/wpsg/ guilds:
TBC
<Pillar Men> - Vengeance, Alliance Instant 58 1x
<Hostile Takeover> - Excalibur, Alliance 2x
WotLK
<You> - Theatre of Dreams, Horde 2x
Cata
<wpsg> - Atlantiss, Alliance 1x
>Where can I get game clients?
http://pastebin.com/mxjmsr3t
>How do I connect to [server]?
1. Register on a private server that hosts the same game client you have.
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3. Look for a realmlist.wtf file in your WoW folder. This may either be in the root folder, or inside Wow/Data/enUS/
4. Open the realmlist.wtf file in a text editor such as Notepad and paste in the realmlist settings of the server. Make sure it starts with 'set realmlist' followed by the realmlist URL.
>I have set the realmlist correctly but it still connects me to XYZ server/says invalid login info.
You will need a clean wow.exe and dll files if you downloaded your WoW client from XYZ server. Check the clients section above.
>How do I stop my client from auto-updating?
• Start the game with wow.exe - not launcher.exe
• Don't use your email for logging in, use your account name.
• Find the patchlist file in your installation and remove it.
Old Thread: >>143565416
First for pls post fresh <You> tier list
>>143754430
here:
play whatever the fuck you want
>>143754430
this is as fresh as it gets
OFFICIAL <YOU> TIERLIST MAY/28
Tier 1
Prot Warrior
Balance Druid
Mage
Tier 2
Prot Paladin
Holy Priest
Resto Shaman
Tier 3
Hunter
Holy Paladin
Death Knight
Shadow Priest
Ele Shaman
Bear Druid
Maybe Tier
Cat Druid
Enh Shaman
Rogue
Resto Druid
You won't ever raid Tier
Arms Warrior
Fury Warrior
Ret Paladin
Warlock
real thread
>>143754519
Balance and Prot aren't T1 anymore
>>143754430
I gave several people the ability to update this, but no one has since I quit, so you're gonna have to do with this.
THE MEMER
>>143755578
only 1 active assassination rogue now and another one has switched to combat, spurdo has quit. only 1 active elemental shaman now (datboi) since aerobatics has quit. There's only 2 active ret palas iirc, Strele has quit for the hunters, Boh is gone for warriors. Think there's only 1 active arcane mage, and avanine as fire on alt is right.
Does anyone play on Lordaeron? Especially now that Arathor is confirmed dead
>>143755969
Who's the combat rogue?
Aerobatics quitting has been changed, ty.
I've noted Chips down as the other ret paladin.
Strele was already noted down, other survival hunter is Cove (other than Subu).
Boh is noted already, but I forgot to change myself.
I've got Fnm and Thetrashman down as arcane mages, avanine's alt is noted as fire already.thanks for the help
>>143756109
I'm sure a few newfags that don't know better might.
Might I also suggest realms like Feenix, Rebirth, and Vengeance if you're into wasting time?
>>143756209
Celie also joined as a hunter
Marna was in as balance last night
>>143756418
Celie noteddo you happen to know spec?
Marna added as Balance, thanks again.
>>143756517
>>143754254
Does <you> accept unusual players? That wouldn't be me, but I was just wondering about how strict you are. I'll give you an example of what I mean. A friend of mine is probably one of the most skilled gamers I have ever seen, but because he is an indomitable bastard he always refuses to learn to play by the accepted standards which slightly hinders him, so people kept nagging him about it and he decided that never again will he follow guides and always do things his way. In wow he most notably played prot warrior and he was the bast tank I've ever seen, never lost aggro. Not once. And often survived the shittiest situations with dropping cd's at the very perfect moment. People still rarely took him for raiding, because he was geared and specced in a strange way - sacrificing a significant bit of tankiness for more dps, threat and cc. How would you treat him?
>>143756964
Sounds like your friend has autism, and so does everyone else here, so probably normal.
>>143756964
Zxc has an autism spec and he's still there
Tier 1 (reliable/skilled = 100% raid spot)
Tanks;
Paladin, Are the best tanks in the game
Warrior, Have no solid warrior tanks
DPS;
Mage, Have 3, mostly shit/unreliable
Shadow, have 1, Valuable caster
Healers;
Holy Priest have 0, arguably the best healers.
Tier 2 (reliable/skilled = probable raid spot)
Tanks;
DK, have 1, cant spec correctly
DPS;
DK, have 1, DKs are valuable melee.
Balance, have 1, Valuable caster
Tier 3 (reliable/skilled = maybe raid spot)
DPS;
Hunters, have 2, mostly reliable
Feral, have 0, Feral as limited value.
Warlock, have 5, only 2-3 are reliable
Elemental, have 1, Elemental has limited value.
Enhance, have 0, Enhance has limited value.
Healers;
Discipline, have 1, has limited value.
Tier 4 (Be very skilled/reliable else don't bother)
Tanks;
Bear, have 1
DPS;
Ret, have 2
Healer;
Shaman, have 2
Tier 5 (dont bother unless you are godlike)
DPS;
Warrior, Rogue
Healer
Paladin, Druid
>>143756209
redpoppy is combat, i dont know if hes active again
mywifesgf is sub
check is ass
This is for the people who don't reroll the FoTM server and keep the tedious grind of Ulduar alive, you know who you are white boys.
GD4lyf
#summer
#slavs
#hashtag
>>143755969
Lefrago quit too
>>143757531
>Paladins are the best tanks in the game
O' I am laffin'
>>143758004
>Free guardian spirit
>2nd best stamina scaling
>Raid cooldown
>2 Taunts, one is multipurpose.
>Utility blessings
>Divine Shield
>Great AoE threat
>Very high block chance (smooths out damage)
>Lay on hands
>Great ranged agro.
>AoE stun on undead (mostly irrelevant until ICC)
>Free guardian spirit
>2nd best stamina scaling
>Raid cooldown>Free guardian spirit
>2nd best stamina scaling
>Raid cooldown
Id say the main downside of paladins is their mobility.
>>143756475
Celie is marksman but we'll see if I can get him to go back to survival
>>143756964
I'd say he'll get a lot of shit for it. Speccing threat is retarded in WotLK since there shouldnt be any threat issues in the first place. Your friend is a textbook example of a special little snowflake and in my opinion he is needleslly stubborn and he should fuck off. When it comes down to it, he's hindering the other raiders in order to stroke his own autism.
>>143758004
>>143758483
My idea of an ideal raid setup
http://raidcomp.mmo-champion.com/?c=ev132ttjkfiimabqp489oghd600000eda56hgnu8
Group 7/8 are subs/alts
>>143757531
We have two DK tanks, we have two dps DKs
>paladin best tank
>holy priest best healer
ya ur baiting
>>143758483
The only thing pallies excel at when compared to warriors is being able to keep the aggro of every single trash mob in a wide radius and providing buffs. Warriors are sturdier, dish out more damage, can cheat death way more often and are unarguably the best boss tanks and often considered best tanks overall. They may provide a bit less overall utility but because they hardly break a sweat they take the pressure off of healers so the healers can make up for it.
>>143758842
why two shadow priests?
>>143758829
The point is he is a tremendous ass and what he is doing is simply self-defeating, but would him being REALLY "keyboard savvy" make up for it? He combines Korean skill with Serbian builds and tops it of with chef's specialty shenanigans (he does some risky plays but they always turn out right).
>>143759409
>shit build
>risky plays
no thanks
>>143759409
Why are you still friends with him? Are you Welp?
>>143759409
imagine what he could do if he wasn't a stubborn special snowflake
>>143759409
he sounds like an annoying cunt desu but if he can put the money where his mouth is i don't see why not. he will get bitched at for not using cooldowns or being hard to heal if his spec has little mitigation
what he doesn't get is that this is an 8 year old version of an ancient game, there is nothing that hasn't been tried and tested and there is a reason everyone follows cookiecutter specs, they're simply proven to be the best. deviating from it does nothing but cripple you and your group.
>>143758928
Im not counting fresh 100's, they are utterly unproven
Paladins are best tanks, reasoning is above.
Holy priests are the best healers, they also have a very important tank cooldown.
>>143758953
You realise this is for wotlk right? provide any data to prove your point, because all i see are opinions.
>>143759024
Well if you look at any of the meters, their dps potential is right up the top, they provide quantifiable healing output, a damage reduction passive, raid wide mana cooldown and raid wide smart heal cooldown which also causes targets to take more healing.
>>143759640
good post
>>143759694
That is a fair point. He always played fresh games, outshined everyone else with his all-around skill and left when the game started to become "solved" as he believed solving a metagame defies the purpose of gaming which he believed to be showcasing personal proves instead of following a hive mentality and having "fun" by experimenting with what the game offers.
I am done with <You>. This was the most undeserved, disgusting vezax i have ever seen. First the fucking cunt lucks out with Raato wrecking his shit under the shadow crash, then the tanks fucks up worse than they have ever fucked up before, and just to fucking top it off she uses dirty tactics to defend against the massively better Datboi without getting fucking penalized BECAUSE SHE DIDNDONUFFINGATTAGOODBOY FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT FUCLKING CUNTG$§RTE"§
this was datbois win
i hope her dick gets fucking stuck in officer ass tonight
>Scroll /vg/'s
>Solaire
Holy shit, i think this guy used to listen to me masturbate over skype/stream
>>143760651
datboi for president
>>143760651
good post
t. real Datboi here
>>143760651
>>143760651
>>143760690
you do know Solaire is a common name from dark souls 1, right?
>>143756964
If your friend was doing hardmodes/Heroic and sacrificed EH for damage he's a fucking idiot.
We're tanks. We keep threat, maintain our defences to help healers, and position/pick up. We don't dps.
Sacrificing survivability to do more damage at the cost of giving your healers a fucking heart murmur isn't worth it.
>>143759973
Holy priests are a meme
Dont remember any serious guild using even one, maaaaaybe one tops, maybe.
WotLK is Disc expansion
Signing up for Theatre, anyone got an RAF they wanna share for that dank ecks pee?
>>143760486
you are talking about yourself in third person aren't you
>>143761027
Holy was alright, though. Disc is the best of you're the only healing priest, but you only need one. Penance and Aegis don't stack so unless you're doing Algalon or another fast/hard-hitting tank swap the rest of your priests should be holy.
>>143761050
4x vote xp replaces RAF
>>143758658
>survival on any other fight in Ulduar other than Vezax
Just no
>>143761080
why would he talk about himself in third person
>>143761080
>>143759640
Nah, I'm no longer friends with him because he was an ass in person. He was the stereotypical fat neckbeard which was bearable, but he had an inferiority complex and always tried to belittle everyone else to seem better in comparision. He was damn good in all video games he played, I must give him that. I just wanted to have a hypothetical conversation about how <you> treats special snowflakes.
>>143761378
<You> is full of special snowflakes though, prime example avanine. WIth the difference that your friend was good at video games
>>143761468
I thought that avanine is just a memelord?
>>143761573
no, there are memelords in the guild and they're cool and fun to play with (e.g. Snack is a really cool guy). Avanine on the other hand is just a meterwhore as the only affliction warlock in guild.
>>143761679
But the only time afflocks can boast about the meters is when there is one big boss with next to no adds or mechanics. Outside of that they do next to nothing when forced to deal with trash or encounters with multiple mini bosses or many adds. It's just a way of validating their existence. If it wasn't for that afflocks would succumb to the existential dread.
>>143761276
>ulduar is high movement
>MM relies heavily on steady shot, more so than survival
>MM only starts to compete with survival dps in near full 226 gear
>replenishment
Give me a 236 bow and I promise you I'll out dps celies MM spec. The moment you specced survival you started to outdps me by a considerable margin, as you have proven with that screenshot.It was my first time ever on vezax though and I avoided green ooze to minimize raid damage
>>143761027
Disc is outright the best healer, yes
Which is why everyone presumed to think and thus regurgitate ' lol holy is shit compared to disc' why bother.
So you bring in 1 Disc to be your raid bubble.
You bring your Holy paladin for dedicated tank healing.
Then you have 3-4 spots to fill for raid healing.
Shamans are great for mana regen/totems and chain heal, but more than 1 to a raid and it becomes a burden more than an asset,
the same if you bring an extra holy paladin or disc priest.
Druids like to blanket the raid in rejuv, but not only is disc better at that with PWS, but neither can do it by themselves, so you bring one of each. (wild growth is powerful)
Druids don't bring much in the way of utility except battle res and innervate.(which they mostly use on themselves)
Holy priests are just as capable as druids to hot spam the raid, they also have CoH which is better than wild growth, prayer of mending and 1.5 second cast prayer of healings.
Also guardian spirit.
>>143763086
Oh, but you're wrong
>>143763086
>I avoided green ooze
Subu just ask harmoo for a shield and thats free 12k mana you dip
>>143761985
>one big boss with next to no adds or mechanics
basically 80% of the encounters then
throwback to birth of emoticonswith my good friend check the rogue
>>143763372
That's a tank and spank with zero movement, if I get a siren's cry ill prove it to you.
>>143761027
Lets also look at it from a role based perspective.
1x Holy paladin, heals the MT
1x Disc priest, bubbles as much as the raid as needed (7-10k in ulduar), otherwise tank heals (crit bubbles and armor bonus), provides tank and dps cooldowns
1x RDruid blanket hots or loading up the tanks with hots, spot healing, mobile and battle res
1x RSham Spot healing, totems, mana tide, self res, can also tank heal.
1x Holy priest, somewhat mobile, Insane AoE healing, tank cooldown, high regen, can also tank heal
If a fight requires 6 healers, then double up on what suits the raid best.
I always forget how hard the money grind is in wow
On Theatre, just started Horde, is there a decent way to make money faster?
>>143763645
>if i get this op bow i'll show it to you
stop embarrassing yourself
>>143765813
except celies has it already
>>143765685
Yeah, play on a server that isnt dead and has a functional economy that allows you to sell things on the auction house
www.dalaran-wow.com
>>143766047
>people still shill dalaran
wow:^)
>>143766097
Its hell of a lot better than play on a dead polish shithole
Hey guys just powering through outlands be raiding naxx with you by next week maybe..hopefully...
>>143766047
>>143766186
I have seen a screenshot going around about Dalaran paying their players to advertise here with donation points.
I just want to CONFIRM, this is true. They have had open campaigns but they also continued in closed privacy. I have been on the receiving end of these donation points in one of the open campaigns and know for a fact that they continued this privately.
PROOF of open campaigns:
http://i.imgur.com/1yhYWyI.jpg
http://imgup.io/image/et7
On top of that, they have organized multiple times vote brigading and vote manipulation and have been punished by Reddit itself for this. This is an account of one of the administrators (if not the owner):
http://i.imgur.com/vJmDZ4B.png
http://i.imgur.com/R64AiUq.png
Shadowbanned.
You don't have to trust me, you can check the proof yourself.
>5 vote points have been deposited into your account
REQUESTING TOP 3 FOR EACH ROLE IN <You>
>>143763508Bring Back the Snack
>>143766197
kartistic? more like kAutistic
>>143766481
Tanks
1. Hg
2. Buffslave
3. Zxc
Healers
1. Cobe
2. Figaro
3. Harmoo
DPS
1. Datboi
2. Subu
3. Fku
>>143766481
Tank
1) Hg
2) Buffslave
3) Cunnybunny
Healer
1) Cobe
2) Harmoo
3) Oats
DPS
1) Avanine
2) Senna
3) Celies
just my 2 cents
>>143766481
Tanks
>Hg
>??
Healers
>Cobe
>Oats
>Harmoo
Melee DPS
>Senna
>Spurdo
>Deimous
Ranged DPS
>Fku
>Subu
>Avanine
>>143766953
>spurdo
? ?? he quit
>fku
someone who skipped the later half of naxxramas, just like boh/grothak/whiskra
"best dps"
What's wrong with you people?
>>143766481
Tanks
1. Hg
2. Zxc
3. Buffslave
Healers
1. Cobe
2. Figaro
3. Harmoo
DPS
1. Datboi
2. Subu
3. Fku
>>143766481
Tank
1) Hg
2) Buffslave
3) Cunnybunny
Healer
1) Cobe
2) Harmoo
3) Oats
DPS
1) Avanine
2) Senna
3) Celies
>>143767126
>datboi
joined 2 weeks ago, makes a lot of noise
>considered best dps
lmao
>>143766481
Tanks
>Hg
>??
Healers
>Cobe
>Oats
>Harmoo
Melee DPS
>Senna
>Spurdo
>Deimous
Ranged DPS
>Fku
>Subu
>Avanine
>>143766481
Tanks
1. Hg
2. Buffslave
3. Zxc
Healers
1. Cobe
2. Figaro
3. Harmoo
DPS
1. Subu
2. Datboi
3. Fku
>>143766481
Tank
1) Hg
2) Buffslave
3) Cunnybunny
Healer
1) Cobe
2) Harmoo
3) Oats
DPS
1) Senna
2) Avanine
3) Celies
>>143767357
making funnies and talking tactics makes a good impression
can we stop the top 3 posting now, clearly its two guys just spamming their own list
>>143766659
>>143767159
>>143767523
Datboi I know you want people to like you but spamming one list multiple times just so you can be on it doesn't make you good
>>143766481
Tanks
1.me
2. me____
3. me___
Healers
1. me__
2. me_____
3. me
DPS
1. me
2. me____
3. me_______
>>143766481
>>143766659
>>143766883
>>143766953
>>143767159
>>143767274
>>143767404
>>143767523
>>143767646
holy shit cant you faggots go 100 posts without breaking into a massive circle jerk, patting eachother on the back for your non achievements on a bugged 100 pop private server
fuck off <you> goddamn neo-wpsg cancer
>>143767745
b-but muh shitposting...
...muh memes.......
>>143765914
>>143763645
mm is better than surv in wotlk and has been since 3.0.8
3.3 cemented it even more
This isn't up for discussion
Is Datboi Ayylmao, AKA Personnel?
is ituh the most retarded person in the guild?
>>143768692
followed closely by welp yarrick lefrago and zxc
>>143768083
Yeah, in mostly Ulduar 25 gear or better. And even then both are pretty close, the moment you start moving around or the fight takes longer than 7 minutes survival edges ahead.
>>143768692
Sorry you think the world ISNT flat kys
>>143768692
The only retarded thing about Ituh is that he never shows up.
>>143766481
Here's how I would rate each role:
All roles(activity/usefulness)
Tank (mechanical knowledge, usage of CDs, deaths)
#1 Hg
Reliable, active, knows mechanics. Hands down the best
#2 Buffslave
Active, manages cds well, knows his class.
Need to learn more about mechanics in ulduar.
#3 Cunnybunny
Knows mechanics well, decent at the class.
Not that active. Sometimes missing, sometimes benched.
Healers (raidwide HPS/maintank HPS, managing mana, fight mechanics, amount of deaths)
#1 Bootyboa
Good healing, knows mechanics, always active.
#2 Oats
Our best druid, depsite having high ping, puts out a good amount of HPS every fight and knows his class very well
Sometimes dies to mechanics, but that's probably a connection issue.
#3 Harmoo
Knows his class very well, mechanics and manages mana well every fight.
Unreliable. Misses a good amount of raids for unknown reasons(?).
Melee DPS (damage done, mechanical knowledge, deaths)
#1 Sennawins
Undoubtably the best melee DPS player, knows what to do and when.
Could be more efficient
#2 Check
Our best rogue DPS-wise, fairly decent at mechanics.
Problem is activity, could come to more raids.
#3 Mywifesgf
Good DPS, knows class well. Decently active.
Lacking mechanical knowledge, dies a fair amount.
Caster DPS (damage done, mechanical knowledge, deaths)
#1 Avanine
Puts out more DPS than any other person in the guild, on any given boss. Very active, and useful for the raid.
Knows mechanics, but doesn't seem to even try to avoid them(???).
#2 Ituhdudu
Mechanically good player (when not drunk), does a good amount of damage on any fight, knows his class well.
Not that active. Blackouts during fights(when drunk) like vezax last time where his mark healed about 30% on vezax, causing a wipe
#3 Fku
Very aware player, knows mechanics well, well-rounded person who's reliable when he's present.
Less active than the above two, doesn't have any incentive to do better DPS than he's already doing (handicapping himself)
>>143769389
>mwg
>avanine
dropped
>>143769647
Our warriors do abysmal dps at this time to be considered top 3.
"knowing and avoiding mechanics" is not what kills the boss.
Pure raw DPS does.
Obviously you absolutely have to avoid lethal and wipe mechanics, but that's natural and will yield higher DPS.
opinion discarded.
>>143769389
t. Avanine
>>143769389
Ignore this post
explain yourself cobe?
what makes you think you deserve items over others?
>>143769903
lmao have you ever set foot in a raid? you can take 10 extra seconds to kill a boss, you can't kill a boss when half your raid is dead on the floor because they were too busy perfecting their rotation.
Mechanics always come first, if you can handle mechanics then and only then, you can think about topping the meters.
>>143769389
this list having two rogues is just proof its complete garbage
MWG is probably the 2nd worst player in the guild now that lefaggo is gone
>>143770352
shit player power ranking
1)Yarrick
2)hg
3) zxc
POWER GAP
4)welp
5)lefrago
6) mwg
dubs for truth
>>143770169
>half your raid is dead on the floor because they were too busy perfecting their rotation.
As I said, avoiding lethal mechanics will yield higher DPS. always.
That means higher DPS is a good gauge to see people who are good at avoiding such mechanics.
Clear your mind, the memes in this thread are shadowing out your logic and thinking.
>>143770352
>2nd worst player in the guild
>still manages to do very good dps
Care to explain?
>>143770670
if avanine didn't soak up unnecessary damage that he's not even trying to dodge and forcing our subpar healers to keep him topped up, they would be able to heal others who make occasional mistakes.
He is holding the raid back by relying on healers to save him from his stupidity while he's busy jacking his estrogen riddled micropenis over recount numbers
>>143771119
and who are these sub par healers?
>>143770670
>having to avoid mechanics is a meme
Jesus christ, avoiding mechanics is very easy and any respectable dps will do it without any issue and without losing too much dps. None of the ulduar bosses are a dps race bar hardmodes, but if you can't avoid mechanics reliably in HM you're going to wipe anyway. That 50 dps that you gain out of standing in a bunch of shit isn't worth the strain you put on healers or the risk of dying. That extra 50 dps you pump out isn't going to make a difference, you dying once every 10 attemps or you diverting healer attention can make or break a potential kill.
You're fucking trash and are doing some serious mental gymnastics to try and save face. Don't stand in the mechanics, it's not hard.
>>143770131
>>143770131
>>143770131
Definitive proof of bootyboa using his gm status to try to funnel himself gear and no one replying?
how deep does the rabbit hole go?
>>143771042
maybe this time
>>143771119
Sounds like the real issue is those subpar healers. Why aren't they held to the same standards you're holding a mentally ill warlock to?
>>143771119
>affliction warlock
>recieving heals
your healers are TRULY subpar then.
and this "argument" is completely irrelevant on every single fight except Vezax HM.
>>143771202
its clear to everyone playing on <you> who the rotten apples are, I'm not gonna bother naming people.
you know who you are.
>>143771243
kek
>>143771243
he already talked about in discord, because malleus and unknown funneled all their tier gear onto one player and now do most boss encounters with ease
>>143771316
One doesn't exclude the other.
If anything you not even attempting to try and get better is 20 times worse than a healer being bad and trying to improve.
>>143770131
>use any other system besides LC
>hey guys I really need this if I get it it will make all our lives easier
>everyone agrees 1 guy that would have thrown a fit sees it would be selfish of him to go against the will of the whole guild
>guild progresses normally without drama
>LC system
>every piece of loot now becomes a bomb with a 1% chance of detonating
>>143771363
You had no problems naming avanine.
>>143771363
quality shitpost
can't even name drop people to cause some drama
>>143771207
>being this assblasted over dps
>bringing up HMs when the guild couldnt down flame leviathan 4 towers in under 2 hours.
You have some personal issues, friend.
>>143771243
He has a point though? He's consistently our best healer and when he gets CC'd or anything during a boss fight you can literally see the raid healing being cut in half.
The best players should be rewarded with the best gear. He tries too hard to make everybody happy which is commendable but it's just not possible and the guild as a whole would do better if he'd be willing to funnel gear onto the good players.
>>143771445
she's the poster child for all others who want to meterwhore at the cost of kill potential
>>143771609
Name those subpar healers then.
Your double standards are fucking rediculous.
Probably the most ideal 10m (normal mode) group
>>143771316
I clearly acknowledged that they're mediocre healers. If our recount obsessed affli lock bothered to move every once in a while to avoid taking unnecessary damage, it would make the healer's job that much easier.
the healers don't know any better, they try their best for the most part. Tranny's doing it on purpose and that's pretty malicious
>>143771336
gl on mimi hm ava9
Isnt avanine the retarded furry tranny homo that deleted all his alliance characters on atlantiss because he couldnt handle the pressure of being assigned to the twilight realm on heroic Valiona?
Why did you let him into another guild
>>143771580
hi booth. stop sucking his dick. sure hes really good but that doesnt mean he should get all the loot.
>>143771847
no that's genetics
>>143771915
hi dipshit, i dont need to suck core dick because im legitimately good?????
>>143771207
this
i was mad as fuck seeing people stand in shit on hodir and taking tons of Dot damage
literally heroic dungeons mechanics
>>143771793
>the healers don't know any better
This is your entire issue
You're babying these healers while calling oit and shitting on people who are causing less of a problem.
You picking on one person by name while refusing to call out the shitty healers is a problem. Especially since as you admitted these healers ARE THE PROBLEM.
>>143771689
Not the guy who mentioned subpar healers, I personally think most of our healers are fine. Some of them should stop standing in mechanics (welp, ruslan, oats, ami) but overall their healing output is enough to keep a raid up that isn't purposely standing in fire because muh meters.
They aren't amazing, but a dps that refuses to stop jacking it over meters deserves to be called out every single time. Just because they refuse to see why their behaviour is not acceptable.
>>143771580
so the gist of it is that 'good' players receive loot while the poor shitters are tagging along to help out the same 5 people reach that goal?
What criteria do you use to decide who is good?who decides who's good? Does the gm and his officer friends get to hand out loot to themselves because they've decided they're good players?
Are all the vanilla servers kill? Are the remaining servers under threat from blizzard?
>>143771793
you have some mental issues.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k0SmqbBIpQ
>>143772156
You should get out what you put in.
You're a shitter for more reasons than you aren't funneled gear.
i'd love to see wpsg run some mythics raids on retail
hint: you wouldn't get very far from what i've seen on your streams
>>143772078
Avanine, how many times do people have to tell you that standing in bad stuff= bad?
The goal of raiding is to down a boss. When you stubbornly refuse to move and have to be coddled by healers, you are taking away resources that could be better used elsewhere. Bad players with no mechanics failing to dodge mechanics isn't an excuse for you to be doing the same.
How is this not clear?
>>143772448
iron maidens on mythic, phew, all those mechanics
>>143772156
You clearly didn't read what I typed very well so I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're a slav that doesn't understand English very well.
The PROBLEM is that Asscobra DOESN'T funnel the gear into the good players. D O E S N T. Do you know what that means? That means it's something he isn't doing but he should be.
The officers are still not the best players in the guild. Shitters like Mywifesgf are. Explain to me how giving the guilds best healer their 4 piece when you can IMMEDIATELY notice the difference in healing output when they get CC'd in any way is a bad thing? Or how about the best melee/ranged dps? The best tank?
Dumb faggots like you that bitch about not getting prioritized on loot when you frankly don't deserve to be are why every single /wpsg/ guild has struggled.
highly recommended tbqh
>>143772535
Way to boogeyman and completely avoid my point.
If you refuse to name the healers then you shouldn't name anyone.
So now that you sperged out again try doing the same thing but to the shit healers.
>>143772356
what criteria do you use to give out loot?
based on attendance, reliability, performance, ability to dodge mechanics, what?
using any of those criteria will yield different loot priorities
except of course when you're gm, then you obviously get to have dibs on everything :^)
it's especially problematic when over half of the people in the loot council are terrible at their class, proving once again that there isn't one iota of fairness in <you>
>>143772078
yet you refuse to give the names of bad healers
>>143772869
The only terrible officer is Welp.
>>143772892
I didn't bring it up. It all stems from this post >>143771119
Where it's suddenly not ok to mention the healers by name but it is more than ok to call avanine out.
>>143772765
Healers have gotten lots of flak in the last few threads. Stop trying to deflect by telling how others are shit too. They're shit and they got called out for it. You're even shittier and you're getting called out for it right now. It's a fact that you're intentionally playing like shit because you're too autistic about damage meters, which is instantly solvable by you opening your fucking eyes and being reasonable to criticism. That or a bullet to your brain, fucking kill yourself.
>>143772869
>giving 4 piece to an amazing resto sham is bad
I'd hate to see how you sperg out in normie guilds that literally funnel all of the gear into the best players of each class/role.
>>143772675
t. shit raider who hasn't been in a good guild, has to kid himself into thinking nepotism is ever good
>>143772765
I'm not boogeymanning anyone. literally everyone in the guild knows you don't bother to dodge stuff, it's no secret. its fucking blatant.
avanine I dont know why youre mad. standing in bad stuff = bad.
when a tank does it it's bad
when a healer does it it's bad
when you do it's bad
>>143770131
Asscobra is such a narcissistic piece of shit its unbelievable.
I know you faggots only suck up to him because he controls the loot.
In reality he's a shit healer and a shit raid leader.
We should elect a new guild leader t b h
>>143772869
attendance/activity [yes]
performance(including mechanics) [yes]
importance of said item [yes]
how much people beg for it [no]
what rank they are in the guild [no] (except cobe)
>>143773148
I'll spell it out for you once again.
Avanine is doing it INTENTIONALLY so she can jack off over her own ego.
Healers are simply not that good at the game.
do you see the problem? one is fixed by not being a terrible human being, the other is fixed by steady practice.
>>143773281
my normie guild was better than yours and didnt try to rationalize reserving loot as being good for the guild:^)
all our members pulled their weight. I suggest you do the same
>>143773556
this requires members to pull their weight, we simply don't have 25 people who pull their weight, more like 10.
>>143772448
this tbhq
>kologarn beams are hard
laughing archimonde.png
>>143772287
>tranny telling others theyve got mental issues
hah.
rich.
REQEUST:
>TOP 3 OUT OF EACH CLASS IN <You>
>>143773751
all (me)
>>143773421
Call out all the shitters or none of them.
>>143773751
>me
>a non conventional pick to deflect attention
>me
>>143773816erkatz
>>143773556
My normie guild was one of the best in the shadowburn battle group and the exact way loot worked, even in vanilla and TBC, was the best players got the loot first including set pieces. Sounds like you were in a pretty casual guild.
>wpsg shitters are contained on a dead polish server
beautiful
>>143773251
It's ok for healers to literally only stare at health bars and and stand in shit though.
>>143773906
But we did, see previous 10 threads and the shit Welp/figaro/ruslan/oats/ami had to endure. Why is this an issue in the first place? it doesn't matter who is being called out, you're still shit.
>>143770607
hi what is the order here? I'm confused
>>143774074
I'm not a warlock though.
Healers were a million times more of an issue than avanine was.
>>143773631
all the more reason to be fair and reward people for effort. There is no competition on tod anyways, we cant compete with the other guilds. The only reason to ever funnel gear into people is when trying to clear fights faster than other guilds. Seeing as that will never happen, why persist when the only result is that we'll scare off even more people?
By funneling gear you are sending a message that its fine to play poorly because no matter how hard you try you will still be 2nd or 3d on the loot prio list.
>>143773421
>I'm doing it intentionally
For what purpose? Getting hit by mechanics loses me DPS. I always try my best, but you forget that this is the second ulduar run we've ever done.
The healers that have been playing with me in raids know that I have my self heals and that I don't take too much raid damage, which "relaxed" state lead to me dying on mimiron phase 2 and 4 a load to the handpulse/burstfire.
I see your problem though. You have problems with me as a person. How about you message me on Discord, we can talk it out, I'm not the kind who shares PMs.
>>143773751
Death Knight
1. Senna
>Power Gap
2. Cunny
>Power Gap
3. Zxc
Druids
1. Ituh
2. Oats
3. pancuck
Hunters
1. Celie
2. Subu
>Massive Power Gap
3. Famously
Mages
1. ?????
2. ?????
3. ?????
Paladins
1. Buffslave
2. Aesthetics
3. BWG
Priests
1. Harmoo
2. Nookni
>Power Gap
3. Booth
Rogues
>implying any are good
1. Check
2. MWG
3. Spurdo
Shamans
1. Cobe
2. Datboi
3. The former Aerobatics
Warlocks
1. Fku
2. Dindu
3. Avanine
Warriors
1. Deimous
2. Shuya
3. Yarrick
Tanks
1. Hg
2. Zxc
3. Buffslave
Healers
1. Cobe
2. Figaro
3. Harmoo
DPS
1. Datboi
2. Subu
3. Fku
>>143773976
Not him but I was in a casual guild and we just rolled need for need greed for greed and passed if someone said they needed it real bad or it wasn't for us. We had fun cracked jokes and I don't remember a single fight. Meanwhile this guild has constant drama and bullshit left and right.
>>143773976
if your guild had such glaring discrepancies in player performance that you could point out with ease who the good players and who the shitters were you recruited to fill slots, I wonder which guild is more casual:^)
I guess that tends to happen when you have to take in the rejects who failed applying to actual guilds though.
>>143774204
You have it backwards. Why trying hard if thay shitter is going to take your loot?
Why try at all when you know you have loot coming.?
Tanks
>Hg
>??
Healers
>Cobe
>Oats
>Harmoo
Melee DPS
>Senna
>Spurdo
>Deimous
Ranged DPS
>Fku
>Subu
>Avanine
Let us settle this once and for all. Everyone to Gurubashi Arena for 1v1s.
>>143774226
>whisper me on dsc so I can explain to you why im exempt from following mechanics
?????
>>143774656
This is /wpsg/ dude. There will always be drama when there's a thread dedicated to people talking about the various guilds and they don't have to put a name to their posts like guild forums.
>>143774235
>undeaddindu died to more mechanics than avacuck
>he does equal dps as our warriors
change it to raato.
t. raato
>>143774235
>>143774645
>>143774782
end this autism
Tank
1) Hg
2) Buffslave
3) Cunnybunny
Healer
1) Cobe
2) Harmoo
3) Oats
DPS
1) Avanine
2) Senna
3) Celies
just my 2 cents
>>143774885
>he didn't make the list
>>143774864
Do it.
It's your time to btfo avanine once and for all, all you have to do is whisper on discord.
>>143754519
Dont roll mage, im gunna roll one tonite ;)
>>143774793
I'm literally waiting for you guys, but I bet you're too trash to even come and fight me.
Tanks
1. Hg
2. Buffslave
3. Zxc
Healers
1. Figaro
2. Cobe
3. Harmoo
DPS
1. Datboi
2. Subu
3. Fku
>>143775056
We have 7 leveling
>>143774226
>I have a problem with you as a person
I do not, I have a problem with your attitude. You feel and act like you're above and beyond resulting to you rationalizing your inability to dodge mechanics. I can't stand this attitude and I refuse to admit you are a good player till you are able to ignore the damage meters as long as you aren't good enough to dodge mechanics.
The same attitude you shown when you refused to damage anything but the boss. When the raid has issues with adds you still refuse to help out because it would mean a dps loss. Or when senna tries to place you in the back of 4HM because he knows you are a reliable dps that knows the fight but you refuse and want someone who is more prone to fuck ups to go instead so you can do more damage in the front.
You need to let the damage meters go. I've said it to you personally before, I know you're a good player and I know you can handle mechanics if you tried, but you have the wrong attitude and it's not helping you.
>>143774713
<Hellfire Club> was a top 15 Horde guild for a very long time during TBC. Nice try though.
>>143775108
post screenshot and ill come kill you
Tank
1) Hg
2) Buffslave
3) Cunnybunny
Healer
1) Cobe
2) Harmoo
3) Oats
DPS
1) Celies
2) Avanine
3) Senna
>>143775108
>All these keyboard warriors not even man enough to come fight meI go hard in the motherfucking paint nigger
>>143775217
fucking kid come 1on1
Tanks
1. Hg
2. Buffslave
3. Zxc
Healers
1. Harmoo
2. Cobe
3. Figaro
DPS
1. Datboi
2. Subu
3. Fku
>>143775201
>telling an affliction lock to focus adds
Tell me specifically what buttons you expect him to press.
Tanks
1. Hg
2. Buffslave
3. Zxc
Healers
1. Cobe
2. Figaro
3. Harmoo
DPS
1. Fku
2. Subu
3. Datboi
>>143773751
A lot of classes have 3 players. Ayy lmoa.
For example:
DK - 1. Senna
2. Cunny
3. Zxc
Druid: 1. Ituh
2. HG
3. Oats
Hunter: 1 & 2. Celie and Subu are both VERY good
3. Famously
Mage: 1. Thetrashman
2. Avanine on her alt
3. Fnm I guess. All the mages are fairly unreliable
Paladin: 1. Buffslave
2. Aesthetics
3. Ruslan when he's not hospitalized
Priest: 1. Booth
2. Harmoo
3. Nookni
Rogue: 1. RIP my nigga Spurdo
2. Check
3. MWG
Shaman: 1. Cobe
2. Datboi
3. RIP Aero
Warlock: 1. Avanine despite drawbacks
2. Fku
3. RIP pickles
Warrior: 1. Donnerzorn Deimous
2. Thrang
3. Shuya
>>143774732
because no matter how hard you try, no matter how much potential you have to outshine people, your name isn't bootyboa or senna and those 2 have loot reserved de facto
if a fair loot system is more incentive for the shitter to step up his game and be on par with the 'good' players, why not?
>>143774656
my guild did group loot from vanilla until cata without one ninjasteal
when we got server first glaives drop it didnt go to our rogue officer by default because guess what, we're not lootwhores bent on drama.
>funnel gear into a select few people
>expect it wouldn't somehow create strife
???????
>>143775503
literally any
Tank
1) Cunnybunny
2) Hg
3) Buffslave
Healer
1) Cobe
2) Harmoo
3) Oats
DPS
1) Avanine
2) Celies
3) Senna
>All these kids thinking arguing on the internet solves anythingGurubashi Arena, right now, 1on1, fox only
EXCALIBUR REEEEEEEEE
>>143775676
>Fox only
Fuck off nigger.
Battlefield, you can play your furbait, I'l picking Ice Climbers, I won't even wobble nerd.
>>143774867
maybe you're right but I think it's the loot system desu
Tanks
1. Zxc
2. Hg
3. Buffslave
Healers
1. Harmoo
2. Figaro
3. Cobe
DPS
1. Fku
2. Subu
3. Datboi
>>143775641
Let's go. You like to pretend you know shit. Tell me what buttons.
>>143775742
>ice climbers
you probably argue better than you play kid
>>143775201
You need to let the memes go.
Think rationally.
>dodging mechanics results in higher dps
>higher dps implies more dodged mechanics
So where are your concrete examples?
>when the raid has issues with adds you still refuse to help out because it would mean a dps loss
XT? Yeah I'll just place this corruption on the boom bot doing 3000 damage total while any other class could kill it during that time.
Meanwhile we're dying to Berserk, because we couldnt take the heart below 70%.
>when senna tries to place you in the back of 4HM because he knows you are a reliable dps that knows the fight but you refuse and want someone who is more prone to fuck ups to go instead so you can do more damage in the front.
Even senna knows that a mage has no self-healing whatsoever and it doesn't matter what other non-selfheal class he puts there, it's all on the healer with that person. I do not care about DPS with my alt at any point and time, that's why I never post them. Your argument is bleeding left and right, you're just not thinking and typing random shit you can bring up against me.
You need to let the memes go.
>>143775861
I play pretty well, although I'll sadly never be as good as Wobbles / Fly or even Chu
>>143775976
you're alright broas opposed to these keyboard warriors in this thread who aint even fighting me in gurubashi arena rn
>>143775503
>raid struggles with doing a mechanic
>don't help out to assist your guild members
>stay on boss
>b-b-ut it's suboptimal, ill lose dps!
it's selfish behaviour , pure and simple.
selfish behaviour.
>>143776162
What buttons would you expect an affliction warlock to burst down low hp adds with?
Death Knight
1. Senna
>Power Gap
2. Cunny
>Power Gap
3. Zxc
Druids
1. Ituh
2. Oats
3. pancuck
Hunters
1. Celie
2. Subu
>Massive Power Gap
3. Famously
Mages
1. ?????
2. ?????
3. ?????
Paladins
1. Buffslave
2. Aesthetics
3. BWG
Priests
1. Harmoo
2. Nookni
>Power Gap
3. Booth
Rogues
>implying any are good
1. Check
2. MWG
3. Spurdo
Shamans
1. Cobe
2. Datboi
3. The former Aerobatics
Warlocks
1. Fku
2. Dindu
3. Avanine
Warriors
1. Deimous
2. Shuya
3. Yarrick
what the fuck
>>143776162
>raid struggles with adds
>move 80% of the dps to adds
>only 1 person damaging the heart
>its avanine
>reee avanine go dps the adds
>"no"
>5 heart phases later
>Berserk
>raid wiped
GEE I WONDER WHY
atlantis plz
Here's how I would rate each role:
All roles(activity/usefulness)
Tank (mechanical knowledge, usage of CDs, deaths)
#1 Hg
Reliable, active, knows mechanics. Hands down the best
#2 Buffslave
Active, manages cds well, knows his class.
Need to learn more about mechanics in ulduar.
#3 Cunnybunny
Knows mechanics well, decent at the class.
Not that active. Sometimes missing, sometimes benched.
Healers (raidwide HPS/maintank HPS, managing mana, fight mechanics, amount of deaths)
#1 Bootyboa
Good healing, knows mechanics, always active.
#2 Oats
Our best druid, depsite having high ping, puts out a good amount of HPS every fight and knows his class very well
Sometimes dies to mechanics, but that's probably a connection issue.
#3 Harmoo
Knows his class very well, mechanics and manages mana well every fight.
Unreliable. Misses a good amount of raids for unknown reasons(?).
Melee DPS (damage done, mechanical knowledge, deaths)
#1 Sennawins
Undoubtably the best melee DPS player, knows what to do and when.
Could be more efficient
#2 Check
Our best rogue DPS-wise, fairly decent at mechanics.
Problem is activity, could come to more raids.
#3 Mywifesgf
Good DPS, knows class well. Decently active.
Lacking mechanical knowledge, dies a fair amount.
Caster DPS (damage done, mechanical knowledge, deaths)
#1 Avanine
Puts out more DPS than any other person in the guild, on any given boss. Very active, and useful for the raid.
Knows mechanics, but doesn't seem to even try to avoid them(???).
#2 Ituhdudu
Mechanically good player (when not drunk), does a good amount of damage on any fight, knows his class well.
Not that active. Blackouts during fights(when drunk) like vezax last time where his mark healed about 30% on vezax, causing a wipe
#3 Fku
Very aware player, knows mechanics well, well-rounded person who's reliable when he's present.
Less active than the above two, doesn't have any incentive to do better DPS than he's already doing (handicapping himself)
>>143776150
You're alright too bro.
I hope you dumpster and tool brave enough to try you.
>>143776516
>80% of the raid
it was like 7 but people were moving to the adds instead of waiting which meant less heart damage
1. Cobe
>Regardless of shitposting hes consistently one of the top performing healers
>healing output simply plummets when hes CC'd or taken out of a fight
>Hate him or like him, hes currently one of the best and most aware performers in <You>
All true. Cobe is good.
2. Senna
>consistently performs top 5 on DPS, avoids and handles mechanics
>pretty good raidleader
3. Ituh
>Everyone already knows Ituh, he does his shit well and consistently. Not much to explain here.
This part is confusing because Ituh barely even shows up but he does well when he does.
4. Hg
>His spec is shit but he plays well and learns bosses he doesn't know very quickly. There have been some hiccups, but hes without a doubt the best tank.
Pure kek but again he is probably the best tank by virtue of being one of the only tanks
5. Avanine
>Look, success breeds jealousy and god damn you people are constantly fucking salty over her. One of the current top dps, some hiccups on mechanics but otherwise handles shit well, she would be #1 here if she could unglue her eyes from recount.
>her
>she
8/10
Up and Comers Tiers
6. Deimous / Thrang
One is a nazi and the other is afk or leaves. Neither are exceptional.
7. Fku
>A high dps warlock that handles mechanics well and isn't a sperg.
This one is again true
8. Check
>Rogue core has been slacking lately, but Check has been performing well despite this. He handles mechanics, utilizes his wide range of cooldowns and abilities to stay alive
Mostly true, especially the part about roguecore slacking (now that spurdo is gone)
>>143775907
Hodir flash freezes is what I was thinking about. Besides, nobody was dying to beserk because we did more than enough damage, the adds healing him were the issue. You have enough spells to do some respectable damage to any kind of add but you refuse because it's not optimal. And I agree it's probably pretty shitty dps, but you're not going to out damage the healing anyway so might as well try to help out.
I'll say it again try not to ignore it this time, senna puts you in the back because he knows you wont fuck it up.
Everything is always a problem with you and it bothers me. You feel above and beyond to do something that's not standing still and spamming your rotation on the boss.
reminder that if you don't want to be a part of this sick autistic circle jerk <pillar men> on vengeance are recruiting
>>143775907
Why the fuck would you need selfheal in the back of 4HM? You literally have enough Def Spells to survive this with a healer on your side, even as mage.
>>143776408
>>143776573
>>143776771
>reposting posts
>two of which are already in this thread
>one of which I made in the last thread
>>143776889
>dpsing flash freezes other than spamming corruption on them
please tell me more about how much you know about playing affliction warlock.
>>143766481
Tank
1) Hg
2) Buffslave
3) Cunnybunny
Healer
1) Cobe
2) Harmoo
3) Oats
DPS
1) Avanine
2) Senna
3) Celies
Im having fun levelling but the shitposting in here is giving me doubts about continueing...
>>143777162
just fucking hop dude these ToD kiddos are the most autistic bunch this general has ever seen
>>143777162
it's what you called it. shitposting.
you can basically ignore everything here as irrelevant information.
come to discord, have a chat. people aren't absolute fucktards there.
>>143777108
I know next to nothing, im not going to sit here and pretend I'm an expert at affliction.
What I do know is that you can do more than just putting a corruption on it.
>>143776516
>wipe on one phase
>blame guild members
>don't try to help out when it's clearly needed
one phase at a time.
again: selfish behaviour
>>143777275
As if anyone in the discord would ever be honest about how they feel when they're constantly being monitored by the gestapo and at risk of being secretly loot banned if they are too critical of certain players
The truth comes out with anonymity.
>>143777275
>>143777162
prepare to drown in a cesspool of moe weebshit degeneracy , le epic inside jokes ehehe my yurt ima steppe warrior eheheheh and wanting to put hot pokers through your ears when hearing pancakes and welp talk.
>>143777419
See you don't know shit.
Talk in discord so the whole guild can call you retarded.
>>143776573
>Knows mechanics, but doesn't seem to even try to avoid them(???).
Back in my day you benched idoits like this.
>>143777162
It's a warning of whats to come
>>143777621
Shitposting comes out with anonymity. Hop in discord and I'll answer anything you want honestly, as will anyone else. Ask Cobe directly if you want.
>>143777705
keep refusing to dodge anything so people who actually raided when it mattered can call you retarded.
>>143777705
I know one thing, that you willingly ignore mechanics at the cost of kill potential.
for all you arguing fools out there, maybe you should get off your parents computers and play with your toys? lmao
>>143777987
>>143777980
>wasnt me
Nice boogeymanning though. You've got nothing but baseless claims. And when you got btfo you literally pivoted into a completely different argument.
You're shit kid.
>>143778335
>>143778335
not even me l o l
who's goobergate boogeymanning now, u tranny degenerate?
as said by
>>143777715
you'd be warming the bench of any respectable guild but we don't have the luxury of having 5 reliable members so i guess you're in luck :^)
>>143778639
>>143778639
Again I'm not avanine. I'm just pointing out how retarded and uninformed you are.
>>143779190
>>143779190
Inform me, why can't a warlock put an extra dot on an add or throw out a shadowbolt, why can't they spam seed of corruption on the big packs?
>>143779396
