http://pastebin.com/pYdwfntu
How do we save KoF?
gay furry general
Is the golden age of fighting games over
reminder that SFV FUCKING SUCKS
and I regret ever giving ono a fucking penny
http://www.capcom-unity.com/haunts/blog/2016/06/02/updates-on-street-fighter-v-development-vol-1
Reminder to witch games now to not stay behind in a year.
there's still a street fighter general if you only want to talk about sf
>>144255827
>>144255576
>>144255479
You guys need to go to /r/starcraft if you want to see REAL shitposting.
It's a good thing blizzard fucking killed that gamejust like all their other franchisesbecause the community is either really good or actually the worst.
let's talk about yang in 2nd impact
>>144256010
It will fal or raise with tekken 7. Smash 4 will be our emergency mattres to soften the fall.
>>144256041
>arcsys paid him to come at WNF and shill on twitter
of course he would say that lmao he is a businessman
>>144256189
>Smash 4 will be our emergency mattres to soften the fall.
I'd rather hit the pavement
Response to the Combo Breaker 2016 Incident
After reviewing the details from all parties we have come to a decision to release Noel Brown from the Ultra Arcade team, and ban Noel from competing in ALL Ultra Arcade Events, & ALL Killer Instinct World Cup Qualifiers (Including the Cup itself) for the duration of the KIWC 2017 Season.
We will re-evaluate Noel’s eligibility to attend our events in the 2018 season.
Ultra Arcade and KI World Cup have a Zero Tolerance for Sexual Harassment and we do not condone any acts of harassment. Warranted or Unwarranted that type of behavior is unacceptable and will not be tolerated.
We would like to thank Richard Thiher(Head of Combo Breaker) for helping us get to the bottom of everything and getting everything resolved in a timely matter.
Sincerely,
Brandon Alexander
better don't mess with the /scv/s
>>144256234
Who wasn't bought valle at this point?
>>144256189
i wish smash 4 was better
like how could they have dlc and still be missing characters
what the fuck is charizard doing there without squirtle and ivysaur
>>144256010
back to the dark ages we go
>>144256064
HOLY COW
>>144256010
I'm glad the boom is over
>>144256156
I hate the twins. Divekicks are bad and I don't see why they are in any game ever
>>144256302
The fuck?
That's way too much, why couldn't it just be a slap on the wrist or wiping points?
>>144256262
>I'd rather hit the pavement
Feel free to freefall >>>/vg/sfg/
Where can I go for USF4 resources? I seriously have been enjoying doing the trials and playing arcade on that more than SFV and im thinking I might as well learn it and play a game I like.
>>144256512
chun li era will be over when yun shows up. but dont worry like chun li we all know people will say yun is the best but never place like usual
If you could combine mechanics from any fighting game together into one super game, which ones would you bring in?
Who would do the backgrounds and character design?
>>144256520
Nigri Brown is not a first timer. He is a typical marvelfag so he has a long record list of behaving like adolf in france.
>>144256368
It's only lacking in more single player modes, it is very wel developed as multiplayer game.
>>144256347
>The depth you are looking for in SFV = Hard reads/commitment
Don't you need commitment in ANY fighting game to be good lol?
>>144256552
Youtube should still be filled with tutorials. Also a ton of high level matches from past tourneys you can all watch and learn from.
>>144256696
Soul Calibur x Samurei Showdown
Samurei Showdown x Soul Calibur
>>144256302
Who did what?
>>144256552
the pastebin in the OP should have tons of good material unless they changed it when SFV came out
where are you at?
>>144256696
>If you could combine mechanics from any fighting game together into one super game, which ones would you bring in?
Not really sure. I'm not good at designing games.
>Who would do the backgrounds and character design?
Vanillaware
>>144256846
That's the joke. Everyone knew the game got butchered during betas from an already not so great state. But you gotta keep the hype paytrain on rolling.
>>144256696
CvS3 but with less capcom top tiers and some actual fucks given for balance
>>144257026
but ofc no matter what game you play. SF will always have a bigger scene/comp because of big names keeping the hype (and getting $$$)
>>144257018
sniffposting vs. kposting
we're in for a wild ride /fgg/
>>144257018
im not a pedo
i used to play tekken and doa3.....
>>144257496
want to play some fightcade, kposter anon?
>>144257018
>>144257320
That's it I'm leaving for /sfg/.
>>144257496
>doa3
doa2u was so much better imo
>>144257496
>>144257018
are we slowly turning into /sc2g/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGvCY06VWr4
why does this fag have so many views...
doa2 or 3 was one of the first games i ever playd and it came with my ps2
>>144256012
yea im done with this shit, what are some goat fighters I can learn
>>144257018
a god
>>144257768
doa3 was on xbox you liar
>>144257715
DoA always felt like a Water'd down version of VF.
Not to say the game is bad, thats just what it felt like it to me
>>144257902
then it must have been 2
i only remember an american blonde with big tits and kasumi being in it
>>144257864
try any game and you'll come back crawling to sfv
call it sc2g one more time i FUCKING dare you
heh >:D
>>144258003
yea you fucking wish I will when theres 10 people left playing that trash
>>144257930
it was a more crazy less competitive vf but with boobies
>>144258049
sc2g
>>144258049
star craft 2 general
sc2g
whats wrong about it
Post your best trainingboar music
https://youtu.be/1FD4bSgQXT0
>>144258238
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvmVnTQtZQY
>>144258063
see you in 2 weeks
>>144258238
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI2NDJ6TxBg
look at all these tryhards who can't even git gud at babby fightan games with 6 buttons lmao
>>144257864
Wait for Goat Simulator Im a Fighter edition.
>>144258238
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkEXUFlh_EA
>>144258151
>whats that
it lets you play classic games online using really good netcode
we could play street fighter alpha, kof, or 3s or something right now
fightcade.com
>>144258238
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7rCyll5AeY
>>144258116
this girl reminds me of asuka langley
>>144257864
Best Fighter
>>144257864
Any KoF will do. The series is like a better sf for many years.
>>144258409
>fightcade.com
sounds like a botnet tbqh
>>144258238
https://youtu.be/052VUCIa0LM
what is your honest opinion on this man??
>>144258116
I actually miss the doll faces and bodies. Fuck that new uncanny shit
>>144258238
Fuck off to your containment subreddit >>>/vg/sf/
>>144258443
https://youtu.be/c7rCyll5AeY?t=160
>that perfect gook at that time
holy shit
>>144258674
a literal bonjwa
>>144258674
Really good player.
Kinda sad I don't see him play other games.
>>144258593
>sounds like a botnet tbqh
its all open source
but all you seem interested in doing is shitposting, so feel free to do that I guess
>>144258674
He's a madman
What the fuck is wrong with this nigger?
>>144258593
Way less than steam and psn.
>>144258701
>sf
>requiring any trainingboaring
>>144258828
what's his name again?
>>144258912
mike ross
>>144258674
A betrayer to his countrymen. No true korean would play sleep fighter over tekken.
>>144258803
>entirely done in python
>good netcode
hahaha
hahahahhahahahHAHAHh
AHHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHA
>people think the story mode is actually coming out this month when they couldn't even finish ibuki
>>144259013
Why are you here if you don't have faith?
>>144258992
uhh.. tekken is a japanese game
all games coming out of korea are grindy mmos that die out within 2 months of release
>>144258828
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTNya_UUNFY
a lot of stuff
@144258995
Not sure if just that much of a newfag or just a sad sf fanatic "trolling" his tears away.
How invited /sc2g/?
This place doesn't need this kind of shitposting.
Did any of you actually enjoy fighting a player controlled Seth throughout SF4's lifespan?
>>144259086
every other game is dead there is no other choice
>>144259013
there already showing story mode to the press
>>144258674
he's going to switch to ibuki and rape everyone with setups
>>144259112
The Samba de Amigo cab is the real victim in all of this.
>>144259113
>python instead of C
>for any serious 1v1 competitive esport
>>144258995
only the gui client with chat and lobbies is in python
its written using pyqt, which calls into qt which is c++
the netcode itself is in the modded FBA emulator which is written in c++
>>144258992
Tekken and KoF
Would love to see Knee vs Infiltration play a few rounds of SF5 or T7
>>144259089
Marvel is also made in japan but only played and worshipped in america.
>>144256696
samurai shodown + super turbo w/ 3s graphics
>>144258674
he works harder than everoyne else
he wins harder than everyone else
>>144258828
he can't keep his hands off women
>>144259162
typical phone poster
>>144259210
Overwatch dude
Best fighting game of 2016, without a doubt
>>144258828
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcbmd0xtXZI
isnt noel the guy commentating this?
>>144259196
>what if we give him every tool in the game
>genius!
whoever said this was good boss design should be shot
>>144259264
If we could go back in time and tell US players to git gud at roll cancels in CvS2, would they have clung to MvC2 so tightly in the following years?
>>144259196
Not really but I like him as boss.
>>144259360
Was he/she employed by /sfg/? If so, they aren't taking any prisoners.
>>144259383
He had no health or stun, so isn't it fair? Zangief wrekt him.
>>144259383
that is a good boss design. its just not original or transitions well to a playable character
>>144259383
It is good boss design, in the sense that he's supposed to be oppressive. Look at Shao Khan. Whoever thought it was good character design needs to be shot.
http://www.capcom-unity.com/haunts/blog/2016/06/02/updates-on-street-fighter-v-development-vol-1
Moving forward, the development team will continue to put quality of the product above all else. This may result in additional delays in content deployment. That said, we will be much more transparent when plans change so all of our fans know what to expect.
>This may result in additional delays in content deployment.
>>>>>>This may result in additional delays in content deployment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>This may result in additional delays in content deployment.
lol
just
lol
>>144259248
Keep knee away from that shitty early access scam.
>>144259628
>make a character overpowered
>balance it by taking off one hit worth of hp and stun
ummm lol?
>>>144259694
nice facebro meme
/sc2g/ invented that btw
>>144259492
Yes and No.
Sure more people would of switched but you gotta realize that MvC fans are more or less a special kinda fan. MvC fans will keep playing their game way past it due date.This is coming from a MvC fan
>>144259492
You should rather tell them to adopt the freaking eo version. You get a better game and give capcom more money for a recent product=maybe not as big crash of capcom fighters.
>>144259694
>We have heard reports of input delay and have shared it with the development team. They are currently looking into the reports and we will let you know as soon as we find out more.
do you think he could type this with a straight face?
>>144259694
>the development team will CONTINUE to put quality of the product above all else
>more delays
>capcom fantics face when
>>144256420
Are you retarded or do you just hate competition?
>>144260369
Less casuals means more passionate players and more games pandering towards the "true" players.
>>144260673
What's the hardest fighting game boss? I'm inclined to say omega rugal but that's just cause I'm a KoF fag
>>144256420
>every major this year broke attendance records
you're in the eye of the storm of the boom
>>144260749
super turbo
>>144260749
gill was pretty retarded
>>144260673
>Less casuals means more passionate players and more games pandering towards the "true" players.
>>144260749
dural is pretty unfair depending on the stage. i mean she has options to maul you at the wall but on open stages center to ring out is nothing especially if youre a light character
>>144260749
sf4 seth
>>144260749
ST Akuma
>>144261018
Dural in ANY VF is fucking stupid
>>144261069
that fight was easy
>>144261018
also this wasnt very fun with mei fang but I did it with weiss but i cant remember how long it took me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eba2_k6krhQ
>>144260749
Both Omega Rugal and T5 Jinpachi for me
>>144260673
I really hope you're not this retarded. Did you not see what happened in the last dark ages? No one did shit besides Capcom players who stuck to the latest Capcom games. The only community that grew was Smash.
Games like KoF were completely fucking dead during the dark ages, like 14 man side tournaments at Evo dead, SF3 wasn't even played seriously until years after it's release, and people had to travel to get any real competition. Why in the fuck would you want this? I'm honestly curious to why in the fuck you think the dark ages is a good idea if you live in the west.
Not to mention everyone was a lot worse at the games outside of players who played fighters before the dark ages like John Choi.
>>144261360
FOR ANTS
>>144261207
meant for >>144261032
>>144260749
abyss from MVC2.
>>144246349
>ki is like darkstalkers
ahahhaAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
saving that one out of context for future laughing at how shit fgg
How the hell is it NOT?
>Instinct Mode is a modified version of Dark Force
>Similar round structure
>Monster fighter using similar fictional archetypes tropes for its characters and cast as a whole
>Some characters have their mechanics outright lifted from Vampire Savior and anime fighting games
What Tekken game should I play on PC while waiting for Tekken 7?
whens the next bleach fighting game?
does japan even care about bleach anymore
>>144261568
Easy as fuck, just have storm so you can hit the ball easier on the later stages.
KI high level play is kinda boring to watch.
You can't really get into big combos cause you'll most likely get Combo Breaker'd so the game turns into pokes and grab punishes
Hey guys, wha's the damn trick.
I cant do combos in any kof.
combo link system is weird.
my latino genes are not helping.
plz halp
non related pic
What Tekken game is alright to play around with casually, with no real intention of going to any local scenes?
I own Tekken 3, 4, 5, and 6 which came with a shitty fightstick that I cant even mod.
Should I just play 6 for the giggles, or an older one?
Forgive me for letting my /vr/ side out for a change.
>>144260749
tekken 5 last boss literally cheated
>>144261714
>does japan even care about bleach anymore
does anyone
I felt like playing Makoto so I reinstalled Ultra. I was surprised by how much more fun I had than playing V.
>>144261770
you're used to sfv's super slow link system with a buffer
kof is super fast and the rekkas are super slow with super quick cancels to start your rekkas
so like fast a, fast a fast qcfa slow qcfa qcfb is kyo's jab jab light rekkas with kick ender
>>144261892
focus is a really fun mechanic despite all the hate it gets
Is SFV less complex than Super Turbo? Sometimes I feel like it is.
>>144261804
any of them if you find them fun idiot
>>144261951
It absolutely is not
>>144261804
TTT2 since it has a shitton of characters and a bunch of silly stuff.
>>144261689
>Tekken
>PC
Choose oneIf you actually want to play Tekken to get semi ready for T7 play eaither Tekken 6 or Tekken 5:Dark Resurrection.
The good thing about Tekken is most combos transfer from game to game so combos you learn in Tekken 3 will most likely work in Tekken 6
>>144261804
tekken 6 has my favourite story mode out of any fighting game, it's basically a 3-d beat'em up but when you get close to an enemy you "lock on" and fight them like it was a tekken fight.
you get health and damage from cosmetics so it's got an rpg element to it
>>144261762
it's the second form I find difficult desu.
>>144262035
it actually is
>>144261892
are you on pc
>>144262035
It is if you play Fei
>>144261951
>mechanic that ruins footsies
>fun
09er exposed
>>144261932
I don't even play SF's
I'm more like a Guilty gear , skullgirls scrub
so, it has to be a lot faster or what?
when i saw people playing is like the du inpus in some rythme
is it possible to stand a chance without having defeated sheng long first?
>>144261770
>>144261932
hes right, I was doing the kof trials and it took me a while to get used to it, you have to do stuff REALLY fucking fast compared to SFV
>>144262118
PS4
>>144258756
thats a nip
>>144259694
"You just need to quit complaining and stop making excuses for your losses, the input delay was intended by Capcom #riseup"
Glad people like Snake Eyes called this bullshit out instead of just settling with it. It is clear that it was not intended and just shitty programming. I mean damn, playing with a legacy controller gives you less lag lmao, how do you fuck up that badly?
>>144262257
>gg and skullgirls
ok you're too fast, you mash out cancels instead of links
>capcom literally said nothing in the blog post
and people will defend this?
>>144262304
upvoted t b h
>>144262347
it's a korean band moron
>>144262359
snake eyes is just mad because he's shit and can't get out of pools
>>144261804
literally any of them. just don't let people pick jin in tekken 4. tag 2 is also really fun casually thanks to pair play.
>>144262417
yea but the girl at 2:40 is japanese
I just rewatched Excellent Adventures with Floe, holy shit that was funny. Will it ever be that good again?
>>144262603
>there's someone funnier than floe in the fgc
no
>>144262417
thats a nip
>>144262375
p-please keep playing
I-I swear itll be fixed
b-but we have to delay more stuff first
>>144262571
why would a japanese girl be doing kpop
>>144261689
emulate tekken 5 dr or tekken 6 both on psp.
>>144262359
Here is the thing tho, japanese players are still dominating big international tournaments so it's not random and you can still react to shit. snake eyez is shit
>>144262645
obese kyke is not funny
>>144262701
$$$
>>144262645
I meant the USIV era in general
>>144262701
multiculturalism
>>144261764
>KI high level play is kinda boring to watch.
>You can't really get into big combos cause you'll most likely get Combo Breaker'd so the game turns into pokes and grab punishes
This is... pretty much Street Fighter V, isn't it?
>>144262946
stfu dont make fun of street fighter its the best
http://imgur.com/e8nwjVt?r
>doesnt care she was under the influence
>whatever the consequences may be, Im sure its already decided
>you have to deal with it
Wow, what a great testament to how a woman gets away with this, yet the man is left taking all the heat. How fucking selfish. At first, it sounded bad, but now I understand his side of the story. If a girl fucked around with me last night, I'd play with her, too.
>>144262946
Switch out fishing out Combo Breakers to Counter Crushes and pretty much
>>144263072
*Crush Counter
>>144263036
>If a girl fucked around with me last night, I'd play with her, too.
Right after a group photo in front of stream cameras? What Noel did was probably alright in another setting if she was feeling up his butt before but not randomly in front of everyone.
>>144262694
one day the fgc is going to walk out on sfv
mike and floe will walk off the set
the japanese players will go back to other games or older games
americans will finally admit the game is shit and stop shilling it
other places will drop it as well
or at least, we can dream
>>144262513
I agree and I dont think the input lag would have helped him much, he just needs to drop Gief. I dont understand why he doesnt play something like Ryu or Ken, he had a great E.Ryu in Ultra.
>>144262717
Of course you can still react to shit, I am just glad that a very well known player was one of the first to start speaking up about it. If the 8f were intentional then there would be no problem, that is the game. However its clear that it was not intentional and 8 frames of lag is substantially higher than most games even if its only 2.3 more than SF4. The original PS4 version of Ultra had 8f of lag and it was only until they brought the input lag down to the same level as the 360 version that it became tournament standard. It was a bigger deal in that game because of the much more demanding execution, however it is still a problem in SFV.
>>144262603
I rather enjoyed the back and forth with Aris
>>144263219
It was quick ass grab. Done anywhere that isn't liberal city. Since the person wanted to remain anonymous, it was likely caused by someone who saw it and simply bitching about it.
>>144262701
who cares shes perfect
>>144262603
can i watch this show without really paying attention to the gameplay?
>>144263306
>it was likely caused by someone who saw it
It was on stream live for Combo Breaker, thousands of people were watching
I agree that her saying what he did was 'inappropriate' after fucking around with him previously is bullshit. I also think that if it was a girl pinching a guy's butt NOTHING would have happened. But them's the breaks. Noel isn't exactly someone with a good track record.
>>144263430
Probably? I started watching before I started playing.
>>144263252
That and the kbrad episodes were best.
How can I play Killer Instinct on Windows 7?
>SFV is so desperate for players its now trying to get literal kids into it
L M F A O you cant even make this shit up
>>144263430
you can listen to it
>>144263563
You can't it requires Windows 10
>>144263684
or an xbox one :^)
>>144263036
Noel "Big Dick" Brown's fault was doing it in front of thousands of people while on camera.
>>144263585
and theyll still be better at fighting games than you
LMAOOOOOOOOOO
>>144263585
That's great.
All the oldest people in the community started as literal kids, back in the old days.
That's how you make things grow.
>>144263585
tfw I was prob his age when I played This game at my local arcade
Fuck I feel old
Why did arcsys waste time and money creating this when they could have just made simple superior menus like capcom?
>>144264278
Can't wait for the 2017 SFV dlc where they add this
>>144264234
tfw cant find my Tekken 3 disk
>nignog grope-fondles a white girl
Nice one FGC
>>144264278
fuck that I want to go fishing and play soccer while waiting to get bodied in xrd
>>144264439
he dindu nuffin
so whens balrog dudes
>>144264439
she touched his ass first believe it or not
>>144264672
>>144259694
hes not going to be here for a looooooong time
>>144264672
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""september"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>>144264736
>>144259694
>>144264750
HOW IS THIS LEGAL THEY FUCKING
P R O M I S E D
US MONTHLY RELEASES
WHAT THE FUCK
I am suing.
>>144264708
Seems unlikely.
>hein has a rekka and a dive kick
butler bois
anyone want to play super gem fighter
>>144264924
someone posted the conversation they had in the last thread
>>144264856
I dont know but if they are on grounds tp get sued and you end up having a good chance at winning go for it
Daily reminder Noel Brown did nothing wrong.
Daily reminder they were just joking.
Daily reminder she did it first.
Daily reminder that there is evidence of this.
>friend keeps talking about how good he is at the mvc series
>keep telling him It's shit and to play me at a real fightan game
>he says he'd "dominate me" in any fighting game, but can't get him to dl fightcade
>finally get him to play me at sf2 because we happen by an arcade cabinet at a supermarket
>give him the old combo into stun into throw treatment for the effortless 3-0
Is there any better feeling?
>>144265214
>anyone want to play super gem fighter
i dont know how to play is there a tutorial somewhereq
>>144263036
wait, andre's girl was fucking noel?
looooool
>>144265852
only black people care about gossip
>>144265820
http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Pocket_Fighter
Super Gem Fighter might be the deepest fighting game Capcom ever released, while being one of their most casual titles at the same time.
>>144265614
evidence doesn't matter because black male white woman
>>144265614
fake
>>144265708
>Happen by an arcade cabinet
What country?
>>144265945
>http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Pocket_Fighter
>pages of text
i want a guide like that kof youtube video
I wish I could hug Akiha...
>tfw preordered the deluxe edition of kof 14
august 23 when
Is GGPO kill and Fightcade all there's left?
>Ryo Sakazaki's younger sister managed to learn deadly techniques in less than one year after joining the Kyokugenryu Dojo. As a fighting genius, Yuri has brought her personal touch to her martial art. She trains hard every day in order to be recognized by her big brother, and establish her own dojo in the future.
http://www.snkplaymore.co.jp/us/games/kof-xiv/teams/artoffighting.php
>>144266185
well then get fucked you fucking retard.
>>144265614
real nigga hours @ onblastshow
>>144266848
back to the dark ages
>>144266405
I would preordered the deluxe edition but I'm a Canadian so It's either KoF or rent that month.
>>144266953
how rude
>>144266851
Cool.
Bros, I have to quandaries I hope you can help me with.
>1. Primal Rage
>is it good
>should I get it
>if so, which version? (I have a SNES and PS1, but might be willing to pick up a Genesis if it's notably better on that platform)
When that game came out in the arcade, I begged my parents to go there every day to play. I was fucking obsessed. Action figures, you name it. That was when I was about 5 or so back when the game first came into arcades. As I grew older I forgot about it. But I just remembered how much I loved it and am now wondering why I never had it for or played it on a console. And being an "adult" with a disposable income, I fucking want it.
>2. Dead or Alive 5: Last Round
The only thing I need to know about this game is if the DLC is worth getting. Just grabbed the game today and so far I fucking love it. But on the PSN, I saw a bundle of some kind for 30 bucks (I think it's just all the DLC available but I'm not sure, is it?). Should I get it or is it not really worth it?
Sorry for these reddit tier walls of text, but I didn't wanna shit up the thread with 50 posts about each of these things individually. I'll zuk ya dick for any help or advice. Thanks lads.
>>144263036
Right this is so fucked up.
The moral of the story is that females are not to be trusted.
#TheseHoesAintLoyal
testing some wan piss
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geese,
how you gonna have your son making sandwiches for another man?
>>144266851
Real autism
>>144268349
i'm sorry you'll never get laid.
>>144265614
Is there any way to prove that this is real at all?
>>144263036
Imagine how much you have to hate women to white knight for fucking NOEL BROWN
>>144268514
yea its real because I said so
>>144267197
There's a gazillion dollars worth of DOA5 DLC - it's all costumes.
The value is really down to what you want to look at.
>>144268629
you dont think theres a bit of a double standard here?
i think /fgg/ is better for talking about video games but r/kappa is better for da blow ups such as Noel drama
>>144269038
I think you should stick to kappa and never come back
