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Caucustan Desert Edition

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A thread for all simulation games: racing sims, flight sims, train sims, submarine sims, tank sims, anything else sims which do not have enough traffic to sustain their own independent generals.

Extra attention grabbing search terms for example welcome sims
/fsg/ /dcsg/ /fsxg/ /bmsg/ /shg/ /rofg/ /etsg/ /il2g/ /lfsg/ /tsg/

/fsg/ Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/flightsimgeneral

/fsg/ TeamSpeak:
ts.artificialanimation.com:7997
Or whatever is on the group's profile

BMS download links
https://mega.nz/#!0BlTkazA!VUwoKAzavtJ3qIUy7lEF8D8MFjbI_Si-r6nwC3wQZYQ
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/54569phfy8au7/BMS4.33_setup
http://www.e-haf.org/PublicFTP/320/BMS_4.33/Falcon_BMS_4.33_U1_Setup.zip

Planefag pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/Zb0U61in

Silent Hunter 3 pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/jNSvhFfY

Dangerous Waters pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/qvxk755r

FPSchazly's Dangerous Waters tutorials:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOSvzqNmdX71x2COOyM-p2qHIpRNOvpGQ

Repository of various aviation related material:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3EQDvufMNdeTUh4SE9WV0txa0E&usp=drive_web


>Example of welcome sims:
Falcon BMS
DCS World
Rise of Flight
IL-2
Combat Helo
Microsoft Flight Simulator
X-Plane
Euro truck sim
Assetto Corsa
rFactor 2
Live for Speed
SAM Simulator
Steel Beasts Pro
Steel Armor: Blaze of War
Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum
Silent Hunter
Train Simulator
Farming Simulator 2015

>Example of non-welcome games:
Arm* 3
Ac* Combat
W*r Thunder
World of ____
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here's a link for discord good for the next 22h
https://discord.gg/0138K5UiCTJemguJL

>not wanting to split up /simg/ unintentionally and other reasons, so here's a reminder
The discord channel is used for discussing modding, scripting, server, and ,at this moment, Mercs.
Keep the general banter and VOIP on TS
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Is this the thread where delusional BMS fanboys come in and say things about their sim that are disproven by the very .webms they're always posting for attention?

I don't want any part of that.
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https://youtu.be/NI6zhli01aY
fuck and I though R27 was bad. I knew AIM-7 was shit but holy fuck.
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BMS ops WHEN
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>>144287617
At least Blue now has to deal with the same shit that happens to us every time we fire on one of their lagging asses.

The AIM-7 is fine. The netcode is broken.
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>>144287483
>not wanting to split up /simg/ unintentionally
Don't worry, you'll manage to do just that by setting up multiple servers rather than just using different channels of one server like a normal person.
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>>144287793
>can be defeated with chaff spam
>AIM-7 is fine
Okay.
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My pack with the new texture DLC, DCS Desert 3.0, and DCS Vietnam set up with the in-game terrain switcher menu mod has FINALLY been uploaded. Read the readme.

Sorry about the .rar I realized it wasn't zip when it was too late.

Not like you need my permission but if someone wanted to reupload this or make a magnent link be my guest

https://www.mediafire.com/?70vbpgru0ca414y

Add to pastebin pls.
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>>144288019
>what is the R-27R

you can stop flying the F-15 any time, Jester.
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>>144288317
>so caught up in your blue flag drama that you willfully ignore the fact that most missile in DCS at this point are fucked
I liked bms ops better.
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>>144288687
bring back daily BMS ops
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>>144288859
how many "BMS OPS WHEN" is that?
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>>144288687
I think that post was pointing out that the issue extends beyond the AIM-7, anon, maybe one of us has our reading comprehension fucked up, though.

Also DCS' missiles are still better than BMS' magic-180-degree-turn-in-an-instant missiles.
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>>144289013
>BMS' magic-180-degree-turn-in-an-instant
I haven't seen this meme.
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>>144288964
at least 3
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>>144289132
There were like two different .webms in the last thread showing that shit happening on tacview.

There's also the sidewinders that totally follow heat trails and don't go lead pursuit, nevermind every tacview webm shows AIM-9s in lead pursuit.
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>>144289013
No, that post was Blueflag e drama. You're right senpai one of us has reading comprehension issues and it's not me.
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>>144287793
>The AIM-7 is fine.
>The netcode is broken.
No, 3/4 of the game is fucking broken. Missiles and net-code alike. The game is shit desu.
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>>144289910
At least we agree on something.

It hurts that this shit will never be fixed due to the legion of sycophants that play DCS.
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>>144288859
>>144288964
BMS OPS WHEN
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/simg/ mass re-migration to bms when?
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>>144290409
over a month ago?
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>>144290409
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>>144290409
>even my fucking group, unrelated to 4chan in any way, is starting to pick up BMS
>reinstalling falcon 4.0 from discs after not playing it in 10 years

wew lad
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>>144290518
We would do ops every night. It was fun.
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>>144289213
>>144290120
BMS OPS WHEN
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>>144290921
BMS OPS FUCKING WHEN?????!!????
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BMS ops tonight
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>>144292520
>Ejected after splashing a friendly
Why ?
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>>144292825
shame
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>da boiz getting rekt and banned from BF
>going back to playing BMS sandbox with AI
Major KEK
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>>144293598
I just think it's hilarious that they're now acting like they don't care.

I guess hundreds of posts in these threads over the last 3 months doesn't mean a fucking thing, and the way they made asses out of themselves while getting shitted on had nothing to do with any measurable amount of assmad.
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>>144293801
But it's really nothing to get mad about. it's a videogame
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So to those of you that fly the Ka-50 regularly: do you fly with the flight director on, or do you just let the autopilot do it for you?

If I'm flying higher than contour flight and I don't expect to get shot at, I turn off FD and let the helo fly itself. Lower down, or with any kind of credible threat nearby, FD is on so I'm not fighting the autopilot.
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>>144295874
Autopilot is great for transit and hover holds. If you're going to be doing lots of manoeuvring just stick it in flight director, holding the trim button constantly gets uncomfortable after a while.
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>>144295874
Flight director as in autopilot?
I just trim it and fly towards the target, when threats come up or I fence in I just keep adjusting trim as necessary, normally into a hover and I maneuver as I need to
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>>144295874
>do you fly with the flight director on
yup
>or do you just let the autopilot do it for you?
never, FD makes it so easy you've no real need for AP most of the time.
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>>144295874
Don't fly around with the FD all the time, it overrides the autopilots and you can't use the other nifty things, the FD is useful as a back up mode, or when doing gun runs and rocket runs.
If you are fighting the autopilots learn how the work.
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>>144288194
Wouldn't we have to make another pack for the eventual /simg/flag server?
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>>144301246
>eventual /simg/flag server?
>he thinks that's even a good idea

I mean, a /simg/ public server is a fair idea. But there are far more interesting ideas than just making a laggy bluefag clone no-one will play on.
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>>144301416
What do you suggest then?
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>>144301503
If you wanted a simg public server, why not just be a server that actually runs accessible missions that still have more depth than airquake?

A while ago I experimented with a capture zones mission where helicopters had to drop off infantry to capture small sectors a few miles apart from each other. Like a mission that MDsim used to run, which was some of the most fun I've had on a drop-in server.

It was back when I was hoping when the F-5 dropped /simg/ could pounce and make a space for ourselves as a 3rd gen server with actual interesting missions.

F-5E, F-86, UH-1H, Gazelle & Hawk =vs= MiG-21, MiG-15, Mi-8, Gazelle & L-39ZA

desu I think a server where these planes got a chance to fly ground attack without feeling pointless could be popular. Normally when an A-10 can clear an entire town in seconds, there's no incentive to fly shitwagons.
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>>144302184
Doesn't sound bad, but mercenary themed /simg/flag would be baller if we could get it to work AND not lag/desync.

>Hawk
Dear god please no. Give the L39 to both sides.
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>>144302415
When the MiG-21 is the only aircraft on the server with IFF, I'm not sure about that. If it has some vivid skins it could work though.
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>>144302692
That sounds great, it's even historically accurate - the kikes painted their Kfirs and Mirages with huge triangles precisely for that purpose.
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>>144302184
A-10A and SU-25 if you want it to be more accessible.
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>>144305008
>A-10A and SU-25
Sure, if you remove the FLIR and all of the guided munitions.
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>>144305008
If you want to remove the ability of everything else to be desirable to fly ground attack in.

Is the problem.


If you include those, the ground targets have to be tanks n shit. With light attackers and helicopters you can have soft ground targets that bombs actually work on.
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>>144305454
Just because something isn't going up in a fiery blaze it doesn't meant that it isn't disabled. My point being that you could script shit so that iron bombs actually have blast damage.
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>>144302184
>gazelle
>has thermals

real 3rd gen.
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>>144305880
>Scripts

and there goes the entire server into the dump.
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>>144305880
What, bombs don't have blast damage?
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>>144308705
Of course they do, it just sucks.

>>144308521
Seems fine to me senpai, restrict it to the L if you want to be full autist but the M is still a 70s helicopter.
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>>144308874
>Seems fine to me senpai, restrict it to the L if you want to be full autist but the M is still a 70s helicopter.

the 70s didnt have thermals like that.
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>>144309260
Well as I say, restrict it to the SA341L only then. The main idea would be to create a setting that plays differently to 4th gen airquake, not accurately recreate a 70s battlefield.
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>>144308521
>Panther with thermals
>M1 carbine with thermals
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>>144310403
Thermals=/=ir
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Seriously, why doesn't BST make a Mi-8 with nigger rigged ATGMs? I'd be fine even with MCLOS trash.
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Are we gonna have a go at doing this merc and planes type shit then?
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>>144292520
Like for real?
What time?
Gaza ops?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtWw-_Nx8P0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtWw-_Nx8P0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtWw-_Nx8P0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtWw-_Nx8P0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtWw-_Nx8P0
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>>144314352
Who the fuck is this?

Has Wags been transferred to Syria on CIA business or something?
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simg dogfight tournament when
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>>144314738
I will win every dogfight. No point.
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>>144314524
>Germans

not even once, i swear.
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>>144314352
>that pinpoint gun accuracy

Was it that good in real life?
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>>144313572

We started an Egypt campaign last night.

Just watched a full documentary about Israel's history, so I am now ready for more Gaza war crimes.
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>>144315093
I haven't played ops in a couple days. I'm looking forward too some kike ops.
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>>144290409
Okay I'll admit after figuring out how to lock on to targets with AMRAAM's BMS is becoming fun

>Splash two MiG-23's with AMRAAM's
>Splash one MiG-19 with a Fox 2
>Neeto
>Suddenly FOX 2 INBOUND X3
>Check RWR
>3 21's and 2 MiG-23
>APEX INBOUND
>Dead

Should I just accept my death when I hear Apex inbound? I don't think I ever survived a apex inbound warning
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>>144314953
come fight me m8 ill rek you so hard
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>>144315730
I'm the master of the toegay and master of the skies. 1v1 me kid I'll fug you up.
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>>144292825
Out of shame probably, I'd do the same thing.
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>>144314982
It has a similar muzzle velocity to the F-15's vulcan, so... I guess so?
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>>144314352
>She she she she she she she

This turk i swear
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>>144317135
Wanted to strangle him all the way through t.b.h
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>>144317289
I want the spook back.
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>>144317289
>>144317423
I'd rather JUST an Armstrong do the commentary.
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>>144317135
>not refering to your aircraft as women

s m h t b q h f a m
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>>144319820
> Constantly mentioning the article you're referring to
That video was painful to watch
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>>144319820

>that image

MUH DICK
U
H
D
I
C
K

FUCKING NEVER.
I JUST WANT TO FLY FOXBAT INTERCEPT OPS WITH MY OG BOYS
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>>144320620
We did..... We got removed by a patriot on sols command.....
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>>144320802

Y'all got removed, I survived. The one time my horrible formation flying skills saved me.

Still probably one of my favorite flights though. Shit had me dying when all three of you yelled.

Thanks stealth patriot
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Is Dale Earnhardt part of /simg/? I laugh everytime his name shows up on the kill feed in DCS.
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>>144322754
Nope, but with a gay-ass name like that I'm sure he'd be right at home.
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>>144322980

Explain????????
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>>144323261
Because we're all raging homos, who suck each other off when we're not meeting up at a furry convention.
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>>144323376

There is literally nothing wrong with being a furry/gay
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>>144314352
>a german making analogies to clockshops
I guess you default to what you know when trying to use descriptive language.
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>>144323636
>implying
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>>144288194
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So, what mods should we put in the mandatory pack for the server, if we ever get it running?

The terrain textures mod for the appropriate event, skins for the planes that are common to both factions, Why's imposters fix, the connectivity fix or whatever its name is, the mod that gives Browning M2s cartridges that are actually worth a shit instead of tracers/ball, what else? Are there any mods that increase the bombs' blast radius?
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>>144326212
>Are there any mods that increase the bombs' blast radius?
Yes.
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A wise man once said : BMS ops WHEN
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>>144326212
This pic makes me realize that the Israeli campaign for Strike Fighters 2 is actually pretty fun.
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>>144326212
pls no mods, at least until the new integrity check is in place.
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>>144326212
>So, what mods should we put in the mandatory pack for the serve
None for a public server.

Not least because it's impossible until 2.0s integrity checking arrives in 1.5
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>>144326771
a wiser man then replied: host ye for a man and thou shalt operate for the day, teach thy fellow man to host and he will operate forever
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>>144322754
He is the /simg/ top ace.
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>>144327476
thou shall not operate in another man's planfu
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>>144321179
>that feel as sol kills you with his deb-ris.
I never want that feel again..... So bms tonight?
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>>144327115
>>144327267
>not planning shit in advance
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>>144327891
?

Mods are fine for a private ops, we even had them before.
But having a modlist for a public server in dcs is fucking retarded,
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>>144328036
>But having a modlist for a public server in dcs is fucking retarded,
Lolno, not once integrity checks become a thing again.
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>>144328295
By which, I mean if you want anyone to play it.
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>>144328876
Oh we'll see about that.
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>>144328876

Considering how many people straight up avoid the ED forums and congregate on reddit, 4chan, and a dozen or so general-purpose flight sim boards, and all have the same complaints about the FC3 planes being cancer, and the lack of scaling being both unrealistic and giving further advantage to a handful of loudmouthed F-15 players; I think a public server with enforced mods would probably do well.

At the very least, it would keep out the cancer.
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>>144328876
>>144329168
Also if we get our merc thing running and host it with a a handful of open public slots for pubshitters, and they don't want to play with mods it's their loss.
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>>144329168
>At the very least, it would keep out the cancer.
Can't argue with that.
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If we have our own server with literally nothing changed except for at least small model enlargement, I'd already be a happy man.

If mods can be enforced, the we could do some cool shit. Visibility mod, terrain mod, missile mod, etc.
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>>144330248
>If mods can be enforced
in 2045, when 1.5 & 2.0 are merged
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>>144329784
Is this merc thing actually going to happen?

What planes?

I wanna to be part of a rag tag team of fishbed memers with the northeria skin.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtWw-_Nx8P0
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We need some Arstotzka and Kolechia liveries.
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>>144331380
Arstotzka boiz when
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>>144331590

Is there any way to edit the names of the cities and airfields in DCS? A papers please mod would be pretty goddamned cool.
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>>144329168
Are you saying ban F-15 from the server?
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>>144331771

If it's a 3rd gen server it would have no place. But even if we included 4th gen fighters, the truly cancerous players won't play if enlargement is on because they aren't interested in BFM.
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>>144331925
That's nice they can grow a pair and deal with it.
They told us the same shit when we were complaining about blueflags various faults.
I think if you included 4th gen it's should be all or none, excluding gods plane specifically is kinda gay desu.
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>>144331771
The problem is FC3's fighters. I'd be cool with AI controlled FC3 planes or the odd human controlled one if the mission is built with that in mind - and said FC3 fighter wouldn't be controlled by a pubshitter anyway. I'd even be fine with the A-10A and the Su-25T if there was a way to severely limit their ordnance (for example, only 2 guided missiles) so that they wouldn't make the other planes obsolete in the groundpounding aspect.
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>>144332564

You could remove guided missiles, the Su-25A and A-10A would then serve as slow, slightly more tanky ground pounders.

I'd probably still choose to sling a bunch of iron bombs to an F-5 or A-4.
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tfw noone has downloaded my texture pack to experience the glory that is DCS desert, DCS Vietnam, and the new Caucasus DLC in the most convenient and easy format possible.

Feels bad.
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>>144332564
So what's the problem you never really addressed that?
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>>144333196
>The problem is FC3's fighters
Do I really have to elaborate on that? Are you really that dense and/or clueless?
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>>144332564
>A-10A and the Su-25T if there was a way to severely limit their ordnance (for example, only 2 guided missiles)
If you take away the triple launch rails from the airbase stores in DCS the A-10 can only carry 2 mavericks max. Su-25A is ghetto as fuck already, it doesn't really matter that it can carry several Kh-25s when they're aimed the way they are. Guided missiles on the Grach-A are fun as fuck, makes me wish it was a full module.
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>>144333124
I downloaded it, gonna test it out later senpai
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>>144333532
Yes fuck face thats why I asked you to explain it further. Saying hurrrrr fc3 is the problem with no rhyme or reason is idiotic. Also you don't need to get ass blasted, it was a really simple question.
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>>144326212
>The terrain textures mod for the appropriate event
I wouldn't fancy having to download several gigs of textures just to play.
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>>144334302
The only answer you deserve is "kill yourself".
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>>144334886
Why is it that people who insult your intelligence always end up being fucking dumber than you are? Projecting their insecurities? Too fucking dumb to be self aware? How can you dislike something and not even be able to explain why? I expect that kinda shit from Xcom or Greg, not one of you fucks.
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>>144334817
Fine. Make it an optional albeit strongly recommended mod if possible? Not downloading aircraft skins would put you at a disadvantage because that'd be your IFF for Gazlels and L-39s unless you're flying the MiG-21 or the F-5.
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>>144334302
The concept under discussion is a 70s-era server, which most of the FC3 planes don't fit into, aside from the early Su-25 and A-10.

You should really learn to fucking read before posting stupid shit.
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>>144334302
>>144335287
Oh the irony. Please keep posting.
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>FC3 shitters aren't just bad at DCS, they're actually mentally deficient

o boi am i laffin
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>>144333196
>>144334302
>>144335287
I came here to laugh at you.
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>>144335474
I'm not sifting through 2 threads of shitpost to figure something out when I only slightly give a fuck.
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>>144331734
>Is there any way to edit the names of the cities and airfields in DCS? A papers please mod would be pretty goddamned cool.

MAAAAYBE, but i doubt it.
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>>144335940
I'll be having the final laugh when nobody plays on your server.
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>>144336032
Why are you even here in first place. Let me guess: you don't even play flight sims, you're one of those retards from /a3g/ that only come here to shipost.
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>>144332446
>excluding gods plane specifically is kinda gay desu.

It's up to the mission maker, and his envisioned scenario.
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>>144336186
As somebody already said, (FC3) pubshitters such as yourself are merely an afterthought. The less we have something to do with people like you, the better it is. Oh and for the record you can find the concept in this very thread, retard.
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>>144336610
Sick attitude. I'm sure that will draw loads of people to your server. Also jokes on you senpai I fly clicky pits and bms.
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>>144337018
>state that pubshitters are merely an afterthought
>passively aggressively replies with "baw I hope your server will be forever empty"
Serious question: are you genuinely retarded?
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Too much shitposting not enough plane posting
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>>144337418
Jesus and I though fc3 was cancer.
Self righteous clicky cockpit fags are almost at bms levels of smug.
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>>144338806
You come here, act like a dense retard at first, and then like a complete dick, and you expect us not to threat you accordingly? You reap what you sow.
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>>144336032
Everything you needed to know is contained in this thread, really.

You're just a stupid.
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I don't get it.
If you want to discuss things about the Planes & Mercs server.
You should've saw the Discord link all the way up, the first post after OP.

although it's kinda slow right now due to people being busy with their day time work/school whatnot
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>>144338985
>ask a question
>get called a slew of names
>I'm the dick
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>>144339838
>ask a really retarded question that was already answered in two posts, one being the exact post you replied to
>get a retarded answer
>get butthurt and start calling people names
>get laughed at
>get so much anally ravaged to the point that if you could harvest the heat generated by your anus and convert it into electrical energy you could become a billionaire in a matter of hours
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>tfw no one has blammed me for these retarded booty blasted posts yet.

Feels good man.

I agree with someone above, Su-25A is FC3, but it would fit in a 3rd gen server right?

The sooner we have enough planes to drop FC3 all together, the better.
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>>144339838
If you had just read a couple posts in the chain you were referring to, which clearly indicated that the server was shooting for a specific era of aircraft, which the FC3 planes don't fit into (the F-15C first flew in 1978, didn't enter service fully for a couple years later, for example), your stupid question would have answered itself.
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>>144340258
I am all for dropping FC3 but it would make playing on the server bloody expensive due to the need to own multiple pretty much all 3rdgen and before modules

But we could always make so that there be some FC3 slot for random pub to play against the regulars
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>>144340781
>need to own
>need

You keep using that word, I don't think you know what it means.

You can join the server and play just fine on the modules you do have. The only one that'd need all the modules is the server host, and guess fuckin' what, there are ways around that floating around on ED forums.
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>>144340781
Allow su-25t but limit ordinance?
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>>144340781
There's the Su-25A and the A-10A for that. Hell even the 25T might do if we give it the same weapon restrictions as the 25A and disable the CRT.
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>>144340183
Normal people just refer you to the post with the info.
Asshole like yourself just shitpost and meme because I guess it makes you feel better or whatever.
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>>144340294

Even if the setting migrates to the 80's the F-15, MiG-29, and Su-27 don't really have a place. Hell, the F-15 wasn't exported to anyone but America's closest allies in high value regions. No chance of seeing it in some regional war where the great powers have no economic or geopolitical incentive to intervene.

I mean we're talking about a fictional region where the MiG-15 is still being fielded, and the L-39 is a viable strike platform.
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>>144341069
Stop posting anytime.
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>>144341069
>jumping in at the end of a discussion without knowing what the fuck you're talking about, expecting everything to be explained to you, when the information is readily available to you if you just spent 10 seconds looking for it

>pls hold my hand and tell me everything because I don't want to have to lift a finger to do it myself

Flaming Cliffs 3 pilots, everybody.
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Is the Steam Controller good for driving compared to a 360?
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>>144341432
>he purchased a physical meme
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>>144341432
Pretty much everything is better than a 360 controller for any given application especially given the price (and I'm 100% serious and could even elaborate on that), but why in the fuck did you buy a Steam Controller?
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>>144340919
>The only one that'd need all the modules is the server host
He doesn't need to have any modules.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zq-iItRKxk

rate my aesthetic
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>>144341730
I thought you can't place "client" aircraft of modules you don't own, but I read that a while ago on the thread for Open Conflict, where Mirknir was complaining about something similar.

Seeing as Mirknir is fucking retarded and his server is mostly an unplayable mess of way too much scripting, I guess it's safe to assume he's just wrong.
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>>144341421
Well it worked I got all the information I was looking for and I didn't even look through the thread. I would say that's a win on my part.
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>>144341903
>that music
>those sound effects
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>>144341945
He's absolutely wrong, the thing is if you don't own the module the aircraft isn't highlighted with green text, and seeing as he's retarded...
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>>144341945

Nah you can. I don't own the Mirage but can put it in missions.
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>>144342398

it truly is great isn't it
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>>144342408
Okay, that's pretty funny.
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>>144342665
That shit is way too post ironic for me. At first I really thought that it was vaporwave or whatever its called, then I read the upload date.
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>>144341645
weak bait

360 controller is objectively the best gamepad ever made
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>>144340183
I could start again if you'd like?
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>>144343109
>weak bait
>coming from someone that just threw the fishing rod in the lake
Where do I even start? The useless dpad? The axes that have a huge dead zone, really bad sensibility, and the springs that hold them in in the centered position getting worn out after not even a year of use? Or the fact that it needs a dedicated dongle if you bought the wifi version while the DS3 can be used with a cheapo bluetooth module, or the cable it comes with? Or the buttons that aren't pressure sensitive?
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>>144343109

360 Pad is comfy and well built, but the D-Pad is shit.

Hori's 360 pad, on the other hand, is fantastic; probably my favorite PC gamepad (it also doubles as a buttonbox for DCS for low-importance things like autopilot)
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>>144343458

Only downside is how fucking ugly it is, and it's gawdy, entirely too-bright LEDs.
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First set of vehicles are plannedâ„¢ for the next Squad update.

https://joinsquad.com/readArticle?articleId=100
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>>144343730
>tfw no clickable cockpit
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>>144343432
>cheapo bluetooth module
*dongle
And the "no pressure sensitive buttons" is a legitimate complaint if you want to emulate PS2 games.

Also the plastic that covers the dpads gets worn out nearly as fast as the analog stick return springs, at least I saw that happen in mine. The cable also stopped functioning and I had to replace it. Do I need to go on?

>>144343458
>>144343690
Doesn't Hori make one that doesn't have the led and costs less anyway?
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>>144344216

No idea, I got mine at a thrift store for a fiver.
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>>144343432
>useless dpad
dpads in general are useless. even then it wasn't as bad as people made it out to be
>axes have a huge dead zone
lolwut
>really bad sensibility
nah they're actually very sensible ;)
>springs wear out
again, wtf are you talking about. i have ancient 360 gamepads that still work perfectly
>dedicated dongle vs ds3
yeah i'd rather take the dongle(or buy the wired patrician version) and have perfect comparability with 99% of pc games (most of which auto detect the 360 and even change the UI to match its layout) instead of dealing with 3rd party drivers and emulators

dualshocks were designed for gook manlets and didn't even have proper triggers until the ps4
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Another a e s t h e t i c af screenie from the Caucasus Desert mod.

Gives a very Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan feel.
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Why is desert combat the most aesthetic theater
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>>144345015

AESTHETIC
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>>144344829

Eh, There's just too much like... weird black stuff there
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>>144344482
>dpads in general are useless
Not if you're playing stuff from the NES/SNES era or arcade games. Or fighting games.

>lolwut
Yes. Try it with the windows calibration tool.

>nah they're actually very sensible ;)
No they aren't. The shit flickers, even with a brand new controller, the pots must be really bad.

>again, wtf are you talking about.
I perfectly know what I'm talking about. The analog sticks' return springs get worn out really fast for something with a 40+ bucks pricetag.

>yeah i'd rather take the dongle(or buy the wired patrician version) and have perfect comparability with 99% of pc games (most of which auto detect the 360 and even change the UI to match its layout) instead of dealing with 3rd party drivers and emulators
I never saw that as a problem.

>dualshocks were designed for gook manlets
Yeah, I'd like the dualshocks much better if they were bigger. If it wasn't for the stupid button layout I'd even bother with trying getting the original xbox douk controller working on my PC, at least for PS2 games.

>and didn't even have proper triggers until the ps4
That's a moot point. All of the DS2/3 buttons save for start/select/the sticks are pressure sensitive. And they're surprisingly accurate too.

What I'm trying to say is that the 360 wired pad isn't bad per se for general use (eg playing modern games), but the quality/price ratio is fucking abysmal.
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>>144345206

A E S T H E T I C
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>>144344829
That skin completely ruins the screenshot.
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>>144345418
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>>144345506
It triggers me that the Blue Flag kikes think that silly sky blue paint should be used by REDFOR's Su-25s, as well, anon.

That shit doesn't belong anywhere but in the garbage.
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>>144345620
That pilot has terrible posture
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>>144345620
Is he taking a shit in the cockpit?
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>>144345015
>dark gray paint scheme on those strike eagles
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>>144345783
>>144345816
He's trying to see shit in front of him without using the faggoty unrealistic zoom feature.

Lay off.
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>>144345972
Maybe he need glasses
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>>144346049
just needs a model enlargement fix
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>>144345972
>zoom feature.

this has literally pissed me off since I started playing this game
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>>144345972
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>>144346283
The human eye operates just like the Terminator's eyes, anon.

Didn't you know that?
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>>144345783
From what I've heard from F-117 pilots recounting stories, a lot of their work is done heads down and on autopilot, even through the actual release of weapons. Apparently the F-117's equivalent to a TGP had a very high workload. I don't remember the specifics, but there's a guy on F-16.net who has flown both A-10As and F-117s and he's told a bunch of stories about the insane level of planning and precision that was required when flying the F-117.
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>>144346295
>>144345620
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F-5 look so simple and so fun.

Can't wait.
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why are there so few mods to add in Warthog 3 pos switch function to the various modules

half of the inputs on my throttle are useless because of that. Like, the A-10C and the Mirage are the only aircraft that actually make use of it.
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>>144349576
There's a mod for the MiG-21 that allows for 3 positions switches as well afaik
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>>144350240
Like 95% of the switches in the MiG-21 only have two positions, though.

Only the radar and RWR switches are 3-way, and even then, it's a minority.

It's nice that having the 3-ways bindable on the hog is possible, though.
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>>144345506
>>144345668

I bothered me too don't worry. I just did 'Create Fast Mission' and it gave me the shitty skin.
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Are you guys in the vg cup?
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>>144350991
>Kh-25
>no fuel tanks
Shit nigger what are you doing?
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>>144351152
>fuel tank

What kind of pleb are you?
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>>144351102
No and hopefully that won't change anytime soon.
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>>144351248
The kind of pleb that wants to make it back home with a reasonable fuel margin.
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>>144351613
Just run it at 80%
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>>144352080
I don't think that prevents your air cover from fucking up, and therefore needing to burn more fuel if you want to stay alive.
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>>144351152
Killing targets less than 30km away.
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>>144352406
That's so 40's.
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>>144349576
Because it's simple enough to do on your own.
>find the file for the controls
>either modify an existing control or copy an existing one with a new name and new category if you want
>leave the down state command and add an up state command that put it back to the centre position
e.g.
Imagine you have a switch with positions 1, 2 and 3, position 2 can't actually be bound but there is a function for all three in the game. Therefore you have positions 1 and 3 act normally in the down state (when the switch is made) and then have both of them call the function for position 2 when unmade in the up state.
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>>144355931
Jesus Christ that keyboard.
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>>144350991
I don't understand why the Su-25A/T don't use the S-5 pod that the MiG-21 uses.

It's literally the same pod/same missiles.

ED what the fuck.
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>>144356048
Yeah, I've had it for many years and haven't cleaned it in a while. Gonna replace it soon.
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>>144355931
What is the stick itself? VKB? Doesn't the fact that it doesn't align by itself annoy you?
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>>144357287
SPACE MAVERICKS
P
A
C
E
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>>144357287
get out.
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I often lurk on SE.aviation and just found this gem

http://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/8950/can-a-passenger-jet-be-towed-to-safety-if-it-breaks-down-in-midair

PLANE TOWING OPS WHEN

I honestly don't even
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Alright boys I have a question. This is coming from a very new player, I mean 2 weeks new, so bear with me. The only other sim I've played and taken time to git gud at is Aces High II back in the day.

I'm trying to play the FC3 F-15 campaign, and I'm having problems with the navigation mode on the HUD.

When I take off I have the HUD in navigation mode headed to the first waypoint, I can see it on the kneeboard. The problem is, it seems my bank steering indicator isn't guiding me to the waypoint, but it's sending me in circles or kind of meandering around. I checked, and It's set to the first waypoint, and the ETA is usually 2-3 min, which seems about right, but the bank steering indicator still send me the opposite direction. So far I've been marking position on my kneeboard to navigate, which works alright but it's kind of a chore pressing ctrl+k every few seconds.

I'd like to use the HUD, but I don't really know how to troubleshoot this. Any help is appreciated, let me know if I'm missing something very obvious.
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>>144360906
are you confused about course intercept vs. way-pointing?
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>>144360906
There should be a keybind somewhere that toggles the selected waypoint, if it works anything like the other FC3 planes, which it should.

Check keybindings.
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Will the mirage get CCRP auto release? And how accurate do you think it will be? I like doing ground attack in this thing, because it reminds me of falcon, but everything sucks besides the mk-82 and rockets.
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>>144360906
1 is too switch between NAV modes and left ctrl ` is to cycle way points in gods plane.
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>>144361061
That could be. Could you explain the difference between the two?
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>>144361416
I don't fly the f-15, so I'm not certain about the exact systems on that plane. However, most nav systems will both point you in the direction of the next waypoint but will also try to get you onto the PATH to the waypoint as plotted. If you fall off that path, the system will try to route you to the shortest distance to get back on the correct path to the waypoint. Therefore, if you don't turn at the right rates, it is very easy to get stuck circling or even routed in the opposite direction of the waypoint.
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>>144361068
Yeah, eventually. They're more focused on the INS system for some reason. I think the MWS and the CCRP auto release should be of a bigger priority IMO.
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>>144361279
So you're saying that it's staying on the first waypoint and trying to send me there the whole time? I have to actually cycle the waypoints as I pass them?
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>>144361741
>MWS

I didn't even know the Mirage has this, but holy hot fuck, I want it NOW.

INS isn't terribly important when 90% of multiplayer servers just keep everything pure VFR conditions.
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>>144361756
They should automatically cycle if you pass them, close enough to the target altitude and position of the waypoint, at least the Su-27 does if I recall correctly.

The avionics/nav system operation of the Su-27 and F-15 in FC3 are functionally identical, just with different flavors/paintschemes put on top.
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>>144361756
Yes.
Typically in most multiplayer servers way point 1 is Bulls eye and way point 0 is the base you took off from. Also on most servers bulls eye is a focal point for combat.
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>>144361741
>>144361953
I thought they said they weren't doing the MWS because they don't have any real data on it since it's classified

Same reason they aren't implementing the jammer power settings
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>>144362208
wait I'm wrong this nigga be right>>144362180
they cycle automatically
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>>144356704

I have a similar setup; it's a microsoft force feedback 2, when it's powered up it auto-centers, in fact when you trim a plane or helo it'll change the center position of the stick. There really isn't anything else out there that is as realistic feeling.
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>>144362941
The "aviation" class my school had as part of its meme-tier career-centric education program for 8th graders had these things.

Man, I want go to back to 2005.
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>>144363123
That one's every so slightly modified anon.
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>>144363449
yeah, I just recognized the base.
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>>144362312
I don't recall them saying that. It's already in the Mirage just really WIP. I sometimes get M launch warnings especially if it's an AMRAAM. Even the D2M knob is modeled in the mirage, which should give us IR missile warnings. I should ask them about it in their Q&A tonight.
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>>144363841
>I sometimes get M launch warnings especially if it's an AMRAAM.

That's because it's a radar missile
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>>144362180
Alright, so that can't be the problem. Thanks for the input.

>>144361708
>most nav systems will both point you in the direction of the next waypoint but will also try to get you onto the PATH to the waypoint as plotted. If you fall off that path, the system will try to route you to the shortest distance to get back on the correct path to the waypoint. Therefore, if you don't turn at the right rates, it is very easy to get stuck circling or even routed in the opposite direction of the waypoint.

That's probably what's going on. How do I know I'm turning at the right rates? Also, the mission briefing said I needed to be at angels 25 "throughout the flight". If I'm not there by the first waypoint, could that affect anything?
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>>144363841
Please do ask about it, anon.

I had been under the assumption that D2M wasn't fitted to the 2000C although the cockpit retains the switches for it, but I really don't know dick about the Mirage, nor enough French to be able to figure it out, so I'm probably off-base.

Having that sweet missile warning system would be nice, though. You sure about the IR missiles bit, though?
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>>144363841
lets interrogate these fucks, I'm looking at a shit ton of goodies made by sand people and poo in the loos that was stuck on the mirage.
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>>144363995
Depending how low you are when passing that first waypoint, it may not be registering that you've passed it, and may want you to go around again.

In this case you should be able to just switch to the next waypoint though, and they should automatically proceed from there.

The "ultimate argument" campaign for Su-27 has a lot of fuckery going on requiring switching between waypoints for patrol routes, I'm really just speaking from experience regarding that. I think it should work the same in the F-15/basic FC3 campaigns though.
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By the way, that Discord was supposed to be at 9-10PM EST.

It's 9:05.

Everybody get in here. https://discordapp.com/channels/132657043734659072/188033118681300992
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