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>>144068609
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1nd for
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2st for qualityposting
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3rd for ded botes
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love this meme tier
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>>144254112
Wee armored boobs
These japans are truly extraordinary
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6st for ded weebshit and ded weebs
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>>144254112
>deDDest

I dont get it, DDs werent involved in her demise at all.
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>>144253710
>1: Sail Locker

Why does a steam turbine ship have a locker for sails?
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8th for Admiral Hipper is a Gud Bote
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>>144254006
>The Tennessee class was a class of battleships of the United States Navy. The class comprised two ships: Tennessee and California. They were modified versions of the New Mexico class featuring improved underwater armor for better torpedo protection and 30-degree elevation on their main batteries, as opposed to 15 degrees for the New Mexicos.

That must mean they have great range, right? WHEN
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>>144254379
It's because baBBies can't deal with them
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>wyoming is good
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Compreme a Tirpitz por favor senor
PLEASE HELP
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>>144254556
>tfw sold her because 5.6 didnt fix her fucked up turret arcs and that was the only thing keeping me from liking her

>Then 5.6.1 rolls out days later
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>>144254556
she looks the same
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>>144256782

its okay chain....you can buy her back eventually
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>>144257395
Isn't Chain that guy from ages ago who accidentally sold his Iowa?
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>>144257817
no, that was someone else.
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>>144257817
chain is a girl
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>Play Shokaku
>Give up on doing anything for the first 10 minutes.
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>>144258117
I don't believe you.
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>>144258117
i, chain_chomp, can confirm this

buy me an indy and I will show tits
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>>144258425
autismati are you a boy or a girl?
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Gun or torp mods for Farragut?
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>>144256782
It works perfectly and looks good now.
I got her all the upgrades and modules and i'll keep her despite having a Roon.
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Is the Warspite really that bad? I mean I love my BB's but what could be so bad about it?

Or should I just get Indy?
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>>144258868
>Buying premium ships
>Buying anything WG related
>Buying anything
>Buying
>B
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how has this game come along, played in beta but didn't know if the population would stay
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>>144260073
D E D
E
D
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>>144259204
I'll buy you one too. Don't worry.
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>>144260073
Jap DDs and American DDs switched places in usefulness.
CVs are kill.
Russian tech tree is a thing and both cruisers and destroyers are excellent, as predicted.
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Kriegsmarine reporting in
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wew
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>>144260558
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when
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>>144257817
that was Wave.

It was hilarious.
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>>144264310
Too similar to NoCar ))
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>>144258868
No, it's really not that bad.
It's just got dodgy armor, the range and speed are mediocre and the turret traverse is close to the worst in the game, outside of that the guns are really good, it turns well, and has decent enough AA.
I enjoy mine quite a bit, but if I could go back I probably wouldn't have bought it for the price I did.
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>NA is getting 40% T10 repair cost reduction
>meanwhile SEA still doesn't even have the fucking 25% that everyone else gets
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summoning chain_chomp
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>>144260824
>He fell for the iSHITsushi meme
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>>144265651
>40%
???
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>>144266203
http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/reduced-repair/
>Prior to this testing period, it could be tough to repair high-tier ships, which may have made them less enjoyable to play. But now we're reducing the repair costs by approximately 40% at tier X, and 25% at tiers VII-IX. Captain your favorite high-tier ships more frequently!
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Stats-kun, are you there? Did you get enough useful information from the previous thread?
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>>144266648
Whoever wants to answer is still welcome to. The current sample size is not particularly large but that's fine. Making gross overgeneralizations based off of an underpowered study is what makes statistics fun, after all.
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>>144265651
That's the price you hafta pay for being gud.
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>enemy cruiser 12km away
>the farragut and colorado next to me fire at him nonstop for like 3 minutes and only hit him 2 or 3 times
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>>144266296
>only for June
>won't even have Izumo until at least a week from now, let alone have my Hotel this month

just
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>>144267408
you'll probably get another similar event afterwards anyway
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>>144267481
It better be permanent, if people were less afraid of repair bills maybe the high tier meta wouldn't be so cancerous.
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>>144258425
sloot

>>144260396
buy me tachibana :^)
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>>144267706
>maybe the high tier meta wouldn't be so cancerous.
I don't think the people who make the meta so cancerous would actually notice consciously.
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>>144267941
When you're losing dosh on 120k+ damage victories with all the credit bonuses possible just because you lost only half of your health, it's sure as hell going to be putting some people off being too aggressive.
Even if it's not all, just getting some people more willing to risk scratching their paint would be a start. Not to mention the fact that top tier MM in general is pretty shitty because there's just not that many people there, which is why games keep ending up with something like an Iowa v Yamato as their team's top tier BBs.
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Is a Gun Shimakaze/Ghetto Khabarovsk setup viable? I'm tempted. It's not like the ship isn't at the bottom of the dog pile as is, and with the range extension mod it should definitely be enough to stealth fire.
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>>144267941
It's really not about the costs in the end. What ruins T10 is the increased range of everything. You have to stay longer through enemy fire to make a push. Even with the increased health pools, it's not enough.

Reduced repair costs help, but it's only treating a symptom, not the illness. If you pasted T8 stats on all the T10 ships, the tier would suddenly be playable, maybe even fun.
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>>144269871
If you pasted the T8 stats on the T10 ships it would remove half of the reason that people play it. People like the bigger numbers.
Only some of the bigger numbers are worse for the game than others, like ranges on guns and previously torpedoes, and fire chances in some cases.
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>>144270186
It's just an example. Of course it'd have to be done more throughly.

There'd have to be an increase in damage output and health, but less extreme than it is now.

Range needs to stay at T8 levels. Anything more than 21km is pointless and just justifies terrible practices and stale gameplay. And while at it, reduce the speed on Yamato's shells. I don't know the muzzle values, but they do travel very fast, even faster than what the numbers suggest. This makes cruiser dodging much more difficult than in previous tiers, and it wouldn't be necessary if she didn't have 26km range..
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For Iowa Upgrades: Accurancy,Reload or AA?
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>>144271172
Accuracy
you can already buff the AA in a bunch of other ways
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>>144256782
Your fault for not waiting you impatient fuck.
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>>144271172
Accuracy
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>>144264890
But not too similar that it can't become a T8 prem BB))))))
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>>144276356
You're of genius Boris!
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>it's a "DD chases enemy carrier around the whole map, watches teammates die and contributes nothing" episode
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Ive come to a realization

I will have to use the Izumo for the bulk of my hotel grinding

I thought i could just use the PP flags i bought and play fun ships to get the Yamato

But after so many games and only amassing 30k free xp, i see that i need to bite the bullet and play the Izumo

I can only hope that there are people on NA that are grinding T9s or willing to help me in this endeavor
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>>144278030
I am also grinding the Izumo. Do you want to suffer with me for the next few weeks?
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So do we have any ideas regarding stars needed per rank this go around or what the safe levels are?
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>>144277909

Want an even better episode?
>DD closes in on the carrier
>Uses only torpedos and fails miserably with each try
>Refuses to use guns
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>>144277909
oh, that mighty dd, she could save those dying teammates all
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>>144278302
!
KITTY GOT A TRIP :3
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>>144278121
Sure. Although i might be spending a lot of my time in ranked for the next couple of weeks
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>>144278302

CAT.
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>>144278294
>DD chases carrier because "I can't hunt DDs and BB/CA will kill me"
>DD accomplishes nothing while teammates die to enemy destroyers lurking around corners
>said DD chasing the carrier dies because he's blue lining near enemy's spawn point because of no map awareness
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>>144279159

Want something even worse?
>He proceeds to have a better score doing almost nothing
>DDs get such a high exp/credit multiplier that they can do barely anything and beat most people in score.
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>>144279385
You know whats worse? A CV that can only shoot down 4 planes and only beats a dd that died first.
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guess the server
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>>144281586
Well it's not Arabic so EU is out.
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>>144281586
The Eastern Oriental
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>>144282537
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Offering rank 10>1 services. Low price of 12500 dubloons or 10k if you have a hiryu.

t. Not Wave :^)
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Is there a reason to play US CV's?
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>>144286068
Fighter bullying japs. That's about it.
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>>144286068
Midway.
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>>144272707
waiting for fucking what
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>see who's on my team
Fucking lost game )))
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>>144290075
There's a guy called ADM_mongoose on NA and he's pree shit too ;_;
G G G G
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>>144290401
:^)
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>>144291087
Stop it you'll trigger Lunatic :-(
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>>144292797
Just use your armor.
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Holy fucking shit this game sucks shit especially at weekends.
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CAsual>CVnts>>>baBBies>baDDies

Prove me wrong
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>>144293221
You're wrong.
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>>144292981
I'm giving it all she's got, captain!
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>>144293450
In that case try WASD, that's a good trick.
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For snsd
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>>144293515
21 stars kek
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>>144293302
CAsuals, to work at their maximum potential need very good map/situational awareness and good use of covering and angling.
While an average baBBie who ignores most of that can still do better than an equally skilled CAsual and just needs to click at distant targets who can barely react if they're slighty competent and not involved in other fights.
A "good" click from a baBBie still deals more damage than a couple of salvos, even if you're angled, not to mention all the times you get citpenned through the stern.

Since the new AA buffs, CVnts need to work a lot to kill non-retarded players who cover each others, baDDies instead are the easiest class to play as they mostly just have to cap with their invisibility cloak and rarely fight other DDs which are the only real counter to them.
The rest of the time is spent clicking a white sector from 10 kilometers, safe and unseen and occasionally shooting their flamethrowers from white clouds.
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Anyone else not able to load port or battles with a crash after a while?
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>>144295402
>-png

this kills my bandwidth
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>>144295489
>inmates
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>>144278513
>>144278695
sorry, i forgot to remove it, i had it for quite a while, mostly for fooling around

...thought i could stop that post but apparently it was too late
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>>144295489
nobody cares about your shit internet
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Turret destruction and detonation needs to be removed.
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>>144294789
I'm a CAsual myself and I find it the easiest class to play. Weave between islands and/or team mates, using them as shields, shoot distracted enemies, constantly set BBs alight, and GTFO when the situation becomes too hot. If you play a CA right, BBs, DD,s and CVs can't do anything to you. The only reason people think CAs are "hard" is because idiots expose their sides in the Pensa/Aoba/Whatever and proceed to get penetrated mercilessly, which lowers the average damage statistic for that ship.
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>>144295489
>living in the third world
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>>144295402
Weird, now it's working. Why would everything fail to load 2 times in a row but just WERK afterwords?
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>>144296583
IT is faith, that's why all these virgin nerds who werk with computers are wizards.
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>>144296009
Bullshit, i bet you're a baBBie in disguise
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>>144297025
:^)
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>>144297289
How do you fucks have so much free time?
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>>144297409
I'm a full time student at university
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>>144297848
I guess I should have worded it differently. How do you fucks play this game so often and not die?
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>http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/battle-midway/
KITAAAA
MUST DESTROY BAKA GAIJIN SHIPS FOR GRORIOUS NIPPON IN LE RANKED
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>>144298201
Eat your three meals and get sufficient sleep
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>>144298201
I took a break after the Fujin event and only started playing again a week ago. I'm currently doing summer classes so I need something to fill in my spare time. I'm also learning a programming language and a musical instrument, so idk.
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>>144298201
No pain no gain
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>x3 dailies and free XP discount because of midway
neat
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When will they let us customize port per faction? Seeing ugly Jap ships in my beautiful New York disgusts me.
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When will they let us customize port per faction? Seeing ugly Burger ships in my beautiful Nagasaki disgusts me.
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Brest/Kiel port when?!
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>>144299587
seeing 3dpd ships on my beautyfull animu port is disgusting too
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>>144298380
what?
I'm seeing +50% which is a jew way of saying x1,5
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>>144301410
best server only apparently
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>tfw getting Dreadnought twice in a row on a cruiser
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>50% Credit Discount for American and Japanese Ships Tiers II-V
Guess now's as good a time as any to start on USN BBs.
>20% In-Game Doubloon Discount for Atlanta (Tier VII)
lel chain
>Custom, unique Battle of Jutland Flag (Available in this bundle only)
All for 50 dollarydoos! WG pls
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>German Quest never
>German Event never
>German boat discount never
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god bless kiełbasa
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>>144304524
There was a discount just 2 weeks ago.
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>>144304524
I just got the Yorck on sale like a week ago
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>>144305032
>Not ranked
Pointless.
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>>144305687
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>>144305853
Then why even bother playing?
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>>144306142
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>>144306426
Worthless.
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>first game in stock SC
Ah, low tiers - where everyone sails in straight lines, can't aim, and makes poor ammo choices.
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Also,
>x100
We did it, /wowsg/!
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>>144307129
>>144306937

>Seal clubbing
Shame on you Jake.
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>>144307418
It's not seal-clubbing if I'm intending to go up the line.

SC is hardly your prototypical clubber.
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>>144307502
You're supposed to free-XP up to at least T8 Jake. Otherwise it's seal clubbing and statpadding.

I thought you were better than this.
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>>144307594
>free XP to skip entire ships
pls
I'm not a faggot.
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NAME ONE GOOD THING ABOUT FOG CLAN

THEY LITERALLY TRY TO HELP EACH OTHER WIN
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>>144307502
SC is the best T3 BB.
>>144307594
This.
>>144307671
Yes you are. You're abusing new players with the excuse of "just doing a new line".
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>>144307129
>no t5 IJN CV for maximum statpadding
>no CVs at all
truly you are the greatest faggot of us all...
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>>144307129
>All those sub-T10 ships
Truly the worst of the worst. Fuckin sealcubbers.
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>It's statpadding and sealclubbing if you dont free XP to tier X.
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>>144307981
>implying playing T10 isn't statpadding
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What ISN'T statpadding?
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>>144308034
>implying sitting in port looking at your ships isn't statpadding
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>>144308094
Playing on SEA.
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>>144308129
>playing with pinoys and Australian spiders
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>>144308129
This.
SEA is truly the greatest; a server for patricians, for the connoisseurs of skill in the naval world.
There is not a server that comes as close to the pinnacle of gameplay perfection then SEA, not even the mighty CN_ server.
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What benefit do German or Russian cruisers have over others?
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>>144308214
more like tryhard chinks and japs
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>>144308389
>CN
benissquare plzs
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>>144286224
I'm saving that one. Is Bretty Gud in its point.
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>>144309007
Well the Germans have slightly better AP and better hydroacoustic search, while the Russians are better at everything except they have BB tier concealment values.
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>>144309837
>and better hydroacoustic
Only Nurnberg had slightly longer range hydro
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>>144309946
Well it's about all they can hope for from WG.
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>>144309946
is of also unnotice bug tovsrisch))))))
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>tfw you get your first Witherer
not even WASD could save them
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>AS Hiryu with 15-point captain
Wasted potential.
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>Play CV in SEA
>Impossible to hit DDs
>Play CV in NA
>Every DD is a free kill
wew lad
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This is very tempting.
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>>144311680
Dont hestiate goy)))))
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>the enemy CV is good and yours might as well be afk
I fucking wish that class was as dead as people keep complaining it was
nevermind that I shot down like 30 of his planes, he can still do like 80k damage to me with just an unending stream of strike aircraft after devastating striking 2 of our players within the first few minutes
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>>144311043
>secret chinese p2p WASD hax
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>take Sampson torp right on the bows
>Detonation
Why.
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Oh boy oh wow
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>>144312183
>I fucking wish that class was as dead as people keep complaining it was
These recent nerfs only served as a filter that separates scrubs from true CV players.
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>>144312849
So now it's winrate gone up. Prepare for next nerfs :^)
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>>144308094
Yolo queue
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>>144308094
Playing solo.
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>>144313663
>>144313736
>not statpadding in soloq
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>>144313736
>playing USN BBs solo
FTFY
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>I'm alone vs Indianapolis, Haguro and Kongo
>Manage to kill both CA and put 4 torps on Kongo
>Get complimented 3 times
:^)
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>>144314768
>Not playing ranked
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>>144314962
>Being so dumb you can't comprehend anything
Shiggy Diggy
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>>144287007
WG to fix it? What else?
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>>144315186
What am I not comprehending? You're bragging about seaclubbing in random battles. There's nothing to be proud about that.

Want to brag? Go play ranked and prove yourself to be skilled enough to win against other skilled players.
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>>144315624
>What am I not comprehending?
>Want to brag? Go play ranked and prove yourself to be skilled enough to win against other skilled players.
A great show of intellect.
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>>144314962
>Ranked Battles are currently unavailable
and anyway
>playing ranked
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>>144315624
>keep telling people to play ranked
>ranked is flat out unplayable right now
I'd say there's something pretty major here that you aren't comprehending
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>>144315996
Nice replying with non arguments. You're truly making yourself to be quite the intellectual!
>>144316020
Ranked is already available in the relevant servers. Why aren't you playing in the relevant server? There are no excuses.
>playing randoms
Are you scared of no longer being able to abuse the brainless pubbies? Can't handle playing against actual good players?
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>>144315624
Let me spell out for you then dumbass. Ranked battles are not available yet on SEA.
Also
>play ranked and prove yourself to be skilled enough to win against other skilled players
>against other skilled players
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>>144316304
But I am on the relevant server. What I'm not doing is giving WG a bunch of extra dosh to regrind ships I already have on a server filled with shitters and worse ping.
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Fusos and New Mexicos pls
>first game I spawn into has 3 Warspites
wat
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>>144316304
>ranked
>good players
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>>144316304
Not so relevant when their players can't comprehend anything.
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>>144316323
>This is what subhumans actually believe.
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>lost first 2 ranked games
Nothing has changed.
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>>144316870
Apply yourself.
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>top highest base exp in the shitter team isn't given a star

russians embracing their downs mentality as usual
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>>144317162
Just be thankful you no longer lose the star
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BONGOU DESSSSSSS
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>>144317653
But raptor, it took you more than 100 battles to hit rank 1.
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>>144317653
>Ted Cruz Memes
Nice shitpost senpai
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>>144317653
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>>144317901
Hit the wrong meme on muh phone.
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>>144317653
That was a quick removal. What happened?
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>tfw you just want it to end
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>>144317996
A nice length of rope is pretty cheap.
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>>144317954
What meme were you going to post then?
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>>144318125
The disgusted British admiral maymay.
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So what can I expect?
It's going to be complete garbage isn't it?
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>>144318245
It is___.

Brace yourself. You have no one to blame but you for believing the german cruiser meme.
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>>144317787
check his ranked stats
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>>144318456
I never believed in them.
I just like the look of their botes more than any of the other nations.
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>>144318216
>disgust
Looks more like him after a normal day in battle with the Royal Navy.
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>>144318567
Pretty much, the RN is a fucking meme.
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>"Between the armor layout, the turret traverse, the accuracy, and the agility there is really no reason to try and get close to stuff in the Yamato. It is a big slow (not really speed but agility I guess...) highly accurate anti material sniper rifle and taking it into close range is giving away all its advantages. "
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>>144318832
sounds like someone who hates fun desu
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>>144318245
>complete garbage
No, you actually have enough range, good AP, backup torps and good sonar if you have vigilance.

Hipper works best in a div with a BB (Amagi or Tirpitz, NC is often forced to use 1/4 meta bullshit) and a US cruiser like NO.
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>>144319209
Indeed. As expected from a forum baBBy.
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>>144318832
>posted from my baBBieship as I surf the blue line
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>>144319264
>enough range
The other 3 T8 cruisers have plenty already. Any extra range is just a cushion bad players who can't in evasive maneuvers and proper positioning need to not get sunk as often as they do.
>good AP
Made pointless with simple angling. Which is something every good player does.
>backup torps
With suicidal range. Useful only when you're already dead, which means you got into a bad position. IJN torps are better because you can use them to cover your retreat.
>good sonar
The only good thing about the german line.

>works best in a div
codephrase for "it's an awful ship and you need others to carry up your ample weaknesses".

Sorry, but it's just awful.
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>>144319264
>Hipper works best in a div
fug
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>mfw F22xRedditor will get carried to rank 1 and he'll brag about it
>there is nothing you can do about it other than acknowledge he's superior to you
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>>144319938
but what if I get there before him?
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>>144319808
Yes, and?

I never said anything different.

I said that it works if you play to its strenghts, and listed them.

Yes, the other t8 cruisers are better. By that logic, you should never play anything that's not an Atago or MK.
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Why don't my team's destroyers ever cap and stay cap?
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>Waited most of semester for a new ranked season to begin after deciding to not bother with the last one because barely any experience in Tier 8
>Literally weeks after I go home to my shit rural Internets, new season with a max of tier 7

Well this sucks.. At least I never had a shot of getting the free Atlanta anyway.
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>>144320780
Because they're too busy dying in the first 3 minutes
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>>144319938
Or maybe we remember the superior plane and laugh at xX420FAGtorXx because he got permabanned and is moping about it with his redditor friends in their cucksehd
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>>144315458
What the fuck should lead me to believe they will?

WG shill kill yourself.
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>>144318832
>baBBies

This guy probably whines about the Kuma beating his New Mexico because he can't aim for shit.
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>>144318832
>>144321212
>This guy probably whines about the Kuma beating his New Mexico because he can't aim for shit.

I was originally just going to one of those babbies fear the kuma images

but, then I looked at the date those images were made and after a little digging found that the original thread was made on june 2nd 2015, a year and one day ago

so instead, have a history lesson, free of charge

http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/30952-1v1-matchups-new-mexico-vs-kuma/#topmost
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So how is the Indianapolis?
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>>144318832
He's kinda right but for the wrong reasons.

Bringing such a fuckhuge target in close really only ends in this in the current T10 meta. Yamato is too fucking fat and slow to do anything other than reverse, sit still, or go full speed ahead. It can't turn away because it just risks getting totally reamed by a BB. It cant actually go full speed ahead into the enemy team because no only will it be burned down, it will get torped hard.

So it has to make use of its fucklong range. It has to keep its distance because its too fucking big and slow to evade or turn away and leave when shit hits the fan.

Also, in general that whole fucking tier is bullshit. The fact everything in the tier has insanely long gun ranges compared to previous tiers just fucks the whole gameplay experience in the ass. I think getting rid of the range mod for cruisers and nerfing the fuck out of hotel's range to like Amagi levels would be awesome and make the tier fun like previous tiers.
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>>144321749
It's what Pensacola should have been balanced like, and Pensacola has a great main battery.
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>>144322183
Is the armour just as shit?
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>>144322316
Well yeah, but only total turboshitters would let that get in the way.
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>>144322468
Dunno. If I'm going to spend $30 on a ship I'd rather get one I'd enjoy.
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>>144321931
>nerfing the fuck out of hotel's range to like Amagi levels
>giving it worse range than the T5 BB in the same line
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>>144322639
Shameful
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>>144321091
You seem upset anon
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>>144321931
Instead of nerfing the tomato's range, they should offer smaller maps to TX players.
Like estuary

The island would make it difficult to shoot across the map, forcing closer engagements
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>>144318548
That's all you need anon.
Make the Fuhrer proud.
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>>144322687
Yeah? And what's the fucking problem with that? Amagi does fucking excellent with that range.
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>>144322915
That would make the lives of cruisers more miserable. Yamato shells are faster than in previous tiers to compensate for the extra range. So evading them at mid range is much more difficult, if not impossible, as a cruiser.

Just nerf BB ranges to a max of 21km, remove range upgrade on cruisers and DD's. Make Yamato's shells as fast as the previous tiers. Might have to tone down Des moines a little bit now that the engagements at which she's the most comfy happen more often. Maybe reduce Zao fire chance a little to.

Just make it T8 with more damage and HP. It should make the tier fun again.
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>>144322915
That wouldn't fix the underlying problem, that would just make for a shitty experience.

Hotspot works fine for T8 and it's a large and dynamic map. It works fine because cruisers dont all have 18km+ range flamethrowers and hotels Amagi dont have 26km range death star guns. Forcing big guns with lots of range onto a small map will just make the whole experience a massive fuck you to anything large and slow.
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>>144322986
I mean, I'm totally fine with the idea of nerfing all the ranges to the similar ranges that the T8s get, but there's something about giving the Yamato worse range than a ship that predates WWI which is kind of fucked up.
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>>144323773
actually, just remove the range upgrade outright. It's not necessary at T8, it will not be necessary at T9-10 if everything is keeping their T8 ranges.
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>>144323773
Yamato's shells are slow though, they just seem fast because they have a railgun-tier arc.
You want fast?
Try Moskva's 980m/s or Zao's 920m/s HE compared to Yamato's 800m/s
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>>144322915
>put them all on smaller maps
>BBs get even more horribly fucked by flamethrowers and torps
>CAs get even more horribly fucked by BB citpens
>DDs get even more horribly fucked with their shitty detection ranges and machinegun cruisers and CV squadrons flooding the map
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>>144323898
21 km should be more than enough. I don't have any numbers on Yamato's pagoda height, but I doubt it's any taller than Fuso's. If anything, keep her tight spread since her rangefinder is much more wide than any other BB.

If it were up to me, I'd also reduce her shell damage to be only slightly better than 16 inchers, but give her faster turret rotation as compensation.
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>>144323979
Well, I mean fast when compared against other BB's.

But now that you mention it, cruisers would need a shell speed nerf. Faster than T8, but less than it is currently.
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>>144324110
>BBs spend less time in CA's flame thrower range to be able to nuke them
>CAs get more islands to duck behind
>Makes it so DDs have to spend time detected in order to let off torps instead of just invisa firing the entire match

Sounds pretty fun, desu
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>>144324110
>everyone gets equally more fucked
>things actually happen at a reasonable pace now

What's the problem?
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>>144321212
Post more kuma plz
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>die 3 minutes in
>team manages to win
>still in the top half of the team in xp
???????????
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>>144324676
>be DD
>cap two bases by myself
>die five minutes in
>still be top XP
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>>144324613
It's just exacerbating the worst things about the tier.
BBs will never not be on fire in 4 places and CAs will just get 100-0 deleted more often
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>>144324642
No
BBs = best waifus
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>top tier NC
>end in a DD heaven map
>spawn in the middle nobody's land where if I try to go on point A or C I'll get focused by the whole enemy team, since before I reach 3/4 speed there's already a DD capping B
>well time to camp behind the little island before B and snipe a bit until my team either dies or manages to regroup in the middle
>after a while a fucktard starts whining in the chat that I'm doing nothing
>I tell him I can't go out just like that without support since there's too many ships grouped and I'll get focused, not even counting the DD I can't even see that is haunting the B point; if at least a cruiser comes in support I'll push
>"hurrdurr you're a BB you have to take damage and die for your team hurpadurpdurrdurr"
>ignore him
>suddenly dinner's ready
>"Fine, let's push B alone"

>In the two following two minutes I managed to land a devastating strike on a cruiser, dodge two torp walls, and dealt another four citpens, totaling 100k damage.
>In the same time my team not only didn't care to help me, but also managed to lose both points A and C while at least one third of the team was engaging me.
>I got spammed hard and died in a fire as expected
>With that short action I still managed to be MVP of my team.

A BB's role is being the meatshield for uncaring "teammates" goy! Push forward and die! :^)
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