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Billy edition

>CK
http://www.creationkit.com/fallout4/index.php?title=Main_Page

>Fallout 4 General Information (Read Before Asking Questions)
http://pastebin.com/UkxVHYQB

>Vault Dweller's Survival Guide Links
http://pastebin.com/x1yeAmcP

>The Art of Fallout 4
https://mega.nz/#!vQkWVLpD!nBOiJBqgYriOJNkjU8OqxSFOfpKJHYWT6wZunopd6Fg

>Fallout 4 Item IDs
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J9quAMtGK70aptz0t5teqWHGZJ9T9uvJmzNEBJEB36Q/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true

>Fallout 4 Legendary Effects & IDs Guide
http://pastebin.com/qg0KhsCA

>Fallout 4 Settlement Mods & Information
http://pastebin.com/QJquVveh

>CBBE Links & Outfit Studio Guide
http://pastebin.com/GG0n8K62

>Fallout 4 Mods By /fog/ And/Or Removed from Nexus
http://pastebin.com/6kGZaPiy

>HELP! THE NEW PATCH BROKE MY MODS!
http://pastebin.com/dfRatvDc

>Fallout 3/NV
http://pastebin.com/wVAqLvCD

>Archive
http://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/subject/fog/

>/aco/ Thread
>>>/aco/fallout (nsfw)

>/y/ Thread
>>>/y/fallout (nsfw)

Pre-War Thread: >>143470762
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>>143516367
>not making X6-88 white
>mfw
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>>143516642
>Not making him use the Assaultron sword and making him go full Blade
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>>143516642
>using companions
>taking the time to make that nigger white
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>billy

lol i sold that abomination when i realized the game """"""""designers"""""""" considered him a human child and therefore unable to be purged
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>3 DLCs in
>No new unarmed weapons or mods
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So I was thinking earlier today.

Could the Mariner be cured with the Vault 81 miracle cure? Or mysterious serum? I'm a little surprised that the SS couldn't cure her at all. I missed the speech check for this apparently, so she just keeps moaning about the Red Death and knuckleheads not helping her, but I'm surprised its never mentioned again past then.
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>>143516850
Actually, the meat hook in far habor is counted as an unarmed weapon. You can upgrade it to look more claw-like or keep it single hooked and go for The Slasher Movie Villain look.
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>>143516850
That reminds me, wasn't there supposed to be axes in Far Harbor?
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>>143516423
captain's hat, 10% move speed. Complete the Captain's Dance quest in Far Harbor to get it.
marine right arm, 10% move speed, buy it for 10-16k caps from one of the vendors in the Nucleus.

you can get Sprinter leg pieces in the regular game, but for guaranteed ones, buy a left leg combat armor from the general trader in Bunker Hill, and a right leg from Daisy in goodneighbor.

I recommend getting the Armorsmith and Legendary Modification mods so you can get those effects and put them on whatever hat/right arm/left and right legs you find cool looking, because right now my character is an abomination in terms of fashion.
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>>143515538
>>143516423
respond PLEASE
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>>143517117
>>143517126
thanks I appreciate you
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>>143517126
:^)

Alternatively configure the player's speed by changing the speedmult actor value. 100 is base speed. 150 is 1.5 the base speed.
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>>143516891
She's sick?
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goggles GET

reason why everything is red is because muh thermal vision (kinda works like Boone's Spotter perk in NV)
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>>143517117
Fast note in my experience: I once uzsed legendary modding to give myself a full sprinters set. With an explosive combat shotgun and my 1 end, I proceeded to play TF2 Scout in the Commonwealth.

It was fun.
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>>>/v/338979437

Remainder, far Harbour is trash
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>>143517501
You're trash.
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>>143517501
>>143517612
No, this is trash: >>/trash/
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>>143517501
>>143517612
You're both recycling.
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Have you guys noticed that the vertibird minigun is much stronger than the one you get normally? Most of you may have picked up on that given the mission where you have to Death From Above a super mutant behemoth and it chews right through him, but going through the game files the difference is immense...

The regular minigun has a base damage of 8 (fucking eight... compared to an assault rifle's 30) but the vertibird minigun is a whopping 25, which seems more in-line with its intended function.

What the fuck, Beth?
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>>143517501
And it will remain so for as long as you visit /v/ even ironically.
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>>143518056
Was it? Just thought it was scripted low level deathclaw. Might be a mod on it.
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>>143518056

I hope a DLC gives us more mods for some of the base weapons.

The amount of mods you can give the minigun is pathetic. I have no idea why it has no reciever options. I know a mod does it but they could have made a .50 bmg reciever for it so you can make the minigun a goddamn Vulcan.
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>>143518335
What's Preston doing behind her?
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>>143518550
waiting to give her the radiant quest
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>>143518550

Unpeeling his Banana
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Why won't this stupid bitch give me Hull Breach 2?

What's the base ID for it?
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>>143518056
>What the fuck, Beth?
Game balance, nigga. If you think this is a Bethesda problem you're kidding yourself.

Plenty of shooters have NPC versions of weapons do way more damage than the one that players get.

>>143518310
He means the one mounted on vertibirds you ride.
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So I couldn't find anything in the readme, what are some good radio mods for New Vegas? I used to have a really good one that added over 100 songs (the one that was taken down from the nexus) But ever since I wiped my mods to do over without all the problems from the last time I can't seem to find it again. I've already tried that wave radio one and, while alright (love Johnny B Goode turning on in a firefight) but I couldn't stand the cringe-inducing DJ. Semi-same problem with CONELRAD.
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So has anyone tried to edit the model for the pipboy yet? I thought the concept pipboy looked great, and would love to see someone make it.
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>>143518713

Did you kill machete Mike? I think that fucks up her quests.
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>>143518879
I did, and I figured that's why.
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>>143518550
Haven't I seen this meme before?
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>>143518918

I think its weird how there's no warning of that whatsoever, does she even say anything to you about his death?
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>>143518713
>>143518879
The Mariner does not fuck with you if you kill Machete Mike, I believe it's intentional cause she has dialogue for it at a certain point.
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>CROSS PlasRail
>http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/13850/?

yaaay I remember the author posting a webm of this in gun action a month or two ago on fog and I was wondering what it was
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>>143519310
>memelands weapons
no thanks cuck
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well that's unusual
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>>143518713
I haven't played this dlc yet. Is this woman romanceable? A follower?
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>>143519310

The weapon looks neat but like all cross stuff the paints are trash.

Needs to be dirtied up a little bit and given a BoS and Institute paint job.
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>>143519310
>>143519436
>PlasRail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZNUswc7Jr0

oh is this a gun from borderlands?
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>>143518773
Perhaps someone here still has that 100 more songs for Mojave Music Radio mod? I'd really appreciate yah
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>>143519798
The weapon is clearly dirty and scratched. What you have is a rust and grunge fetish.

Just google the appropriate textures and apply them yourself.
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>>143519941
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>>143519725

She's not romanceable or a follower. She just gives you some quests. There's a reason why she isn't romanceable or a follower. spoiler She has cancer or something, and she only has six weeks tops to live.

She does go with you on one quest, but she doesn't follow you around or anything.
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>>143516642
>this my settlement, it was made for me!
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>>143520042
>>>/v/ermin
Go back to your own kind
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>>143520182
>being this mad about opinions
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>>143518714
It is a Bethesda problem.

The vertibird minigun with the 25 damage is the "player" version. The NPC version only does 5 damage (for some reason, maybe they really wanted Vertibirds to be a non-threat to the player). This means there's three versions of the minigun in the game's files, and two are shit for undetermined reasons.

If you want to say "balance" because you can get a minigun near the start of the game, there's a dozen other possible solutions.

1) the base minigun is garbage just as it already is, but with more mods with the highest tiers being more difficult to construct and offering a significant boost to the lackluster weapon

2) miniguns rape face but the one the player finds in the building is "unique" in that it is mostly busted and in such bad shape it does pitiable damage, only worth using for scrap after finding one that's been kept in good functional condition

3) have the ammo (5mm, which ONLY the minigun uses) on your leveled list only show up at higher levels, so the 500 rounds you get at the start are pretty much all the player's going to see for a good long while

And that's just off the top of my fucking head. "Balance". What a joke. Makes no damn sense for an assault rifle or hell even an automatic combat rifle to so grossly outdamage what SHOULD be an absolute beast of a weapon.
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Playing fallout 4 for the first time. What should I do before even pressing the start game button?
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>>143520240
What opinion? You shitposted after I told you to make the textures yourself. Just go back to /v/ already.
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>>143520458

>continuing to be mad for no reason
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>>143520403
Uninstall and forget the game exists.
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>>143519849
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>>143520245
>>143518056
>>143518714

why are people still complaining about this?
it takes less than 10 minutes to change the damage on it in the CK and make your own patch if you care this much
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>>143520570 (You)
well memed, friend
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>>143519941
>>143520182
>>143520458

>shamelessly plugging your own mod
>freaking out over anonymous criticism
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>>143520458
Fuck off with you memelands mod cuck
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>>143520653
you know damn well exactly why motherfucker
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>>143517306
Yes, she goes on about something the doctor and his mainland buddies can't fix.
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>>143520114
>ywn marry her and make her last moments on Earth be the happiest moments of her life
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>>143520403
Well first you need to head to your kitchen, and grab a glass, biggest one you got, this is important, then you need to figure out where you keep your cleaning supplies, different people keep them in different places so I can't help you here, anyway, find the bleach, and fill the glass, right to the brim, take a deep breath, and down the entire thing, if you pussy out or choke start over, you have to down a full glass in one go or it doesn't work.
Anyway then I guess you should install the full dialogue mod or something.
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>>143520574
leave me alone
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any other way to reduce laugh lines aside from changing the Mouth-full type?
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>>143520520
>>143520668
Where am I mad/freaking out? All I said was do the textures yourself since you don't like them.

>>143520738
>>>/pol/
Get back in your hole.

What's with you retards jumping in to shitpost. Fuck it. This is just going to continue to no real end.
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http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/10057/?
Simon would be pround
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>>143520938
>>literally still mad
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>>143520851
looks cool but I can tell you it has at least one bug.

You might want to remove the weapon flashlight function for the time being, because I equipped it and while it worked fine, it permanently changed my main light to that gunlight, even when the gun wasn't equipped.

Even when the gun wasn't in my inventory.

I had to uninstall and thus lose the weapon to go back to being able to use the vanilla piplight. I figure next time I build one (and I probably will because that plasma flamer is way more fun to use than the vanilla one in-game) I'm not going to mod it to have a flashlight.
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>>143520851
Are you Neiro or Niero?

I have a plasrail grievance that needs to be addressed
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>>143520753

Pretty sure there's a lifetime movie that is basically this.

>Hey BF
>Yeh?
>I-i have leukemia, my treatments stopped working ;_;
>I'll stay ;_;
>They get married and 3 months later she dies
>He becomes a doctor bound and determined to end leukemia forever
>The end

>>143520751

Vault 81 cure should honestly be able to do it. Or make it an INT / medic check. Or mysterious Serum. I missed the check anyway so all she talks about are how the upgraded hull makes her feel safe and how I survived the Capn dance and Red Death.
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>>143521065
no I'm not the author I just saved that cause it was really cool and I hadnt seen it before

what is your problem though I havent tried the gun yet
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>>143521278
where's the part where they fight a giant crab monster
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>>143521278
>Pretty sure there's a lifetime movie that is basically this.
Pretty sure that's all lifetime movies m8.
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>>143516891
>Vault 81 mriacle cure
I'm pretty sure that was only for viruses
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>>143521336

Spoiler
Its actually really tiny, but its shiny eye has made curious captains crash their boats. They thought it was a large enough Mirelurk that it was destroying boats on its own
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>>143521336
And attack its weak point...for massive damage
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>>143521278
I don't understand why they don't just use high-precision lasers, when I was exposed to radioactive materials it solved my mutation issues in a flash.
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>>143521458
heheh hey guys,
LIFETIME-MOVIES
amirite?
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>>143521659
>People having fun talking about New Vegas
"REEEEEEEEEEEE NO ITS NOT FAIR OBSIDIAN ARE SHIT NEW VEGAS SUCKS STOP TALKING ABOUT VIDEO GAMES I DONT LIKE'
Why are Bethesdrones so bitter?
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>>143521659
So it's the same shit as what's posted here? Good to know.
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>>143521659
yes fog gets shitted up with that as well but at least we have waifus
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Post post apocalyptic knights so I can have inspiration for my scrap knight faction
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>>143521537
>altering subtitles to shitpost about the only decent boss fight Bethesda has ever made
Classy.
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>>143521537
Well, considering that there are other mirelurks around with glowing red eyes, it is understandable.
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>>143521659
>Decide to visit /vg/
>See a Fallout thread
>Open it

>"HURRR MUH FALLOUT 4"
>"BASED BETHESDA CAN LITERALLY DO NO WRONG"
>"OBSIDIAN IS SHIT AT EVERYTHING THEY DO I HATE THEM SO MUCH"
>"IMPLYING FALLOUT WAS EVER GOOD"
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>>143521929
>"Talking about video games I don't like is shitposting!"
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>>143521849

And Godzillas
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>>143521850
not your personal fuccboi finders etc. etc.
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>>143520403
get darker nights mod. It's pretty much the only mod I view as "required" myself.
>although I'm trying to get an immersive experience on survival difficulty as a gluttonous narcoleptic
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>>143522113
did you make this ????

it looks really good
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>>143521929
>Nothing but shitposting
Right
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>>143522268
>Literally this assblasted because people are talking about New Vegas instead of Fallout 4
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>>143521850
fuck you
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>>143519436
you shut your little slut mouth, you have no idea how long some of us have been waiting on this.
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>>143522376
>some of us
like 5 ?
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>>143522113
man that looks gr8
I want to climb it
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>>143521850

Get the armor up on the nexus before you go off making some weird big mod with it.

Can't stand when people show off an armor or weapon mod and then go "will be in my big dumb poorly voice acted faction based quest mod in like 2 years durr"
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>>143522310
The only thing Bethesda writing and story is good for is to laugh at how bad and inconsistent it is.
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>>143522270

Kos made the mesh
I think Niero (or Kos) made the textures, but I made the new normals and speculars
I rigged it for them

Its not even anywhere near complete, I think our texturer is going to go over the base texture that was made, and give it lots of cool details. I've also been told this will be in Maxwell's world, where you pilot Liberty Prime and fight him in it. Or something.
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>>143522376
it's dat boi! o shit waddup!
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>>143522463
Because Basedthesda are incapable of bad writing, right?
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>>143522536
i dont know who those people are

post more webms !!
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nth for dark tunnels and flashlights
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>>143522451
start counting, these are your last minutes
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>>143522724
sissy fag
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>>143522703
Of course they are you sapient cum rag
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>>143522897
Truly too based for this world.
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>>143522724

Most of my other webms are early WIP versions
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>>143522862
aka my fetish
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>>143522897
kek thank god i pirate that shit
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>>143522483
You mean like that goddamn thing they were working on for New Vegas that never got released?

I think Dragbody and a few other people like Nekronom were involved. Had a lot of cool looking outfits that seemed very reminiscent to Metro...

Willhaven or some shit? I'm still kind of put off by that. Way to tease everyone for nearly three fucking years three fucking years leading up to nothing, guys.
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>>143522897

Pete Hines is some next level asshole, he gives 0 shits
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>tfw no CZN-M22 or even P90
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Why.
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>>143523279
what psp game is this?
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>>143523036
I love you buffscale
you are a boon to this board
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>>143522483
>Can't stand when people show off an armor or weapon mod and then go "will be in my big dumb poorly voice acted faction based quest mod in like 2 years durr"
Fucking Bunsaki what the fuck. Said he was done 2 months ago but then "lol adding something minor" and hasn't posted since.
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>>143523021

Pete Hines is the VP of PR and Marketing not the VP of the whole company.

And he was talking about the new system of being able to move around and even walk away while people are talking to you, which was a system they started in Skyrim and improved in Fallout 4.
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>>143523469
>nobody even gets emotionally invested in cheese and milk.
some guy's fetish was fucking tilework, do not underestimate the depths of human depravity
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>>143523497
>improved in Fallout 4
One step forward and a dozen steps back.
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>>143523572

Not even arguing about that because I agree the 4 choice thing and voiced protag is bad, just saying that the picture is shit
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>>143523572
>shut the fuck up and fix me
This isn't modded/shopped is it? That line of dialog doesn't seem like something I would forget...
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>>143523321

boku no draw distance
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>>143523572
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Where are the femboys?
The face menu thing is better , people don't look awful and you can wear dresses now
No excuses really
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>>143523321
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>>143523772
Now add first week sales as a third row, you cherrypicking fuck.
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>>143523036
it looks weird when it runs
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>>143523859
>Sales as an indicator of anything
1/10
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ALL
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>>143523036

Your Godzilla thing puts me between a rock and a hard place.

I can't bring myself to use obviously lore unfriendly mods. I just can't do it. Don't like them. Modern weaponry, waifu stuff, direct ports, whatever.

BUT

I want this. It looks amazing.
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>>143523772
>that simplification of stats
This is why pen and paper/tabletop games like DnD will forever be superior to video games
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>>143523859
>sales are a measure of quality
>comparing sales of a video game in 1997 and 2015, when the industry is dozens of times bigger and the money poured into marketing probably millions of times biggers
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>>143523859
>Implying sales are a testament to how good a game is
Flawed logic, especially considering how much bigger the market is nowadays.
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>>143523876
It's because it's not meant to be that large, at proper setscale it moves just fine. In order to make it move correctly it has to be designed so that it's animations match the distance traveled.

Might work on evening it out by giving a higher speed mult.

Think of like how large behemoths how and how fast they can move and that's why it doesn't look retarded when they move even though they're large.
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>>143523964
>modern weaponry
>lore unfriendly
>My first fallout game is 3
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>>143523789
I added the makeup to the male looksmenu but they are misaligned and idk how to edit them to fix the placement

I'm hoping lots of people are trying stuff right now just not ready to share yet
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>>143524140
>modern weaponry
>lore friendly
>inconsistencies and anachronisms are ok when they're 2d
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>>143524018
Why do Bethesdrones keep parroting this? Interplay went bankrupt because Herve Caen took over as CEO and forced the company to produce a bunch of shitty shit-offs that nobody wanted, instead of finishing Fallout 3.
If not for that fat retarded grease-ball, they would have been fine.
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>>143524140
no anon is right
those ugly yet boring guns don't fit in at all you can use them if you want but hush
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>>143524305
In what was is "let's make some shit nobody wants" counter to my post? It's the very fucking essence of it.
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>>143524380
You make it sound like Interplay as a whole decided to do that, when instead the original CEO left and was taken over by some literal retard who drove it into the ground all by himself.
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>>143524153
Can you add beards to the female looks menu? I've been waiting on that for a long time. I want a curly moustachioed woman.
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>>143524456
Izzy pls go
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>>143524448
And you guys make it sound like Bethesda as a whole is dedicated to removing roleplaying from Fallout.

Protip: The devs are probably fucking bummed about it, but when the money man says "make it for the CoD kids" you either do what they say or get fired.
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>>143524456
that was actually the first thing I attemped lol

I can add them to companions and npcs through the CK
but I couldnt get them to show up in the looksmenu for the player because the interface script does a check for your gender isFemale before changing the T) option to facial hair, I've looked through the script but I still haven't managed it and I dunno if it's possible, it probably is but just over my head right now
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>>143524732
>The devs are probably fucking bummed about it
doubtful
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>>143524229
dude, FO4 is my first Fallout game but even I understand modern-styled weapons aren't exactly a bad thing.

The world ended in Fallout in the year 2077, but a lot of the guns we see look like they're from the 1940's or earlier.

There's been more than a century to develop ballistic weapons. But instead, the combat Rifle looks like a BAR from 1918, the shotgun... is basically a BAR with a larger barrel. The Assault Rifle looks like a modified Vickers Machine Gun, and the SMG is a motherfucking thompson.

(I'll say nothing nothing about bolt-actions, double barrels, and revolvers as those do not seem implied to be military issue weapons and often used by civilians rather.)

Still, the SMG, the Combat Rifle and Shotgun, and the Assault Rifle seem implied to be military issue weapons that were used up until a bit before the bombs dropped, but their designs predate even the diverging point of Fallout and there are countless weapons they could have drawn from, but instead most of the weapons actually seem to predate world war II
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Is the enemy variety in fallout 4 good?
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>>143524923
>"Bethesda" mentioned
>implying every single dev said this in unison and agrees with it
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>>143524946
>doesn't understand divergent timelines
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>>143524923
I still want Avellone to go on the record in an interview that doesn't need to get translated twice and say that they use Nukapedia for lore.

More likely they have an internal wiki for reference during development like every big developer nowdays, and either Avellone misinterpreted it or it was lost in translation.
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>>143525013
honestly, not really.

Bethesda relied too much on modular armor and weapon systems to give enemies a sense of faux variety. But what it boils down to is Raiders all blurring together into a humanoid mass of leather armor and scrap, interspersed with super mutants, deathclaws, and robots.
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>>143525013
Yes of course!

You get to fight:
>Raiders
>Raiders that look like robots
>Ghouls that are fast zombies
>Raiders that look like Super Mutants
>Robots
>Crab people
>Raiders in power armor
And much more (like raider dogs)!
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>>143524946
>FO4 is my first Fallout
the lore isn't based around your gunshit
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>>143525236
>humanoid mass of leather armor and scrap
don't forget the pipeguns mate
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>>143525236
And bloatflies and ghouls and radscorpions and radroaches and bloodbugs and yao gui and mirelurks and mirelurk queens and mirelurk kings and children of atom and other things probably
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so I have a lot of mods and I can't find the manual water pump in the settlement builder, is it disabled because of survival or is one of my mods causing this?
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>>143524229
1) Culture stopped at ~1950 era, and the microchip was not invented, technology didn't complete stagnate, otherwise we wouldn't have fucking Corvega and Zax computers

2) There plenty of modern weaponry in the first two games, a P90 existing does not in anyway harm the lore, especially when it existed in the original games

P90, Deagle, H&K G11, etc.

You have no ground to stand on other than "It wasn't in the bethesda sequel so it doesn't count anymore. Which is an absolutely shit argument because the basis for all the lore starts with the first two games.

>>143524317
>my first game was fallout 3
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>>143525142
He's right, you're wrong
If anything you don't understand what a divergent timeline means

They've gone through some of the cultural and technological shifts of the 60's-90's with the weapons and some armors to match.

EoTech sights ingame are from the late 90's
Look at recon and marine armor.
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>More likely they have an internal wiki for reference during development

Oh look at you, having hope.

if they had an internal wiki wouldn't that mean their lore would be more consistent and accurate cause random motherfuckers aren't altering.

Come on man, wisen up.
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>>143525293
>be using pipe rifle forever in current playthough
>see pic
>thought it was a pump action shotgun
>oh god please yes.jpg
>noticed that behind the tacticool shit it's just a combat shotgun (rifle?)
>hopes deleted
The next DLC better add a fucking pump action shot gun. There is no more satisfying gun mechanic than a well done pump action chamber.
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>>143525565
>Look at recon and marine armor.

Ah yes because either of those totally look like modern tacticool garbage.

You can whine about P90s in Fallout 2 all you want, that doesn't make it fit. It barely fit then, and it definitely doesn't fit now with the 1950s alt future scifi aesthetic Bethesda has established.
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>>143525553
oh no i played the first two and a when you reach the point where those guns start showing up that eyesore h&k shit looked out of place
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>>143524946
>FO4 is my first fallout

Sorry you came in at such a shit time in the series.
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>>143525742
>it definitely doesn't fit now with the 1950s alt future scifi aesthetic Bethesda has established.
This triggers the Obsidrones.
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>>143525452
some mod.
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>>143525013
If you want to hear mostly positive things about fo4, go to reddit

If you want to hear mostly negative things, stay here

If you want to have an accurate opinion going in, look at both and make your own decisions
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>>143525553
>1) Culture stopped at ~1950 era
Except it didn't. Culture still advanced as evidenced in FO3 and NV showing hippy culture and other shit while still having cultural mores of the 50's. Racial segregation seemingly ended and sexuality is more open.

>>143525742
Wetsuit is Late-70's early 80's Sci-Fi design and the Marine armor is 90's comic Liefield shit.
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>>143525742
it did fit then because the 50's aesthetic was a lot more subdued than in FO3/FO4. It was a detail of the world, not the only thing being plastered everywhere.
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>>143525293
and? the P-90 was in fallout 2, so modern style firearms aren't anything new to fallout

>b-b-but bethseda owns the IP now
call the cops I don't give a fuck

I bet fallout 3 was your first fallout
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>>143525789
Is there an update/remaster of FO1/2 that runs well on win7/8/10?
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>>143522483
Good point

I've only made about 5 armors so far
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>>143525979
>Interplay/Black Isle were too cowardly to commit
Thanks for proving even the predecessors of Obsidian were incompetent.
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>>143526007
Whenever someone cries about the weapons it's always because FO3 was their first.
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>>143526082
well I'm glad you don't actually want to have a discussion.
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>>143525293
unrelated, but what mods are you using here?
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>>143525867
>Racial segregation seemingly ended and sexuality is more open

that's not really relevant to the lore/setting, those decisions are more meant to reflect the values of modern society at the time since the game was made in the late 90s
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>>143526024

No remasters but the Steam and GOG versions have both been updated to work on modern machines. Not entirely without issue, but they're not hard to get going.
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>>143525789
Nah, it's okay, the truth is I'm still able to enjoy it. If only because Settlement building fills the voice left behind by City of Heroes base building.

Power armor's pretty cool too.
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>>143523195
All of those are completed and donated to the Frontier
Which is coming out in a few months valve time
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>>143526007
just because it was in the game doesn't mean it fit in with the theme at all
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>>143526183
>It's not relevant because I say so
Yeah, okay.

>>143526082
Commit to what? That background lore was just that and not le xD 50's foreground nonsense?
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Modern guns argument aside, WHY THE FUCK IS THE DELIVERER THE ONLY GOD DAMN HANDGUN THAT ISN'T A REVOLVER OR THAT SHITTY RECTANGLE GUN. IS IT TOO MUCH TO FUCKING ASK FOR SOMETHING IN THE SAME STYLE TO BE IN THE NORMAL LOOT DISTRIBUTION? JESUS FUCKING CHRIST YOU GUYS MADE THE GOD DAMN MODEL AND EVERYTHING! WHAT THE FUCK, YOU CAN HAVE A GORILLION RIFLE AMMO TYPES BUT YOU CAN'T FUCKING THROW 9MM IN THE GAME?
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>>143526318
>Muh theme
Roll my eyes any more and they'd fall out.
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>>143526082
>Interplay/Black Isle were too cowardly to commit
more like knows you can only go so ham on a style before it falls into it's own blandness, but it'll go over your head or you'll play another asspull.

a room painted all yellow isn't 'committing to a style' it's just lacking creativity.
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>>143525725
my nigga. i can't even find a mod for one. i think it's because there isn't an animation for it.
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>>143526318
God damn look at all those weapons that will never be in FO4. Even the pipe rifle looks better and more realistic than the garbage in FO4.
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>>143526783
Depending on how far they take it with this modding system, the pump animation could be a nightmare
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bawww how did buthesda decide my ugly guns didnt belong in fallout
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I know you lot like to argue just for the sake of it, but I don't understand why bringing up the extremely limited selection of "modern" guns in Fallout 2 justifies shitty tacticool mods like this which is what I was talking about in the first place.

Like, the aberration that is the P90 in Fallout 2 isn't really the same thing as the full on 21st century military weaponry and gear mods.
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>>143526979
kill yourself
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>>143526349
It is strange how now Bethesda Fallout has brought in the 14mm pistol or the .223 pistol. Even as some modification setting for the 10mm pistol.

Not to mention the .45 pistols (in a realworld case, the 1911 Colt)

I know I'd love one of these babies in FO.
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>>143526945
>red 9
>grease gun
>ugly
Fuck you buddy
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>>143526979
Everyone at VGU is obsessed with tacticool and star wars

I would post screenshots of their heresy but I'm at work atm
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>>143526979
aside from the kunai things I see that as a more detailed version of this
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>>143526979
Sure I can accept things to a point and I'd even argue against something like that but all those items there are present in the games. Just not on 1 outfit.
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>>143526945
hey, I need you to go drink some bleach and tell me us if you taste something, because I'm pretty fucking sure you have NO taste
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>>143524153
Is that Brink?
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>>143526124
Fallout 2 was my first one and I still think that the P90, Pancor etc. are dumb as fuck and make little to no sense.

>>143527058
But the Grease Gun IS ugly, in the best possible meaning of the word. It's a no-nonsense stamped metal Kraut-killer.
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>>143526979
i'm with you anon. it just feels/looks so out of place.
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>>143526979
>>143527046

no you dont understand its tactical because the tactical pockets are useful because in 1945 military issue chambered rails foregrip laser pointer modern war ninja flashlight
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>>143527297
>Fallout 2 was my first one and I still think that the P90, Pancor etc. are dumb as fuck and make little to no sense.

lol it's funny because I was going to add that you were going to lie about FO2 being your first and you feeling like they were out of place and didn't make sense but thought that was going too far with shitposting. Fuck me should've done it.
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>>143526979
>>143526318
>bringing up the extremely limited selection of "modern" guns in Fallout 2

Thing is, even if it's a limited selection, looking at some of the guns added into New Vegas, which include what looks like an M16 assault rifle, one of the hallmarks of "tacticool/modern", it seems implied these weren't just Obsidian/Black Isle not having any ideas for retro-future guns. It seems to imply that Fallout's universe is meant to have some points of familiarity to us on certain technical and mechanical levels.

As mods go... That's modders. They're going to make their own choices.

>>143527174
eh, looking between the two, I really don't see it.
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>>143527297
shut your mouth the pancor is amazing
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>>143527262
>>143527058
the ugly guns that stand out don't belong and got removed
some nice guns got removed as well but the ones that dont belong are obvious
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>>143527428
I was going to inb4 the entire text of your post but I didn't lol I know the future so your opinion is wrong XD

>>143527489
So amazing it never went into production.

Atheists 1 God 0
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>>143527489
(You)
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have the fuckin guns on the weapons workbench always been kinda see through?
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>>143527459
>it seems implied these weren't just Obsidian/Black Isle not having any ideas for retro-future guns.
because it's not all retrofuture as the FO3 babbies believe. It's a divergent timeline, not 50's retrofuture only.
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>>143527425
dude i dont know about you but when am thirstay i instantly die irl from a constant damage i receive in my spleen.....elipses..... an 1 time i take baby aspirin i almost die from overdose rael talk.
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>>143526945
You can't complain about other guns being ugly after the abominations we got in 4
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>>143527720

FO2 has a very distinct tone and weapon aesthetic that is not shared by FO1
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>>143527720
>It's a divergent timeline, not 50's retrofuture only.
Buy the IP and then you can contradict Bethesda on this.
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>>143527795
It doesn't even contradict what Bethesda is doing considering the late 90's eotech sights.
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http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/57356/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/54829/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/58824/?

GUYS IT'S TOTALLY LORE FRIENDLY BECAUSE THE WAR DIDN'T HAPPEN UNTIL THE 2070s AND THERE WAS A P90 IN FALLOUT 2 SO THAT MEANS ANY GUN IS TOTALLY LORE FRIENDLY NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY
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>>143527740

>drink 30 bottles of water
>you feel better, but are slightly parched
>mfe
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>>143527740
>take one aspirin
>all water inside me evaporates instantly
>take two
>turn into dust
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>>143525504
Why is it that any time something says anything critical or negative about Fallout 4, /fog/'s first and only response is always just jump onto shitting on New Vegas in it's defense?
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>>143527861
>a 1950s view of the future with laser and plasma guns is ok but if you put holographic sights on weapons that shit is lore breaking
Jesus you guys are salty.
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>>143527902
>>143527993
Well to be fair you dod do a do a shit shitting load of rubbing in i meam rubning i mean rubning i mean running in this game to be quite honest family man
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>>143528005
Because retards seek familiarity.
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>>143528025
>It fits for me but not for thee
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>>143527867
it's hard for real guns to not be lore friendly in any situation.

It only becomes not lore friendly if you decide to mod in a fucking dwemer steam gatling gun or the fucking Master Sword.
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>>143528005

Because by and large the people who shit on Fallout 4 are Obsidian fans who hate Bethesda and say the games are shit but play them for hundreds of hours anyway.
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>>143528127
>Because by and large the people who shit on Fallout 4 are Fallout fans
Fixed.
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>>143528105
>it's hard for real guns to not be lore friendly in any situation.
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>>143527867
You know what isn't realistic
10mm handguns that were never adopted by police when 9mm exist but guess what isn't in FO4
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Will Nuka World have cybernetics?
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>>143527743
>abominations
>???
>assault rifle
>shotgun and combat rifle are the same
everything else is probably /k/tier autism I don't care about
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>>143528105
>dwemer steam gatling gun
>implying fallout isn't just the prequel to the elder scrolls series
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>>143528336
Except the shit-posting is always from Bethesdrones who sperge out if anyone disagrees with them.
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>>143527867
>>143527795
why the hell not? I'm using modern firearms right now, it's actually made shit fun again by giving enemies powerful weapons, I died for the first time in 30 hours of play to a gunner commander with a souped up HK416. With more spawns and the powerful guns of modern firearms it's getting pretty DOOM.

but no

>no one is allowed to mod their game to reflect their choice of weaponry they'd like to use in a SINGLEPLAYER game, because fuck that no one can revoke Todd the Glorious Howard's artistic license on the game's art direction and your mods are polluting that vision.

jesus h fucking christ, don't you have some dick to be sucking at bethseda right now? you just went FULL fanboy.
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>>143528292
Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnno.
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>>143528307
Well you just listed half the conventional firearms in the game
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>>143528426

DELETE THIS

megumin is for pure explosions not lewd
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>>143528426

You should try reading the whole thing to see where it started instead of jumping in at the end with assumptions locked and loaded.
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When are references a good thing and when are they a bad thing?
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>>143528426
>made shit fun again by giving enemies powerful weapons
you could probably achieve a similar effect by wearing worse quality armor
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>>143528563
God when Bethesda does it, bad when anyone else does it, especially the evil Obsidian.
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>>143528361
>>143528105
>yfw this still fits in fallout more than all the ugly black cod guns combined

>>143528474
yeah but I use them all and still don't give a shit :^)
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>>143528629
honestly that one up against the wall might as well be a non-pipeshit syringer.
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>>143528629
RePainted Nerf guns?

Rad as fuck.

>tfw too poorfag to buy a nerf gun
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>>143528418
You realize you're the stoner in this situation, right?
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>>143528628
He's a man of many colours, and doesn't see race.
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>>143528563
They're bad when overused I guess, but I've never seen a movie or played a game where that was a problem. The only kind of reference that really annoys me is when they refer to things from their own series. Using the G.O.A.T questions, for example. That one was especially bad because it was just an easy excuse to recycle something instead of being creative.
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>>143528569
I'm wearing radstag clothes, I'm just too quick and accurate a shot for them to even start a fight - I now understand how women feel about 2 pump chumps.
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>>143528234
bethesda works on what they think is rule of cool.

pic related was certainly not made in the 50's, but it showed up in FO4 anyway through Kellogg's pistol.

If Bethesda really cared about some sort of thematic canon on the weapon designs, they wouldn't have allowed Obsidian to add the m14-lookalike weapon.

They prefer to design their own weapons, but it's an artistic choice rather than some rule they have.
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>>143528819

Download war of the commonwealth fampai
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>>143528426

>"I'm not a fan of modern gun mods"
>"haha lmao fallout 3 babby's first fallout they fit fucking perfectly because fallout 2"
>"not really"
>"no they fucking DO you fucking casual bethesdrone faggot fuck I'll use every single modern gun mod I fucking want and it all totally fits fucking perfectly"
>"good 4 u"
>"UGH WHAT AM I NOT ALLOWED TO MOD IT HOW I WANT FUCK YOU UGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"
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>>143528809
>Using the G.O.A.T questions, for example. That one was especially bad because it was just an easy excuse to recycle something instead of being creative.

I actually thought that was great, being a giant red flag that says "Hey maybe testing for synths using an aptitude quiz isn't the best idea."
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>>143528891
epic for the win
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