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Been a while since we had one of these. Dead game and all. 2.1/1.6 is out. Is it worth playing yet?
>>143485568
Not really.
>>143485568
Only if you're some kind of faggot that likes fun, but we chased all them kinds of people long ago.
I really want to like this patch, anyone played it yet?
>Bookmarks for stars
>Faces for mission npcs and engies
>Mission revamp
>New huge and large guns, C4 multis!
>Tougher AI that forum dads are already crying is too hard
>anything else?
>>143495053
> this patch
Exactly. It's a great patch, lots of qol improvements and other neat things.
But as an expastion it's pretty mediocre.
The titular feature is meh.
>DUDE ENCHANTERS LMAO
>even more grindy timesinks and RNG
>>143497043
What's frustrating is they've stated that RNG is a core mechanic that they feel is working as intended and don't plan to change.
>>143497631
That's not surprising when the lead designer is a literal retard.
Damn, finding Barnacles iz hurd.
>>143497761
I'm about to check out one of the engineers. See if any of this is worth it. The small quality of life things are neat though. With Stations looking smokey inside and the new station docking radio messages.
>>143495053
As much as I appreciate some of the QoL improvements in this patch, I mean seriously... This is the 'huge' first Horizons content update.
>Bookmarks for stars
Should have been in the game from the very beginning.
>Faces for mission npcs and engies
Neat, I guess. A bit of immersion.
>Mission revamp
How many missions are still broken as fuck? Half of the Horizons missions have been uncompletable for the last 6 months.
>New huge and large guns, C4 multis!
Who the fuck cares. Bigger numbers. Yay.
>Tougher AI that forum dads are already crying is too hard
Gonna have to check that out. As long as ships aren't spinning around and slowly flying forward anymore it's already an improvement.
>anything else?
Nah.
Seriously, it's barely enough of a reason for me to boot up the game for the first time since December.
I'm already looking forward to how they'll be trying to sell us the next Season of 'content' come next December. The Horizons delay won't be delaying their money grab attempts, you'll see.
>>143498196
At least the UI is way better. But yeah I just got in and there aren't any missions offering more than 110,000 creds so the grind is even worse than ever and everything feels dead.
>>143497761
I hate their lead designer too bro. He's just buttmad that everyone hates powerplay.
>>143498196
I'm gonna check it out at least. At least they can put quality things together like the traffic control still.
>>143498092
If you haven't played in the beta you should also notice the rework of terrain shading/textures/rocks. Roll around in a buggy a little, it's pretty good.
>>143498621
I'm about to get to the actually. Haven't played in the beta and flew to an engineer just to find out that I don't have a landing nav thing. Whoops.
>>143498563
>He's just buttmad that everyone hates powerplay.
Powerplay could be so fucking amazing if they just even tried to make it fun. Stop the fucking grind gameplay, give us some fun objective. Allied to a faction? Guess what, the entire space of another faction is going to hate you. No landing permission for you, have a couple of system security Anacondas.
Fuck ferrying 10 goods from A to B, go to B and kill 10 System Security ships. Kill another ship inside of a spaceport.
>>143498439
It's a little bit better once you max the faction rep.
>>143499082
Imagine being given fabricated transponder codes to fool a stations security and let you dock for some black market trading. You have a time limit before they are onto you and initiate a system-wide manhunt for you. That'd be some cool shit.
>>143499323
Yeah. Seriously, it feels as if they didn't even try. 'Let's give them something to grind so they don't notice how we dropped Wings like a hot potato.'
>>143499258
Yo famarino! Want some more grind ontop of your grinding? Awesome! Here you go! Trading is sadly still the best way to make cash. It's just so fucking boring. I'm in an anaconda thanks to that robigo exploit from way back when except I am a 100 million shy of decent outfitting so I just stopped playing.
>>143499323
Or imagine security capships blockading a station.
I mean fucking Rebel Galaxy has this.
The station models in the game even have mailslot doors already.
>>143499509
I was really excited for the exploration shit despite it just being moons. But then it's just fucking nothing but more grind for a chance to find the right shit for a maybe minor boost that'd last an hour. Fuck this shit.
>>143499752
Everything just feels so halfbaked like the art and design team went to town and the lead designers didn't communicate at all.
>>143499752
It's actually funny, you could be the most hated and despised man in the universe, that has everyone as their sworn enemy, and you could perfectly travel all across inhabited space and dock wherever the fuck you want without any issues.
>>143499914
>But then it's just fucking nothing but more grind for a chance to find the right shit for a maybe minor boost that'd last an hour. Fuck this shit.
Yep, and people in beta were so fucking proud of their Anacondas with 50 LY of jumprange while I was just shaking my head. The most fucking boring and incremental change ever.
How about they allow us to actually tailor ships towards a specific purpose? An Adder with every bit of cash and power dedicated towards the Jump Drive, wala, 250 LY jumps.
How fucking awesome would that be? Zipping across space with maybe 1T of cargo, trying to make a profit due to the distance? Getting to (salvageable) wrecks as the first person?
Just landed. Look at that dark abyss.
>>143500260
Looks like quality content.
>>143500186
Or imagine some gundam tier weapon systems where you can load down your Anaconda with hundreds of missile silos and just fire a fucking wall of smoke?
There's just a lack of fun and originality. Different ship skins are bundled into fucking color packs just to upcharge the price. There's no real way to set yourself apart from anyone else and it really dashes all hopes I had for this game. How's Star Citizen looking in comparison?
Everytime I open the map it resets to economical routing. Anyone else?
>>143500260
Oh look. More fucking grinding just to get to the RNG bullshit.
>>143500602
NO PLACE FOR FUN HERE
THE ORIGINAL ELITE
WASN'T FUN EITHER
Haiku just for you baby. Next up: How forum dads are ruining all of the potential this game ever had.
Oh look I have to travel 400 LY just to have a chance of finding meta-alloys just so I can fucking try my hand at more RNG bullshit. Yeah no fuck this.
Btw goys, are you ready for some new paid cosmetics?
How about fitting a sikk jdm spoiler to your Adder?
Only 6 shekels per item, available tomorrow!
>>143502953
>Not just forum dads
>Furry forum dads
I want to smash their faces into the fucking pavement.
>>143499752
>You will never pop in at a station to find an Interdictor parked infront of the mail slot warning everyone away or else
>You will never find an outpost surrounded by a pirate minefield and one asshole pirate mine layer holding the whole place hostage for money or cargo
>You will never stumble onto a pirate fleet and capital ship in the middle of launching a sneak attack
>You will never get flagged down by militia or miners or traders needing help defending themselves against pirates/privateers/zealots
are meta alloys random or does the barnacle site has predetermined loot?
>>143505868
I thought they were only found with barnacles.
Guys the mission board is missing at robigo mines
>>143504798
>You will never try any of those things with a friend then get stuck in an empty instance anyway
In all seriousness I've missed this general so much, about the only thing that was keeping the game playable for a long time. Have some forumdad shit for your troubles.
>>143507548
i'm at a barnacle right now and all they are dropping
>cobalt
>uraninite(?)
>iron
>>143507673
It got UA bombed.
>>143505868
according to the steam discussions, meta alloys are broken right now.
hardly anyone is getting them from the barnicles.
>>143507906
Hmmmmm
some guy on the forums was grabbing hundreds of these for "safekeeping"
Also the servers are kinda bonkers right now I think I might have to end up waiting until tomorrow to get anything.
How's large and huge multicannon?
>>143511680
Are all of the huge weapons even in the game yet?
>>143512132
I think yes
So where can I buy a huge pulse laser.
We really need another exploit to get things going. This game sucks playing fairly.
>>143519418
>>143519252
>>143519070
>>143518896
This is some shitty art.
is this game a meme? is it worth playing? I got it as a gift on steam and played like 2 hours
>>143521313
It's fun for the first 10-20 hours. Then the grind sets in and you slowly start to realize there's no content once you have a couple million and the next thing you know you're grinding for hours or dropping it hard.
>>143521313
If robigo still worked you could become a billionaire overnight.
>>143524439
You'll just have to try some other place, like Obsidian or Fehu
>>143519635
Yeah are these from deviant art?
>>143525139
The forumdads paid a forum artist to make these at like $15 a pop.
>>143525997
The spaceships look decent in terms of concept art but the humans look awful.
>>143498439
find a good system and then get cozy with the local factions, eventually you'll start seeing missions that are at least 1 mill minimum.
Yes, goddamnit. A new EDG. And I'm not the one who made it!
Some of the new missions can be funwhen they work. A lot of them can also pay out pretty good too, missions worth 1-1.5 mill are pretty common to find.
Also, Robigo might be dead but places like Fehu and Maia still give long range smuggling missions worth multi millions.
>>143511680
i can't even find anywhere that sells huge multis
Large Multis are fucking beat though
>>143524439
So, Robigo LRS is officially kill?
top kek
Why is /edg/ always full of retarded yuros?
>>143533432
Because it's office horus in yurop.
Go to bed, amerifag.
Has anyone else tried getting Meta-Alloys from the Barnacles?
Every one I've found is broken.
I know the dads are complaining about the increased AI difficulty, and /edg/elords are complaining because it's more a patch than an EXPANSION!!!!111, but the 2.1 update is actually pretty fucking solid!
Elite is Dangerous again, and a lot of necessary things have been added.
Not bad, brabo. Not bad.
So, is there ANY reason to take a C3 or C4 multicannons, at all? Or are large thermal weapons still betrter?
>>143535114
>$0.59 has been deposited into your account
>>143535439
C3 MCs on the top of a conda seem to track really well when gimballed, and that coupled with the minimal distributor hit from a C4 pulse actually gives you a very cheap RES setup for it.
>>143503093
I would try to hunt these guys down, but they probably don't play open.
>>143535974
Now that you mention it, the C3 and C4 multicannons will be far less taxing for your power than the corresponding thermal weapons. Hmm, that gives me some ideas. Perhaps I can run some beams on my conda now, backed up my armour shredding MCs
>>143535439
I put the huge and large gimballed MCs on my conda, seems to work well.
>>143536552
Also, you can get the MCs at LHS 20. Its got the LYR discount too.
So, one of the highlighs on the update was that gaining faction rank has become easy. About time.
>>143537405
>he believes they got rid of the grind
>>143537718
I WANT TO BELIEVE
>>143535114
But is it any good yet?
>>143539018
It's not good, it;s better.
So, are ships with 250LY jump a thing for real?
>tfw weapon mod is locked behind horizon
>>143485568
/edg/ is like fucking necrons
peeking from the tomb from time to time if anything changed
then go back to sleep after realizing nothing has changed
>>143504310
noice
1-3 keep fdl
4-6 get python
7-9 grind more until I can afford anaconda
0 stop playing
>>143537957
yeah it is much easier
now you donate 120k and above good goy
you have the shekels from your previous grinds right?
surely this wont hurt your balance
>>143543709
I've bled Robigo until it was dry.
I've got enough shekels to be free.
If that's the thing, I'll be doing that.
>>143543946
you dare to challenge me?
for my name is Braben, forumdad of forumdads:
Look upon on my VISION, ye Mighty, and despair!
>>143544749
FREEEEEEEEEE
>>143545294
NOOOOOOOOOOO
I AM IN CHARGE HERE
Hello
>>143546051
>dead pale pink lipstick on all female npcs
why?
>>143546189
Because in the grim darkness of the far future, there is only pink lipgloss.
Bye thread.
>>143547798
oi none of that, we're fine
FINE
>>143548023
I guess this is goodbye for reals
/edg/ aint coming back in its old glory ever again
braben protects
>>143547001
IN THE GRIM DARKNESS OF FAR FUTURE EVERYONE LOOKS LIKE A METH ADDICT
>>143550346
It's all that low gravity and shit.
>>143550163
Aye, these threads used to last a while. But nowadays I guess it's only dads playing the game. And they flock to Ftroop forums and plebbit.
Good night sweet prince.
>>143550163
>>143550767
I was a fool to think we could have this paradise back.Had a webm to post here but /vg/ is shit and doesn't allow audio
>>143551315post it on volaHF33Go
r-rip ;_;7
>>143552114
R-Right on CMDR
>>143531018
>>143524578
Can I just accept slaves and then sell them over and over instead of actually doing the missions?
pity bump
>>143507718
the known barnacles have run out of alloys. Supposedly there's a new site somewhere that has it.
Any nice new exploits? I'm sure they fucked up something with 1.6 / 2.1.
What an excellent update, can't land on any planet. always gets stuck on "exiting orbital cruise".
Loving this scam 2bh
>all the forumtards getting butthurt that their fag-de-lances are melting now
I love it. Suck it you griefing fucks.
>>143552114
Why is this general so damn slow or dead all the time?
Is Elite just that boring to most people? Is it because there's a huge amount of places to discuss the game already?
>>143557365
I concur. The dadly tears shed by the AI being "t-too hard.."
>>143557661
It used to be good.
What's there to discuss?
>>143558265
Not even the new update adds any real worthwhile content. I'm just hoping for a new exploit to crop up so I can get a corvette and fuck with Forumdads.
>>143553359
You can but you'll actually pull less money, and have a massive amount of risk in that you have to buy the slaves in the first place (getting shot down loses you loads in that case).
>>143560427
That's more risk than the fail on-scan missions?
>>143507906
>release engineers
>engineer wants 1t of meta alloys to befriend you
>meta-alloys are broken
>different engineer wants soontil-ma-gog
>producing faction is at war, so no soontil-ma-gog
lol
>RNG
>more grind
How can one studio be so terrible?
>>143543303
This
Do I go back to a Cobra so I can land at medium landing pads or do I stick with my anaconda? I don't have enough dosh to outfit the Conda for combat too well yet.
>>143560770
Zero overhead of credits, just a bit of time wasted. Better to take the missions and practice some evasive supercruise flying.
>>143563535
If you want to take a medium ship you're better off grabbing a DBS/DBX or an AspE/S. Cobra is pretty meh.
>>143564347
>>143563535
Well shit I meant a Python but I take it ASPs are still better for making dosh?
>>143564442
If Robigo still worked (don't know how good Fehu etc are) then yeah Asp is the best ship for money making, but if you have enough for a decently outfitted Python (around 100 million) then you can multitask extremely well.
>>143564671
I have roughly 180million creds so maybe I'll do that. Time to go find a place with a discounted Python I guess.
>>143543303
underrated post t b h
and fukken ded
If you had one shot at fixing this game, what would it be?
Are there even any new ships in the game? I quit before Horizons came out and I was flying a Python so there wasn't even reason to grind autistically for a new ship really
>>143568265
You need a drum mag to fix this game.
>>143568478
Corvette and Cutter.
>>143568914
Alright power play needs fixing first, let's get rid of Facebook timers.
Next?
>>143564782
I use eddb.io, great utility. Just set the filters to Python and chinese discount man and you'll get something easy.
>exotic female traffic controller
MUH DICK
>>143569187
>Alright power play needs fixing first, let's get rid of Facebook timers.
Congratulations, you just made hauling powers unstoppable, enjoy every system in the game being exploited or contested by Mahon.
>>143564671
Fehu is just fine
http://i.imgur.com/heusX8x.jpg
>>143571010
Shame they upp'd the quantities. Can't take too many missions with you.
Are small ships faster and more agile now?
>>143572297
You can make them faster, yes
>>143570879
Increase combat rewards to balance, and adjust the fortify progress bars etc.
Result is less grind, more credits per hour, less effort to participate, more reward than not participating. Fun.
ripperoni in pastrami
Ded general or what. Has anyone actually used an Engineer yet? Are they even worth it?
>>143543303
UNDERRATED
>>143581018
I'd say it just reached 1.1. It's not THAT good, but fixed lots of things.
>booted out due to transaction server error 5 times on way back from Maia
>spend 5 minutes stuck in transition to glide from orbital cruise
>attacked by ebin SDC ganker at engineer base
>transaction server error before I can high wake
>log back in
>YOU COMBAT LOGGED
>let him kill me so I don't get KoS by half of open for combat logging
>hull health doesn't deplete at all while he's shooting
>suddenly explode
great fucking servers Fdev and great fucking mechanics that make any crash or DC in pvp make you KoS for half the playerbase.
Are the pirate hunting missions gone in this patch?
>new update
>decide to check out community goal
>in vulture
>see lonely wanted dropship
>attack
>spams me with missiles
>2hits my shields
>get vaporized
I don't like this what happened to my invincible shitbox?
>>143592718
They made it so the AI isn't retarded, anything above Expert will now fly like a fairly skilled player and anything Dangerous+ will have engineer weapons.
>>143592931
I still feel like the Vulture's shields just got useless, they used to be powerful.
>>143594269
They added new weapons for bigger hardpoints and some of the engineer mods will rip through shields. You also actually get hit by enemy weapons in 1vs1s now.
https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/574851e09657ba85162ffca2
>break game
>fuck it, just sell the things
>>143595364
Should've done that from the start tbqh, the barnacle mechanics are bad
>>143592718
>fight python in dbs
>it outturns my a fit dbs
>spams chaff with a split second cooldown
OMG PRAISE SARAH THE MASTER OF MINIONS AMIRITE XD
Procedural generation was a mistake
>>143597293one of the secret engineers is trans btw
>>143597450
Which secret engineer?
do we have a list of all known engineers and how to access them yet?
>soontil relics are over 300ly from the engineer that needs them
for what purpose
The reason everyone sits in solo play instead of going into open is because no one wants to deal with their ships being blown by some dick ass faggot head who sits around ganking people for no real reason, ESPECIALLY when such ships require hours of grinding just to get the rebuy cost.
On another note, I hate the new AI, for one reason: It completely fucks new players. If you are a veteran with billions of credits who can throw ships away then you like the new AI, but if you're a newbie who can't A rank a ship, or can't even buy a good combat ship like the vulture, you are essentially instantly fucked and killed with no chance of winning a fight, even against low ranked NPCs. Oh and they all come with engineer upgrades which I think should be restricted to players only.
On another note, why is it hell to find popular builds for ships? The coriolis.io or whatever it is has the builds button grayed out and I don't know why, and there is no repository of ship builds anywhere.
>>143597293
I know someone that looks like that.
>>143597890
The AI is fine, new players won't get hard ships spawned against them and Elite ships actually being a challenge is a good thing.
ebin gankers on the other hand are the cancer killing open, I don't mind pirates or powerplayers who at least give you a chance to surrender and some form of explanation but people who just park in CG's or Engineer bases in tricked out Cutters and kill people for no reason are cancer, its not even fun as most people who do CG's and stick around in busy areas know how to combat log and those who don't will either high wake out or be someone who will just sit there, panic and not put up a fight. Its reached a point where I only play in open for Powerplay undermining as otherwise gankers are just a nuisance that present no threat but still slow me down
>>143598404
Its honestly hard to tell if its intentional as I think they forgot to make genders affect NPC faces.
>>143598510
Don't worry anon, the cries of the forumdads will nerf the ai a few steps backwards.
>>143598510
>crying about gankers in the thread that repeatedly set up group ganks and started the SIRA and The Crusade.
>>143529008
what's the fucking point of having all these billions of systems if the game wants you to just camp in one or two of them
I thought elite was about roaming free in a vast universe looking for limitless opportunities
>>143598698
At least this threads gankers don't cry on reddit and the forums when people highwake out for not playing fair and throttling down and waiting for death.
>>143597293
gabe newell as a depeche mode band member?
sorry /edg/
Oh wow, there's a traffic controller now. About fucking time.
>tfw the orbit line doesnt show up around a brown dwarf when you jump in
Amazing, really.
>>143601982
How the fuck did you get that message box to open? Sometimes I hear 'incoming message' but nothing shows up and I notice a little red exclamation mark in that part of the HUD but I can't seem to open that section of it with any button.
>>143598906
>I thought elite was about roaming free in a vast universe looking for limitless opportunities
Do you know where you are right now?
>>143603091
press 2 then use Q and E to go to messages
but sometimes I hear a message and there isnt one there, too
>>143603627
>I have to actually use the dumb UI focus thing
Wow thats stupid. Q and E automatically work on all the other screens when I simply look at them, why the fuck should I have to use the focus thing to get it to work on the messages? Whatever. Thanks for telling me.
>>143543303
>>143547001
>>143550346
I am enjoying these warhammer references. We really are necrons.
>see a player FDL
>target him
>"Aisling Duval"
Every fucking time.
>>143609540
Why is that, do you think?What the fuck am I even supposed to fly with ~4 million
>>143609853
>Why is that, do you think?
Because the FDL attracts faggots, hard.Adder
>>143610271
>Adder
>Useful for anything
Anon, pls
>>143609853
I flew an Adder until I could outfit a Viper, and flew that until I could outfit a Vulture.
>>143610368
Fuck you anon. I got on my feet in an Adder. Did so many 700k smuggling missions with it and didnt even know Robigo existed.
>>143610446
Do you mean a viper mk 4 or mk 3, because the new AI changes makes mk 4 unviable for any sort of combat.
>>143610625
>700k smuggling missions
pretty sure those dont exist anymore
>>143610789
Well, they do but they require 80+ cargo unless you go to Robigo or something.
>>143610991
Robigo is kill, newest patch destroyed it
>>143610654
Whichever one is the original, this was over a year ago.
Shit Niggas. What do? I can't even sell that one Foil card I have because I don't own a damn smartphone so the market makes me wait 15 days.
>>143498196
>As long as ships aren't spinning around and slowly flying forward anymore it's already an improvement.
Preach it brother.
Is it finally time for me to put away my
>ASP
or is long-range smuggling still the only decent earner in the game?
>>143613571
>break his thrusters
>surprised when he cant move
the AI was never hard before this patch but come on.
>>143613959
His thrusters weren't broken, he was doing that from the moment I opened fire on him, even with his shields still up. It was a well known bug anon. AI would spiral constantly until you broke fire.
>>143611051
Try Fehu, Quince, or Maia.
>>143613902
long range smuggling is kill, at least robigo run is.
there is basically no quick money maker anymore.
also having 6 500-ish lightyear treks I have to make (one to maia to get meta alloys, one back, one to get soontill relics, another to get back, then two to deliver to both engineers) is really fuckin bullshit.
>>143613959
I feel like the AI could be quite difficult before actually. one on one fights are usually a cake but sometimes you get groups of enemies that are just quite strong and take you shield out in no time. And of course in the battle sites sometimes every enemy just decides to gang up on you, which kinda sucked.
And then there were just some enemies that took ages to take down. Regenerating shields at a rapid pace and Just constantly turn fighting so that it was hard to actually get some damage in while their shields were down.
>inb4 git gud
I'm not saying every enemy was challenging, I had more then my fair share of fish in a barrel, But sometimes I also had close calls.
What's the current meme ship?
>>143615946
It will always be the
>ASP
>>143614562
>no quick money
Honestly that's the reason I quit their fucking game. I'm not even mad about the amount of no content in the game. (there is no real story line, no real objective, no real reason to do anything besides the eternal grind) It was the "Oh you gotta play E:D as your job in order to get an Endgame ship with top outfitting". Even when they released the fucking powerplay patch (which was also nothing more than coloured star map and the same quests we've always done now for a "faction"). You could grind their certs by killing which takes a RIDICULOUS amount of time because the game doesn't give a fuck if you kill the smallest trader there is or an anaconda you get 1 cert either way.
Or you do tradan which becomes soul crushing after about an hour, and even got worse because they removed the ability to use third party information for good prices and therefore good routes. Why? For the sole purpose of "people are making money". Fuck, when trading was the only way to make money and people complained guess what happened? A SANE company would have said "Oh, 95% of the wealthiest players are doing trade runs, maybe we should boost Bounty hunting, exploring and missing running to be more competetive with that" What did these fags do? "LEL LETS NERF TRADING AND WATCH EM SQUIRM" It's a fucking video game. Why do I need to play every day for 4 months to be able to afford one of the big ass ships? and then all the forumdads go:
>but you can just fly [trash tier budget ship]! There is no need to own an anaconda!
The point is, that in a video game that features a single player option, I should be able to upgrade my ship more frequently than my fucking car in real life.
If they made it so that I can make enough money in an evening to throw fully fitted anacondas into black holes then fuck yeah I'll re-install and buy the damn season pass.
But it seems to me they've gone the other way.
>Release new content
>lock all of it away behind a grind wall
>>143617563
I've made this a while ago (before they added the new ships) And it's basically what's pissing me off so much. Because while this is how the cost increase of ships looks like,(goes up strong after the courier and then absolute pants after the clipper) the increase in money earned stays steady pretty much all the way trough.
Please remember that there are a bunch of ships between the ones named here that are represented in the graph but not named because it ended up crowding the graph too much)
>>143617563
They're terrified that people will realize there's nothing to do once you have a top-tier ship, but not terrified enough to actually make something to do end-game. So, instead, they make it harder to reach the end-game point.
>tfw they introduced the Cutter and Corvette with super fucking arbitrary faction grind requirements.
Guess the 400 mil I have lying around doesn't mean anything at all. It's not like any of the larger ships will give you more profit than an ASP anyway.
I really fucking wish progession wasn't just "le bigger ship" too. Give me some small ships that cost 50mil+ and some huge ship for under that much. Anything for some fucking variety.
>>143618121
Yeah. But most importantly: GIVE ME ADEQUATE FUCKING REWARDS FOR MY FUCKING TIME YOU MONGRELS.
There is nothing worse than a game not respecting your time. I know it's supposed to have a "simulation" feel to it, But fucking hell, Pretty much every other simulation game cuts down on the super fucking boring bits.
>Euro Truck simulator makes the routes shorter than real life so that you don't literally drive straight for 6 hours but instead get navigate and deliver more
>KSP gives you time acceleration so that you don't have to wait 6 days to get to where you want to be
>racing sims let you focus on fine tuning and actual racing and don't make you sit there waiting 3 hours for the race to finish if you crash
>theme park sims don't make you wait real time construction time or close at night
>Elite Dangerous has NO PROBLEM giving you 10k credit missions when you're saving up for a ship that costs nearly 600MILLION credits.
Seriously what the fuck? And you can tell me how it's not the "best ship" till you're blue in the face. SHIT SHOULD BE OBTAINABLE WITHIN AN AMOUNT OF EFFORT THAT IS REASONABLE FOR A FUCKING VIDEO GAME.
>>143619087
I fucking loved sim theme park as a kid.
>new enemies spam Chaff EVERY. TEN. SECONDS.
Why not just fucking remove gimbaled weapons? That's less "more challenging" enemies and more "super fucking annoying" enemies.
>>143619643
>tfw been using fixed beams for ages
>finally rewarded for my effort
But what makes Elite so compelling isn’t so much about the game as the experience. It’s the tinkering with and the taking out of a performance car for a Sunday drive, not to rack up more miles, nor to break any speed limits, but to just feel the growl of the engine and the wind comb through what’s left of your hair. To remember those carefree days arched over a BBC Micro or blinking angrily into a Lenslok and to forget for a short while that you have to make 357 people redundant in the morning. Elite is a hermetically-sealed escape capsule and it’s the best there is. Hell, you could fire the game up and just sit there on a launch pad and the sounds are enough to carry you away, so strong is your ship’s presence and so absorbing are the station surroundings.
Taking off, tearing through the station entrance a little too fast and just missing a Python, angling for the next jump, scooping fuel from a blazing sun, spinning the camera around your ship to catch its best profile, starting a fight just for the hell of it, seeing smok rise from the command console, hearing the screen crack and precious oxygen escaping into space and landing back at base with seconds to spare – these are the moments that make Elite essential. Trading, missions, mining – not so much. But it’s ok, we’re not going anywhere.
>>143620458
On certain ships I like fixed weapons as well. But there are some setups where you just need to add a gimbaled weapon. I don't mind enemies using chaf.. But every 10 seconds like clockwork? The fuck? Who programs that?
>>143619643
>not using fire groups and having fixed weapons as a backup
>not having missiles
>>143620572
>tips mortgage
you accidentally posted an anime gril instead of a pic of your child/pet on your HOTAS
>>143620651
I am using firing groups. The point is that I can literally make a timer hotkey to start a countdown on screen somewhere that counts down to the next chaf use and will stay accurate from there on in for the whole time.
>>143620572
>those are the things that make the game worthwhile.
I kinda agree with him that the actual gameplay is the best bit. so WHY IN THE NAME OF FUCK ARE YOU FORCING US INTO BORING ASS UNREWARDING FUCKFESTS OF MEDIOCRITY TO BUY FUCKING SHIPS THAT ALLOW US TO HAVE THOSE EXPERIENCES.
platinum. fucking. mad. I want to love this game so much but the grind is in all the wrong fucking places.
>>143597062
>Has more than one chaff launcher
>Waaaah
Maybe get gud and use fixed?
>>143621815
>some ships have retarded hardpoints that don't really allow for fixed weapons to be used efficently
>LUL JUST GIT GUD
Fuck off m8. NPCs using chaff regularly is fine. NPCs using Chaff literally on a 10 second cooldown is nothing short of fucking retarded.
>>143617563
>they removed the ability to use third party information for good prices and therefore good routes
I don't believe you. I haven't played the game since December and I was planning on popping in to see whats new, but I actually think you're giving me the ol' razzle dazzle. There's no way Ftroop would be so brain damaged as to remove being able to find decent trade routes online.
>>143624086
They forbid people to use third party programs that automatically scan docked ports for prices and upload them.
The only way the trader tools work right now is by manually uploading the prices, which of course results in highly outdated and inaccurate data.
>>143624396
It's always been this way, if you thought Thrudd's or slopey's trade tools were up to the minute, you're a fucking fool.
>>143625386
Back when they started out they were updated as soon as you (or someone else who had the tool) docked somewhere. They shut that down fast as fuck and said something among the lines that they wanted to do their own API Which wasn't implemented when I was still playing, not sure if it is now.
>just logged in at robigo
>10% fuel in my 64t tank ASP
>can no longer buy fuel
>have to wait forever for my tanks to refill
thanks fdev
>>143626524
Do want walkable interiors.
Also when the fuck is viper mk4 getting its agility buffed, holy fuck 4/10 is atrocious, send help.
>Interested to see what future people look like
>Custom color palettes have fucked them up more than they already are
Joleen really let herself go.
DID THEY FUCKING NERF A-CLASS FSD CHARGE TIMES?
>>143627946
If it was fair and fun, probably.
>>143628345
No, seriously, I used to count down with my ASP and it took <5 seconds. It now take around 10.
>>143627598
My color palette ain't doing that senpai
>>143628539
As a matter of fact, I thought kicking in the fsd felt longer. But I don't see it mentioned in the patch notes?
>>143627265
All the ships desperately need to be rebalanced, something so that they actually make sense in comparison to each other and what gear they have instead of random numbers.
>"The AI isn't THAT bad"
>"You just need to git gud :^)"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZN_yZ07-18
>>143630956
What the fuck just happened in that vid?
Out of the all games i tried in VR so far this one has been by far the best one
When i tried out eurotruck i literally had to puke after 5 minutes, but with this one it's just a blast looking and flying around. It's like this game was perfectly tailored towards VR hmd's
>>143630956
>taking a Python into a fight
You know they nerfed those into cargo ships back in 1.1 right?
>>143633493
did you miss the part where it was obliterated within less then 2 seconds?
What is the current go-to multipurpose ship?
I've got 250 mil to blow.
>>143631589
He got blown up in under 3 seconds is what happened. Fuck this game. Just fuck it.
>Devs are too retarded to balance
>enemies now chaff every 10 seconds (literally. This is not "lol they chaff so much" they liteally chaff on a 10 second CD) to make gimbal useless
>little NPC Piss ships now randomly can put out laughably high DPS for that "challenging, intelligent combat experience"
>didn't remove any of the old credit grind
>in fact added some more grind because that's what this fucking game needed
>the "contend" they added with the Season pass is a fucking joke. Season pass was full price and added almost nothing. Could have bought easily 3 or 4 decent games on steam for the price.
Why even bother with this fucking game? If you want grind without content I HIGHLY recommend Progress Quest: http://progressquest.com/play/
>>143630956
>Giving NPC's access to the High tier engineer mods along with increasing their difficulty
What the fuck was Braben thinking?
>>143634308
Don't do multipurpose mang. Just don't. Look for the one thing you want and get a ship for that. If you want something different, get a different ship. Multi ships are just a good way to get a ship that's mediocre at two things.
>>143630956
>It can't possibly be THAT bad
>Try conflict zone
>Infinite ammo spam, shotty gunships and phytons are back
>Infamous 'u wot m8' everyone-locks-on-me AI is back again
Why do they even let that bitch code when she can't into moderation?
>>143634686
It's the Dark Souls of space games!
>>143634762
Or a Russian S.T.A.L.K.E.R MOD equivalent of spess gaem. Unfinished, grindy and scrappy.
>>143634308
Anaconda if you can afford it
otherwise Python/Asp
Wtf is up with this Dev's obsession with grinding?
Almost all the new content released is literally locked behind another massive grind wall. Like for fucks sake, as if the initial grind to get the ship you want plus outfitting isn't enough. God forbid they throw the player base a fucking bone for once without having to spend another couple of months grinding for ingredients only to later do battle with RNG bullshit to fucking get the results you want.
>>143634921
Don't you dare. I wish ED was the R.E.B.O.R.N. of space games. At least I would have fun then.
>>143635528
They don't know how to do anything else. That's all they had planned for the game from the start and judging by the 200 USD """"lifetime pass"""" they were offering for a short while they intend to pull at least five more seasons out of the game. You'd better believe that want the grind to take FOREVER.
>>143635732
>Hello! beware forumdad it's a their breeding season!
Did C3 multi-cannons just get introduced in this update? I haven't seem them before and assumed they didn't exist.
>>143636203
>approach abandoned station
>500 unanimated middle-aged-man models fly out and one-shot you
>You cannot change vision and the brabo kick YOU out!
>>143636849
C3 and C4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe91PkyFlkU
>hello everybody CMDR NOBODY here
>todeh im guna sow u how new AI is.... tottly balance
>look i just beat shitty eagle and fedship without magic shottys
>i didnt upload the part where i died ;^)
>about conflict zone? lol whatever, i just uploaded this to look edgy
>>143638290
https://youtu.be/6MWK7uNOlBw
>Random Smuggle Scan 2 : Electric Boogaloo
If you have ANY bounty at all, random NPC ship will spawn out of thin air to fuck you up.
>>143485568
did they buffed the AI or is it just me
it feels like fuckers cheat like an ass now
anyone can give me quick run down on the engineers?
what is the RNG bullshit I am hearing about, I have a guess but I dont want to believe it
>>143644437
and they seemingly nerfed FSD spooling times so good luck jumping out before getting interdicked :^)
>>143645247
Yes
Yes
HOLY SHIT I don't know what the fuck you are doing right now but fuck that. GET TO FUN ZONE RIGHT NOW.
>Missed Painite exploit
>Missed cap ship exploit
>Discovered fun zone on day one
>>143646559
gibe system senpai so I can rat you out
>>143646656
How about no
>out turned by a conda in a FDL max pip engines 5a thrusters
I get AI is stronk but no this is utter bullshit
>>143648554
Swear it's been like that for a while now. You can be in an eagle and you can still get out turned by the AI in a python.
Oh look, it's still alive!
i hate to love this game, its so bad but I find myself listening to music and running trades
>>143648921
they made AI retardly overpowered now. I have to break off from the HAZRES after 6-7 kills in FDL
the butthurt on the forums is delicious. cant blame them though, this is souls level difficulty to some
probably the AI nerf is incoming gonna skip bounty hunting for now
>I'm the only one who knows the fun zone
>>143650106
I think it's not the NPC AI itself but the RNG of NPC ship.
>no reload
>no overheat
>10/10 maneuverability
>>143650565
There a reason you're shitposting instead of playing in it?
>>143650691
Oh, but I'm playing the game right now. In the background, though.
>>143650671
>10/10 maneuverability
that is the only thing I am getting pissed at
I have a conda and a FLD in the hangar
>get conda goto hazres pick a fight with a conda
>fucker points at me all the sodding time neglecting boost anything
>go back, get the FDL
>same shit happening
the since its space combat you cant tail the ship that easily, specially the AI and its magical turning abilities
this is what kills the combat
>>143650918
stop shitposting and do some real exploits like painite
>mfw the painite cost is doubled
>>143651051
>GIF with proper filename
I see you are one of the true /edg/lord. I will tell you the secrets of fun zone.
>Powerplay
>Turrets
>NPC ships
Figure out the rest by yourself. It's not that difficult.
>lost cobra mk3 to vulture
well the AI is better at least.
>>143651392
good luck on the path brother
why is this game so blurry at smaller resolutions?
>>143524050
Let me tell you the truth - every space sim is about grind:
Freelaner was about grind (u spam same missions)
X was about grind (u fly from one station to another selling batteries)
Star Conflic is also about grind (farming credits, reputation, resources)
The olny difference is how many ways to grind do you have.
>>143531632
40 Ceti sells both large and huge
nothing like flying in the mail slot at maximum boost with a cargo full of slaves
>>143652103
Whats your supersampling set to?
>>143652818
SMAA with SS being 1.5 at 1366x768
blur off bloom off
pretty sure people have this shit working on the vive which is low resolution so no reason my laptop would look like shit.
>>143652817
Gotta give them the excitement on their last flight :^)
>>143653095
1366 is your problem, bud. That's just a low resolution.
Also the Vive isn't low res. It runs at 2160x1200.
>>143653282
Well technically the vive is 1080x1200 twice, but you're right its probably just me going from 1080/4k to laptop res.
game is just so comfy in bed wish it looked better, might need to invest in a new laptop for this.
>>143653392
Game honestly isn't that comfy from bed to be honest, tried it. If you're playing with a controller just invest in an Oculus, its wholly worth it for this game.
I did more tests on the AI
using a trade conda no banks, 8B shields, 4 A shield boosters and full gimball multi setup
I changed my fighting style to tanky and guess what. AI ships melted before they get through my shields. Conda still has the highest DPS output and it still works
so what frontier did by buffing maneuverability, they made smaller crafts much harder to fly. Big tanky ships are still the way to go against npcs.
Also I found out when low on shields manually resetting your shields is faster than waiting forever
at least you get a proper time indicator
have fun
>>143655227
too bad those of us who cannot get anacondas or other big ships are screwed then huh
>>143655381
aim for python
>>143655496
Doesn't help much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZN_yZ07-18
I think the best solution is to remove NPCs access to engineer stuff.
10 minutes and I am still dropping from orbital cruise
send help
>new ai comes
>forced to waste 2 million switching from viper mk 4 to cobra mk 3 because the new changes make it impossible to fly
>all while being a poor noob with maybe 6 million in assets total
this game just seems determined to piss me off.
>lets add upgrade roulette to elite, players will love that
I want to find the fag who had this idea and force him play russian roulette
>>143655557
Its an obvious bug
>>143657447
say it to me face plonker and not online and see what eldritch horrors come about
>>143658240
I want to choke that fag with whatever is that thing handing from his shoulders then shit down his hat
anyone whant to wing up and blow some npcs?
flying a conda right now
you know i was hoping to log on to elite and do something fun today but it looks like im going to spend the next 3 or 4 hours travelling 2000 fucking lightyears total on pointless fetch quests just to unlock the faggot fucking engineers who want meta alloys and soontill relics.
>>143658639
Sure thing. Add CMDR Larive AeryanI don't care about happiness
>>143660968
I will never understand why they decided to make fetch-this-shit requirements. What's the fucking point? It doesn't take skill. It doesn't take brain. It only takes precious time. What is the point of this design? Do they even have brain to boot?
>>143661252
what really salts me is how even after i finish this massive space-equivalent version of a new york -> shanghai trek with only the shittiest of rowboats being allowed, ill still have to grind useless modifications to up rep. mods which i largely wont want, and will probably never find the materials for, but im forced to do so to keep up with the cheating NPC AI.
>>143660968
>>143661252
>>143661390
i just ran into a solar system named New Utah.
i feel like this name perfectly sums up the area of the galaxy im in and how much i fucking hate its rustic country out in the middle of nowhere with zero population feel
>elite dangerous
>>143660968
RNGNEERS is the new powerplay
Got a conda that's all D class parts and I have 41 million creds left over. How should I outfit this puppy?
>all signal sources are Unidentified now
>you have to scan them to see shit
This is literally the complete opposite of what they needed to do.
>>143663970
Are the USS any better or more varied at least?
>>143663649
go full multi gimball
>>143664336
Even C4 gimballed? Where can I even get that? And what is the minimum I should rock for thrusters or shield gen?
>>143664535
shield generator/thrusters/power plant/power distributor/FSD should always be max size you can fit, A rank, regardless of the ship you're flying
get D life support, it weighs less
also with the new AI i would honestly advise anyone flying a ship with less than 7/10 agility to just use turrets. its impossible to actually get any NPC above competent in your firing arc even with gimballed with less than 7/10 agility.
>>143661204
you still playing mate?
also for anyone who wants a wingman CMDR vader877
>>143652183
I don't think people would mind the grind all that much if not for supercruise. Supercruise is the worst thing I've ever seen. Your acceleration and deceleration is completely out of your hands and for some fucking reason your acceleration suddenly surges if the game decides you're moving too fast at a station or planet even if you cut your throttle to zero.
An example of doing the same thing but better would be warping in Rebel Galaxy. Same shit as supercruise except you can start and stop whenever, acceleration is based on your ftl drive model and you can still come random encounters/poi's without hitting a loading screen and no more six second waltz.
>>143667498
I don't have a problem with supercruise besides being unable to abuse emergency drops to get into 'instanced' areas, but I really hate how I have a limit on how far you can jump in hyperdrive. It should be limited to your fuel usage, not some arbitrary "you can only go 10 lightyears in one jump' shit.
>Doing random uss's in my Python for engineer shit
>Come across a pirate in an adder guarding one ton of free floating space beer
>He scans my ship while commenting on my cargo
>Nothing but limpits
>He apologizes and asks me not to shoot him
At least they added more dialog.
>when you drop out of orbital cruise and nothing happens for 5 minutes
fuuuuuuuck
>Half the forums are bitching that Fdev fucked up yet again with Engineers
>other half of forums consist of the forumdads unironically defending Fdev just because
Business as usual, Incompetant Dev releases half assed update yet again.
>>143670747
yeah, see you next year when this general can be alive again
>>143670747
feels like this is finally the tipping point for this game, alot of people had high hopes for this update.
The Forums are literally on fire right now, lmao
RIP Elite: Dangerous
>>143670747
but I am feeling a slight gradual progress which gave me hope
>>143671074
They made alot of QoL improvements that were sorely needed, yes.
But the Main fucking attraction to this update is completely locked away behind yet another MASSIVE grind wall, along with the new bullshit changes they made to the AI.
>Player will need to spend hours upon hours to search for the materials needed for the engineers.
>Even when you get the materials needed, you still need to battle fucking RNG to get the results you want
>oh btw, all the NPC's have access to the high tier equipment that YOU the player have to grind endlessly for
>Happy flying cmdr o7 :^)
>>143671570
>oh btw, all the NPC's have access to the high tier equipment that YOU the player have to grind endlessly for
This is easily the worst part. The Engineers are described as being 'the galaxies finest inventive minds', why the fuck would they just hand out their upgrades to nobody NPCs?
>>143671570
Seriously, they need to drag whoever thought that adding even more grind to an already grind plagued game was a good idea out to the back of the studio and shoot them in the head.
Actually better yet, they might as well put the game itself out of its misery, because this was basically there last chance, and they fucked it up.
>Just lost my Anaconda to an NPC Sidewinder with Full auto rail guns
>>143672190
now that takes skill
>>143672190
I refuse to believe this.
>>143672363
>he doesn't know
>>143630956
>>143672779
there is something off with AI vultures
3 large 1 huge 2 med 1 small auto all firing at the vulture point blank range
and I cant even bring its shields down
ok
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=254585
>the poll for the AI being to hard is starting to overtake the AI is fine poll
even the dads can't defend this absolute blunder
>>143673212
mfw now there is a forumdad splinter group
>>143673212
A lot of the old guard "ftroop can do no wrong" types have long left.
going to merope for alloys
anyone wants to tag along?
>>143674387
Go to Maia and buy one off one of the stations there, I forget the name. Not the Coriolis one.
>>143674735
is is hard to find one on merope C?
>>143674735
i think its one of the surface stations, i forget the name
>>143675060
>>143674992
Well all the previous locations are gone so yes.
I just got done with that 2000 lightyear trek I was complaining about earlier in this thread, and fuck me I'm glad its fucking over.
Also credit payouts for stuff need to be increased by a lot. Double at least.
>>143675467
I am at the maia and the system is unexplored I cant see the sodding planets
and the station has no outfitting
what kinda hell hole is this
>>143627598
>>143628575
Can someone show me what their palette looks like on ths screen? I cant get it to work, might be this particular green that fucks things up?
Also, after a while wondering why there are no good missions, I just realized that missions are now split up between providers. Is there no combined view anymore?
>>143672190
No this did not happen.
Unless you got fucked like the guy in >>143655557
>>143672190
What did you just sit there and let him kill you?
>>143677209
you.....dont have a scanner?
There are times where the game is broken and there are time where you're just a dumbass.
>complaining about new AI
How about you get gud? Honestly the only thing wrong with the AI is the payouts.
>>143681740
I dont explore why would I waste a class 4 slot for this
anyways I "eyeballed" the station
it was semi fun
>>143681745
Shit like >>143655557 is what we're talking about.
>>143682062
You shouldnt waste a class 4 slot on a scanner. Why cant you stick it on a class 2?
>>143681572
did you miss the
>Full auto Rail guns
part?
>>143682435
had a hangar there
where ever I put scanner feels like a waste
>>143682823
That's because FD is retarded and wont let you put multiple modules in the same compartment.
>class 4 space
>cant put a pair of class 2 modules in it
>>143683047
my exact thoughts
if /edg/ got in control of the devs for a single day the game will be fixed
a week, and we are talking goty
>Arguing with dads on the forum
Holy shit, wtf is wrong with these people? Why do they all talk in such a condescending manner? Down talking anybody with any kind a of criticism from there ivory tower.
How did it come to this?
>>143683604
It's been like that for a long time, and not just for E:D.
Pretty much every indie game is like that now.
And for non-indie games like E:D, the developer just has to appeal to "biodrone" users.
One of the most interesting things I found in this community is that many of the "famous" griefers in the game that seem to have a pass straight from FD to do whatever they want are British. (FD is a British company)
>>143683604
Don't bother
let them go down with there sinking ship
>>143683604
You're not supposed to argue with loonies.
>you have to spend 10's if not scores of hours scanning wakes and mining planet surfaces just to have an engineer take a stab at making your jump range a cut above piss-all
The player numbers on steam are the highest I've ever seen them. How long do you guys think it will last?
>>143687125
2-3 months at most
The forums are filled with mostly condemnation for this update, even the dads are being drowned out.
ALOT of people are fed up with Fdevs shit
I have 40 hours in ED
Does it ever get fun?
are there any other HOTAS games I should play?
>>143687307
Once everybody realizes that this update is literally grind wall RNG edition people will start to drop this shit yet again.
>The grind is all in your head :^)
Why do the dads keep saying this? do they know what grinding means?
>>143687125
On top of this, you have to visit the engi in the ship you want upgraded. So good fucking luck to those of you that to upgrade a type 9.
Why cant you store cargo at stations? That by itself would make this much less of a pain. You have to have people carry shit for you.
>>143688202
They're saying it because they never actually play the game.
>>143688202
because there all completely satisfied with aimlessly flying around doing nothing in there end games cobras
its empire vs federation vs alliance vs independent
>>143688754
>those guys that actually clicked the "too easy" option
So the forums are really at odds with itself right now
is 2.1 really that bad? should i even bother with it?
>>143689174
stay away 2.2 is coming many things will change
or frontier will choke in its own feces
>>143689431
>2.2 is coming
So soon? so after releasing such an abhorrent rushed 2.1 there going to release yet another abhorrent rushed update?
>>143689431
Just wait until NMS comes out.
FD will fucking burn.
>>143689719
>abhorrent rushed 2.1
This update was in development for at least 8 months.
And yet it's still shit.
Even after testing.
Even after a large portion of the beta testers said that the RNG was garbage and that fetch quests are being used improperly.
This isnt even the first time. A shitton of the testers complained about Horizons and FD just shat the update onto Steam with no changes and only started fixing shit after 3/4 of the people stopped playing.
>>143690163
Why do they even have Betas if they're not going to even listen to the feedback of the testers?
>>143690163
Also, a lot of the bugs that were present in the beta
are STILL present in the finished product. Even after being reported by testers.
how can one dev be so incompetent?
>>143690385
They actually DO listen, or they at least respond. Their response to people not liking the RNG was "go fuck yourself."
>>143690967
and now they're forums are burning to the ground and they're game is losing players at a phenomenal rate
well done braben
>>143691248
Was destroying his own game part of his master plan?
>>143691824
I wonder what is the next step on his masterplan?
See, Elite Dangerous isn't a typical Fdev game, it's Braben's dream project, and like a dream, it doesn't make much sense.
Why can't this game just be good?....
Why?....
>>143689719
>>143689431
2.2 is fucking ship launched, ai controlled fighters for a handful of ships. If you think that is going to add anything meaningful to the game..
Also the fighter is always going to be the f36 falcon and never any other ship because they made the Imperial variant too odd shaped to cram into a launch bay and god forbid the alliance have anything unique.
>This general has more discussion about the ensuing drama caused by an update rather then the game itself
>>143693184
Theres nothing to discuss
Everyone here got duped into paying for this turd on the premise that the devs were competent.
It's more tragic then infuriating. When you play the game you can see and feel the potential it has, but unfortunately its unlikely it will ever achieve that potential due to Braben and his ilk and the helm.
>>143693184
So do the forums.
>>143693996
Underrated post right here
>>143692994
>imperial ships are going to be launching federation fighters
>this is because fdev is too lazy to make the imperial fighter just have folding wings
>>143693915
It's like witnessing a poor child being abused by his/her shitty parents and being unable to do anything about it
>>143694849
Not to mention the forumdads themselves seem to be child abusers from some of their twisted stories of them forcing their kids to sit next to them and act like co-pilots or they get hit or no dinner or are just tied to the chair.
Of course then there are their wives that only let them play two hours a week.
Elite attracts two types of people. People that want a fun space sim but will inevitably be tragically disappointed and creeps that demand everyone participate in their fantasy.
>>143692636
It's also apparently a very uneventful, boring dream
gud fit for viper mk3 and can it surpass or at least equal the cobra mk3 because i FUCKING HATE THE COBRA GOD
So how would /edg/ save this game from itself?
>>143697074
Killing off all the forum dads would be a good start
>>143695423
>forumdads themselves seem to be child abusers from some of their twisted stories of them forcing their kids to sit next to them and act like co-pilots
They are corrupting the youth into their faggot ways, it's the only way to guarantee a new generation of forumdads to cover the damage control for the entire TEN YEAR PLAN.
>>143695518
>and can it surpass or at least equal the cobra mk3
no to both
>>143697276
The only way to do that would be to convince FD to remove Solo.
>>143700521
i think he meant actually killing them irl friend
I just took a look at how long it takes to get a decent mod.
Grinding for materials is ridiculous. All my fucking credits feel a bit worthless now.
But I could live with all that if the engineers were not so random.
It can take anywhere from a week to a full day to get a decent mod. I just can't waste anymore time on this bullshit grind.
Worst part is THERE IS NOTHING TO REALLY DO!
Most online games support themselves with raids, boss fights, co-op missions. Even shitty Korean MMOs have things to do in the long term.
This has nothing.
Elite Dangerous will forever be the pretty game with incompetent developers.
>>143700684
pretty excessive tbqh
>>143697074
Turn the mystery of the UA's, Barnacles and other interesting community goal related bullshit into actual single/coop storylines instead of weekly grinds for cash. Put out a new storyline every major update. Do this without making the player "the chosen one" and instead just a member of the group.
Instead of community goal grinds, have periodic events that last up to a week or more, like a full on multistage war that you have to pick a side and can support multiple ways such as front line fighting, behind the lines logistics privateering or moving supplies with a definitive winner based on player activity
It's a multiplayer game, it should act like it. Give it a global or at least a system chat that broadcasts through all instances, overhaul wings so there's a reason to fly in a group for a change, like better bounty sharing and splitting missions, missions that require multiple people in different places at once.
Powerplay...I don't know, it's so fucked that I can't imagine how to fix it while still being recognizable. At least make your choice of what side mean something beyond what goodies you get at max level friendship.
Oh, and make the fucking economy live.
>>143701858
Also if No Man's Shit and Star "shilling" ever come out and are half decent games. Elite is done.
>introduced weapons that can melt your ship via heat damage
>made using thermal weapons generate even more heat
>made missiles and torpedoes dangerous to increase the need for pd
>nerfed heatsink ammo count while simultaneously making utility slots even more valuable
>silent running is kill
>100s of hours of grind to reach the new pvp meta
This patch is truly 10/10 so far
>>143702270
This
The only reason Elite is so popular is because it has no competition as of right now
>>143701858
A lot of the materials aren't all that difficult, scanning ships and shit isn't tough, just fly out to a point, turn around to face the primary star and scan every ship coming and going the system for an hour or so.
It's the surface mining shit that gets me, that's so fucking random. I can spend hours running around a moon and find everything but what I need. Why do I need arsenic to make my FSD better?
>>143702270
>>143702832
It's not the gathering of the mats that are the issue. The issue is with the whole RNG aspect of crafting.
doesn't feel good to do all that grinding for mats, only to have the RNG deny you the specific mod your aiming for the build you want.
>>143703060
They don't want one specific build to be everyone's goal, so they made it impossible for there to be a specific build.
>>143703494
Except no one in their right mind is going to experiment because it takes so long to get a desired build.
>>143703494
So they make sure that no one can experiment?
genius
>>143703974
If you've noticed, that's how Frontier deals with everything.
Don't like the idea of players turreting? Fuck up the yaw rate!
Don't like the idea of Chinese gold farmers? No player credit trading or open broadcasting!
>>143703026
Holy shit I never knew mad katz was bought out by fisher price.
>>143653095
Is this too blurry for you?
I'm liking this whole watching the ship sink as we sit in a lifeboat.
>>143707635
My lifeboat died in 6 seconds to a rapid fire shotgun.
>Try to do a mission that pays our fairly well (2 mill)
>have to go steal some data cache from a pirate base
>Nifty.jpg
>get to the base and everything goes fairly well
>find the data point i'm supposed to steal
>Suddenly my SRV gets stuck on some invisible wall
>can't move
>Can't get out
>have to suicide to free myself
>this happens twice in a row in the same spot
Thats enough screwing around with this buggy as fuck game
>>143706824
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoC0YKYGYCc
I had some serious close calls in this game.
It was one of the few times where I had fun.
Note the 1% hull
>>143715994
I will say, I love the fact that your canopy can break and the HUD no longer works on it. Having to evade interdiction when you can't see the HUD is particularly nerve-wracking.
Also, I like the new voices they included for docking, I think they call you by the start of your player name with the phonetic alphabet, which I particularly cool.
That's all the nice things I have to say about Elite.
>>143717504
I think the fact that you have the universe to scale is really cool. It's also not total sci-fi and apart from the FSD, the science seems probable. I just wish there was stuff to do. Star Citizen has more going on but most of that stuff is still years away from going public. Just can't win.
What about No Man's Sky? Seems popular among other Elite players.
>>143718291
Popular maybe because it shares a similar attribute: Nothing to do. The devs have been very tight lipped about what you actually do in the game. They keep saying
>You can explore a procedurally generated universe!
But nothing past that as if they're trying to hide a lack of content.
>>143718648
Heard it got delayed for more polish in the PS4 version
>>143719142
They pushed it back from June 21st to August 9th. Hardly much of a delay but it seems the death threats are already flowing.
>>143718291
They said you're not allowed to play with friends/other peoples
>>143718291
It seems to be another grindfest to me.
Grind for materials on planets in order to upgrade your ship.
On top of that it has ZERO player interaction. At least based on what I heard.
Finally the developers are very ambiguous on in-game activities. At least with star citizen you can download the alpha and get a feel for what the finished product might have.
>>143720402
>At least based on what I heard
It's true and confirmed by the devs. Player interaction is rare by design.
From what be heard the NMS devs wanted to make a small minecraft clone in space. But after they got bought out the hype machine went into overdrive.
>>143720909
Why?
Why cant someone just do it right?
Have player interaction, have areas that are meant to be dangerous and allow unfettered PVP, have safe areas, dont have a Solo mode, allow players to have an actual effect on the game, and dont release a broken product.
Sadly, Elite is the closest we're probably going to get to this unless you switch genres and play Space Engineers. (which is buggy as hell)
>>143683604
>Why do they all talk in such a condescending manner?
Because they're whipped as shit by their wives, and the only people who willingly talk to them are their kids.
>>143721734
>play EVE for a bit
>take a break june of last year
>play Elite
>its okay i guess
>every update breaks the game further
>dont even bother with the expansion
>wish for more player interaction, PVP, for faggots to stop hiding in solo, for players to actually affect the game instead of Ftroop just stringing everything along with fanfiction-tier writing
>realize EVE has everything Elite doesnt
>get back into EVE recently
>mfw having a blast even more now that ive realized how absolute shit elite is and how EVE has everything i want
i have you to thank for that, brabo
>>143721734
>Elite is the closest we're probably going to get
As the other guy pointed out EVE is ten times the game Elite is. It's a complete game and has years of content.
>>143723592
The only thing that Elite has over EVE is the actual flying part. Elite is pretty damn fun if you ignore everything else about the game and play it solely as rooty tooty spacey shooty game, but that even gets dull after a while.
And also to be fair, EVE has a 12 year head start on Elite, so it's clear that EVE will have more content. The problem is that Elite is, on a base level, broken beyond repair. Nothing Ftroop does could ever instate the market economy, the player-driven corporation and faction warfare, the industry, the amount of ways you can fit a ship, and the PVP and even the fucking PVE that EVE has, short of scrapping the entire game and starting from scratch. Elite will always be a simple game where you are pigeon holed into only 3 roles depending on your ship: bounty hunter, hauler (notice how I didn't say trader), or explorer. There is nothing that Frontier can do to change that.
>>143723369
>>143723592
I've heard bad things about eves community. (backstabbing, etc)
And is eve still a grindfest?
>>143724653
The devs are completely hands off for the most part except for cases of cheating and botting, so yeah you see a lot of shit people who will try to scam and cheat you, or lure you into lowsec with tasty haul contracts so they can gank you and force you to pay billions in collateral. You really have to be smart about what you do and you'll probably be fucked over sooner or later but you can quit and play a shitty game like Elite or learn from it and move on. You can find great people in EVE if you search for chat channels for groups doing things you are also doing (exploration, salvaging, incursions, mining fleets if you really want to kill yourself) and finding a decent corporation to banter with people and do whatever it is you want to do, be it gank traders in hisec or be a nullbabby and join an alliance to fight for sovereign territory.
I really can't tell you about the grinding part though. I station trade and produce shit so it never really feels like grinding. I'm constantly jumping around bringing goods to trade hubs to sell, the worst part is waiting for skills to level so that I can get a T2 blockade runner. The best part of the game I think is that you can use the lower end ships and still be useful in a fleet.
>>143704015
>Open/mobius
Don't pretend you ever considered Open, you forumdad piece of shit.
>>143706824
>Trying to read that oxygen depleted text
>Mfw this game
This was fun. I imagine that another thread wouldn't make it.
It was nice talking to you guys again.
>>143729828
see you when the next update inevitably fails
>yfw this game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_6HjebZFYs
>>143730513
I heard there are even more bugs than there were in the beta? What the fuck is Fdev doing?
>>143731638
>What the fuck is Fdev doing?
Working on Planet Coaster.
>>143730513
>yfw all the idiot fucking dads defending this shit on the forums
>>143731894
That's actually looking pretty cool I'm not gonna lie.
>>143732114
It mite be a good game but I'm kind of ass blasted that they took my money for one game and put it into another before fixing or fleshing out the first one
>all these forumdads sending quoting each other with ironic emotes and actually want to strangle the guy next to him
it is getting pretty hilarious down there
Alright /edg/, since Robigo is dead;
what's the new hip way to deal dosh?
>>143737651
Fehu, Maia, Quince
>list of known Engineers
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wTmKrzLCXRIdHwKHaN-gXHq6YkS_JAnJKsyQp8P-j0Y/edit#gid=93194749
>list of mats and where to find them
https://www.dropbox.com/s/iur7ju548jwpq9z/Engineer%20Materials%20-%20Loations.pdf?dl=0
if anyone cares enough
>>143737651
Try fehu
>>143737921
I'll check it out later. Might get the long range fsd on my Python first.
>>143737921
thx mate
did they changed the Railgun ammo requirements?
does it still uses ammo?
>>143738658
The plasma rail slugs are what you thinking of. Rail gun mod that use fuel for ammo.
>>143723592
The thing is EVE doesn't have Elite gameplay.
>>143739048
> Rail gun mod that use fuel for ammo.
wow this is good
Anyone know of any good Voice Attack voices? I wanna use one when in the Vive but i dont want any chatty asshole AI telling me shit.
>>143741001
Astra
>>143741176
I did look at both Astra and Verity - Both seem to be what im looking for - I dont suppose there is any way to download it for free? Im a fucking jew i know
>>143741261
Anon posted this few months ago
http://1337xdotco/torrent/1010854/Elite-Dangerous-ASTRA-Voice-Pack/
>>143741526
Cheers man, Ill give it a shot
>>143741730
most fun thing I did with voice commands was to add an "EJECT" command
which killed the elitedangerous.exe
>>143741816
Oh hah nice, I was thinking of the same actually - I suck at dogfights as ive spent most of my time flying around trading and shit and had to combat log a few times with the new AI - Completely on me, Im shit and now i gotta git gud - Got a Fer de Lance which is making the Engineer collection a whole lot better
>Get a tiny amount of bounty
>AY HOL UP IMMA BOUNY HUNNA
>GON GET DEM SWEET 500 BOUNY
>inderdigdion dedegded :DDDDD
At this point I want to reenact this bullshit on who the fuckever in FTroop came up with this.
how do you get Atypical Disrupted Wake Echoes?
Went to Maia to get meta-alloys and was instantly destroyed by a federal fucboi right outside Obsidian Orbital
TIME FOR OVERWATCH
>>143746068
From memory, Get a Wake Scanner and just sit outside a port scanning peoples highwakes
>>143746281
>Go to a fairly high-traffic low sec area
>Get rekt
>Shit game
I mean yeah the game is still kinda shit but that isn't an example of it.
>>143747470
Didn't say it's shit.
Was just frustrating, and to do it again will take a long time so I need a break.
where do i get meta alloys REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
what the fuck they have done srv controls
I am sitting here trying to figure out how to activate datalink scanner for 10 minutes
>>143748035
I was pleased to find out that SRV can't actually use fire groups.
>>143747821
Maia, DARNIELLE'S PROGRESS ground port
>>143748035
The update reset some people's controls.
>>143748075
SRVs have the datalink and the main gun, what else are you trying to group?
surprised this thread has made it 3 days
I haven't played since powerplay. Kinda feel like doing some exploring. Has Horizons added anything to exploration mechanics besides more shit to discover on a moon?
What I mean is like, if I'm far from the inhabited bubble, and something gets damaged, can I start landing on moons and looking for materials to repair shit?
>>143749518
You need to purchase SR Vehicle (TM) that comes with Horizons (TM) from Surface Settlement (TM).
Also there's extremely high chance that your exploration data is gone. Right on commander!
chemical processors
how do I get them. spent an hour in the res and only got one
am I supposed to blow up cargo ships or something?
>>143750084
I wasn't in the middle of a trip when I quit though, at least. But that's a pretty big fucking bug, jesus. Imagine coming back from a month long trip and patch hits just before you dock, and you get nothing.
But can you land on moons and find materials to repair your ship or do you still have to return to a station?
Have they even added any content to moons at all?
Tried powerplay before the patch... got ranking 4 the same day patch got live, went to a res in python fully fitted since i switched from space truck buying selling shit... got blown away after 3 minutes... it was my first death since fucking 3-4 months...
so this is total bullshit, i have to grind endlessly to find all these parts. and half the parts are found using more RNG. im out again.
>>143749518
If you have an AFMU I'm pretty sure you can restock it with materials from moons and shit like that. However, you need to a) own horizons and b) outfit an SRV hangar.
>>143752216
this
tried to craft the FSD upgrade but enough is enough
random loot from random encounters to get a random reward that may or may not benefit me
no thanks frontier, go fuck yourself
>system security arrives in Hazrez
>4 elite system security ships arrives before you get a chance to kill ships
>preparation nominations are broken
>any amount of undermining results in elite bounty hunter FDLs chasing you throughout the galaxy
>time to kill is vastly increased
>large quantities of money can be made while PP hauling
Great job Frontier, you just killed the one part of the game that kept me playing, it doesn't matter if we can adjust to beat the AI if its going to take 4 or 5 times as long to undermining as now it is no longer possible to stop hauling powers expanding.
>>143756042
I never understand why people bothered with powerplay
>mfw I realize the FD swept the wreckage known as powerplay under the rug
>mfw same shit with the planets
>mfw it is going to be the same again with the rngneers
>next big update will be multi crew and a single sodding puny ship to be launched
>the next update after that will be lava planet introduction an it will conclude the horizons dlc
>>143756676
>>mfw I realize the FD swept the wreckage known as powerplay under the rug
Just like any update ever. It's always sounds good on paper/sucks dick at realization.
And they never bother fixing it because they need to shit out another halfassed update soon.
Community goals, Wings, Powerplay, Planets, Engineers all follow the same pattern of "shit out quick, fix it next year maybe".
Shows they have a lot of idea guys but no competent game designers.
>>143723369
Too bad eve has a sub cost.
>>143721734
As someone who hides in solo mode, I do it because I don't feel like wasting what little credits I have on rebuy costs because your 500 million cutter or whatever the fuck completely outclasses me and you just gank me for no fucking reason whatsoever, just to be a douche.
Its the same reason I play singleplayer on all those survival early access games like rust. Open pvp brings out the absolute worst in people, and I'm not willing to put up with it. So I fuck off to solo mode and have fun without you.
Wake me up when pvp is restricted to faction vs faction and neutral cmdrs can't be attacked, and then I'll come back to open play.
>>143725941
Who the hell is actually dumb enough to accept hauler contracts with collateral that high?
Also >still be useful in a fleet with low end ships
Maybe if you enjoy being the tackle bitch, that's pretty much it. And you'll immediately be blown up in the first fight you go to because the logi won't care about keeping a t1 frigate tackler alive.
>>143759435
>too bad eve has a sun cost
>as opposed to paying 60 a year for a buggy, rushed piece of shit that ecomes more broken with every update
>muh ganking
The problem is that theres no punishment at all for killing peopls. Ftroop has no idea how to balance a multiplayer game. I can gank you and get a measly bounty and have no repercussions. But instead of trying to get fixes for this by increasing system security and making ganking more dangerous in high sec systems, carebear retards like you want to gimp the game even further by limiting what players can do because "A BLOO BLOO MUH 500,000 REBUY THOSE MEAN BULLIES :(((("
>Went running around near one of the engineer bases
>Find a poi guarded by skimmers
>Take down the skimmers
>I was still in the massive no fire zone and racked up some fines
>Can't pay off the fines in the engineer base because they don't have a communications tab.
>>143761186
Because I don't want my fun ruined because you decided to be a gank bitch, that means I'm the problem? Get fucked. You hyper-aggressive fags who can only find enjoyment in fucking over someone else are the real problems.
Why wreck salvage fragments are not commodities?
Why there's no chance in hell you could find an intact component there like a pulse laser or something?
Why they don't require cargo to store?
Why there are no dedicated places to farm them like ship graveyards and rust belts?
Why there are no dedicated junker depots to sell off this stuff and get money for it?
Why this cool salvaging is locked for Horizons only and onlty for the sole purpose of crafting engineer mods?
Why we get this half assed shit instead of fully functional salvaging and junkratting when everything it needs is already in the game?
>>143756676
Powerplay provides some kind of meaning and challenge to the game and in an organised group is actually kind of fun, especially if you join a power not filled with forumdads (so not Mahon) and now they've removed the ability to compete with said forumdad powers by making it impossible to out undermine haulers even if you have a week of focus.
Things like the Fed-Alliance snipe will never be possible again and the leadership in the private forum areas of my power is saying it may be worth just calling it quits on powerplay.
>>143762271
Not even a ganker but if your answer to fix the game is to take away even more from the game and limit players then you should go ahead and submit your application to Frontier because you'll fit right in.
>>143759435
Fuck you anon. I am not a ganking faggot. I hate those people and think they should only be allowed to pull that bullshit in Anarchy.
Between Fdev being incompetent and shitty griefing clans that paid FD off so they can circle jerk in FDLs and have billions in assets and faggots like you that refuse to play an MMO online, its no wonder the player numbers are so low.
>but there 6k people online!
Yeah and when they realize they have to spend 100 hours grinding signal sources to get upgraded they're going to fuck off.
So if I don't have the DLC, this shit is useless?
>>143762789
The best part is that even on a combat ship you are almost forced to waste a slot for a collector limpet because actually scooping the stuff manually is hell.
>>143769759
Yes because FD would never just put an engi base in orbit.
>>143769759
Right on CMDR
>>143769759
At the moment, yes.
/egd/ thread, why?
we're back?
>>143770061
How fucking retarded is that?
I understand that you are gating dlc content this way, but why not include a unique space outpost or two an make them shoo bad goys away just like the land ones do?
Or even let bad goys land and sell the useless salvage and junk?
Having to go planetside everytime is annoying and not exactly beneficial to visual variety.
>>143770275
You're just in time to see it die again.
This update is pure shit.
>>143688202
unlike you, they know the anaconda isn't any different from the sidewinder aside from having a different looking cockpit
they just don't want to say it aloud because it would sound negative and they might get negative rep
>>143769759
They really should make an in game auction house for this shit. It would let non horizon players actually profit off toting around all that shit and lessen some grind for players looking for a quick upgrade.
>hello cunt I am going to butt-in your dogfight just to demand you to hand over your 2100£ cargo and then start shooting you to shit
>t.regards:anaconda
>>143771232
>player market
Good luck getting that through the dad blockade. They fear gold farmers more than death itself.
>>143771232
>player market
>actual MMO feature in elite
>>143771692
>gold farmers
Are they still using that retrded non excuse?
There's not enough people playing to warrant farmers attention otherwise they already CAN do this.
>>143772524
Go try to start a discussion on the forums about player trading. The balding hordes will tell you that you that the game would be ruined by gold farming and people who have tons of money just dropping millions in Eravate. They'll also tell you that if you want to trade, you should literally just buy a bunch of palladium and drop it for whoever you want to trade with to scoop up.
>>143771692
>>143772224
I hate the kneejerk reactions the forumdads have over shit like this. Elite isn't even the type of game gold farmers would get involved in, it costs too much and the player base isn't big enough. But no, even the misty, vague threat of someone trying to sell someone over chat has caused the complete blockading of the idea of
>galaxy wide or multi-instance chat
>legal credit or goods transfer (the lack of which fucks over pirates)
>auctioning
>personal storage
The same with EVE. EVE is a curse word over there. Because someone once told them a story about an EVE griefer, we can now never have:
>In game player corps, guilds or even better wing tools
>Any meaningful player interaction
>Personal stations or homebases
>A live economy
>Actual piracy and bounty hunting
>Larger instances and wings
>>143773239
I didn't pay $500 and become the Top Chef of Kickstarter so I could have EVE in MY FUCKING SPACE GAME THAT I PAID FOR! Go back to COD you fucking STEAM kid before I beat you like my own child!
>>143532018
>once took on a wing of 5 clippers
>in a vulture
>>143532018
>wing of five clippers
in what fucking scenario there ever would be five goddamn clippers in one wing in one place at the same time?
This is how far i got for now. I don't want to it anymore already. This is just for leveling up and i spent HOURS driving over planet surfaces and mining for near no money, just to get the materials. I have fuck tons of materials I don't need and hardly any of the ones i do.
Remember that time a bunch of forumdads tried to get Frontier to ban anyone using third party tools and websites such as Slopey's or Thrudd's trade tools or even Coriolis because they considered it cheating?
Remember when they decided that using an Advanced discovery scanner was cheating and petitioned to have it removed and treated everyone that used one as a cheater?
Remember when they tried to have pirate players be forced to serve out real time prison sentences in game based on their bounties?
How about their proposed exponential repair and maintenance fees on ships larger than a Cobra because they didn't think anyone should be flying anything beyond that?
Remember when they demanded that Fdev turn the Python from a premier heavy fighter to a heavily armed cargo ship?
How about when they demanded all ships be slower than the Cobra because they couldn't outrun Vipers which were significantly faster?
There is plenty of reason to hate the forumdads.
>>143774463
you forgot their most recent accomplishment
>UA bombed Robigo because they felt that long range smuggling was cheating
>>143775281
That reminds me; Is there any new Robigo-esque high-income sites?
>>143773239
>>galaxy wide or multi-instance chat
That would be fairly cancerous though. I don't want to have to know an ebin reddit memer chat exists.
>>143774463
>vipers
>faster than cobra
I don't think so, Tim.
>>143774363
how did you even do that? do you just keep upgrading your shit to level up your rep with him?if thats really how its done then god help you fdev
>>143775556
Fehu, Quince, Maia
Forum dads forgot that they exist for now
>>143775587
Thanks to dads it's not the case now because they cried NERF VIPER during the beta when it was first introduced and WAS faster than a cobra.
>>143627946
I heard somewhere they made it longer. Another intelligent "balance" tweak. Now it takes you EVEN LONGER TO DO BRABENS EPIC FETCH MISSIONS.
>>143775623
>do you just keep upgrading your shit to level up your rep with him
Yup, apparently you can level by doing other rep tasks but most of the bases don't even seem to have services beyond basic outfitting and refuel/restock/repair.
>>143775281
>>UA bombed Robigo
Top kek, do you actually belive that this game can support any emergent gameplay like that?
It's Frontier who adjust these things manually. Blame them for listening to a bunch of salty grandpas.
>ED is not a game designed around instant gratification. You are not supposed to be done with engineers a week after they are introduced. How can so simple a concept escape the attention of so many?
I fucking hate forumdads so much
>>143775623
I spammed a lvl1 recipe taking something common and vanadium which is "common"
>>143775752
Is sothis/ceos still good? I haven't checked since 2.1 and they used to add a nice bit of extra cash to Robigo runs.
>>143776165
DAD GENOCIDE WHEN
ONE SHOT PADDY BACK WHEN
>>143776050
>It's Frontier who adjust these things manually
Well obviously, but they check the amounts sold to each station when doing big server updates. If they didn't the Cannon forumdads would throw a shitfit
>>143776381
Last time i went to Sothis i couldn't find any smuggling missions so take that as you will
no idea about Ceos
>>143778056
Pre-patch or post-patch? Sothis sometimes didn't spawn long range smuggling pre-patch missions.
>>143778321
Pre-patch
But considering what the dads did to robigo, and Sothis's close proximity to robigo, i wouldn't be surprised its fucked as well
>>143778532
Wouldn't surprise me, I would go out and check but they disabled the refueling at Robigo and I don't want to do 30 jumps in my Python to find I'm going to have to spend a while scooping.
>http://www.elitegalaxyonline.com/orrery/?system_id=1
AHAHAHAHA
tfw warp effect looks better in this shit than in the actual game
IS THERE A LIMIT TO FD INCOMETENCE?
What the fuck is wrong with the developers of this game?
DO they understand the concept of fun?
Even Ace Combat General has a better fanbase and more generals for a reason.
Seriously just put in activities and co-op missions that are actually enjoyable. I mean playing star citizen's arena VS AI with friends on mics is more engaging for a reason.
Also how the fuck to you fuck up crafting!?!!!!!!!!?????????!!!
Most games understand you put together a bunch of items to get a thing. They had to throw in RNG bullshit not to mention you need to grind in order to gain reputation with engineers.
Literally no one has positive things to say about these updates. A lot of online games have issues but their players actually look FORWARD to updates.
>>143775787
That really upsets me then because I fucking loved my viper mk4 but I was forced to sell it and change to a stupid faggot fucking cobra when the update hit because it was just too slow to work with the new AI.
>>143775752
Oh hey, thanks. Maia is closest to me with only 35 jumps away.
Should I upgrade my Python's cargo bay's now or can I do it over there?
>>143780027
It's even sadder when you realise that it supposed to be a dedicated interdictor.
>>143613571
>>143613959
Yeah the old AI was beyond retarded.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CdH6kgLajQ
>>143749518
Blue line hiding in the galmap is acting up, also it constantly jumps back to eco-routing. It is annoying as hell, would not rec to go exploring right now.
Apart from grinding on moons nothing new.
>>143687401
Fuck this game, Play ace Combat on the ps2.
Or freespace 2 with mods.
Better yet play freelancer.
>>143776165
>done with engineers
That's such a stupid fucking argument. Every time you get a new ship you need to visit them again. That's how it would work in a proper game. Maybe THEY are done with them after one go because they cant fly anything other than a fucking ASP.
Although in THIS game most people are done with the engineers as soon as they realize what they need to do to get anything out of them.
Is anyone else just as pissed off as i am about how this whole update turned out?
Like I'm actually just angry right now. I feel like i fell for some ruse.
This update was even DELAYED like 2 months so they could polish it, and it still turned out shit. NOBODY has anything good to say about it.
Can someone PLEASE take this game away from this grossly incompetent dev team and give it to someone who knows how to make a fun game?
>>143780021
you think that's bad?
Fucking Kerbal Space Program has a better general than this game.
FD IS LITERALLY MORE INCOMPITENT THAN SQUAD
FD IS WORSE THAN A BUNCH OF SCAMMING MEXICANS
>>143782089
I'm not that pissed off because I already went through this when Horizons came out.
That update might have actually been even more game breaking than this one.
>>143782154
Kerbal Space Program is piratable because it doesn't require a connection to a central server like elite does. That's why it has so many more players.
>>143782089
The only people who have anything "positive" to say about the game are literally the forum dads.
Go to the Engineers discussion on the forums, it's nothing but threads complaining about how bad the RNG aspect is.
But then enter the forumdads, with there fucking canned "I LOVE the new update, everything is perfect :^)" responses they are the worst part. i swear most of them have to be trolling.
>>143782089
>personal storage was part of their plan but they've ran out of time and couldn't implement it in 2.1
>>143782698
The worst part is, 9/10 of the beta testers told FD that the RNG was a terrible idea.
I heard rumors that the RNG was even worse in the beta, but any RNG is pretty bad IMO.
>>143782852
There's no way in hell FD even considered a useful feature like storage.
Also, it's fun reading about this update.
Forums
Steam
Here
EVERYONE IS PISSED OFF
>>143782867
Even big name Beta testers like Obsidian Ant and Kornelius warned them it was a bad idea.
Like, why even have a beta if your not going to listen to the testers feedback?
>Tfw made this thread to see if anyone wanted to play again
>Tfw realized it's all shit
>Tfw thread is still going on shitflinging alone
Truth be told, this is still better than nothing. At least I now feel like I'm not alone in hating this game. Makes things somehow feel less dead with just this alone.
What a depressing state this game is in
could have been goty material as well....
https://twitter.com/Frontier_Help/status/736590422215151616
Haha holy shit what. What does this even mean?
>>143785373
It means that they forgot to add bi-weave shields to station buy lists, so we can't buy them anymore.
Which kind of pisses me off because I used them before the update.
>>143785373
Their incompetence just never ends...
>>143785373
https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/4linds/frontier_youre_going_to_have_to_give_your_players/d3nxv5u
yeah its faggit but it answers your query.fuck frontier, i used bi-weaves, i loved that recharge time
>>143785703
Holy shit Reddit is actually not sucking the dev's dick? What in the fuck is going on?
>>143785373
HOW CAN YOU FUCK UP THIS BADLY
>>143783090
>>143782867
Why should Lord Braben listen to the cries of mere mortals. You all should be thankful you can partake in the vision of one above all others. Now be quiet and enjoy the vision lest Lord Braben let Sandro design something again.
>>143786564
2.1 was the update that finally broke the camels back
I'm on the fence. After taking a step back and looking at the big picture, the grind is enormous and the payout is very bleak. Do I want cool new things for my ship? Yes. Do I want to spend hundreds of hours doing mind numbing tasks to get them? No.
Should I just abandon ship now? I've flown all the ships and done plenty of pvp. Is there any reason whatsoever to stay on this ride?
Pic is a bunch of us shooting the shit next to the bugged barnacle on day 1. We stayed here for about 2 hours racing srvs and dicking around because this game has literally nothing else to do in it.
>>143785373
It means nobody at frontier has a fucking clue about anything. That's what it means.
>>143786783
No m8, 2.0 did that. We're just watching it slowly die now. The hope is gone, the dream is dead. All that is left is morbid curiosity.
2.0 was when the horse died
2.1 is the beating of the dead horse
2.2 will be feeding the dead horse into a wood chipper
>>143785373
>>143785559
>>143785689
>>143785703
>>143786564
>>143786584
HOW CAN A DEVELOPMENT TEAM FUCK UP THIS BADLY?!
Are they in competition with digital homicide?
>>143786856
I feel you bruv.
I once picked a random neutral system in the middle of nowhere, picked a underdog faction and started helping them out in hopes of them one day controlling the system.
Then after a month of doing everything I could to help them that the game literally won't allow them to expand beyond their one station for reasons unknown.
>>143787001
You're not wrong. I think horizons launch was the point where most people realized the game was doomed.
I've been looking around a gorillion stations by now. Where are all the pirate hunting missions?
>>143788124
>playing this game
Literally why?
>get E:D newsletter a week or 2 ago
>engineers about to drop
>cool, about time
>price drop to £20
>fuck you too FD
i knew i wasted my money back when i got horizons but dropping the price to £10 lower than the "loyalty discount" price after adding fuck all for the last 6 months is a purposeful fuck you to existing players.
I only have myself to blame for not expecting this
>forum dads getting so defensive when people are posting video evidence about how much of a fucking blunder this update is
OH I AM LAFFING
EARLY ACCESS DONE RIGHT
>>143789521
now forumdads are discussing the issues we were discussing when horizons and maybe even PP
/edg/ predicted this shit almost a year ago
>>143789521
>>143789521
>If that's not your video, how do you know it's not some player with a trash build like Class 3 bi-weaves?
they're still trying
>>143790138
Everyone with half a brain have seen that shit coming.
It's quite hilarious when you notice the same dads who got their knickers in the twist trying to argue with you back then are now saying exacly the same thing you were saying, exactly the same things they've tried to damage control.
Retards.
>>143790470
i saw that exact post too
Jesus christ
they are trying to contain the shitstorm by spiting the threads between dangerous discussion and engineers discussions
and it aint working
>watching this game and the forums burn to the ground is more entertaining then actually playing the update itself
>>143791261
crazy part is that the game has the most players online in over a year
everyone is witnessing this shitshow and FD probably thinks the high numbers are gonna last more than a week
>>143791261
>>143791673
>>143791686
>>143791983
>>143792359
And in the end, /edg/ was right......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5zGkqAWsWE
>tfw sold your bi-weave to experiment right before the update
>we're reaching the bump limit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2TE0DjdNqI
>>143793448
>mfw we are on page 1
this is glorious as it gets
>hires
>swarm of cops and pirates
>hit a pirate cops are pummeling without full scan
>400 cr fine
>all coppers drop doing their thing and focus on me
>try to tun but a sole viper mkIV is glued to my ass
>somehow it's able to keep up with my a-rated DBS with 4 pips in engine
>rebuy screen
posting the old gem
thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h7UPVOz6MU
>tfw one tiny bit away from "cordial" status with the mob in Maia
what do? do I just start shooting up everyone that isn't the mob?
FTROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_6HjebZFYs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ32a8wg7x4
Are they fucking serious with that shit? I mean, it looks cool, it might have been more fun and action-y if everyone had these weapons and it was balanced. But this?
As we approach the bump limit, i feel like this should be said.
Everyone who posts on /edg/ does so out of grief, sorrow, and most importantly, for what COULD have been.
As we descend back into our tombs like Necrons, let us not forget WHY we continue to post. We shall reconvene whence the next blunder of an update is released, or perhaps if lord Braben (peace be upon him) ever pulls his head out of his ass and fixes this trainwreck of a game.
To the other generals witnessing this tragic place, let /edg/ serve as a cautionary tale, DO NOT allow 40-60 year old baby boomers dominate your player base.
now back to our slumber.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Anyb4a_NgAk
>>143798661
I'm here for the dankerous memes.
>>143796050
for fucks sake
>>143798661
>mfw this update
I hope you guys stick around for the next big update. I'll miss the general.
>>143798661
see you on the other side m8, it was an honor posting with you all
>>143799369
I'm here until the very end.
All I want is some fucking arsenic Jesus Christ. How is this shit supposed to be "common"
>>143798661
>>143799369
>>143799880
What is dead may never die
>>143798661
maybe one day you guys......
one day....
>>143799369
I will be there because >>143798887
>>143793097
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJiUfnIzbVM
>>143806369
ya thats kinda like /edg/'s reaction to the new update
>>143793768
>>143798661
>we are all united in our everlasting hatred.
Soon we will become a chaos faction and transcend to the cosmos.
>>143806904
/edg/ formed long before the dads ascended to the forums and claimed the internet
original /edg/elords might as well ctan shards, we are literary necrons
find me a horus among devs and we are all set
after age of strife the god visionary Braben united the CMDR'S all around the galaxy
in a holy crusade to found the imperium of forumdads
rebirth of the elite dangerous
but now the imperium of forumdads is in disarray
chaos tainted forumdad separatist attack the loyalist threads
god visionary Braben is still in his throne room, havent seen by any other than his developers
in the grim darkness of future there is only war
>be noob in a cobra with less than 5 million credits
>always enjoyed RES hunting because of the constant reliable action and steady credits
>literally unable to do so now
>complain about it
>get told to go to systems in war and use combat bonds / assassination missions in war/unrest systems
>try to do this
>new AI hands my ass to me
>turns out you have to already be in an A - ranked python or some other multi million credit ship already to do this stuff
>realize there is absolutely no efficient way to get credits via combat from sidewinder -> vulture at least
might as well give up and refit for mining at this rate.
oh wait
i dont have a multi million credit ship to make that viable either
guess ill have to trade
oh wait
i dont have a multi million credit ship with enough cargo space to make that viable either
guess ill just quit then
>>143807991
How bad can you be?
>>143808828
I would assume I'm of middling skill. I don't have a big ship or really good components due to lack of credits.
>>143807991
>literally unable to do so now
???
>>143807991
Haul stuff in a Cobra and work your way up to a T-6. Use the T-6 to fund a decently fitted Vulture.
It is the 2nd Millennium. For more than a hundred centuries the Emperor of Frontier has sat immobile on the Golden Throne of Vision. He is the master of mankind by the will of the dads and master of a million worlds by the might of his inexhaustible forumdrones. His game is a rotting carcass writhing invisibly with power from the Dark Age of kickstarter. He is the Vision Lord of the vast Imperium of Grind for whom a thousand souls are sacrificed every day so that he may never truly die. Yet even in his deathless state, the Emperor continues his eternal vigilance. Mighty battlefleets cross the daemon-infested miasma of Elite, the only route between distant stars, their way lit by the asshurt, the psychic backlash of the Emperor's will. Vast armies give battle in His name on empty worlds. Greatest amongst his soldiers are the Vision Warriors, the Forum Dads, balding forty-somethings. Their comrades in arms are legion: the reddit dads and countless internet defence forces, the ever-vigilant moderators and the recently divorced of the Adadtus Cobraus to name only a few. But for all their multitudes, they are barely enough to hold off the ever-present threat to humanity from common sense, fun-lovers, psycho griefers -- and far, far worse. To be a man in Elite is to be one amongst untold dozens. It is to live in the cruelest and most grind filled regime imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of NPC AI and decent programming, for so much has been forgotten, never to be relearned. Forget the promise of progress and fun, for in the grim dark future there is only grinding. There is no peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of moaning and whining, and the laughter of dissapointed /edg/elords.
>complain on the forums about the grind
>point out how you'd need to farm over 2 months for one of the 3 end game ships with decent outfitting.
>Forumdads just go "uuuhmm.. you don't need these ships?" "I can do everything in my [insert low budget ship]" "these aren't even the best, just the most expensive"
SO WHAT YOU FUCKING TURBO CUNTS? IN WHAT WORLD DOES "IT'S NOT THE BEST AVAILABLE" ALSO MEAN: "THE FACT THAT YOU NEED TO PLAY E:D AS A SECOND JOB TO GET IT IS FINE AND BALANCED"?
I'm so turbo platinum fucking mad. It's Tumblr echo chamber tier over there. Everyone is just telling everyone else how everything is JUST FINE AND DANDY as george carlin would have said, and go piss on everybody who has anything negative to say on their beloved perfect unfailable game. So they end up ignoring any valid fucking opinion and just enjoy eating shit all day and asking for seconds. Fuck I love flying around in a game but god fucking damnit IT'S OK TO ADMIT WHEN SOMETHING YOU LOVE IS FLAWED IN SOME WAY. And the god damn grind is flawed as fuck.
God damn, I don't even care about the game having zero fucking content and the most terrible quests in the world. just set the price of the most expensive ships to 20mil max OR allow us to make up to 50mil an hour without wanting to kill yourself.
I.. I just really don't see why "you don't need that ship" is a valid argument for maybe the worst grind in vidya history.
RUN RARES YOU FUCKING NOOB
EVERYONE IN 1.0 RAN RARES THE OLD FASHIONED WAY
THEN WE GRINDED FOR HOURS IN TYPE 6 AND TYPE 7, TRADING THE SAME 2 STATIONS FOR DOZENS OF HOURs
YOU FUCKING LAZY SLOB GET THE FUCK OUT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>143810617
Not that guy, but really why does he have to do that? If he wants to do bounty hunting why isn't there a way for him to actually do bounty hunting to progress his way up to better fighting ships? Isn't that a serious flaw? Why are people forced to do horrible soulcrushing shit in order to finance a couple of hours of fun before having to go back to the treadmill. Is E:D a metaphor for real life? Shouldn't he be able to do what he likes in a game.
>>143811109
Only that when we did it, rares were not yet nerfed 10 times. Remember, VISION hates the notion of decent money/hour ratios.
I heard in the newest patch some rares are missing competently even. So have fun new players. I'm sitting here on a decent 600mil while that faggot a few posts up struggles to buy a Vulture. GG Brabe.
>>143811668
I'm going to be completely honest, I haven't played Elite since the update and I was just telling him what I did way back when because rares trading + bulk hauling with eddb.io were the way to go to make money. From what I heard, trying to BH in low end ships is ridiculous now.
I don't know why things are the way they are. Maybe they'll fix this shit with some hotfixes or something but I wouldn't hold my breath considering a lot of missions were fucking broken for 6+ months since Horizon dropped, and I'm willing to bet a good deal of them aren't fixed.
My advice right now to anyone wanting to play this game is to not get it for the combat and get it if you like relatively comfortable space hauling while playing some audiobooks or listening to whatever you want in the background. I was actually fiddling with the idea of dualboxing Elite and EVE and trading in Elite while keeping an eyes on my market orders in EVE.
>>143811668
The only nerf is when you drop rares and scoop them up they don't become worth full sell value.
If they nerfed rares so bad they don't even spawn though, that's fucked up but not surprising. FDEV has always hated credit per hour > 1million.
They even added the "Bulk Trade" tax to high end ships to slow down their profits. Bunch of faggot devs imo, fire sandro NOW
>>143812463
>"Bulk Trade" tax
Do a quick trade run in an Annie or T-9 or something and post a picture of the sell transaction because I seriously can't believe that.
>>143811668
>If he wants to do bounty hunting why isn't there a way for him to actually do bounty hunting to progress his way up to better fighting ships?
So fucking DO IT.
Are you fagmosaurs actually playing the game? Since 2.1 beta there's a huge increase in cop presence in hi res. You don't even need to be a hot shot, just stick with them and tag.
Just returned from my designated mob farming spot in my DBS with 2.5 mil on my tail.
That's half a Vulture.
>>143812760
trade is dead
they killed all third party tools
thrudds is dead
and the closest time window you get from eddb is 3 days
>>143813045
>being in shit zones, having to hide behind cops in order to make money
That's no decent way to life man. Not at all.
>>143813045
>using a DBS
>somehow this is relevant to a new player in a cobra or viper or even a shitfit vulture
Shut up you retard. Unless you are a fucking ACE at flying (hint: no one is) and have VR + flight sticks and joysticks and shit (hint: most people play with kb+m), then you can't do over a medium level RES as a newbie. And you make absolutely FUCK ALL money there. MAYBE 100k bounty if a python jumps in once in a while. You'd have to be in that site for 3-4 hours on average just to clear 1 million.
>>143812760
It's hidden but it works like this. Sandro confirmed this works like this and I'm not gonna dig up the threads but you can if you want.
Bring 1 tons Palladium to station with high demand, Get 1700 credit per ton profit.
Bring 400+ tons palladium with high demand, get 1200 or 1300 credit per ton because reasons.
It basically just slows down Bulk trading profit because they're dicks and hate high credit per hour. They just don't know how to balance a game.
>>143813663
How is this not relevant. There's only a 300k gap. And you only need to tag and cops do the rest, so Cobra will do.
You don't have a clue what are you talking about, dumbass.
>Unless you are a fucking ACE
Lmao, just fukken tag em, you don't have to git gud at all.
>You'd have to be in that site for 3-4 hours
2.5 mil in less than an hour. Where's your god now, daddy-o?
>>143813663
bring a scanner
>>143812463
TOP KEK I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THE BULK TRADE TAX.
Just looked it up WHEW LAD, I'm glad I didn't spend 25€ to buy the fucking Expansion this week. There is a Kitted anaconda a T7 a T9 and some combat ships on my account. I'm GLAD I didn't get back in. Fucking hell. I imagine at Frontier there are alarm bells and sirens going off "ALERT, ALERT. PEOPLE ARE COMING DANGEROUSLY CLOSE TO MAKING MONEY. EMERGENCY NERF RECOMMENDED"
Why the fuck do they hate players?
>on release trading was the only way to make money to afford ships so lots of players were trading
>instead of buffing bounty hunting and exploring to be equally rewarding they nerfed trading
>then they nerfed rare trading
>then they nerfed rare trading some more
>Hey with powerplay you can get up to 5mil a week! (30k an hour if calculated down for every hour of the week).
>oh hey you have to farm TEN THOUSAND Merits to get that
>basically play every day as much as you can until you want to kill yourself.
>even more grind with engineers.
>none of that grind is enough to buy any high end ship in any reasonable amount of time.
I just feel thoroughly shat on. I spend all that fucking time working myself up to high tier tradan ships because Frontier said "fuck you, you'll be a spacetrucker if you ever want to get anywhere" and now what's my reward? LESS profit because I'm in a bigger ship. And those faggots have the GULL of saying, qoute: "It's a mechanism used to aid price balancing for low demand, high value goods to reduce the impact of flooding markets with those goods." Instead of just fucking ADMITTING that they are AFRAID LIKE A KIKE ON REICHSKRISTALLNACHT that someone might actually make some fucking credits in the god damn game.
HAHAHA
So the AI bitch have spoken and it seems she's in full denial about l33t npc tricks.
Fix never.
>>143815397
SJA; NPCs don't cheat anon, they have the same limits as you!
>infinite ammo, never runs out
>npcs able to go faster than possible, caught on video
>npcs move out the the way of rail/plasma shot the instant you fire, 0.00s reaction time
>npcs shoot a stream of railgun rounds so fast it looks like a straight line
>npcs obviously never have to reload
>npcs shooting 1000 railgun rounds per second don't overheat or lose health from what would cook a player to death in seconds
ya nah shes either a lying cunt or too stupid to be in charge of AI.
JUST LOOK AT THIS SHIT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_6HjebZFYs
WHAT THE FUCK
>>143818012
DEY BE USING PIP MANAGEMENT DOE
DES WHY DEY TURN SO FAST
FA-OFF IS MAGIK YALL
britcuck ruined everything
>>143818012
Forgot:
>NPCs have unlimited chaf. Use it on 10 second cooldown like clockwork
Just winged up with some randoms for this bounty hunting event. We found an Anaconda with no shields and thought it would be easy money, but he wouldn't take any damage and I kept taking shots from something non-existent to my right. As we prepared to jump out and back in to fix the bug I got a message from another CMDR saying he took the guy out. I guess that only our wing had trouble.
Ended up getting killed by one of Zachary Hudsons agents in a strangely powerful Vulture, the benefits of powerplay seem completely worthless when you are constantly getting interdicted and attacked by NPCs, and your wing cant help because the NPC is clean to them. All I got when I mentioned this to other people was "That's what you get for doing powerplay", and now I feel the same way
>>143815397
Link? Was this on the forums?
>Doing USS's for RNGneer parts in my Python
>Get attacked by a pirate cobra Mk4
>Can't keep my nose on him to fire
>5 System authority jump in to help
>He takes down 4 system authority ships and knocks me down to 57% before we kill him
>12,000 bounty
>73,000 repair bill
>>143821126
>game is out since 2014
>Still no official hud colour change support
>you can change the colour but you'll fuck up the colour scheme.
HOW HARD IS IT TO HAVE A SEPERATE COLOUR OPTION FOR RADAR ICONS AND FUCKING WARNINGS?
I would LOVE to be able to change my Hud Colour WITHOUT fucking up my ability to tell the difference between friendlies, wings and hostiles, turning them all into the sameish colour because that's the only way I can get hud tone I want.
FUCK YOU frontier. One scheme for the HUD itself, one for info that's displayed on the fucking HUD.
Fucking World of Warcraft allows it's user to do code their own fucking HUD any way they like it. You can add hotkey bars up the ass if you'd like, you can build in different target frames to always see shit around you, you can make your own displays for buffs and debuffs! Hell if you want you can make it look like the Warcraft 3 Interface. Fuck, they had Interface addons where you could play Poker, chess or god damn Peggle within the god damn Interface.
AND ELITE WON'T EVEN FUCKING LET US COLOUR IT IN A DECENT FUCKING MANNER. HOW INCOMPETENT CAN YOU BE?
>>143822179
Does it fuck up the color scheme? Everything is still perfectly visible. That green one is mine and has never caused me any trouble.
I would absolutely love the ability to create your own HUD from scratch though. When I was a kid me and my best friend would spend a fuckton of time just designing spaceship cockpits and we have binders full of them.
>>143821126
Powerplay has always been shit. The one good thing about this update is that its gonna make people give up on it.
>>143822534
That one I would call "serviceable" you can kinda still see the hostiles, But what I want is that:
>shield indicator remains Blue
>space trash remains grey
>Allies remain green
>hostiles remain red
>neutrals remain orange (or maybe the new colour, this one is arguable, but I think keeping them orange would be best)
>wings to be blue
>heat warning to red
>any other flashing warning to be red
and so on. Yes you can "deal" with how it is right now, But every time I change the colour of the HUD I feel like it is not perfect now because a LOT of the colours mentioned are fucked up. I had a really nice soft blue HUD once and that kept pissing me off. receiving HEAT WARNING YOU IS ABOUT TO DIE in a soft blue tone is just not right.
The fact that such a simple thing is not in a game that has been out for so long baffles me.
But Hey, we're talking about a game that while originally promising offline singleplayer turned into an always online abomination that for Months didn't have a Party system in it and then had the FUCKING BALLS to make a big fuzz about their upcoming patch adding the ability for player to group up.
YOU BUILD AN ALWAYS ONLINE GAME AND SHIPPED IT WITHOUT THE ABILITY TO PLAY WITH YOUR FUCKING FRIENDS YOU BACKWARDS ASS TEA DRINKING FISH'N CHIPS EATING BELLENDS
Goodnight, /edg/. Until next time.
>>143822153
Things like this would be kinda cool if they were rare occurances. Imagine if you got interdicted by a small ship only to have it be an incredible pilot that actually puts your skills to the test.
Its a shame frontier cant do anything right though.
>>143824160
More colours would be nice, or maybe different shapes, diamonds for hostiles and small circles for items. It isn't horrible but it could be so much better with very little effort.
I just want to be able to turn off the item/wake indicator. Too often I'm in a dense battle in an asteroid field, maneuvering all over the place and I can't find the flashing icon of my enemy among all the markers for ore chunks, dropped loot, and used limpets. Especially with the new engineer items, I killed a python earlier and the resulting cloud of parts got in the way so fucking much.
Or a good system for everyone, items show as tiny transparent dots that don't clutter the radar but you can still easily see if you are trying to find them. If you target an item it shows up as normal, and if you open your cargo scoop or have mining lasers equipped then all items show up as normal.
>>143830794
Don't let Frontier hear you say that, they'll take all these glitchy 'skilled' NPCs and invincible ships and claim they added them as features because you, the playerbase, asked for it.
>>143830794
But that would require actual testing to make sure it worked right!
Stop being a heretic, it's unsuiting.
Since things are falling apart right now, I don't think I should keep the new secret trick of 2.1.
Join Hudson. Fit your ship with turrets. Go to military strike. You'll notice that enemy ships DO NOT MOVE OR SHOOT AT ALL. You can just go afk, let your turret do the work. Get free combat rank and shitload of merits.
>>143831501
>join hudson
Never.
>>143831634
Then pick anything else with military strike. Don't really know if this is galaxy-wide fuckup or system exclusive, though.
>>143830819
Fuck I don't even want more colours. I just want the common fucking sense to only change the HUD Base colour not the colour of the icons, indicators and warnings.
It's such a small thing too, if one of their devs ever was bored on a weekend he could shit that out while getting shitfaced.
>>143832095
Nono, don't you understand?
Programming is HARD. And just because you THINK something is easy, doesn't mean it is. That's why we pay FD loads of money. After all, they are a small studio and we need to help them every way we can.
I just bought a t-6 and fitted it for something like 1.4 million hoping to use it as a cash boat to fund a vulture but fuck me I'm regretting it. According to eddb.io the best loop anywhere near me has a little over 4k profit. I'm really hoping thats 4k profit per item and not total, and even thats low.
>>143832360
+Rep. Right on CMDR! o7
>>143832360
Programming is piss easy unless you are totally ignorant on commonly used syntax or incapable of logic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvCrs-v-Org
Oh fuck, this is happening everywhere in the galaxy. Exploit the shit out of it before they fix it.
>>143831501
Any dosh involved in this? So close to being able to afford a decent anaconda build.
I got scammed into buying this game back when it launched. I thought the alpha/beta content was... well, alpha/beta content. Not the full experience.
After launch I realized the grind wasn't going to be fixed and it'd be at least a year before any kind of content got added.
And lo and behold I stumble upon this general once more, and I see that the game only got worse with time.
>>143832779
Rank 5 pays 50 mil weekly payment. If you get enough before they patch this out, it will remain for a few more weeks.
Also this is the only way to farm combat rank w/o getting fucked up by balanced and fair AI ships... For now.
>>143833281
Wew. Sweet. Heading to Hudson now.
>>143832537
I'd argue that learning syntax and basic coding patterns is piss easy, but to call programming as a whole piss easy is just ignorant
>t. comp sci student who ended up managing a bank
So much whining. You all need to adapt to the game. Space is dangerous, and Frontier Developments has given us the best space sim in a long time. Stop grinding and just enjoy the game.
>>143834648
>bait: the post
the reason im so desperate to grind high credits is to get out of the absolutely fucking god awful fugly cobra, and those niggers at frontier refuse to make viper its equal so my only recourse is to go up to vulture
hopefully i can abuse this new military strike bug for that.
Time to go test out this gimballed Class 4 mulitcannon.
>>143834938
>hudson only has one system expanding and it's 200+ LYs away from me.
Fuck everything.
You know what I wonder? Do the Devs at any point sit down, start a new account, and just try to play their fucking game? Because I'd like to take all of them, put each in front of a PC and tell 'em they're not gonna get paid until they have a decent ship.
I'm sure Kojima can play trough Metal Gear,
I'm sure Notch can get his shit together in Minecraft
I'm sure the guys at Obsidan can make their way trough Fallout
I'm sure the guys at square can go trough Final Fantasy
I'm sure the guys at Rockstar can get trough GTA
I'm sure as FUCK that nobody at frontier actually grinds their way trough all of this shit. I'd be surprised if any of them owns anything bigger than a clipper without just having it cheated in for them.
I refuse to believe that anyone actually played this, saw they get like 10k credits reward for a quest, then saw that an Anaconda costs 150mil without any outfitting and went "this is fine. This is ok as it is"
Okay I'm actually having fun just watching shit blow up. Thanks, Anon.
watch out there's a snitch about
>>143837991
Someone at Fdev, probably Braben, heard or was told that the best way to keep people playing was to stretch out the experience. So without understanding of what that meant, Fdev has stretched out the experience. Sure, you can get that Cutter, one day.
>>143839446
Honestly, this sounds like something Sandro would come up with. He's either brain damaged or some sort of alien or skinwalker pretending to be human. his ideas are so far removed from any sort of reality of common sense that he can't possibly be a normal person.
Well, I have played for three days now in an attempt to upgrade my FSD. I scanned ships, scanned wake and went running around planets looking for rocks to shoot. I have a hold full of data, things and rocks and not one can be used for FSD, shields, engines or weapon modification. It's three days full of fucking nothing. There's no reward at the end of this tunnel that could possibly be worth it. There are too many things and every single one of them is RNG. This is worse than grinding set pieces in diablo3, at least that has some payoff in random other gear that you might use for other things and other methods of grinding the exact piece you need.
This, this is just less fun than my real job and I work in a medical facility front desk and see horrible shit all day, and I'd rather do that than this fucking nonsense grind.
That's it. I'm out.
>>143840117
VISION CLAIMS ANOTHER SOUL
>>143832769
>inb4 banned
>inb4 rollback
I know they hate players so much
>>143485568
>Dads are now claiming that the RNG crafting is too lenient
Did they add any new ships?
>>143498439
oh shit
did this update also come forxbox?
>>143839446
Like I said earlier. Doesn't help that they're sitting in an echo chamber of forumdads. Every time someone mentions how long it takes to grind an anaconda forumdads shit it up with "But it's not even the best ship!" "my Cobra can do everything an Anaconda can!" "bigger doesn't mean better".
as if that's somehow an excuse for that fucking price. (also, even if that were true, why is the fucking anaconda nearly 400 times as expensive then? eh? If it's not that much better?)
If it's not ships and you complain about some other aspect like the shitty fucking grind on powerplay that takes AGES to get to rank 5 they go: "Sorry but this is a simulation" "You don't NEED rank 5! Rank 4 is perfectly fine!" "if you don't like it why don't you go play [insert other spacegame] you fanboy of [said other spacegame]"
fuck these people. Specially the ones that justify bogus amounts of grinding with "it's a simulation" fuck those with a rake. Everyone who ever uttered "it's supposed to be a simulation" should have their unrealistic frame shift drive removed so that they can come into the genuine enjyoment of a fucking 50 lj drive. The cunts.
Only ONE thing you're allowed to bitch and moan about. When one of the Meeeean PvPers came along and blew you up and you couldn't pay for insurance (if only they cried about the money grind, then they wouldn't have insurance problems) Then and only then will the Dads include you in their Hugbox. Frontier will reimburse them their stuff and the forum dads all cry that Frontier should "do something about these horrible griefers"
I don't think there is a single game that has a more infuriating community then this game.
absolutely unbelievable
How does one become a forum dad?
I just want to enjoy this game again
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