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>CK
http://www.creationkit.com/fallout4/index.php?title=Main_Page
>Fallout 4 General Information (Read Before Asking Questions)
http://pastebin.com/UkxVHYQB
>Vault Dweller's Survival Guide Links
http://pastebin.com/x1yeAmcP
>The Art of Fallout 4
https://mega.nz/#!vQkWVLpD!nBOiJBqgYriOJNkjU8OqxSFOfpKJHYWT6wZunopd6Fg
>Fallout 4 Item IDs
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J9quAMtGK70aptz0t5teqWHGZJ9T9uvJmzNEBJEB36Q/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true
>Fallout 4 Legendary Effects & IDs Guide
http://pastebin.com/qg0KhsCA
>Fallout 4 Settlement Mods & Information
http://pastebin.com/QJquVveh
>CBBE Links & Outfit Studio Guide
http://pastebin.com/GG0n8K62
>Fallout 4 Mods By /fog/ And/Or Removed from Nexus
http://pastebin.com/6kGZaPiy
>HELP! THE NEW PATCH BROKE MY MODS!
http://pastebin.com/dfRatvDc
>Fallout 3/NV
http://pastebin.com/wVAqLvCD
>Archive
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Pre-War Thread: >>143831252
waifus and lore living in harmony
Smelly Assaultron Ass
>>143876518
That would be nice...
BEST GFX MOD COMING THROUGH http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/3294/?
I'm having fun going through this dungeon. Something about its design and the encounters. Found a full suit of X01, too.
How would you want to see a revamp of the Gunners be done?
>>143877021
I wouldn't, since most revamp ideas usually end up being shit.
I don't know why people are sew ass blasted that not everyone in the game world wants to hold your dick for you while you take a piss.
Some people are just dicks who don't want to, and have no reason to, talk to you.
>>143877021
I just want to know who the fuck is hiring the Gunners and Talon Company
>>143877134
>Some people are just dicks who don't want to, and have no reason to, talk to you.
But that's most people in the game. There's nothing to do in Fallout 4 except clear out groups of raiders, mutants, and ghouls.
>>143877249
>There's nothing to do in Fallout 4 except clear out groups of raiders, mutants, and ghouls.
Except all those quests that have nothing to do with that stuff.
>>143877021
The fact that they shoot on sight is retarded
Make them seem more like a professional mercenary group that wasn't designed by a 12 year old
>>143877226
Apparently they're supposed to be a mercenary group that do take missions and kill targets for 'the right price" but they're literally just raiders who kill everyone for no reason, except with better weapons.
>>143877226
In Fallout 3, probably Tenpenny.
In Fallout 4, I dunno, Kellogg? He knows you're onto him so he tries to get someone to take care of you?
Big, big, big, big, BIG!
>>143877249
>But that's most people in the game.
Its almost like its a post-apocalyptic wasteland were only the strong survive or something!
>>143877340
so what, the prewar quests, coming out of the vault, and chasing kellogg?
every other quest has you going somewhere, killing everything, getting something then coming back for a pat on the head and the next questmarker leading to more of the same
How hard would it be to make a mod that makes fusion cores not automatically replace, and go down to 0% instead of disappearing, so you have to get out and manually replace the cores?
Would it be possible to add like a building you can place in settlements, that's just like a container you can chuck fusion cores into and it slowly adds charge to them? So you could put your 0% cores in there and come back in a few days to have some charged up ones?
Or the ability to craft two cores together to get one 0% core and one with the charge of the two you started with combined onto it?
Can you make it so you can apply mods directly to power armor frame?
I was thinking of something like a "hybrid" system, like how a car uses the friction of braking to charge the battery, make it so the basic version will take the inertia of falling and make it add a small amount of charge when you land, and then a more advanced version could recharge the core instead of draining it if you're just walking, not sneaking, running or sprinting, maybe even a super advanced version that adds gives you a bit of energy damage resistance and makes the frame absorb energy damage to use some to recharge the core.
Painting the frames could be a nice touch too.
I've really been wanting to make some mods for this game, but I have no idea how posible my ideas are.
>>143877340
>Except all those quests that have nothing to do with that stuff.
You mean all those quests that have you clearing out groups of raiders, mutants, and ghouls?
>>143877468
Is Fallout 4 your first Fallout?
>>143877226
Talon Company get hired by everyone from Tenpenny, to Littlehorn, to just random people with enough caps.
Similarly, The Gunners get hired by everyone from seedy wasteland merchants, to Jack Cabot, to Old Man stockton, people with money and back room connections to get a hold of them.
>let's shoot anyone who approaches that'll get us new contracts :D
>>143877021
Either give them a reason to be dickheads or limit their shoot-on-site shit to active operations. Give them an in-city presence, maybe integrate it with settlements, you get big enough and they come to either offer their services for a cost, get bigger than that and they send a rep whom you can take or turn away, if you keep him he uses the settlement as a base of operations, taking jobs for the gunners and paying you a dividend of the loot/caps.
>>143877645
D L C
Mercenary Workshop
>>143877468
I understand that Fallout 3 babies would misunderstand the Fallout series because they started with 3 and never played 1 and 2, so they thought it was supposed to be like that, but now that we've had New Vegas there's no excuse for this ignorance.
>>143877710
> but now that we've had New Vegas there's no excuse for this ignorance.
You mean the game were both Sawsyer and Avellone did everything in their power to destroy bot the Legion and NCR because both think the games were getting to civilized and advanced?
New vegas was literally Obsidian admitting they kinda got themselvs in a whole by making the NCr so large, so they magicked up an equally large rival, then gave both sides fundamental problems that will lead to their downfall, assuming one doesn't totally kill the other first
The entire purpose behind New Vegas was to show civilization ends up shitting itself, and to reset everything back to the way it was in Fallout 1/2.
anyone found out more about this?
really fucking odd thing to add
its in the second story of the ruined house furhter up the road from the red rocket gas station in far harbour
>>143877021
I think being able to hire them to protect settlements could be cool, like you pay them ~200 caps and you get a few extra guys patrolling a settlement for like a week.
Hell maybe just purchasable guards and provisioners if that's too complex.
Better warning signs around their outposts if they insist on shooting everything that gets within 100 feet, "gunners only, fuck off" or "no civilians, go [some other place] if you have business."
It's especially retarded too because Skyrim added a new NPC behavior where bandits and such would draw their weapons and tell you to back off from their territory before going hostile.
If you left they'd go back to whatever they were doing before, but if you didnt leave theyd attack
They'd remember you too, if you kept leaving and then returning they'd attack you on sight afterwards.
This behavior and lines for it are still in the game files if the CK is to be believed.
>>143877910
it's just a random out of place photo
there's one in crookback bog or whatever the name of the little island in the south is
>>143877903
There's a HUGE disparity between Fallout 4 and NV, 1, and 2 though.
>>143877710
What ignorance? Just because one area is thriving doesn't mean another should be thriving. We have people living in skyscrapers in the US and China, but in mud huts in Africa. The fact one exists does not mean another shouldn't?
Let's also point out that the major cities in Fallout 1/2 arose from either people emerging from Vaults with functioning GECKs or due to the actions of the player's character. In Fallout 3, only ONE Vault still had humans living in it and the main experiment for that Vault was for it to never open.
You're also forgetting that DC was decimated by Nuclear Strikes, whilst New Vegas suffered barely any damage thanks to Mr House.
I get you think NV > 3, but doesn't excuse your levels of autistic stupidness friend. :)
>>143878039
but whats it a picture of??
>>143877910
NUKA WORLD
>>143877903
Actually, they came up with Legion back in Van Buren.
>>143877656
>Either give them a reason to be dickheads
They have a reason, they have the largest guns, and in the wasteland, he who has the largest guns wins, and doesn't need to ask.
>or limit their shoot-on-site shit to active operations.
Gunners only shoot on sight if you approach one of tier larger bases like GNN and quincy.
Gunners in the smaller unmarked camps they have across the wasteland will frequently tell you to back off because its a restricted area in control of the Gunners.
>Give them an in-city presence
Except no one will allow them in except Goodneighbor.
>you get big enough and they come to either offer their services for a cost, get bigger than that and they send a rep whom you can take or turn away
They have no need for that when they can just attack you, take all your shit, and sell it.
>>143878098
probably some inside joke from Bethesda. Who cares
>>143878098
some random place, seems european but it may be an old area of the commonwealth
>>143877379
>>143877656
I'm always picturing the Gunners as a splintered faction with internal conflict, got synth infiltration from the Institute, recruiting from Raiders who have a hard time accepting the paramilitary discipline of the Gunners, so over time things have just broken down with them, a few guys stick to the old ways, a few still take jobs, and a few are just content to be raiders who rape and pillage.
Have a quest with some of the traditionalist gunners where you go out to either talk sense into or wipe out the more unruly gangs and try to reform the Gunners back to what they used to be.
>>143877993
Do you know where to find that? I'd love to get into making mods but the creation kit wiki is absolutely useless, how did people even figure this stuff out in the early days of modding?
>>143877910
Obviously just some dev fucking around with some shitty pic of his home town or something
>>143878147
>They have no need for that when they can just attack you, take all your shit, and sell it.
They clearly do since the Sole Survivor slaughters them in every engagement against them.
>>143878054
>There's a HUGE disparity between Fallout 4 and NV, 1, and 2 though.
Not really, outside of shady Sands and Vault city, both of whci hwere built by GECKs, most towns in Fallout 1/2 were people slumming in half ruined buildings with holes in their roofs and half collapsed walls, or in dinky shacks like Junktown.
Which is exactly how it is in Fo3 and NV.
Except the people in Fallout 3/4 have trade routes hundreds of miles long going all the way up and down the coast from The Commonwealth to the Broken Banks, and from Ronto to the Pitt to D.C.
They also show an ability to fix up and use boats for sea based trade, whereas in Fallout 1/2, and even NV, we hear of no such similar thing, and the repairing of the oil tanker to reach the enclave's base was considered an odd thing.
Any mods that add healing/illness variation survival?
>>143877993
They are still used in the game, see
>>143878147
>Gunners only shoot on sight if you approach one of tier larger bases like GNN and quincy.
>Gunners in the smaller unmarked camps they have across the wasteland will frequently tell you to back off because its a restricted area in control of the Gunners.
>>143876449
My game kept randomly crashing so I launched FO4Edit
What the fuck do I do with this.
>>143878376
>most towns in Fallout 1/2 were people slumming in half ruined buildings with holes in their roofs and half collapsed walls, or in dinky shacks like Junktown
I don't think you've played 1 or 2, because if you did you'd know they had thriving towns and cities. The condition of some of the buildings may be questionable, but they're still large towns with huge communities and trading. You've got places like the Hub, NCR, Jacob's Town, New Reno, Redding, ect.
These towns are much bigger and more dense than anything in Fallout 3 or 4, which is just tiny shanty towns.
>>143878805
Wow, just like Diamond City
>>143878948
Fuck off, Diamond City is tiny, it's just a small shanty town like Megaton. It's not even as big as Freeside.
>>143877710
>canon is this
>I'm gonna prove you wrong by claiming I don't care about canon
What a complete retard. I wonder how people like this even exist
>>143878805
>These towns are much bigger and more dense than anything in Fallout 3 or 4, which is just tiny shanty towns.
Are people really this retarded?
Let me break it down for you.
The area of land covered by games like Fallout 3, NV, and Fallout 4, is that of the area the Boneyard covers.
How many major settlements does the boneyard have? The Answer is 1, and that is the central Boneyard area itself.
Beyond that, it has an umber of far smaller communitys of 20-30 people each in outlying areas.
comparing the number of large towns in Fallout 1/2, to that of fo3 ,4, or even Nv, is retarded, because it ignores all the context behind how many area those games cover.
If you want to do an actual comparison between Fallout 1/2, and the newer Fallout games, it would be a comparisons between Reno, The Den, The Hub, and The boneyard, and that of the Capital Wasteland, The Commonwealth, The Pitt, Ronto, and The Broken Banks.
And from what we have seen of The Capital Wasteland, The Pitt, and the commonwealth, each has one large city, with numerous outlying settlements of only a few people, and large trade routes between them
Exactly like Fallout 1-2.
>>143879038
>freeside
that empty dump
>>143879038
Are we talking physically in the game? Or in lore? Because lorewise Diamond City and Rivert City were huge
>>143879704
t b q h familia I love the freeside motel, it's my favorite place in FNV
Why didn't bethesda include a voice slider to change the pitch?
>>143879704
>Empty
>As many NPC's as Diamond City
>More quests than Diamond City
Why do /fog/ think that shit-posting about New Vegas will somehow make Fallout 4 better?
>>143869030
i was until i found that http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/10465/?
did literally the same exact design as me
>>143879778
>Because lorewise Diamond City and Rivert City were huge
How huge could they possibly be? Unless in lore they're supposed to go beyond the borders of a baseball stadium and aircraft carrier there's a significant limit on how big they could be.
>>143879778
>Because lorewise Diamond City and Rivert City were huge
there is also this.
Fenway Park can seat over 37,000 people.
Obviously since people have homes and not chairs the number of people lving in-town would be smaller, but with the grounds, the stands, and the west stands, there could easily be several thousand people living in Diamond City in lore.
And given that Diamond city is over 100 years old, its basically impossible that there isn't
>>143879926
Why do /fog/ think that shit-posting about Fallout 4 will make anything better?
>>143879985
>there could easily be several thousand people living in Diamond City in lore
That's a hell of a stretch.
>>143880037
day /fog/ is one guy
its only one guy when its 3 am
>>143880037
>Legitimate complaint or criticism
>Shit-posting
Looks like Bethesdrones are the ones who can't handle the bantz after all :^)
>>143880056
>That's a hell of a stretch.
Not by any means, especially given that numerous NPCs mention how basically everyone in the commonwealth, which includes the entire state of Massachusetts beyond the game borders, has either lived in, or been in, Diamond City at one point or another.
>>143879953
Do you know how big Fenway Park and an Aicraft carrier are?
See this post for Fenway Park
>>143879985
And most US aircraft can carry a crew of 5,000. That number goes up when you remove all the planes and people living on the deck.
Try again kiddo
>>143880056
that dimond city is way out of scale
>>143879930
Scrap for the Scrap God?
>>143880201
>7 months of the exact same "legitimate criticism" over and over again
Cool
>complaint
If you have something to say to Bethesda about their game, go tell it to Bethesda in the appropriate place, complaining on /fog/ all day won't chance a single thing about the game or its sequels
>>143880250
>And most US aircraft can carry a crew of 5,000. That number goes up when you remove all the planes and people living on the deck.
There is this also
Though obviously the ship being broken, and the lower decks being infested with Miruelruks would lower that number.
Still, we are talking about a population that could easily reach 2-3 thousand
>>143880056
You do know that the NCR only has 700,000 people right?
>>143880636
Better not discuss Fallout 4 in the Fallout general.
Fuck you, even the Bethesda forums aren't this much of a fanboy hugbox.
>>143880667
if only
>>143880692
not him but, that was during the Fallout 2 times.
by New Vegas their population has probably reached close to 1 million.
>>143880667
every single one of you know that the reason this cool shit isn't in the game is because gamebyro can't handle it
and if you disagree with me you're a console babby
>>143877454
Mod?
>>143880843
>every single one of you know that the reason this cool shit isn't in the game is because gamebyro can't handle it
Actually the engine CAN handle it, as we saw with both Vivec City in Morrowind and The Imperial City in Oblivion.
They don't do it because people complained out the ass about both being too large, too difficult to navigate, and otherwise to big to be enjoyable to walk through.
>>143880843
>le engine meme
it's because bethy is a) incompetent and b) catering to consoles
>>143880882
neader made it himself i dont know if he has a download anywhere
>>143880978
Why do casuals insist on ruining everything?
>>143880840
So why is it fine to assume that all the cities/towns in Fallout 1/2 have high populations but not in 3/4 purely because you can't physically see it in game?
Here's let play a game with actuals facts, from the first two games most of the cities/towns had populations numbering in the hundreds OR a couple of thousand
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Vault_City_travel_log
>>143877542
>How hard would it be to make a mod that makes fusion cores not automatically replace, and go down to 0% instead of disappearing, so you have to get out and manually replace the cores?
Not terribly hard if you know how to do scripting. Idk why you'd want this tho.
>Would it be possible to add like a building you can place in settlements, that's just like a container you can chuck fusion cores into and it slowly adds charge to them?
Since there is no object in vanilla that does this, you would again need to write a script. Not difficult to do, if you know Papyrus.
>Or the ability to craft two cores together to get one 0% core and one with the charge of the two you started with combined onto it?
Not sure if this is possible even with scripting. You could allow two 0% cores to be combined into a single 100% core, this would just be a recipe like the chemistry or cooking recipes, no scripting required.
>Can you make it so you can apply mods directly to power armor frame?
There is already a mod for this on the Nexus. Also, take a look at the CROSS pre-war Cybernetics mod.
>>143880978
>Imperial City
You know each section was a separate area right and they didn't load at the same time? You know each section had between 20-30 NPCs right?
>>143880978
I will bet you that 90% of FO4's player population has never gone into the diamond city school, science! center, radio station, or guard house because it's too much of a hassle for them to walk all the way there past the (completely outside for ease of access) market and go inside
>>143877903
>The entire purpose behind New Vegas was to show civilization ends up shitting itself, and to reset everything back to the way it was in Fallout 1/2.
>he didn't back House
>he isn't living it up on Mars with a harem of robot waifus
>laughing_couriers.jpg
>>143881197
>So why is it fine to assume that all the cities/towns in Fallout 1/2 have high populations but not in 3/4 purely because you can't physically see it in game?
What? my entire point was counter to that idea
>>143880978
vivec city was cool but imperial city?
really?
imperial city has like 4 npcs and half of that number is guards that stand in 1 spot 24 hours a day
>>143881234
>Idk why you'd want this tho
Muh immersion
Imagine your core running out in the middle of a battle because you didn't have the foresight to put in a fresh one before going in.
Is Papyrus the language you use to make shit in CK? There's like no good documentation on how to use this shit.
>>143881819
That building in top picture looks awfully unstable. Who the fuck would put a store under it?
>>143881963
Much less build god damn treehouses on it.
>>143881963
the same people thatbuild houses inside of it and and live in those houses
>>143881963
Never mind the store, who the fuck would put living quarters ON it?
>>143881819
>half of that number is guards that stand in 1 spot 24 hours a day
Each guard in every city has his own patrol route. If you follow one, you'll see another guard come up to them and tell them their shift is over, then they'll go to the barracks. There, they'll eat, read a book or train, then go to sleep.
>>143879848
Cuz Mods would do it
>>143882093
this t b q h familia
with a few mods the thiefgame in oblivion is GOAT
>>143882093
yeah but did you see that mudcrab?
Well Automatron was shit, Far Harbor any good?
>>143882287
I like automaton more than far harbor t b q h
>>143881963
Same people who build a city around undetonated nuclear bomb
>>143881037
Tell him I hate him.
Anyone using Wasteland Imports?
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/3793/?
>>143881958
Well, you could just leave your spare cores at your base and take only one with you when you go out, rationalising it as "those extra cores can't be fitted without a proper Power Armor rig" or something.
Just don;t leave them in a vanilla container unless you enjoy reset bugs. I mean hey, robberies happen, maybe some Raiders stole your stash while you were away?
>>143882710
>Well, you could just leave your spare cores at your base and take only one with you when you go out, rationalising it as "those extra cores can't be fitted without a proper Power Armor rig" or something.
What?
>>143882404
Well that lowers my expectations more than I thought possible.
Starting to think this season pass was a mistake.
>>143882287
It's fucking baller. I'm loving the new beasties to hunt, and DAT LIGHTHOUSE makes a perfect base if you install the "Conquest" mod.
Nan-ni Shimasho-ka?
>>143882526
neander is a fine shitposter
but you should have seen him at his worstit was vaj stuff shit was nasty
>>143882620
Yes, it's good but the rarities need to be adjusted, I'm finding a lot of magazines.
>>143882847
If you want the immersion of not being able to change your power core without special equipment, just leave your spares back at base.
>>143882927
the noodles are godsend in survival
now give me the noodle teryaki man
>>143882927
yes
>>143882868
I'm not really in the mood to install mods.
Rarely do.
How's the world, it immersive?
The story?
Heard the dialogue options were much improved.
>>143878250
>I'm always picturing the Gunners as a splintered faction with internal conflict, got synth infiltration from the Institute, recruiting from Raiders who have a hard time accepting the paramilitary discipline of the Gunners, so over time things have just broken down with them, a few guys stick to the old ways, a few still take jobs, and a few are just content to be raiders who rape and pillage.
I see the Gunners as a remnant US Military unit like the BoS, except they never bothered with keeping up with tech maintenance. Like some national guard unit held up in a bunker for the 10-20 year long nuclear winter and then when they came out they were raiders with military trappings.
Being able to hire or take over the gunners would have been a nice option.
Why don't the people of Diamond City build anything in the stands? Like why only use the field, dugouts and boxes?
There's plenty of room up in the stands.
>>143883040
Nan-ni Shimasho-ka?
>>143883263
What?
>>143883019
>not being able to change your power core without special equipment
???
Nah nigga, I'm just saying you should have to get out of your armor and manually change your core, or like be able to command a companion to change it for you, it shouldn't just happen automatically.
>>143883214
>I see the Gunners as a remnant US Military unit l
This. I don't see them as paramilitary but as actual military, albeit a brutal and mercenary military.
>>143883229
I feel like Bethesda wanted to do that (and NPCs eve act like they do) but then they said fuck it no one's going to spend time there anyway so scrap it
>>143883229
>Why don't the people of Diamond City build anything in the stands? Like why only use the field, dugouts and boxes?
Because stands being stands, are staggered, and thus it would take a lot more effort to build on the zig zagy nature of the stand then the flat field
>>143883229
This bugged me, too. Use that field for growing crops, don't build shacks there and leave the goddamn stands empty, wtf Diamond City.
>>143883263
yes pour the noodle on me teriaki man dezu
>>143878119
Legion was just a small all male raider band in Van Buren, they were paired with an all female raider gang based out of a vault/biolab lead by a robobrain.
Main antagonist in Van Buren was a NCR general going full Enclave, going into space and trying to nuke the planet from orbit.
>>143883543
>>143883663
>implying post war people have access to all the building tools and materials to do that effectively
>>143883663
Yeh, do you know how wide stands are? They can fit an arse; that's it.
>>143883773
Why wouldn't they, it's been 200 fucking years, make your own tools numbnuts.
>>143883853
>make your own tools numbnuts.
Because everyone has access to the high grade machinery needed to make that level of tools.
remember, The Pitt has the only known fully function steel mill the BoS ever encountered in their cross country journey.
>tfw an enemy is so much higher level than you that your only way to survive against it is blow out its arms and legs
>>143879447
>in order to make the comparison fair, you have to compare one city in the old fallouts to an entire worldspace in the new fallouts!
>>143879704
>houses two factions
>a casino
>about a dozen quests
>more npcs than diamond city
Mod idea -
Integrate the caravan system into a "complete objectve" system. Once settlements reach a certain size (say, 2 or more settlements with 20 pop) raiders/gunners/other gangs send a person to speak with you.
From this you can "hire" units of each gang to complete clear___ from ___ quests, aswell as fetch quests for a price. The unit would move out like a caravan so you could follow and take part if you wanted to.
>>143877645
>player drowning in caps and purified water
>player is leader of largest faction on the map
>mercenary unit would rather shoot at player (and die) than accept a cart load of caps and purified water for mercenary contracts to deal with "an other settlement needs your help" quests.
>>143883773
All you'd have to do is figure out an effective way to create supports with the concrete base. How hard can it be
>>143884128
Actually the argument is, to make the comparison fair, you have to compare one city to one city.
LA -> D.C.
San Fran -> Boston
Reno -> The Pitt
>>143884005
Yeah, I mean there's only ALL SORTS OF FACTORIES across New England.
There's absolutely no way anybody could EVER restore one to working order.
And there's no "that level of tool" people built some of the grandest and most complex buildings known to man with nothing more than wooden scaffolding, block and tackle cranes and basic blacksmithing.
Make a mine, get some ore, or melt down scrap for metal because it's fucking everywhere, make a wood-burning forge, use a bit of railroad track as an anvil, get your lazy ass to work.
>The Pitt has the only known fully function steel mill the BoS ever encountered in their cross country journey
Which is fucking stupid.
Also the Forged have gotten their foundry working fine.
>>143884250
There is more than a bit of bad blood between the minutemen and the gunners.
any mods that get rid of the banal story and makes it not dogshit?
>>143883804
No, they fit a LOT of arses together in a row with room for people to walk in front of them.
>>143884389
>Also the Forged have gotten their foundry working fine.
Everyone time someone says this I wonder if the yare retarded.
Where did you ever see the Ironworks fully operational in-game?
The answer is never, being able to get the furnaces active =/= all the tiny complex motors that move everything work, which is why all of them are static.
The only functional factory in The Commonwealth is the Machinist's robobrain facility.
>>143884371
but that's wrong, because "D.C." as a city does not exist in Fallout. It is simply a geographical region. It doesn't function as a city, have one population, infrastructure, anything. It's mostly ruins
Same with boston
megaton and diamond city and rivet city are the cities in fallout 3/4, not "boston" or "dc," those are now just subsections of the wasteland
>>143884242
>more npcs than diamond city
What he said wasn't true but this is false.
>>143884371
>San Fran -> Boston
San fran wasn't bigger than entire Boston though
>>143883150
The story is pretty good
The stands wouldn't support the weight of homes on them anyway
The better question is why they aren't tearing the stands down for parts and building where they stood
>>143884576
Are you missing the point on purpose?
>>143884624
alright, sorry, 47-45 in favor of diamond city
Are there any mods for the classic armored vault suit yet? They nailed the actual Vault suit itself, but I'm missing the iconic Mad Max shoulderpad.
>>143884576
> It is simply a geographical region
You mean like how the boneyard encompassed all of the LA ruins, even the parts people weren't living in?
Same with San Fran, the Shi lived in one part, the Hubologists in another, but the entire city was still called San Fran, and it encompassed not only the Shi and the Hubologists, but also all the small groups of people living in other parts of the ruins.
>>143884556
Some raiders got a brewery working.
>>143884867
a Brewery isnt exactly as complex of a thing as a steel factory.
>>143884128
The geographic area of FO3 is roughly the size of a SINGLE square on FO1's map
See how much of FO1's map is fucking empty wasteland?
>>143885027
>>143884867
>>143884556
>the forged ironworks doesn't work
so what
Slag and the other Forged, that's all theatrics?
>>143885082
Not him, but Fallout 1's map always made me laugh because you can see the ruins of Vegas on it, then Fallout 2 came along and rectoned Vault 15, 13, and the NCR much farther west.
>>143885027
It was a bit of a tangent I just felt like it should be mentioned.
>>143885120
What does the brewery have to do with the forged?
>>143885027
>>143884556
They can still melt metal with it, that's all that really matters.
You can melt down scrap and process it with ease with furnaces of that size, you just have to do it by hand.
I got wasteland 2 what am I in for?
>>143885120
>Slag and the other Forged, that's all theatrics?
Uhh yes?
Where did you get the idea it was anything but that?
Where were you when you discovered Survival was just tedious shit?
>>143885241
A pretty shitty experience which is apparent as early as the character customization
>>143885241
At long last, a proper sequel to Fallout 1
>>143885241
Why don't you just play it?
Why ask for opinions after you got the game?
i need a way to get more easier settlement resources...
>>143885319
lol
>>143885512
Buy them
Cheat
Use conquest and make temporary scrapcamps
>>143885319
They should have added achievement for it. the only thing that would make me finish it
>>143885319
>journey
>survival quicksave
Ta-da, the only tedious shit is now taken care of.
>>143885319
The same place you were when you decided that your opinion wasn't universal.
I really like Fallout: New Vegas. Having a lot of fun with my current playthrough. You guys have any mods to suggest?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G9tKkTKs6Q
>>143885706
>Journey
>reappearing item in inventory
What's the best way to save Kent on the Silver Shroud quest? I've tried a couple of times, but I don't think I do enough damage to kill them before they kill him.
>>143885082
>tfw too casual to enjoy FO1 and 2
It's a shame, because the quests and variety of shit you can do seem amazing.
>>143885241
A shit game
>>143886240
If you're going to, do Fallout 2 it has everything F1 has and more without time limit
>>143886402
Any beginner tips to make it more bearable early on?
why is the nexus so laggy
are the console kiddies ddosing it because its '''''stealing muh mods''''''''
Heres a map of the northern east coast with known trade/travel routes between the various wasteland.
The actual path of the route may vary, but the lines just indicate we know they are connected in some way
>>143886537
>>143886402
Don't listen to that fag. Play Fallout 1 first. It's a much more compact, linear experience than the second game. The time limit barely matters unless you're DSP tier bad.
And as for advice, just look up a PDF of the manual and give it a read. If you're playing the Steam version there's a hotkey that shows you what everything means/does.
>>143885512
Put everything into water purifiers, mass produce water. Sell water for resources.
Capture new settlements but don't build anything, just scrap everything and haul away the contents.
Use a larger scrap/settlement range mod.
>>143882287
What aren't you liking about automatron? I'm not finished yet but it's been fun.
Just finished upgrading MoRBB (mobile robotic battle buddy)
Help me. In Concord the museum disappears over time as I fight the deathclaw. The mesh turns completely transparent and I can see the void under it and beyond.
Also walking from one end of Concord to the other sometimes causes the screen to darken, the loading symbol appears in the corner, and I have to actually wait a few minutes in game for it to load like its Morrowind.
Why is this happening?
>>143886603
>le ronto = toronto, ontario meme
>>143886603
yeah but didn't Ronto get glassed in mothership zeta?
>>143886879
Can they get into vertibirds if you have the Handy thruster?
>>143887072
>Implying Ronto isn't Toronto when Bethesda loves their shitty name puns like the Pitt = Pittsburgh
>>143886879
nice robutt
>>143887125
Given that you dont have to fire the laser at Toronto in MZ, the answer is likely no.
Bethesda never makes mass destruction shit like that canon, especially when its 100% optional.
Rate my ENB.
>>143887134
Not just Bethesda.
>>143887437
The only time I can think of OBsidian doing it is with Big MT = Big Empty
Most of their towns are just named after the actual town... besides Nvoac.
>>143887131
Can they take fall damage?
>>143887437
novac was bethesda's idea, josh "based god" sawyer would never come up with something so silly
Who /NeverGonnaFindAPip-BoyForADecentPrice/ here?
>oh no, after sleeping for 8 hours I have become lethargic
>better take some antibiotics to cure this lethargy
Playing on pc for the first time and when I move my character, it doesn't feel like he walks, it's more like he slides. Like piloting a blimp, or almost like the controls feel greasy.
Is this something to do with some mods I might have installed, or is this a thing people have noticed, and is there a fix/mod for it?
>>143878553
i still need help with this
If someone like Bethesda or OBsidian were going to do a trilogy of Fallout games set in the south, what are the chances the three cities they would pick would be
-Miami
-New Orleans
-Nashville
theres really not much else of note city wise down in the south besides those three, excluding Texas cities
>>143884054
But that's one of the best parts of the game. Not so tough now, Mr Supermutant Overlord, now you've got no legs or arms you cheeky fucker.
On a related note, missile launcher with the limb crippling legendary mod is the best weapon, hands down.
>>143887696
Not me.
>>143887696
I'm /NeverGonnaGiveAShitAboutSomeShittyPlastic/.
Any recommendation for a water manufacturing base? I'd like an area I can put walls around and easily defend. Said water plant will be my residence also.
Fighting over the remains of NYC when? Maxson mentions flying over towns with skyscrapers so large the Prydwen had pull up to fit over them.
>nexus
>>143888358
I did the traditional concrete wall around that area of sanctuary near the bridge and put 5 industrial water purifiers there.
>>143888685
Maxson doesn't mention that, a holotape of a female BoS soldier mentions it.
Also, said solider never mentions the Prydwen had to pull up to avoid them, only that they were tall enough to possibly clip it.
Also, the likelyhood of a NYC game is slim. As much as
>LE ENGINE!
is used as a meme, even with the advancements in dense city scapes the Fo4 engine brought, NYC is still far beyond it.
I think even Bethesda has realized that, which is why no one in Fo3 or Fallout 4 mentions NYc as being any sort of interesting hub of civilization along the east coast.
NYC and Philly have largely been treated as "those dumps full of raiders and shit" that no one cares about.
>>143888685
Why would anyone with intentions of rebuilding would NYC? It's just ruins.
>>143888358
How much water do you need?
If you only need a few water purifiers and want them inside the wall you could do the drive Starlight Drive-In.
Spectacle Island works too.
>>143886879
You're robut is dumb and you should feel dumb
>>143888924
To be fair, Philly is already a dump full of raiders and shit.
>>143888806
Hmm. Perhaps I'll build it up like that. Thank you, anon.
>>143884445
>any mods that get rid of the banal story
No, that's set in stone. Boston's Revolutionary War nation building and Boston's Underground Railroad Civil War slavery.
You will not see this happen again in another historic city like Chicago or Atlanta.
Far Harbor shows the direction that FO5 would have to go.
A town like Hannibal Missouri with steamboat trips to Lookout Point/Far Harbor/locations TBD that would be multiple DLC's ion one package.
No Florida, but a trip to New Orleans would be possible, or a trip to Kansas City Missouri, or other places.
use faceripper with Buffscale's save they said
>>143887003
Your gfx card is shitting itself. Turn down the settings or buy a better one.
>>143887072
>>143886603
>>143887134
"Ronto" feels wrong as a shortening for Toronto. I could see "Tronto", or "Toront/d" or even "Tront/d", but losing that initial T just isn't a likely evolution.
>>143889205
Well, Fallout 3 did set up someplace called "The Broken Banks" as being a place of note, mentioned alongside The Commonwealth and the Pitt as a major trade stop along the coast.
I've see speculation it could be anywhere from Savannah Georgia, to Charleston South Carolina, to the Outer Banks in North Carolina.
That would surely give the sort of Point Lookout/Far Harbor style of environment.
>>143888013
Wear some Power Armor, it gives your character more "bounce" when he walks.
>>143889264
Tonto could work I couldjump on it, jump on it, jump on it
>>143889213
She gets more beautiful every day.
Trying to build a detective agency for Nick and myself to chill and play pretend in, what spot do you guys reckon would be the best for that? My first choice was hangman's Alley but after spending like two hours there, it was actually really hard to make. It was too cramped.
>>143885305
>>Slag and the other Forged, that's all theatrics?
>Uhh yes?
>Where did you get the idea it was anything but that?
No metal poured, no rolling mill to make railroad rails, no iron/steel ingots being collected to ship anywhere, and no output from the factory.
>>143889525
Maybe, tho I think the lost r would drag that first o into an a, so Tanto would be more likely.
>verify cache
>it resets all my graphic settings
>resets all my sound settings
Why the fuck is this a thing?
>>143889724
Get the mod that lets you place items when they're red and build a glorious mutlistory detective shack in Hangman's Alley. The central location is very important for your business's success.
>>143890063
verify cahce is used to make sure all the files are there.
the only way it can do that is to make sure all the files match up in size.
editing the setting causes the size to change
thus it re-downloads those files, resetting them, to make sure all the files are there and not broken for whatever reason
I'm almost convinced to do a Crusader of Atom playthrough, guys. Help me the rest of the way. Is the Atom's Judgment good enough to justify converting to Atom?
>>143889264
I just bought this 4GB GTX 960. I'll just turn down to base clocks and make it prioritize GPU temps
>>143876449
>>143882287
Yo waddup I am trading pic related to get Far harbor DLC
Keep trading fair
SteamID: Thetrueduane
>>143890226
It is with the Kiloton Rifle and the neat hat. Honestly on my current playthough I'm making peace between the Children and Fah Hahbah then I'm sicking the Brotherhood on Dick In My Ass
>>143890226
Max STR and END, Cannibalism only, final destination.
>>143890416
Forgot pic soz
>>143890556
What about Ghoulish and Radiation Resistance? Can hardly call myself an Atomite if I can't handle a few rads.
>>143888013
That's how every Bethesda game feels for me. Skyrim had a decent physics mod
>>143888685
>Fighting over the remains of NYC when?
Travel to Central Park and do what?
More Boston/Capitol Wasteland tunnels?
More skyscrapers infested with Super Mutants and Feral Ghouls?
What will New York have that hasn't been done to death?
>>143890692
All the high-end END perks are good, Solar Powered the most so. TREMBLE BEFORE THE GLARE OF ATOM, INFIDELS! THE FIRES OF JUDGEMENT ARE UPON YOU!
>>143888924
We also have to consider that even if they did a Fallout 1/2 style map, we would still need like 20 games to cover all of America.
Now that Fallout games onl cover one city + surroundings, it would take even more.
It really becomes a thing where the devs have to pick their battles.
They have to take into consideration shit like size of the city, distance from a previously used city, how the cultures are in those cities, and other factors when determining if they should use that city or not.
This is likely we we got D.C., Boston, Pittsburgh, and Ronto as the major post war cities of the upper east coast, while other large citites like Philly and NYC got put to the way size.
D.C., Boston, and Toronto are all roughly equal distance from each other, giving the devs plenty of room to use for DLC, and since other nearby major/minor cities share a mostly similar culture, they can cover a lot of the culture of those cities in the city they are already using.
We can sort of see this in New Vegas as well. According to New Vegas, Salt Lake City was entirely leveled by nukes, and Denver was abandoned by people and overun by dogs in packs so thick not even The Legion could conquer them.
They are treated as "why they are there, but not interesting" as a way ti tell people about the state of those large cities, without actually needing to set a game there.
We can also see this in places OBsidian said they would want to set another Fallout game, those places being LA, San Fran, and New Orleans.
No one suggested Denver, or SLC, because they lack the sort of interesting cultures needed to make them game worthy.
>>143890737
I'm not an Americlap so I don't know American geography too well, but I was surprised at how close New York was to Boston. Gow come it's as though it doesn't exist? No one has ever mentioned it in the game. Unless I missed it?
>>143891028
Not the person you are responding to, but see
>>143890873
As to the likely reason why NYC is treated as being unimportant
I want Fallout London. A civilisation under the ground living in the old subway system, run by an utterly inept and outright bonkers robot bureaucracy, the terrifying mutant Wombles of Wimbeldon Common, the long-forgotten bunker under the Buckingham Palace Crater, the Millennium Dome as a settlement and the Thames Barrier as the central maguffin: Will you save London or drown it?
>>143891102
>>143891028
Brotherhood probably flew over it on their way to Boston, one of their terminals mentions passing mutant-infested cities with buildings tall enough to scrape the bottom of the Prydwen.
Could have been Philly too.
Will Fallout go back to it's RPG roots OR will it become a lesser Mass Effect-like shooter?Fixed.
>>143891273
Well Fallout 4 sold a bazillion copies so yes.
>>143891364
>A or B?
>yes
>>143891273
It's never going back, Fallout 4 was a massive hit.
Expect Fallout 5 to basically be Mass Effect: Post Apocalypse Edition.
I'd love for them to license another company to do a cRPG spin-off but apparantly it's not on the cards.
>>143891467
Deal with it.
>>143891467good taste
>>143891467
If you can't work out which option he's refering too you're clinically retarded.
>>143889264
i think it kind of makes sense
the accent in Toronto is on the second syllable, and going from Toronto to Ronto would be an example of apheresis (which is when an unstressed syllable is dropped to make a word easier to say)
it requires a lot of oral gymnastics go from the /t/ to the /r/ in the tor part of toronto, even with the schwa (the kind of "uh" sound) in between them
/t/ sounds are actually dropped a lot because they require a lot of effort, comparatively speaking
moving from the /r/ to the /n/ in RONto is easier because the o gets your mouth closer to the shape you need for the /n/
and the /t/ in ronTo can easily slide to a glottal stop (which is when a T sound kind of turns into a d-ish sound, like in the phrase "fuh geddaboudit)
the easier something is to say, the more likely it will be saidi'm sorry for talking out my ass like this. if anyone else has any more linguistics knowledge please chime in
>>143889018
Don't bully MoRBB, he is a good robo
>>143891273
Neither.
>>143891263
>mutant-infested cities
For fuck sake when will Bethesda stop using Mutants as thier go-to for generic enemy. It doesn't even make sense for Super Mutants to be so widespread.
>>143891776
MoRBB still needs legs, anon.
Anyone else disappointed by the lack of a final boss for the main story? For fuck's sake, the last room in Saugus Ironworks was more atmospheric than the Institute or BoS in their respective last quests
>>143891776
It's not his fault he was made by a dumb-dumb.
>>143891172
>not wanting generic American city with a grid layout and suburbs #14
>>143891894
Brand recognition.
We'll have to deal with this shit now.
>>143891894
Not him, but not all mutants are super mutants.
Mutant include anything including shit like trogs, to even many raiders.
Unless they say super mutants, and they didn't in the holotape in question, they are just referring to the average post-war mutant creature/person
> It doesn't even make sense for Super Mutants to be so widespread.
Except super mtuants were spread all across California and the Midwest in Fallout 2/Tactics.
Bethesda's super mutants are significantly LESS spread out compared to west coast ones.
>>143891776
Can I fuck his thruster?
>>143891894
Eh, FO3 established that FEV was used at more than one site. It's dumb that they all seem to have the same culture, I'd love to see themed tribes of Super Mutants, something like the tribes of Crossed that wear people's faces, or cosplay as priests and nuns, or whatever.
>>143891172
>Join the Bing Bongingtons as they restore Big Ben to its former glory
>>143891028
>how close New York was to Boston
New York City is Manhattan Island and all buildings, no green spaces except Central Park. People commute for work and go home after.
Unless you want to start a salvage company tearing down buildings for stone, steel and rubble you're not going to be able to rebuild anything other than a port outpost as there are damaged towns everywhere.
It would be nice is the Library had books but Boston had nothing.
>>143892139
East coast super mutants seem more successful.
>>143892090
He's a big robut.
>>143892139
>It's dumb that they all seem to have the same culture
Its indirectly implied that the Institute got its FEV from Vault 81, since they didn't have it when they were founded, and only got it post war.
Also, the similarity in development, such as Behemoths, also suggests its a altered version of the 81 strain
>>143892189
>New York City is Manhattan Island
I hope you are referring to in theoretical game and not IRL....
>>143892338
>Vault 81
87, my bad
>>143892264
I've had bigger.
>>143881026
It's mostly the shitty thing and the Engine, they could do it on consoles as well if it wasn't the shit engine.
Yeah they can keep it and do it on PC in that shitty engine probably, but imagine what could be done if they actually didn't use a decade, going on decade and a half actually engine?
>>143892167
That's the ticket! They could really let the sillyness out of the bag, Fallout is a pretty goofy setting and dystopian Bongland has a tonne of tropes waiting to be mined.
Laser musket or hunting rifle for sniping?
I think I might keep my laser musket because I have more fusion cores, but it uses two ammo per shot to do more damage than the hunting rifle.
Also for some nonsensical reason the rifle is heavier
>short barrelled bolt action rifle made from scraps
>2.4 lbs
>short barreled bolt action rifle made by a real gunsmith
>13 lbs
?
>>143892496
>but imagine what could be done if they actually didn't use a decade, going on decade and a half actually engine?
This is a retarded line of thought as it ignores the fact shit like Unreal is older, and still being used.
>>143891894
>For fuck sake when will Bethesda stop using Mutants as thier go-to for generic enemy.
It's the HOLY LORE you heretic, every Fallout MUST have Ghouls, Super Mutants Deathclaws and Power Armor.
>>143892139
Same here.
It's okay for Bethesda to "FEV EVERYWHERE! SUPERMUTANTS EVERYWHERE!" if they put some god damn variety to them.
And why are Super Mutants in Bethesda games incapable of any form of civilisation?
Sure, the dumb-dumbs are more aggressive, but even in Fallout 1 and 2 they managed to live in cities and everything, they weren't all raiders.
There is like two friendly SMs in Fallout 4 and they basically contrast with the amount of unfriendly SMs.
But the East Coast SMs are just generic enemies rather than big hulking mutated people.
>>143892590
Caesar's legion setting where technology is less common when?
>>143892241
Yeah but they're dumb. Which kind of begs the question of HOW they're doing so well, but w/e.
>>143892338
Yes but the genie is out of the bottle, so to speak. Even the Institute has got it's hands on some, while it may have been unique to Vault 81 in FO1 and 2, it seems more widely dispersed based on the recent Fallouts, especially 4 where I don't think there even exists a facility for making more Mutants at all.
>>143892753
Factions:
Caesar's legion
likeable tribe
>>143892474
Was it painful?
>Got game 2 weeks ago.
>Bored already
Know any mods that make this shit more fun?
I don't get if it's porn anymore I just need something to pass the time.
>>143892753
Caesar's Legion spin-off where you control Caesar and Joshua in the early days of the Legion FUCKING WHEN?
>>143892713
>And why are Super Mutants in Bethesda games incapable of any form of civilisation?
Play Fallout 3 you numbskull.
The FEV used in Vault 87 was a gas based version that caused large scale mutation in a short period of time.
Fawkes explains the sheer pain of having your body mutate so quickly drives basically everyone insane.
The Master's FEV used liquid tanks, and involved a slower immersion process that did changes over time, and thus, it was less traumatic on the person's mind.
Also, east coast super mutants do have civilization. They have their own bases, know how to build and maintain defense, know how to take care of highly advanced weapons like laser weapons, and, according to Fawkes, they have their own culture where everyone shares everything in an idealized form form of communism. they just hate humans for making them, so they try to kill them.
>>143892512
Missile Launcher.
>People complain that Bethesda's super mutants are everywhere
>West Coast super mutants exist in far more places spanning most of California, and large parts of the Midwest.
BUT ITS OK WHEN INTERPLAY/BLACK ISLE/OBSIDIAN DOES IT!
>>143893093
>play fallout 3
One time was enough. I'm still recovering my brain cells.
And that is a very poor excuse for why the SMs are generic enemies.
In Fallout 2 they even lived in a city.
>>143891273
Bethesda has been listening to the community more
So yes
>>143893317
>In Fallout 2 they even lived in a city.
And in Fallout 3 they have Vault 87 as a home base, and in Fallout 4 they have converted Trinity Tower into their main stronghold with a recognized leader, Fist.
>>143893445
They're raiders, though.
And yes, I do know that in Bethesda's Fallout human raiders are 99% of human population too.
Why do you think Bethesda feels the need to explain the backstory of the main character so much? NV's courier where you're literally thrown into the game is way better
It's a trend in Hollywood as well where a 1.5h movie feels the need to explain the entire life of the main character
>>143893546
>And yes, I do know that in Bethesda's Fallout human raiders are 99% of human population too.
Except they aren't but w/e.
>They're raiders, though.
Wow, a race driven to near insanity by humans hates and attack humanity in revenge for being made?
How fucking suppressing.
>>143891172
>I want Fallout London.
So does Many A True Nerd
Fallout 4 - 30 Things I Want To See
He got most of the changes he wished for but not a London DLC. yet.
>>143893562
>Why do you think Bethesda feels the need to explain the backstory of the main character so much?
Because thats been the case of every Fallout game except New Vegas.
Its literally the tradition in Fallout to have a pre-established life/backstory/friends/family to serve as a motivation to do the MQ.
http://imgur.com/a/A2z6u
HE DID IT AGAIN
>>143893562
>It's a trend in Hollywood as well where a 1.5h movie feels the need to explain the entire life of the main character
Its almost like people want a character who has an actual life so that they can relate to said character and actually feel sympathy of what the character is going through.
Otherwise you end up with a movie where you don't care, and only watch to see the MC kill shit.
Ironically enough, even Sawyer admitted the player had little to no reason to go after Benny in NV. The leader writer even admitted the ttoal blank slate was a narrative flaw of the game.
>>143894078
>that level of retardation
>Try to make vault-tech guy go away at start of game
>Wife makes me talk to him
>Game continues as normal
Shoulda know.
The funniest was when I shot my son and the game locked me out because it didn't expect me to go that path.
Bravo Todd!
Today I dreamt I met Todd and he got me to buy a $20 vault boy keychain.
Even in my dreams he whispers lies.
>>143877226
Littlehorn has an interest in many parts of the world.
Hope is a flower that must not flourish.
>>143894317
>and the game locked me out
what?
>>143894116
It's possible to establish a character without explaining his entire background. It's just lazy writing
>even Sawyer admitted the player had little to no reason to go after Benny in NV.
The reason was either to complete your contract, to get revenge or curiosity. I don't see why there'd be need for anymore
Is there a way to turn wild animals into followers through console commands?
>>143878119
So the new faction they worked on the longest was the shittiest one in game?
Maybe putting Obsidian under the gun is the best way to deal with them.
>>143894317
>The funniest was when I shot my son and the game locked me out because it didn't expect me to go that path.
>Bravo Todd!
It only locks you out of thew Institute and makes them your enemy.
You should have reloaded and got the Pip Boy upgraded and looted the Institute for all the Aluminum, microscopes, and shit.
>>143894649
>The reason was either to complete your contract
Your contract, as a Courier, was to deliver the chip.
You are not a heavily armed mercenary. Your contact would only stipulate you go back to Nash and tell him shit got stolen so he could deal with it by hiring an actual merc.
> to get revenge or curiosity
Revenge for the sake of revenge, and curiosity of the sake of curiosity, are considered two of the worst possible character motivations.
Every good revenge plot makes the revenge secondary to the primary motivation, which is usually trying to recuse someone.
Such is the case in Dishonored, show entire tagline was about revenge, yet the game constantly treated the recuse of Emily, and the other throwing of the corrupt government who kidnapped her, as being the primary task.
I honestly dont understand why people are so hellbent on trying to excuse something even the guy who wrote it said was bad.
>>143895020
>Your contract, as a Courier, was to deliver the chip.
>You are an authorized agent of the Mojave Express Package until delivery is complete and payment has been processed, contractually obligated to complete this transaction and materially responsible for any malfeasance or loss. Failure to deliver the proper recipient may result in forfeiture of your advance and bonus, criminal charges, and/or pursuit by mercenary reclamation teams. The Mojave Express is not responsible for any injury or loss of life you experience as a result of said reclamation efforts.
If I get Radiation Resistance and Ghoulish, can I really not be affected by radiation? Or is it just mitigation?
>>143895281
Thank you for proving my point.
What makes it even more funny is that Obsidian had an easy motivator right there in the merc teams, but the Courier's week long coma, and the total lack of anyone EVER coming after you, makes that a hollow threat in the first 5 minutes of the game.
Sad OBsidian fumbled it that hard, but at least Sawyer had the decency enough to admit they fumbled.
>>143893562
I feel like FO4s protagonist is fairly open.
Being as they were only shown pre-war and in a happy family situation, there is no telling how they would react in the wasteland.
That and they might also be a synth.
Did they optimize Fallout 4 by any chance? I played at release and it didn't run too well.
>>143894078
>Load remaining 42 images
>42 images
Is this autism, boredom, or a mix of both?
Or is it a quad peg that has connected its brain to the internet and become one with Digitality?
>>143895669
It runs somewhat better, but i suggest going under one resolution just to be sure...and the institute still lags tho
>>143895521
>Thank you for proving my point.
You were wrong though. The mercenary reclamation team refers to bringing in you when you fail the delivery
8x or 2.5x scope?
>>143894959
I was trying to role play angry pissed off dad.
Of course it was my mistake I could role play in his game to begin with.
>>143895879
and you already failed the delivery by the time the game begins due to your week long coma.
Nash even mentions you were considered behind schedule, and that all the other deliveries had been completed/dropped off.
and yet STILL nothing happens
>>143895830
>and the institute still lags tho
The tute is the only place in the game where i get any noticeable framerate drops.
>>143896051
Because his town is literally overrun by criminals. When that's inevitably cleared up you've got to pay for the platinum chip or you've got mercenaries after you
So clearly you have plenty of reason to finish the contract
Is there any actual proof that Father is your son, beyond his word?
>>143896194
Is there a mod yet that fixes it?
>>143896384
I gave my character a massive schnoz at the start of the game and he looked just like me.
On my 6th playthrough. Can I just go to Fort Hagen and not follow Dogmeat? Its just so tedious.
>>143896384
No, nothing beyond his word and any visual similarities, but that isn't very compelling evidence.
>>143896384
Why would you need proof? What, you don't trust the mad scientist's that kidnapped your son?
>>143896204
>Because his town is literally overrun by criminals.
Except its not. The only criminal is Benny
>When that's inevitably cleared up
Which
A. House has no ability to do without you
B. You have no prior knowledge about before you reach Vegas
>So clearly you have plenty of reason to finish the contract
Reasons that either dont exist, or you can only find out after reaching the end of your journey, and thus, don't serve as motivation to begin the journey in the first place.
Holy shit man, what is wrong with you? Why are you so hellbent on defending someone who doesn't want to be defended?
You are seriously acting like those crazy feminists who constancy tell women they dont KNOW that they are being "oppressed" and are fighting for them, even when told they dont feel that way and don't want anyone to fight for them because of it.
Is it really just that hard to accept that Obsidian made a narrative mistake and admitted it?
or, you know
Mr Roboto following you around and reporting your activities to House staves off the Mercs
>>143896384
>>143896545
>>143896550
>>143896623
>Inb4 he uploaded his mind into the Synth kid prototype to cheat death
>>143891524
God I wish. A fallout game where the base stays with you like a personal Prydwen?
>>143896545
Institute can create synthetic organics who are capable of becoming self-aware, but they aren't capable of plastic surgery?
>>143896738
Nick already proved mind transfers dont work well.
Also
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Advanced_system_notes
>It's not really Shaun. None of his memories are in there. That, even now, would be a step too far.
>>143896803
This is why I like games with magic or advanced technology. You could have a pocket dimension home base or a personal teleproter to and from your ship.
Didn't Old World Blues have something like that?
>>143896636
>Except its not. The only criminal is Benny
Confirmed to have never played F:NV.
>>143895543
>That and they might also be a synth.
???
Nate/Nora is an adult Synth who leaves the Vault to find Shaun, Shaun is found and has a breakdown and is shut down by Father.
Synth Shaun is defective but adult parent Synth is perfect?
>>143896636
What the fuck are you talking about? Nash in Primm is going to send mercenaries after you when he's got stuff back together if you don't pay him for your mistake
Again, a reason for you to complete the contract until then. There are clear negative consequences for not completing the contract
And then there's the fact that revenge and/or House approaching you is also a motivator to finish it
>>143896990
>Didn't Old World Blues have something like that?
No.
OWB had a teleporter based in an old satellite, but no pocket dimensions or anything.
>>143896938
Synth Shaun might not really be my son, but I've never been able to leave him behind, even on my most zealous Brotherhood playthrough. And if it ever came down to Maxson's Brotherhood or the synth child? I'd kill them all.
>>143897163
They couldn't be a synth, 1st gen synths don't last very long.
>>143897215
>Nash in Primm is going to send mercenaries after you when he's got stuff back together if you don't pay him for your mistake
Its not your mistake, no more then the Legion ambushing you and taking it would be your mistake.
You were given a pre-set route, and were told it would be clear by your employer, and it wasn't.
Thats HOUSE'S mistake, not yours.
Jesus Christ man, are you some kind of psychopath?
Doing my third playthrough, I was thinking of siding with the Minutemen but I seriously can't see myself destroying the Institute. Why did they make the endings so shit? Why can't you reason with both sides?
I get BoS would never ally with Institute, but the Miuntemen's main enemy are the Gunners
>>143897267
He means the Transportalponder/Teleportalponder or whatever it was called
>>143897340
lmao what a fucking pussy.
Enjoy your never-aging boy robot.
>>143897163
Adult synths have had a longer time to adapt and get used to their body, or just have had their problems troubleshot.
Young ones might not take to their body as readily or haven't had time to get the kinks worked out.
>>143897267
But you could teleport to the Sink, right? I remember something about a personal teleporter.
>>143897507
I'm so ashamed, but I can't do it. I just fucking can't.
>>143885319
In Far Harbor.
I just downloaded a mod that let's me disable the tedious shit.
>>143897415
Are you merely pretending to be retarded?
>and were told it would be clear by your employer
who said this?
It clearly states in the contract that all responsibility is on you
>>143897373
Of course they're synths. Look at this shopping list.
>>143897492
Thats just a device that triggers the teleportation device inside the crashed Satellite
>>143897523
See the above
the transportalponder was not what teleproted you, it served as OWB's equivalent to a courser chip, and acted like a relay between you, and the satellite
>>143897684
>who said this?
House, he specifically mentions that all the routes the various couriers took were set, and pre-screened to make sure the delivery was safe.
This look reminds me of Ground Zeroes.
>>143897914
Where? I'm genuinely curious because I can't remember that
But it doesn't matter because all responsibility is still on you and to clear your name you have to get the chip back
>>143898107
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/MrHouse.txt
>If the Chip's so valuable, why use a single courier to transport it?
>You realize you were just one of many couriers, the rest of them {beat} dummies, so to speak?
>Add to that many thousands of caps worth of mercenary protection to screen your avenue of approach.
>vats teleports me through a wall
>only way out is a door too high level for me to pick
>can't fast travel because there's enemies on the other side of the wall
GREAT GAME BETHESDA WHEN'S FALLOUT 5 COMING OUT?
>>143897754
It was still a device for instantly transporting yourself to a well equipped base of operations.
The only bad thing is you couldn't teleport right back to where you were.
Not the best form of a mobile personal fortress like the first guy said, but a step in the right direction.
gotta fix the flame mesh
>>143898241
I've been teleported like that before. Only I ended up two floors down from where I engaged the enemy.
>>143898229
Still that only means House did it for himself. It doesn't clear your name as a courier
>>143898257
Yes, but The Institute's teleporter can reach further, and the device needed to use it(The courser chip) is less cumbersome.
>>143895543
>That and they might also be a synth.
>Takes radiation damage
>Needs to eat, drink and sleep or gets weak
>Can get diseases
>Has long-term memories from before the war
They're not a synth.
>>143898241
>noclip
>>143897421
>Why did they make the endings so shit? Why can't you reason with both sides?
How do you reason with a group that wants to exterminate all the "defective" surface people?
Because the Confederate States of America were defeated, slavery was abolished and that's facts.
Solomon did not divide the baby and give half to each mother.
>>143898353
Your name was never sullied.
Even in the NCR there are raiders abound, couriers get shot, and their shit stolen, all the time.
this idea of MUH HONOR reeks of some naive superman esqe idea of live that simply doesn't exist.
>>143897685
Has anyone checked their bathroom to see if they leave the cap off the toothpaste?
>>143897685
>call repairman
Nate confirmed canonical Cuckold.I should really stop watching porn, I mean I know its fake as shit, but I'm constantly horny all the time I can't fucking help it but jack off every hour. I need fucking help or I might vacuum this planet if I keep this up.
>>143898424
>Has long-term memories from before the war
If anything that increases the probability they are a synth.
Fake memories make more sense then cryogenic freezing.
>>143898325
Damn, that hit at the end almost makes the melee combat look good.
Does revival have huge LOD issues for anyone else?
>>143898489
Not him, but The Institute does not want to exterminate the people of the surface.
If they did they would have just teleported a bunch of synths into Diamond City and killed everyone in about 5 minutes flat instead of spending years using watchers to simply monitor shit on the surface
Stop with this retarded meme
>>143898489
Since you become the leader and can convince the department heads to follow you
>>143898632
>ignores literally everything else.
>>143898325
>gotta fix the flame mesh
It's like bowling, only cooler!
And the fingers are still attached!
Thank you very much!
>>143898624
>I might vacuum this planet if I keep this up.
what?
>>143898424
>advanced prototype to get rid of immortal body like previous version
>Entire faction around mind wiping synths
>nobody knows who smokes
>there are multiple packs of cigarettes and ashtrays throughout the house
>>143897685
>>143888805
high heel boot mod where?!
>>143898725
I feel like The Institute could have been so much more with someone smart as Director. FEV project should have been abandoned long ago. Synth Gorilla project is fundamentally retarded. Half the department heads need to be executed for ethical concerns.
>>143898748Everything else was correct and they are obviously not synths. I was just pointing out that as not being one of the reasons why it makes no sense.
>>143898763
I wonder if this thing will cut through a tin can and still make julienne fries?
>>143898558
>Your name was never sullied.
It clearly was, now you're making shit up and you know it. You're just mad Mojave Express have these strict rules that gives the courier an obvious purpose of completing his contract
If you can't handle the wasteland laws feel free to sell your gaping asshole and spend what little caps you make on Jet and overdose
>>143898890
>Synth Gorilla project is fundamentally retarded
>Finding ways to bring back extinct species is retarded.
What?
>FEV project should have been abandoned long ago
The FEV project was continued for the same reason it was began, to perfect FEV strains for use in synths.
WHAT'S THE FINAL GOAL OF THE FUCKING INSTITUTE
WHAT'S WRONG WITH CURRENT GEN 3 SYNTHS
WHY IS FATHER SO FUCKING DUMB
>>143898819
kys
>>143898725
>Not him, but The Institute does not want to exterminate the people of the surface.
Stop with this retarded meme
Art vs Synth Art says otherwise, why replace a farmer with a Synth unless you intend to replace all farmers?
>>143898740
>Since you become the leader and can convince the department heads to follow you
Which topic never happens.
>>143898770
The chances of me turning into a black hole is not 0%
>>143898986
>It clearly was, now you're making shit up and you know it.
How was your named sullied when it wasn't your fault, and not even Nash or House blames you for the chips loss?
Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you?
>>143899073
Gorillas have no function or benefit to anyone. Bringing back an extinct species just because can wait until the very pressing problems humanity faces are solved.
Read the terminal. It flat out says that the FEV project was no longer producing any new data. It was an unnecessary drain on resources.
>>143899158
Mankind Redefined
That's the quest, Father tells you he's dying and you then talk to each department head. You then read the radio script and decide which path the Institute takes
>>143898795
>advanced prototype to get rid of immortal body like previous version
What would be the point? The whole point of synths is to make them superior to humans, the sole reason the Institute created them is because they wanted to build the """"""perfect machine""""".
If you're a synth, why are you never given a shutdown command when you attack the Institute?
>>143898624
>Fapping to real porn
>Not just wearing slutty outfits ingame and playing with a boner
It's much more thrilling when you're thinking of the Raiders finally downing you and turning you into their breeding sow
>>143899217
BECAUSE THE CONTRACT CLEARLY STATES YOU ARE RESPONSIBLY NO MATTER THE CIRCUMSTANCES HOW FUCKING RETARDED CAN YOU BE
>>143899164
I'm not sure I follow
>>143899158
>why replace a human who can only give you 30 years of efficient service with a machine?
>you must hate humans to do something so terrible!
You sound like those people who think replacing factory workers with machines is going to lead to Skynet taking over the world.
>>143899158
>why replace a farmer with a Synth unless you intend to replace all farmers?
Same reason they did with Roger Warwick, to get him on a farm that had condition suitable for whatever plant experiment they were doing.
Play the game a bit more you idiot.
>>143893293
>What is migration over the better part of a century?
>>143899439
>What is migration over the better part of a century?
And the Vault 87 super mutants have been around for 200 years, far longer then the Master's, but its bad when they spread.
Survival is fun when fighting raiders/people with guns, but holy shit it seems so cheap when you fight animals.
Packs of dogs feel flat out unfair since they two shot you, spawn in packs, run faster than you, and can hit you even if you're not near them once they bite. All of that on top of being able to tank shotgun shots to the face like it's nothing.
It feels cheap as fuck.
Granted I am low level, but I've been able to take down most threats with good cover and sneaking. Except dogs who are impossible.
Have a Raider with a shotgun pop around the corner and one shot you is pretty frustrating as well, especially when you blast them 2 - 4 times in the head before they can fire, and they just shrug it off and one shot you.
They really should have given the player more damage if they wanted it to feel more realistic. Also tone down dog/bug damage a bit. It's fine Yao Guai or Death Claws tearing you a new one, but diseased and starving dogs shouldn't tear your legs off with a single bite and take bullets like they ain't shit.
how come there's no backpack mods for xbone?
>>143899298
>Mankind Redefined
>you then talk to each department head
Not him, but no you don't. You just attend Father's 'I'm dying' meeting. You don't have to convince the Directors of anything. Most of them just go off bitching about it.
The only time you have to convince anyone of anything is when those two scientists lock themselves in Bioscience.
>>143899606
it's bullshit from lvl 1 to 20, fun from 20 to 40, then it's just boring like all other difficulty levels.
>>143898424
Not all synths are Rad immune
>muh FEV
There is nothing that explicitly states that Synths are FEV-based. As far as we know, their DNA is 1:1 human.
Also they do need to eat/sleep/drink, or at least feel the psychological need to do so. Their bodies function the same, so of course they'd sustenance. It'd be easier to assume their metabolism is turned so they can survive longer without them.
>>143899293
>Bringing back an extinct species just because can wait until the very pressing problems humanity faces are solved.
You are aware it is possible to multitask?
The only problems the Institute needed solved were ones of power, which advanced systems was working on with Phase 3.
Why should bioscience, and entirely different department, just stop everything its doing until then?
>Read the terminal. It flat out says that the FEV project was no longer producing any new data. It was an unnecessary drain on resources.
I never doubted that, I said the reasons why it was ordered to be continued were the same as before.
Obviously Father, Zimmer, and the Director(s) before Father all felt like there was more to find with FEV
>>143899587
Except that the Super Mutants in Boston aren't from Vault 87.
>>143899674
I literally just did the quest, after that quest you can talk to each department head and offer to help as well as convince them to believe in you.
There's also the quest where you release the Institute's Statement and you can choose what to say. You can either help the Commonwealth or not.
>>143899158
>Stop with this retarded meme
So much reaching, each person is replaced with a Synth so that the Institute has a man on the ground they can trust in, just like with Dima and Faaaa Haaaba. When you become the Director you can also choose not to do this any more, you literally choose everything the Institute does
>>143899352
>the Raiders finally downing you and turning you into their breeding sow
MODS WHEN
>>143899874
Never said they were, but the FEV used to make them most likely was.
and that still ignores th fact the Boston super mutants are in an area smaller then LA, with a singular offshoot group in Far Harbor.
So, again, the east coast super mutants are still less spread out then those of the west coast, despite being around fro 100+ years(in the case of the Boston ones) and 200 years in the case of the DC ones
>>143899794
>Not all synths are Rad immune
Not according to the Institute terminals.
Some might be in gameplay but that's fucking Bethesda's quality control. Glory doesn't drop a synth component for example.
>>143899432
>>why replace a human who can only give you 30 years of efficient service with a machine?
>>you must hate humans to do something so terrible!
Except the Institute humans are not replacing themselves with superior Synths, only the disgusting dirty filthy surfacers.
>>143899960
>you literally choose everything the Institute does
Can you bring back the Cybernetics projects?
>>143899821
You misunderstand. I meant the Institute could do more for the rest of humanity. Those aboveground need help too. Send Synths to clear out all raider strongholds, gunner fortresses, and super mutant hideouts. Begin trading with the surface world. Show that all things truly are possible through science.
>>143899437
>>why replace a farmer with a Synth unless you intend to replace all farmers?
>Same reason they did with Roger Warwick, to get him on a farm that had condition suitable for whatever plant experiment they were doing.
>Play the game a bit more you idiot.
And then they exterminated all the humans on the farm, and took their "research" back to the Institute.
>>143899125
kys kys fall in love
>>143899432
The Institute honestly believe all surface dwellers are going to go extinct in the near future. It's why they have no issue wiping out towns or replacing people, they consider it a mercy.
They're not replacing humans i.e. Institute scientists with synths, just the doomed sub-humans clinging to life on the surface.
>>143900241
They tried that.
The surface is full of corrupt savages and retards who don't care about progress and only care about being crowned king of the irradiated shithole.
>>143899626
>Expecting good mods on consoles
why not just play it on pc?
>>143900428
tfw you get the reference
>Le Fallout 3 is good meme
>>143900458
better to be a king in hell than a servant in heaven
>>143900458
Not all the surfacers are like that. I don't know, I just think The Institute could have been so much better than "organization that is obviously evil because amoral scientists".
>>143900495
I'm poor
>>143900241
The Institute already tried to help the surface world, they spent 4 years trying to keep the Commonwealth Provisional Government together only for the petty bickering settlements to destroy it, then turn around and blame it all on The Institute.
And we have already seen what happens to those who try to build the old world.
The NCR is a bloated, corrupt, quagmire, thats running out of both food and water, and is going to face mass starvation in 10 years time unless they pull something out of their ass fast, and is suffering from mass civil unrest.
The Legion is a brutal, cult of personality, whose future rests on the shoulders of a dying elderly man, and is unlikely to survive him.
The MwBoS is a crazed, authoritarian, police state, that rules its population through fear of crucifixion, labor gulags, and mutant discrimination.
On the east coast, Ashur has turned the city of Pittsburgh into a slave empire, whose network reaches out hundreds of miles to prey on people as far as Ronto and the Capital Wasteland.
Why would the Institute think that helping such obviously retarded and self destructive people would be worth thier time when past experience has shown all people are going to do with it is throw it away and bitch
>>143900241
>I meant the Institute could do more for the rest of humanity. Those aboveground need help too. Send Synths to clear out all raider strongholds, gunner fortresses, and super mutant hideouts. Begin trading with the surface world. Show that all things truly are possible through science.
Did they do this for you after you killed the RR and the BoS or did you forget to command it to happen?
>>143899960
>When you become the Director you can also choose not to do this any more, you literally choose everything the Institute does
>This is what Insticucks actually believe
You're a puppet, nothing more. You think anyone in the Institute is going to take your side in the event of a conflict? That SRB, the head of which doesn't trust you and thinks your appointment was a mistake, is going to support you with synths and Coursers if you start to shake things up?
Delusional.
>>143900390
>And then they exterminated all the humans on the farm, and took their "research" back to the Institute.
Except that never happens, even after you help Roger complete the experiment, his family lives on, and he stays there
Again, play the game
>>143900787
>spent 4 years trying to help the surface world
>out of the 200+ years it has been around
>spent even longer building robotic gorillas
They could have put a lot more effort into it.
>>143900829
Poor writing makes it impossible. From a story perspective, the Institute could have been so much better.
>>143900965
they just dont give a fuck
keep in mind that the institute was probably founded by irradiated fratboys and janitors
>>143900882
If anyone in the Institute tried to refuse your orders, you could just kill them. If they all revolt, kill most of them and subjugate the rest. Killing the department heads should have been first on SS's agenda after Shaun died.
>>143901050
The Institute was exactly what it should have been, the first faction not dumb enough to try to rebuild the surface, when all history has shown that civilization, as a concept, is inevitably self destructive.
The Institute and the BoS are a lot a like, the reason why they have outlived many other would be nations is because they don't care about building nations, and thus, don't fall with them.
>>143900787
>they spent 4 years trying to keep the Commonwealth Provisional Government together only for the petty bickering settlements to destroy it.
>The same Institute that wipes out entire settlements just over a rumour of salvaged reactor technology
>The same Institute that has been kidnapping thousands of wastelanders, dipping them in FEV, then deliberately releasing the surviving cannibalistic super-soldier rejects back onto the surface, at great cost, to prey on surface-dwellers, rather than euthanizing them.
That's a funny way of saying they lured all the Commonwealth settlement's leaders into one place under pretence and then ordered their synths to slaughter them.
Do you believe everything authority figures tell you without question in real life as well?
>>143900040
>the FEV used to make them most likely was.
I'm assuming you have a source for this speculation?
>the fact the Boston super mutants are in an area smaller then LA, with a singular offshoot group in Far Harbor.
Take a look at that map. Are you going to seriously tell me that Las Vegas is farther from Monterey Bay than Far Harbor is from Boston?
And really, you're missing the point anyway. The problem isn't that Beth's Super Mutants are everywhere - it makes sense for a social predator like the Super Mutant to migrate to bigger and better feeding grounds.
The problem is that there's FEV all over the fucking place.
>>143900495
Is it really that hard to make though?
>>143900787
>The MwBoS is a crazed, authoritarian, police state, that rules its population through fear of crucifixion, labor gulags, and mutant discrimination.
Confirmed for not knowing shit. Typical Insticuck.
>>143901520
A. Both of the things you listed happened after the people of the surface shat all over them and starting blaming them for everything.
B. University Point was destroyed by Kellogg, who even Shaun admits was murderous psychopath.
C. Actually they released the super mutants onto the surface because its easiest, and its not like they care about the people of the surface to begin with, given that they shat all over them.
D. Nothing indicates that the Institute killed the people of the CPG.
>Do you believe everything authority figures tell you without question in real life as well?
No, but we are talking about in-game facts, not something Shaun tells you(besides the tangent of Kellogg being crazy)
>>143900965
You mean just like the followers of the apocalypse?
They should just spread themselves thin performing CPR on humanity for another 30 years before their resources dry up right?
Is that the best thing they could have done, in your opinion?
>>143901731
no just tag it for xbone and ps4 ;)
Abernathys farm gives me PURIFIED WATER by default, straight from the tap.
Is this normal? I thought you needed a purifier?
>Also
/v/ talked alot of shit about fallout 4, but i'm having a fucking blast playing Realistic Locations Mod + Survival mode, i even had a nightmare about it, being chased by my dad but he was built like a super mutant.
Anyway, no bullet sponging here, I just scout environment for 10-20 minutes and then pick enemies off, this game is awesome.
>>143900629
>steel be with you
>go diving
>see this
>it's off limit
I feel the Todd.
>>143896384
Reasons to believe Father isn't your son:
>Incredibly pushy about believing he's your son
>Kellogg says "the old man" wants Shaun from Vault 111
>Toys with you with Synth Shaun for apparently no reason
Reasons to believe Father is your son:
>Father says so
>>143902339
realistic locations?
Anyway, some places just naturally have purified water, some of them make no sense, like the sink in The Castle's kitchen.
>>143901652
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/FEV_research_notes
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Shaun
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Broken_Mask_Incident
-2178: Institute gets FEV.
-2224: FEV experiment comes to a halt due to the radiation mutated DNA of wastelanders not allowing progress. Lead FEV scientists suggests "someone" new.
-2227: Shaun is kidnapped from Vault 111 for his pure DNA.
-2229: The Broken Mask incident occurs when an early prototype Gen 3 synth is released on the surface and goes crazy.
Yeah no, totally not at all related
Okay, guys, I'm making a Child of Atom character. Ten STR/END. What should I do with the remaining points?
>>143902498
he looks like you though
>>143902524
And yet, nowhere is it mentioned where the FEV was obtained.
>>143902664
Plastic/cosmetic surgery.
>>143902521
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/3815/?
It was called Better Locational Damage, really gay name, but exceptional mod. Headshot = Death
>>143902521
>some places just naturally have purified water
Okey thank you, I thought I had encountered a good type of bug, tried googling but just got tutorials of purified shekel-farming.
>>143902128
Let me guess, modders won't do it because retards are pestering them?
Any attempts to rebuild the wasteland are doomed to fail because as soon as you die some greedy or incompetent savage is going replace you and throw all of your hard work down the drain.
You're better off just gathering a group of like minded people and circle jerking about science for all of eternity like the brains at big MT.
>>143901997
>Meet faction that obviously hates surface-dwellers, considers them sub-human mutants and expects them to die out within a few generations
>Faction has a vested interest in you doing their dirty work on the surface for them since you killed their previous operative
>Faction tells you they'll actually nice people and don't mean any harm, has a weak excuse for some of their genocidal and psychotic actions that contradict this.
>Straight up won't discuss others, or just blame it on their 'Crazy Ol' Kellogg', despite him seeming sane and collected when you meet him, and him having a reputation for being a cold professional in all his work.
>Shaun blames your spouse's execution on Kellogg just being an unhinged murderer, despite Kellogg's memories specifically stating that they killed the rest of the vault dwellers on the Director's specific orders, and that he didn't understand why it was ordered, other than to tie up loose ends, indicating an utter lack of concern for non-Institute lives.
>You believe them when they claim the entire wasteland is just lying about the CPG.
I imagine you'll probably end up joining a cult at some point in your life.
>>143902845
What reason would Father have to convince you he is your son?
He gives you TONs of power because of it, and now you're suggesting he changed his entire appearance to do it? To what end?
He gains nothing at all.
>>143883440
I'm sure Bethesda accounted for that but decided it'd irritate the player, especially if it happens in the middle of combat.
>>143902608
10 STR/END is overkill, try to tone it down a bit.
If you're making a melee character, remember to get Chemist for some insane damage bonuses(+6 STR/END + 130 HP +50% melee damage + 25% damage) and remember AGI for sneak.
>>143884821
I'm afraid the developers thought that'd be the Vault Suit with the light version of the Leather Armor Chestpiece.
>>143903060
Securing your trust and loyalty. You would protect him, and by extension the Institute, with your life. His motivation is to acquire a new field operative.
>>143885082
I'm sure the Capital Wasteland makes up for at least 9 squares. There's the entirety of DC and the surrounding area in Fallout 3. Only difference is things are closer to each other than real life.
>>143903410
The Institue literally builds operatives.
Sure, you got the upper hand against a courser, but is that justification for putting the entire Institute in your hands just to have you fight for them?
Since you're the protagonist, it IS actually a great investment, since you always win, but the characters in the game couldn't know that.
>>143887696
I'm just gonna wait until the world ends and I'll just loot them and sell them in the market. By that time they'll be perfectly weathered too!
>>143900629
>Le NV is good meme
>ftfy
>>143903410
Yeah because nothing says field operative material like a 200 year old lawyer lady. Moron.
Idea:
Blitz Rank 3
After successfully hitting something, it teleports you back to your starting position
>>143899107
IMPROVE MANKIND.
TOO HUMANLIKE, WHEN WE PROGRAMMED THEM TO THAT WAY FOR SPYING.
HE JUST IS.
>>143903649
By that point you've murdered Kellogg and an Institute Courser. And infiltrated their headquarters. It may be just as much about survival as it is manipulation. Better to have you on their side.
>>143901050
>Poor writing makes it impossible.
Basing it on Boston and American history was a mistake, today's gamers disengage their brains and never stop to think about the plot, it's only "am I having fun" and "building settlements is boring".
>>143903674
>le I have shit taste meme
>>143902490
Wait what? Where is that?
>>143904068
>no water purification systems in FO3
Are you literally retarded?
>>143901997
>after the people of the surface shat all over them
>>143901997
>given that they shat all over them.
The Institute has been hiding in their basement for 200 years no one shat on then except the Chinese.
>>143904341
>Not giving Nick a .44 snubnose
>>143890873
This is where mods should come in. While they can be as big as DLC areas, there's no pressure for them to live up to the standarts of a new game or DLC.
The Denver and Boulder Dome mods for FNV are perfect examples of this and there are many more big mods with non-vanilla locations which give you new stories, items and locations while still being lore friendly. These mods are the reason I don't uninstall Bethesda games after completing the game and the DLCs %100 percent in one or more playthroughs.
>>143902770
>And yet, nowhere is it mentioned where the FEV was obtained.
That was never the contested point.
The point was that synths were made with FEV.
Which explains their radiation immunity, and other unusual features such as enhanced strength, speed, intelligence, and thier vastly reduced need for food and sleep
>>143904580
Forgot to mention mods like the Deserts of Aquina for Oblivion. The modder made a whole different province almost as big as the game itself. Or that one guy who made the Summerset Isles for Skyrim.
I like modders' works more than Bethesda's. I wish we could have the entirety of Tamriel and post-apoc America but with mods.
>>143903472
Not him, but the in-game Capital Wasteland's IRL area is 25 miles diagonal, which is an area small enough to fit into the LA metropolitan area twice over
the CW is by no means 9 squares
>>143904068
It's interesting how much more time you have to add extra shit to a game when you don't need to make the base game itself, nor most of the assets.
>>143904575
What about giving Nick Eddie's Peace?
Figured I'd show my survivor.
>>143881958
Immersion would be the POWER ARMOR NOT RUNNING OUT OF FUCKING POWER BETHESDA
>>143901997
>the people of the surface shat all over them
>Things the Institute has done to the wastelanders:
1. Kidnapped them for experimentation
2. Released super mutants to kill and eat them
3. Released early model synths to disintegrate them
4. Wiped out their settlements
5. Wiped out their political leaders
6. Replaced their political leaders with synths
7. Replaced everyone from caravaneers to farmers with synths, murdering the originals
8. Used those synths to undermine unity amongst wastelanders i.e. the expulsion of ghouls from Diamond City
>Things the wastelanders have done to the Institute:
1. ???
2. ???
3. ???
FUCKEN WASTELANDER UNGRATEFUL SHITS! DESERVE EVERYTHING THEY GET FOR WHAT THEY DID TO THE POOR OLD INSTITUTE THAT JUST WANTED TO HELP!
>>143905230
All of the shit you just listed was stuff they did after the fall of the CPG
>>143905092
>even less reason to ever take it off
no thanksShould have used a charging dock station system
>>143904912
Kinda makes sense, but for me, given Nick's personality, I figured he wouldn't want to use a gun that soaked in innocent blood. It's the same reason my SS doesn't take Kellogg's armor or gun off his corpse.
What if the Sole Survivor developed a fascination with nuclear power when he saw the bomb go off? Could this be a basis for his conversion to Atom?
>>143905410
I just take them and store them in a special 'mementos' container.
>>143905092
>>143905341
>not the option to choose between Power Armor training or Cybernetic implants mid-game
>>143905341
Why put it on in the first place? I can't be assed to find a station to upgrade the pieces, so it's usually reduces my carry weight since my regular armor is all pocketed +str
Ballistic Weave
And it's slower
Would've been better if it was even stronger but didn't hand you a suit at the beginning and they didn't clad 70% of the Brotherhood in it
>>143905481
>sole survivor
>he
>>143905531
As soon as one is made I will use a scat mod to defecate on his corpse and burn it to ashes.
Good riddance I say, I don't care what his childhood was like.
>>143905336
>CPG gets shot up.
>Wastelanders lose all their leaders.
>Institute loses nothing. Synth survives.
Even if, and it's a big if, the Institute is telling the truth for once and it really was the wastelanders fault, this event somehow not only excuses everything on that list, but flips it completely the other way so that the Institute is the victim 'being shat on'.....how exactly?
How early in the game can I get a sledgehammer? Want to bash some faces in.
>>143904341
Somewhere around the island.
I really was hoping to find good stuff underwater but it was a waste of time.
>>143905682
I'm sure there's someone out there that feels the same about the SS after all the people you've killed
>>143905546
>Can't be assed to find a station
There is one right in sanctuary and red rocket next to the workshop.
R8 my Modlist and offer suggestions for additions.
>>143898712
Anyone? Or is no one playing with glorious, green wasteland?
>>143905721
>but flips it completely the other way so that the Institute is the victim 'being shat on'.....how exactly?
Because instead of admitting it was their own fault that the CPG fell, the people of the wasteland immediately turned around, blamed the Institute, then started making up increasingly paranoid bullshit about how every leaky pipe was The Institute's fault, which is turn prevented the Institute from helping further since everyone blamed them for everything and refused their help.
>>143905721
No one is portraying the institute as the victim, they're just saying they don't owe a bunch of backwards rad babies anything.
>>143905839
I'm sure there is.
That won't stop me from waiting for first snow of winter so that I may piss on their graves.
>>143896803
Have it on the Mississippi with a working steamboat.
Where do you even hear about the Commonwealth Government aside from Valentine? Why is it so fucking hard to find any information in this game? Why is the dialogue so bad?
>>143902490
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTcMk3ThYGg
>>143905964
>No one is portraying the institute as the victim
See; >>143901997
>"the people of the surface shat all over them"
To put this whole fucking map size comparison to rest, heres a comparison between Fallout 3's in-game map, the real world area, and the LA metropolitan area
>>143904817
What if you count actual content over landmass? Buildings, ruins, settlements, people.
>tfw shower and invisible furniture mods
>>143905869
Yeah but I never actually use Sanctuary or RR as a home base. On my newest game I've been obsessively scrapalling everything, too.
The point is, my regular armor is really good and PA is just an unnecessary chore. The suits are cool and all but the balance is still trash, just like the past two games.
If I wanted to do a Jack Torrance build, what weapon should I use to get closest to the book? Is there a croquet mallet?
>>143905230
I think Father mentions the only people they replaced are scientists who seem competent enough to help them further mankind. Mankind being themselves, of course.
>>143905952
So the benevolent Institute then started kidnapping them, experimenting on them, unleashing cannibal mutants and synths on them....because people were calling them names on the surface?
And you're cool with that morality?
Fair enough.
>>143898086
I really fucking hate that thing. If there was a toggle switch for "highlight living creatures" it would be fine but damn son shit's so bright got me like
>>143906441
Not him but no, they repalce people like Mcdounah, so they can watch over diamond City and make sure no one is rising up against them.
And they replaced people like Roger Warwick so they can use him to carry out their plant genetics experiments on the surface.
>>143904068
That image implies a lot of things. Like that a story is good if it has a lot of endings. The story in NV is incredibly dumb, after you kill Benny the Courier has literally no reason to continue working with House, NCR, or Legion. Or that groups of npcs that are factions in name only should count towards the total number of factions. The Kings are a great example of this because they never leave Freeside or interact with other factions other then the one shootout with NCR. NV also fails at providing a decent exploration experience. Try walking to Vegas from Goodsprings, in fact try going anyway but south and you will die. Obsidian forces you into what is essentially an on-rails segment for a good hour or so and by then your so sick of being dragged by the dick down this path that you don't even care about the story anymore. No game is perfect but I'm seriously sick of people pretending NV was a complete masterpiece and that anything Bethesda makes is steaming shit. You're so concerned about the names attached to the games that you don't see that they are equal piles of Brahmin dung.
Will the Institute reveal the secrets of the pink goo?
can't get these fucking songs out my head
I'M THE TYPE OF GUY WHO WILL NEVER SETTLE DOWN
>>143906309
Heres a JPG version for those on dialup
>>143906441
>Art was an elite scientist
>Sammy was an elite scientist
>Farmer Warwick was an elite scientist
>Random caravaneers are scientists
>Mayors are scientists
If he does mention that, he's fucking lying.
>>143906235
They're just being honest about what happened.
>I offered someone an umbrella
>they told me to fuck off
>I shot them and and started hoarding umbrellas in my umbrella factory
Mentioning the fact that someone made a move against you while admitting that you committed crimes isn't playing the part of the victim, it's being honest.
Or are you going to claim house was playing the victim when he talked about his plans for taking over vegas failing thanks to the bombs dropping, simply because he mentioned the bombs?
>>143906441
There's no reason for the Institute to replace anyone. They could've thrown Synths up there with madeup names and faces and had them do their surveillance like that. Would've made people a lot less violent and suspicious toward them too. Same with the farmers.
People taken to the Institute itself don't need to be replaced. The Institute kills those it replaces.
>>143906309
>>143906752
Why the comparison to LA Metro area?
>>143906659
I hope not.
That movie was awful.
>>143906605
Butthurt Bethesdrone detected.
No one claims NV was perfect, just that it's a shit-load better than the shit Bethesda produces.
Anyone else really like the sledgehammer/super sledge weapons?
>>143904068
Hey it's >>143906605 again. I also want to point out that a vast majority of quests and NPCs DO NOT have any impact on the main story WHATSOEVER so that little blurb under "content" is a complete fucking lie and is totally hilarious.
>>143906936
Because that was part of the original comparison way back earlier in the thread.
People were saying Fallout 3 and f didn't have enough large towns compared to Fallout 1 and 2, and it was pointed out how the Capital Wasteland/Commonwealth area is only the size of less then the city of LA, which, post war, only had one major settlement, that of the Boneyard settlement proper.
>alternate vehicles that run on fusion cores
>settlement cleanup options so you can actually improve the roads, fix potholes, make spots look properly cared for
>improved nature mods, (as in, greening up trees, making things look actually healed than just rotten since it IS two centuries later)
Are there any of those out? And if so, which would you recommend? And is NMM still the best option for mods ATM?
>>143907040
I strongly disagree. At least FO3 let me explore before dragging me by the dick.
>>143906703
>Replace Classical Radio with Postmodern Jukebox
>Holding off on killing Instishits because it'll kill my favourite radio station too.
If I could evacuate their radio station instead of not!Shaun I fucking would.
>>143907215
Dead trees shouldn't be standing after 200 years
>>143906605
>too much of a shitter to go straight to Vegas after getting shot
NV was a fucking excellent RPG
>>143906819
more like
>I offered someone an umbrella
>they told me to fuck off
>I slaughtered them when they tried to make their own umbrellas and flooded them with giant green monsters
>>143907120
WE WUZ ROBUTZ!!!!People actually think the Institute isn't homocidal when their brainwashed minion comes out with shit like this
>level 90
>haven't actually started automatron yet
>haven't even met my retarded son
>the game is already incredibly trivial even in survival
I'm kinda lost on how to keep the game interesting
>>143907430
You're not getting what I'm saying.
The umbrella thing was a metaphor, House will even tell you to your face that he's not a good guy, you're just an employee.
He's just being straight with you, or as straight as he feels he needs to be.
They (the institute) aren't defending their actions, just explaining why they got tired of trying to help a bunch of retards who probably don't even know how to use their technology.
>>143907070
I like how they and all other melee weapons are held with one hand in power armor.
Ensuring the future and survival of the human race
or
access to Piper's pussy?
>>143898325
Did you upload the sword somewhere? PERFECT for my BoS character. It's moddable too, right?
Please please tell me you will release this weapon.
>>143906987
It's a reference to a movie? Which one?
>>143907359
Yeah, that's what I think. After Chernobyl it's clear woods and greenery would return so I was hoping to find a good mod for that, and those other ones. Like some sort of settlement upgrade pack for not just new options of growing things, but for cleaning up the place, filling in holes.
Meanwhile, the overworld is more lush, and there's extra types of vehicles to traverse about in or build. I feel like I've seen all of those in some fashion somewhere, but I wanted to see if you guys had some recommendations for them to mod into my game.
Does anyone have a problem in fallout for that causes the game to crash randomly when around fauelin hall? I thought it was my mods but I turned them all off and it still happened.
>>143907805
There should have been power armor gauntlet attachments. Power fist/sledge/gun attachments.
>>143898325
wat armor mod?
>>143906703
>tfw already got tired of the radios in FO4
Dont know why, I still remember FO3 and NV songs lyrics by heart.
>>143907891
>current year
>people still using the false comparison of Chernobyl.
Thought these meme had died off
Any idea why this keeps happening in the creation kit? Half the time all the textures show up as pure black, and I have to keep reopening the ck until it works
>>143907891
I personally would just hire people to clear out the dead trees and turn them into mulch to build a new forest.
I'm surprised no one has tried to do that yet.
how do I resist the urge to brutally murder anyone who disagrees with me on fallout lore
Any mod that I can use to grow trees and plants in my settlements?
Downloaded a shitton of mods that adds new stuff but the closest they have are plants in vases.
>>143908183
Fun fact, the trees in the Commonwealth are not dead.
Hell, in the settlement UI, it specifically lists dead trees apart from living ones.
Fallout 4 takes place in October, after all the leaves had fallen. The trees look dead because most trees look dead that time of the year.
>>143907867
How does siding with the Railroad stop you accessing Piper's pussy?
>>143908083
There's like 30 songs on Diamond City Radio, but fuck if it doesn't feel like there's only 5
>>143907680
First step would be doing Automaton.
game will always be a cake walk after around 70. Arguably sooner.
RobCo looking shadier and shadier the deeper we go
>>143908101
You're right, Hiroshima or Nagasaki would be better comparisons, or some of the nuclear test site islands in the pacific... and guess what, those are all still green and verdant.
Nature reclaims shit hard, and is really resilient.
>>143908505
Literally over 50% of the songs on Diamond City Radio are reused from GNN
There's only so much you can build with scraps and things taken from old dilapidated buildings.
Eventually you're going to have to start chopping down trees again, and then humanity is really fucked.
>>143908670
They nukes weren't the only things killing off organic life you know.
>>143908669
The fuck is a snapta?
>>143908397
>once you've spent enough in-game time to make it to March or April, the trees start to bloom and grow green and the Commonwealth lights up in shades of life, revealing that what LOOKED like a barren wasteland scarred by war has moved on despite the assumptions people make
I wish Bethesda was cool enough for that sort of subtlety with their games.
>>143908397
The trees are like ghoul trees.
They're alive, but they have far fewer leaves than normal. Like Ghouls and hair.
>>143907390
I did, got fucking destroyed by Cazadors before I made it even a third of the way there. Trying to go anyway but South will get you fucking merc'd because Obsidian wanted to force to to experience both the Legion and NCR first hand in an attempt to draw you into choosing a side in the regional conflict. Which wasn't done all that well because the first time you meet NCR they're just manning a checkpoint into the Mojave and the first time you meet the Legion they just got done crucifying a bunch of powder gangers and burning civilians alive.
>>143908669
See here's the thing I don't get. House owned Robco. Why didn't he just brain his bitches and put them in robobrains instead of putting a picture on a securitron?
>>143908787
There was no proper sunlight for decades, trees learned to survive by leeching radiation magic from the environment and thus had no more need for leaves
>people bitch that settlements are still shoddy and built with scrap 200 years after complete nuclear devestation
>meanwhile, in real life, millions of people live in shoddy houses even worse quality than those in Fallout 4, despite having infrastructure, working vehicles, and neighboring with prosperous modern nations that have manufacturing plants
>>143908492
>lolbertarianism
>>143908806
The point of the legion was to give you the option of throwing away your morality for the sake of POWER.
Like a real man should.
>>143908785
>I wish Bethesda was cool enough for that sort of subtlety with their games.
TES has that sort of subtly all throughout its questlines.
Fallout however is billed as a post nuclear wasteland game, and given that many people don't play long enough to reach months were the trees would start blooming, its not really cost efficient to do so when few people are going to see it.
They could do it, we could see seasonal foliage in the Skyrim gamejam, its just not worth the time to make different textures for every type of tree, grass, and plant, for all 4 seasons
>>143908806
You're too much of a shitter to go anyway but south, we get it
>>143908965
Do you really think a man like House wants women for their smarts?
>>143909023
You mean the Pitt?
They're going to run out eventually, too.
That or they'll get annexed by a more well put together and aggressive faction.
>>143908669
You did see the terminals, yes?
The ones that mention the Robobrains will slowly remember their past body and life and personality unless they are constantly wiped. Even then they have some vague conscious idea of what their new body is doing, but they have no control.
>>143908965
Same reason he didn't put his own brain in a jar.
biomed gel and robobrain technology is not sufficient to keep one's personality intact.
We see this with Professor Calvert in Point Lookout, and the think Tank in Big MT., both went crazy, or far more crazier, then they were originally.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/MrHouse.txt
>You must be, like... a brain in a jar!
>[FAILED] No. While brains demonstrated some use as organic processors in the robots produced by General Atomics International... They never retained personality once removed from the human body.
>>143908754
>snapta
>not recognizing the symbol of glorious SPARTA
>>143909140
Of course not, but you can't exactly get pleasure from manipulating a robot
>>143909139
You've obviously never played NV or you'd know exactly what I'm talking about.
>>143909306
What about Vault 118?
>>143909306
But on the bright side, they gained super intelligence and telepathy!
Which are both useless when you're insane, but still.What does insane even mean in this case? What medical condition did they have, exactly?
>>143909306
Think Tank were special, and mostly crazy from sabotage and the fact they were crazy beforehand.
Although it's moot because Big MT's technology wasn't widely available
>>143909472
House said all cats are extinct, we know he's full of shit.
also
>vault 118 robobrains
>sane by any measure
yeah no, they went batshit crazy
So I just got the base game and the four DLC packs and my load order is as follows.
I haven't altered a single thing from the game folder yet.
Can I play it like this? Do I need anything else?
Keep in mind I just want the vanillia experience here.
>>143909048
I agree that it's a choice for the psychotically inclined but that doesn't make it a good choice. What is right and what garners personal power are often different things.
>>143909605
Why is it loading alphabetically?
Hey Trainwiz if you're around did you do a mannequin horror place in maxwell's world?
>>143909443
I have played NV so I know exactly how much of a shitter you are
>>143909113
>TES has that sort of subtly all throughout its questlines
lore autists subtlety? Or real visual/audio/mechanic subtlety?
todd treat fallout like a post apocalypse theme park full of murica fuck yeah anyway.
>>143909443
It is 100% possible to avoid all the nasty creatures and reach Vegas directly
House even comments on it
>>143909501
>What does insane even mean in this case?
Anything from egoistical delusions of grandeur to all loss of a moral compass.
We see this in other people whose lives have been extended far past beyond their norm.
Kellogg for instance was growing increasingly more ruthless every mission he completed.
The only way to not go crazy after living for hundreds of years it to be a ghoul, but even they go feral at some point.
>>143909605
Consider getting YUP or another bug fix. You can get ones that don't add or re-enable cut content, so it's vanilla but won't crash every 5 seconds
>>143909774
>House even comments on it
Not him but no he doesn't.
He says his stock line of "you had a long journey to get here" regardless of if you went the long way or the short way.
>>143909791
Do DiMA and Nick count or are they special cases?
>>143909668
>being a sheep
Cattle feed upon grass
Humans feed upon cattle
I feed upon mankind, which makes me the rightful ruler of this world.
>>143909791
No, I mean which disease exactly.
You always hear people talk about crazy, insane, psychotic, etc. etc.
Is it Alzheimer? Dementia? Schizophrenia?
>>143909693
no idea
it shouldn't?
>>143910007
DiMA and nick are robots, with robotic brains, they don't really count.
>>143909774
Please enlighten me. I'd like to know how I can make it there with me level 1 character. Skipping that whole southward bullshit would make the game loads better.
>>143910045
Normally it should be loading NV first with the DLC following.
>>143908669
What backpack mod is this?
>>143909741
Proof maybe? Or at the very least a legitimate argument.
>>143902524
Speaking of Shuan, why is he only the pure human?
Couldn't the Institute grab the adults in Vault 111 and let them breed like rabbits?
>>143910114
You can
>go north and dodge cazadors
>go north and sneak past deathclaws
>go east through the mountains and dodge radscorpians
There's a stealthboy in the Goodsprings schoolhouse to make it easier.
>>143910279
They would have resisted, because they are adults and they know better than to follow a bunch of shady scientists.
Just like Your wife/husband did, and you saw what happened to them.
How does one go about getting a large amount of caps early in Fallout 4?
>>143910034
>being edgelord 5000
Mutual cooperation is what makes humanity strong and is the one thing the Legion is incapable of doing. They wouldn't even cooperate with each other if it wasn't for Caesar.
>>143910279
Shaun wasn't the only pure human.
When asked, he explains he was chosen because he was an infant, and because both of his parents were in the Vault, giving The Institute the best source of shared DNA should Shaun die for whatever reason.
No other family had that many direct blood relatives in the Vault.
Kellogg says during his memory sequence he was no idea why The Director at the time ordered everyone else killed, only that it was likely because the Director didn't want loose ends.
It may have also been to converse power for the backups.
>>143910362
If I ever end up picking that game up again I'll follow your advice and see how it goes.
>>143883536
Yeah like the dumb long paragraphs of text when speaking to npcs lol
>>143910524
I'm no scientist but even I know having only one source of genetic material for a bunch of clones is a bad idea.
The Director was clearly insane.
>>143906703
>try this mod out
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/9048/?
>>143910692
There wasn't one source, there was 3
Shaun was the primary, and his parents Nate/Nora were the backups since they had the same DNA as him.
No one else had the same DNA as him, and no one else had the same amount of shared DNA relatives in the Vault.
>>143896550
You can skip a bunch of stuff by going straight to Ft Hagen, but you'll need to use the console to tcl to get to the scripted parts.
Is Shaun your biological son or just your wife's?
>>143904820
It's more interesting how that's not an excuse for repeatedly making shallower and less feature filled games
Besides, Obsidian only spent a fraction of the time Beth did on their respective Fallouts. A year an a half, while Beth was working 3-4 years on Oblivion with guns.
>>143910979
Nora hints that she got pregnant with Shaun after having sex in a park with Nate
>>143910989
This
It's fucking ridiculous how barren Fallout 4 is compared to New Vegas. They cut out so god damn much.
>>143910809
Three still isn't enough for the "next step" of human evolution.
Unless you want an adam and eve situation with mass inbreeding.
>>143911169
> They cut out so god damn much.
Actually they didn't.
outside the combat zone, that one underwater quest, and some weapons mods and PA paints, Fallout 4 has very little cut content
>>143911204
Lucky they got enough genetic material out of Shaun to perfect their synths before they murdered him.
>tfw can't get Settlement Objects Expansion to work any-more
That was a good 50-60% of my crafting, how am I going to build comfy futuristic shops without it? has anyone got any ideas on how to make it pop back in the menu or am I fucked?
>>143911251
Cut out so much compared to previous games dumbass. Less content and less mechanics.
>>143911204
Synths can't breed you dolt.
FEV makes them sterile, thats why The Institute creates them in a lab.
>>143911426
they can't breed because God doesn't want them
>>143911389
>Cut out so much compared to previous games dumbass
I would disagree DESU.
All of the shit they "cut out" was largely replaced in one way or another
>>143911426
That was intentional, I think. As a control mechanism to prevent escaped synths establishing a super race.
>>143911426
>FEB makes them sterile
Are you sure it isn't the Institute that makes them sterile?
>>143911585
>All of the shit they "cut out" was largely replaced in one way or another
Then why isn't it an RPG?
>>143911698
Nothing suggests The Institue made them sterile, no one talks about being able to make them not sterile.
It seems to be an accepted fact that synths simply cant breed, a fortunate(For The Institute at least) result of the same FEV that gives synths their immunity to radiation, as well as their increased strength and speed.
>>143911251
It actually had a similar amount of quests to new vegas.
>>143911739
Because people like you are retarded and keep on spouting memes.
>>143911739
>le RPG meme
That word doesn't even fucking mean anything
>>143911365
If categories aren't showing up in the settlement crafting menu it's because of load order or conflicts with other mods that add items
>>143911739
The only people I hear not calling it an RPG are people who are ass ravaged and don't like the game.
>>143911859
>It actually had a similar amount of quests to new vegas.
90% of which were cookie-cutter "Go to this location and clear out the raiders/mutants/ghouls"
>Literally one one skill check in the entire game
>Bethesdrones defends this
why is my sanctuary stuck at 8 pop?
>>143911980
Yeah man I know but I've been trying all sorts, I'll keep testing shit out though. Thanks anyway.
>>143910216
it comes with The Rebel outfit
>>143911204
Synths aren't clones of Shaun, they're just based on observations of FEV interacting with his cells.
They're biological machines built with synthetic biology technology, they're significantly more advanced than clones and the Institute can upgrade them at will so a lack of genetic diversity isn't an issue.
>>143899107
>WHAT'S WRONG WITH CURRENT GEN 3 SYNTHS
They look too much like humans, leading to paranoia. The Institute should abandon gen 3 and work on perfecting gen 2, synths that are unmistakably artificial but have "genuine people personalities" like Nick and DiMa would be able to coexist with humans without issue/
>>143912054
>judging a game based on the number of skill checks
>>143912137
Build a recruitment antenna
Build power for it
Make sure it's on
Build beds for new settlers
Build food and water for new settlers
Send settlers from elsewhere to Sanctuary
Build robutt settlers
>>143912228
>Judging an RPG on role-playing mechanics and freedom
>>143909726
No, something better
>>143911858
Is there even a functioning digestive system? Or reproductive organs? I suppose they made synths anatomically accurate to better blend in, but do those parts function as in a normal human?
>>143912228
>Wooooow you want choice in your RPG? How entitled!
>>143912419
>do those parts function as in a normal human?
their metabolism is different, its mentioned synths cant excess accumulate fat
>>143912407
What is it?
>>143912054
>90% of which were cookie-cutter "Go to this location and clear out the raiders/mutants/ghouls"
this has already been proven false more times then I can count.
>Literally one one skill check in the entire game
Modern games should have less skill checks because most skill checks in older RPGs were nothing more then abstractions of things game technology couldn't do at the time.
We don't need shit like perception skill checks to tell if someone is lying, or to find hidden passages, because we can just see from their fully modeled facial movement if they are or not, and we can simply look around the fully modeled world to find them.
We dont need stealth checks to slip past NPCs because we can just do it in real time via sneaking.
We don't need science checks to complete technical puzzles becuase they can just show us the puzzle and let us do it ourselvs.
Gun skills and gun checks have become increasingly less common because we don't need them as we can just aim and shoot the gun in real time.
I would honestly be worried if a modern game did have skill checks in that number, because it usually means the devs are being lazy and just resorting to old tech to actually have to make half-decent gameplay systems.
>>143912220
They could just keep building perfect Gen 3s and keep the mechanical glowing eyes while giving them a personality. That way you can tell who's a synth and who's not by the eyes.
>>143912572
Hell, I don't even know.
>>143900201
Get the "CROSS Cybernetics" mod, it adds a ton of cool cyberware.
fo1>fo2>fot
fo3=nv>fo4
fo4>fot
>>143912525
Skill checks are not choices.
They are gates.
>Do bad thing?
>Do good thing?
>Do more good thing? [NEED 8 INT]
Skill checks are fine and I like them, but acting like they are all important for an RPG is retarded.
>>143912572
Won't tell you unless you test out unique uniques
>>143912220
>Try and make Synths indistinguishable from humans, even trying to make kid synths and shit that act and react exactly like humans
>Still insist they have no free will(but maintain the belief that humans do) and are nothing but slaves
>>143912419
We know synths can eat, shit, and piss, like anyone else.
but synths are biologically static, and lack the ability to age or get fat.
>be settler
>join the minutemen in search for liberty
>some guy in a vault suit decides every aspect of my life
thanks
>>143912784
talk to preston
that guy doesnt talk and runs around with a wide-eyed blank face
i think he might be a synth
>>143912720
Trainwiz, on the topic of unique uniques, look at Atom's Judgement from Far Harbor. It has a unique appearance provided by a legendary, rather than a swappable mod like Kremvh's Tooth.
>>143912749
>ven trying to make kid synths and shit that act and react exactly like humans
Even Doctor Li states the whole project is retarded and she doesn't know why they are doing it.
the kind synth is just Shaun being a retard and thinking he can make you feel better by giving you a fake him to live with so you dont feel like you missed out on as much time.
>>143911204
>Three still isn't enough for the "next step" of human evolution.
It must have been for human genome mapping.
With a "pre-war" map the defects could be edited out resulting in (moire pure) DNA to grow the synthetic tissues and assemble stronger humans.
The Synth gorillas were super strong too.
The problem is that the Synth humans were still human and not immortal gods They still have the incompletely evolved human brains and are just another branch of apes like chimps and gorillas.
They can be just as self destructive as "normal" humans and become extinct too.
>>143912595
not to mention there's STILL people assblasted about tabletop RPGs introducing skills (decades ago) as it limits their perceived roleplaying ability
So I just went from T-45 to X-01. I'm level 30 now. Where the 51? 60? Is every location level dependant so I'm screwed, or are there certain locations they're guaranteed to spawn?
>>143912705
As apposed to Fallout 4
>Do good thing?
>Do good thing
>Do good thing
>Do good thing
>>143912890
Good to know you can override slots then. Might not work for mat swaps, and I would still need models.
>>143912998
HATE GOOD THING (Yes)
>>143912595
>We dont need stealth checks to slip past NPCs because we can just do it in real time via sneaking.
how about sneaking guns into a casino where weapons are banned?
>We don't need science checks to complete technical puzzles becuase they can just show us the puzzle and let us do it ourselvs.
what about science checks to interact with complex robotics or computers the devs have zero chance of fully implementing in game?
>Gun skills and gun checks have become increasingly less common because we don't need them as we can just aim and shoot the gun in real time.
What about gun checks that show the character's technical knowledge about
weapons?
>>143912407
You know, people (mostly jokingly) give you the business for liking trains but I can understand your love of them.
After seeing a woman's organs fully on display while she was still drawing breath I finally understood the beauty of seeing all of those parts working together in unison.
Her heart pumping away as it tried to keep up with her rapid blood loss, her pretty pink lungs beating at the air like there was no tomorrow. And her stomach twitching violently as she finally lost control of her bowels, it was beautiful.
You're not so strange after all.
>>143912595
We do need skill checks because they are a reflection of YOUR CHARACTER'S ability to do those things, not YOUR ability. This allows one character to play differently from another depending on stat and skill distribution, and means a talky-thinker character would play differently or experience different solutions to a problem than a shooty-stabby character.
Good fucking god, people really have forgotten what RPGs are.
>>143912938
>Synth Gorillas are FEV made and that's why they're so violent
shit
>>143912720
That's a fun way to hold things hostage.
>>143912998
Not him but
>People complain about Fallout 3's evil choices not being realistic
>All of Fallout 4's choices are just varying shades of grey where you help someone out at the cost of someone else
>People now complain about that.
>>143913156
>>143913229
No don't you understand, role-playing in an RPG is bad, and we should all thank Basedthesda for dumbing Fallout down into an FPS where we have no options all all the gamelay revolves around shooting.
>>143913210
I bet you're loads of fun at parties.
>>143902608
Eh, maybe PER so you can picklocks?
>>143913229
>Current year
>Still pushing the false notion that you aren't the character when every RPG dev every has always said its meant to be an idealized version of yourself.
Your from NMA arent you?
>>143913273
Fallout 3's evil choices were bad because they were silly and over the top. The solution is to improve that, not fucking remove it completely and make everything worse, Jesus Christ.
>>143913440
>its meant to be an idealized version of yourself
That's not even role-playing that's just self-inserting.
>>143913440
>every RPG dev ever
If you think that Beth and Bioware are the only RPG developers, sure.
>>143913471
>silly and over the top is now bad
>the series has always had silly and over the top shit
they're just following suit
>>143913210
Exactly
>>143913471
And they did improve it, by making shit more grey and realistic.
Which is what Obsidiots were asking for all the time anyways
I'm gonna self insert an attractive and brave version of myself
true roleplaying
>>143913648
They're also two of the worst RPG devs too at that, known for their dumbing-down and streamlining for casuals.
>>143913707
It's barely even grey, it's literally:
>Yes I'll help
>Yes I'll help
>I GUESS I'll reluctantly help
>Yes I'll help
>>143912595
I think some people have trouble defining something as an rpg if it lacks traditional rpg elements.
I miss Fable.
>>143913229
Persuasion still exists.
Also your character doesn't need to be charismatic at all to be a great talker with skill points.
>>143913210
>stomach twitching violently as she finally lost control of her bowels
Confirmed for never having seen inside an adominal cavity.
>>143913830
You are aware you can just walk away if you want? totally ignoring the quest entirely.
I swear, its like, some idiots cant think past the dialogue and realize you can do shit other then answer the question
>>143913905
You're saying you wouldn't heave violently if you started shitting yourself in front of someone else?
>>143913967
>Quest choices are 'do ques' and 'don't do quest'
RPG of the fucking millennium. Bethesda are too based for this world.
>Have major autism
>Want experience point
>Creek with tons of blood bugs
>Shoot one, 8 more appear, too much
>Run into base, sentries kill them
>Get no experience
NO EXPERIENCE?! THEY ARE MY SENTRIES!!!! Now I will have to do this over and over again until I kill them all by myself
>>143913773
just make you sure have paper thin lips or you'll trigger /fog/
>>143913273
The vast majority of choices are "do this" or "walk away," not grey. Far Harbor was a nice exception but it still suffered from some traditional Bethesda flaws: Everyone and their mom is essential and shit like the Institute and BoS options are just premature bad ends without loot or exposition. Don't even offer options like that if you're not going to flesh them out.
Bethesda tried very hard to imitate New Vegas' faction war but they just don't /get it/. There are still too many essential NPCs, even "your faction," the Minutemen, is just being ordered around on meaningless radiant quests by other NPCs, and they were totally out of their depth on the philosophy of the Synths, constantly contradicting themselves with old-world robots like Curie and Codsworth, because cute was more important than consistency. Constantly bringing up your damn family is another huge mistake 4 makes. Whoever thought up the main quest, Mama Murphy, Shaun/Father, just needs to never write again.
>sleep in nice clean bed in the institute
>get parasites
>>143908145
anyone?
My waifu is the best, best, BEST!
>>143914140
You got your experience for creating your sentries.
Are there mods which don't have the ridiculous 'balance' of having automatic receivers do less damage?
>>143914140
There are much easier ways to get experience, anon
>>143914165
>Mama Murphy
Fuck me I never thought they could make a character more unlikable than 3dog, but here we are
>>143914104
If you ignore non radiant quests sure.
>>143914165
I love how bethesda tried to recreate the Master suicide dialogue in 3. I like fallout 3, but that particular thing can sum up the entire experience of fallout 4. Story over rpg elements, and the story is written by a literal retard. I dunno why this general is full of fo4 shit except perhaps that /tesg/ spilled over.
>>143914165
>Bethesda tried very hard to imitate New Vegas' faction war but they just don't /get it/.
Odd you would say that because I found each of the factions in Fo4 far more realteable and agreeable then those in NV
>There are still too many essential NPCs
A. I never ran into the problem of trying to kill someone who is essential
B. why does this matter when the vast majority of RPGs going back even before Baldurs Gate didn't let you attack civilian NPcs at all?
>nd they were totally out of their depth on the philosophy of the Synths, constantly contradicting themselves with old-world robots like Curie and Codsworth, because cute was more important than consistency
In what way? Fallout 4 was consistently clear that robots like Codsworth and curie lack true AI and intelligence, which is why Curie needed to become a synth in the first place.
>Whoever thought up the main quest, Mama Murphy, Shaun/Father, just needs to never write again.
Its literally the same shit every Fallout game san NV has done. Hell Fallout 2 had your mom, aunt, and cousin
>>143914357
Have them require more frequent maintenance, like they do in real life.
>>143914408
>YOU'RE TIED TO THIS PLACE KID
>>143914165
>There are still too many essential NPCs, even "your faction," the Minutemen, is just being ordered around on meaningless radiant quests by other NPCs
Like the yes man in new Vegas?
>>143914578
That doesn't answer my question though
>>143912029
I suppose to be fair, this is all the same level of shit we got with the original Deus Ex, and that game was considered revolutionary and the greatest game released.
But with Fallout 4, it faces much sterner criticism due to not being unique for it's time and needing to live up to a legacy.
>>143914640
And he's practically the only one faggot.
>>143913308
>we should all thank Basedthesda for dumbing Fallout down into an FPS
>Stop with this retarded meme
We should all thank Bethesda for dumbing Fallout down into an Adventure game with FPS
elements for the casual game players who cannot follow the nonobvious story line.
>>143910481
>open console
>type player.additem f 999999
>>143914640
His quests aren't radiant and do have an end goal, even if it ends up not being the one you think you're working toward. The Minutemen just drag on-and-fucking on "help this settlement" shit with no fucking payoff.
>>143910481
Loot everything.
Sell it.
>>143913083
>>143912627
Too easy to conceal. Unless it's obvious they can't pass as people, humans simply aren't going to accept them. It's probably why we genocided all the other hominids.
>>143914471
>Take this power armor and clear out the raiders
>Fetch me some paint and clear out the raiders
>Fetch me this robot and clear out the raiders
>Come with me and clear out these Synths
>Fetch me these BoS holotapes, oh and along the way clear out the mutants and ghouls
>Go find Nick and clear out the Raide-I mean, Triggermen
>Go find Kallog and clear out the Synths
Holy fuck these non-radiant quest are so good, thank you Basedthesda.
What's better fo4 or fot, I can't decide? I really like them both and think they're relatable in quality.
>>143910481
kill
loot
return
Where I get ceramics
>>143913830
Actually one of the options is typically
>Tell me about <random subject> before I agree to help
FO4 should've just introduced more types of radiant quests I M H O
If you've ever played Mount & Blade, you know what I mean, that game is 100% radiant quests and yet there's a bit of variety in them:
>Tax a village for a lord, choose to tax them lightly or heavily, then either keep the gold for yourself or give it to the lord
>Train villagers to fight better, then lead them into battle against the bandits that try to raid them
>Kill all of the looters that are ransacking the countryside and kill them
>Escort a caravan to a distant city
>Take a shipment of goods to a distant city
>Bring cattle to an army in need of food
>Discover the spy, then follow him to his secret meeting with his conspirators, and kill everyone before they flees to the safety of enemy lands
>Be a spy yourself
>Rescue an imprisoned lord
>Hunt down a renegade of the hiding amongst a village and claim his bounty
etc
>>143915450
If you're lucky, sometimes they don't even bother.
>>143914558
Oh fuck off, House is Institute(elitist guys sitting in their safe space), BoS in NCR(snobby imperialists but they help people), Minutemen is Yes Man(failsafe, can't die, you're ostensibly the leader but unlike Yes Man you have no actual control)
The difference being House isn't a psychopath murdering people and replacing them for fun, the NCR is an actual government that doesn't shoot random people for being robutts
It's okay if you can't attack NPCs. What's not okay is letting you attack them and then stopping you from killing them, leaving them aggro'd against you but unkillable, just because muh plot. Especially when most people can be killed but then it surprises you with random essential ones thrown in.
Far Harbor was exceptionally guilty of it. Every named NPC in the towns was fucking essential. You couldn't even turn on FH if you lacked the CHA to stop them from attacking Acadia, you had to sit and watch.
That's exactly the fucking problem. You can't "become" a Synth. She was MADE as a Nanny and shouldn't have had the capacity to ask for what she did or adapt to completely foreign technology in the new body.
HAVE YOU SEEN A BABY? No, the others don't even come close to the trainwreck that is the first half of 4's main quest. Like, why the hell are you listening to this drugged up bitch? This is the best justification they could think up for proceeding to DC? And why you go fucking around in Kellog's brain after you kill him, just in case?
>>143914893
We should all thank Bethesda for making the game have a much, much, much, much larger market appeal and thus sell in higher and higher quantities, prompting a future for the series that it lacked.
After all, if the game was so great during the 1/2/T times why did they go under before they made Van Buren a reality?
>>143914051
No, he's saying the stomach does not twitch, that would be the diaphragm.
Is detonating the master and never getting to meet or talk to him a good ending? It seems like you would kind of be left in the dark if you took that action.
>>143915518
>Arguing with a Bethesda fanboy
I don't even know why I bother.
>>143914165
>Mama Murphy,
Am I the only person who likes her? She should have been black, and fat, but what's not to love about a crazy junkie grandma who may or may not have psychic powers?
>>143915518
Sounds like
http://trainwiz.tumblr.com/post/145045208016/i-added-an-effect-to-my-character-that-makes-them
>Reach Kellogg
>Options are "plead for son's return", "ask normally for son's return" "angrily ask for son's return" and "sarcastically ask for son's return"
nice """game"""
>>143914261
>microcephaly
>>143914640
Yes Man was pretty smart. They made a plot reason for him coming back instead of just an injured pose. You can resolve his quests however you want, no matter how counter intuitive it might be - helping factions side with Caesar or the NCR to wipe them out later, or getting them to ally with you and survive. Or wiping them out yourself immediately. Or ignoring them altogether. He doesn't just tell you to walk into Gomorrah and kill everyone.
>>143915756
She's pushed as the "cool" character with no reason to make you see her that way, just like Three Dog.
>>143915537
I really hate how the BoS is portrayed in fo4. If you played the first two games, you know that Maxon is actually just kind of an asshole and is all talk. They're just going to remove all synths and then go away to let the people build their lives. But they have to try to hide how good this is to invent some kind of downside.
>>143915563
>After all, if the game was so great during the 1/2/T times why did they go under before they made Van Buren a reality?
Because Herve Caen took over the company after the previous founders left, and directing all funding and effort into making shitty spin-offs that no one wanted like BoS, instead of finishing the original Fallout 3 which they had already started by never got to complete.
>>143914640
Yes Man isn't essential, he just respawns if you kill him.
Can someone with experience in the CK tell me how I chop off one side of an occlusion cube?
>>143915563
Interplay was very poorly managed after they were sold to make some bucks. That's pretty much it.
>>143914816
Minutemen quests are just requests by settlers.
You have 3 options kill the on who requested it, ignore it, or do the quest.
With kidnapping you can even just pay the ransom.
Heck sometimes it gives you the option to just pay the bounty.
>>143914943
You're comparing the radiant side quests to the main questline.
>>143915181
You realize that a great many rpg revolve around violence.
>Fetch me these BoS holotapes, oh and along the way clear out the mutants and ghouls
>Go find Nick and clear out the Raide-I mean, Triggermen
Because there was nothing else involved in these quests.
>Go find Kallog and clear out the Synths
Because you should talk yourself out of any situation even when it makes no sense.
Did they shove violence into most of the quests? Yes.
Did all quests just involve violence?
No.
>>143915991
Was Fo3 all but done before getting the axe?
>>143915929
Cool is not the vibe I got from her, she struck me as a very damaged person with serious drug and psychiatric issues. She's not really part of the plot either, and you don't have to keep hearing her on the radio all the damn time. 3Dog is a whole level of hateable worse than Mana Murphy.
>>143915931
East coast hasn't really been completely orthodox if you haven't noticed.
>>143915834
To be fair, as much as I loved F:NV and previous games in the series, all too often you'd pick an entirely different conversation option and still end up on the same conversation path - often times with the EXACT SAME responses from other NPCs.
>>143916078
That's a modelling issue, not a CK one.
Is there a mod which makes underwear look better?
I'm not looking for like, lingerie or anything, but the default underwear literally looks like badly textured white paint.
>>143915931
The NCR pulled it off better because they aren't threatening people undeservedly. They're very gritty realistic insofar as being a sluggish bureaucratic mess that basically wants to bring order to the Mojave.
The BoS come off as too unnecessarily violent when it comes to issues like Danse and all the random Synths trying to live peacefully in Boston.
The Institute and BoS are just unreasonably vile to everyone outside their organizations. RR isn't far behind with shit like WOULD YOU GIVE YOUR LIFE FOR A SYNTH, they're all downright obsessed.
>>143916371
It wouldnt be entertaining otherwise
>>143916510
At least it's better than CBBE nevernude
>>143916498
Right. I don't think you know what you're talking about.
>>143916527
>The NCR pulled it off better because they aren't threatening people undeservedly. They're very gritty realistic insofar as being a sluggish bureaucratic mess that basically wants to bring order to the Mojave.
No they want the damn. They don't care what the residents think.
>>143915928
Yes man was the way to complete the game if you decided to fuck everyone else over.
Its been a while, but I'm pretty sure he advocated violence.
Considering I don't have a good gaming PC until later this summer, I think I made a pretty good character.
>>143915537
>The difference being House isn't a psychopath murdering people and replacing them for fun, the NCR is an actual government that doesn't shoot random people for being robutts
You right, in New Vegas
-The NCR are a totally incompetent faction, tripping over themselves at every turn, and totally unable to do even basic tasks such as killing ants, recusing a few soldiers from a mine, and checking up on Nipton, without needing the player to do it
On the other hand the BoS defeated the Enclave, put down a super mutant horde larger then the Master's, built an airship, travel over 400 miles, and started fucking the hordes of the Commonwealth up without your help.
In New Vegas, House is a totally egotistical idiots, whose every plan has backfired, who his chosen three families have all turned on him in one way or another, and whose hand picked apprentice betrayed him, and his despite claiming to want to take over Vegas, he has done everything to make everyone hate him.
On the other hand, The Institute has taken technology far beyond even House's wetting dreams, successfully perfect FEV, created a race of near perfect human clones, and successfully used subterfuge to keep an entire wasteland's people down, to the point they are all afraid to even try to stand up to them.
In New Vegas, Yes Man is an easily re programmable robot who could easily be captured and made to turn against you, and the Yes Man ending is nothing but a quasi anarchic police state where nothing really gets better
In Fallout 4, the Minutemen are a movement of the people that eventually unifies the Commonwealth under a single flag and works to the betterment of the wasteland
In New Vegas, Caesar's Legion are a bunch of tribal idiots who irrationally shun technology, and medicines, they crucify and enslave people for no real reason beyond its easy.
In Fallout 4, the railroad is a group dedicated to the cause of freeing the Enslaved, and has successfully managed to (cont)
>>143916527
The ncr pulled off what better? The BoS doesn't want to control anything. They just hide all the technology and crush roaches. Then they go away and let the people do whatever. They aren't even comparable entities. The BoS could have completely controlled the NCR at its roots and they declined. One is government and the other is just a helpful force that leaves.
>>143916972
>600x338
>A random update uninstalled all my DLC so now I can't play my main save
Anyway, did anyone actually enjoy that shitty Minecraft rip-off mission in Far Harbour? It was possibly the most annoying and boring thing I've done all game.
>>143917003
(cont) establish operations from Boston all the way down to D.C. ,and have managed to survive and outwit the most technologically advanced faction on the planet for decades.
It is any wonder I find Fo4's factions more enjoyable when they can actually manage to get shit done themselves?
>>143876449
More then ready to enter that dungeon with only my fist OP.
http://i.imgur.com/VCxqhT7.png (NSFW)
Don't you just love the smell of radiation and tobacco in the morning?
>>143917343
Why is she so ugly anon?
What do you think about splitting /fog/ into /fog/ and /fo4g/ until all of the dlcs are done and the smoke has cleared?
>>143917453
This is retarded.
What's a fun and famous libertarian/conservative/christian I can roleplay as?
>>143916174
>>Go find Kallog and clear out the Synths
>Because you should talk yourself out of any situation even when it makes no sense.
There can be NO pacifist solution here, Kellogg knows he was set up by Father to be killed and is tired, he would never retire as the Synth assistants would turn on him and try to kill him and he may even have a bomb in his head.
Kellogg cannot teleport and you would still end up having to go to the RR for help.
>>143916953
Yes Man agrees with whatever you do. He'll lampshade bad decisions but he can't tell you no. The only necessary thing to side with him is killing House. It is indeed a backup if you should fuck over both Legion and NCR, but it's still a fully fleshed out ending on its own and doesn't require that. "Choose your neighbors!"
>>143917516
No its not. There's so many posts about fo4 that trying to start a conversation about the other games just gets buried.
>>143916527
>The BoS come off as too unnecessarily violent when it comes to issues like Danse and all the random Synths trying to live peacefully in Boston.
The BoS acts no differently then 99% of the wastelanders do.
Few like ghouls, or synths.
Even in the NCR racism against ghouls and super mutants is still present after 100 years
>>143917643
>There's so many posts about fo4 that trying to start a conversation about the other games just gets buried.
So like when NV came out?
Yeah, no. Splitting the thread is retarded.
>>143917826
Yes like when NV came out. Generals do it all time.
>>143917175
>Anyway, did anyone actually enjoy that shitty Minecraft rip-off mission in Far Harbour? It was possibly the most annoying and boring thing I've done all game.
It was much better than the VR game in FO3 "Tranquility Lane".
>>143918154
I thought that was a highlight of fo3?
>>143917453
How about /tesg/ goes back home since they're all only playing it as a titty simulator anyway.
>>143918013
Yeah, still, splitting the thread is retarded.
If you did, the non Fo4 thread would just die off until Fo4s DLc is all out since most people are talking about it becuase its the newest thing.
If people wanted to talk about NV, or Fo3., or 1/2/3 tactics, they would
So is the only important character to have in Far Harbor Nick? I thought the others would have some nice dialogue as well.
>>143917668
And yet they basically coexist without murdering each other all the time, Institute meddling aside. Institute is the whole source of Synth related violence anyway. Before the Brotherhood came there was no suggestion of mass purging. Even the expulsion of Ghouls from DC is implied to be the Institute's doing through McDonough.
>>143915439
toilets
coffee cups
>>143917343
what the fuck is that shit?
>>143918274
the other base game companions have no new dialogue because they couldn't get most of the actors back to record new lines.
>>143918264
They can't talk about those games because they get buried under fo4 posts. Fo4 being one of the most popular games at the moment for people to play in general.
>>143917453
FUCK OFF with this shit
we've been over this
>rabid ragstag runs out of no where and one shots me
>crit to the head(s) with shotgun at near point blank does about 1/50th of his health
survival mode is kinda bullshit
>>143918772
Really, how did it go? I was busy playing video games and avoiding the general since it went to shit.
>>143916972
So you bought it on paystation?
>>143917343
Nice tits.
>>143918013
You're fucking retarded. I bet you look like this.
>>143918274
Yea you'd think Deacon or Danse would mention the giant synth compound or Cait would say something about protecting Far Harbor from the Children of Atom or something like that.
>>143915439
Coffee cups, some plates, ash trays, vases, shipment from Myrna.
>>143918451
>Even the expulsion of Ghouls from DC is implied to be the Institute's doing through McDonough.
Yes, but even Hancocs notes that even if the Institute was repsoncible for it those people's racism was still their own.
The Institute took advantage of their racism to get them thrown out, but they didn't make the people drag ghouls out of their homes, beat them, kill them, or otherwise harm them.
People hate ghouls, even in The Capital Wasteland the ghouls lived in Underworld not because they wanted too, but because the people of the wasteland drove them there.
Even in more civilized places like the NCR, people like Aster mention ghouls should just be put out of their misery, all the ghouls rangers are isolated in a tiny outpost, and NCr government constantly send merc to harass super mutants.
ghouls, super mutants, synths, any mutant or creature not human is hated by the normal people of the wasteland, and it takes only the slightest spark for the people to turn on them.
this has been a staple of the series since Fallout 1
> Institute is the whole source of Synth related violence anyway
More like the Railraod, since they are the ones hiding synths all over the place.
>>143917549
Robert A. Heinlein. He was a prolific science fiction author, one of the "Big Three' along with Isaac Asimov and Arthur C. Clarke who practically invented the concept of powered armor with his novel Starship Troopers (some may argue it was actually E.E. "Doc" Smith who first described a similar concept in his Lensmen novels). The man was staunchly Libertarian and it showed in his writings, particularly in the novel The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress, which was basically the American Revolution IN SPACE! He was also an officer in the US Navy but received a medical discharge just a few years before WWII broke out after contracting Tuberculosis. He wasn't very religious though. In fact, his novel Stranger In A Strange Land was intended to be a satire of religion though much to his chagrin the hippie movement adopted it as their bible, even going so far as to make pilgrimages to his house to offer "oblations to his altar" (Heinlein once told a friend that he was going to put up an electrified fence to keep them off his property one time).
>>143881343
20-30 in interiors, max 16 walking around the section.
>>143912705
you forgot >sarcastic
Does anyone have the image of that set of posts where a guy was explaining why Caesar's Legion wasn't anything like the real Roman Empire, more like Caesar's deluded vision of them? I'm interested in what he had to say (even though a lot of arguing/squabbling rose from it)
>>143919023
Speaking of Hancock and the DC Deghouling, you'd think he'd have noticed his brother being replaced by a synth.
How Power Armor should work:
>Needs an excuse to be delivered. Maybe with BoS/Minutemen(with vertibirds) a vertibird could drop it on you, or with Institute they just teleport it to you. Before that, maybe just some fanboy or something who will happily deliver it to you on foot.
>Power Cores are destroyed from overheating, not from running out (like the lore says)
>When Power is low, a warning alarm starts and warning lights. At this point the core will be glowing on the players back. The player needs to exit the power armor and allow the core some time to cool. The core will fully recharge after a few minutes. Power Armor can be used as cover until this completes.
>If the player does not exit, the core is ejected and explodes (like NPC PA does), and then the suit is stuck in "no power" mode. The player can exit the PA and place a fresh core in it.
>Cores can't be removed while they are low power (too hot to touch), but they CAN be manually ejected if they player wishes to replace them immediately. Cores taking damage reduces power, possibly causing the PA to eject its core even while shut down.
>Cores are less common.
>>143918923
Damn you totally got me. I guess I must be retarded when I post about anything other than fo4 and no one has any clue about it. Must be me and not the general.
>>143919526
That sounds really unspeakably shit. Please don't even think about becoming a game designer.
>>143919431
He actually says at first the thought his brother was replaced, but then he discounted the idea because if he was a replacement, they had gotten him too perfect.
He even mentions that if his borther was a replacement that had even gotten his stupid walk exactly right
>>143919526
>The player needs to exit the power armor and allow the core some time to cool.
>not blowing steam out of your ears like a sentry bot
>>143917395What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I have had extensive cybernetic augmentation, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on various bandit and raider hideouts, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper of any merc group in the Commonwealth, Mojave and Capital Wasteland. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this scorched Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the airwaves? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the former USA and your signal is being homed in on right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to a variety of abilities provided by my implants and I will use them to their full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo!
>>143919023
The Railroad isn't the one killing people to replace them. This is where all the chaos and paranoia comes from.
Discrimination and segregation are one thing. Purging is another, and what the Brotherhood is advocating now. They and the Institute are the sparks.
>>143919634
Don't ever think about becoming a game tester, if this is your quality of feedback.
>>143919810
Emergency cooling would make a good torso upgrade. Maybe an arm upgrade to allow swapping cores without exiting. A little roboarm on the shoulder.
>>143919585
>boohoo nobody wants to talk about what i want to talk about
Can we talk about how you can be a read porn mags and star in a porno in Fallout 2? Is that something anybody wants to talk about? No? SPLIT THE GENERAL SO I CAN TALK ABOUT THAT
>>143919928
Did anyone else fight for the Brotherhood, but take Synth Shaun home with them?
>>143919939
Yeah, let me just type down a big fucking post explaining the exact detail and minutiae of why your ideas are shit. I'll get right on that.
>>143919365
Caesar never claimed to be the re-creation of the Roman Empire, he is very aware all he has is a horde of bandits and is simply using the trappings of Rome
>>143919526
>having cores at all
although I do like the overheating bit
that should only apply to T51 and X01
the charging armors would be 45 and 60 and Raider
they're the same anyway
>>143920076you could have said something constructive in fewer words than you've already typed
>>143920052
Synth Shaun is creepy
Can I cancel that program as Director
>>143919928
>The Railroad isn't the one killing people to replace them.
The Railroad is the one covertly dropping synths into most communities
Magnolia, Sturges, Danse, all Railroad moved synths.
The only people we see The Institue replace are
-The Mayor of D.C.
-Roger Warwick
-That one guy in Goodneighbor
-Art
None of which have gotten discovered except the guy in goodneighbor.
The railroad is more at fault for synths popping up then the Institute is, hell, The Institute even has the SRB to bring them back EXACTLY SO theres not synths wandering around the general populace.
>>143920170I didn't care to
>tfw you're too uncharismatic to know how to cook food
Why is /fog/ complaining about the lack of muh skill checks in the game when I can't cook food without being level 15 and 6 charisma?
new thread
>>143920279
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>>143920279
>>143920264I managed to piece that together
>>143912146
What's the outfit you're wearing?
I know that's the Metro Ranger Helmet, but I wanna know what the coat is if possible.
>>143920219
No one would be freaking out over Synths if the Institute just made up people and used them to surveillance and farm instead of murder and sabotage
Like Valentine
Nobody's afraid of them because they're robutts
They're afraid the robutts are gonna murder their families
>>143920374Well I guess that settles that then
>>143880843
what the fuck is the sole survivor wearing in that third pic?
>>143918780
>I have no idea how to build in streamlined casual game
>>143904575
I gave Nick a combat shotgun fully modded out without a scope that I named "The Code" and kellogg's .44 as a side piece. I contemplated a machine gun, but they look like tommy guns and those were usually used by the bad guys.
>>143912992
t60 is a guaranteed gift in the Prydwen when you become a knight.
You can get two guaranteed t-51 sets in Far Harbor in the Vim! factory.
>>143885929
Late, but does anyone know what this anon is referring to? Does the mod have some annoying bug?
jesus fuck the ending of Automatron is a fuckfest in Survival
was I blind or was there no bed from the start of the dungeon to the end of the robot gauntlet?
>>143919169
>tell people that blind faith (religion) is stupid
>they begin to follow you unquestioningly
>even attempting to mold themselves after you
Why even try desu
