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A thread for all simulation games: racing sims, flight sims, train sims, submarine sims, tank sims, anything else sims which do not have enough traffic to sustain their own independent generals.
Extra attention grabbing search terms for example welcome sims
/fsg/ /dcsg/ /fsxg/ /bmsg/ /shg/ /rofg/ /etsg/ /il2g/ /lfsg/ /tsg/
/fsg/ Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/flightsimgeneral
/fsg/ TeamSpeak:
ts.artificialanimation.com:7997
Or whatever is on the group's profile
BMS download links
https://mega.nz/#!0BlTkazA!VUwoKAzavtJ3qIUy7lEF8D8MFjbI_Si-r6nwC3wQZYQ
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/54569phfy8au7/BMS4.33_setup
http://www.e-haf.org/PublicFTP/320/BMS_4.33/Falcon_BMS_4.33_U1_Setup.zip
Planefag pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/Zb0U61in
Silent Hunter 3 pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/jNSvhFfY
Dangerous Waters pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/qvxk755r
FPSchazly's Dangerous Waters tutorials:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOSvzqNmdX71x2COOyM-p2qHIpRNOvpGQ
Repository of various aviation related material:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3EQDvufMNdeTUh4SE9WV0txa0E&usp=drive_web
>Example of welcome sims:
Falcon BMS
DCS World
Rise of Flight
IL-2
Combat Helo
Microsoft Flight Simulator
X-Plane
Euro truck sim
Assetto Corsa
rFactor 2
Live for Speed
SAM Simulator
Steel Beasts Pro
Steel Armor: Blaze of War
Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum
Silent Hunter
Train Simulator
Farming Simulator 2015
>Example of non-welcome games:
Arm* 3
Ac* Combat
W*r Thunder
World of ____
First for planes that will never happen.
gods plane
nth for furries ruin everything
BMS ops WHEN
>>143780045
Ban Jester WHEN
>>143780045
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75j_TINcBmY
F5 live.
>>143782341
wtf he just took off and that was it?
>>143783024
But of course my friend! Do you doubt what ED has to offer? As you can see this plane at take off is already worth at least 70$.
BUY MORE MODULES
>>143783264
lmao wat
He said he was going to show an A/A and an A/G segment and then he just randomly shut it down.
>>143783024
>>143783264
They really need to hire a community manager, that actually does things.
>>143783426
On the next stream my friend! Until then why not preorder this quality module? Surely seeing an F-5 taking off is worth 70$ right?
BUY MORE MODULES
>>143783651
>Surely seeing an F-5 taking off is worth 50$ right?
It is from BST imo.
>>143780045
E-8 > F-16
>>143785096
I'm still salty that we're getting the most boring harrier and not a radar equipped one or a GR9 but it's good to know Razbam aren't wasting all their time on BR meme shitplanes.
>>143783426
>He said he was going to show an A/A and an A/G segment and then he just randomly shut it down.
No he didn't?
Also, jeez wags is shit at taxiing.
>>143785313
You will get the radar equipped one (and the GR9 if they can help it) but not until ED pulls its finger out of its arse and finishes the ground radar tech.
>>143785653
I actually doubt we'll see a GR9 after this variant, it just wouldn't sell well if there had already been a USMC harrier available. I doubt extra pylons and fancy TGPs would encourage anyone but the hardest britaboo to buy a second very similar variant of an aircraft they already own.
>>143785842
Wouldn't the GR9 be literally FREE money for RAZBAM?
>>143786027
Ehhhh, idk. If the GR9 was released, their AV-8 would have already been out for ages. Personally for me to buy a second harrier variant it'd have to be significantly different, like a Sea Harrier (either version) or something.
>>143786276
I mean, making a GR9 wouldn't take that much effort if you already made the AV-8, right? And besides you can be rest assured that someone will always buy your shit (see: VEAO, shitty trainers, WW2 birds that have absolutely fuckall to do IN DCS).
>>143786537
The problem comes from all the systems modelling. The night attack version and the AV-8B use US system, the later having the radar from the F-18; the GR9 however uses an entirely different system design (which is one of the reasons they're not doing it first despite it winning the vote, they don't have the documentation for it).
Upgrading the NA to the B would probably be quite simple, the GR9 however would likely mean having to redo half the whole module.
>>143786276
Just give the existing owners a big discount and you're all set.
Hope it doesn't fall through desu.
How many tracks can the F-16 bug in TWS?
Wags did an F-5E video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qg4ouwpxH8
>>143790083
Yeah it's been posted, looks *very* simple.Slavs BTFO at their own design philosophy.
>>143785096
Isn't Combat Air Patrol supposed to be nothing but that?
>>143791615
CAP2 is a different harrier and will be FC3 style simulation with a few clickable MFD buttons afaik.
>>143790083
Wow, even Wags thinks the forums are shit.
>>143792265
How'd you come to that conclusion?
>>143792361
At the start of this video he says
"This makes me really appreciate the job here, pretty much offsets the discussion forums"
Blue flags ops now
>>143792547
Wags secretly or not so secretly hates the community or at least the forum community.
He had a "reading the forums will lead you to suffering from tourette syndrome" in his signature.
>>143792923
Blueflag now
Serious question, why do these trees have heat signatures?
BLUEFLAG NOW WE NEED PILOTS
>>143793225
Because 1.5 fucked FLIR.
>>143793225
Because of the way it's coded, DCS doesn;t have a thermal texture like arma for example, i don't really know how it works desu, it seems to be a negative image plus something added to it.
>>143793110
Any landing you walk away from...
I haven't been able to touch vidya for 3 months because BMQ. Is the M2K good yet? Would it be better to wait for the F5E? Shame it won't have Mavs.
Never forget
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1464556239437.webm
>>143795165
;_;7
>>143793225
Why shouldn't they?
If anyone cares.
>not the super tucano
>all of my why
>>143796709
>gay old version without cool mfds
Fuck that.
>>143796709
Didn't the "people" from the ED forums explicitly say that they wanted the Super Tucano?
>>143797067
We're getting both. Calm your tits
I wish we could get a prop plane that could fire AIM-120s or R-27ER/Ts
Giving DCS a try after a few years away from simming, I used to do IL-2 so this is my first fast jet sim
Man is it hard to see anyone, at 1600x900 other aircraft seem to be basically invisible unless they're right on top of you
I did the dogfight instant action mission with the SU-25T and after the first head-on pass couldn't pick up the A-10s again without cheating with external views
Do you have any advice for situational awareness? Or is it simply a matter of getting gud
do the graphics settings have any effect? I have everything set to low I think.
>>143797104
Are we? I've seen nothing about the super tucano (other than everyone rightly whining about not getting it).
>>143797238
Do you have model enlargement turned on?
>>143797238
Model enlargement. Also the lower the resolution the easier it should be to see them, you've actually got an advantage over us with 1080 monitors, git gud.
>>143797238
Turn your ground textures into a blur and it'll be a bit easier to see stuff.
>>143796571
There's a difference between reflected heat and exothermic heat, and the trees in DCS are apparently putting off more heat than a tank's engine
>>143800381
You have proof of your claim?
You doubt the professionals over at ED?
You a pilot that has a TGP at home?
BUY MORE MODULES
>>143800280
>tfw ED still uses the shitty explosions
>>143801446
>it's okay when bms does it
Nothing like coming home after a hard night's work.
>>143801613
BMS' aren't shit though, especially since they're running under dx9.
>>143801834
They look fake as fuck.
>>143802316
????
>>143797238
>>143797384
>>143797489
I have model enlargement set to medium.
Here's what I mean when I say these guys are invisible, the right is zoomed out only barely from the left, but it's like a switch is flipped
is this the model enlargement kicking in? Should I try turning it off?
>>143802808
>is this the model enlargement kicking in? Should I try turning it off?
Yes, no. Try setting it to high, maybe use labels for getting you accustomed, and keep this in mind: in all other sims model enlargement is native, and something done out of necessity. In DCS it became a thing like 4 months ago tops (and some suspect only because the devs tried playing with the Oculus Rift and couldn't see jackshit, which sounds really plausible) and its handled like ass. Most of the retarded community is actually against model enlargement too.
>>143802316
This just in volumetrics in games look bad.
>kill everything at beslan
>no enemies in sight
>3 of us land
>huey landed troops
>beslan repairs itself anyway
>enemy Mi-8 spawns fully started up and with 23mm cannons
>kills us all
Why is this bullshit allowed?
>>143796709
>>143796932
Proprietary Embraer avionics, gibe monies befor plos
capture sochi pls
>>143804153
>>143804153
GET REKT BY MI8
>>143804153
bodied
>>143804153
OUT
FUCKING
SKILLED
>>143804153
Absolutely fucking removed
![2000px-Adidas_Logo.svg[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/t5lUyW9.png "2000px-Adidas_Logo.svg[1].png")
>>143804153
>>143805774
I chuckled.
>>143802808
Yeah, the implementation of enlargement is pretty fucked. An anon here created a model visibility mod that you can find on the forum.
>>143804153
And that's why you don't land all of your planes at once, leaving one in orbit of the field if it's contested.
Fucking idiots.
>>143804153
>>143806913
>i didn't hit the IFF button
admittedly, picking hostiles that are extremely close to friendlies is absurdly tricky when your only way of slewing left/right is with the nose
![hughes-oh6-cayuse-loach[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2dG7zHt.jpg "hughes-oh6-cayuse-loach[1].jpg")
how autismo am I for wanting this thing in DCS
I mean I guess an A/MH-6 would be a bit better because better engine and more useable payload, but I dunno man I just have the biggest boner for Loaches.
>>143808447
Well I meant to make it about the R-13M1.
Right now its seeker head is insane and will lock so far off boresight that I have literally no fucking idea what it is looking at.
>>143808525Not even autistic for wanting a Loach
>>143808639
All the IR missiles are like that right now, shit's retarded, ironically they somehow fucked the IR seekers up while patching the radar.
I've been able to have some fun with it being fucked up like that in multiplayer/blue flag, though, if you're in a 1v1 fight you can get some sneaky off-boresight shots off in the current 80s blue flag mission.
F-15s generally have more than enough energy to outrun them, but if you make them go slow, you can punish 'em with the shitty r-60s still, r-13s just eat them up as well, I've just been using the r-60ms to spam with the extra off-boresight capability.
Also it's basically mandatory to use the "game" IR missile pipper rather than keeping it locked to the center like it is in the real MiG, otherwise you literally have no way of finding out what the fuck your missiles are trying to aim at.
Leatherneck is a mess.
![945212646_3c0bd48401_b[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/SV8wCsy.jpg "945212646_3c0bd48401_b[1].jpg")
>>143808525I want to be able to drop smoke grenades out the doors if we get it
>>143808525
Everyone wants an O/A/MH-6 anon, even if they don't know it yet.
>>143810423
>everyone wants another light chopper, only this time one that can do even less than the gazlel
speak for your self.
Why are all the scrubs flying the MiG-29 now? That thing has an Arma tier flight model.
>>143810779
Because they keep ripping the wings off of Su-27s.
Apparently throttling back and watching your speed are too hard, so is fighting with careful movements of the stick so to not over-exert the aircraft.
They think you can just yank and bank at max cruise speed and get away with it.
>>143810596
>lower disc loading means better in low speed/hover situations
>no unfinished autopilot to fight for control with
>minigun and/or rockets instead of ATGMs, so you can kill more than four things in a single sortie
The only thing the Memecopter has on it is the sighting system.
>>143811134
>>143810779
Kill your selves.
I've explained why nobody flies the flanker so many fucking times already.
Its just complete shit in every way.
I've been destroyed F-15's by my self in the MiG-29 because I can actually defeat missiles 9/10.
In the Su-27, the only way not to break your wings is slowing way the fuck down, but then you get hit because you are too slow.
Fulcrum gods plane.
>>143810596
>I'm a shitter who only buys modules for the armament
End your life.
>>143812507
>I'm a shitter who eats up shit modules that have no content
Literally buy a shot gun and blow your fucking brains out.
>>143812624
>flight model and study sim systems
>no content
lel
>>143812929
Go play FSX.
>>143812413
What're you going to do when the real flight model comes out? Go fly the Su-33 like a bitch?
>>143813420
What are you going to do when the MIG29 gets its PFM and you will still get killed by it? Load 8 120s?
>>143813420
Mig-29 doesn't have that much wingloading, the wings are smaller and the plane is less heavy.
>>143813628
>implying i ever get killed by migs
>>143813638
ED doesn't give a fuck. It's wings are going to go snappity snap.
>>143813772
Just you wait, in 10 years time belsimtek will finally come around to implementing that on the F-15 then we'll see who's laughing when your cockpit detaches from the fuselage.
>>143813420
Do you think I fly it because of SFM?
I would kill for the PFM to come out, it will make the plane even better.
At the end of the day, its a faster, lighter, more agile fighter, with better missiles. That suits my flying style, so I will fly it.
>>143814201
tfw i think the migs better overall, except for fuel, but fuck that fuel is for pussies, but i've been brainwashed by the knaapo jew to like that 27 shape.
>>143814507
Flanker is gorgeous, but its just too trash in this game.
>>143813973
The F-15 is a pretty solidly built plane, so I don't think that's going to happen.
>>143814201
>Do you think I fly it because of SFM?
Yeah, you fly it because your wings keep snapping. That's going to start happening to your new plane waifu in a sec too.
Besides, everyone knows that the Su-27 is more agile.
>>143814780
No plane can withstand 14G repeatedly, and the F-15 can in game with full tanks as well, they should be ripping off at that.
>>143813420
>What're you going to do when the real flight model comes out?
This is what everybody told Su-27 pilots and then when it got its PFM it became faster and more maneuverable. The same is going to happen to the MiG-29. It should be able to pull some crazy alpha but right now it's hard limited because of SFM.
>>143814780
You're an idiot.
Do you honestly think that having the 27's wings snap is realistic? If you do, then you are fucking lost and I can't help you.
The MiG-29 literally will not break irl. The pilot will pass out/die before that ever happens.
Keep pulling maximum G's at all times in your F-15 you ace pilot.
>>143815152
>>143815326
ED is going to make you mig break into a thousand little bits. Mark my words.
>>143815326
Su-27's wings snapping is realistic, anon, though it's probably easily arguable that it's happening way too easily.
Though honestly, what we have now is a massive fucking improvement from the old Su-27 flight model, which was capable of pulling 50+G without anything happening to it.
If the F-15 was updated to the same standard of shittiness I'd be fine with it, it doesn't make much sense that they updated one without the other being ready to implement at the same time.
>>143812413
>In the Su-27, the only way not to break your wings is slowing way the fuck down
You for fucking real? This is literally War Thunder tier thinking.
>>143815692
Well of course, the whole 40g thing was bull shit, but the way its happening is absolutely fucked.
>>143815685
ok dude. Why would you even want that though.
>>143815692
Su-27 is in beta
XAXAXXAX
that's the excuse the F-15 is beta as well, so it'll be all over the place.
The wing snapping isn't to bad and the su-27 can pull really tight turns at lower G, but it's obvious the plane isn't meant to have a short throw stick that's not mechanically linked to the plane.
>tfw BMS has a fully clickable SU-27 cockpit mod
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvpMClr2fxQ
When are we gonna just drop DCS completely.
>>143816204
when it gets good rotary wing aircraft
>>143816204
>F-16 hud
>F-16 HDD
Is the RWR F-16 as well?
OH BUT YOU CAN CLICK THINGS.
>>143816204
when they finally code unique avionics?
BMS ops WHEN
Same guys have made a bunch of cool cockpits for BMS.
I'm downloading one of their big packs to see if it adds everything like they say.
Should spice up our BMS ops a bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxkeOlYsHwY
>>143803427
The community (read: F-15 idiots) hates the idea of model enlargement. They only play multiplayer, and only use the F-15, which has the best radar, and best BVR weapons in the game. They want to ensure that not only are they able to dominate through lobbing slammers and running, but that they are invisible if they close to WVR.
The worst part is that a forum member came up with a pretty damned good visibility fix that's a decent compromise between realism and playability, and the mod who is a huge opponent of visibility enhancement (who also has never flown IRL) removed the post from the general forum and tossed it into the 'mods' section which nobody really reads.
Fuck ED. Someone needs to come along with a truly modern combat simulator and eat their fucking lunch.
>>143811134
Su-27's FCS doesn't allow you full elevator authority at high speeds IRL. ED are just fucking retards who will do anything to ensure the F-15 is king since it's insanely popular among the teenage crowd.
>>143817102
That looks really shitty, though.
>>143817837
How? Looks better than the default BMS one.
>>143817971
It's a fucking mess. It looks like they just glued a bunch of gauges from some other plane onto a grey plastic sheet.
Why does the F-15 have an audible "over g" warning if literally nothing happens to you
>>143801446
just wait for the particle effects DLC comrade
Why does BMS have such horrible loading times?
What does /simg/ think of VKB and their peripherals?
>>143820996
/simg/ sayspastebin
>>143820996
The button layout looks fucking shit.
>>143820996
>slider throttle
>not HOTAS
I think it's just about absolutely fucking useless for anything this general covers.
>>143821380
>HOTAS is required for anything this general covers
top kek
>>143808525
Not even in the slightest, the MD-500 is magnificentIt's the reason I kept Take on Helicopters installed for so long
>>143821670
If you want to have everything mapped comfortably.
If you're flying DCS and only FC3 planes that piece of shit would be fine, but you could also control those planes just fine using only your anus
Dammit, DC-3, why do you have to be so sexy?
>>143821814
I fly everything, including BMS, no HOTAS.
Binding everything is gay. No point to having a clickable cockpit if you bind everything unrealistically to your HOTAS and keyboard.
>>143821919
Too damn sexy
>>143821814
I handle the Huey, Gazelle, Hip, A-10C, F-86 and all the FC3 planes just fine with a Logitech X3D and no throttle or pedals. Just map the twist function to the rudder pedals and use the slider as a throttle.
>>143822063
Then don't bind everything unrealistically?
My stick is just for toggling weapons selection around in MiG-21/Mirage, with some limited radar TGP slew control on the spare HAT, on the throttle I just keep "flight control" stuff bound like flaps and airbrakes.
>>143822063
How do you deal with binding all the hats that are used in BMS (TMS, DMS, CMS, radar cursor, and trim I guess but that's not important) without having at least 3 hats with a HOTAS?
Genuine question, not even shitposting.
>>143822294
>>143822202
Here, I just use keybindings.
>>143821380
To be honest, hotas is overrated. You can easily mount a stick with built in throttle on top of something and place it in front of you at a comfortable height, but with a hotas you're going to have to have it on the table, way too high up for comfort.
>>143816204
When BMS has helicopters
>>143812413
You do realize the Mig 29's flight model is a placeholder until they get an actual working one in place, right?
>>143822285
Ok well thats different. Someone in this thread thinks you should bind literally everything, because "In real life the pilot can flip switches and press buttons without looking"
>>143822294
I have TMS bound to my one hat switch, because its the most used.
Radar slew is arrow keys, because its what I use in DCS.
The most important functions of DMS and CMS are single buttons that I have on the stick, but i have them all mapped to like CTRL+Arrow Keys, Shift+ Arrow keys, ect.
The thing about BMS thats neat, is the only thing you techincally HAVE TO bind is, is HOTAS. Every single other thing can be clicked or pressed, and its really satisfying to do so in BMS because the cursor sticks to clickable objects and there's good feedback.
>>143823210
>full BMS tier Ah-64 or Hind
>flyable in all three major dynamic campaigns
muh dick.
>>143820108
Eh? DCS takes longer for me
>>143823594
>Radar slew is arrow keys, because its what I use in DCS.
Don't be a dumb cunt and add a modifier to your joystick and then use the hat for that as well.
>>143824131
I used to have my radar shit bound to arrow keys as well, but honestly, it's way nicer to have that on the joystick, rather that constantly fiddling with the keyboard.
>>143823979
>telling people what to bind
not worth the effort senpai
>>143824304
My other hand rests right on the arrow keys, and shift(my PTT), and can still control the throttle.
I don't think I'll ever use anything else until I get a full HOTAS
>>143824383
You're missing out, mate. You could easily bind teamspeak to your joystick too and then have both of your hands there comfortably.
How do I keep my screen from momentarily freezing whenever I look at an enemy plane in blue flag
>>143823594
Anything beyond close combat weapons modes and TGP slew/angling the antenna up/down gets done with clicking.
I can't even arm my weapons without having to look around and click shit. I prefer it this way, honestly, I just set up for what I'm expecting to engage before I get into the hot zone and work from there. Had a neat dogfight last night where I had to try to fumble for the gun arm with my spare left hand on the mouse while keeping control of the plane while trying to max-perform with an f-15 without touching the throttle until I had the fucker ready to go.
Again, it's not perfect, because it takes way longer to use the mouse and do shit than it would with an actual hand, but it's a bit bitter than instantly getting everything accomplished.
Plus it gave the F-15 time to get away so the fight was a little more interesting, otherwise I would've merked him without having much fun
>>143822712
What do you mean HOTAS needs to be high up?
The whole point of HOTAS is to have buttons available to the pilot without the need for the pilot to take their hands off the stick to flip switches and press buttons and their eyes off the target outside of the cockpit; you're not suppose to be staring at the hats & buttons on your HOTAS
>>143825414
It's not ergonomic. I like to have my stick basically at crotch level, like real pilots would.
I really wish FSX had better rotorcraft flight modeling
With the new MiG-21 RWR behavior, does the pulsing tone indicate a lock without a missile being fired, or is it the same as the old solid tone where it could be either?
Well I was really excited to try blue flag but this is completely unplayable
Whenever a guy comes near me my computer freezes
I just got killed by an F-15, as soon as I got locked up my screen froze, and didn't unfreeze until I was dead
what the fuck is wrong with this game
>>143829237
Your pc can't handle loading the high detail model and textures.
>>143825927
I do that too (more like I put the base on my seat between my legs)with my G940 and I believe it is considered a HOTAS, but it's not very confortable due to the huge force feedback base
>>143829339
So what do I do
>>143825927
you can do that nigga
I have a TM warthog and I just sit it between my legs with my thighs on the metal plate. Works like a dream.
Compare to other sticks I've had where there wasn't enough weight in the bottom to do that
You could build a little pedestal mount to put in front of you, but then you either have to have a tall desk or a big ass monitor so you can sit far enough away.
>>143829370
>>143829549
I've got mine taped on top of a big old speaker that's just the right height. Works great.
>>143830039
I dunno, my desk is too low to actually get it under the desk most of the time
I kinda want to floormount it for MAXXXIMUM PRECIZION but that seems like it'd be a pain in the dick and extensions cost a lot/I can't make one myself because the thread pattern on the warthog is some weirdfuck proprietary thing
>>143829514
Mess with the lod ranges in the files and set the highest level of detail to 1 metre, or something.
![Ceu2GSO[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/pzOjcUT.png "Ceu2GSO[1].png")
>even hoggit knows that the F-15 is the shitter's plane of choice
>>143831579
>stealing simg patented memes
dmca hoggit when?
Fucking hell, where the fuck is declare? I hate this shit.
>>143779867
How's the progress on Seven-G F/A-18 sim ?
>>143832594
When you're importing anything to the airfield, you need to declare it first.
>>143833027
I don't get it.
>>143836234
meant for
>>143804153
>>143836234
>we don't have any eyes, someone pls locate bunkers for us
>>143836234
Dam, are you telling me that the 3 blue players didn't spot the red team Mi-8?
>>143837135
leavue was off i guess
>>143804153
You got what you deserved for being a shit cunt.
>>143837135
They were all landed and the mi-8 strafed them all
inb4 stimpack getting banned for cheating
>>143837448
>2/3 A-10s in the fucking grass, couldn't even taxi off the runway correctly
>bunkers still alive
Found your problem. You don't know what the fuck you're doing.
>tfw banned from blue flag
wow
>>143838587
if you stop cheating, you might be given a second chance
>getting locked by friendly Su-27s at Sochi
>still in my hangar
>don't even have my fucking jammer on
are people really this bad
>>143838587
Say that you're sorry and that Jester is Godsplane.
That should get you out of this mess.
>>143838926
is there ever any reason to run your jammer, really
like every missile in DCS has a home-on-jam function so unless you're well out of RMax it just seems like a good way to give away your azimuth regardless of the guy's PRF settings
And no radar other than the MiG-21s has ground clutter modeled so not being able to see your enemy's altitude isn't that big of a deal either.
>>143839721
denying first lock and range information is pretty important, it also raises the MAR
>>143839871
I dunno, it just sort of seems irrelevant when the enemy can just pop a slammer your way and have a pretty good chance of getting a hit if you're within range of the missile- like yeah, I know in HOJ mode the missile flies a less effective intercept, but still.
I dunno, I'm really hype for more 80STEK fighters so that there's more to combat than just notching slammers/firing off slammers as soon as the target is within the DLZ. Having radars that are susceptible to ground clutter and other interference, missiles that don't home-on-jam, having aspect play a greater part in detection ranges- all that is gonna be baller as fuck.
>>143839871
Whats MAR
>>143840726
Mission attack range.
>>143840726
>>143840910
minimum abort range, the distance which you can turn and run safely without any chance of the missile killing you.
>>143839871
The effect of the jammer basically wears off before you can get to effective amraam firing range anyway, though.
>>143841275
All that really means here is that as long as you can burn through, he hasn't fired an effective missile at you.
Not really all that reassuring, but since missiles don't loft I suppose it's a bit safer in DCS.
>>143841767
He wouldn't be able to launch an effective missile at you anyway. All you have to do to defeat a long range launch like that is to pull your nose up a bit when it gets close, jammer or no jammer.
>>143841981
what kind of ranges in DCS is considered effective?
>>143842218
>>143842258
why the fuck did they open pre-orders so early?
the mirage was the first aircraft to have a preorder period, wasn't it? and it came out like two or three weeks after it opened.
Meanwhile, 2+ months for the Tiger II
>>143843902
>the mirage was the first aircraft to have a preorder period, wasn't it?
lolno
>>143844021
I dunno, the Mirage was the first aircraft that I was around for the release forpls no bully I took a long break from sims in general shortly after DCS A-10C I still have the original DCS Black Shark in my steam library
>>143839721
>>143840684
I just turn the ECM off when I get within 30 miles or so, that's when F-15s burn through, other Mirages at like 40nm or so.
ECM doesn't matter within that range, and the jammer being on just allows HOJ to do its work, so I try to remember to cut the fucker off when I'm dancing with aim-7s so it's just one less thing to worry about.
I mean, even though you can jam an F-15 for 10nm longer than he can jam you in the Mirage, it doesn't fucking matter when he's still got a slight range advantage on you, so having him locked first doesn't really do much for it, and the same's basically true of the Su-27/MiG-29, unless you start foxing shit off out of DLZ just to force him defensive
>>143822063
Kill yourself.
>when you think the FARP you're bombing is in MM58 only to have the cheeky cunt remind you it's in MM59
SNEAKY BREEKI
BMS ops WHEN
When will da boiz come back to the blueflag server ?
>first mirage kill ever and it's gods plane
feels good senpai
>dicking around with MiG-29
>get into a turny burny furball with a couple of F-5s
holy shit this is fun jesus christ is there anything more satisfying than glancing back, seeing a white trail, idling your engines and popping flares while turning cold to it and watching it lose track
>>143847506
They are with you in spirit
>>143847506
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wmrwj6DDt-4
>>143848502
yes, but I don't have a .webm of it last night's jew flag flying.
>tracers go by your cockpit
>look back, it's a godsplane you had bounced a couple minutes ago but managed to escape somehow
>juke left and right for a couple seconds, just watching the eagle
>stomp down full right rudder, pull the throttle back to half, and roll right, then turn into the ground
>godsplane has now overshot like a dingus and you are in his blindspot, circling back around to get behind him
Mirage is too fun. Maybe also a bit too forgiving.
>>143848502
>using the HMS to get high-off-bore-axis kills with the R-73
GODSPLANE
>>143847661
My first online kill in MiG-21 was against a godsplane in the last round of Blue Flag.
I laughed all the way back to the airfield.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKOJaCuIN9w
>>143849062
>missing a guns kill
how
the only aircraft I ever miss on guns with are the MiG-21 (because shit gunsight) and the Mirage (because shit gun reticule whose bright fucking idea was it to make it so it's difficult to tell the exact center FUCK)
The F-15's gunsight is easy as shit to use
>>143851146
Because of the shit-ass radar-assisted gunsnake/reticule the Mirage has.
After my experience earlier trying to use it to gun an A-10, I really think it's easier to just use the standard gunsnake and just line the little crosses up with the target's wings, I've had much better luck actually hitting shit that way in the past.
>Gennadiy Sokolovski, general designer of the Vympel Design Bureau, said that the R-77 missile can be used against... missiles such as the AIM-120 AMRAAM and AIM-54 Phoenix
yoooo when can we do this in DCS
>F-15babbies slinging AMRAAMs all day
>Slavaboos killing them with R-77s and driving to the merge to body them with R-73s
>>143851449
You can lock up missiles on EOS if you get lucky, i've blown up a aim120 that was infront of my nose once it was a
>Just as planned
moment
>>143851364
oh, you were talking about the F-15
I've never been in the cockpit of that piece of shit, I dunno.
Has to be easier to aim the gun in than the fucking baguette.
Was looking for like 5 minutes to find this dude.
Finally found him and he had no clue I was there.
>>143851565
I tried getting my Magic to seek on an AIM-9 that was headed straight at me earlier, but it just tracked the F-15 that shot it instead.
I know it's possible to do, though, I've seen videos of it happening, done in a Mirage, no less.
>>143851683
>dat ww2 range gunkill
>>143851570
Everything about the F-15 is easymode. Literally the only disadvantages it has, compared to every other fucking modern fighter in the game, is that it's not supermaneuverable and it has no HMS/High-off-bore-axis missile.
>longer engagement range with AMRAAMs
>inbuilt ECM
>better HUD and radar scope symbology than the Mirage
>AIM-7s are some of the best SARHs in the game right now
>All-aspect AIM-9s
All that shit is why I can't take anyone who thinks they're hot shit in a fighter seriously if the only fighter they fly is the F-15. It's like fucking training wheels- of course you're good, you're basically being handed victory over the average shitter on a platter. Like, I know there's some skill required when you face competent opposition; it's not super hard to defeat a long range AMRAAM launch and just sit in the notch until the fucker closes WVR at which point the F-15 quickly runs out of advantages, but how often do you see anyone actually do something that smart in DCS multiplayer?
>>143852081
Not often, but if you're being fired on by AIM-120s, they're just as likely to turn cold as soon as they've fired all of them and go home as they are to try and merge.
When the AIM-120 is a thing, I've noticed that most Eagle pilots don't even bother to bring another missile
>>143852187
always rather than often, shiiit
Last round of BF the number of F-15s getting closer than AMRAAM range that I counted was able to fit on one hand.
Every other time I got close to an F-15, it wasn't on their terms at all, it was just because they had been dumb enough to be making contrails so I just went below them, straight up, and pulled onto their tail.
>>143852081
>>143852187
>>143852261
When the F/A-18 and the F-14 come out later this year (>implying either of those will hit their deadlines), I'm really hoping we get some good PVP servers without FC3 aircraft. The Hornet can carry the AMRAAM, and the Tomcat can carry the Phoenix which outranges that by a shit-tonne, but they'll both be proper DCS modules which, I hope, will provide something of a barrier of entry so we'll actually get some competent BLUFOR pilots
>>143852478
Faggots are already crying about the F-14 not having aim-120s, it's amazing.
>>143852478
>F/A-18 someday
>F-14 someday
>F-15 still
And I'll still be flying my slav shit MiG-21.
Maybe I'll fly the Tomcat if its Iranian or something.
I just really like flying OP/REDFOR since they almost always have a disadvantage, and winning is so much more rewarding.
>>143852845
>MiG-23/27 NEVER EVER even though like 85% of the 23's avionics are already ingame on the -21bis
Leatherneck has expressed interest in doing it in the past, though, maybe it's on the roadmap even if a long fucking way away.
Now that they've figured out how to do variable geometry wings ingame it should be more possible for them to get done.
What are they even doing after the Viggen and Tomcat are out, anyway? The only other planes I know they're committed to are WW2shit.
>>143853000
>23
>27
>Didn't even mention the 25
REEEEEE THIS MAN
>>143853209
I want the foxbat as well obviously, I was just thinking in terms of what could be completed and in the sim the fastest.
>>143852845
Kebab F-14 most fun F-14
What model Tomcats do the Iranians even have? Or rather, what model did they have before they started fucking them up with indigenous modifications?
I really hope we get some cool flashy F-14 liveries. I DEMAND to be able to fly as the Jolly Rogers and the Sundowners.
>>143853284
They only got the F-14A originally, I think..
which made it all the more hilarious when the US shot down an Iranian airliner, claiming they thought it was an F-14.. which wouldn't have even posed much threat to the cruiser that did the shooting.
My country's military are a bunch of fucking geniuses.
>>143853373
>F-14A
Compressor stalls ahoy!
Have LeatherFuck said anything about what air-to-ground package the F-14B will be flying out with? I know they were shooting for a later model, but will we be able to sling a TGP on that bitch and drop JDAMs?
>>143853284
Jolly Rogers is a given, no way they don't have that in the game.
Crazy Ivan is at it again.
>>143854010
Ban ivan when
>>143854010
the absolute madman
>>143817151
Can't he post it in the russian forum where the devs will see it as was suggested last thread?
Devs really ought to implement Why's mod and have it forced on since it works the same irrespective of resolution, just a universal solution that benefits everyone but the shitters trying to game things in their favour.
>>143853000
>>143853209
>>143853261
More slavshit fucking WHEN
I want a MiG-23 bad, something about that design is just fucking weird and I want to fly it
Do you guys think that Tu-22 mod thing will actually go anywhere?
>>143854010
>>143820996
Pretty cool, but they need a more modern stick and they're expensive for what you get.
>>143854934
The problem with his mod is that it's only a bandaid to a broken system- the model enlargement we have in DCS right now is just shit.
If you read through the last page of the mod thread for it, someone posted a proper scientific dissertation on how to do model enlargement in flight sims in a way that accurately mimics real life spotting- the very same paper BMS as the theoretical basis for their smart scaling system. That is objectively a better system- like, straight up, vetted by ~science~ and used in modern military sims.
So ideally, ED would look at that paper, say "blyat, model enlargement is broken, davai davai fix cyka" and we'd actually be able to maintain tally on fuckers after the merge without circling around looking around helplessly for them.
>>143855118
It's a very good fix that ED could implement in 2 mintues, and then they could take their sweet time doing whatever they want.
Can someone go over how to defeat missiles from different aspects in DCS?
I know that's probably a shitty question to ask, but watching some air force training film or reading a manual that applies to real world air combat isn't super helpful for DCS considering how missile performance and countermeasures work.
I can defeat missiles some of the time, but it's not a consistent thing. Heaters are easy to spoof if you see the launch, you just have to idle the engines and pop flares while turning your exhaust away from the seekerhead, seems to work basically all the time. But front-aspect IRs and SARH/ARH missiles that you can't reasonably notch (be it due to altitude or launch distance) are more difficult for me, and I often find myself trying to bleed the missile of energy while spamming chaff only to get smacked in the ass by it.
In BMS how do I fix the hud in the F-18, it's all sort of cut off.
>>143855254
>>143855118
They first need to fix the exploit that once model enlargement is on that the users won't be able to change it. At the moment if any model enlargement is on, users can bypass server settings and have bigger models who are visible evem before they get into radar range.
>>143855354
Notch isn't an end all maneuver, it doesn't always work, and good pilots love seeing people go into the notch.
You need to learn when to run away.
But if you want to be helped you need to say exactly what you are doing against radar missiles.
If you are head to head with a guy, what are you going to do after you've been launched at?
>>143855747
that's coming whenever they get the integrity check working in 1.5
>>143853524
>Have LeatherFuck said anything about what air-to-ground package the F-14B will be flying out with?
I think they're undecided as to what AG stuff if any they will model.
>>143855906
I think it's already working in 2.0, they just need to hurry the fuck up and merge them.
