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DR3 anime to be split into two parts, "Future" and "Despair"
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201603/26102228.html
Famitsu scans for upcoming DR3 anime:
http://i.imgur.com/tJ0SWA6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/aW1rhbs.jpg
Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc Steam Page:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/413410
Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair Steam Page:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/413420
New Dangan Ronpa V3 is scheduled to be released in 2016 on PSVita and PS4.
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfMqURJ3ZfE
Dangan Ronpa 3 will be a new anime scheduled for release in 2016.
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9AQjGxQGdw
DR3 Subbed PV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3imyvTO3JA
Interviews with Danganronpa Writer and Creator Kazutaka Kodaka
http://nichegamer.com/2015/03/danganronpa-interview-with-writer-and-creator-kazutaka-kodaka/
https://archive.today/4MSAe
Some new info about DR3/DRV3
http://gematsu.com/2015/12/new-danganronpa-v3-scrum-panic-debates
DR3 Profiles
http://jinjojess.tumblr.com/post/143495291903/mirai-hen-character-profiles
http://jinjojess.tumblr.com/post/143594993403/zetsubou-hen-introduction-and-character-profiles
Killer Killer manga revealed to be Dangan Ronpa Gaiden: Killer Killer
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-05-09/killer-killer-manga-is-revealed-as-danganronpa-spinoff-in-3rd-chapter/.101865
>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/MUdQJedT
>Downloads/Manga/Novels/Character Charts
http://pastebin.com/fX2iAQpP
izu
Chillin'.
>>143914437
The Izuru in the left is probably the one we're going to see in the anime
>>143914731good
I wonder how long its gonna be until Hajime gets turned into Izuru in the anime?
I just want to be with her.
>>143914949
I say each character has their own episode, Twilight Syndrome is probably more and Izuru's will also be more.
Unless certain events intertwine.
The first few episodes might be normal shit too, like their backstory or whatever..
>>143914949
I'm going to assume each UD will have an episode dedicated to themselves with Hajime's probably being the bigger overarching story that somehow connects to some episodes.
Some events will intertwine. During that time, Hajime will turn into Izuru but they'll probably prep it up for the first couple of episodes or something.
Hard to tell how they'll format the episodes for this story.
>>143916025
>Some events will intertwine
Let's be intertwine brothers.
>>143916203
I like the way you think Kuzubro.
>>143915067
Looks like she has chocolate on her cheeks
It's fuckingaborable
>>143881657
Thank you so much Fuyuhiko anon. You did a pretty good job on his characterization.
>>143882353
When he gets more fired up, he uses two exclamation points or sometimes he evens CAPITALIZES EVERYTHING!! He will use them more for emphasis, LIKE SO!!!
>>143897061
Oh my. That's certainly a lot of "male bonding" going on.
>>143902673
I can't think of a single thing that redeems his character. He's utterly useless in every sense of the word.
>>143906136
Sorry mastermind anon, but you can not get us to kill so you can put a stop to this at once. Resorting to underhanded tactics and tricks and trying to intervene just goes to show how much our bonds matter and how lowly you yourself are.
>>143917447
Huh, I see, thanks, if it's okay with you, can you somehow make your own version of the text in the video?
I'd be more than happy to make changes.
>>143917786
Not him, but if I may be picky. You misspelled either Ogami or Kyouko.
Did you fall for it, /drg/?
>>143917447
>Sorry mastermind anon, but you can not get us to kill so you can put a stop to this at once. Resorting to underhanded tactics and tricks and trying to intervene just goes to show how much our bonds matter and how lowly you yourself are.
Perhaps I underestimated the bonds between the thread celebrities of this general, but it matters not. One way or another each and every one of you will give in to despair... or die trying to escape your fate, as one already has.
>>143918513
I'll fix that then, my terms got mixed up.
I guess I just don't know which to stick with.
>>143918691
Telling stories huh.
>>143918691
>Ibuki thinks about homeYour home is here ,and so are we for ou
Huh, the DR anime adaption is on GYAO! now apparently.
Will she be in the DR3 future volume
>>143920227
Who knows, she does hate the FF guys, so.
>>143919617
You're going to make me cry, anon.
>>143917786
I actually think it's fine as is so i'll leave it to you in the mean time, just make sure to make your fair judgement. If he's gets fired up, like the line in 1:36 with him wanting to get Monomi, that is when you should add exclamation points for emphasis.
>>143918691
It seems that you will not back down. Well then that just means that I will try even harder and not back down myself!!
>>143920180
What's gyao?
>>143920589
I see, thanks, I'll definitely take that into consideration.
>>143920820
GYAO! is a website part of Japanese Yahoo, where you can watch many Japanese shows and anime officially added by their respective creators, I don't know if it works outside of Japan, but I would assume so.
>>143920898
Oh yeah, one last thing I forgot to mention. Will you be using the nicknames from NISA's translation? Personal preference but I wasn't a fan of them at all, especially Taka's, and rather just keep their full names intact.
>>143920227
Maybe depending if the Hagakure novel has any relevance in Hiro's story for DR3. Though I doubt the Captives will appear besides maybe Komaru.
Though if Hiro dies.... maybe then they could do something with Kanon.
>>143921217
That's a good question, having played the Japanese version and then only playing english in the PC versions of the game. (Because they were the only versions up until I made the mod for Japanese for both games.)
I was very confused from a lot of terminology, so I think I will not include those nicknames like "Hina" or "Taka".
>>143921470
The terminology question was a big one I was hoping to ask you, and since there a currently 3 translation that ended up being popular (the Something Awful LP translation, the Project Zetsoubou PSP translation, and the official NISA one), and all of them use different things so I don't know how to compromise with this one.
I mostly prefer the SA LP, since that was the one I read first, although i'm familiar with the others as well since i've gone through all the current translations from the first two games. But i'm sure most people are only familiar with NISA's at the moment since it's the most recent one.
>>143922454
I agree with you there, for example, the SA LP seems more accurate to me, in my opinion.
>>143922715
Personally I feel a mix of the SA LP and Nisa version would be best. SA was translated by a guy who didn't natively speak Japanese or English and IIRC based it on a chinese translation(or he WAS chinese? Something like that.) So there was a lot of flaws/fuck ups in that one.(The biggest that comes to mind is referring to Chihiro's talent as 'Hacker')
>>143922957
Yeah, I know, that's very true.
I'm very fluent in Japanese, so I can mix terms,for example, I might keep a few things like "Ultimate" or "Future Foundation".
But some things I might change, like the trial feature names such as "Rebuttal Showdown" or "Logic Dive".
>>143923243
"Ultimate" is shit, Super High School Level is the better term, regardless of what Nisa/Spike Chunsoft thinks is best. Future Foundation's fine, I don't think anyone's against that one.
What would you change Rebuttal Showdown and Logic Dive to? Logic Dive seems fine to me.
>>143923410
Eh, I guess you're right.
And I didn't want to change Ultimate because I'd have to change every mention of that word.
I want to change it to SHSL though.
The trial names always bugged me personally.
I preferred the name "Climax Interface" or "MTB" in the first game, but NISA/SC changed it to Closing Argument and BTB, which made no sense to me, sorta.
But I guess I can keep the trial terms.
Honestly, it's all confusing really, sorry.
>>143922715
Yeah, I liked the SA LP in the end because of that, even if the prose wasn't the best. The PSP translation is kinda, idk how to word it, too weeb? It sometimes doesn't translate certain words for no reason, and Super Duper High School and use of memes is kinda cringewrothy. It has some nice prose most of the time.
NISA's is all over the place, any and all japanese references was taken out, the nicknames, changes in terminology were pretty weak and stale like "Ultimate" and "The Tragedy," or even some of the talent names; Affluent Progeny is a gigantic mouthful. Why is Ishimaru's Moral Compass when it was originally about keeping order in the school? Also Mondo's clue on "dude" when it was originally about keeping it a gender neutral pronoun, which is why nobody would have noticed it as easily.
It ends up coming off as really weird.
It's a tough call on what you want to change or keep from which translation.
>>143922957
Oren based it on his playthough and just translated along. I think someone help him later one behind the scenes and was able to hack the game, so he was able to use the script later. He used a different process for his SDR2 LP, as he got somebody who was fluent in English to help him along.
I do remember him mention a Chinese playthough, but that was something unrelated to his translation. I think he was just saying that there was one Chinese playthrough and talking about how LP's aren't that popular in the east and most don't go over the first case so that people could experince the game for themselves.
>>143923987
In the first game the titles aren't mentioned all that often, dunno about the second game. As for the trial names, I like 'Closing Argument' better, but I prefer MTB as well. I'm just curious what was wrong with logic dive or rebuttal showdown in particular.
>>143924267
Yes but the point stand Oren didn't know fluent japanese or english, which is kind of important when it comes to translations. When presented with a translation, I'd like to know the translator is fluent in one of the languages he's translating from or to. Speaking of Chinese though, I don't think either of the DR games got proper chinese releases, but both the PSP Japanese releases and the English Vita releases are available to them to buy, which is strange.
>>143922957
>or he WAS chinese? Something like that.
No, he was an Israeli.
>>143924504
Well, they don't call it Rebuttal Showdown in Japanese, they simply call it Cross Swords, same for Logic Dive, they call it Dive Drive, similar to what the soundtrack states, or at least the Japanese one.
It's not a big deal really.
But I understand your point.
So I gave decided that once I complete all their intros, I'll change all the terminology.
I'll also revert the UI of the second game and give back the "8-bit" feel the Japanese versions had.
If it makes it even better, I can use my PC Japanese Restoration project as reference.
>>143924504
Don't get me wrong, I do agree with you on Oren's LP having some problems with the language barrier for him and is shows in the earlier chapters. He even went back to redo some of them because they weren't up to par from his later stuff.
I also agree with preferring Closing Argument and MTB to their alternatives.
>Cross Swords
>Dive Drive
lol I think those two are too Engrish to keep, but it is your project, so it's your choice on how you want to handle the translation.
>>143920227
With her conflicted hate for FF along with hersoon to be yanderish Leon 2.0love for Hagakure, expect that crazy bitch in the anime. She will make an appearance.
I want to hate-fuck Monaca.
>>143925327
Damn, all the choices, I think I'll keep out trial terminology then for now, I'll edit terminology spoken by characters in particular, talents, title, events, you name it.
But, I'll still use my Japanese mod as reference for the 8-bit UI not present in the English versions.
>>143925546
Can you show the difference in the UI's, if you don't mind?
Oh me, oh my. Things are starting to get interesting now. I think the despair is setting in!
>>143925479
I want to love-hug Chiaki!
>>143925685
Sure thing, I can link my Japanese restoration mod if you want and send comparison screenshots.
>>143925806
Knowing my luck, I'll probably die from falling off that tree..
>>143925806
THIS IS TRULY DESPAIRING!! MY ATHLETES CHOOSE TO DIE!?
AT LEAST WE TELL STORIES.
WHY DOES MAIZONOFAG KEEP GETTING SPONSORED?! TOO MANY SAYAKKERS.
I WONDER IF I WILL USE MY EXPLOSIVES I STOLE ANYTIME SOON.
HURRY AND DEFEAT ME, MY DEAR ATHLETES, BEFORE YOU FALL ONE BY ONE!!
>>143925825
Just post the screenshots here side by side in paint so we can see the differences. It's easier that way.
So, Kuzuryuu, about what you said last thread about something you found. . .
>>143926230
Don't worry, I'll end you soon
>>143918578
I mean it is kind of bullshit. They explain one kid gets into the school through a lottery, but here we have two fucking kids who did it.
What's the point of saying you are lucky if there are multiple kids who win the lottery.
>>143926784
IT HAS BEEN A WHILE SINCE I LAST FELT THIS KILLING INTENT...
COME!! SHOW ME YOUR SPIRIT!!
>>143926296
First is the dialogue.
>>143926678
I... can't remember, yeah.
>>143926035
Only you would climb a tree in the middle of a blizzard, Insanity kun.
>>143927698
Seriously
Another game being developed?
Spoilers for upcoming games/anime?
IF sequel? Bad end?
KODAKA IS SECRETLY LURKING THIS BOARD RIGHT NOW?!?
>>143926296
Now the trial one.
>walk into my local gamestop to pre-order Zero Time Dillema
>see this
What do?
>>143927929
None of those...
Worse.
>>143928178
Wonder why she isn't fatter.
>>143927698
>>143927995
Quite different. Unfortunately I can only read 50% of what I'm reading.
I MUST TRAIN HARDER!!
>>143928178
Ask her and help her choose a game that is not a dating sim so you can get all her hope shards and earn her underwear!
>>143928178
>'Hey, good taste in DR2 characters.'
>probably end up spilling all of my spaghetti
>just finished all 3 games.
>was in despair of not knowing what to do now
>found this thread
>>143928179
Is this something porn related?
>>143928178
YOU QUESTION IF SHE IS REAL, THEN YOU PROCEED TO GIVE HER PRESENTS.
FOLLOW UP BY TAKING HER ON TRIPS. BY THE END, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO SPEND LIFE TOGETHER.
>>143928453
A NEW ATHLETE!! WELCOME TO /DRG/!!
>>143928178
Pretty sure I bought the same outfit she has. The skirt looks like the same material as mine. I want to steal that backpack to make my outfit complete
That reminds me.
What is the most WTF Danganronpa related fanart in your opinion?
I will post mine in a bit, since it's on my mobile device.
>>143928179
It's porn, isn't it?
>>143930282
Nope, even worse.
...Somehow.
>>143930387
Is it something stupid with the programming of the DR games?
>>143928178
Desire to hug is too strong. Why does someone does this, giving me hope that chiaki can actually exist in the 3d realm.
>>143930537
Getting warmer.
>>143930735
Official sprites that no one found before?
>>143930902
Wouldn't that be a good thing and not worse?
>>143930735
Is this related to the class trials?
>>143931226
shit, you're right. Trying again
major glitch?
>>143931291
Nah, it's outside of trials.
>>143931335
I believe most glitches have a reason for happening.
At least in this case, I believe it isn't one, heh.
>>143931520
LET ME GUESS:
EVENTS SUCH AS OBJECTIONS HAPPENING DURING DIALOGUE THAT WERE CUT FROM THE GAME?!
A WHOLE EXTRA LAYER OF CHARACTER CONTENT THAT NEVER SAW THE LIGHT OF DAY!!
So after that delicious display of despair earlier, I chose to let up on the environmental hazards for a bit. To see if our sacrifices haven't been persuaded to begin taking things a little more seriously. Let's take a look at what our thread celebrities have gotten up to since then, shall we?
...oh. Oh my.
>>143932171
>Bully-kun killed by Ms. Enoshima
TOO FITTING
>>143931838
Nope, I already showcased that.
Also nope to the last one, has already seen the light of day.
No use guessing, I *might* implement it in an intro vid soon, so keep an eye out for it.
>>143932171
It was a good idea for me not to get involved.
>>143932171
T.... Truly impressive... my athlete.
I LIVE TO BATTLE ONCE MORE
RIP DEAR BULLY-KUN. SAIONJI BULLIED YOU INTO OBLIVION. TRULY A SAD DAY.
>>143932171
>Bully-kun's death
mis lados
>>143932171
HOW COULD I DIE? THIS IS NOT A FITTING DEATH FOR SOMEONE AS HOPE FILLED AS ME. WHAT ABOUT MY FIGHT WITH NIDAI
>>143933314
You misread that, Bully-kun died, you almost did though.
>>143933314
WAIT I READ IT WRONG. MY HOPE IS COMING BACK. INSANITY ALWAYS SURVIVES IN THE DARKEST OF TIMES
>>143932171
>Cannibal-anon collecting hatchets
>Saionji bullying Ms. Enoshima into murdering her long-time tormentor Bully-kun
Things are getting dangerous.
>I somehow haven't died yet
Hmm.
Probably a shot in the dark, but does anyone have a picture (sketch?) of drillless Celeste in gym clothes? Memory's fuzzy since it's been years, but I remember it was passed around a whole bunch.
Hi hi, /drg/! How are you doing today?
>>143925806
>suicide pact
A-at least I didn't die first.
>>143932171
>Saionji bullying Ms. Enoshima into killing Bully-kun
It doesn't get better than this.
>>143932171
Despair is fun fun fun!
... Too bad my favourites died
>>143934230
here you go fampai
>>143934230
I have this but I doubt it's what you're talking about.
>>143934272
Komaeda-anon. I was really sad when you died. I couldn't protect Ibuki. I couldn't protect you. Why hasn't someone just killed me off yet?
>>143932934
Senpai how did you lose to a little girl? Have you grown soft from watching others
>>143934667
Don't lose spirit, Ibukianon! You need to survive and avenge my death by defeating the mastermind! Faito dayo!
>>143934556
>>143934667
Thanks, but that's not it. It was fanart and there were at least 2 poses or something of only just her. I don't think it was colored but my memory's too hazy to be sure.
Anyone want to put together a DR fan-theories ranking list?
Is the guy making that mod here?
>>143934230
Here's a drilless Celes, no gym clothes though.
>>143934975
I-I'll try my best.
>>143934980
How about this?
>>143935005
Unless one of the theories is a theory where chiaki gets uploaded into a cyborg and becomes real, it's not a good theory.
>>143934980
Found this one too. And got another coming up after this which is actually probably the one you mean.
>>143935005
The time machine is real is up there.
Also Peko being Ishimaru's sibling but their parents gave her up when since they couldn't afford to take care of her after the scandal hit.
>>143934980
I think I know which one you are talking about. Saucenao this image and look through this artist's DR images and you'll find it.
>>143934980
Here. Hopefully this is it?
>>143935686
Thats it! Thank you so much, holy shit. How did you even find this?
>>143935758
You're welcome.
And I searched Celes on pinterest. That site is the best.
>>143935431
There was one theory that some anon a couple threads back brought up. Basically, it revolves around things that happen after the events of IF. To be blunt, the fact that Makoto and friends DIDN'T lynch Mukuro when they got the chance basically means that Future Foundation is going to be on their asses faster than an army of Jimmy Johns delivery boys. Shit may or may not come tumbling down.
Best case, Makoto and friends give Kyousuke the finger and go renegade.
Worst case, Mukuro gets ganked by Kyousuke and his goons. Makoto goes nuclear and becomes the series' newest BBEG
>>143935758
Like I said in my previous post >>143935660
I know who the artist is as I saved a couple of their DR images, just not that Celes one in particular.
>>143935906
I wouldn't use pinterest, as the images aren't in the best quality or in the highest resolution. It best to get them from the source if possible.
>>143936318
You can always iqdb/SauceNao the image once you found it on Pinterest though.
>>143935906
And here I was crawling through pixiv. God damn, thanks for the tip.
>>143936318
Definitely and I would, but I'd need to find the source first.
>>143936318
Once I have the image from pinterest, I usually reverse search it to find its source. Pinterest is my favorite tool for finding the artwork in the first place, though, as I'd probably never stumble across the source otherwise.
>>143936275
What does this have to do with best girl?
>>143936846
HELLOOOOO? Ex-UD?
>>143936275
>Implying anyone could outsoldier Mukuro
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM TRY!!
ONLY SAKURA HAS EVER RIVALED HER AND ACTUALLY PROVEN CAPABLE OF WINNING ACCORDING TO IF!! I DOUBT THAT WOULD WORK AT ALL.
ALSO, MUKURO SAVING EVERYONE ON INTERNATIONAL BROADCAST WOULD PROVE SUFFICIENT I THINK!!
>>143937019
This still means nothing to me.
>>143937153
We are talking about an organization founded by HPA members, full to the brim with ex-HPA. Having a few SHSL Soldier alumni would not be unexpected.
Also you HEAVILY underestimate Kyousuke's rage and hatred. His entire philosophy on UD is, to quote Lloyd Ahlquist's Joseph Stalin: "I'll leave your neck in a noose in a trench and shot! Your whole family, shot! All your wizard friends, shot! Anyone who sold you pierogi, shot!"
>>143937972
WHERE CAN I READ INTO ALL OF THIS SHENANIGANS ABOUT HIM? I FEEL LIKE I'M MISSING INFORMATION.
ALSO IF THAT'S SO TRUE, WHY WAS NAEGI ABLE TO HIDE 16 OF THEM?!
>>143937972
He's my hero
>>143938123
But, chiaki wasn't an ex-UD.
This is why I'm lost, is there some connection I'm missing, I never bothered to read the IF bullshit.
Would anyone be up for a few games of mafia? The earlier attempt to get a group going didn't pan out so well.
>>143939051
!!!
>>143938153
SDR2's ending establishes that the FF's top brass was trigger happy as fuck and were willing to kill anyone they saw as a threat. That's why Naegi went renegade in the first place. DR3's character sheets establishes that Kyousuke, leader of Unit 02, is secretly pulling all the strings behind FF shogun-style. He's the one who ordered the hits on all the ex-UDs in the first place.
>ALSO IF THAT'S SO TRUE, WHY WAS NAEGI ABLE TO HIDE 16 OF THEM?!
He was apparently able to convince other members of FF to give the brass the finger. Including Togami and his squad (which may or may not specialize in Special Operations)
>>143938473
Danganronpa IF is a text VN spinoff double-packaged with all SDR2 carts. It's an alternate-timeline branch of DR1 where Sayaka and Mukuro's deaths are averted. Results in a chain reaction of events that end in all 16 students surviving the Killing Game.
Mukuro was a UD higher-up.
Do the math
>>143939208
Always!
>>143939051
I'll play.
>>143932171
For fucks sake, someone kill someone aready.
I wanna see CxT versus Cannibal anon dammit.
Well it seems that it is once again too late to hunt, and so the sacrifices have begun setting up camp for the night. The last few activities of the day are uneventful compared to a few of the earlier ones, but today has yielded some decent results. I hope even more blood is spilled tomorrow, and preferably at the hands of one another.
And the results for day two of the /drg/ killing game.
>>143940464
Oh my when did this happen?
>I'm already dead
Oh never mind then
I died in a pretty fitting way ironically, I guess that's pretty funny
https://epicmafia.com/game/5139405
Is this the lobby?
>>143940786
That's an old game
https://epicmafia.com/game/5140710
/drg/ plays Misuterii High when? This ghost town could use some reviving.
>>143941002
I think we're good with just mafia for now, gathering more than 4 people is already hard enough.
>>143942585
This game can be played with just 3 people, but yeah you have a point.
>>143936275
>Best case, Makoto and friends give Kyousuke the finger and go renegade.
Then Kyosuke would have them all killed.
>>143939549
>He was apparently able to convince other members of FF to give the brass the finger. Including Togami and his squad (which may or may not specialize in Special Operations)
Togami is apparently in the same division as him.
>>143942749
>KYOUSUKE KILLS THE HOPEFULS
WHAT A TERRIBLE LEADER!! HE SUCKS!! I REJECT HIS SPIRIT!!
>>143939549
>SDR2's ending establishes that the FF's top brass was trigger happy as fuck and were willing to kill anyone they saw as a threat. That's why Naegi went renegade in the first place
They had enough reason to want to have those guys killed though. Naegi honestly looked bad for wanting to protect them.
Though Kenzan himself doesn't want to kill them but regrets having to do so despite finding them. He knows they all used to be Hope's Peak students.
>>143943010
Not if they're supporting criminals who helped despair take over. Then his actions towards them wouldn't be seen as bad.
They would be seen as..... "eliminating the traitors."
Wait so why is Naegi in cuffs?
>>143943489
Naegi still is the ultimate hope, killing him will make people see that FF is quite the corrupt place without a heroic figure to distrac from the flaws.
Munakata is going to throw everyone into despair for being a huge faggot, Monaca's plan was to get the adults to go full kill the kids mindset, if Munakata is being as extreme as this, he is probably being played.
>>143943502
Are you serious rn?
>>143943756
There is literally nothing wrong with wanting to kill terrorists, Munakata is completely right.
>>143943779
Sort of I heard he was arrested for supporting a remnant of despair? I was curious to see if it was true.
>>143943756
>Naegi still is the ultimate hope,
No he's not. Not in this IF timeline he's not.
>killing him would make people see that FF is quite the corrupt place without a heroic figure to distract from the flaws.
Um no. I doubt people would care about traitors protected an agent of despair. That's what it would be seen as moment Mukuro's name got out.
>Munakata is going to throw everyone into despair for being a huge faggot,
He really isn't. He's just being overly extreme and ruthless on eliminating agents of despair and those who protect it since you know it's despair that help destroy the world.
>Monaca's plan was to get the adults to go full kill the kids mindset, if Munakata is being as extreme as this, he is probably being played.
I don't think he's being played. Something obviously happened to him during the tragedy for him to gather so much hatred for the despair. Monaca's plan has no relevance to Kyousuke. If he found out she was also an agent of despair, he'd have her killed too.
>>143944037
Munakata = Junko
Either a despair trying too hard to be hard, or a useful idiot.
Killing Makoto will cause despair.
>>143942951
False. Togami is implied to be the commander of Unit 15. Naegi was Unit 14.
>>143944146
DR3 takes place right after DR2. So it's after Naegi tried protecting the Ultimate Despair aka the DR2 guys. FF weren't happy about it so that's why he's in cuffs. The beginning of the anime is about his trial.
>>143944452
>False. Togami is implied to be the commander of Unit 15. Naegi was Unit 14.
There is no "Unit 15" There are only 14 divisions and Togami clearly stated in the beginning of UDG that he's from division 14 like Naegi.
>>143927698
I am the great Tanaka Gandam... you'd do well to remember that. It's the name of the man who will one day control the world.
>>143944746
Gandamu
>>143944414
>Killing Makoto will cause despair.
No it will not. It would only cause despair to like 14 other traitors and his family who may or may not be dead.
Nobody else would care after finding out what he was trying to do.
Kyousuke being compared to Junko is ridiculous. He has every right to want those guys eliminated.
>>143944685
Sorry, meant Unit 13. Also, who's to say that Togami didn't get transferred and promoted?
>>143944290
I am talking about the character in DR3, Munakata is not the main character, he will not win, he can be as ruthless as he wants, the protagonists will win because that is what always happens.
The moment he tries to do something, some asspul or deus ex machina will make him lose, Makoto suddenly asspulled his ass out of trouble at the end of the first game, with suddenly hope bullets, Hajime did the same with hope stuff, and so did Komaru.
'Kata will fall flat in his face for trying to mess with plot armor.
>>143944882
How about the rest of the world? The killing game is still being seen by everyone, Makoto beaten despair on its own game, if Kyousoke tries something, asspull will ensure Makoto's victory, because thats will always happen.
>>143945010
Who's to say he got promoted and transferred in that short periods of time presumably after DRAE and the beginning of DR2?
Would then make you also wonder what happened to the original 13th head
>>143944549
I don't know Ultimate despair sounds singular? Like its referring to a specific person.
>>143941002
>join a server for this out of curiosity
>the people are name dropping 4chan boards in a attempt to sound cool
WEW LAD
>>143945042
What does plot armor and protagonist shit have to do with anything? I'm only saying what Kyousuke's doing isn't even really wrong in the first place regardless if he wins or loses. Besides it's not like Makoto entirely won with the case of the UD so that "protagonist always wins" thing can be tossed out the window.
>if Kyousoke tries something, asspull will ensure Makoto's victory, because thats will always happen.
Nope. Makoto will just lose and simply be killed off. Again, he's not invincible and everything doesn't revolve around him. It's a weak excuse on why Kyosuke wouldn't kill him. The rest of the world will be told about what Makoto was trying to do after the killing game and then they turn on him. You underestimate how bad of an effect the tragedy had on people.
>>143945851
I'm only saying what Kyousuke's doing isn't even really wrong in the first place regardless if he wins or loses.
Just War Theory, my nigga. Kyousuke is in the wrong by prioritizing violence as a first resort.
>>143946085
>Just War Theory, my nigga. Kyousuke is in the wrong by prioritizing violence as a first resort.
...You're that anon who was talking that rubbish about "don't use violence on killers until you exhausted all possible solutions" aren't you?
Kyousuke is in the right for what the SHSL Despair killed for their crimes on helping cause the apocalypse and that includes Mukuro. Naegi and co. intefere, they're seen as traitors and protectors of despair that would be punished severely.
Just like Naegi is going through in DR3.
>>143945851
You also seem to underestimate how people can be ass kisser sometimes.
Makoto, not Munakata defeated Junko, in both regular and IF, Makoto proved to be a win button, in DR2, Makoto was being streamed to the entirety of FF, yet he won again.
Any of Munakata actions towards Makoto will come off as petty, regardless of what Munakata thinks, Makoto somehow de-despairfied a third of Junko top brass and swayed them to his side, his hate is going cause a disnessecary divide, a divide i thought Togami would cause in the heel-turn scenario.
I am not taking Munakata actions or thoughts into question, since we didn see then yet, but Makoto in all scenarios is their messiah figure, going aginst Makoto will cause a huge fuckup.
>>143946464
Then Munakata will have to hold his power by being a dictator and bring despair aginst all who oppose him, becoming pretty much the very thing he wanted to destroy, he who fight monsters blah, blah, blah...
>Naegi and co will protect Mukuro from getting killed off from Future Foundation
Are we assuming that they're all going to side with Naegi on this? Do you honestly think Togami would care? Going by IF, this would be where he hasn't been humbled yet so he's still the asshole that he was before. Yes he may have cooperated with them on escaping at the end of IF but he certainly wouldn't risk his own neck for either of them especially Mukuro.
I could see him siding with Future Foundation with Toko trying to side with him as well but Future Foundation would probably push her away like they did in canon because of the Syo thing. Hagakure may or may not also join up with Future Foundation. Celeste would jump on board since she would see which group would benefit her the most. Some lost teenagers or an powerful organization.
Naegi can talk all he wants, but some of these guys wouldn't back up his decision on protecting Mukuro.
>>143946751
>Then Munakata will have to hold his power by being a dictator and bring despair aginst all who oppose him, becoming pretty much the very thing he wanted to destroy, he who fight monsters blah, blah, blah...
MY POINT EXACTLY!
This kind of shit should not be happening in an organization like FF, which claims, as its modus operandi, to be trying to restore peace, stability, and hope to the wartorn world.
Kyousuke is an absolute madman that must be stopped, not a benevolent dictator that only does what is right.
>>143946751
>Makoto, not Munakata defeated Junko, in both regular and IF, Makoto proved to be a win button, in DR2, Makoto was being streamed to the entirety of FF, yet he won again.
Which is irrelevant to the point so I have no idea why you keep bringing it up.
>Any of Munakata actions towards Makoto will come off as petty, regardless of what Munakata thinks, Makoto somehow de-despairfied a third of Junko top brass and swayed them to his side, his hate is going cause a disnessecary divide, a divide i thought Togami would cause in the heel-turn scenario.
They wouldn't come off as petty. Not for a traitor it wouldn't.
>I am not taking Munakata actions or thoughts into question, since we didn see then yet, but Makoto in all scenarios is their messiah figure, going aginst Makoto will cause a huge fuckup.
No he is not. You're overestimating how big Makoto really is.
Honestly your whole argument against Kyosuke's actions towards Makoto are "Makoto is the protagonist so he can't lose" or "he's the good guy so Kyousuke would look bad". That's what it seems like to me and I just don't think it holds up at all.
>Then Munakata will have to hold his power by being a dictator and bring despair aginst all who oppose him, becoming pretty much the very thing he wanted to destroy, he who fight monsters blah, blah, blah...
Killing monsters like SHSL Despair isn't a crime. Abusing your power and doing what you want towards the people as a whole would be the crime.
>>143947275
>Kyousuke is an absolute madman that must be stopped, not a benevolent dictator that only does what is right.
>Kyousuke is literally Liu Bei
>>143947275
>they shouldn't kill criminals who killed thousands of people
How bad are despair apologists going to get?
>>143947425
>Despair apologist
Stop the larping please, the protagonist are going to win, if they want to save or reform the UDs, they are going to do so, and Munakata is going to be the main villain.
>>143947341
You people seem to forget that this is a video game with a plot, and Kodaka, who gave us the ending where Hajime simply asspull his way out of a problem with no solution.
Its videogame logic, thats why Makoto did win, and thats why he will win again, did you forget what DR is? Its not going to end with a twist ending.
>>143946947
Yeah I could see Togami and Celeste siding with FF for their own benefits since at this point in time, they have no real reason to defend Mukuro nor risk their hides for hers. Hagakure would definitely jump on board too. Toko wouldn't defend her either but wouldn't be allowed entrance into FF unless they gave her a deal on controlling Syo and help them deal with Mukuro.
Hifumi may or may not side with FF since guy can be a coward. The others would probably stick by Mukuro I'd think.
So it's only really Togami, Celeste, Hagakure, Toko and maybe Hifumi who swap sides here.
>>143947843
When you come up with something better than "they're the protagonists so they will win" when it has nothing to do with the argument in first place, then we can continue this argument.
Because it's just going in circles.
>>143947341
This is where the whole "exhausting all other options" shtick comes in.
According to the theory of jus ad bellum (right to war), violence is only justified when all other alternatives are proven, beyond reasonable doubt, to be futile.
As SDR2 explicitly states, this wasn't the case. The Neo World Program was proven to already be functional. In fact, if not for Kamakura's intervention, Naegi's plan would have been an absolute, irrefutable success.
By this fact alone, one would be hard-pressed to actually justify Munakata's decisions.
But if you still aren't convinced, I can talk about militarization justification all damn night.
>>143947843
>he protagonist are going to win, if they want to save or reform the UDs, they are going to do so
then they're scum
>and Munakata is going to be the main villain
and then you woke up. despair apologists have weird logic.
>Everyone survives
>More than half the class would be against Makoto and Mukuro
>Makoto wouldn't be named the ultimate hope
>Might be even considered as ultimate despair for taking Mukuro's side
>FF AND His former friends hunting hin
>Junko still alive
>Ultimate despairs never get into the NWP
>Probably got executed by Kyousuke's minions
Wow, IF timeline has more despair than the original
The IF timeline is even worse that the regular timeline
>>143948492
Him * also
>Chiaki never existed or is part of the FF crew
>>143948236
>As SDR2 explicitly states, this wasn't the case. The Neo World Program was proven to already be functional. In fact, if not for Kamakura's intervention, Naegi's plan would have been an absolute, irrefutable success.
The question is what did worldwide killers and helpers of the Tragedy do to deserve this? Because Junko pushed them to despair? That's a stupid reason. They weren't asking for redemption simply going by their plans on letting themselves be captured so they can be taken into the Neo World Program and offer their bodies to Junko so she can go fuck shit up some more.
And they shouldn't have been outright killed off on Kyosuuke's orders because..... sympathy? Please.
>>143948492
Wow, when we look at it now, IF is looking like a VERY bleak timeline, even by DR standards.Damnit, is Kodaka ever gonna elaborate on this?
>>143948284
Well shit son, Kodaka has pretty much placed the protagnist thru a unsolvable problem then have then solve it anyway via a deus ex machina, like Makoto suddenly getting Hope Bullets, if Munakata opposes him, its basic Kodaka formula for a DR game so far
>Makoto gets in bad place
>Makoto has the odds stacked aginst him
>He suddenly has revelation or power up that allows him to fight back
>He wins
It happened with all three protags, they needed to be their lowest to power thru the situation, you are throwing Munakata and FF into the bin for no reason.
>>143948106
The only one who needs to wake up is you, this is a VIDEO GAME, protagonists win, bad guys loses.
You are the despair apologist, trying to make Munakata into despair, Koadka is a hack, DR follows a formula, if Munakata opposes protag, guess what happened with Junko, AI Junko and Monaka?
>>143948492
>More than half the class would be against Makoto and Mukuro
Sayaka and Kyoko would stick by Makoto. I don't see them truly going against him. Leon would then stick around too. Then you have Mondo, Ishimaru and Chihiro. Also Aoi and Sakura wouldn't turn on them I think though Sakura was acting as the mole for Monokuma because he had her dojo hostage so unless FF had something like that in their possession, I can't see her betraying her friends.
However others like Togami and Celeste certainly wouldn't give a shit about what happens to Mukuro or even Makoto for that case.
But yeah the IF timeline would have been filled with more despair had Mukuro and the other dead students lived. Makoto and most of the others wouldn't join FF since they want to outright kill Mukuro and Makoto's other friends turn against him and side with FF.
UD would definitely not be saved in this timeline either without Makoto being around in FF nor having the backup. So Kyosuke would find them and exterminate them.
Wait a minute what happens to Naegi sister in the IF timeline?
>>143949373
All the Another Episode captives were probably there not only as black mail, but probably in case the killing game failed, the DR1 kids would still have to go somewhere and go through another Despair game to save their loved ones.
>>143948492
>Junko still alive
I think this is the scary part of the IF timing going forward.
Not only will Makoto only have like half of his friends siding with him and Mukuro, but he'd have to fight off against people like Togami, FF, UD AND Junko in the flesh.
IF is more of a bad ending than the actual bad ending in the game.
Thank God its not canon and Mukuro is dead like she should be.
MAFIA IS FUN
>>143949373
They'd probably still be locked up inside Towa I think?
Though with Junko alive in the IF timeline, there's no telling what she'd do with them now. She could let them go or maybe because the DR1 kids got and didn't have the killing game, Junko instead decides to go through with her backup plan had the kids never killed each other and have the captives taken into the school and forced to kill each other and have it broadcasted to the DR1 kids as they watch their loved ones slaughter each other inside the very school they ran away from.
>>143949802
You mean there's a mafia game going on right now ?
Because if so i want it.
>>143949634
DR: CIVIL WAR
>>143949953
Wouldn't Mukuro know where their located?
>>143949802
Random roles are fun when there's a lot of people.
>>143949634
>dealing with Togami, Kyousuke, Future Foundation, Alive Junko and Ultimate Despair.
Being IF Makoto is suffering.
Mukuro causes nothing but pain and ruination.
>>143950513
>Wouldn't Mukuro know where their located?
Would she? Are we assuming Junko told her everything?
>>143948669
You don't listen, do you? I've already established that the UD could be detained and pacified without just putting them up to a firing squad. How can ignoring it entirely be justified?
Criminals and terrorists in real life are not treated like that. In real life, the death penalty is generally preserved for when the criminal has basically no reasonable chance of being reformed (and even then, many are just locked up for life, not to mention most first-world counties today have essentially ABOLISHED death penalty)
What kind of person would put execution as the #1 priority?
>>143950787
The Nazis and Joestars.
>>143950787
>You don't listen, do you?
I do. It's just what you're saying makes zero sense.
>What kind of person would put execution as the #1 priority?
Those who want to get rid of the Hitler of their world?
>>143950949
AND KENSHIRO!
>>143950054
YES GET IN HEREhttps://epicmafia.com/game/5141039
The heck is going on?
>>143950787
>I've already established that the UD could be detained and pacified without just putting them up to a firing squad
Same anon but same UD were planning on doing even more fucked up shit by letting Junko take their bodies to kill even more people. They only went with Makoto because of their plan.
What's your excuse for that or are you going to keep fishing for excuses on not wanting them six feet under?
The Neo World Program is a lame excuse.
>>143951060
Sure, go ahead. Ignore the entire point of not becoming a monster yourself.
See what lengths you kyousukefags go to justify more killing?
Now I'm going the fuck to sleep. It's 1 AM here. See you assholes tomorrow.
>>143951117
Oh god, my internet is fucking dying over here.
I dont think i will be able to stay.
>>143951437
K night. Maybe after a good night of sleep, you'll come up with an argument that doesn't reek of complete desperation and nonsense.
But despair apologists need anything they can get on keeping their murderers safe.
>>143951892
We have plot armor, you have pedos.
Seems like a unfair fight at our favour.
>>143952017
>We have plot armor, you have killers.
Yeah we do. So we'll win. Justice against the evil killers
>>143952159
Killers kill, victims die.
Whatcha gonna do when Genocider, Mukuro and Sakura comes at you at once?
You just simply bend over for the hope train, we are going to fuck that authorianism outta you.
>>143952329
But we have plot armor so you and your despair killers will lose.
>Whatcha gonna do when Genocider, Mukuro and Sakura comes at you at once?
Use my plot armor powers
>You just simply bend over for the hope train, we are going to fuck that authorianism outta you.
But I have plot armor powers though hope energy so you despair scum will lose again and again. Just ask Junko.
I hated Mikan more than Hiyoko by the end of Chapter 3. Is that normal?
Why the hell did Makoto try to stop Junko if she's the reason his waifu is dead?
>>143950721
Eh maybe? No real way of know for sure.
>>143952690
She had huge tits.
>>143952583
I am the main protagonist, not you.
I have the plot armor and you dont, Kodaka loves the Naegi dick more, perhaps he never gave Naegi a proper waifu its because he loves Naegi more.
You despairfags are the funniest, thinking you are hope, Naegi is the savior of the world, you guys are just amateurs.
>>143952643
Yes. Mikan is trash.
>>143952690
Because he knew that his waifu would never come back so he needed a replacement to balance out Kyoko.
>>143952583
>>143952876
>hopefags and despairfags fighting over who's right and wrong
>not wanting utopia
>>143952643
>hating mikan
If any of them got their memories back, they would've been as batshit insane as her.
>>143953389
doesn't make her less trash though
>>143954073
It makes her as equal as Ibuki.
>>143953173
AT THIS POINT I'VE COME TO PREFER UTOPIA AS WELL.
>>143953173
>Hope,despair and Utopia
Actually, i am CxT anon, i am just pretending to be a despairfag apologist for the sake of keeping the thread alive.
I once spoke that Hope and despair are the same thing in the past, in a bad attempt of impersionating utopia anon, but i didn had any of his images.
I am revealing now because i am actually running out of banter.
>>143953173
I'd prefer utopia too. Hope and despair are lame.
which dangans have never been seen crying in any official DR material
>>143956029
CELES?
SAKURA?
CHIAKI?
>>143956029
From the DR1 cast, I don't think I've seen Naegi, Togami, Celeste or Sakura cry before. Naegi almost did but never actually cried. I think Kirigiri and Mukuro cried in DR0???? I know Mukuro did but I'm still hazy on Kirigiri.
From DR2 Hajime, Chiaki, Komaeda, Twogami and Gundham never cried.
So that's about 9 dangans who aren't crybabies.
>>143956136
>>143956371
>no junko
triggered
>>143956626
They're dead, right?
I mean, I can see the parents fighting off some dudes for a little while, but there's no way they survived. And the little sister is dead for sure. She's just a normal girl, she can't do anything.
>>143957780
Komaru, the sister, is alive in Another Episode though.
>>143957780
>the little sister is dead for sure
Should we tell him?
>>143957780
They might still be alive. You never know
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-05-31/megumi-ogata-listed-on-danganronpa-3-anime-despair-arc-ending-theme-song/.102681
>>143957780
Hopefully they do something with the family, could make for a nice plot in a new game.
>>143958159
Good news!!
>>143948492
yeah but I mean, everybody would still be alive. In either timeline we're assuming Makoto turns on the FF to save some UDs anyway. The only real major fuck up the IF timeline does is Junko is still alive, which means the Ultimate Despair is probably still super powerful and FF isn't really a "world ender". Maybe everyone would unite against Junko and leave the remnant of despair issues until after the war is effectively won
>>143960337
>Makoto hijacks the UDs into UHopes.
That would amusing, Ultimate Hopes versus FF
bum-bum-bump!
Greetings fellow people.
>>143964475
Greetings, Kuzu-chan!
>>143957860
It's just memory-loss zombie Junko though.
>>143960337
Thank God IF isn't canon. This seems like a cheesy idea
>>143963653
>Animator
Mitarai is seriously way too suspicious.
>>143966604
Of course.
I'm also wondering why most of the 77 class joined despair but some didn't too.
Like Mitarai, Matsuda, Kamishiro etc.
>>143966604
Because Despair Volume Mitarai is the real one and Future Volume one is the real imposter
It's so obvious.
>>143966728
>Like Mitarai, Matsuda, Kamishiro etc.
Matsuda and Kamishiro died by the time things really got out of control and mostly Junko had no use for them.
Mitarai did fall to despair with his classmates. He was in DR2.
>>143966871
True, if we were to assume the Mitarai in Despair Volume is the real one, I guess.
And you're right, the others did die before then.
Damn, looks like I'll be making my own Dangan Island intro video.
>>143966992
Well I mean yeah since you can't have two Ryoutas attending in the same class at the same exact time and name. Only makes sense for there to only have ever been one Ryouta at Hope's Peak. People would naturally think the Ryouta imposter is Twogami simply because he impersonated Togami in DR2/at the beginning of his first year at Hope's Peak. I don't remember if it was his FTE or some supplementary material, but it's said he would eventually show his true face and identity to his classmates at some point attending Hope's Peak his first year.
So that has us wondering who our "Ryouta" in the Future Volume is about. Who is he? Why is he impersonating Ryouta? How did he sneak into FF?
Could explain the disappearance of the 13th division head who wasn't able to make it for some reason so they had Hina take their place. People think it's Togami yet forget he stated he's from 14h division.
Could explain the reason for DR3 Gaiden and why we're seeing the supposed corpse of Makoto. Could this along with the manga explain what could have happened with the 13th division head and why they're the only ones who couldn't attend the hearing that got "conveniently" hijacked by Monokuma?
There's clearly a connection between all these questions!
>>143968010
But what about the scouting thing, wasn't he supposedly scouted to join FF?
>>143968269
Was he?
Makoto and friends were supposedly just entering Hope's Peak for the first time in DR1 as the description of the game said.
Turns out not to be the truth as they've been in that school for two whole years and already knew each other.
>>143968948
True, still, if he wasn't scouted, then what's Kizakura's deal, since he apparently scouted most of the members.
>>143969092
I'm assuming it's going to have something to do with memories yet again. Something about them getting knocked out by Monokuma's gas and being forcibly given the bracelets because I doubt they're just going to want to put on bracelets by their own will. Think of it like Zero Escape.
During that time they were knocked out, they could have had added in fake memories of Ryouta being a member of FF.
Or another theory is the real Ryouta cast off his identity once again after becoming an Ultimate Despair and just returned to being the Imposter again meaning their records and identity was erased. Then Kizuura could have picked up a person he was assuming was Ryouta. Could be part of a two fold plan to get the goods on FF from the inside. Having an agent of despair in their midst the whole time.
>>143953041
Moo
>>143969661
Hmm, I see what you mean.
I guess we'll see, although what you said is very plausible.
>>143969967
No... cows.
I need transparency tutorials
>>143970640
Magic Wand, Feather, Outline and Alpha Channels are your friends.
>>143970640
Don't blur the edges, it just looks bad.
If your computer can't handle Photoshop, you can get an OK result in something like LunaPic. Komaeda's hair tends to get removed because of how white it is, but you can always paste it back on.
I cannot unsee the rehash in fan things these days.
>>143970946
Alpha channel never gets the white hair right
>>143971845
Wish you could suggest me something for tablets
But thanks both of you
>>143972140
True, which is why I mentioned all the other things I said.
I tried making the official art for some DR2 students transparent for example, like Kuzuryuu earlier and this one.
>>143972329
Looks good, alpha magic?
>>143972140
If you have a tablet, you can always touch up the edges in PaintTool Sai by hand. It's tiresome though.
>>143972443
Nope, just Magic Wand, Feather and then black outlining.
All done with simple Paint.NET.
