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Been a while since we had one of these. Dead game and all. 2.1/1.6 is out. Is it worth playing yet?
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>>143485568
Not really.
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>>143485568
no
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>>143485568
Only if you're some kind of faggot that likes fun, but we chased all them kinds of people long ago.
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I really want to like this patch, anyone played it yet?
>Bookmarks for stars
>Faces for mission npcs and engies
>Mission revamp
>New huge and large guns, C4 multis!
>Tougher AI that forum dads are already crying is too hard
>anything else?
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>>143495053
> this patch
Exactly. It's a great patch, lots of qol improvements and other neat things.

But as an expastion it's pretty mediocre.
The titular feature is meh.
>DUDE ENCHANTERS LMAO
>even more grindy timesinks and RNG
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>>143497043
What's frustrating is they've stated that RNG is a core mechanic that they feel is working as intended and don't plan to change.
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>>143497631
That's not surprising when the lead designer is a literal retard.
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Damn, finding Barnacles iz hurd.
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>>143497761
I'm about to check out one of the engineers. See if any of this is worth it. The small quality of life things are neat though. With Stations looking smokey inside and the new station docking radio messages.
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>>143495053
As much as I appreciate some of the QoL improvements in this patch, I mean seriously... This is the 'huge' first Horizons content update.

>Bookmarks for stars
Should have been in the game from the very beginning.
>Faces for mission npcs and engies
Neat, I guess. A bit of immersion.
>Mission revamp
How many missions are still broken as fuck? Half of the Horizons missions have been uncompletable for the last 6 months.
>New huge and large guns, C4 multis!
Who the fuck cares. Bigger numbers. Yay.
>Tougher AI that forum dads are already crying is too hard
Gonna have to check that out. As long as ships aren't spinning around and slowly flying forward anymore it's already an improvement.
>anything else?
Nah.

Seriously, it's barely enough of a reason for me to boot up the game for the first time since December.
I'm already looking forward to how they'll be trying to sell us the next Season of 'content' come next December. The Horizons delay won't be delaying their money grab attempts, you'll see.
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>>143498196
At least the UI is way better. But yeah I just got in and there aren't any missions offering more than 110,000 creds so the grind is even worse than ever and everything feels dead.
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>>143497761
I hate their lead designer too bro. He's just buttmad that everyone hates powerplay.

>>143498196
I'm gonna check it out at least. At least they can put quality things together like the traffic control still.
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>>143498092
If you haven't played in the beta you should also notice the rework of terrain shading/textures/rocks. Roll around in a buggy a little, it's pretty good.
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>>143498621
I'm about to get to the actually. Haven't played in the beta and flew to an engineer just to find out that I don't have a landing nav thing. Whoops.
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>>143498563
>He's just buttmad that everyone hates powerplay.
Powerplay could be so fucking amazing if they just even tried to make it fun. Stop the fucking grind gameplay, give us some fun objective. Allied to a faction? Guess what, the entire space of another faction is going to hate you. No landing permission for you, have a couple of system security Anacondas.
Fuck ferrying 10 goods from A to B, go to B and kill 10 System Security ships. Kill another ship inside of a spaceport.
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>>143498439
It's a little bit better once you max the faction rep.
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>>143499082
Imagine being given fabricated transponder codes to fool a stations security and let you dock for some black market trading. You have a time limit before they are onto you and initiate a system-wide manhunt for you. That'd be some cool shit.
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>>143499323
Yeah. Seriously, it feels as if they didn't even try. 'Let's give them something to grind so they don't notice how we dropped Wings like a hot potato.'
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>>143499258
Yo famarino! Want some more grind ontop of your grinding? Awesome! Here you go! Trading is sadly still the best way to make cash. It's just so fucking boring. I'm in an anaconda thanks to that robigo exploit from way back when except I am a 100 million shy of decent outfitting so I just stopped playing.
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>>143499323
Or imagine security capships blockading a station.

I mean fucking Rebel Galaxy has this.

The station models in the game even have mailslot doors already.
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>>143499509
I was really excited for the exploration shit despite it just being moons. But then it's just fucking nothing but more grind for a chance to find the right shit for a maybe minor boost that'd last an hour. Fuck this shit.

>>143499752
Everything just feels so halfbaked like the art and design team went to town and the lead designers didn't communicate at all.
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>>143499752
It's actually funny, you could be the most hated and despised man in the universe, that has everyone as their sworn enemy, and you could perfectly travel all across inhabited space and dock wherever the fuck you want without any issues.
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>>143499914
>But then it's just fucking nothing but more grind for a chance to find the right shit for a maybe minor boost that'd last an hour. Fuck this shit.
Yep, and people in beta were so fucking proud of their Anacondas with 50 LY of jumprange while I was just shaking my head. The most fucking boring and incremental change ever.
How about they allow us to actually tailor ships towards a specific purpose? An Adder with every bit of cash and power dedicated towards the Jump Drive, wala, 250 LY jumps.
How fucking awesome would that be? Zipping across space with maybe 1T of cargo, trying to make a profit due to the distance? Getting to (salvageable) wrecks as the first person?
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Just landed. Look at that dark abyss.
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>>143500260
Looks like quality content.
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>>143500186
Or imagine some gundam tier weapon systems where you can load down your Anaconda with hundreds of missile silos and just fire a fucking wall of smoke?

There's just a lack of fun and originality. Different ship skins are bundled into fucking color packs just to upcharge the price. There's no real way to set yourself apart from anyone else and it really dashes all hopes I had for this game. How's Star Citizen looking in comparison?
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Everytime I open the map it resets to economical routing. Anyone else?
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>>143500260
Oh look. More fucking grinding just to get to the RNG bullshit.
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>>143500602
NO PLACE FOR FUN HERE
THE ORIGINAL ELITE
WASN'T FUN EITHER

Haiku just for you baby. Next up: How forum dads are ruining all of the potential this game ever had.
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Oh look I have to travel 400 LY just to have a chance of finding meta-alloys just so I can fucking try my hand at more RNG bullshit. Yeah no fuck this.
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Btw goys, are you ready for some new paid cosmetics?

How about fitting a sikk jdm spoiler to your Adder?

Only 6 shekels per item, available tomorrow!
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>>143501526
>>143501620
>>143500909
>forum dads
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>>143502953
>Not just forum dads
>Furry forum dads

I want to smash their faces into the fucking pavement.
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>>143499752
>You will never pop in at a station to find an Interdictor parked infront of the mail slot warning everyone away or else
>You will never find an outpost surrounded by a pirate minefield and one asshole pirate mine layer holding the whole place hostage for money or cargo
>You will never stumble onto a pirate fleet and capital ship in the middle of launching a sneak attack
>You will never get flagged down by militia or miners or traders needing help defending themselves against pirates/privateers/zealots
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are meta alloys random or does the barnacle site has predetermined loot?
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>>143505868
I thought they were only found with barnacles.
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Guys the mission board is missing at robigo mines
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>>143504798
>You will never try any of those things with a friend then get stuck in an empty instance anyway

In all seriousness I've missed this general so much, about the only thing that was keeping the game playable for a long time. Have some forumdad shit for your troubles.
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>>143507548
i'm at a barnacle right now and all they are dropping
>cobalt
>uraninite(?)
>iron
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>>143507673
It got UA bombed.
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>>143505868

according to the steam discussions, meta alloys are broken right now.
hardly anyone is getting them from the barnicles.
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>>143507906
Hmmmmm
some guy on the forums was grabbing hundreds of these for "safekeeping"

Also the servers are kinda bonkers right now I think I might have to end up waiting until tomorrow to get anything.
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How's large and huge multicannon?
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>>143511680
Are all of the huge weapons even in the game yet?
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>>143512132
I think yes
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So where can I buy a huge pulse laser.
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We really need another exploit to get things going. This game sucks playing fairly.
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>>143519418
>>143519252
>>143519070
>>143518896
This is some shitty art.
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>>143520154
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is this game a meme? is it worth playing? I got it as a gift on steam and played like 2 hours
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>>143521313
It's fun for the first 10-20 hours. Then the grind sets in and you slowly start to realize there's no content once you have a couple million and the next thing you know you're grinding for hours or dropping it hard.
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>>143521313

If robigo still worked you could become a billionaire overnight.
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>>143524439
You'll just have to try some other place, like Obsidian or Fehu
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>>143519635

Yeah are these from deviant art?
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>>143525139
The forumdads paid a forum artist to make these at like $15 a pop.
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>>143525997
The spaceships look decent in terms of concept art but the humans look awful.
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>>143498439
find a good system and then get cozy with the local factions, eventually you'll start seeing missions that are at least 1 mill minimum.
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Yes, goddamnit. A new EDG. And I'm not the one who made it!
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Some of the new missions can be fun when they work. A lot of them can also pay out pretty good too, missions worth 1-1.5 mill are pretty common to find.

Also, Robigo might be dead but places like Fehu and Maia still give long range smuggling missions worth multi millions.
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>>143511680
i can't even find anywhere that sells huge multis

Large Multis are fucking beat though
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>>143524439
So, Robigo LRS is officially kill?
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>>143531774
see
>>143531018
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top kek
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Why is /edg/ always full of retarded yuros?
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>>143533432
Because it's office horus in yurop.
Go to bed, amerifag.
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Has anyone else tried getting Meta-Alloys from the Barnacles?
Every one I've found is broken.
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I know the dads are complaining about the increased AI difficulty, and /edg/elords are complaining because it's more a patch than an EXPANSION!!!!111, but the 2.1 update is actually pretty fucking solid!
Elite is Dangerous again, and a lot of necessary things have been added.
Not bad, brabo. Not bad.
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So, is there ANY reason to take a C3 or C4 multicannons, at all? Or are large thermal weapons still betrter?
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>>143535114
>$0.59 has been deposited into your account
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>>143535439
C3 MCs on the top of a conda seem to track really well when gimballed, and that coupled with the minimal distributor hit from a C4 pulse actually gives you a very cheap RES setup for it.
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>>143503093
I would try to hunt these guys down, but they probably don't play open.
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>>143535974
Now that you mention it, the C3 and C4 multicannons will be far less taxing for your power than the corresponding thermal weapons. Hmm, that gives me some ideas. Perhaps I can run some beams on my conda now, backed up my armour shredding MCs
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>>143535439
I put the huge and large gimballed MCs on my conda, seems to work well.
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>>143536552
Also, you can get the MCs at LHS 20. Its got the LYR discount too.
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So, one of the highlighs on the update was that gaining faction rank has become easy. About time.
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>>143537405
>he believes they got rid of the grind
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>>143537718
I WANT TO BELIEVE
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>>143535114
But is it any good yet?
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>>143539018
It's not good, it;s better.
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So, are ships with 250LY jump a thing for real?
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>tfw weapon mod is locked behind horizon
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>>143485568
/edg/ is like fucking necrons
peeking from the tomb from time to time if anything changed
then go back to sleep after realizing nothing has changed
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>>143504310
noice
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1-3 keep fdl
4-6 get python
7-9 grind more until I can afford anaconda
0 stop playing
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>>143537957
yeah it is much easier
now you donate 120k and above good goy
you have the shekels from your previous grinds right?
surely this wont hurt your balance
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>>143543709
I've bled Robigo until it was dry.
I've got enough shekels to be free.

If that's the thing, I'll be doing that.
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>>143543946
you dare to challenge me?
for my name is Braben, forumdad of forumdads:
Look upon on my VISION, ye Mighty, and despair!
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>>143544749
FREEEEEEEEEE
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>>143545294
NOOOOOOOOOOO
I AM IN CHARGE HERE
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Hello
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>>143546051
>dead pale pink lipstick on all female npcs
why?
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>>143546189
Because in the grim darkness of the far future, there is only pink lipgloss.
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Bye thread.
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>>143547798
oi none of that, we're fine
FINE
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>>143548023
I guess this is goodbye for reals
/edg/ aint coming back in its old glory ever again
braben protects
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>>143547001
IN THE GRIM DARKNESS OF FAR FUTURE EVERYONE LOOKS LIKE A METH ADDICT
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>>143550346
It's all that low gravity and shit.
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>>143550163
Aye, these threads used to last a while. But nowadays I guess it's only dads playing the game. And they flock to Ftroop forums and plebbit.

Good night sweet prince.
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>>143550163
>>143550767
I was a fool to think we could have this paradise back.

Had a webm to post here but /vg/ is shit and doesn't allow audio
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>>143551315
post it on vola
HF33Go
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r-rip ;_;7
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>>143552114
R-Right on CMDR
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>>143531018
>>143524578
Can I just accept slaves and then sell them over and over instead of actually doing the missions?
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pity bump
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>>143507718
the known barnacles have run out of alloys. Supposedly there's a new site somewhere that has it.
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Any nice new exploits? I'm sure they fucked up something with 1.6 / 2.1.
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What an excellent update, can't land on any planet. always gets stuck on "exiting orbital cruise".
Loving this scam 2bh
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>all the forumtards getting butthurt that their fag-de-lances are melting now

I love it. Suck it you griefing fucks.
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>>143552114

Why is this general so damn slow or dead all the time?
Is Elite just that boring to most people? Is it because there's a huge amount of places to discuss the game already?
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>>143557365
I concur. The dadly tears shed by the AI being "t-too hard.."
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>>143557661
It used to be good.
What's there to discuss?
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>>143558265
Not even the new update adds any real worthwhile content. I'm just hoping for a new exploit to crop up so I can get a corvette and fuck with Forumdads.
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>>143553359
You can but you'll actually pull less money, and have a massive amount of risk in that you have to buy the slaves in the first place (getting shot down loses you loads in that case).
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>>143560427
That's more risk than the fail on-scan missions?
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>>143507906
>release engineers
>engineer wants 1t of meta alloys to befriend you
>meta-alloys are broken
>different engineer wants soontil-ma-gog
>producing faction is at war, so no soontil-ma-gog

lol
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>RNG
>more grind

How can one studio be so terrible?
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>>143543303
This
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Do I go back to a Cobra so I can land at medium landing pads or do I stick with my anaconda? I don't have enough dosh to outfit the Conda for combat too well yet.
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>>143560770
Zero overhead of credits, just a bit of time wasted. Better to take the missions and practice some evasive supercruise flying.
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>>143563535
If you want to take a medium ship you're better off grabbing a DBS/DBX or an AspE/S. Cobra is pretty meh.
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>>143564347
>>143563535
Well shit I meant a Python but I take it ASPs are still better for making dosh?
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>>143564442
If Robigo still worked (don't know how good Fehu etc are) then yeah Asp is the best ship for money making, but if you have enough for a decently outfitted Python (around 100 million) then you can multitask extremely well.
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>>143564671
I have roughly 180million creds so maybe I'll do that. Time to go find a place with a discounted Python I guess.
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>>143543303
underrated post t b h
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and fukken ded
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If you had one shot at fixing this game, what would it be?
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Are there even any new ships in the game? I quit before Horizons came out and I was flying a Python so there wasn't even reason to grind autistically for a new ship really
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>>143568265
You need a drum mag to fix this game.
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>>143568478
Corvette and Cutter.
>>143568914
Alright power play needs fixing first, let's get rid of Facebook timers.

Next?
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>>143564782
I use eddb.io, great utility. Just set the filters to Python and chinese discount man and you'll get something easy.
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>exotic female traffic controller
MUH DICK
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>>143569187
>Alright power play needs fixing first, let's get rid of Facebook timers.
Congratulations, you just made hauling powers unstoppable, enjoy every system in the game being exploited or contested by Mahon.
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>>143564671
Fehu is just fine

http://i.imgur.com/heusX8x.jpg
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>>143571010
Shame they upp'd the quantities. Can't take too many missions with you.
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Are small ships faster and more agile now?
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>>143572297
You can make them faster, yes
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>>143570879
Increase combat rewards to balance, and adjust the fortify progress bars etc.

Result is less grind, more credits per hour, less effort to participate, more reward than not participating. Fun.
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ripperoni in pastrami
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Ded general or what. Has anyone actually used an Engineer yet? Are they even worth it?
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>>143543303
UNDERRATED
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>>143581018
I'd say it just reached 1.1. It's not THAT good, but fixed lots of things.
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>booted out due to transaction server error 5 times on way back from Maia
>spend 5 minutes stuck in transition to glide from orbital cruise
>attacked by ebin SDC ganker at engineer base
>transaction server error before I can high wake
>log back in
>YOU COMBAT LOGGED
>let him kill me so I don't get KoS by half of open for combat logging
>hull health doesn't deplete at all while he's shooting
>suddenly explode
great fucking servers Fdev and great fucking mechanics that make any crash or DC in pvp make you KoS for half the playerbase.
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Are the pirate hunting missions gone in this patch?
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>new update
>decide to check out community goal
>in vulture
>see lonely wanted dropship
>attack
>spams me with missiles
>2hits my shields
>get vaporized
I don't like this what happened to my invincible shitbox?
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>>143592718
They made it so the AI isn't retarded, anything above Expert will now fly like a fairly skilled player and anything Dangerous+ will have engineer weapons.
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>>143592931
I still feel like the Vulture's shields just got useless, they used to be powerful.
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>>143594269
They added new weapons for bigger hardpoints and some of the engineer mods will rip through shields. You also actually get hit by enemy weapons in 1vs1s now.
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https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/574851e09657ba85162ffca2

>break game
>fuck it, just sell the things
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>>143595364
Should've done that from the start tbqh, the barnacle mechanics are bad
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>>143592718
>fight python in dbs
>it outturns my a fit dbs
>spams chaff with a split second cooldown
OMG PRAISE SARAH THE MASTER OF MINIONS AMIRITE XD
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Procedural generation was a mistake
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>>143597293
one of the secret engineers is trans btw
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>>143597450
Which secret engineer?
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do we have a list of all known engineers and how to access them yet?
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>soontil relics are over 300ly from the engineer that needs them
for what purpose
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The reason everyone sits in solo play instead of going into open is because no one wants to deal with their ships being blown by some dick ass faggot head who sits around ganking people for no real reason, ESPECIALLY when such ships require hours of grinding just to get the rebuy cost.

On another note, I hate the new AI, for one reason: It completely fucks new players. If you are a veteran with billions of credits who can throw ships away then you like the new AI, but if you're a newbie who can't A rank a ship, or can't even buy a good combat ship like the vulture, you are essentially instantly fucked and killed with no chance of winning a fight, even against low ranked NPCs. Oh and they all come with engineer upgrades which I think should be restricted to players only.

On another note, why is it hell to find popular builds for ships? The coriolis.io or whatever it is has the builds button grayed out and I don't know why, and there is no repository of ship builds anywhere.
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>>143597505
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>>143597293
I know someone that looks like that.
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>>143597890
The AI is fine, new players won't get hard ships spawned against them and Elite ships actually being a challenge is a good thing.

ebin gankers on the other hand are the cancer killing open, I don't mind pirates or powerplayers who at least give you a chance to surrender and some form of explanation but people who just park in CG's or Engineer bases in tricked out Cutters and kill people for no reason are cancer, its not even fun as most people who do CG's and stick around in busy areas know how to combat log and those who don't will either high wake out or be someone who will just sit there, panic and not put up a fight. Its reached a point where I only play in open for Powerplay undermining as otherwise gankers are just a nuisance that present no threat but still slow me down
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>>143597701
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>>143598404
Its honestly hard to tell if its intentional as I think they forgot to make genders affect NPC faces.
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>>143598510
Don't worry anon, the cries of the forumdads will nerf the ai a few steps backwards.

>>143598510
>crying about gankers in the thread that repeatedly set up group ganks and started the SIRA and The Crusade.
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>>143529008
what's the fucking point of having all these billions of systems if the game wants you to just camp in one or two of them

I thought elite was about roaming free in a vast universe looking for limitless opportunities
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>>143598698
At least this threads gankers don't cry on reddit and the forums when people highwake out for not playing fair and throttling down and waiting for death.
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>>143597293
gabe newell as a depeche mode band member?
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sorry /edg/
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Oh wow, there's a traffic controller now. About fucking time.
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>tfw the orbit line doesnt show up around a brown dwarf when you jump in
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Amazing, really.
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>>143601982
How the fuck did you get that message box to open? Sometimes I hear 'incoming message' but nothing shows up and I notice a little red exclamation mark in that part of the HUD but I can't seem to open that section of it with any button.
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>>143598906
>I thought elite was about roaming free in a vast universe looking for limitless opportunities

Do you know where you are right now?
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>>143603091

press 2 then use Q and E to go to messages

but sometimes I hear a message and there isnt one there, too
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>>143603627
>I have to actually use the dumb UI focus thing

Wow thats stupid. Q and E automatically work on all the other screens when I simply look at them, why the fuck should I have to use the focus thing to get it to work on the messages? Whatever. Thanks for telling me.
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>>143543303
>>143547001
>>143550346

I am enjoying these warhammer references. We really are necrons.
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>see a player FDL
>target him
>"Aisling Duval"

Every fucking time.
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>>143609540
Why is that, do you think?

What the fuck am I even supposed to fly with ~4 million
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>>143609853
>Why is that, do you think?

Because the FDL attracts faggots, hard.

Adder
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>>143610271
>Adder
>Useful for anything

Anon, pls
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>>143609853
I flew an Adder until I could outfit a Viper, and flew that until I could outfit a Vulture.
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>>143610368

Fuck you anon. I got on my feet in an Adder. Did so many 700k smuggling missions with it and didnt even know Robigo existed.
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>>143610446
Do you mean a viper mk 4 or mk 3, because the new AI changes makes mk 4 unviable for any sort of combat.
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>>143610625
>700k smuggling missions

pretty sure those dont exist anymore
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>>143610789

Well, they do but they require 80+ cargo unless you go to Robigo or something.
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>>143610991
Robigo is kill, newest patch destroyed it
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>>143610654
Whichever one is the original, this was over a year ago.
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Shit Niggas. What do? I can't even sell that one Foil card I have because I don't own a damn smartphone so the market makes me wait 15 days.
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>>143498196
>As long as ships aren't spinning around and slowly flying forward anymore it's already an improvement.
Preach it brother.
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Is it finally time for me to put away my
>ASP
or is long-range smuggling still the only decent earner in the game?
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>>143613571
>break his thrusters
>surprised when he cant move

the AI was never hard before this patch but come on.
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>>143613959
His thrusters weren't broken, he was doing that from the moment I opened fire on him, even with his shields still up. It was a well known bug anon. AI would spiral constantly until you broke fire.
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>>143611051

Try Fehu, Quince, or Maia.
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>>143613902
long range smuggling is kill, at least robigo run is.

there is basically no quick money maker anymore.


also having 6 500-ish lightyear treks I have to make (one to maia to get meta alloys, one back, one to get soontill relics, another to get back, then two to deliver to both engineers) is really fuckin bullshit.
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>>143613959
I feel like the AI could be quite difficult before actually. one on one fights are usually a cake but sometimes you get groups of enemies that are just quite strong and take you shield out in no time. And of course in the battle sites sometimes every enemy just decides to gang up on you, which kinda sucked.
And then there were just some enemies that took ages to take down. Regenerating shields at a rapid pace and Just constantly turn fighting so that it was hard to actually get some damage in while their shields were down.

>inb4 git gud
I'm not saying every enemy was challenging, I had more then my fair share of fish in a barrel, But sometimes I also had close calls.
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What's the current meme ship?
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>>143615946

It will always be the
>ASP
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>>143614562
>no quick money
Honestly that's the reason I quit their fucking game. I'm not even mad about the amount of no content in the game. (there is no real story line, no real objective, no real reason to do anything besides the eternal grind) It was the "Oh you gotta play E:D as your job in order to get an Endgame ship with top outfitting". Even when they released the fucking powerplay patch (which was also nothing more than coloured star map and the same quests we've always done now for a "faction"). You could grind their certs by killing which takes a RIDICULOUS amount of time because the game doesn't give a fuck if you kill the smallest trader there is or an anaconda you get 1 cert either way.
Or you do tradan which becomes soul crushing after about an hour, and even got worse because they removed the ability to use third party information for good prices and therefore good routes. Why? For the sole purpose of "people are making money". Fuck, when trading was the only way to make money and people complained guess what happened? A SANE company would have said "Oh, 95% of the wealthiest players are doing trade runs, maybe we should boost Bounty hunting, exploring and missing running to be more competetive with that" What did these fags do? "LEL LETS NERF TRADING AND WATCH EM SQUIRM" It's a fucking video game. Why do I need to play every day for 4 months to be able to afford one of the big ass ships? and then all the forumdads go:
>but you can just fly [trash tier budget ship]! There is no need to own an anaconda!
The point is, that in a video game that features a single player option, I should be able to upgrade my ship more frequently than my fucking car in real life.

If they made it so that I can make enough money in an evening to throw fully fitted anacondas into black holes then fuck yeah I'll re-install and buy the damn season pass.
But it seems to me they've gone the other way.
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>Release new content
>lock all of it away behind a grind wall
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>>143617563
I've made this a while ago (before they added the new ships) And it's basically what's pissing me off so much. Because while this is how the cost increase of ships looks like,(goes up strong after the courier and then absolute pants after the clipper) the increase in money earned stays steady pretty much all the way trough.
Please remember that there are a bunch of ships between the ones named here that are represented in the graph but not named because it ended up crowding the graph too much)
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They're terrified that people will realize there's nothing to do once you have a top-tier ship, but not terrified enough to actually make something to do end-game. So, instead, they make it harder to reach the end-game point.
>tfw they introduced the Cutter and Corvette with super fucking arbitrary faction grind requirements.
Guess the 400 mil I have lying around doesn't mean anything at all. It's not like any of the larger ships will give you more profit than an ASP anyway.

I really fucking wish progession wasn't just "le bigger ship" too. Give me some small ships that cost 50mil+ and some huge ship for under that much. Anything for some fucking variety.
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>>143618121
Yeah. But most importantly: GIVE ME ADEQUATE FUCKING REWARDS FOR MY FUCKING TIME YOU MONGRELS.
There is nothing worse than a game not respecting your time. I know it's supposed to have a "simulation" feel to it, But fucking hell, Pretty much every other simulation game cuts down on the super fucking boring bits.
>Euro Truck simulator makes the routes shorter than real life so that you don't literally drive straight for 6 hours but instead get navigate and deliver more
>KSP gives you time acceleration so that you don't have to wait 6 days to get to where you want to be
>racing sims let you focus on fine tuning and actual racing and don't make you sit there waiting 3 hours for the race to finish if you crash
>theme park sims don't make you wait real time construction time or close at night
>Elite Dangerous has NO PROBLEM giving you 10k credit missions when you're saving up for a ship that costs nearly 600MILLION credits.
Seriously what the fuck? And you can tell me how it's not the "best ship" till you're blue in the face. SHIT SHOULD BE OBTAINABLE WITHIN AN AMOUNT OF EFFORT THAT IS REASONABLE FOR A FUCKING VIDEO GAME.
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>>143619087
I fucking loved sim theme park as a kid.
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>new enemies spam Chaff EVERY. TEN. SECONDS.
Why not just fucking remove gimbaled weapons? That's less "more challenging" enemies and more "super fucking annoying" enemies.
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>>143619643
>tfw been using fixed beams for ages
>finally rewarded for my effort
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But what makes Elite so compelling isn’t so much about the game as the experience. It’s the tinkering with and the taking out of a performance car for a Sunday drive, not to rack up more miles, nor to break any speed limits, but to just feel the growl of the engine and the wind comb through what’s left of your hair. To remember those carefree days arched over a BBC Micro or blinking angrily into a Lenslok and to forget for a short while that you have to make 357 people redundant in the morning. Elite is a hermetically-sealed escape capsule and it’s the best there is. Hell, you could fire the game up and just sit there on a launch pad and the sounds are enough to carry you away, so strong is your ship’s presence and so absorbing are the station surroundings.

Taking off, tearing through the station entrance a little too fast and just missing a Python, angling for the next jump, scooping fuel from a blazing sun, spinning the camera around your ship to catch its best profile, starting a fight just for the hell of it, seeing smok rise from the command console, hearing the screen crack and precious oxygen escaping into space and landing back at base with seconds to spare – these are the moments that make Elite essential. Trading, missions, mining – not so much. But it’s ok, we’re not going anywhere.
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>>143620458
On certain ships I like fixed weapons as well. But there are some setups where you just need to add a gimbaled weapon. I don't mind enemies using chaf.. But every 10 seconds like clockwork? The fuck? Who programs that?
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>>143619643

>not using fire groups and having fixed weapons as a backup
>not having missiles
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>>143620572
>tips mortgage
you accidentally posted an anime gril instead of a pic of your child/pet on your HOTAS
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>>143620651
I am using firing groups. The point is that I can literally make a timer hotkey to start a countdown on screen somewhere that counts down to the next chaf use and will stay accurate from there on in for the whole time.
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>>143620572
>those are the things that make the game worthwhile.
I kinda agree with him that the actual gameplay is the best bit. so WHY IN THE NAME OF FUCK ARE YOU FORCING US INTO BORING ASS UNREWARDING FUCKFESTS OF MEDIOCRITY TO BUY FUCKING SHIPS THAT ALLOW US TO HAVE THOSE EXPERIENCES.

platinum. fucking. mad. I want to love this game so much but the grind is in all the wrong fucking places.
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>>143597062
>Has more than one chaff launcher
>Waaaah
Maybe get gud and use fixed?
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>>143621815
>some ships have retarded hardpoints that don't really allow for fixed weapons to be used efficently
>LUL JUST GIT GUD
Fuck off m8. NPCs using chaff regularly is fine. NPCs using Chaff literally on a 10 second cooldown is nothing short of fucking retarded.
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>>143617563

>they removed the ability to use third party information for good prices and therefore good routes

I don't believe you. I haven't played the game since December and I was planning on popping in to see whats new, but I actually think you're giving me the ol' razzle dazzle. There's no way Ftroop would be so brain damaged as to remove being able to find decent trade routes online.
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>>143624086
They forbid people to use third party programs that automatically scan docked ports for prices and upload them.
The only way the trader tools work right now is by manually uploading the prices, which of course results in highly outdated and inaccurate data.
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>>143624396
It's always been this way, if you thought Thrudd's or slopey's trade tools were up to the minute, you're a fucking fool.
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>>143624396
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>>143625386
Back when they started out they were updated as soon as you (or someone else who had the tool) docked somewhere. They shut that down fast as fuck and said something among the lines that they wanted to do their own API Which wasn't implemented when I was still playing, not sure if it is now.
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>just logged in at robigo
>10% fuel in my 64t tank ASP
>can no longer buy fuel
>have to wait forever for my tanks to refill
thanks fdev
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>>143626524
Do want walkable interiors.

Also when the fuck is viper mk4 getting its agility buffed, holy fuck 4/10 is atrocious, send help.
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>Interested to see what future people look like
>Custom color palettes have fucked them up more than they already are

Joleen really let herself go.
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DID THEY FUCKING NERF A-CLASS FSD CHARGE TIMES?
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>>143627946
If it was fair and fun, probably.
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>>143628345
No, seriously, I used to count down with my ASP and it took <5 seconds. It now take around 10.
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>>143627598
My color palette ain't doing that senpai
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>>143628539
As a matter of fact, I thought kicking in the fsd felt longer. But I don't see it mentioned in the patch notes?
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>>143627265
All the ships desperately need to be rebalanced, something so that they actually make sense in comparison to each other and what gear they have instead of random numbers.
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>"The AI isn't THAT bad"
>"You just need to git gud :^)"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZN_yZ07-18
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>>143630956
What the fuck just happened in that vid?
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Out of the all games i tried in VR so far this one has been by far the best one

When i tried out eurotruck i literally had to puke after 5 minutes, but with this one it's just a blast looking and flying around. It's like this game was perfectly tailored towards VR hmd's
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>>143630956
>taking a Python into a fight
You know they nerfed those into cargo ships back in 1.1 right?
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>>143633493
did you miss the part where it was obliterated within less then 2 seconds?
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What is the current go-to multipurpose ship?
I've got 250 mil to blow.
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>>143631589
He got blown up in under 3 seconds is what happened. Fuck this game. Just fuck it.
>Devs are too retarded to balance
>enemies now chaff every 10 seconds (literally. This is not "lol they chaff so much" they liteally chaff on a 10 second CD) to make gimbal useless
>little NPC Piss ships now randomly can put out laughably high DPS for that "challenging, intelligent combat experience"
>didn't remove any of the old credit grind
>in fact added some more grind because that's what this fucking game needed
>the "contend" they added with the Season pass is a fucking joke. Season pass was full price and added almost nothing. Could have bought easily 3 or 4 decent games on steam for the price.
Why even bother with this fucking game? If you want grind without content I HIGHLY recommend Progress Quest: http://progressquest.com/play/
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>>143630956
>Giving NPC's access to the High tier engineer mods along with increasing their difficulty

What the fuck was Braben thinking?
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>>143634308
Don't do multipurpose mang. Just don't. Look for the one thing you want and get a ship for that. If you want something different, get a different ship. Multi ships are just a good way to get a ship that's mediocre at two things.
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>>143630956
>It can't possibly be THAT bad
>Try conflict zone
>Infinite ammo spam, shotty gunships and phytons are back
>Infamous 'u wot m8' everyone-locks-on-me AI is back again
Why do they even let that bitch code when she can't into moderation?
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>>143634686
It's the Dark Souls of space games!
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>>143634762
Or a Russian S.T.A.L.K.E.R MOD equivalent of spess gaem. Unfinished, grindy and scrappy.
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>>143634308
Anaconda if you can afford it

otherwise Python/Asp
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Wtf is up with this Dev's obsession with grinding?

Almost all the new content released is literally locked behind another massive grind wall. Like for fucks sake, as if the initial grind to get the ship you want plus outfitting isn't enough. God forbid they throw the player base a fucking bone for once without having to spend another couple of months grinding for ingredients only to later do battle with RNG bullshit to fucking get the results you want.
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>>143634921
Don't you dare. I wish ED was the R.E.B.O.R.N. of space games. At least I would have fun then.

>>143635528
They don't know how to do anything else. That's all they had planned for the game from the start and judging by the 200 USD """"lifetime pass"""" they were offering for a short while they intend to pull at least five more seasons out of the game. You'd better believe that want the grind to take FOREVER.
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>>143635732
>Hello! beware forumdad it's a their breeding season!
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Did C3 multi-cannons just get introduced in this update? I haven't seem them before and assumed they didn't exist.
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>>143636203
>approach abandoned station
>500 unanimated middle-aged-man models fly out and one-shot you
>You cannot change vision and the brabo kick YOU out!
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>>143636849
C3 and C4.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe91PkyFlkU

>hello everybody CMDR NOBODY here
>todeh im guna sow u how new AI is.... tottly balance
>look i just beat shitty eagle and fedship without magic shottys
>i didnt upload the part where i died ;^)
>about conflict zone? lol whatever, i just uploaded this to look edgy
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