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Visual Novel General #1104

READ THE FOLLOWING, THIS IS IMPORTANT

>Having trouble with your VN? Try the following before you ask for tech support:

1. Be in Japanese locale
2. Read the Readme
3. Read the wiki below
4. Google it

>FAQs, Recommendations, and Other Useful Things:
http://visual-novels-general.wikia.com/wiki/

>Need a novel with a specific element?
http://vndb.org/g

>Visual Novel Translation Status
https://warosu.org/jp/?task=search2&search_tripcode=%21%21UcDDlzwANFs&search_op=op

>Download Links:
http://pastebin.com/U7HUj0fk/

Previous threads:
>>144150087
http://pastebin.com/zeiYgLrs/

This general is for the discussion of Japanese visual novels.

Kindly use spoiler tags appropriately when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.
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I LIKE LOLIS.
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>>144321028
This smug is killing me.
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>>144321181
Fuck off.

>>144321028
Fixed.
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Can any faithful memester direct me to some sort of guide for FM so I can get all the endings? Would be greatly appreciated.
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>>144321626
Just make a separate save at every decision. There aren't many of them.
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>>144321769
Try this...
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>>144321736
But is there some wombo-combo bullshit like one of the game's earliest choices effecting which ending you get? Also does that age choice effect anything?
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>>144321028
So would you say

she's about to go down on him?
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>>144322262
Shoop in that 30-inch sub.
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>>144322148
The only thing I can't think of is, not talking to the painting and not looking in the mirror at the early chapters. I think that would trigger a bad ending at the end of door 4, but I can't confirm it since I did both things.
Aside from that, I didn't find any "choice you made 10 hours ago makes you get a bad ending now" type of situation. If I got a bad end I just reloaded my save or auto-save and that was it.

What's the age choice? When you try to guess Giselle's age? I don't think that drastically changes anything, that'd be pretty stupid.
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>>144322710
The only thing I can* think of
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>>144322710
Then why would the choice even be there? I guess not doing the shadows in order would also warrant a bad end, but I'm not sure if its one of the 8 I need. 2nd one probably just instagibs you when you meet.
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>>144323659
Some games have meaningless choices you know?
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>>144321626
There is a bad ending I accidentally stumbled upon. You get it if you hesitate at "Deny it" choice.
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>>144324758
Guess there's a similar one at the "Give up" choice or whatever in CH7, if you manage to click it. Dunno if you can tho.
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>>144321626
Here you go my friend
http://89.xmbs.jp/reddestworld-54211-d_res.php?n=408311&view=1&page=d&guid=on
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>MC-kun: "I'll let you choose where I come"
>game lets you choose anyway
>choose inside like any christian man
>Heroine-chan: "Give it to meee insiiiiiide *various vulgar noises"

Well shit, MC's a telepath
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>>144325594
Thank you based god. I'm guessing the earlier pages had that "secret dialogue" and stuff like that in. Should prove useful.
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Lolis
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>>144324942
>Guess there's a similar one at the "Give up" choice or whatever in CH7, if you manage to click it. Dunno if you can tho.

You can. It gives you a bad end as well.
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>>144322710
After looking at the guide, I can safely say that those choices only change scenes minorly and don't matter to getting the Bad Ends that you need for the Prologue. Also why didn't an English person make a guide by now? Game is popular enough, and you find nothing by simply googling, other than Steam shit and people talking about the demo that was released a while ago.
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>>144327210
>Game is popular enough
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>>144327210
>Game is popular enough

I'm not sure about that. Also it's only been out in English for what, two weeks?
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>>144325742
No, he isn't a telepath, he's actually mind controlling her into doing what he wants and letting her think it was his own idea. Why do you think he's so popular in the first place?
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Is there anywhere to download Sakura Dungeon? I heard the 18+ version had already been released, but I can't find a download/torrent anywhere.

Has it just not been uploaded yet, or is there somewhere I'm not looking?
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>>144327860
Wrong general.
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>>144327480
People mention it from time to time in this general, and it is on Steam, so I thought at least some noteworthy weebs would be on it. At least enough to make a proper, easier to find guide. Or are retarded meme games like the Sakura garbage what's hot right now on Steam?
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I'm getting some endings I didn't get on FM and noticed that after you beat the game you are no longer called "You" during the first chapters.

>>144328167
>Or are retarded meme games like the Sakura garbage what's hot right now on Steam?

Pretty much.
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>>144327860
Case in fucking point. How's the good shit supposed to come to light when there's games like these, pandering only to random horny teenagers? Though I digress, since the truly best things find their way to the top, no matter what's in their way. People like something about them a lot, so they get extremely popular. Guess FM lacked something, so its still niche. Even if the soundtrack is godly.
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>>144327860
go ask /evn/
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>>144322107
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozfzr3kkp_4
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Pretty sure I got an "Ending 0" that's not showing up on the list for some reason.

>>144329383
Can you honestly say you're surprised?

>unknown doujin circle
>non-anime art
>all ages title from a publisher that's known for their porn games
>no voices
>unusual setting

At least it's got 100% positive reviews on Steam which is a rarity.
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>>144331074
Those are dead ends
I haven't played FM but maybe that's why they don't show up
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>>144329383
>pandering only to random horny teenagers?
They don't even have porn which makes it a mystery to me as to to why they're popular in the first place at all.

It's just a bunch of almost-nude girls doing a lot of non-erotic things. Literally just blue balls in a game format.
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>>144331321
Ah, yes it was literally called Dead End now that you mention it.
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>>144331074
That's one of the 5 or 6 Dead Ends which just means you die and that's it. They're all numbered 0 and don't show up anywhere, though you can read through them for maximum value.

The art was weird at first, but it kinda grows on you. Dunno if H-scenes would have helped, but I think MG tried their best for both marketing and translating the thing. I feel like this story would've worked better on paper, rather than with all the visuals and sounds, which are there to simulate interaction and better the general experience. Which they did, but I guess the art is the main turn-off, in the end. Now imagine F/SN as a book. Yeesh.
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>>144331486
I see your point, but its eye-candy, and its based on the whole Senran Kagura shite, where weebs and horny teens are attracted to the things they like the most: tits and fighting.
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>>144321028
Is this translated?
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>>144332578
Yeah. SP is going to make another kickstarter for it according to reddit postings.
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>>144332641
Well, its GOING to be tl'd, but as of yet it isn't tl'd.
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>>144327860
You download the patch for 18+.
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Eika's route isn't really doing it for me. I'm starting to feel like I'm not the biggest fan of imoutos, as blasphemous as that may sound. Hoping more from Tane and the maid.
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>>144333278
It's not blasphemous. Imoutos are typically the worst kind of characters in every VN.
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>>144332641
Can't wait for the no porn announcement followed by the KS crashing and burning.
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>>144333591
>implying SP doesn't find a way
EOPs are desperate for anything SP can get.
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>>144333591
I guess you can say the whole thing will be a trainwreck
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Cool lyrics.
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>>144333278
Best part of that route were the H-scenes, you dolt. Her route was the best just for that. And its general theme. Of cocklust
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>>144334651
What can I say, I'm just not getting excited when the girl in question doesn't do anything for me
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>>144333278
Eika's is basically "Oh no, I can't stop masturbating!" and a Clannad reference at the end.
It's practically a nukige route.
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>>144333278
Incest is wrong. Say no to imoutos!

Especially inbred imoutos.
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>>144333278
Apart from the stockings I just don't like her design much.
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>>144336496
What is this thing
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>>144336614
anime made real
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What visual novel has the dankest memes?
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>>144336943
FSN. It's one long joke and meme.
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Why is the best girl in Fata Morgana a guy ?
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>>144337597
Because Jacopo has fragile masculinity so it's fun to call him a girl.
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>>144338141
She's cute.
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>>144337597
Cause he's literally a fucking saint. In heart, and in body. Though I still wonder how he pees.
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>>144338227
Did we find out why her fucking skin started peeling off only on her face?
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>>144338653
malnutrition? being treated like shit?
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>>144338350
why is she melting
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>>144339081
Because she got rejected.
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>>144338653
>>144339067
The cover of the OST for the fandisc implies fire.
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You DO like good games, don't you /vn/?
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>>144341480
>preordering
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>>144341480
I'm a poorfag without a console, but Atelier might be the single reason I might buy one one day
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>>144341480
Haven't the last couple atelier games been pretty shit?
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>>144341624
moogy says this one is good so that doesn't matter.
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>>144341480
Why is he talking like he is out of TVtropes?
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So, about Fata Morgana. I'm still reading, but from what I gathered about the location of the manor, it's situated in:
1st door - Italy
2nd door - Spain/Portugal, though the only conflict of that year I know of is the War of the Spanish Succession, but the dates don't quite line up, so I may be wrong here.
3rd door - America, duh
4th - France
Am I right?
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>>144333278
First tilt. How bad did I do.

Floating feet is common in this shit isn't it?
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>>144342052
Giselle is The Maid
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>>144342052
Morgana is The Maid
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>>144342052
Nellie is the Maid
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>>144342461
Well, thank God I'm reading about the past of Michelle

I hope 4chan doesn't mess with my spoilers. It has become quite difficult to predict what would happend to multiple levels of spoilers in recent years.
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>>144342052
Yuuri is The Maid
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>>144342461
>>144342524
>>144342651
>>144342704
I want to marry Didier.
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>>144342052
Architecture in 1st door seemed Italian, but their names and the remarks about the weather suggest England. 2nd one, I believe Spain was where it started, but dunno if the mansion spawned in Spain. Javi may come from Javier, so its possible. Rest is right.
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>>144342969
>but their names and the remarks about the weather suggest England
You may be right. They did mention going to The Globe Theatre.
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>>144342689
Check your fucking privilege, HIS name is M I C H E L and he's proud and satisfied with his body, nothing a cis white male would unerstand.
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>>144343195
she was cuter when she was a girl though
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>>144343195
That's where my spoilers fucked up.
First level: Michel and then, at the end, additional le, so you can choose whoever you want.

Didier is best girl, though.
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>>144342839
Didier is pretty handsome no homo
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>>144342839
Better than wanting to marry his cuck brother, who was the only half-decent person surrounding Michelin Man.
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>>144343471
He is literally younger Geralt with gayer eyes. But apparently a lot of things can happen in a few years...
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>>144343436
Like that guy said, best girl was a genderfluid
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>tfw you have to leave the internet for a month
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>>144344278
FUCK
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>>144343195
Actually, they would
That's what being cis means
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>>144342052
I am the maid.
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>>144345093
Your tits are huge
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>>144345093
I am the law.
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In the end did Michel finally get the penis it wanted?
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>>144346202
yes
though he's like French or something now so it's probably a small penis
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>>144334389
>that butchered portuguese
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>>144338227
Jacopo and Morgana were the only characters that I really cared.
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>>144342969
>>144342052
2nd door featured Spain and Holland
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>>144346512
I thought indians would have bigger penises since that's an indicator of being uncivilized
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>>144346512
He's also probably busy getting cucked by random niggers in the streets. Imagine having to go through all that, only for the niggers to take Giselle and show her something he never could have...
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>>144346903
t. chink
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>>144346887
The Netherlands would make sense, yes. Is Javi a common name around there?
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>>144347335
I'm actually in a yellow country
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>>144346512
>tfw circumcised micropenis
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>>144347739
How small?
I'm 2inches erect.
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>>144348376
Are you GG Allin?
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>>144348376
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>>144348376
Is this the so called "feminine penis"?
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>>144348530
No, I'm Filipino.

>>144348568
pls dont laugh

>>144348689
My balls retreat to my scrotum since the skin is pulled tight too.
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>>144349080
You might as well embrace your faggotry at this point, since your penis will get no other practical use. Like how do you masturbate, do you pull on it with fucking tweezers or something while there's a vibrating turnip in your asshole?
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What is the optimal beverage to drink while reading visual novels?
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>>144350134
Bleach
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>>144350134
>tfw can't drink legally in the US
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>>144350134
Dr. Pepper
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>>144350134
Cold water or whole milk if you work out.
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>>144350134
Water. Only drink water.
Always water, nothing but water!
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>>144350171
Second that. Bleach and cyanide.
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>>144350171
>>144351303
haha guys but that will kill you haha
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>>144350383
>>144350452
>waterfags
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>>144350134
Tea.
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After browsing through some h scenes it's become pretty clear that SP will at the very least cut out the loli scenes.
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>>144351724
Shit is 100+ over here. Cold water is a blessing.
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>>144352684
I thought you meant Celsius but I remembered amerifats use Fahrenheit.
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>tfw
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>>144353397
Too bad she was a terribly shit girl
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>>144352674
Isn't it all loli?
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>>144353884
no
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>>144354248
158 cm to 124 cm. Others need not apply.
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>>144350134
Everclear or Spirytus Polish Vodka 192 Proof with some nachos and after this a can Heineken.
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Lets make /vn/ a JOPtopia!
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>>144355172
Tell us about what's currently hot in JOPland
Every time I see the monthly releases it all looks like moege shovelware
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>>144355313
Well JOPs don't have to rely on new releases as much as EOPs have to rely on new english translated releases so there's a bunch of old shit thats worth reading. Meanwhile, there are only like 10 things worth reading that are english translated.
If you look at all TLs and especially fan TLs, they're pretty much all moege too.
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>>144354248
148 > 130 > 143 > 158 > 160 > 114 > 124 > 164

OBJECTIVE TRUTH
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>>144354248
>124
Daughter
>130
Little sister
>148
Younger childhood friend
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>>144356114
What are the english things worth reading?
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>>144356541
Water Closet
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>>144355172
What is that game?
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Porn aside, does maitetsu have a good story?
Like Monobeno does?
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>>144356719
No unless you're a trainfag
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Will Monobeno be translated too?
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>>144356209
Anything below the 158 on that pic is landing you straight into jail where Jesus and his bro Xavier are gonna show you some REAL H-scenes! Don't be a pedo, in general. No one likes that shit.
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>>144354248
What does it mean if I like 158, 148 and 143 the best?
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>>144356974
Fuck off, Canada.
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>>144356872
Yeah, as soon as you learn moon.
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>>144357059
It means you have an opinion and no one really gives a shit about it.
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>>144357072
No, fuck YOU, Pedo-man!
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>>144357281
But I didn't say fuck "you" Canada.
C'mon, step it up.
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>>144356974
Xavier is the spanish version
Mexico uses Javier
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>>144357059
You're mildly degenerate, 130 and lower makes you the scum of the earth.
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>>144354248
Can you sex them all?
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>>144357546
Can't you read?
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>>144357401
K, lets start over. Ahem. Hey buddy, I think you've got the wrong door. The kindergarden's too blocks down!
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>>144357942
>too
Embarrassing.
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>>144357942
Is it full of 2D girls? Otherwise, not interested.
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>>144358091
Well I guess I'm not the best at reciting "manly" "wrestling" flicks. Go figure, huh? Anyways, don't sex the little girls.
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>tfw I could be learning japanese but instead I shitposted all day here
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>>144358146
Hey man, I could get some cardboard cutouts and shit, if you're into that sorta thing. Only issue is that a 3D can't go into a 2V very well.
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>>144358364
Don't impose your canadiense shit to 2D girls.
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>>144354248
Which of these girls can I get pregnant?
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What y'all kneegrows reading this fine Friday evening?
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>>144358792
Pregnancy is a shit tier fetish.
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>>144358792
All of them, in due time, when they're a bit riper and not in fucking diapers.
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>>144358901
starting this >>144355172
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>>144359213
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>>144358903
Ah, so doing it per its original purpose is a shitty fetish, huh? I'm sure you and your eating human feces and urine are much better.
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>>144359367
Calm down, degenerate
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>>144359340
Call me when you're at least 150 cm high, sweetie. Then we can figure something out. I swear, some of you probably go into hospital wards and find the newborns attractive in some way. Disgusting.
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>not wanting to sex lolis and flat chested girls in the missionary position for the purpose of procreation
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>>144359613
>>calling me a degenerate inside a pedophile infested thread
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>>144359746
>for the purpose of procreation
Yes
>in the missionary position
No, I'd rather have tentacle rape. Even better if it's consentacles.
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>>144354248
How old are these girls?
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>>144359742
B-but I'm a eternal loli, I can't grow, meanie.
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>>144360196
If there is hair on the muff shes old nuff.
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>>144360303
>pubic hair
Disgusting
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>>144359926
Dunno if that's better or worse. So you wanna watch, doing nothing but fapping in a corner, while some random little girl has consensual sex and gets impregnated by a fucking squid that watched too much animes?
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>>144360298
Don't lie, whore. Grown Snail was pretty noice. Maybe even Monkey-tier.
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>>144360571
Monkey is shit though.
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Chances of Maitetsu uncensored are?
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>>144360747
Can't they just patch it
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>>144360640
Fight me faggot
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>>144338227

Oh, it's Hanako. Didn't realize I tripped into /ksg/
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>>144360435
Pretty much, though I self insert as the loli. The latest naedoko game made me diamonds.
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>>144360571
I prefer loli snakes.
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>>144360640
I will fucking kill you
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>>144321028
>the discussion of Japanese visual novels.
fuckign hell, it's been a few threads and no ones changing it
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>>144361487
And the shitposting has been at minimum, your point is?
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>>144361487
They tried but the other thread got deleted by a mad JOP janitor.
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>>144361461
Monkey vs Gorilla?
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>>144361614
You wot?

have you seen the last 3 threads?

Each one had a JOP/EOP war spergout
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>>144361709
Started by the same guy complaining about JOPs shitting the thread
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>>144361614
it's only peaceful if they change it to the proper one, it's never been peaceful and it's full of shit because of that

JOPs stop fucking around with our general geez
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>>144361882
No it always gets started by retards posting untranslated shit.
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>>144361709

This reminds me of those shows documenting life in prison, where there's like 10 people in a cell with no access to the outside world. So all the sudden, something as simple as putting your shoes in the wrong place turns into a riot and people end up in the hospital. Because when you're world is that small, the list of things that matter becomes very, very small, elevating petty things up to World War levels.
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I like JOPs.
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>>144361960
this desu, they should get banned for this shit

>>144361882
it's only because of the JOP, if they revert this back, wars would never happen
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>>144362019
thats actually a great analogy
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Can't we all just get along?
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I don't mind JOPs.
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>>144361960
>>144361952
Literally the same pattern again.
You just made the thread shit itself.
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>>144362135
no, JOPs MUST NOT invade our /vn/
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>>144362176
no I was just correcting his flawed point of view.
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I, as an EOP, love JOPs because they show me what I am missing out on. They are the true heroes that inspire EOPs to improve their standings in the world.
All hail JOPs!
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I'm new.
What's this EOP/JOP shit mean?
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>disrespecting your Japanese Only Patrician overlords
I seriously hope you guys don't do this.
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>>144362416
fuck off JOP
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>>144362360
End of Play
Just on Phone
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>>144360747
-3/10
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What if I don't speak either english or japanese?
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Oh great, this shit again.
I guess I'll go back to playing FF8. Call me back when you faggots are done arguing.
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>>144362794
How will I call you?
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this bullshit happens >>144344521 we let the JOPs in, they already have a general and then invade ours

>>144362360
JOPs people who are autistic weaboos tho spam their untranslated shitge on /vn/ and invade this general when they have their own, most of them a massive fat cocklord weeaboo that learns Japanese and enforce it on other generals outside their containment board to say "animu wa doggo dezu ga?"


EOPs are the regulars and newcomers in this general that reads English translated VNs and is a fan of it (not weeaboo enough to learn a dead language), and only stays on topic without spoiling anything
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>>144362794
Wait anon, dont leave. Its been less than 38 hours since our last spergout. You going to miss your fix.
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>>144362901
I'm fingering your mother's anus right now so just give her a call. I'll be there.
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>>144362942
Jesus Christ, fucking end yourself.
t. a fellow EOP.
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Just finished having a poo lads.
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>>144363554
Hang on, mine isn't finished yet. About 530 more posts to go.
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>>144363554
So you shat out Tokyo Babel then?
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Compared to the first three doors, how long is the Fourth Door and the rest of the VN?
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>>144363825
Honestly the first door felt extremely fast compared to everything else.
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Some tripfag on r9k called bandage posting correctly named makina pics from the VN.

You've got to be one of us right?
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>>144364175
Why are you on r9k?
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>>144364175
he's probably one of the lurkers, EOPs here are afraid to post and memepost because of goddamn JOPs calling every translated game shit, calling them shit, because they think their opinion is "superior" to the EOPs just because they've played untranslated games, proclaiming that they know much better VNs that's untranslated,
most of JOPs are moege haters as well
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>>144364484
>>144364484
it's the only place that doesn't mock me for being an EOP
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>>144364484
I like to laugh at autists. It makes the sadistic side of me happy that there are people suffering like that.
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Seriously? Why are you choosing to stay an EOP? That's like choosing to be poor when you can be rich.
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>>144364660
Also /britfeel/. The /brit/ board on /int/ is too fast for me.
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>>144364756
>hahaha all this time wasted on learning Japanese just to play 1 untranslated shitge
>look at me i know Japanese but i've got nothing to use it to
>there's no point in bragging an untranslated to another person because they wouldn't care
>i guess i've wasted my life enough that there's no going back, that's it, i'm going full weeaboo and live in Japan
>hahahahahha... huhuhuhu ;-; people in Japan hate the likes of me
>tfw old, fat and virgin in Japan
>been wanting to pull the trigger ever since
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>>144365114
I can watch anime, read manga and browse nippon websites too though. What else would I use a language for? I don't even use english for more than that.
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>>144365114
Kangoku Senkan 2 isn't a shitge, motherfucker
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>>144363825
bump, I don't have any freetime and I wonder if I can finish it today
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>>144365239
It's a limited language with little real life uses apart from weeb stuff. The only reason you would actually have for learning it is if you were moving to Japan or interacting with a Japanese company and for whateverthefuck reason English isn't used.
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>>144365114
at least 100+ translated shitges actually.
There's also anime, LNs, websites, travel, food, culture etc.
Learning japanese doesnt mean you throw away your life and become a loser. Where'd that concept even come from?
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>>144364756
Learning Japanese over any other language is like eating shit instead of eating fine cuisine.

What if you grow out of anime, manga, etc when you get older? You learned a useless, dying language for nothing.
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>>144365660
>grow out of
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>>144365239
>>144365572
yeah, even Japan is going full English because they're behind compared to everyone, i've heard their building towns and schools that primarily speaks English.
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>all these sour grapes EOPs trying to convince people to not learn Japanese
Disgusting. Just because you can't learn it doesn't mean you need to drag people down with you.
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>>144364756
>>144365902
This is what happens when we give up and let the JOPs be.
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>>144365902
Maybe you should migrate to 2Chan, they their all JOPs there.
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>come back an hour later, the retards are still going at it
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>>144365660
That logic can apply to anything.
"Why did I learn how to play basketball in my younger days when I grew out of it when I become an adult?"
"Why did I learn how to play [instrument] when I grew out of it and forget everything?"
If you enjoyed the time you spent playing basketball or playing the instrument, learning was worth it.
You don't learn shit or do shit to prepare for your life at 80 years old. We live in the present and the near future.
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>>144365902
same deal with the JOPs invading our /vn/ when they have /jp/
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Am I the only one that wants to learn another language because it's fun?
I'm a trades person and I know multiple languages. I worked in Mexico and France as an underwater welder and right now I'm working as an electrician in Japan. It's fun meeting new people and experiencing new sights.
I'm already thinking of learning another language.
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Why am I even posting in this thread when it will die in a day or two and be forgotten?
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>>144366031
good for you, just don't be an autistic JOP
i'm being against this, because of how JOPs ruined other generals in the past like the JRPG general, and the now dying /hgg2d/ general
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>>144365572
You could say the same of any language, except they don't even have weeb stuff. I go to MANY language learning forums all over the net and the #1 complaint is that everyone has no idea what to use the language for and having trouble maintaining motivation to learn a language they don't really want to use (they just like the idea of knowing a language). Thanks to weeb stuff, Japanese is literally one of the best languages to learn.
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>>144365114
Unless you are retarded there's no way learning japanese will consume your life
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>>144365992
We'll see you at the Japanese reading competition then.
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>>144366031
I'm with you anon. I'm also learning because a lot of people in my family speak 3+ languages and I don't want to stay behind.
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