453936
>Not knowing Oscar Wilde's "All art is quite useless."
>>144453775
> He obviously doesn't believe it.
> I think I can tell when somebody isn't being honest with themselves.
> It's a skill I've always had.
>>144453571
No. There's literally no -good- reason not to use them in the games.
>>144453373
Except the issue wasn't that she wasn't ready it was that she only joined to get closer with Sonic. When the love triangle was finally dropped she had no reason to join.
>>144453465
If they implemented the Archie cast into the games, those characters would be under the same embargo as the game cast in the comic.
>>144453775
>I think I can tell when somebody isn't being honest with themselves.
>It's a skill I've always had.
>>144453465
I miss the old, big sis Bunnie. New Bunnie's backstory is too depressing.
>>144454010Gimme a hug man.
>>144454271
NO MORE HUGS WILL
>>144453952
>Mario is shorter than Sonic
>Sonic is 1m tall
When will manlets learn?
>>144453359
im not saying they should but if they made sonic silent again, it would work fine
I think you guys just liked Mina's design than anything else about her.
>>144453835
>You'd need to set it before the games or make the comics tie in somehow. You can do it, but you need to coordinate with the comic writers or just have Flynn writing both.
That's the entire wrong way to do it. The games cannot and should not try to make the comic canon. And if you put in Freedom Fighters/Eggbosses they should definitely not be exactly the same as their comic counterparts because they aren't in the same continuity.
Sonic shouldn't join the Freedom Fighters in the game, if an organization like that would even exist and not just putting the characters in the game in various roles.
>>144454251
Onee-chan Bunnie was never good enough in the old continuity, and whatever they're trying to do with her now isn't working.
>>144454324
I wouldn't, I'm glad she's gone for good.
>>144454324
Just ask him the next time he stops by. He usually drops a sketch in here when he's got time.
>>144453493
He's just being realistic.
>>144454427
>those lifeless as fuck eyes
horrifying
>>144454324
These Edtropolis images are getting old. Just like his style six years ago.
>>144454436
It could potentially have worked at some point. They just needed to make her promiscuous and say "ara ara~" a lot.
>>144454023
They are not very popular.
SEGA will be creatively controlling and possibly altering them.
It will likely cause a massive change in the comics to accompany changes made by SEGA and likely not for the better.
>>144454146
Considering that later she did singing as a way to help inspire and aid people, I'd say she back then still wanted to help but felt she couldn't and/or would be too painful.
Having her grow from that would have been a nice sight to see, an almost opposite portrayal of someone like Fiona who fell into bad behavior.
name my band
>>144454763Jet Set Radio
>>144454515
You know, I hear you guys talking about all the archie former employees and artists visiting, but from what I can tell half the time the only thing keeping /sthg/ alive is me incessantly arguing with myself.
>>144454763
You know I've been having this wicked idea of having a rhythm game for Sonic where the object is to go as fast as the song goes and the landscape of the stage changes with the rhythm of the song chosen. You can also select the type of stage theme you want to play on ie. Chemical Plant or Green Hill Zone theme.
You can also use Tails and while his gameplay is similar you catch wind to keep and maintain your flight by catching the wind currents instead of trying to keep up with the speed of the song.
I scrap the idea whenever it comes up though because something like this would be nigh impossible I believe unless they made an entirely new engine.
>>144454586
>>144454720
Am I weird for liking the images that are full-on Barbie doll anatomy more than the ones that pretend to hide something that isn't there?
>>144454714
Commission him.
If not I will just to annoy you.
>>144454869
So a weird Audiosurf?
>>144454763
Pinky and the SNES controller.
>>144454869
Didn't Rayman Legends have that?
>>144454834
abt is the most regular one, but it's not like he generates a ton of discussion. Sometimes he just joins in whatever topic were on, sometimes he just draws a few pics.
Senpai usually gets a bit more discussion going, but like the rest of the staff he can't actually say that much beyond what's in the advertising or can be reasonably guessed, even with plausible deniability. And he doesn't show up that often.
>>144454653
It would just end with her dropping her band and another speedster on the group. Doesn't sound like an interesting resolution to me. Unless you wanted to see more inevitable drama from Ash.
>>144454763
Jet the Hawk & the Multicolored Eggbots
>>144454993
Basically but it's side scrolling instead.
>>144455064
I never played Rayman Legends so I wouldn't know.
>>144454652
>They are not very popular.
A) They are more popular than a lot of Sonic characters, Sally is more popular than the Chaotix by any measurable metric.
B) SEGA has no problem implementing new characters with no popularity at all every game
>SEGA will be creatively controlling and possibly altering them.
No a point against their inclusion, a point that SEGA should make better games.
>It will likely cause a massive change in the comics to accompany changes made by SEGA and likely not for the better.
Games are, at the end of the day, more important than the comics. Putting these character into the games and getting a small change is better than not ever putting them in the games, and getting written out of the comic (and franchise) in a decade when SEGA has random moodswing and decides to make everything in the comic games pure or hands the license off of IDW.
>>144455106
>but it's not like he generates a ton of discussion.
It's really just
>abt posts something
>20 anons tell him how awesome he is
>he either fucks off or posts a few more
>>144455419
That's how it should always be with drawfriends.
>>144455170
Not really wanting the drama, I was thinking something along the lines but not exact of Videl from Dragonball. A fighter who was able to fight, just not experienced. Some shine moments to show her potential, but nothing like where she'd be the strongest or fastest. An extra card to play and help the team when they needed to split up or guard on the homefront.
God, this place needs a video game teaser really badly.
Do you think having Penders at a convention is a _very_ good idea, /sthg/?
>>144455710
>Videl from Dragonball
That's a low bar you're setting there.
>>144455748
I miss Rouge's bosom.
>>144456272
It would only be a good idea if he had anything to contribute to the community. We've already seen what the comic will be like.
>>144456272
I think it's hilarious that he's going.
It'll be interesting to see if anyone actually goes up to him for anything other than shit-talk purposes.
>>144456536
Well, she is cute
>>144456272
At the very least, there's a possibility we'll get a picture of him sitting alone at a desk like Virgil.
![Launch-with-bazooka-dragon-ball-females-32514296-512-384[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kVi3Rus.jpg "Launch-with-bazooka-dragon-ball-females-32514296-512-384[1].jpg")
>>144456319
Better than being "Launch'd", which is essentially what happened.
>>144456640
Shame about the everything else.
>Live in the UK
>Buy a VIP ticket to Summer of Sonic 2016
>May not be able to attend due to work
So, I take it a few of you chaps might be interested if the worst comes to the worst? A chance to meet Pollock in exchange for the anniversary coin and maybe a commission from Ferran?
>>144456536
There really hasn't been enough said about how Elise was pure Otaku bait.
Because SEGA was still desperate to make Sonic popular in Japan they ruined Sonic's story in 06 entirely.
>>144449271
I should still have it somewhere. I'll try to dig it up tonight.
>>144456272
> my work
Which comics where made by Penders?
>>144456272
It'd be funny if people just brought up post-160 comics or pictures of other writers' characters to be signed. Or if an anon going could get him to say hi to /sthg/
That said, I doubt anything bad will happen. The few people interested will get their stuff signed and the people who don't like/know/care about him will just ignore him.
>>144457052
>>May not be able to attend due to work
Pfft, just get a sick note.
>>144456272
>>144456603
I just can't believe people are actually showing any kind of support for this decision after he outright said things like that he never cared for Sonic.
The founders just ignoring people's complaints like pic related is also hard to believe, but then again they ended up inviting him so what could have I expected.
>>144457170
The shitty ones.
>>144457170
Pre-160 comics had his stories and art.
>>144457256
Getting a sick note to go to a convention isn't as simple when you're working abroadin the Med or the Caribbean.
>>144457287
>>144457343
Would his autograph actually increase their value as a collector item?
>>144457283
We must never forget that oldfag sonicfags that lead a lot of these gatherings all thought the penders run was great.
We must never forget that sonic was entirely autism for a while and that there are people who are still around from those days.
>>144457610
Probably not.
>>144457052
Ouch... Survive
>>144457610
it'd probably decrease
>>144456937
Rip launch
>>144456536
You know, Madonna would look good with a bump, wearing that suit of hers...
>>144457610
It might make it more interesting historically, but I doubt it'd be any more valuable.
>>144456640
>>144457751
What was deleted here?
http://sonicthehedgehog.tumblr.com/post/145262476833/coming-into-june-like
>Tagged: #sonic25th #counting down to June 23 #are you ready?
So is anyone here expecting an announcement on the 23rd?
>>144458740
A comment about dirty intentions with a princess.
>>144458839
Yes.Whether or not Britain will leave the EU
>>144458839
No, just a simple birthday thing.
>>144458839
I can't wait for them to announce the new wave of merch
>>144458839
do we want them to do another parkour game?
I would but they would have to change alot from LW, if you consider that the template, no wisps no new villains no tubular no generic level themes.
either way I think it would be better than starting a new idea from scratch.
>>144459275
I want a game based entirely around parkour. Not "hold button to automatically do stuff", mold the entire control scheme around it.
>>144459339
I've not been to hype about parkour in general, its always seemed awkward. I'm hoping they can streamline it some how.
how would you imagine it working? you approach a wall and you dash at a wall, like an alternate homing attack?
>>144447398
He looks like Bendis with hair.
>>144459817
That's an apt description of his writing.
>>144459275
No. I have no problem with Sonic running on walls, but there shouldn't be a dedicated "parkour button" or anything like that. It should just happen automatically if you run on a sloped wall at a sufficient speed.
>>144448996
How about a Bollers' comic?
>>144459817
No, Bendis looks like Penders! It's Pender's original look!
>>144451574
>No Streets of Rage Heroes ever
>>144460030
having a had time imagining that working
would it be like Ratchet and clank with the gravity boots? (except faster of course).
He runs at a wall directly and he just runs up it?
They tried something like that with Adventure 1, you would tend to stop when running on a wall.
I'm 80% certain that Penders puts himself into these positions because he wants to be harassed, assaulted to use as ammunition in potential lawsuits.
Even talking about him now might theoretically come up in a court room one day as 'death threats' and other bullshit.
The guy is a worm, he never intended to make a comic with his OC Donuts. He just wants to sue Archie and SEGA for 'lost profits', that's why he makes absurd claims about planning a movie and shit.
>>144454146
>she had no reason to join.
Did she still have the speed powers after Mogul did whatever? I would think a madman that has an army of robots he designed and wants you all either dead or enslaved seemed to be a good enough reason to join the group fighting him, especially if you were one of the few people with powers.
But as someone said this is all moot post-reboot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAkOllBWeWg
>>144460673
>They tried something like that with Adventure 1
>mfw that first part of the Lost World level with the fire and shit
>>144459275
Sonic looks so cute here. I was so mad when stuff for Lost World started coming out and it was stated it was going to be Wii U only.
>>144460774
No, it's totally the case and I think everyone here knows it. All he does is ignore logical questions and tell people that they're wrong because "you don't know what I know" and "writers right" (When SEGA owns Sonic, and Archie owned his ass.)
Let me remind you that he actually commented on a porn comic once, "nice work again (it was palcomix shit) please put characters copyright ken penders" once.
He's completely out of touch with reality and common sense. And a fuck ugly douche.
>>144461886
I was thinking more about emerald coast or speed highway. I'm not sure but it's like the game has to rotate the gravity back downwards.
I know what your talking about with Lava mountain, you think you can just swap side to side but dont jump diagonally you either stop or just jump directly side-ways.
Thats the whole issue i fin annoying about parkour, switching from different walls/angles.
>>144460116
Are there any pre-reboot comics that have Bollers' name but not Penders' on them?
>>144462249
it is on steam
but your not missing much, it's not bad or anything just rough around the edges.
>>144459795
Well like I said, I imagine the entire gameplay and control scheme being based around it. So instead of a dedicated parkour button you use the entire gamepad depending on what you want to do. Some of the abilities are already in previous games: press jump near a wall to wall jump, hold circle to slide. Instead of side-step and drift from the boost games, hold left and right bumper to grab something with the left or right hand to turn tightly or vault over an obstacle, and hold a trigger near a wall to wall run. And of course, instead of boost, press square while holding a trigger while motionless to charge a spin-dash.
>>144462404
I really wish Return to Angel Island didn't have M25YL for backups, because they'd be perfect Bollers issues for him to sign.
>>144463003
ok i get it
![needlemouse_and_madonna_by_girgrunny-d57hzuv[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/0gj9snC.png "needlemouse_and_madonna_by_girgrunny-d57hzuv[1].png")
OTP pic related.
>>144464309
>>144464309
Playing Sonic Battle again for the first time in ages. Playing as Emerl in the early chapters is pain.
