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How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, June 3rd:
1839 – In Humen, China, Lin Tse-hsü destroys 1.2 million kg of opium confiscated from British merchants, providing Britain with a casus belli to open hostilities, resulting in the First Opium War.
1861 – American Civil War: Battle of Philippi (also called the Philippi Races) – Union forces rout Confederate troops in Barbour County, Virginia, now West Virginia, in first land battle of the War.
1940 – World War II: The Luftwaffe bombs Paris.
1940 – World War II: The Battle of Dunkirk ends with a German victory and with Allied forces in full retreat.


>News
EU4 DD02/06
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-2nd-of-june-2016.940420/

CK2 DD 8 - Life goes on
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-development-diary-8-life-goes-on.939724/

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive
https://mega.co.nz/#F!WZZFXDyT!yyb25ZuLdLs0B8vhoKS3LA

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>EU4 - BDSM
http://pastebin.com/vYbnKvK2

>>[CK2 - 2.4.5] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.3.3 - 21/03/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V7
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2] Many Houses Divided - v 0.0.1.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jso7qa1c4ystej7/MHD.rar

Old Thread >>144298451
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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>>144329668
>le speedy poster
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>>144329668
fuck you
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>>144329668
hi, how are you doing?
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New ck2 dlc when
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white genocide when
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Reminder that Daniel is the Official and cutest streamer of /gsg/
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>>144329668
t. Alexandra Grandini
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reminder that HoI4 is better than 3 in all aspects
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>>144329843
This
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>>144329909
It's missing a reminder about the 6 gazillion
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>This is a picture of a Haitian man
>this is the flag of Haiti
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>>144329831
"Make Donald Drumpf Again"
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What's /vg/'s opinion on HoI IV judging from the gameplay videos and stuff. I really liked Darkest Hour but hated HoI3
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Nock
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>>144329909
Is that guy doing pushups?
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>>144330031
It's not a Haitian man, that guy rules over literally every American country down of Mexico
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>>144330031
What's the flag above USA's?
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>>144329668
This is my favorite /gsg/ poster.

>>144330112
>>144330110
what?
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>>[V2] - Legacy of Slovenia v1.01
http://pastebin.com/72Yhqm5i

>>[V2] - unHPM v1.3.1
http://pastebin.com/zK3YrpNx

>>[V2] - 7 Years v0.3
http://pastebin.com/tsPsr70u

>>[V2] - Robmod v2.5
http://pastebin.com/MHswMhZi

>>[V2] - Visegradmod v3.2
http://pastebin.com/C8swKB9t

>> Updated Waggler Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/33A7wX
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>>144330210
the waggle pastebin link is wrong my friend

see for yourself
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>>144330210
Thanks Cobra
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>>144330210
Thanks Cobra.

Tell us, what is the official position of the steamgrouppe on the HoI4 issue?
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>>144330210

thanks rob
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>>[V2] - 7 Years v0.4*
http://pastebin.com/tsPsr70u

>>144330271
Thanks lad.

>> Updated Waggle Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/33A7wXdB
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>>144329605
6th in rank probably means that the heavy lifters of the industrial world: UK, USA, Germany and France are eating the resources. They are also the main produces so.
Do remember that spheres also contribute, not only the GPs. Every country in the UK sphere share the same market as them and consequentially the same "rank" when buying stuff.

Late game when China and the chinese minors come into play it gets worse. Don't worry though,a few places are turning in iron and coal for late game in the next update, so that might do it.
There's no guarantee though. These GPs and their spheres can still dry the resources before the quantity you need reaches you.

>>144329634
Yeah, that was a problem in Southern Italy too. The Italians don't keep numbers and data as well as the British though, so it might be harder to do that.

>>144329479
Still need to finish V2, it's not even out yet and considering they will change a lot between release and the DLCs I will probably not touch it in a long while.
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>>144330380
>v0.4*
Fuck off.
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>>144330381
HOI4 literally declared total shit by the god emperor of /gsg/, HPM

That pretty much ensures that HOI 4 WILL NOT BE ALLOWED HERE
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>>144330031
pic related is actually what he looks like
this is just paracucks being lazy bastards desu, literally every south american country has that picture as their leader
atleast in HOI3 they had an actual picture of them or a question mark instead of some generic shit
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>>144329831
make strategy grand again

>>144330196
el salvador
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>>144330031
>democratic
>no elections
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>>144329909
Britain looks a little dull, how about draw a guy waving
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>>144330332
Not Cobra, but a close confident. I can say that he has stated numerous times that Hearts of Iron IV will be shit, and he plans on making it a day one pirate.
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so is HPM going to change the requirement to build and upgrade factories from iron to steel or just fuck around with RGOs?
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hoi4 leak when
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>>144330167
yes
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has hearts of iron 4 been leaked yet with a torrent? I want to play

>>144330096
why is the tsar infront of a soviet flag
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>>144330931
2 days 21 hours
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Post /gsg/ related events that make you cry
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>>144330919
Some factories already use steel to be built but considering even railroads use steel it kinda makes sense that most factories should too.

Currently I'm messing only with pop needs and RGOs. Once I get that in good shape I will move on to dealing with factories.
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>>144330987
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>>144330973
That happens to the sprites in Hoi4?
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>>144331141
Magyar shits btfo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRkkqv6B7I8

what is the problem with this again?

this looks like a much better alternative to HQ painting and pressing AI button
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>>144330031
they are not lazy. they have already told that they will release dlcs focusing on improving and giving flavor to smaller countries.

they are just being jews, because they have the monopoly and know they can get away with it.
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>>144329638
>HoI4 has no espionnage
They're not even hiding it anymore.
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>>144331152
yes when they train
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>>144331143
the most commonly build factories (liquor, textile, furniture, clothing, etc) require raw iron to build, which doesn't make any sense
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>>144331152
yes pls buy
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>>144331141
>buhuhu why didn't hungary keep lands that were 99% non-hungarian

fuck off horsefucker
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>>144331141
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what's wrong with this
why does it say Vladivostok in the map, but if I click on it it's name is different?
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>>144331246
It's not like they own all the grand strategy reserves in the world though. Any other company is free to come along and release a better grand strategy game, with no jewry.
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Based Daniel erradicating half of his army for a bullshit reason
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>>144331243
drawing a line gives you a 50% bonus that the ai does not have. you can win every single war in the game as long as you do not do blatantly stupid stuff.
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>>144331145
this looks interesting

where can i get this in english
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>>144331141
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>>144331292
well if they only required concrete and machine parts that would be realistic and that's not the goal of his mod retard
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>>144331417
Distant worlds is a better game than pmuch every paracucks game except for MODDED victoria 2, and MODDED hearts of iron 2.
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>>144331479
>raw iron
>realistic
wew
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>>144331515
This
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>>144331417
yes but no one has released one yet
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>>144331440
fair enough
first thing to be modded
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>>144331450
What would the world look like if willy didn't abdicate?
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>>144331141
not even German
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>>144331417
and they will end up like the creators of distant worlds, creating a very expensive game with a small fanbase, getting small to no profit at all and having a popular company like paradox copy their game (stellaris), dumb it down, release it and becoming millionaires.
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>>144331263
who cares?
espionnage has always been shit in hoi
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Where can I get EU4 mods for 1.7 if I can't be arsed to buy the game?
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>>144331141
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>>144331515
pirate the latest version
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>>144331737
What?
I already own Distant worlds.
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i just got here from /v/ how do i install hoi4?
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>>144330069
please no ignore
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>>144331814
wrong person
>>144331649
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>>144331842
ur mum desu
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>>144330069
>what's /vg/'s opinion
>/vg/

You have to go back.
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>>144331842
ask for the torrent
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>buying games instead of torrenting
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>>144331857
The AI is a horrible mess and border gore is rampant every game, don't buy.
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>>144331642
t.guy who has never done coups or stolen technology.
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>>144331639
it doesn't matter how good distant worlds is, game looks like ass. So any random purchaser looks at it, thinks it looks like ass, and moves on.
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>>144331292
liquor ----- stills (iron, steel or copper)
textile ---- textile machines ( Should this be machine parts?)
furniture ------ tools( but shouldn't this be machine parts)
clothing ----- ?????? You got me
Remember in Vicky terms iron doesn't only mean iron. Its a catch all for metal ores.
Sulphur, for example, is a catch all for chemicals as well.
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>>144331942
t. /r/the_donald pro
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>>144332063
Wasn't even aware that this is a trump quote, to be honest.
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>>144331942
fuck off trump chump
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>>144331269
What does training do?
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>>144332034
>caring about graphics in a strategy game
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>>144331942
Who cares /vg/, /gsg/, anyone in this thread
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>Daniel's blobbing as the """""""""""""""Neo-Ottoman Empire"""""""""""""""""""""
>isn't even blobbing into historical borders. Decided to skip saudi arabia and go to Persia, Afghanistan and even further into Asia afterwards

This game triggers my historical autism so fucking much guys. Modders need to fix the Fascist CB so you can't declare war every fucking month.
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>>144332265
>caring about other people's opinion
respectfully disagree.
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>>144332171
FUCK OFF TRUMP CHUMP

GO THE FUCK BACK TO /POL/ YOU FUCKING BIGOTED PIECE OF SHIT GARBAGE LIKE YOU DOESN'T BELONG HERE
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>>144331348
>Slovakia and Transylvania were 1/3 Hungarian
>hehe le pure ethnic slav and gypsy areas am i rite xD
Go back shitting on the street Radu
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>>144332215
>>144332372
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>>144332052
The only thing that makes sense in there is the stills for liquor, which should require steel or some other processed metal (which is what steel represents). Iron, however, in this context, is used for some reason as the building material for the structure of the factory, which is why it's the same amount required as cement. Why Paradox decided to make some factories require raw minerals mined out of the ground for their building structure rather than actual processed metals used for construction I'll never know.
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>>144332294
>implying he's not going for turan
its more historically accurate, turanism was more popular among turks after WW1 than reclaiming the ottoman empire
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hoi4 torrent please
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>>144332002
and you have to spend a lot of resorses to be able to steal a technology with negligible probability
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>>144332294
And what would you do in the meantime betwenn wars? Work in your economy and population?
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>>144332257
I don't care about graphics, but we weren't talking about what I care about. We were talking about how there is no competition to Paradox in gs games.
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Will there be a modern day expansion to HOI4 so I can #FeelTheBern in my grand strategy?
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please crack ;_;
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>>144332265
addressing /vg/ doesn't make any sense because it isn't a hivemind like /v/eddit, it's made up by myriad of generals that usually do not share the same userbase.
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>>144332514
http://www.torrentz.eu/d178331501722d3f9bb7b5bfc998a5be4a0aaa62
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>>144331637
They brought that on themselves desu
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>>144332034
>tfw prefer games with more minimalistic graphics but distant worlds feels like a dead game every time I try it

How do I get into it, it just feels like every 4x with no diplomatic depth and can't even roleplay because nothing to roleplay with like in hoi games or CK2
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>>144332251
experience without combat I believe at the cost of equipment attrition
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>>144332676
Play some Stellaris, then you'll appreaciate DW
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>alex grandi joins paradox
>liquor dlc for hoi4 5 days after release
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>>144332406
cry some more, Arpad.
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>>144332625
does it work?
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HOI$ WHEN FUCKIN GIBS ME DATS MUDDAFUKAS
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>>144332528
Fuck off liquormemer. It's possible to build up your economy and research in HoI, even better than it is in other games. He could be focusing on getting factory production efficiency up and revamping his army navy and air force. He could also use political power to incite facist coups in other countries.
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>>144332535
sure remember to get the israel dlc for 19.99usd+tax goy

>>144332625
thanks
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>>144332624
Do we really need to discuss this ? Some people should just post their opinions because I didn't follow it lately but since the release is up ahead I might as well if something big changed
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>>144332795
I tried, it feels even more dead. I forced myself to play it for over 40 hours and with all the mods I could but it was just so disappointing
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>>144332856
sure
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>download HOI4
>click on brazil
>draw an arrow to every neighboring country
>gross south americums
>draw an arrow to mexico city, Washington DC, and Ottawa
>GROSS AMERCANIUMS
>make my own faction and rule the world
thank you yohan
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>>144333067
np glad you preordered ;)
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>>144333067
But first you need to change your conscription laws for free manpower.
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Can democracies war other democracies in HoI4?
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>>144332889
>Fuck off liquormemer
Why did you feel the need to add this into your comment?
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>>144333351
yes
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>>144333067
remeber to buy the new ck2 jewish portraits and the BRAND new dlc cockclave where it makes it impossible to manage your realm

>>144333351
i think so
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>>144333351
You need to use mana to justify war.
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>>144315454
What is it anon. Tell us. I know it's some demented trap gore thing. But just tell us its name.
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>>144333351
anything is possible when you have a believable world

you can literally just click a button to change your government type once a year
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>>144333351
No you stupid goy. Only Communists and Fascist can blob
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>>144333067
>download HOI4

how??
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Victoria 2 HPM crashes when I select a unit, any fixes?
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what is it
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>>144333351
actually no
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>>144333582
build liquor factories
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>>144333454
>>144332625
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>>144333454
I have a twitch stream so they let me beta test it.

But I won't leak it because I have utter respect for Johan and Paradox, their liberal ideologies will create a new generation of educational games and teach kids the lessons of the holocaust and why we must never repeat history.
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>>144331413
save and reload?
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>>144333587
memes
>>144333652
Based DDRJake
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>>144333582
Use the proper Big Flag Frames mod, last version in AFP pastebin
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>>144333587
t. abbott

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d_bQ1ebB3o
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don't forget to pre-order hoi4 and support the greatest game company on earth!

also we're planning to put some new features in so you won't be able to use DLC without an internet connection to prevent piracy

if you want to play DLC you need to BUY the game :)
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http://poal.me/2yjsuy
http://poal.me/2yjsuy
http://poal.me/2yjsuy
http://poal.me/2yjsuy
vote
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>>144332625
Is that shit even legit?
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>>144333797
Thanks

>>144333616
Kill yourself.
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>>144333638
Seedpeer is definietly fake, It doesn't even have a magnet.
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>>144333880
its just an exe, virus confirmed
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>>144333652
I promise to donate reparations to children of the holocaust now plzz give leak.
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hello I'm russian
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>>144333862
No they won't kek.
I'll keep pirating their games and boycotting Paradox till the day I die.
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>>144334137
sup Gabriel
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>>144334137
Na gsgutu, plizutu
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hello I'm japanese
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>>144334227
Good thing we have all the good goyim "ironically" pre ordering our game so we can survive.
t. viral marketing unit manager
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>>144333652
What's your username?
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hello I'm a faggot
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>>144334227
>boycotting their games
>still playing them
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hello I'm Alex Grandi
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hello im ugandan
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>>144333652
pls leak

i promise to pay sheke;s to glorious israel

t.johan
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>>144334364
Playing them and encouraging them to further produce games are two different things. If I pirate the game because it's shit and not worth the money but I enjoy the memes it generates that's still a form of boycott.
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>>144334137
Give back konigsberg.
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hello i am swiss
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>>144334538
No
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Hello I am Johan
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>>144333865
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http://poal.me/i5vgdk
http://poal.me/i5vgdk
http://poal.me/i5vgdk
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>tfw when /gsg/ is more multicultural than Sweden
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Hypothetically, how would a Holocaust mod work?

I'm thinking it could be in the focus tree and the effects increase national unity. And you can assign division(s) to a concentration camp and you get army experience and the divisions themselves get experience just like exercising them but they don't suffer attrition since concentration camp prisoners can't really fight back/cause casualties.
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>>144334237
ti s sosacha pitrila?
>>144334234
My name is actually Sergey.
>>144334363
Nice to meet you, Faggot.
>>144334538
I dont mind.
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>>144334687
pls let us download mods without buying the game
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>>144334842
No no, I'm A faggot, please get it right
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>>144334847
but why would you need to download mods if you don't own the game? it's not like you'd be able to do anything with them
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>>144334842
Sasi, pidornushka i yjobivai na sosach/gsg
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>>144334987
t. piracy
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>>144335050
petukhan porvalsya
padi podmoisya manya
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>Paradox released THA SHOAH DLC
>if you don't use a decision in your tech tree to accept the jewish peoples and decide to shoah them you'll get 75% malus in industry and military
>if you accept the jewish people you will eventually turn into The Zionist Empire
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Russkies pls get out
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>>144334954
I see nothing wrong with being a faggot. Sure you're a nice person.
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>>144335225
pindoshka, plz
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>>144335225
I actually like being here. Why should I leave?
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V4.1

-"Following Elections" fixed
-Description of the scenario Added
-Primary culture of Constantinople is now Greek
-Casus Bellis having long times to fabricate fixed

Remember to report any bugs

http://www.mediafire.com/download/z32z0ddsj9iap7u/7+Years+V4.1.zip
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you guys bash paradox, wait until they stop caring about mods, they already started banning some mods, you just wait...
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>>144335487
Because you're a subhuman and /gsg/ is for pure blooded germanic aryans only.
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>>144335505
fuck off back to your steamgroup
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>>144335375
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>>144335505
thanks
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>>144335505
Why did R&I kick you out of the OP lad?

I like your mod.
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>Father started independence faction
>Obviously Caliph didn't allow it
>Pushed it anyway
>Won with 100% while holding off other aggressive Muslim neighbours
>Still a vassal
Crusades when? The blob seems incapable of breaking up otherwise.
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>>144335612
Why is that statue pissing on Belgian flag?
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>>144335521
THIS

We need to be nicer to Paradox or they might start banning our mods...
>>144335612
uhh where are the mosques in europe lol fuck off nazi?!?!?!
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>>144335754
because belgium is a shit pretend country that shouldn't exist
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>>144335695
Ahah) Spasibo, chto sidish v moih tredah)
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>>144335612
Post your photo for us to be sure that you're really "pure blooded germanic aryan".
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>tfw started a game where I'm going to make most of Europe have different germanic cultures

>tfw either have to use Norse for both Russia and Scotland or have England invade Scotland and replace them with anglo-saxons (which I don't want)
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>>144335612
>Because you're a subhuman and /gsg/ is for pure blooded germanic aryans only
Cringy stormfront cancer.
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>>144335695
ahaha what funny political commentary))))))))
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>>144335863
pic related: me

I'm whiter than 95% of this site.
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>>144335863
pls r8
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playing as Russia in Vicky 2 now

Is it even worth annexing the Central Asian minors? I feel like they don't have anything of value there, not even pops
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>>144335612
Hello! I am Indian and i worship swastika hitler everyday, can I be here? tank you!
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>it's a /gsg/ is too busy memeing over /pol/ tier discussion and please buy maymays rather than discussing and fixing vic 2's problems episode
treddit
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>>144335863
Will a hand suffice?

>>144335863
>>144335963
I was just memeing, no reason to get this triggered, /v/eddit.
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>>144336080
You're RUSSIA lad

ANNEX FUCKING EVERYTHING

THE SKY IS THE LIMIT

NOBODY CAN CONTAIN YOU

BLOB IT ALL!
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>>144336137
>triggered
>/v/eddit
>only pretending to be retarded meme
Spotted the reddit tourist trying too hard to fit in.
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>trading away factories for resources
Can someone explain to me what exactly this means?
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>>144335851
vsegda proigrivaj s nih
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>tfw actually pure blooded Germanic and this shit makes me cringe my beautiful teal eyes out
kill youreself my man
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>>144336224
>every tongue in cheek joke is branded "hurr
you're le just pretending to be retarded durr"

I wish people like you would stop posting.
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>>144335612
can someone pic the original picture without the slav subhuman?
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Did HoI 4 leak yet?
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>>144335990
1
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Close friend of Rob here, AMA
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>>144336770
Do you guys sext eachother?
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>>144336449
Well, that's a given, germans from an early age are brought up to be very scornful of their own ethnicity.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3hit9HSNNE

Wow, this was actually very useful because I had 0 idea how air combat worked.
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>>144336903
Every single antifa member I ever met has been a complete and utter fucking retard with one exception.
Open the gates and gas em again.
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I wish paradox released games more often, this thread gets hilarious every pre release.

Remember to preorder the day 1 content DLC
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alri, let's see if /gsg/ truly is white.
What is the best achievement you've had in tour life, anon?
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>>144337151
I managed to get out a welfare enviorment and on my 3rd year of getting a mathematics degree.
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>>144335863
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>>144335612
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>squatting and drinking vodka
>a catholic priest promotes his dick into my mouth
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09MD99kHqYU starts playing
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>>144337223
>jewish sciences
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>>144337151
I invented twerking
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don't you think that Victoria 2's naval technologies should be only 1 or maybe 2 branches in the "Military" category?
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>>144337151
I've managed to masturbate 10 times in one day to the same pic that wasn't even lewd in the slightest.
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Who gets the money from the sold factory goods in vic 2?

do i get it directly or do capitalists get it and then i have to tax them?
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are autists still trying to get HOI4 banned
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>>144337383
Please come with me, mein Herr.
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>>144337151
I'm an engineer and I've planned a bridge that connects Djibouti to the Aden
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>>144332625
I posted this last bread, preddy sure it was fake
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>>144337410
the latter
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>>144335863
>pure blooded germanic aryans
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>>144337151
i graduated high school

i work two jobs and go to school full time

get on my level degenerates
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>>144337151
renounced my whiteness to join the slavic masterrace
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>>144337502
thanks
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>>144337151
I united germany in Vicky 2.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdNn5TZu6R8

Who else likes to listen to hella epic movie scenes while grandstratting?
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I don't give a fuck about HOI4 being shit because I never really understood HOI3 and I never could play that game. I tried very hard but it was ridiculously slow and boring.

I guess I'm too casual.
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Attention everyone, Hearts of Iron 4 has its own general and doesn't belong here. Thank You
>>144337703
>>144337703
>>144337703
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>>144337898
Wrong thread
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>>144337151
I own a liquor factory in Israel
AMA
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Should I save the cretan people from communist oppression?
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>>144337853
Wrong thread
>>144337703
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>>144338032
Kill yourself
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>>144337440
Noice
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ATTENTION HOI4 HAS ITS OWN GENERAL AND DOESNT BELONG HERE
>>144337703
>>144337703
>>144337703
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>>144335863
I am a turk
but I look whiter than spanish/italian people
look like a greek
does that make me white?
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>>144338324
Kill yourself
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>>144338342
>I look like a greek

That's because you are one.

>does that make me white?

Yes.
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>>14433832
>t.
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>>144338324
pretty sure Hoi games are actually belong to wargaming general
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>>144338359
HOI4 isn't GS and therefore doesn't belong here
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>>144338342
>turk
>people
jk, I believe you anon
t. white Californian
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>>144338342
Turks are white.
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