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Tree of Savior General - /tosg/


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Previously on /tosg/ : >>143843467

Cookie cutter builds:
>Consult thread before using
http://pastebin.com/zfAghE2H

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding.

>Can I play the game now?
If you haven't downloaded the game yet, Win+R then paste: steam://install/372000. Run and download the game.

>English patch for kTOS
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-ktest-thread/124575/645

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vakarine (Upside down "A" in gookspeak)
- iTOS: Klaipedia (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info
All guilds are full, Either wait for guilds to kick inactives/Wait for someone to roll a templar/roll a templar yourself. You can try to whisper the guild leader if you want to join a guild.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
FOE (Jinsae)
Clover (Karga)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Cabyba)
NiceBoat (Tello)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
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I LOVE TALT!
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That thing I want NEEDS to drop.
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>>143879987
>>Klaipeda
>Futureproof (Lolipan)
>FOE (Jinsae)
>Clover (Karga)


what happened to cute, cutenotlewd and empire?
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>Sneak inside my crush's lodge
>There are boys inside
>Immediately leave
>Log off
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Stats for elementalist?
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>>143880253
cute is under construction because hiraku quit
Cutenotlewd asked specifically to not be included in the OP
Haven't seen Empire in the thread for awhile.
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>>143880253
Mass suicide spree.
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>>143880341
full int some con
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Tfw I'm level 160 and still doing the 90 dungeon solo since I refuse to give up on arde dagger chance
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>>143880341
str
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>>143880341
3 int:1 con:1 spr
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Cute enters!
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>>143880512
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>in a party with 3 fletchers and a swordcuck

Why the fuck is this allowed? Why can't their system force class balance?
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>>143880041
Kill yourself
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>>143880452
>>143880452

Reposting.

I seriously recommend only using it for one or two tokens so you can pretend it was an accident if they ever do anything about it.
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>>143880569
Anon that is quite lewd.
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>>143880665
>>143880452
Thanks Anon
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>>143880253
>Empire
>Tosg
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>>143880598
Why are you complaining? the 3 fletchers will carry you and the swordcuck can chill in the campfire with you.
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>Not taking it easy with /jp/
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>>143880253
Empire will most likely become Desu Vult today.
Wait for the announcement.
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>>143880793
>the 3 fletchers will carry you

Except they're not rank 3 and even if they were they'd still be pieces of shit

They spent 80% of the time autoattacking individual creeps while i took a group of mobs to aoekill while nearly dying in the process.
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>>143880796
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>>143880782
Yes
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>>143880341
Full con

>>143880598
You do realise you can run with premade parties, right?
>but muh exp
don't complain then faggot
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Can anyone pls provide me with a good monk build?
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>Kill enemy guild member trying to grind
>his party gets mad at me
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>>143880796
Nah, fuck off
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>>143881008
Cleric2-Priest2-Monk
Cleric2-Diev2-Monk
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>>143880796
>most jaypees went to korean server
>they've all quit by now
wow what a fucking suprises!!
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>>143881008
Don't build a monk
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>>143880770
Don't do this unless you want to lose TP.
The meme is always the same. You need to be "fast enough". And if you try this trick on a 200TP and it doesn't work, the reason will be "lol u weren't fast enough".
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>>143880906
You don't need rank 3 to aoe as a fletcher, even rank 1 is fine. Rank 2~3 is just for deeps on stationary target.

But you're right, if the player themselves are retards no matter what class they are it will be a shit run.
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>Just hit elementalist the other night
>Hail does shit damage
>Electrocute does shit damage

I fell for the meme.
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>>143881265
It doesn't hurt to try, you can't lose TP just for adding the item in anyways.
I was going to buy the item anyways so if it did somehow use my own TP I don't mind.
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>>143881316
just use frost could, m80
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>>143881316
t. not wiz 3
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>>143881417
Frost cloud is c2
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>>143880452
can anyone check if this is true?

a webm would be gud
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>>143881316

Elememe only gets good at ele3, so you have to suffer 100 more lvls.
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>>143881008
if leaning towards support, priest 2. If aiming for more damage, diev 2.
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>>143881476
No. Its not.

and see >>143881492
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>>143881136
>priest 2
Kill yourself
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>>143881316
>he thought it was a meme when people said elememe only gets good at c3
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>>143881459
I am wiz 3, magic missile does way more damage than either of those.
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>>143881476
c3 anon
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>>143881608
What about frost cloud?
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>Someone confused me with a bot
Such is the life of a Cleric
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Are there any gear sets that give an additional line of damage after cafrisun or am I stuck with this until 280?
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>got an arde dagger
b-but I'm a swordie...
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>>143881608
just use frost could, m80


>>143881731
no other
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>>143881584
???
What's wrong with priest 2?
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>>143881789
Half assed """""""""""support"""""""""""
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Why cant linker be part of swordsman tree
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>>143881608
>c3 buffed spell does more damage than unupgraded c1 spells
Whoa...
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What does /tosg/ think of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuWQKm6-Xpg
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you faggots told me Statue of Zemyna wasn't worth getting. Now I'm thinking about it and it seems like it'd be great for boss fights. I see people constantly running out of SP, why wouldn't it be useful?
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>>143881918
t. priest3 cuck

>stoneskins worthless endgame
>massheal almost no difference between lvl 5 and 10
>everything else don't matter shit

enjoy your boring and sad autoattack life while i can take it easy as monk and still get into all parties by having priest2 and doctor
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>>143882137
Because those faggots should be drinking pots.
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>>143881730
>Cleric
Might as rename the class to Bot
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>>143882179
NO MONKS!
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>cat ears
>they're blacker than black hair so they stand out instead of blend with it
This triggers me.
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Where's our designated cleric super autist and wizard super autisti?
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>>143881918
Yeah that's understandable
Honestly I don't get why people want to be shit hybrids
Like this guy >>143882179
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>>143882179
+(You)
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>>143882106
Terrible
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>>143881479
SOMEONE CHECK IT SI WE CAN JEW IMC BACK
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>>143882179
how worthless is monk if you don't even need c3?
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Wait elementalist are shit?
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>215
>still running 200 dungeon in search

Doesn't surprise me it's a Barb 3 Doppel
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Whose wugushi are those fixes?
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>>143882449
complete waste honestly. You only get the shitty versions of its 2-3 most useful dmg moves.
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>>143880218
Today i looted a Karacha dagger recipe at first Dulla cube of the day and the mithril ore i needed for it dropped after 20 or less minutes of farm.
You can get the thing you want if you believe in yourself enough.
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/Ohayou/ when?
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>>143882106
Why does he pick sacrament? You're better off paying the 1k silver than using that.
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>>143882137
It's just alch jewmasters trying to disinfo people into believing sp, sp regen, and sp cost reduction are all useless and you should just buy more of their potions like a good goy.
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>>143881316

Your future, anon.
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Who wants to kiss! (I am surprised no one took my name, considering people kept saying they were gonna.)
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>>143882569
Soon I hope!
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>>143882137
Get it to lv4 for 100% uptime
Carve Attack fall off anyways at endgame unless you play a DievMonk
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>>143882449
it's just a good filler for the times you have to level solo

no one really wants more from a healer than heal10, resurrection, massheal and revive
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>>143882365
Why so?

>>143882575
I guess he's assuming he's not getting any help from Town buffs. I'm still rummaging around with what he made. So far, he also made this

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/i141yw3dxx/
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>>143882502
They are trash until ele 3.
Its pure suffering until than with a brief break the first 20-30 levels when you get magic missile before suffering intensifies until ele 3 in which case you're now the highest dps on your party and always invited into grind groups
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>>143882569
Always
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>>143882502

Ele3 only has one redeeming skill which is frost cloud. The rest of the skills are hot garbage
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>>143881479
>>143882379
I tried it but it didn't work, although I did not use a mouse macro, so I guess I wasn't fast enough. I'll keep trying it, but without the mouse macro.
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is Flammidus card rare? I jsut got one
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>no one tested mastema + holy damage yet

I can't believe imc just made a dark earthquake.
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Fuck, I regret so much adding a second point to carve attack as diev! It freezes my char so damn much and deals no damage even with good ping 0.100-0.13 so often
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>>143883193
No.
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>>143882576
>wasting precious stat/skill points when you can instead spend silver on it
Yea no, you're the misinformer.
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>>143882653
>Male
What a fag
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>>143883193
its your junk drop, congrats.
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>>143882638
I really, really like this picture. Mind if I save it?
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>>143882719
>Monk DPS Support Tank!
That means:
Shit DPS
Shit support
Shit tank

NO MONKS
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>>143883217
its shit
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>100 TP = 10 dollars
>one 30 day token = 20 dollars
>female hair = 20 dollars
>male hair = 10 dollars
>costumes = 10 dollars
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>>143882653
I missed you, you literal faggot
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>>143883264
Please be nice! I just want to kiss boys.
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>>143883232
that's just about every skill for me, sometimes putting a skill on CD others just making me stand there for seconds with a mob hitting me. But yeah, carve on paper is great, but server lag fucks it all up.
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>>143883398
>one 30 day token = 20 dollars
Stop playing overwatch if you want to bait here, discord
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>>143883398

100 tp = five dollars here in Silute
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What kind of jew prices mp potions so high
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>>143883398
>one 30 day token = 20 dollars
t. miss infoagent
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>>143883398
>real life haircuts are more expensive than ingame
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>>143882179
>stoneskins worthless endgame
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>>143882719
>Monk DPS Support Tank
Holy shit, be dps or be support, don't choose to be fucking mediocre at both
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>>143883250
If you played the game you would know that Dievs will have leftover points for Carve, Zemyna and Vakarine.
Guess which one of those is the less shit option to level.
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How big of an uproar would there be if imc decided to make tokens untradeable?
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>>143883525
The kind of jew who can't purchase dilgele at relevant prices due to bots raising them insanely.
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>>143883426
I missed you too, Anon! I've been gone so long that I know nothing at all! What's a good musketeer build!
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>>143883593

He's not wrong.

And this is right now, we don't even have the nerf for it yet that ktos just got.

Its scaling was cut down to literally 1/8th what it is now.
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>>143883527
>>143883482
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>>143883459
Me, too!
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>>143883250
Case in point.
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>>143883704
Oh my, I must have missed the part where end game content = team battle league.
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>>143883640

Why would they do that? Big whales who buy tokens to sell at the market it's the reason this game will survive
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>>143883609
Carve attack
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Who else quit this game last week?
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>>143883714
Back to overwatch with you
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>>143882762
Welp fucking time to reroll..
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>>143883714
>he doesn't know about the tp price change
what is june 6?
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>>143883714
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=434
just wait a little

>>143883640
im poor but not to poor to pay like a few bug one a month. got 4 or so in bank anyways.

but BRs, Pinoys, reddit, forum and many others would rage and kys
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>>143883723
Are you saying you wanna kiss!
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>>143883902
Good. Frost cloud is not for the weak of mind.
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>>143883902
How far are you anon?
Depending on how far you are you can change your build, ofc if you already took elememe than your only option is to grit your teeth until the end or to reroll.
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>>143883609
carve attack you retard
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>>143883674
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3144499g
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>>143883674
>>143883426

why don't you guys meet in real and fuck already.
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So there's this stupid fucking quest that involves lighting 4 lights which go out too quickly for one person to do them. I don't have any basic movement potion, and none of my guildmates can help since they've already completed the quest. I already asked on global with /y, but that was no help. Could somebody come assist me so I can progress in the game? It has to be a character that hasn't already completed the quest.
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>>143883606
>>143883283
Thanks for the input, senpai
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>>143883674
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3112228g.1a27314a5161.13293f41516a7185.142135.455565
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>>143884129
Thank you! I've never gone archer before in my life, I do not think, so I don't know what is good!
>>143884192
He'd need to take me on a date first! And I'd need to fall for him!
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>>143884129

>ranger3
>rogue2

Kek
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>>143884329
You're welcome.
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>>143884230

You can do it solo if you're fast enough.

Remember: Due to server lag you can leave a light before the bar is filled.

Start at the leftmost light and go counter-clockwise due to the camera angle this is easiest (with mouse)
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>>143884384
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>>143884431
No, that's fucking bullshit. I'm not sitting there for an hour trying to fuck around with the broken quest because the servers are garbage. I've already tried all of this shit.
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>>143884543

Took me 3 tries last night desu (to be humble)
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>>143883674
BUTT stroke, PENETRATION shot, bayonet THRUST. The perfect class for a fag like you.
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>>143883674
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3111666g.1f25334f516175.2f.455565
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>>143884083
I already got elemental c1.
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>>143884612
The servers are too fucking laggy for me to do it. I've tried over a dozen times now. Its impossible solo.
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>>143881137
They all quit when they realized there wasn't actually a miko class
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>>143883674
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3133366g.15.4f5a6a.2a.455565
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Has there been any info regarding zealot like if it's an int-class? I wanna start levelling my cleric.
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>>143884942
You need a token for the +3 moment speed
Literally pay 2 complete a quest
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Is it worth using the instance resets?
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>>143884129
>>143884334
>>143884683
>>143885018
Are covering fire and snipe no good? No one is recommending it.
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>>143885018
>5 Butt Stroke
>5 Bayonet Thrust
>5 Penetration Shot
Best build for Cattly 10/10
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>>143884537

If you want a real musket build you need scout1 in there to do +50% physical damage on snipe.

So go archer1, ranger1, archer2 (multishot 10 is actually really good with rogue), scout1, rogue2, musket.
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Ranger3 archer2 for swift step or ranger3 rogue for feint+barrage? I'm going memerider2 after
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>>143885018
>QS3
>animation cancelling fixed in ktos, soon itos
>class is unviable late game without beating the most disgusting of RNG boxes
>relies on ping and hoping imc's shit servers are on top quality (they rarely are)

Why would you do this to anyone?
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>>143885158
There isn't any info yet, but one of the new TP female hair is called "hair_zealot" in the files
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>>143885343
YOU'RE BEING HAD YOU DUMB ONAHOLE
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So what's the go-to money maker in itos? I've heard a lot about bees but I want a token sooner than that. I don't want to ignore my attributes either.

>>143882653
Welcome back Gax. Looks like we both decided to suffer again. How did someone take my name but not yours? I'm almost proud.
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>>143883674
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3111333g.1f.4f5a6a.455565
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>>143885493
You only go scout for the cloak for pvp or its general usefulness in pvp.

The +50% bonus is barely noticeable because it's only physical attack added in a dumb way to only one hit. It'll add maybe 5k damage to an already 60k snipe on one target.
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>>143885343
>He's gay
>Butt stroke
>Bayonet thrust
>Penetration shot
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Why are mobs getting displaced after hangman's knot finishes? They rubberband back to their original position after the spell reaches the end of its duration.
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>trying to use your 500 cards with a massive ping
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>>143886036
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>>143885896
Am I? I do not wish to follow advice if it is not good advice.
>>143885948
No clue!
>>143886036
So you're all just bullying me?
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>>143884329
Sorry senpai did you want something constructive?
>http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/i141yw3dxx/
>Trying to be support without taking cleric 2, the bare minimum to be considered support due to heal tiles
>Going priest at all without going to 3 for stoneskin
>Even if he went priest 3, it's expected that he goes chap for capella

Hybird build's might be fine most solo-content, but by "late" game when you have to group up to progress no-one is going party with him
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>>143886079
What is your end build?
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>>143886159
You're going to be bullied if you don't atleast read the OP.
>>
Suddenly, all the blogmasters and attention whores are back.
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>>143886159
What do you actually want to do with your muskie? It's hard to fuck up with one, so even a costume collector build could be functional if you pick muskie at r7
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Why do people not go c2/c3 of cleric, divine might seems overpowered as fuck, who needs to invest any more than 1 point in everything when you have that maxed which gives +10 to your skills?
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>you'll never be corsair 3 fencer 3

why live
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>>143886458
Mia wants to quit
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>>143886349
I'm going for alchemist after I get sorcerer next rank.
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>>143886556
It's 10 uses of +1 skill level at DM10
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>>143886351
But someone was saying QS3 is bad and going to get worse! And poisons sound boring!
>>143886527
I want to shoot things!
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>>143886458
I'll take that over angryposters and dramaposters any day.
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>>143886556
Oh anon, if it only worked that way.
Go read the description again or actually play the game.
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>>143886664
Wow ok, no wonder, how disappointing.
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>>143886608
oh, k
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Why is jolly Roger worth leveling more than 1 point? Isn't the duration longer than the cooldown?
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I wanna try this game, but for some reason I cant install it on steam without paying for the adventure packs.
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>>143886319
>>Even if he went priest 3, it's expected that he goes chap for capella
Hello there theorycrafter-kun
>>
I NEED SOMEONE TO HELP WITH THIS STUPID FUCKING KAROLIS LIGHT QUEST. MOVEMENT SPEED POT DOES NOTHING. THE DELAY IS TOO BIG. MY ONLY OPTION IS ANOTHER PARTY MEMBER WHO HASN'T COMPLETED THE QUEST. SERVER IS KLAIPEDA
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>>143886819
Higher pillage chance and I think more attack power boost from combos per level.

You might think you are gimping yourself in the long run by maxing the flag but you can pretty much infinitely use silver to make yourself stronger by overenhancing weapons and armor+buying attributes so don't think of it that way.
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>>143884334
Hunter 3 seems like a waste honestly
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>>143886927
Games closed to new players temporarily whilst IMC fucks about doing absolutely nothing, not even removing the bots that have been there for a month.
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>>143886927
Fuck off then kid. Noone in this thread will help you here. This game deserve to die already.
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I'm a STR-DEX hybrid swordsman (roughly 1:2) and I have a re-stat potion. Should I switch to full DEX or is it a meme?

I'm currently 260+ and I like dodging.
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>>143886608
>1circle in sorc
Waste 1 whole circle for Summon Servant? Really?
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>>143887018
Change channel you fuckwit. Just keep trying.
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>gay cat eared onahole is playing again
Noooo!!!!!!!!
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>>143887071
Really? since when? I havent heard a goddamn thing in the last couple of days.

>>143887095
The ones who deserve to die are people like you.
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>>143886927
You can download the game with the method listed in the OP.
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>>143886971
What options you got bruh?
I'm just saying why making half assed builds are shit
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>Do a quest where i have to heal farmers who are poisoned
>Cure them and they walk into monsters and die two seconds later
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>>143887259
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=428

Since the 25th
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>>143887041
How much levels should I invest in iron hook? Or should I just max the flag and forget about iron hook?
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>>143887142
alchemist, who cares?
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>>143887570
the people who are gonna carry his useless ass
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>>143887623
Thanks.
>/tosg/ discord
https://discord.gg/0heefDqe35vj9Raj
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>>143887623
MODS=GODS
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>>143887071
Will they fix it?
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>>143887479
Iron hook is really good if you like PvP I can tell you that but I don't play a Corsair so I can't tell you how many points to put in it. Corsair seems really starved for points and I'd put leftover points into it rather than focusing on maxing it though.
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>>143887224
I've already fucking done all of that shit. The game is too fucking laggy to activate anything.
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>>143887661
>useless
>already pyro-linker-thaum
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>>143887232
Is that bad?
>>143884129
Does this stem any good? https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3144499g.154555.253f4f6575.1a2a5585.153545 Also what do the percents for musketeer skills scale with, STR or DEX or something? None of the swordie builds I did had any scaling at all.
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>>143885618
pls respond
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>>143886721
It'd be literally broken if it worked that way. +1 skill is awesome with skills that scale well, like most r7 ones, the ones that get more hits per level and/or significant base damage additions, Running Shot etc.

>>143886681
Yeah, but you have to choose 5 circles before muskie. I think the cookie cutter was something like archerc2 ranger scout rogue falconer musk, maybe archerc2 ranger scout3 musk if you just want to shoot things nonstop
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Can't bypass install using the op method.
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>>143868164
Do not listen to this anon.
I can't stress this enough you NEED to take Hop2 for any shinobi build.
Highlander's Cross guard is too specific to work in any circumstances
(you have to take a hit to apply the pierce debuff) which either:
do it before clones and you will run out of time/ be out of placement to effectively combo
Do it after clones and you will just die.

Fencer? no it's garbage.
you need to have a rapier and swap shit to be efficient.
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>>143885979
isn't it more like +300 to +500 added to snipe?
Which is even worse
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>>143886567
No, or maybe
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I want to make an alchemist alt, what's a good build that can still be somewhat useful in dungeons?
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>>143887951
play the game
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>>143888310
Pyro2 Linker2
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>>143887479
Depends on what circle you're planning to end your corsair. Keel hauling and dust devil deal absolute garbage damage, so maybe one point in both. Never played corsair2, but hexen droppen seems to be the shit, don't know how well DWA scales with level, pistol shot seems to be quite shitty but what else are you taking.
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>>143888310
Just do some variation of Pyro-linker for easy leveling and dungeon runs. You won't do as much damage as frost cloud ofc but people love linkers.
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>>143888304
Snipe has a 400% final multiplier that applies to everything.
Those 500 would turn into 2000, maybe 4000 with max attribute and 1.5x with crit.

It's not a pitiful amount, but it's not much overall and certainly not the reason people pick scout 1.
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>shiny mob appears
>use hexing on it without thinking
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>>143888310
Cryo 3 Psychokino.
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>>143887895
Iron hook is great if you like solo levelling at those 220+ maps
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>>143886734
>>143887661
N-no bully pls.
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>>143888291
t. someone who has never played a highlander or fencer shinobi
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>>143888078
I like swift step
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>>143888642
>Curse an enemy to decrease its magic defense and prevent recovery.

Wow, literally nothing, amazing.
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>>143888291
>fencershinobis needing to weapon swap
hello miss info, I've missed you lately
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>>143888310

Pyro 2 linker 1 thauma 1
Pyro 1 Linker 1 thauma 2
Pyro 1 linker 2 thauma 1

Imo: Pyro 2 linker 1 thauma 1 is the most desirable because you can farm mats alone easily, quest without suffering, useful in dungeons with 5 fives and +200 matk/atk from thauma. plus, cute costume and swll mosnters = double dilgeles.
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>>143887976
Like enhances, it's a modifier that comes after everything, so it's like you're hitting 4, 3 15ish or 7.5 times with those skills.
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>>143888850
Why comment when you don't even know what hexing does?
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>>143888850
Hexing kills the increased loot buff shiny mobs have.
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>>143888773
Thanks senpai
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2127a27a.15213554.1a2a5575.113a4a55.1a3a445165

How is this /tosg/? I plan on grinding most of the time, alone or in parties.
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Killing pinoy is not enough.
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>>143880796
>>>/jp/15306341

So they really ARE /jp/.
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http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/zxhdlw3163/
R8
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>>143889123
Did you have another guy bouncing him back to you?
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>>143888291
You do understand fencers have a bonus 15% pierce damage, complete def nullity for pierce attacks (which is crucial if you went high dex for shinobi) and bonus pierce damage on top of all that right?

Hoplites main draw is allowing shinobis to focus str as well as finestra + its splash attribute as well as the fact most spears have damage bonuses on bosses (which is what shinobis mainly do since non-stationary is hard as fuck due to horrid ai).
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>>143889474
So post your build already.
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>>143889042
I'm doing the same build but with another damage circle instead of linker2, maybe warlock or even pyro3.
I also think having 100% uptime on flame ground is better than having lv 10 fire wall and that you should have at least 1 point on enchant fire.
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>>143888713
No bully, but as someone who was going 1 rank of thaum for the outfit and decided to go full pyro3 thaum3, I was just curious.
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>>143886734

>Huntan
>in charge of shitting up this general
Fuck off, you're just as bad as Kirby.

>>143887661

I have a cryomancer alchemist and I feel regret at not building a special snowflake. Having fun is more important than having a min-maxed build.

>>143888331

Lose weight.
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when does Barrage start sucking?
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>Hey all those demons gathering in that area over there are a real problem, could you go take care of them all?
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Are Arde daggers still viable past 220?
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>>143889687
>Only 1 point in enchant fire
>He doesn't know
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>>143889793
Whenever getting too close to enemies is suicide.
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>>143889474
>Taking Hoplite and Fencer on the same character
EVER.

No, don't do something as retarded as this, even HoneyPantsu wouldn't do something as retarded.
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>>143889839
They're always viable.
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>>143889608
I went sword1>pelt1>barb1>sword3>fencer>shinobi instead of following the koreans and forums who ignore pelt and take double barb.

I do not regret it as pelt helps mob for double kunai isntagib
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What would be the cutest hair costume1 to go for here?
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>>143889941
When did anyone ever mention taking hoplite and fencer on the same character?
>>143868164
Show me in this post where it was said.
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>>143889758
fuck off futureproof goodbuilds
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>>143889758
who
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>>143889839
no you should get a meme meme if your archer or venom if you're anything else
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>>143890086
A top hat.
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>>143889842
Please educate me
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>be kirito
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>>143890118
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>>143889978
>taking pelt as shinobi
for what reason?

you trash are only good for stealing world boss cubes from other people and killing dungeon bosses if the videos are anything to go by
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>>143890307
>out of context pic
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>>143890187
But those cost an arm and a leg
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>>143890296
Who would do such a thing?
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>>143890397
Yeah, no.
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>>143890296

This build is not that bad, meme cloud + flame ground hurts, fireball 10 is always good and you have firepillar to burst too.

Hail is not that slow to cast, electrocute kinda but forget meteor, this going to be a download. Plus there's some gimmick attribute to fire skill kills in the elementalist's passives
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>>143890434
Hunt for a petamion recipe and sell it
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>>143890117
futureproof is the only /tosg/ guild you're not welcomed here discoreddit
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>>143890397
Under no context is posting something like that acceptable.
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>>143890434
then just use arde

it's the same thing minus the extra stats

some people like supports go beetleback instead because they just do grinding parties and dont do damage anyways
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>>143890439
Fuck off discord no-fun-allowed min-maxer.
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>queue into mission
>4 girls from orsha
>i'm the only boy from klai
>literally could rape me and no one on the server would find out
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>>143890581
>someone posts a pic and immediately deletes it
>try to recall what it said and type it out
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>>143890661
>This is my fetish
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>>143890545
Prominence is not reliable damage. Fire property explosion isn't worth it.
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>>143890790

But you don't need prominence with the pyro 2 build in question.
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>>143890762
>things that never happened
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>>143890296
what a horrible thing to see this day!
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>>143890762
>no quotation marks
>~
>being overly specific without quotation marks

Your words mean nothing, are the proofs?
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Should delete discord guilds and other links from them on the OP tb.h
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>>143891110
>Animefaggots talking shit about each other

Kek
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>>143890561
Is futureproof in-game chat only?
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>>143891056
>>143890545
>>143890296
Future proof it then with pyro 3 hellbreath got buffed massively on ktos.
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>>143891256
Yes. I know some people in there lurk the discord but it's not a guild channel.
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>>143890434
get a good awakening and it's almost as good as the 20x more expensive daggers, then upgrade when your day is blessed by rng

a good awakening has even more value if you get addicted to alts (70 vs 170 level reqs)

+17 property attack is the max possible value for ardes
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>>143891245
>being this ashamed of being a weeb

Gain weight, or grow thicker skin you weeaboo fuck.
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What's the best way to get cards?
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>>143889327
Was planning that, maybe next time.
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>>143889294
>>143889294
>>143889294
>>143889294
>>143889294
>>143889294
pls respond
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>>143891394
They should be kicked for using discoreddit.
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>>143891589
I'm not a weeb
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>>143891654
Then lolipan would be kicked too ;^)
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Is this supposed to say something? Also these servers feel worse than KToS ever did.
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>>143891620
Why take Samediveve if you have no points in zombify?
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>>143891326
>hellbreath got buffed .....on ktos.
ye , but not so much.
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>>143891818

It's not supposed to appear unless you have TP to claim.

But they messed it up in the current patch.

It will disappear as you keep playing a session.
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>>143891915
To go faster. I don't know what to do tbqh.
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>>143891620
> physical build
> not a single point in bwa kayiman
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>>143891654
I am not an autist like Jinsae that cares for what anonymous dissenters in the thread say or want. Whatever my members do out of my sights that doesn't negatively influence the guild matters little to me.

We just want to play video games.
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>>143891620
>>143889294
Literally nothing wrong with this build
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>>143891980
Got it! Thank you Anyan.
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fuck off futureproof
>>
>mixed orsha klai run
>everyone is within 4 levels of each other
>all klai run
>14 level deficit

Great :)
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>>143891620
INT bokor then STR monk is an odd choice.
>>143891915
Samediveve gives half of it's movespeed buff to you.
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>>143892038
Need deprotect zone.
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>>143891431

Nice, anon. I got one awakened dagger too for my wizard. I just with it was holy damage.

Also, just slap a lv 5 green gem for your physical alts and you're set almost forever.

But one must consider that venom gives a good CON at the cost of lowering your damage vs plate (huge in pvp), but Karacha brings more damage to medium monsters and that beloved dex for physical damage / atk for corsair.

One thing that I never tested was the player's size. If players are medium size, karacha is the go dagger for pvp in a dps favorable scenario
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>>143892059
>doesn't negatively influence the guild
They're already doing that by going to discoreddit.
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>>143891394
I see, is this the discord link?
>>143887724
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>>143889474
The 15% bonus damage is indeed nice.
as for the attaque coquille's debuff problem is defense isn't rally that significant. at best it would add around +300 for pierce attacks (which is still good)
as for the additional pierce bonus damage I don't see it. mind telling me more?
As for lunge its good but i feel doing hoplite's spear lunge and spamming thurst is more powerful.

Hop2 as you said gives finestra and benefits from having big flat additionnal damage from 1H spears but you also need spear lunge which is a 6 sec debuff with 2OH that boosts your pierce attacks by 80%

Your build isn't horrendous or anything and i can see it work but i feel hoplite is the better option in all situations and gives flexibility with R2 R5 and R6 being whatever you want.

Sorry for the swap i assumed you took Hop2 in your build for some reason
>>
What's the stat growth difference between a velheider and a hoglan? Negligible?
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>>143892147
>INT bokor then STR monk is an odd choice.
FULL
DEX

>>143892197
I will have no spr.
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>>143886567
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>>143892308
Yes.
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>>143892618
Dex doesn't benefit effigy bokor at all though
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>>143888306
>>143892657
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>>143892657
No
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Which one is the meme here for a swordsman, hybrid or full DEX?
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>>143892429
The main point of fencer shinobis is lunge + pelt combo which allows them to function OUTSIDE stationary bosses.
I don't know how you do it but I find it impossible to properly mob without swashbuckling even if double kunai instagibs anything that moves.

Either way I fucked up my build by taking pelt since apparently the koreans and tos forums take double barb instead which I presume makes the build even better but I find it near impossible to properly mob without pelt swashing or maybe I'm just lazy.

Basically taking fencer as shinobi allows you to do stuff besides bosses with stealth>kunai>double slash spam due to swashbuckle+lunge.
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>>143892997
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>tfw you fake Mia post because you killed her
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i'm a swordsman about to go necro. can anybody tell me the best way to get cards? is there a quick method or do i just do the daily dungeons and every quest in the game?
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>>143893176
......

>>143893250
Heh nope
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>>143893278
>i'm a swordsman about to go necro
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>>143892832

I'll figure something out I guess.
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>>143893278
>i'm a swordsman about to go necro
Excuse moi ?
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>>143893338
no i mean i'm switching characters. sorry i'm brazilian.
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>>143892429
not that anon but wouldn't fencer make your double slash do more damage or is kunai the only skill worth using later on
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>>143893493
Oh. Yeah. Just doing daily dungeons and quests give you cards for necro.
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>>143893493
That sentence would still be confusing even if you'd written it in Portuguese
>>
what is this futureproof meme?
>>
>tfw still no null guild

where did senpai go
>>
>>143893942
Pokemon number 623
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>>143893942
when R8 comes out, most builds will become useless since R8 will be better than R7. Futureproofing means your build will be always ready for anything.
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>>143892595
The Velhider is actually better.
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is discord as horrible as rog clique was or did it transcend it ages ago in it's shit levels
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>>143893970
he rerolled under another name to get rid of stalkers
>>
Why isn't playing swordcuck a bannable offense? Serious question. You ruin every party you force your way in you goddamn parasites.
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>>143893942
Each rank is better than the last so unless your class is offering alot of utility (e.g. surespell or quickcast) or percentages (e.g. quick cast attribute) than your pure numbers build will fall off (e.g. barbs/doppels used to be op before r7 came out)
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>>143894093
Can you even do that?
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>>143894034
>useless since R8 will be better than R7
Don't think that'll be true for archers. Musketeer's and Cannoneer's shit scale too well, also most of the know possible classes don't seem to be that offenders oriented, unless Hackapell or MERGEN are really fucking good
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>>143893970
I offered Null a slot in Futureproof several weeks ago. He turned me down saying he only ever logged in to do dungeons at that point. In other words, he was very close to quitting altogether.
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>>143894135
Because circle jerking faggots like /vg/ need guilds
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>>143894047
It's mostly weebs posting anime because that's the only thing they know about in the world.
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>>143893095
I can still function properly in every other situation with doppel's Cyclone and double slash as well as instagibbing mobs like you with kunai combos.
even for bosses, Situations where bosses are stationary are really rare so i just usually pop up clones get in spear lunge and kunais followed by some thrusts and Double slash and it works quite well.
the only downside being mobbing which i do by jumping all over the place and doing basic attacks to proc aggro and then from a "ball" with mobs.

But yeah, i'm considering taking pelt as r8 if it ever comes out
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>>143894034

R8 will make Templars viable!
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>>143894047
They still post the link so i guess it's better. Doesn't that make them not a clique yet? And no name calling on the thread yet.
>>
last time I went on discord they were all circlejerking about being depressed, I wonder where they think they are.
I guess these in-joke communities require having no self-reflection whatsoever
but hey I'm in a guild with a ponyfucker, so what the fuck do I have to say on the matter
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>>143894504
>taking a rank2 class over another r7/r8 circle

reroll your shit build
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>>143894135
My swordcuck can kill most people in PvP, unless bullshit like Hunter or Kino3 is at play.
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>>143894661
they had namecalling on the thread just earlier
there's definitely a clique in there already though, they will go "who the fuck are you" if you butt in to their edgydeep conversations
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>>143894248
Doppel's problem isn't Cyclone itself, but how much the game changed coupled with the fact the c2 skills not being particularly strong. Deeds is great and Cyclone scales incredibly well even after the nerf, but that's pretty much the class.

This also makes me wonder how much the game will change if r8 becomes a thing, will we see normal mobs with 600k hpdoing 5k damage ech hit?
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>>143894504
>taking pelt at r8
I mean sure it helps but really anon?
You're going to miss out alot of the r8 utility/damage/etc.
But than again I guess this all depends on what r8 classes there will be.

I feel slightly better to know you're suffering from having no pelt and feel less regretable about not following the cookie cutter korean and tos forums build without pelt
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SO i want to make a tank,whats the best build?
Swordsman > Peltasta > Peltasta C2 > Rodelero > Redelero C2 > Fencer > Fencer C2 is the best one?
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maybe r8 swordsman will have a taunt
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>>143894717
>needs to have the greatest min max build to have fun and be functional
>>143894885
Pelt swash buckling is just that good. try making a swordie without it it's hell.
But yeah, other than we still have to wait for r8 which can come next year or never

You shouldn't feel bad for taking pelt ever. also the forums posts or anything else are full of shit and makes you wonder if people talking about shinobi even played the class or the game.
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>Fucked up first Corsair because I didn't take Swashbuckletesta
>Reroll into Cataphract C3 -> Dragoon
>I fucking hate Mounts and all of Cataphracts skills require one.
>Can't be assed to replay the same dogshit one gorillion zones again
This game seriously needs different progression routes.
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>>143895273
I don't know of a best build but that's a decent taunter.
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>>143894841
This is false. I just entered their discord and they seem friendly. So i don't see the hate for them.
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>>143895273
Are you tanking for ET or just pve?
If ET you need pelt 3 and squire 3 (well not really squire 3 but more squire levels help).

If just pve than its fine
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>>143895770
>If ET you need pelt 3 and squire 3
When did this meme start
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>>143895458

How do you hate mounts and level a cata 3
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>>143895720
They get shit talked, so they act differently for a bit.
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Any guilds on fedimian that aren't named shit names?
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Falconers deserve to be bullied.
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>>143895770
The best the better,ET build would be optimal one for pve too?
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>>143895861
Yeah because the korean party that got to floor 15 didn't use two swordies with pelt 3 or anything :^).

The 7th floor running around in circles as a pelt 3 is also a thing as is making your elememes life easier in the earlier floors
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>>143896073
tanking for et =/= pve as in et you're going to be running around in circles like a headless chicken trying not to die even after going full con

Normal tanking your build would be LEAGUES better than most et pelt 3 squire 3 memes.
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>>143895902
I didn't want to start over again
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>>143895861
It had a burst of activity after some ET runners started saying that they wish they'd had pelt3squire3.
At least according to my faulty memory
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>>143896220
Thanks
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Is that faggot still trying to duel people in crystal mines and getting his ass kicked?
I wanna bully him.
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>>143896086
>the korean party that got to floor 15
>the korean party
literally everyone including their mom has ran floor 15 by now, what the fuck do you mean by "the"
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>>143896019
many of those that weren't named by italians or germans
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>>143895861
It started when everyone wanted a fucking pelt 3 with squire and when people showed that the meme actually worked.

Not like it really matters since 99% of tosg will never do ET and get past the first few floors much less reach 10-15.
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>>143893052
Swordsman itself is the meme sadly
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>>143896589
Some were named by weebs though.
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>>143896602
Any videos of floors 10-15?
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Guys do i max Flame Ground or Fire Wall?
I feel like Flame Ground is better but figure i should ask for some "Expert" advice....
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>>143896826
its in archives and toscamp has it too
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>only a hot fix to enable cross server dungeon queuing

fucking hell, this is great.
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>>143896602
I can see both being useful, but not a necessity. What makes pelt3 squire3 a must? I don't see squire's third circle adding much, nor how useful swash is when all mobs must be aggressive anyways
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>>143896826
Its in the earlier threads anon.
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>>143897036
fire wall is garbage
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Reminder that Paladin is a strong and well-balanced class
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>>143896602
>>143897162
that's why the new meme is peltasa c2 rodelero c2 fencer c2
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>>143897036
Wall isnt good.
Balls+Ground are great.
Pillar is very nice.
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>>143887128
I keep seeing this and I don't get it. I don't even know what discord is. Is it an edgy way of saying I have the Cattly effect? I don't think I do. I'm sorry anon.
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Paladins are the strongest race in the world
Paladin is futureproof
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>>143897162
Pelt 3 is pretty much absolute in its requirement, squire 3 less so but it certainly helps more than anything else from the hahaman tree.

Pelt 3 allows you to lure enemies to the correct place which helps your elememes alot as well as letting you run circles in floor 7 whilst the rest of your party is following the slow ass shitty thing.

http://m.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=4185&l=9360
is useful if you want to understand the korean meta
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>>143897598
What the fuck m8
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>Even FP is dead
where we do we all go now famtachi? I'm not good at Overwatch
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Planning on rolling a Shinobi as my next toon. Is Full Dex viable?
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Quick, can you still do the double attribute trick?
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>>143897504
>>143897295
Would it be worth maxing Pillar instead of Wall then, im only C1 Pyro atm?
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>>143897625
but how is Squire possibly better than Rodelero C2 Slithering?
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>>143897598
What is the best paladin build? 3:1 SPR CON?
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/shdx38osbk/

Is this build safe and Futureproofâ„¢?
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>>143897295
>>143897504
>Fire Wall is garbage
>Flame Ground doesn't even hit Flying
Nice disinfo
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>>143897686
>Even FP is dead

This is suffering for real, now that PvP is essentially removed nobody gives a rats ass to play because the only thing we can do together is evac/truffles.
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>>143897726
Are you going fencer?
If no than high str is tons better due to finestra giving tons of critical chance.
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>>143897295
>>143897504
Fire Wall is actually damn good but only at level 15 and with linker. It's easy much much better than ground and more versatile.
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>>143897839
You move too slowly with slithering and moving too slowly for a single second means you die.

Theres a reason all the videos of et show pelts running around in circles like a headless chicken outside the barrier
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>>143897904
t. miss infoagent
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>>143889978
Would you change anything if you could or are you pretty happy with your build?
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Holy shit is there ANY way to transfer my silver among my characters? I tried selling stuff to myself but the game even blocks that, what the fuck man. I earned this fucking silver, let me use it IMC.
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>fixed a monster icon in the journal and added some loading screens
>thank you for your love of Tree of Savior
JUST
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>>143897898

>Going anything but STR Paladin
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>>143898103
Barbs whole existence is +50 crit rate and low as fuck damage slash with fencer comboes.
You probably don't need to take barb and can take corsair for the flag or something else instead.
Just be warned that barb was easy leveling when I got it which means you'll have to suffer a bit from sword 3 pelt 1 instead of having barbs instagib helm>cleave combo in the early levels.
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>>143898295
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>>143898338
3:1 STR DEX with 70 CON? Should I give up Conversion and pick Smite instead?
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>>143898209
Buy arde daggers and sell them
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>>143897598
Monks are an asset too if they know how to take advantage of their skills!
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>>143898209
Have a very trustworthy friend buy throwaway items from you. Preferably if you both have tokens. You lose 20% but you get your cash.
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>>143897948
but the move decreases the evasion. Wouldn't having Dex to make up for it be better?
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>>143898695
I want to take advantage of your huge assets, Koenig!
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>>143897904
>enemy is clearly flying
>takes damage from Fire Ground
>another flying enemy
>no hits at all
50% correct, miss info.
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>>143898695

Put your Hanaming back on please
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>>143898747
Flipping items in the market seems much better than this. Your method involves a 4 days wait time plus 20% tax. If you buy equipment that sees a lot of movement in the market, like hats for example, you can transfer it using team storage and sell it for a 10% net loss and 2 days wait. If you're not in a hurry you can even wait for cheap offers to appear, grab them, transfer and resell for a profit.
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Why is the zombie bokor build considered bad? Is the AI for them really stupid or do they just do no damage?
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GRINDING TUNES GO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmq39rSBi6g&index=9&list=RD0IYght7FGdg
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>>143897898

I'll share my certified Good Buildâ„¢ with you but you have to promise to keep it secret from the plebs

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4117bbb.1a213a435561.153545.1f213f446575

Str/Dex spread is up to you but keep in mind Smite is a single hit so it doesn't benefit much from Str
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>>143899324
It's a combination of zombie damage not being great and zombie AI being dumb.
It's certainly not as bad as people make it out to be though.
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>>143899367
>full dex diev+pally+monk+druidc2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V81DlvZkxGE
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>>143899367
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaqZoph265U
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>>143899627
>Any map full of ranged mobs completely shutting you down
>Not that bad
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>>143899367
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUFWXpYJKaI
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What's the coolest looking swordsman costume? I'm going to roll a new toon depending on how cool it looks.
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>>143898695
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>>143899503
Thanks I will keep it in my heart
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>>143899993
>toon
holy fuck are yo ua fucking reatadsag;klgjagj
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>>143899942
How do ranged mobs shut down zombies?
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Monks are cute but...
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>>143899032
It went for a snack.

>>143899324
>>143899627
Zombie Bokor c1 is suffering. Conga line is where it gets good but you'll certainly need to focus on STR.

>>143899367
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4n2lE6ll5I
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Is the purpose of the mercenary missions to give lots of exp? And I should only be running siaulai right ?
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>>143900289
yes, kinda.
yes.
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>>143900227
Koenig, why aren't I in your friends list?
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>>143900289

It's not the fastest way to level but it's a renewable source of xp that helps a lot before grinding spots open up and you can queue for it by yourself.
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>>143897307

No, it's not.

>Conversion is shit.
>Turn Undead is shit.
>Restoration is shit.
>Conviction is eh.
>Smite is eh.
>Resist Elements is eh.
>Barrier is good.

As you can see, you need to invest 3 circles in it to get one good skill and that skill can be bought from Pardoner, so your whole investment was worth it fuckall.
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>>143899367
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-XwgZSe0is
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>>143900030
You should keep it in your ass, because that's where shit belongs.
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>>143900576
Because you haven't added me?
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>>143900227
Conga line is a meme.
They kill much faster if you just let them attack on their own and you can also buff their basic attack damage with Hexing and Ogouveve.
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>>143899324
Relying on zombie auto attacks when you start seeing 80k+ hp mobs is quite meh. Damballa is great and shit at same time. Against bosses or mobs immune to knockback it's literally stronger than Meme Cloud. You can either use it with the attribute, which will spawn additional zombies that will also explode, and those might spawn even more zombies, or you can combo it with mackangdal/revive and use it multiple times on the same zombies and they won't die after the first damballa. Anyway, the damage is usually pitiful against most common mobs because they're knocked out of damballa's area of effect right after the first explosions. It also relies a bit of RNG.
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I want to make a kino for pvp purposes. Is it better to go full wiz3 first, or just go wiz2-kino3-wiz3?
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>>143900652

>He doesn't know
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>>143900492
>>143900632
thanks! any tips on money making as a scout lvl 102 scout 1? sp pots are starting to take a toll on my economy
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I want to hold hands with a cute chronomancer!
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>>143900927
farm weebus skins
they drop about every 100 kills and sell for 75k - 150k
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>>143900738

>kino for pvp

you meant cryo 3 kino 3 or cryo 2 kino 3 wl, right?
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For a Necro, should I be wearing plate, or cloth?
Stats are 3:2 Int/Con
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>get into a dungeon as cleric
>4 wizards
>they somehow combined do so little damage we run out of time
What the hell.
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>>143901097
Not him but would Cryo-Psycho 3-Thaum 2 full con be decent in PvP? Would give you access to Reversi, Raise, and Gravity pole all on the same character which are pretty much god tier skills, and you could go full con with the option to use transpose when you want some burst damage on a raised target.
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Diev3 with Goddess harem is the best cleric.
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>>143900669
Why tho?
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>>143899367
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLzjm9E1hwg
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>>143901249
you probably had cryolinkers, the most useless motherfuckers on the planet
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>>143899367
Got you famly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Med2XipHJJM
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chap > cler2 > pd
vs
chap > krivi > pd
vs
chap > druid > something else

Also, spr vs int
pls help!
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>>143900736
>>143900227

So I might as well go INT/SPR and spam effigy and hexing then?
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>>143901295
That's one cute plant.
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What exactly the Staggered debuff do?
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>>143898462
I already fucked up a character by going corsair, flag gives you like +30 dmg and like 10 silver when it procs which is rarely.
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>>143901464
It's entirely possible to go hybrid Effigy/Zombie. You only need Effigy at 15, neither Hexing nor Zombify need to be maxed. It's up to you to decide whether the zombies and damballa are worth less duration on Mackangdal and less targets on Hexing. The later is mitigated if you go Plague Doctor as Pandemic spreads Hexing, though mind the cooldown.
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>>143901558
There are cuter plants
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>>143899843
Nice
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>>143901073
thanks m8. Did you mean weaver skin? google gets me nothing on weebus skins
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>>143879987
>FOE (Jinsae)
>Clover (Karga)

Why are these guilds still in the OP? They should just be removed
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Corsair is any good?
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>>143902039
But Karga is /tosg/
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>>143901831
>NOOT NOOT Ferret getting more pussy then me
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>GvG are so dead there wasn't a single war declared on Fedimian for the whole week
>being in a normie guild where gm lost will of trying to find a no neutral guild
>guild events are fixed at something like 1-2am so no chance to do them
>people here aren't interested at all in doing world bossing unless they radomly find one
fuck.
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>>143902204
It's a ferret, what do you expected?
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from what I'm understanding, Dex/Con is more viable only in pvp and weak in pve whereas Str/Con is way stronger in PvE but much weaker in Pvp. However, wouldn't the evasion from dex also be incredibly useful in pve? Unless the damage discrepancy is actually that huge.
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>>143900738
I went wiz2-kino3-wiz3 because i was sure that Magic Missile wasn't as good as Psychic Pressure. Just remember to put 10 points in Sure Spell and not more than one in Magnetic Force.
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We should attack FOEdditcord to B q H.
Simply because there is no other choice of non-neutral guilds.
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>>143902787
well yeah, cant compete with that much cute and sexy
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>>143902591
after you declare a war, the war cooldown also counts for a declared war, so it takes 2 weeks to declare a new war if you're at 3 wars/cooldowns. This is what is killing GvG more than Neutral guilds
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>>143903257
Who's 'we'?
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>>143903406
"We", the /tosg/ guild.
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>>143903257
>>143903497
yes, let's just get our other guilds like... or..... oh wait
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Where is the Owl Burial Ground pink hair NPC? He doesn't show up for me where he's supposed to.
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>I can't wait for all the stuff they're going to bring over from the Korean version!
>Maintenance notes: We fixed an icon for a monster that nobody looks at this will take 5 hours thank you
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>>143903548
You need to have invested over 100 points in a stat.
>>
Are healsluts in high demand in this game?
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>>143903548
you need a stat over 100
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>>143897586
What's a Cattly effect!
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>>143903697
>>143903749
thanks miss info
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>>143903749

lmao koenigger will never get the pink hair
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>>143903736

No

The role spread is pretty even actually

Support mages might be the most requested
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>>143902591
/r/ing fedimian guild that doesn't have a shit name.
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>>143902591
>>143903352

You can actually prolong the war if you or the enemy withdraw the wardec, then re-declare.
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>>143902809
>10pts in surespell

What are you fucking doing
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Anyone else in this general experiencing the symptoms of "Ded Gaem" in the klaipeda server? Signs of 'Ded Gaem" include: lack of players near dungeon entrances such as around 90 and 130, really really long queues, people discussing overwatch instead of TOS (perhaps in discoreddit), no grinding groups being advertised in shout chat, bots still swarming around low level zones, and intense lag impacts. The causes of the "Ded Gaem" disease may have been triggered by IMC's incompetency and fading interest in Tree of Savior.

If you are experiencing symptoms of "Ded Gaem" please contact your latest waifu for psychological healing, alternatively you can treat "Ded Gaem" by working on your backlog and watching moeshit to alleviate your symptoms. A long-lasting cure called "quitting TOS" may be used, however this carries risks of death, withdrawal symptoms, and despair.
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>>143904365
;_;
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where are all the drawfags ;_;
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>>143904284
Shut the fuck up retard. Do you even play wiz3 kino3? Do you know how fucking GREAT it is to have that long of a surespell? Do you know how long PP and GP take to complete?
It's not like you have any other places to put the points, retard
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>>143904365

It's neet hours right now, I never have trouble with queues or parties during primetime
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>>143904365

Here in Telsiai it's so full you can't even get into dungeons at 5:20AM in the morning.
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>>143904594
Thanks for answering it for me, girl. (boy)
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>>143902802

Evasion is super nice in pve, the only reason you'd go all STR is if you have rogues sneak hit which gives 70%+ chance to crit
>>
I can never remember what to do after the royal mausoleum. I know I need to do a few side areas before I get the next story quest, which areas?
>>
>>143904517
CATTLY (F) RAPING CATTLY (M) WHEN?
>>
>>143904365

They're opening up cross-server dungeons so this really isn't an issue
>>
>>143904881
>Not Koenig getting bullied in the Futureproof guild dungeon for being a monk
>>
do you guys have hope in this game after this optimization patch tonight?
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>>143904794
> the only reason you'd go all STR is if you have rogues sneak hit which gives 70%+ chance to crit

Also wugushit.
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>>143905051
What patch?
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>>143905031
I've been waiting since beta for more Cattly (f) porn. I don't even play anymore, but I need it.
>>
Where?

>>143903817
When you post something either game related or not and suddenly 50 posts pop up like >>143904881
You know, half the fun of /vg/ Thanks for existing
>>
>>143904794
>>143905072
I plan on making a shinobi but I can't decide between str/con, dex/con, or a hybrid. Thematically, dex/con seems to be best for a shinobi but it's outclassed by str until you have the best equipment. There doesn't seem to be a right answer though.
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Come do ET with palemoon and me.
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>>143905051
Yes!
It's going to be great!
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>>143905464
>fun
>will die within 10 seconds
>fun
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>>143905589
Barrier is failureproof.
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>>143905464
Rip LKChat autoblock. I don't remember how to unlocked.
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>>143905632
Yeah sure, believe that.
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>>143897686
serves you right futureproof shitter, so bad at gaes you try to pvp in a cutesy mmo, get fucked
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>>143905051
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>>143905954
I wish Weaver would come do tos art. It would be really cute.
>>
>>143903497
But Futureproof is Reddit. Unless /tosg/ already forgot about the spy who namedropped proof of FP members as redditors
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>>143897686
FP might be ded but we have Christina and Mari back.
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They really need to lower potion weight to 0.5. Not being able to carry more than a few just cucks me.
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>want eye colours
>IMC says no
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So is there a meetup before maintenance? What time exactly?
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Smite should really do the damage type of your equipped weapon.
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>>143906697
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>>143906806
>nothing is happening
>meetup
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>full run on dungeon 240
>get a pelt3>squire3 full con
>over 62k hp
>k
>"let me provoke and block for you guys"
>first time he does that his hp goes to 5k and he runs away
>sits and places a bonfire
>...
>through the entire dg he does at at least 5 more times
I hope ET isn't like that.
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>>143906568
Tfw I have 100 of each and stillat 40% carry weight
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>>143905051
It's a start, but the damage has already been done to this game, they really need to step their game up if they want any hope of this not being just a quick 2 week fling for most people.
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>>143906836
No, smite implies a strike, a blow, blunt damage. Not a thrust or a cut.
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>>143906806
Still a thread early
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>>143907056
it is, swordies are taunt and run meat shields while proper DPS aoe them to death. C-Man when they arent dealing with magic happy mobs
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>>143907257
So what time exactly?
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>>143905425
Get the map addon, for some reason "exploration" counts little squares outside the actual map towards the total % on some maps. It's incredibly retarded. It's that or run the entire edge of the map, every map, every time
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SQUIRE'S REALLY STRONG RIGHT NOW IMC JUST MADE A STEALTH PATCH THAT MADE ARREST'S ATTRIBUTE +50% DAMAGE ON ALL ARRESTED MOBS INSTEAD OF -50% PHYSICAL DEFENSE. MAKE A SQUIRE RIGHT NOW AND PASS ALL OF YOUR ET INTERVIEWS.
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So is this out yet? yes i've been under a rock for the most part

wat do
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>>143907562
Read the OP for starters.
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>>143907056
Its even worse, in ET pelt literally swashbuckle than run around in circles outside the barrier
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>>143907056
He should get better gear then. People keep falling for the "DEF/MDEF meme" meme.
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>>143907750
What people seem to think is that def is just a flat resistance when in reality its multiplicity depends on the map you're on.
Too bad none of this matters for ET or other high end content as even with full grynas plate (which mind you takes 10+ days worth of gimmick quests if you're lucky) you still get anally rekt if you stand there and hold c.
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>>143906806
>>143907446
Anonymous I understand your enthusiasm to ERP with faggots like yourself but meetups are usually announced by screenies or there will be a post mentioning it as soon as it start. If you have a /tosg/ related guild you might get an early message about it. I-In the meantime you can release your pent up sexual urges on me if you so desire.
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>>143908000
Miyutan please go.
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>>143905632
>This is what theorycrafters believe
>>
So I've just made my 5th mil here on varena without even having hit level 200 and without a jew class.
If anyone here on tosg is from varena, I seriously suggest you buy the cheapass recipes for like 4-5k than sell the made item for 100k+
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Sword / Pelta c2 / rodelero c2 / fencer is any good?
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>>143908308
It's ok
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>>143908000
sent ;)
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>>143906806
right after you kill yourself
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Swordie/Peltasta/HopliteC1, how do I get the attributes to wield two handed swords and spears?
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i hit 100, how to level fast now?
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>>143908819
Do quests fast. Kill mobs fast. Use cards fast.
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>>143908819
missions and dungeons
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>>143907525
filtered
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>>143908817

You don't get.

Two handed swords = highlander, barbarian and doppel.

Two handed spears = cata and dragoon.
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>>143908817
2h spears is from cataphract or wait till dragoon. 2h swords are from highlander/barbarian/doppelsoeldner.

On a spear build you shouldn't bother with 2h swords because Finestra can't be used with them. Stabbing and Pierce do work though if you decide to focus on 2h swords.
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>cross server matching actually works
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What's the #1 archer dps build to melt world bosses and get loot?
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>>143909314
rogue, steal other peoples elememe clouds
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>>143909314
Archer C2 - literally whatever - Fletcher C3
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>>143907056
You're most likely to do ET with people you like or trust, no autofinder and joining a pub is literal suicide
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>>143908115
not miyu
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>>143909314
Rouge definitely, steal a million Magic Arrows and Memeclouds
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>>143910536
>>143909314
Capture lets you steal allies spells?
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>>143910536
Does capture last between zones/logins?
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>>143909883
>>143909887
>>143910536
what kind of stats should i have then?
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>>143909883
>>143910536
>>143909314
>>143910672
Keep in mind Capture can only steal enemy or ally (party) magic tiles and traps. You'll need a very specific party composition to maximize its potential.
>>143910717
Not zones, no.
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>>143910492
Hot miyu!
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>>143879987
Do we have ANY new templars yet?
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>>143911029
Jaypee the lastest
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>>143911029
Do we need new ones?
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>>143910776

Rogue is a meme and requires a dedicated party to work, while fletcher lets you yolo solo like a Kirito of you have enough funding
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>>143911103
Varena desperately needs templars as does klai
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>>143880796
That's not /jp/ but /vg/tards.
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is the lag completely unbearable today or is it just me?
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>>143910492

Fuck off kusarihime.

>>143910908

Fuck off Miyu.
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>>143911207
what synergizes best with fletcher then?
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>>143911103
Seeing as every guild is full I would say there is demand for it.
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>>143911331
even if you are a disgusting Pinoy, why wouldn't you just play on Telsai and join Comfy?
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What the fuck is the point of programming enemies fleeing
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>>143911331
Anyone who makes a templar on klai will just get shitposted to death, moreso if he's in discord.
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>>143911551
They have lives too :^)
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>>143911390
>one day before maintenance
It's normal.
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>>143911556
What probably killed the enthusiasm for rolling a templar.
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>>143911551
Tree of Savior uses the latest and newest AI which replicates the consciousness of animals. Emotions, fear of death, and joy can all be expressed by mobs in this game. Every monster you brutally kill experiences pain that you can't even imagine. You would run too if you were going to die.
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>>143911551
>boss flees out of my aoe right at the start of the battle
ebin simbly eric
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>>143911556
>get shitposted to death
T-that sounds fine to me.
>a shitposting brigade will berate you and your guild at every waking moment until you ahegao
My literal fetish.
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>>143911475

Raw damage buffs, priests, thaum, krivis, maybe even a Pyro-sorc.
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>>143911946
Wow anon you are so strong.
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How should you stat a sword>pelt1>barb3>fencer?
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>>143912226
Roll a templar then.

>>143911556
I guess this is true.
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This is your tank tonight.
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Thoughts on this build please? http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/?reference=os62d4zjjw
I would like some advice on the unused skill points, and also on the progression. Whether to go into cryo 3 first, or get kino asap?
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>>143892236
>help a friend awaken his arde for free
>gets max value
>still full potential
>he'll prob go sell it for 2m now
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>>143912369
I'm going to suffer on the path of a squire build only to suffer even more when I obtain templar, I like this.
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which diev statue is better - teleport one or mana one?
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>>143912762
5 pillar and rolling
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>>143912342
120 str 75 con full meme dex is what I'm currently running.
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>>143912842
You don't really need to go squire-templar unless your guild is going gvg.
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>>143912889

The SP one is useless since everyone chugs condensed alch pots endgame and it doesn't make much difference.
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Is the market down or something? When I try to list things, it says it will be available after the second of June.
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Sadhu spotted!
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>>143912889
Both!
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>>143912753
RESURRECTION
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>Want to go mementalist
>But want sorc outfit
what do
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>>143912889
SP is okay to have. 1 point in tele for free warp and convenience. More if you have friends
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>>143912762
>5 reflect shield
>Gravity p-
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>>143913232
Make another character for sorc.
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>>143913076
F2P players have to wait 3 or 4 days till they can use the market.
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>>143913232
Give up your R7 for lewd!
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>>143913232
If you want a costume you MUST grab it, it's a rule!
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>there is still no rank 8
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>>143913232
Sorceress.
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>>143913545
>>>/v/
>>>/imgur/
>>>/twitter/
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>>143913367
Oh, lame.
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>>143913561
Living the dream
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>>143913232
Take sorc at r7, Warlock is only for bossing anyway
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>three months of joke patches
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>>143913318
It is a con based disable oriented build. Raise is the focus, gravity pole is just a bonus.
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>>143913854
You mean pvp.
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Getting close to needing to decide on my rank 5 for my Cryo3 -> x -> Necro2

>Linker
+Linker
+Futurepoof
+Acts as support for my summons, skeletons should work well with it
+More CC on top of Cryo3
-Linker
-So many fucking Linkers
-Semi-redundant with chistmas tree
-Won't use the costume

>Chrono
+This picture stays relevant
+Increase summon's crit
+Stop synergizes well with both Cryo3 and Necro2
+Reincarnate is good for missions
+Reincarnate is fun thematically for Necro
-Everyone will laugh at me for being a Chrono1
-I'll laugh at me for being a Chrono1
-Not Futureproof
-If there's a Chrono3 then it's nearly wasted in groups
-Will only wear the costume until I get the Necro one

>Sorc
+Army
+SP regen attribute
+I think Decay now increases the damage of Temple Shooter
-I don't like the SP drain
-I don't like the costume
-I don't think the cat buffs summons
-It's dumb
-Probably won't work well with Necro3
-Slut

Autism and video games.
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>>143913885
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=438
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>>143914064
Linker
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>>143914079
>patch goes live
>All images of 2fps Hoglan have been replaced with 3fps Hoglan
>I have blocked all 2fps Hoglan for a permanent period
>We thank you for your love and continued support of Tree of Savior
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>>143914064
Chrono!
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>>143914064
>dont pick linker
>can only ever get flesh cannon to hit a whole mob whenever frost pillar is up
The choice is pretty obvious.
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>>143914057
Why is warlock for pvp?
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>>143914064
why not thaum?
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I hope drawfags come back.
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>>143914415
>turn on dark theurge
>auto win against swordies
>can just run into people to kill them instead of trying to land a meme cloud everyone will walk out of
Pretty much the only class choice for an elememe if they want to be able to solo pvp at all.
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>>143914064

>linker
>futureproof
>already nerfed to uselessness
>only used endgame by people mistakenly following korean un-nerfed party meta
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1133aaee.23324555.16213a4865.1a213a41557182.11263a4a516171

How should I invest on stats?
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>>143914602
I hope you're going to have fun times soon!
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>>143913561
But that's an Alchemist.
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>>143914079
>we have increased FPS by 2.5 times
>shows picture of idle person in the middle of 10 monsters with no other players
I get fucking 200 fps in those situations senpai, show me some stress tests results
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>>143914706
invest on this dick
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>>143914792
Alchemists can be sorceresses.
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>>143914693
>makes the swordies and archiers in your party actually kind of useful
>useless
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>>143914064

Linker is the only choice, stop that chronomancer faggotry. Chrono is 3 or 0.
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>>143914706
120 con
Some str.
Dex dex dex.
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>>143914064
Why not psychokino?
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>>143914938
>swordies needing linker
>what is Circling
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>>143915345
>why not be completely useless
?
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>>143914627
>needing dark theurge to win vs swordies when you're an OP ranged class
>not winning 1v1 against level 90 swordies as a level 20 wiz
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>>143915425
A skill that doesn't reduce aoe defense ratio below 1, meaning swordies would still limited by their own attack ratio.
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>>143915614
>A skill that doesn't reduce aoe defense ratio below 1

This meme again. Can you post a source that isn't one single reddit post that misinterpreted the patch notes?
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>>143915154
3:1:1?
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Quick! Tell me what kind of patch or content would save this game!
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>>143915545
>I've never gone up against a catagoon
>I've never pvp'd with an elememe
>I've never even pvp'd at all and just spend my time theoryshitting off webms of shitters
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>>143886319
I wasn't being sarcastic when I said thank you, fampai but thanks once again. It really slapped me back my common sense in MMO metagames.
>>
>actually said I was going to quit yesterday
>today they talk about optimization patch that is rolling out during maintenance
I want to be free from this miserable nightmare.
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>>143915739
Even if it did, they would still be limited by their range, unlike joint penalty where you only need to hit 1 to hit all.
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>>143915614
Which is big enough already for swordies nd can be augmented by equips, you won't often run into a situation where not having linker is a huge deal breaker.

Most importantly, though: you're minmaxing a build for fucking HoneyBingo, dude just plays to have fun
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>>143915994
You absolutely don't know how the skills works.
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>>143915742
Bring all the korean cosmetics and events over

Some kind of guild shop on the towers for when you donate talt

Social spaces in towns such as parks and taverns with functioning furniture
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>>143916076
But that's not even the point of the argument. The topic is "what wizard class do I take to complement my build" and "falconer" is not a fucking answer.
>>
So this is how people get absurdly long play times in steam.
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>>143916126
I didn't know circling was a frost pillar that also reduced aoe defense ratio, sorry I take it all back.
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>>143916314
Sleeping gesture when?
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Is this the most futureproof Cleric build?
What spell should I max next?
At around what levels would I be useless?
What class should I take next?
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>>143915742
Remove neutrality
Remove guild war limitations
Give us some balance patches, remove the Swordsman nerf, they're definitely the "cool" class every Kirito wants to play and then sucking is driving a massive amount of the playerbase away
Make world boss timers random, anywhere from 30m to 6h.
Change world boss loot system. Top 6 players and their parties get cubes, top 10 parties get some token that they can exchange 3-1 for a cube or x-1 for a specific item from the boss.
Put Orsha back at 200+ (lol too late now)
Fix the lag and the FPS drops completely
Lower the experience XP cards give, increase the number of XP cards obtained from monster kill counts, and increase the XP gotten from killing monsters
Double monster spawn rate
Release all of the classes, ranks, and 280+ content

Off the top of my head
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>cleric 3

wtf reroll or go palaidn for maximum healing
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>>143915901
>about to quit
>IMC hypes up new update
>get disappointed at how it didn't live up to your expectations
>about to quit again
>IMC hypes up new content
>get disappointed at how it's a watered down version of the korean content
>IMC implements new cosmetics
>get disappointed after buying them
>IMC creates more cash grabs
>repeat until the game dies

>>143916485
She looks like she's doing some other activity if you know what I mean. I think she's pleasuring herself if you catch my drift. She is doing something other than sleeping if you follow my thoughts. She's servicing herself is what I'm trying to say.
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>somebody challenges me to a duel
>wreck him
>right as the duel finished, hoglan was in the middle of attacking him
>attack goes through after the duel is finished and he dies
FUCKING DECIMATED
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>>143916314
>kusarihime
liarsoft?
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>>143917031
>>kusarihime
Yep, you got it. The other day I got mistaken for Chain Princess, I suppose that's another way to interpret the name.
>>
More like shitposting erping avatarfagging hime
>>
>>143914235
>>143914378
>>143914693
>>143915117
How was Linker nerfed, was it just the aoe damage change in ktos? Mostly just concerned that with the christmas tree and Flesh Cannon's huge aoe and ratio it wouldn't be very useful.

>>143914353
I really like the synergy but Chrono1. It's a huge gamble for Necro3 too.

>>143914427
>>143915345
Thaum doesn't buff Necro summons and Kino1 just doesn't have enough for me to pick it, I considered it though.
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>>143917198
Kusohime.
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>>143917326
Rude.
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>>143917303
>How was Linker nerfed

Links break. Something something aoe damage.

>Thaum doesn't buff Necro summons

You mean the summons that get stuck along the way and you can't dismiss. That will never attack what you want? That will face the wrong direction when attacking something? Skeleton that will die while something jsut looks at them?

Sorry but Necro is fleshcannon only. Summons suck ass.
>>
Is the big cockatrice tail quest bugged? I haven't been able to find them on any of my characters
>>
>>143917303
>Flesh Cannon's huge aoe
>huge aoe
what?
>>
>>143917530
>necro summons suck ass
>he doesn't know about afk bee farming
>>
>>143917198
now i want to be friends with you.

are you a real deal liarsoft otaku?
>>
>>143917772
Or you could just buy the silver instead of wasting money on the electric bill.
>>
>doing sentry bailey kill counts

just kill me instead
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>>143917672
No. You just have to keep looking around the map until you find them.
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>>143917303
>>143917530

Linker on ktos: link 6 mobs, drop aoe, they all take 6x damage

Linker here on itos: link 6 mobs, drop aoe, they all take 2x damage capped (less than that really because of the way the cap interacts with meme daggers etc.)

Meanwhile you could have just taken circles for more aoe damage that hits more than you could link, or go thaum.
>>
>>143918139
>Linker here


Links break for no reason. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkDh7Dg6sr4
>>
Sell me a build /tosg/
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>>143918105
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>>143918372
LMAO
>>
>>143918286
Joint penalty has a hit limit on itos. Seems to be 10*skill from looking at the code but still needs in-game confirmation.
>>
>>143918310
Cleric 2 Diev 2 whatever you want over here
Snowflake AND near-universal affection!
>>
>>143918286
If only you knew why it breaks, it has some number of hits before it break.
>>
linker here
why do people call me stinker when i use physical link?
>>
>>143917814
_no
I don't have the qualifications to claim that I know their VNs well.
>>
>>143918310
Pelt3Squire2Templar
>>
>>143918310
Cryo3Chrono3
>>
>>143918372
I like the guy's reaction.
It's like he's more annoyed by it than anything else.
>>
>>143918456
>higher cd
>hit limit
>capped aoe damage

Why even pick this piece of shit class?


>>143918532
>it has some number of hits

Exactly. No one knew which amount though. 10* skill level makes sense and it sucks.
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>>143918568
>stinker
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>>143917872
Its much much cheaper to afk farm bees than buy silver form gold seller.
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>>143889758
I am going to the same path, but what is a snowflake?
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Which Falconer skills are good other than the required 5/5 circling?
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>>143918789
You pick it if you went pyro, sorc or necro, or as a c1 filler class for some shitty non cookie build.
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>>143918864
You are literally a snowflake if you build a cryomancer, but you're not a special snowflake.
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>>143919024

Except that single target shitter builds like qs3 heavily depend on this in ET. Literally every QS3 build is now non ET viable. And no, your 10s circling on a 35s CD won't fix this mess.
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>>143919130
I want be special!
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>>143919024
Linker 2/3 is good for wiz 3 featherfoot future build.
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How do you make fullscreen work? The game crashes on start if I set it to 0 in user.xml
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>>143919295
>archers
>ET viable at all
heh
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>>143919021
Call.

>>143919347
Yes, on ktos. See >>143918286
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>>143918864
Snowflakes are unique

In optimization, snowflake refers to a build that does not follow the usual standards and strategy for optimization. Because most folks will just use popular builds, you stand out from the crowd. Snowflake builds are rarely optimal if functional and as such it's a pejorative term.
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>>143919021
None of them are, that's the issue. Pheasents kind of a nice aoe knock down, hoverings okay for a 1 point skill, hovering could be good, if the damage was higher/lasted longer. But that's the case of all of falconers damage skills, the CD/SP cost for the damage done isnt worth using outside circling.
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>>143919347
>featherfoot
>good
>future
???
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>>143919457
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Why are there people desperately trying to defend IMC's TP prices in shout?

Why does this game even have fanbois?
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>>143917530
I like Skeletons. You think I'm playing this shitty game for challenging, well designed content?

>>143917675
I mean it's decently sized. I haven't played a lot of classes to compare it too. Just don't usually have trouble hitting everything I mean to.

>>143918139
>>143918456
>Hit limit

Okay, Chrono it is. Thanks for cementing that. I'll still consider Sorc but I highly doubt it.
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>>143919608
Its really good with thaumas swell/decay combo. You basicly kill any monster solo just by hitting once.
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>>143919792
>he thinks $9 subscriptions are overpriced
ebic meme
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>>143919838
>I like Skeletons

Cool. You won't see them much though since they now get stuck on invisible shit and will never move. But hey. Enjoy switching channels and summoning them again for 10 seconds until they get stuck again.
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>>143919947
The token prices are fine. Everything else is seriously overpriced

Try harder, fanboi.
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>>143918748
>Cryo3
My nigga
>chrono

Nigga status, revoked
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>>143919936
Or I could just roll memelock and kill everything faster and in a bigger aoe.
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Is this worth anything?
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>>143920024
Why would you ever care about cosmetic shit?
The only other useful premium item is enchant scrolls, and that's only 3 TP
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>>143919982
Is it the same as in ktos? I was happy with them in ktos.
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>no french VA to fencer skills

why
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>>143919838
>cryo3 chrono1 Necro2

KoenigBingo
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>>143919838
You're going to regret it.
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>>143920085
Memelock cant share stats.
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>>143920153
https://tos.neet.tv/skills/30503
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How do I get Hoplite C2? The quest needs me to show a level 6 spear or something like that?
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>>143919838

Don't go omg, linker's are still good and very useful for your pets. also, it helps meme cannon too since meme canon is not TRUE AOE like flame ground, hangmen's knot attribute aoe def reduction is amazing for this, also, party play.

stop is bad, quicken is bad even for skels, slow is meh, costume is even worse

ok, I was joking about the costume
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>>143920153
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA


Is this fucking real?
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>>143918139
>/tosg/ on Wizard3's 50% more damage for just you
>OMG +50% DAMAGE IS SOOOOOOO BROKEN FUTUREPROOF AS FUCK THERE ISN'T ANY BETTER USE OF THOSE TWO CIRCLES NOTHING IS MORE POWERFUL THAN +50% MAGIC DAMAGE ELEMEMEMEMEMETALIST IS THE BEST BUILD YOU CAN POSSIBLY DO UHHH STOP THEORYCRAFTING THANKS SEE YOU IN ET
>/tosg/ on Linker's 100% more damage for your entire team
>uh lol it's way better in ktos they take n times as much damage... and there's a hit cap equal to 10x skill level... its really garbage you could have gone for a damage class, even one aoe skill would outdamage that only 100% more damage link...
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>>143920482
>>/tosg/ on Linker's 100% more damage for your entire team


Links break on ET mobs after 20% while you still have 16s cd.
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>>143920024
The only things that are releveant cost 3tp and 99tp
The prices are fine you bandwagoner on the IMC hate train.

IMCompetent is very much imcompetent (e.g. the lag and delay) but that doesnt mean their cash shop is anywhere close to jew.
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>>143919542
Yeah, the issue with Falconer is that fucking EVERYTHING has a gigantic CD / no overheat for its damage / rank.

You're really stuck using it as a support class with Circling rather than a damage class like the game says you are. It's just like Hunter, only at least in that case the game's not lying.
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So, I was thinking of doing sword 3 pelt 1, x, fencer, and shinobi. What should x be? Someone last thread said they tried barb and it was pretty meh in the end. I could do hoplite and pick up stabbing even though finestra wouldn't work, or I was considering squire, but I don't know if squire has to buy things from their trainer or if they can even self-repair. Does anyone know?
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>>143920153
At the very least it is very useful to feed a normal gem for 7500 xp.
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>>143920198
It all works well together anon. What fun is the class system if you're going to cookie cutter?

>>143920242
I already regret playing again. The only other Wizard classes that seem interesting to me are Featherfoot, maybe Kino3, and potentially Mimic. Featherfoot and Mimic both have too many unknowns to even consider, and Kino3 is early enough that I would need to have more ranks released to consider it. I like Necro, Necro is actually fun. If Necro turns out to be shit I'll just use the character for afk silver farming and probably make a Cleric/wait for more ranks. This is all assuming I'm actually at all okay with the current late/endgame content which from what I hear about it, I won't be. More than likely I'm just going to get to Necro2 then play actually good video games until rank 8 releases anyway. If it doesn't release with actual content then I'll wait for that after getting to rank 8.

tl;dr: What are you competing for?
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>>143920370
It was you to refine a spear up to +6. Buy anvils from the item merchant and start upgrading. I hope you have money
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>>143920284
>caring about inferior party members
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/be-careful-with-beginners-pack-token-please-read-it/281658/32

What did he mean by this?
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>>143919542
>>143920676
Thanks for the insight.
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>>143920676
Atleast hunter does somewhat respectable dmg for its rank, even if none of it is AoE. Falconers damage is just so shit for its rank that its kind ofsad. The only half-decent skill in its pool is sonic strike, and that's alredy drawfed by the fact musketeer/canon shit all over it with 1 skill and the other R7 options have non-sucky C1/C2 skills to fall back on.

Its a shame cause i wanted to like hunter/falcon but gg IMC
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>>143920351
How do I search a monster gem by Skill name in this?
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>>143920580
a cryo3x1necro2 isn't going to make it in ET to begin with
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>>143920797
>What fun is the class system

lol

I have fun when I'm efficient not just pick some retarded choices.

>It all works together.

No. Nothing does.
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>>143900015
I KNEW THAT BARREL LOOKED SUSPICIOUS WHEN I CAME BACK FROM AFK

DELETE THIS
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>>143920797
>This is all assuming I'm actually at all okay with the current late/endgame content

You won't do endgame content at all with that build.
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>>143900015
What do Koenig's assets smell like?
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>>143920843
Thread moot because the packs will get removed anyway.
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>>143920808
Alright, thank you, though it took almost all my mone
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/imc-could-do-something-about-the-160-186-gap/283107

>Is the second character I got stuck in there...


>He didn't save his cards
>Twice
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>>143920991
Sure it does. Summons do passive damage while my cryo skills help to keep them alive and at maximum efficiency. Flesh Cannon works extremely well, I argue even better than Linker, with Frost Pillar. Flesh Cannon has a long enough cooldown that I can use all my Cryo stuff too. Chrono can be questionable in practice but on paper it works great with everything.

Pick the class you find fun then try to be most efficient in that class. This is how video games are best played. A beautiful fusion of autism and enjoyment.

>>143921152
Neither will you with this content
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That was fucking great.
I just met a diev that gathered mission bosses in the long hallway and used his owls there. He was soaking up all of the damage with safety circles and also had the most dps because both the mole and poata was aggro'd to him. The owls were doing over half of our damages combined, we had a non-diev cleric, an archer, and another wizard like me. I have a level 200+ character and I've never seen a diev before that executed this method. It's noteworthy that this was on a mission that I joined with my freshly made level 100 alt, I wasn't expecting anyone to be competent enough to kill the bosses so efficiently. The mission went by really fast, probably 5 minutes less than average.
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>>143916720
fuck off lolipan
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>>143921397
>Flesh Cannon works extremely well, I argue even better than Linker

You can't be this retarded.

Can't wait for the moment when you blame the game and not your retardation in class picking skills.
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What does "deployment magic" means?
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>>143920950
Poor Sonic Strike.

>6 hits of 2500 (basically 600% + 2500) on a 45s cooldown and you have to have taken Falconer last circle as well
>Musketeer has: 400%+6000, 300%+3000, and Covering Fire which I don't even want to calculate out, all on sub-30s cooldowns, and you only have to invest your R7 circle into it
>they're also first-circle skills so they scale further than Sonic Strike does if you choose to get the next circle

Seriously pathetic.
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>>143921516
>Linker links 5 dudes
>Frost Pillar pulls in all the dudes
>Cannon hits all the dudes regardless
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>>143921397

So I uh max lethargy so that an enemy kills my skeletons slower. This works better than anything else. I might as well get myself one rank of elementalist so I can stone curse the enemies so that my skeletons survive longer. This is literally the best synergy ever!

t. Bingo
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>be linker2chrono2
>get in a party with 4 archers 1 of them quarrel 3
>link running shot to everyone
>bosses die like crazy while everyone runs around really fast around me trying not to break the links

I just love archers
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So if I fuck up my build class-wise or point-wise do I need cash shop shit to respect or is it just lodsemone?
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>>143921614
set-and-forget aoes
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>>143921759
>>143921759
>>143921759
>>143921759
Migrate cutely
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>>143921718
>>Cannon hits all the dudes regardless
>value = [Character AoE Attack Ratio] + 5

https://tos.neet.tv/skills/20903

You are retarded to the max.
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>>143920697
>sword 3 pelt 1
do you really want to suffer this badly?
I mean you've got the 20+ hour wait time for the flower in shinobis quest along with farming 2.5% drops and you want to make it even more painful?
pelt 2 has more swashbuckling and high guard for pve tanking during grindgroups/dungeons/missions or corsair for flag pve + hook for pvp.
not that guy but I don't see anything wrong with barb 1 when it gives you free 50 crit rate and easier leveling
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>>143921812
Slut
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>>143921397
Follow your dreams, cutester!
Don't let the angryposter squad get you down!
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>>143921463
Suprised someone didnt pull it off or turn it around to knock them away like every other 100 mission with a diev ive been in usually goes.

>>143921648
My hope is theyll either nerf musket/canon, or theyll buff falconers dmg output wheher it be in lower the CD or raising the dmg. If the falcon auto-attacked akin to how the hunter pet is supposed to, except be good at it, i could accept the weak skills. But fucks sake my c1/2 hunter does more dmg with its skills than falcon does, its just pathetic for what coulda been a nice pet class, you know, like hunter.

C2 skill where you can pick up small/med targets making them airborne property never. Fuck you IMC
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>>143920965
Search the skill, then it will have a link to the monster gem
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>>143922114
Gonna keep that in mind for next time, thanks.
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>>143921926
>5

Okay you have a point. It was 18 on ktos. Didn't realize it changed.

>>143921997
If anything I'll do it out of spite. Video games are for fun and adventure.
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>>143922234
>I'll subject myself to suffering to spite you
have fun
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>>143922234
>If anything, I'll drag down my party members because someone from 4chan called me out on my stupid build
kys
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>>143921929
It's hopefully a group character with a would-be chaplain so my initial shittiness isn't as bad.
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fug why are pet classes so overpowered in pvp? all the cucklord has to do is run around while his minions kill me.
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>>143921483
It doesn't have his signature

double

spacing

though.
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>>143923193
fuck off avatarfagmo
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Uempai kampai
Urumpai kampai
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Thats twice today i've had a white mob drop nothing for me.
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