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>50% Renown Boost active through Monday, May 30th at 12AM EST.

Discord server for organized group play:
https://discord.gg/0yy2wDRBnPClTOxo

>Official news
http://rainbow6.ubi.com/siege/en-US/news/index.aspx

http://www.pcgamer.com/rainbow-six-siege-ama-addresses-hit-detection-issues/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=pcgfb

http://blog.ubi.com/rainbow-six-siege-post-launch-maps-operators-modes/

>Developer AMA Recap
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1349361-Developer-AMA-Recap

>Maps and drawing tools for all available gamemodes
http://www.r6maps.com/
http://rainbow6.ubi.com/siege/en-US/whiteboard/landing.aspx

>Weapons and Armor damage comparisons
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fr6MsLNfjDlPESlHGUQxoRiR3yChpewKQAlsOHXG5A8/htmlview?usp=sharing&pref=2&pli=1&sle=true

>Known Issues:
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1332624-Known-Issues

>Basics of CQB Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/ECbQGdVk

>Steam group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/R6GO

>Steam group player list
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nB6S5xtZFuAlnX24VG6IVvOYnI18oOlV2W0SPM3OjaE/edit?pli=1#gid=375665432

>Console group
PS4: Add dazint8 or Omegaplaya and join the /r6g/ community that way
Xbone: not yet made

>All the Classic Rainbow 6 games running on the latest engine, compatible with current windows, all maps, all modes.
http://www.techknow.one/forum/index.php?topic=69.0 (dead link)
http://www.legendsworld.net/shooter/game/11094

>WIP /r6g/ guide for crosshair overlays, tactics etc
http://hnng.moe/7Ik

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dead
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>>143733254
I tried
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Shit OP to be honest.
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>>143733828
srry bby
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>lose 2 people in first round of ranked
>we obviously lose the game but all 3 of us did pretty strong
>finish 8 and 3
>derank
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>shoot the hostage
>enemy drops him
>he falls off the roof
>shoot him then revive the hostage

I shot you to help you, I swear
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>>143729336
Are you trying to tell me they finally got 64 tic servers?

Too bad the game's already dead
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>>143734640
>Running away with the hostage
>Defender just absolutely fucking sprays the hostage
>Defender team has killed the hostage.

Evertim.
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>Sledge
>Can have Machine gun and Shotgun at the same time
>Acog on secondary
>Also gets frag grenades

EXPLAIN THIS!
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Why the fuck is the community so fucking shitty?
>Load into game
>Guy instantly kills the hostage and is auto kicked
>Rejoins the game after a round and kills the hostage again before we can kick him
>People just join games to kill teammates and then leave
>FUZE IS STILL PICKED ON HOSTAGE
I just had a lvl 101 try fuzing the fucking hostage room. I literally babysit people when they pick fuze on hostage and kill them if they try fuzing the room. How are people this fucking dumb?
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Probably the best comeback I'll ever have

Apologies for quality, shitty 3MB limit
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>>143736648
jeese that was pretty good. too bad for consoles
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>>143736648
How the fuck did you know that first guy was about to pop around the corner?
>that aim
Jesus Christ the average PC player I've seen doesn't even aim that good.
What kind of screen do you play on?
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Croatian operators when? Preferably both qt females.
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>>143737103
I think I heard the first guy starting to vault, I'll check the vid. The second guy I saw something wiggling over the shield which is why I fired, hard to see cause of webm quality. Got a lucky as fuck headshot

Just a normal TV? I sit real close though. I still have moments of console aim, I guess I was just in the zone here. Plus Jager's gun handles beautifully.
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>>143737103
>>143737303
I checked the vid and I just straight up saw him, the webm quality just hides it. When I'm looking between the bunk bed pole and the wall I can see his gun and head for a split second
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>>143737303
>>143737452
Yeah just replayed it a few times and you can just make out his gun poking around the corner.
I play on a 42 inch and can't use red dots at all because I can't see shit.
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Reposting some of my OC from last thread.
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>>143738194
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So I started out the game stuck in this bush. I had complete control of everything and with the guidance of my teammates I got to the bush. I was spawning as a defender in the house with my camera outside. Dying didn't do shit.


Is there like a name for this shit?
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>>143738194
L-lewd

I bet Valkyrie has sex with 4 cameras recording
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>>143738194
Why are her shades melting familia?
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>r6g instead of r6sg
fucking idiot OP
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>>143740225
Nah.
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>>143740225
>using the correct thread name makes him an idiot
No u.
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>>143740374
Pure autism. This is a Siege thread and no one cares about the old games.
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>>143740414
>implying sperging out over what's in the subject line of a thread on a Taiwanese basket weaving symposium isn't autism incarnate
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>people don't find the thread
>thread dead
back to rebbit, memester
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>>143740926
I don't think the kind of people who ctrl+f one specific thing then give up are the kind of people who keep a thread alive.
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>>143740926
who cares? this general is on life support no matter what the OP says anyway
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>>143741034
I just do rainbow.
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Glaz should have a VSS
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I need help, I've been trying to play through situations but most of the time they crash at a certain point during loadingscreen, just when it is about to finish loading.

I've bypassed a couple of them by switching uplay on and off and lowering textures, but it doesn't work anymore

Anyone have a fix?
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>>143748745
i've updated drivers, restarted, verified game cache, disabled enabled overlays and nothing works.
I've just confirmed it crashes during all loading screens, for all gamemodes
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>>143736489
Yeah the community for rainbow six is fucking abysmal, which is a shame because I really love this game. It's bad enough I get extra shit from people in CASUAL of all places because I have a high w/l ratio.
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>keeping the discord in the OP

For what purpose?
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>nearing the end of a round
>my team is running out of time, I'm dead, and there's Kapkan traps all over the place
>my Thermite runs for the objective, but he's getting shot up by Rook
>panics and runs right into a trap, but Rook died in the blast somehow
>we win the round off of it and everybody has a good laugh
>except Rook who is furious now and saying it was a teamkill
>we explain to him what happened
>okay gr, nt, all that jazz
>next round
>suddenly everybody on the other team is killing each other
>Rook went Columbine on them because he couldn't grasp the concept of a Kapkan trap
>mfw I don't know what to say while this guy have a meltdown

And we were all having such a nice game, too. I really don't know how he misunderstood that whole accidental teamkill thing. This is a first for me.
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>>143754440
Oh yeah, I did record that match. Well have some new OC, /r6g/.
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>>143754440
>>143755286

>Rook went Columbine on them
I don't know why but this is an extremely funny expression for me
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>>143754440
If you have video of when they went crazy and killed each other I'd like to see it, that shit always makes me laugh, even when it happens to me
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>>143760804
File to big to post, here's a link: https://a.pomf.cat/lykrzg.webm

It's really not that much. It's just them running around outside trying to kill each other. I didn't capture the first teamkills and all of chat since I was busy with preparations and I didn't notice they were fighting. I don't know what happened and if it really was just the kap trap that he was mad about, although he really did believe it was not an accident.

I guess you can use this as a friendly PSA: try not to trigger BasterdSenpai.
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What chibi is the kawaiiest chibi?
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Oh yeah, that Kapkan teamkill thing reminded me of something.

I think I figured out how to remove the bolt.
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I figured out what causes it (sort of). I'm not liking the setup since the old invis glitch was far superior and quicker to do, but I've managed to get real consistent with it. I'm currently testing to see if the limitation I'm currently encountering applies to all rooms and maps.
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>>143755286
>pc superior aim
>pc superior reaction time
10/10
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>>143729336
What's with the weird censoring doe
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Christ these challenges man, so stale

>Get 5 kills in T hunt!
>Get 5 kills
>C4 yourself and call it a day
>Okay wait 70 hours for the next one
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>>143767862
I kind of prefer these new challenges cause I hate when I was forced to play certain operators.
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>>143765593
>>143766105
So spill the beans my mang. How do?
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>>143769136
Soonâ„¢. I was just testing to see how it works on other rooms and on other maps. So far I figured out what causes it fuck up like it does in the pics, so I got a general idea of where you can use it. Because of this, though, it's limitations are disappointing, especially after the old glitch. I'm leaning towards "Not game breaking but it's a nice thing to know."

Webm up soon.
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>>143770471
Alright, looking forward to it. Thanks glitch-anon
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>>143767862
I dont know why 4 of my challenges are always Terrorist Hunt. Ive literally never played it and i dont think anyone plays it.
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>>143771178
>season pass
LMAO
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Sorry jabba
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>>143773927
It's like £5 extra and im not poor.
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>downs himself
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>>143770808
Sorry it's taking a while. As I was recording the webm I was getting a better understanding of why it happens, thus being able to do it faster and less randomly like I previously thought it was. The guide I'm writing now should hopefully have enough insight for you guys to try it out, even if it is kind of hard to understand.
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>That guy that gives up when hes the last alive
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I think he did this on purpose. I dont know
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I think that most people in this game legitimately forget that they can diffuse bomb or extract the hostage.

Sometimes there's just a clear opportunity to leave with the hostage and no one will take it and go roaming for kills instead.
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Alright, so the setup for this is actually somewhat complicated and specific about location, so honestly I don't recommend you attempt this in a ranked game unless you practiced it and spawned somewhere that meets the requirements (which is what the webm shows off). Sounds useless, I know, but I consider it to be a nice "skill" to have if you mastered it.

>HOW TO DO IT
- Find two adjacent doorways/windows.
- Set a trap on one side (you can remove it later, for now don't worry about it being a viable location for traps).
- On the other doorway, begin placing another trap.
- While the animation is just starting and you can see the drill about to come out, mouse over the previous trap.
- Quickly use the interaction key to remove the trap, but snap your mouse away from the trap to cancel the remove animation.
- If you did it right, you'll have the drill in your hand while your weapon is out.
- Now place a trap like you normally would, except now the hook is gone.

>WHERE TO DO IT
- Adjacent doorways/windows, so mostly hallways, but...
- YOU CAN TAKE THE UNHOOKED TRAP ANYWHERE ON THE MAP AFTERWARDS...
- but unhooked traps will always point West. I don't know why it does this, and I tried to find ways to make it point elsewhere, but it really loves to point West. Keep that in mind when you place them.

>OTHER NOTES
- Keep a bit of distance from the second doorway you didn't trap. It helps getting the drill out quicker, from what I noticed.
- Like I mentioned, it loves West. Place it somewhere not suitable for it and the laser will still go West, even going through walls.
- If you didn't snap fast enough and grabbed the first trap, you'll notice the drill will be out with the gun. It may seem like it worked, but it didn't, it's still hooked. You have to cancel the interact/remove animation.

Hopefully that explains it well enough. It takes a while to get it on the first try; the webm I had a harder time because of the table messed me up a bit.
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>>143777113
Damn, webm cut short, but the hook is gone at the end. You can pause it to verify.
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>>143777113
Thanks for the info. Went on trying.
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>>143777113
It fucking works. Kapkan is finally playable. Thanks, anon. I hope it here to stay for long .
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>>143774294
It was asking extra £20 of me last time I checked
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>>143777113
The trap sometimes is being placed in weird position, making it visible from the other side, unless you're going to barricade from the outside.
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Ooooookay, this is new. Same anon here. I just wanted to get a little better at doing the glitch, but I somehow stumbled upon this. I didn't run into this during my testing, so I did something different to make the lasers sit dead center of the barricades. I'll be trying to replicate this /r6g/. It's certainly not like the invis glitch we had before, but this is pretty close to being as good as it.
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>>143778332
>what are sales
>what are keysites
>what is kinguin, g2a etc.
>Oh god i love steam semen so much mmm.
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>>143779050
Okay nevermind I just did the same thing. I was confused for a second why I couldn't see my laser here >>143779114. Well I consider its current state good enough.
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There are some maps I didn't try the glitch at. Unhooked lasers go North in Plane, it seems.
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>>143779935
It's better than nothing, but this way you can't put trap on doorways leading outside, or laser will be seen.
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>>143729336
>playing Defuse the Bomb on Realistic
>no one using cameras
>everyone dies minutes into the game while I'm still scoping the place out with the camera
>start to get votes to kick me
>get kicked

to what fucking end
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>>143767662
Didn't want it to get deleted

Idk how strict /vg/ is
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>>143782943
>playing Realistic with randoms and anything other than Classic or Extract

s m h
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>>143774053
>tfw we ace the whole round

mistakes into miracles
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Dead

:(
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Does anyone actually watch the hostage anymore?
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>>143792796
Depends on the map

Some maps staying near the hostage is a death sentence
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>>143789493
I'm burnt out from R6S and need a break. I spent way too much time messing around with Tachanka and Kapkan. Besides, I'm not sure if I should play some matches or keep finding new stuff.
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>>143771178
I just play it for the ezpz renown
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>>143774261
what the actual fuck Thatcher!
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>>143779562
>steam
not even once
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>2v2
>I flank around and kill one in the back
>meanwhile the other teammate dies
>doesn't give any info on the last guy's location or anything
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>playing blitz
>plant defusor
>entire team lines up on basement stairs on Oregon
>3 get killed because no one noticed bandit behind them
>kill bandit
>kill two more
>die
>enemy defuses
>entire team yelling at me for planting
What the fuck is wrong with people in this game?
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>>143802827
>yelling at the guy who actually did the objective instead of hunting for kills
Ayy lmao the second the defuser is planted the whole room should be a deadzone for the defenders.
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>>143802827
if you're not properly defending the defuser planting it is basically just a death sentence since they can just destroy the defuser instead of killing the enemy.
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>>143803596
The room was completely empty, there were two doors to watch and 4 of us.
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>>143801870
>Both teams inna stalemate
>Realize there's a perfect flanking opportunity during that time
>I'm playing as slow, fat fuck Rook
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Compensator or flash hider for Buck's FAL?
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>>143804380
Take a guess the Fal is only single fire and what attachment reduces single fire recoil?
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>>143804725
oh SHIT
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>>143804830
waddup?
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>>143805140
What other guns benefit from it? BB's single shot gun and Twitch?
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You can use the flash hider on every weapon if you use burst fire if you supress alot and spray in general the comp is better.
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>>143805934
Oh it's easy just look at pic related
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>>143807308
Trust me, my question contributes to the dead general way more than the shitty webms of people playing in casuals.
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>>143807308
>am I cool yet guize?
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>>143807614
No need to be rude, what did the webms ever do to you
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>>143807631
>hey guize what's a better attachment for recoil management on semi-automatic weapons?
>the flash hider? The one that compensates for single fire shots?
>or the compensator? The one that compensates for full auto sprays?

Are you for real shitting on me because I'm not spoonfeeding some retard? Go fuck off reddit.
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>>143808006
>am I cool yet guize, I told him to go to Plebbit. Epic win AMIRITE? xD
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>>143808359
Okay reddit, calm down no need to get offended
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>>143736489
>Not Fuzing the rooms adjacent to the hostage room
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>>143808809
See >>143808359
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>>143815640
see>>143808809
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>>143816720
See >>143733923
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I'm close to becoming a Kapkan master.

People often think he's useless because they rarely get kills with him. I think he's the more challenging and skill based operator of them all. He requires players to trick the enemy psychologically by positioning the traps a particular way.

I've used a tactic where if there's 3+ doorways leading towards the objective, the first doorway I bust 2 holes making the enemy think I was using it to cheek them outside. The 2nd doorway I leave alone, the 3rd I bust two holes and place my trap which they least expect.

People are often more cautious from the first 2 doorways, beyond that they gain confidence thinking Kapkan is off duty.
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>>143819687

You must become the cheeki to breeki fellow comrade.
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>>143819687

you cheeky fuck
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>>143819687
Oi I'm gonna be watching for this now m8
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>>143807614
Well fuck you too, buddy. I'm just an anon who happens to have recording software.
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I'm kinda disappointed that the classic Rainbow Six theme music isn't in Rainbow Six Siege.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of8UYlIBAyQ
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>>143820185

You won't because after each defensive round I change it up because they'll learn from the first. The following round in the same spot.
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>>143823317
I'll just pay more attention for red screws, it's not that hard
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Does r6s have gunskins and microtransactions?

Do you get anything special in-game if you pick up a pre-order copy?
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>>143824340
Yes and yes

There was a gold weapon skin in new copies that you might get
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>>143822759
The main menu theme that came with Dust Line is good though.
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>>143822759
Fuck, you made me want to replay the classics again. Goddammit.

We should share plans for those missions and carry them out, that'd be sweet
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>>143823486
>I'll just pay more attention for red screws, it's not that hard

You'd be surprised how many numfucks rush through doorways playing as Buckfuck thinking they're guys by rushing in. They bust down the door in 1 whack (because of my 2 holes) and kaaaboooom.
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>>143823317
>>143819687
What's your uplay? I want to learn the ways of the Cheeki
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>>143825660

You couldn't even possibly understand my capabilities or powers of Kapkan, I share a spiritual connection with his traps and his spirit animal.
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>>143826349
Ok
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>play ranked with friends
>10 win streak
>play ranked with random
>teammates are genuinely retarded
>deranked
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>>143827735
>ever playing ranked without friends
That's on you, familia
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>>143824340
Plenty of gunskins
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>>143828582
>so many great skins only available on one gun

I would love to have Aero on all my guns.
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>>143828582
What guns have zebra on them?
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>>143832057
It's a paid skin so all of them
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>>143824340

You would get 2 Special skins if you played the Open and Closed Beta

Fire and Phoenix
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I wish for Ding Chavez to return.
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>>143832886

Ghost Operators when
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>>143832886
I agree.
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>>143834216
Splinter Cells when?
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New game modes when
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>>143837647
Season 3 maybe. Esports shit is starting today so I doubt we'll see new game modes until it's over.
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Why is the 416 Carbine pure sex?
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>>143838143
Because it's the only rifle the defenders have and you're shooting at unarmored targets
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Damn
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>fag picks Glaz on Oregon
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>>143838642
>Someone shoots from the tower
>Glaz kills him
>one less defender
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I was thinking of saving up for a weapon charm but now I'm gonna buy Blackbeard since he's stupidly OP
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>>143838895
two things are required for that to happen

They aren't in the basement AKA every first round ever
And the glaz can return fire.

Both of those are very unlikely.
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Just picked up this game yesterday, really liked the beta but I wanted to wait until I could get it cheaper. What are the must have starting operators?
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>>143839020
you're waifu
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>>143839020
From the defaults: Thermite, Rook, Jager, Thatcher
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>>143839235

From the 4 I've gotten so far I managed to get none of those. I like Smoke but he needs to put some arm behind that damn gas throw
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>>143838975
Well i haven't had the basement on that map in ages its always the fucking kids room no matter which side or the meeting hall also whenever someone picks Glaz on that map i tell them to watch the tower windows since i've seen alot of people trying to flank from there.
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>>143839308
The gas canisters are more for area denial than grenade use. Throw 'em at a hole so people can't get through for a few seconds
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>>143839308
You probably figured this out already, but just look upwards when you throw something if you want it to go slightly farther.
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>>143839553
>>143839742

Thanks for the tips. I usually just toss them at dudes with shields or rooms where I see people shooting from.
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>>143839308
Who are the other 3 operators you got first?
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>>143840035
They're also great for rare instances when you down someone that's behind cover or it's too risky to peek into a room and finish them off, a gas bomb works nicely.
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>pick really weird uncommon spot on House to hide and wait
>fucking Sledge just barges in like nothing and gets a shotgun to the face
>next attack same dude is rappelling to the top of the house while bombs are in the basement
>see his line and shoot him in the face when he went past a window
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>>143841785
I don't understand the pic. What's the context?
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>>143842021
Me apologizing to the guy for fucking over in such a random location thus why it accompanies the post about me fucking a guy over in really random spot
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>>143842105
I had no idea this pic is related to R6 in some way.
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>>143842246
You should probably read the post it's attached to
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>>143842312
What hes probably talking about is he doesn't know what messages looks like on xbox smartglass.
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>>143839189
>didn't even reload after killing castle
madman
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>>143842602
>didn't reload after killing teammate
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>>143842680
whoops, i meant ash

i have WINDOW BLACKED on the mind
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>>143842602
>>143842680
Where the fuck did he TK castle?
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>>143842962
see >>143842889
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>No patches next month thanks to esport
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>tfw out of elo hell

Now the grind for Platinum begins
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>tfw 8 MVPs tonight
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>>143846846
Patch 3.2 was already announced early June.
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>>143850672
Knowing ubi it will still not fix anything and anything that could change the tournament meta will also not happen like a fucking buff for kapkan
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>>143850804
Season 2 finals isn't started yet, so I hope that patch will add some balance changes. And for me personally balancing isn't so important, in general except few operators it's good enough. I hate more fact that Ubi can't provide hotfixes on PC for glitches, bugs, etc. I think that because they have some sort of agreement with Microsoft and Sony have a same version of game at all platforms. But fuck this is so stupid.
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>first lost of the night is because one guy lagged out and randoms were no mics and a spic who barely understood english
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>>143846847

Finally broke into Silver I last night

Feels good man. Now looking at that Gold I
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>get an unreasonable amount of kills for one person
>team still loses

Hard carry life is hard.
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>>143853321
>kill the guy with 8 kills by window peeking at the beginning of the round
>can now relax for the rest of the round while we mop up the rest
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dead
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>ubisoft is afraid of misbalancing kapkan into something OP
>Releases Blackbeard
They must be doing this on purpose
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>>143856773
Of course, it's a DLC operator that is extremly OP like frost for the first 2 months to make people buy the season pass.
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>>143856773
>>143857492
>blackbeard
>OP

I don't understand why you niggers cant flank and not peak fucking windows when you know hes there.

Do you also peak windows when there's a blitz right there? If you answer no then what the fuck are you doing?
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>>143853884
>window peaking
You say that as if you did something benevolent.
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>>143857804
Well you wouldn't peek when someone is covering that door most of the time anyways. And to kill anybody you can just flank. They aren't specific Blackbeard counters, they're fucking enemy operator counters. The thing with Blackbeard is he practically takes away half of your options of what you can do, especially if he's somewhere like the stair windows on House. Unless you have someone commit away from the defense to jump outside and risk dying to kill Fagbeard he'll just peek that hallway all round.

This isn't a situation of OP like Frost where she can just point in your general direction, spam M1 and kill whatever is there, this is a situation where an operator fundamentally breaks the game. It punishes people who learned the mechanics and went through the time to get good and awards people that don't know how to peek, arguably one of the most important aspects of the game.
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>>143858205
>this is a situation where an operator fundamentally breaks the game. It punishes people who learned the mechanics and went through the time to get good

Holy shit! A DLC operator that brings new shit to the table and changes some mechanics to the game so the game doesn't play the exact same 24/7 since the day it came out. Its like they should've done this with Buck and Frost but instead just added two people with guns and that's it really.

Don't mention bear traps people caught onto those after a week and nothing changed.
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>>143858508
It doesn't change any mechanics. It doesn't bring anything new to the table. Shields are a thing and they were always balanced out by being slow, noisy, one dimensional, and unable to have more firepower than a pistol. Blackbeard has some of the better weapons in the game (SCAR has like no fucking recoil at all) and does nothing unique other than the fact that he's practically impossible to beat head-on unless you're two feet away as Frost/Valk and just spray away.
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>>143858780
>>143858508
The reason that shields and blackbeard in general are overpowered basically breaks down like this:

-Shields, including BB's shield, have either literal infinite HP or effectively infinite HP. The entire idea of this is fucking retarded.

-He's immune to headshots from the front, and if you're literally anything but braindead, you'll use him to peak windows. You basically get the benefits of a shield, total immunity, while still having a primary weapon and the ability to ADS at people and fuck their shit up.

-BB actually has good weapons, way better than he should have.

-The fucking awful latency/tickrate issues that mean that peekers have a full half-second or so of time when the defender hasn't registered the movement because they just haven't shown up on screen, plus the fact that you'll try to shoot back, and loltickrate/latency says that the shield is where you clearly just shot their head. That's why you hear so many people say that they shot shield users, saw the blood splatter, and the shield guy took zero damage. It's because the game, despite not visually showing it there, is saying the shield was in the way and ate the damage.
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>>143857804
>why don't people do the thing against BB that is the soft counter to literally every other character
Because many times it's simply not feasible. A general natural weakness is not a good counter for a character with such a strong offense.
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>>143858780
The SCAR has no recoil cause it has no ROF compared to other guns in the game. He brings to the table that you can't just peak a window 24/7 which is already a risky move to begin with but makes him king of the window breach. Blackbeard is an all around good character for general breach and clear but hes still slow, has a low rof gun, and the shield only covers so much. Hes not a one man army unless if the retards on the enemy team come at you one at a time.

>>143859110
-Blackbeards shield isn't invincible like riot shields
-Yeah hes immune to headshots you just have to shoot the rest of his giant slow moving body and not peak the fucking window which he was obviously made to be used at
-The Scar is a good gun but if you remove the shield its pretty low tier. Sure it has high damage but why use it over a famas if the name of the game is getting headshots
- I don't know why your bringing latency bullshit into an argument over if a character is OP. Yes there's problems but that shouldn't be part of your arguement

You're an idiot who needs to get good.
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>>143859580
Blackbeards shield is functionally invincible because you will never do enough damage to it to kill it before he kills you. Scar has almost zero recoil.

>Latency doesn't matter
>An almost full-second delay between when you move and when the movement registers on the enemy screen, but the game will still allow you to shoot them in the head and register it as a kill
>This isn't a problem

Are you actually retarded, or what? Because goddamn, son.
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>>143859441
You set yourself up in a position where you can't flank from him. There's very very very few examples where its impossible to get a flank off due to map design. Bitching about bad planning doesn't make him OP. That's like calling Montagne OP cause you don't have any nitro cells on your team.

I also want to ask you something about your stats. How many of those kills were done while you were rappelling? How many of those kills were people attacking you while stationary?
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>>143859580
>Hes not a one man army unless if the retards on the enemy team come at you one at a time.
Yes he is. Don't pretend that BB is only capable of holding windows. A corner peak means only a sliver of his arm or leg is exposed. He can hold interior corners like no other. Not to mention he can take heavy advantage of all the chairs, desks, and other waist high covers and effectively lock down huge areas.

>>143859749
You do realize it's not 5vblackbeard right? Flanking always has risk of running into attackers. Just because you know where blackbeard is doesn't mean he's alone and lacking total situational awareness. Not to mention if you're using rook any slow character, your chances of making it to his flank without getting screwed is pretty slim, unless you happen to have taken out the rest of his team first.

The first half or so of my kills were from rappelling. That got boring and I wanted to test the limits of the character, so I started pushing in with the rest of the team. He's devastating even when breaching.
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>>143859743
Latency is an issue of its own which doesn't affect only blackbeard. I'm not saying its not a problem don't put words in my mouth.

Blackbeards shield is functionally not invincible because you aren't fucking shooting his shield. You see a blackbeard and you instantly go for his body instead the shield. This makes sense why shoot a shield unless if you were caught off by him or just have shit aim. If you actually shoot his shields its not invincible which is what you said by comparing it to riot shields.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gto4FZCRXdE
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>>143859934
>He can hold interior corners like no other.
That would make him OP if he was a defender. Him holding down shit as an attacker means shit if the defenders don't fucking peak. It does him no good to hold down say the 2nd floor hallway on house through the stairway window if the defenders are on the objective.

>A corner peak means only a sliver of his arm or leg is exposed.
If only there was a sure fire tactic to deal with this like the other people with shields. I wonder what that could be. I'll give you a hint its called a nitro cell.

>Flanking always has risk of running into attackers.
That's why cameras, communication, good headphones and knowledge of the map is for.
>Not to mention if you're using rook any slow character
"oh no this slow ass heavy body armor dude with an extra layer of body armor is slow and can't outflank the other slow rifle shield dude."
Yeah cause you're playing a slow operator. You're not going to be flanking people 90% of the time you're holding down the objective. Any good player BB or not will take you down instantly if they hear rooks fat ass on the move trying to come behind.
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>>143859937
You see an enemy, you do the exact same thing that years of playing this game have trained you to do, which is go for a headshot. You realize it's a BB. You go to switch to a bodyshot, already having fired rounds. Blackbeard has now had at least a full second or two between peekers advantage and you shooting to see you, aim, and start shooting. His gun has little to no recoil. You die almost immediately, because unless he's cripplingly retarded, he's peeking where you can't even SEE his body, just the shielded head.

You're looking at upwards of half a mag to an entire mag and then some to take down his shield. You just aren't going to hit it that much. It isn't going to happen. He's gonna whittle you down before you get anywhere close to breaking it.

I'm not saying you can't kill him. He CAN die. But the shield goes directly against the skills that EVERYONE learns for this game, gives him the time he needs to fuck your shit up, and is generally, at least how it stands right now, not balanced.

At least he isn't as bullshit as Valk. Enemy Valk? Fucking Panopticon shit. Your Valk? Throws their cameras in the worst spots, sits there and does nothing, then dies to a knife from a fucking Fuze.
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>>143860275
Except that BB can do this from across a map because his weapon is a rifle, not a shitty pistol, so unless you've unlocked some hidden operator able to throw a nitro hard enough to hit fucking Siberia from New York City, good luck nitroing him 99% of the time.
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>>143860290
>You see an enemy, you do the exact same thing that years of playing this game have trained you to do
And that brings me back to my origin fucking point. He changes the actual flow of the game. He makes you play different. Makes you look out more for a big ass fucker in desert camo. Unlike Frost pre nerf which was a broken shotgun and now you have to pay slightly more attention AKA LOOKING DOWN.


>>143860353
Hang on a fucking second. When I said use a fucking nitro cell you I was referring to when you said "peaks a corner". AKA hes at a corner and peaking at it. Now what you're saying a corner peak means hes on the other side of the fucking map.
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>>143860275
>That would make him OP if he was a defender. Him holding down shit as an attacker means shit if the defenders don't fucking peak
how about this
>hold down objective room, rooms next objective room
>roamers have been taken care of, the defenders have absolutely no mobility and have to wait to get fucked over by rest of team

>I'll give you a hint its called a nitro cell.
You'd have to get in range first, and assuming so, his dps and accuracy is many times that of a normal shield which means he can round that corner when he hears that tape and kill you before you push the button.

>That's why cameras, communication, good headphones and knowledge of the map is for.
of course. That's just in general, and doesn't help due to plain bad luck or very effective enemy movements

>Any good player BB or not will take you down instantly if they hear rooks fat ass on the move trying to come behind.
and rook and any slow op will still stand somewhat a chance against an attacker when detected when trying to flank. Against a nonretarded BB there's literally nothing they can do
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>>143859580
>>143858508
>>143857804
t. Blackbeard player
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>>143860471
>Now what you're saying a corner peak means hes on the other side of the fucking map.
What. You can't peak a corner at range? Why would a blackbeard peak a close corner? He's not a shield with shit accuracies
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>>143860513
>roamers have been taken care of, the defenders have absolutely no mobility and have to wait to get fucked over by rest of team
Team is garbage if they let you into the objective room so easy.

>he can round that corner when he hears that tape and kill you before you push the button.
Blackbeard is still pretty slow though even if hes not a full riot shielder and on top of that him also not being as strong armor wise means nitro cell can kill him easier as well.

>Against a nonretarded BB there's literally nothing they can do
You're assuming you can't kill BB with bodyshots m8 and that hes also no weak from say previous firefights with a roamer or two.

>>143860590
When you say peak a corner I'm assuming your referring to say peaking the small doorway to the armory on the SAS base.Where a nitro cell to BB face would promptly kill him easy. Now what I imagine is going on in your head is peaking a corner means that long hallway between the garage on SAS base connecting to the main hallway.

>>143860557
God forbid people fucking post in this thread about their views. Nah lets stay fucking dead instead.
Faggot
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One time I clutched it out as a 1v3. Killed a guy. Then the second guy coming into the room was BB. I just sprayed at his head hoping to ping his head maybe. He must have had it rough earlier cause I got lucky and his shield broke and I finished him off. Then I got the third guy for then win. That was the first time I experienced BB's shield breaking.

Has anyone ever broke BB's shield? Either as BB or as a defender?
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>>143860931
t. salty Blackbeard player
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>>143860471
First off, you can barely tell who's peaking at range, especially with the whole "Hurr durr looking inside/outside from the other one means either PITCH BLACK or THE WHITE HOT BRIGHTNESS OF THE SUN", so you aren't going to see his camo shit.

Second off, yes, of course he changes the game. He's an operator with a mechanic that flies right in the face of what EVERYTHING THIS GAME TEACHES YOU. It tells you to go for headshots, he's immune to them. His gun is good enough that if you fail to fuck him up immediately, you're GONNA eat shit for it.

He's bullshit because it's what sells DLC. They'll eventually tweak his shield to something more reasonable. We all know it. It's a fact of games with DLC. Same shit will happen with Valk cams.

>>143861030
There's probably someone out there who has, but in a real match, no, you won't. If he's anything but shit, he'll fuck you up the second you shoot the shield, because you just gave him free shots on you.
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>>143861030
>breaking blackbeards shield
LOL
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>>143860931
>Team is garbage if they let you into the objective room so easy.
Or they got fucked up or pushed back thanks to BB taking advantage of corners and waist high cover while moving in.

>Blackbeard is still pretty slow though even if hes not a full riot shielder and on top of that him also not being as strong armor wise means nitro cell can kill him easier as well.
He may be slow, but rounding a corner is still extremely fast. It's not hard to eat up angles if you take it in close, which you can safely do thanks to the shield. And if you're throwing c4 too steep an angle at the corner (or really any angle) you run the risk of the bb dodging away once he hears the tape.


>You're assuming you can't kill BB with bodyshots m8 and that hes also no weak from say previous firefights with a roamer or two.
all he needs is a desk or corner, and he's nigh invincible both of which are more than plentiful. Then there's always the problem of engaging him not knowing it's him, which fucks experienced players up more than anything
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>>143861118
>you can barely tell who's peaking at range
Footsteps, You actually see the guy via camera or his gun.

>He's bullshit because it's what sells DLC. They'll eventually tweak his shield to something more reasonable. We all know it. It's a fact of games with DLC. Same shit will happen with Valk cams.
Except you can buy him via renown and they are currently working on a buff for his shield right now.
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>>143861240
>Footsteps,
He sounds like everyone else, and you won't hear footsteps well at range anyways

>Except you can buy him via renown
for the first week you couldn't. That's the whole point of the pass. Not to mention all the other people who don't play enough or new players that won't get enough renown till a month or two after release, when they're about to get nerfed
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How would you guys feel if Tachanka got a turret shield? Similar in size to BBs but solid metal and the only sight is a vertical metal slit? So you can get a head shot but it is harder. Pros: Tachanka's head is more protected. Cons: Less sight when ADS. You can still hit the body.
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>>143861505
Too late now that BB exists. Feels redundant. A shield of some sort would have been alright a few months ago.
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>>143861505
Great. If it was a shield at the tip of the gun so when he turned it wouldn't cover his head it would be completely balanced and would encourage him to be picked as strong area denial.
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>>143861208
>Or they got fucked up or pushed back thanks to BB taking advantage of corners and waist high cover while moving in.
Only time that would happen is if the objective by a window and the defenders don't even bother defending the actual room.
>all he needs is a desk or corner, and he's nigh invincible both of which are more than plentiful
Yeah but all that does for most objective rooms means the defenders can't peak but that also means you have to go in and get them which they then can hear the loud footsteps of BB which sounds awfully a lot like a riot shielder which most defenders if they have it will throw a nitro cell and even if that doesn't kill BB he'll be weak as hell unless if the defender is really shit.

>>143861359
for the first week you couldn't. That's the whole point of the pass. Not to mention all the other people who don't play enough or new players that won't get enough renown till a month or two after release, when they're about to get nerfed
The players that don't play enough or noobs will either not give a shit about BB at all or have the pass already thus unlocking BB right away.
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>>143861941
>means the defenders can't peak
Usually you find out he's holding some lines because someone peaked and got his head blown off. Otherwise, unless you have a lucky valk camera, you don't know what he's doing, or what he's capable of holding down exactly because you won' t know his exact position.
>they then can hear the loud footsteps of BB
BB sounds like everyone else. The only thing that would give him away, is that he's moving very very slow, slightly slower than fuze would. Otherwise there's no audible tell, unless he's mounting his shield. I can't tell a difference playing him, I can't tell the difference playing against him, and I'm watching videos right now and he sounds like everyone else. I don't even see any forum posts on him making different sounds
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>>143841785
Where's the spot famalam?
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>>143861941
>The players that don't play enough or noobs will either not give a shit about BB at all or have the pass already thus unlocking BB right away.
Considering how OP bb is right now, everyone gives a shit about him, just like frost before him. This is the whole appeal of the season pass. If they didn't give a shit about these sick new OP dlc characters, many of these people that already have the pass as you claim, wouldn't have bought it in the first place
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>down 2 - 0 players keep joining/leaving every round
>manage to win two rounds in a row
>last gets stuck on R6 loading screen, can hear announcer though
>kicked for inactivity

This is becoming a joke lads.
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>>143864131
ESPORT READY
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>>143864595

Esports are not needed anyway
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>>143866917
It drags out updates since they can't do any real buffs nor nerfs if that shit is going on and since ubi does not release any hotfixes we always have to wait for big patches until after that shithow of a pro league.
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>>143867774

Were getting one Tomorrow? They said early June.
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>>143868069
Let's hope then it adds some balance like a fucking buff for kapkans traps fucking miserable how shit they are and some rework on the cheating policy to not give them a free pass since lol its the first incident here have a day off.
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>>143868354

Lets not go that far stalker.

This is the only place where people want Kapkan buffed sadly.
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>>143870000
Literally all he needs is the spike removed from the traps, the laser to be turned down to almost invisible unless you throw a smoke grenade near it or there's dust, and for it to just down you like Frost's beartraps.
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>>143870368
I really don't understand why they keep refusing changing him to something useful. Same with Tachanka. Do devs even play their own games?
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>>143870000
Sadly, the invis glitch caused so much anal devastation amongst new players that it forver gave Kapkan a bad name. To them, Kapkan being relevant is him being OP. Kapkan being useless is the only thing they'll ever accept.
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>>143850804
>>143868354
>muh kapkan
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>tfw buddy stops playing with you
Well solo queue isn't too bad I guess
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SUPRESSORS.

YES OR NO?

DISCUSS.
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>rook doesn't drop armor until after prep is over
>bandit uses shock on barbed wires
>mute tries to double jam reinforced walls
>tachanka puts his LMG in an area with massive blindspots
gg baddies
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>>143872846
>rook drops his armor
>everyone ignores it.
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>>143872835
Attacking it's a toss up. Some operators benefit from having the stealth and others might as well not bother since they're a big enough threat they don't need to hide, like Blackbeard.
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>>143871537
Cyka blyat idi nahui i just want his gadget to be viable all it takes would be removing the laser or reducing it to be barely visible and painting the hook grey
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>>143828582
>95% of all skins are just wraparound textures
>70% of all skins are generic ones shared between all guns
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>>143875714

Have you seen the new GIGN one? Shit is sick
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>>143875714
>same skins for every gun
>still have to rebuy it each time individually.
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>>143872846
>>mute tries to double jam reinforced walls
What did you mean by this?
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>>143879323
Either putting one jammer between two reinforced walls or putting a jammer on a shocked wall. Both are bad ideas
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>You are the last one defending
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>>143873034
I use suppressor on BB. Enemies can't recognize that I fire from scar if shots are silenced, so they must use voice/text chat to tell everyone that blackfuck is coming. Yes, I play only casuals and almost nobody uses voice there
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>it's another "the entire team goes lurking and you're the only one left defending the objective after they all get picked off one by one" episode
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>>143881456
I thought I heard on here that mutes jammer can work between two reinforced walls?
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>>143891264
Only small ones.
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>>143891303
Good to know, not that anyone ever uses thermite when I'm playing mute, but whatevs.
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>>143891746
Well you can deny fuze if it matters and maybe even interrupt scout drones late game.
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what are some good cheats for this game
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>>143895909
The cheat where you git gud
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How many points are needed to get Diamond rank? I'm currently at platinum 3 with 5484 but it tells me the requirement for diamond is 0
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>>143890332
>ranked
>entire team goes roaming leaving you the only one in objective
>whole enemy team drone you and see it
>they all rush in one window, kill you and win by either taking the hostage or securing the area cus the roamers are too scared to move quickly
>this happens every defence even though you tell them to keep close or have another person in the objective
>lose the game and they message you saying it's your fault
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>>143899996
Roamers are usually shitters who can't defend the obj when its needed and only come back for epic shots in the back for muh K/D.
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Did they reduce the spread on bucks skeleton key? I can't shoot a wall and jump through it with just one shot anymore
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>>143901721
They accidently broke the skeleton key, it's supposed to be fixed next update whenever that is.
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>>143734378
The ranking system is fucking retarded

>Lose hard fought match against team of people in higher divisions
>Get deranked
>Sweep team of scrubs 4-0
>Rank up
Like what the fuck is this shit? There's too much emphasis on winning and losing(Note: TOO much) and not enough on performance.

Losing in the very last round of overtime to a good team isn't the same as being swept for example.

Trying to get to Gold I but I'm stuck in Silver IV because my squad isn't consistent enough to win 5-6 games in a row, it's more like win 2, drop 1, repeat, only it's just enough to not get me into gold.

.9 k/d and 1.2 w/l ratio, level 85.
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>>143839189
>dat bitrate
Try a lower res
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>>143767862
Fuck these new challenges, they only pay 150 each no matter what. I miss the old challenges that actually required a little bit of effort but were at least worthwhile.
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>>143808006
You took a simple this or that question and turned it into a spergfest all because you wanted to be an epic memester.

>Hurrr if I reply like a pretentious cunt I'll fit in
You're trying WAY too hard, slow down.
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