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A thread for all simulation games: racing sims, flight sims, train sims, submarine sims, tank sims, anything else sims which do not have enough traffic to sustain their own independent generals.

Extra attention grabbing search terms for example welcome sims
/fsg/ /dcsg/ /fsxg/ /bmsg/ /shg/ /rofg/ /etsg/ /il2g/ /lfsg/ /tsg/

/fsg/ Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/flightsimgeneral

/fsg/ TeamSpeak:
ts.artificialanimation.com:7997
Or whatever is on the group's profile

BMS download links
https://mega.nz/#!0BlTkazA!VUwoKAzavtJ3qIUy7lEF8D8MFjbI_Si-r6nwC3wQZYQ
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/54569phfy8au7/BMS4.33_setup
http://www.e-haf.org/PublicFTP/320/BMS_4.33/Falcon_BMS_4.33_U1_Setup.zip

Planefag pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/Zb0U61in

Silent Hunter 3 pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/jNSvhFfY

Dangerous Waters pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/qvxk755r

FPSchazly's Dangerous Waters tutorials:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOSvzqNmdX71x2COOyM-p2qHIpRNOvpGQ

Repository of various aviation related material:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3EQDvufMNdeTUh4SE9WV0txa0E&usp=drive_web


>Example of welcome sims:
Falcon BMS
DCS World
Rise of Flight
IL-2
Combat Helo
Microsoft Flight Simulator
X-Plane
Euro truck sim
Assetto Corsa
rFactor 2
Live for Speed
SAM Simulator
Steel Beasts Pro
Steel Armor: Blaze of War
Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum
Silent Hunter
Train Simulator
Farming Simulator 2015

>Example of non-welcome games:
Arm* 3
Ac* Combat
W*r Thunder
World of ____
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War Thunder
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BMS ops WHEN
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>>143340783

Why would one carry 3 R-73s instead of 4?
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Whats better silent hunter 3 with mods or silent hunter 4 with the mod for a german campaign?
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>>143340897
Silent Hunter 3 with even more mods.
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>tfw BMS ops always happen late at night in my timezone


I wish earth was a flat plane
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>>143340893
Craig , your baits are getting more and more pathetic.
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>>143340897
Silent Hunter 4 with RFB or Silent Hunter 3 with NYGM and all of the hardcoded fixes and MaGUI. I can't say anything about the german mod for SH4 as I never played that, it seems to have a good reputation though.

In general you can expect SH4 to be much more TECHNLOGY than SH3, but SH4 is also easier.
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>>143340561
What.
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are there any good WWII naval sims floating around?

I played destroyer command way back in the day and that was pretty cool but I can't get it to run on my current PC
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>>143341456
>/wtg/ being retarded

Just pretend you didn't see anything
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>>143341530
Silent Hunter 3 and 4, and you need to mod them. Or WITP, but that's a wargame. Or the Warship Gunner series if you want to vent on some arcade shit.
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>>143341530
Does it have to be WW2? Otherwise Dangerous Waters
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>>143341804
>Dangerous Waters

OPS WHEN
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>>143341551
What are they made our games are more meme then theirs?
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>>143341804


Eh, DW is mostly an anti-submarine warfare game when it comes down to it.

Flying ASW ops in the P-3 is cool, though.

>MAD, MAD, MAD!
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>>143342229
MAD MAD MAD!
>confidence: low
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>>143342229
>>143342314

I can never remember which buoys to drop when, it's fucking insane. Like, is it a VLAD here, or a DICASS there?
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>>143342889
Pretty much never VLAD. Unless you're playing int he mid atlantic
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I'm not the only one who adores doing ground attack in the MiG, am I

I dunno, I just love the idea of this stubby-winged interceptor rolling in with rockets on insurgents and shit.

Too bad external sounds on the MiG are broken
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Who has more drag: Your average american or Russian missiles at low altitude.
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>>143343674
Russian.
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>tfw 8 pyloned mig never
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Is there something like World of Warships but more simulator like?
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>>143346320
No.
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>>143346320
There was this WW1 Dreadnought "game".

It's got a working Dumaresq and an early variant of the Fire Control Table.

Pretty sure it's only a proof of concept for the programmers own enjoyment though. That was the closest I've ever seen to what you want.
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>>143346320
Mmmmmmaybe Atlantic Fleet.
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Verdun welcome here?
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>>143350084
What does it even simulate?
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>>143351825
COD WW1
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>>143351895
Does it have autism tier weapons modeling?
Does the gun jam because of dirt?
Does it even model the coriolis effect for no good reason?
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ban DCS WHEN
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>https://www.reddit.com/r/hoggit/comments/4kziv7/quick_first_impressions_of_the_thrustmaster/

10/10?
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http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2789115&postcount=152

>Starway also made new textures compatible with an updated terrain mesh T4 Caucasus map... Just give the man 3k ED you massive Jews, you're going to have to pay one of your own guys to redo the textures eventually anyway.
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>Babby Cliffs players want to play a realistic air campaign
>they don't want realistic missiles and cry balance
I don't even
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>>143354127
Kill yourself :^)
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>>143354210
>he wants to be nickel and dimed by a dev that can't even be assed to pay for work they contracted a guy to do

3 thousand dollars is nothing to ED, they spend hundreds of thousands on each flight model alone.
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>>143354394
I just laugh at them for their incompetence, and that particular cuck's stupidity.
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>>143354207
>realistic air campaign

where?
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>>143353346
Fuck off Ivan
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http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2789866&postcount=169

I don't even. From where do these people come from?
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>>143358110
Nothing wrong with it. It's absolute bullshit that the Su-27 doesn't have its datalink, even though it's available in game.
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>>143358110
>Su-27 has p2p datalink in SP, it doesn't work in MP, because hurr durr, AWACS datalink broken for years
>Also has no TTI counter even though the manual clearly shows it has one.

This is all somehow ok.
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>>143359471
I've seen servers where the Su-27 datalink (kind of) works.

The 104th used to have a GCI MP mission where enemy contacts appeared on the MFD/HDD, and anyone flying an Su-27 had a field day killing F-15s
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>>143362072
when there's an EWR or AWACS it shows up, but it starts having ghost contacts after some time, which is just fucking annoying to no end.
But in SP, you don't need an AWACS or EWR, all Su-27s in your group share what they see with their radar, of course it'd be too much work for ED to add it to MP.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmXWuRIUZ0A
Ban Mirage.
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>>143362373
looks like desync
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>>143359183
This is why you use leavu while it still works.

Shouldn't even the F-15C have a datalink as well as the MiG-29S?
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>>143362373
The mirage can take a stupid amount of missiles and still fly, razbam really need to make it so the plane isn't built out of unobtainium
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>>143365410
F-15C (the one in DCS) is a huge maybe going on whats available on the internet, mig29 has a weird one, with a GCI controller, that we'll never get in DCS anyway.
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>>143362209
I just want to know -WHERE- it fucking says that the MiG-29's HDD doesn't have the same capabilities as the Su-27's.

All I remember seeing is some guy saying "oh no the MiG-29 does not have an MFD it's just and HDD" and ED said "ok tovarish will implement ))))))))))))))"
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>>143366075
IDK anon, take a look at airwar.ru and find the manual there.
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I'm done with this fucking community.

DCS forum cucks are the worst of any game/sim I've ever played.
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Just bought il2 sturmovik 1946 on steam, I'm trying to play it with my thrustmaster hotas x but I can't even kill a stationary tank, every time I try to aim my plane bounces from side to side, any advice?
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>>143365410
The F-15C modelled ingame was not updated with datalinks until after 2004, when it got some other MFDs and shit put in as well I think.

The F-15C ingame is from the mid-90s and shouldn't have that shit.
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>>143366501
what the fuck is that retard saying
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>>143366867
He's saying that Buddy Spike should ban people for complaining about ED's shit-tastic netcode, implicitly.
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>>143366567
Stop being shit.
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>>143367206
This
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>>143362209
The issue is that it shares with all other Su-27's in your group, but you can't put multiple players in the same group for whatever reason. If they changed that the problem would be at least partially fixed.
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>>143367939
you can put players in the same group now, it still doesn't work though.
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>>143366326
Are you telling me to go rummage through a manual in russian to find this info?

I don't know russian, m8
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>>143368396
>i don't know how recognize pictures

well anon.
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>>143368484
if I could find my way to the fucking manual I would
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>>143368396
I have a 4-year degree in the fucking language and the vocabulary used in those manuals is still mostly incomprehensible to me.
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>>143368741
I just found 2 manuals on the said website, they consist of roughly 250~ jpgs of pages.

A bunch of them carry HUD symbology, no mention of an HDD/MFD though. Hell one of the manuals is literally just pictures of patterns for landing and shit
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Would you play game like Warthunder (RB and SB) focused only on jets?
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>>143370561
I dream of a Cold War Thunder, but not made by Gaijin.
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>>143370561
Only if the RB doesn't have enemy markers (but has friendly markers or not even) like in ground forces.
And if SB isn't EC only
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>>143346320
There is a fleet-level simulation game called Rule the Waves which takes place between 1900-1925

It's kind of a hybrid sim/grand strategy game, the graphics are turbotax 1994-tier but you get to design your own ships and it's a lot of fun if you're into naval history

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxSfDSSoBb4
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>he play Dangerous waters the bms of sub warfare.
Wew
Multi crew ops when?
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Post lewds.
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>>143376949
I wonder if the multi-crew craft in DCS can be used with multiple players.
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>>143377358
DW ops when?
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>>143377040
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>>143332626
Wouldn't that make the best camouflage be painting it like tarmac?

>>143342229
Whenever I touch sensors other than the camera [and even sometimes then] in the P3 I get all kinds of bullshit readings.

>tfw I'll never get a game where all I have to do is pilot the plane while other people do the cool stuff.
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>>143377040
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>>143362373
>>143365547
Tbh this bug has happened with the 29, 27, 21, 15, and m2000.
You would think that after five times they would learn a lesson.
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>buddyspike thread on ed forums


jesus, i'm glad i've given up on this shit.
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>>143383076
To be fair, Razbam isn't ED but ED should've told them what to do so their shit isn't broken. ED seems to stay fairly distant from the third party devs and don't seem to ever help at all with anything other than providing APIs.
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>>143383084
Godsplane inbound to shit the thread up even more.
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>>143377040
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>>143374713
That looks a lot like Aurora.
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>>143385442
In some ways, but it's also real-time and not the micromanagement mess that aurora is

I guess it's more like Harpoon with guns
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So this just came in the mail today.
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>You will never remove rice inna jungle

1 hour of cockpit voice recordings from hey pilots
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>>143387681
huey pilots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMcx0AdKWY0
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Anyone else find the dash 34 description of the ASEC and ASC really confusing? I don't know why they didn't include pictures.
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>>143389453
Yeah, that was the original concept for the Eagle.
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>>143389453
How do they even track?
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>>143366567
Configure properly your joystick and step on the ball, especially for ground attack.
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>>143390025
There's a little radar on the copilot's seat.
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>>143391886
But where's the emitter?
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>>143392658
On the roof.
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One spicy GBU kill coming right up
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Got em
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I think this is accurate.
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>>143394743

>tfw no DCS YF-21
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Why's DCS so addicting?
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>>143396989
because plons are neato
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tfw no dcs gunship
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>tfw no dcs girlfriend
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>>143400173
>>143399693
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>>143385690
Doing gods work.

There is some serious hero worship though.
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>real aviation will never be vaguely like ace combat
i just want complex systems mixed with actual dogfighting in aesthetically pleasing aircraft like the F-5 and F-15 instead of STEALTH STAEALTH STELELLELELth and BVR sniping.

fuck me huh.
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>>143401697
>real aviation will never be vaguely like ace combat

Who knows, maybe some madman discovers something crazy about ECM, that pretty much makes radars useless.
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>>143401697
Well all you really need is incredibly restrictive visual ID only and suddenly BVR goes out the window.

That said I doubt they'll ever make the same mistake like Vietnam. Right?
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>>143401697

But anon, your wish can already be real in the F-5

The F-5 is a product of an era where BVR was a thing that would work maybe some of the time, but ultimately radar guided missiles were seen as unreliable. So, aside from new post-production refits and the F-20, the F-5 is completely incapable of carrying any radar guided missile

as for the other aircraft, fly around with historical armament lists enforced, specifically around the early 80s/late 70s, when the AMRAAM didn't exist or existed in such small numbers that you couldn't afford to sling fucking six of them on one F-15. You still have the Sparrow, then, but sparrows are fairly easy to defeat in a head-on. Then you just drive to the merge and do your work with guns and dogfight missiles.
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>>143377040

>>143401813
minovsky particles WHEN
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>>143401813

>minovsky particles

pls
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>>143401813
They'll just make some fancy ass visual or IR sensors that will spot a squirrel from 50 miles and some missiles to go with it.
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>>143403014

Minovsky particles still trump that- they affect all electromagnetic radiation, including light

Also IR sensors are super fucking susceptible to shit like ground clutter and atmospheric conditions, especially at low level, so you'd probably have a lot more fighters cruising along at treetop level to avoid detection.
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>>143403014
Well ranging is a big issue with passive sensors.
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>>143403271
Use two sensors and you get depth perceptiony
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Blueflag ops when
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>>143402069
Unless your big into ground attack the ideal default setting of the game is like 1986

No AMRAAMS or R-77s
Every plane except the A-10C, Ka-50 and Su-33

Or 1988 if you want the F/A-18C I guess
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>>143404014
When my AMRAAMs go bulldog
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Are there any good, not-goddamn-expensive FFB sticks around?

I'm a helofag so I figure I should pick one up so can trim shit properly.
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>>143404363
Get lucky with a used one from some new dad i guess
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>>143404179
Did you mean bullfrog?
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>>143401697
In terms of ease of flying, targeting, and shooting, 6th generation will be there.

The F-35 is already edging pretty fucking close to Ace Combat levels of SA and "magic all-seeing radar", especially with how that info is presented to the pilot. At trade shows, I've literally shown elementary and middle school students how to shoot something down in only a couple minutes.
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>>143404983
now we just need to convince a country to make stupidly big superweapons
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>>143405753
BELKA WILL RISE AGAIN
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How're you supposed to dodge a fairly close range head on AMRAAM launch? The thing is basically ready to slap you on the face already by the time you manage to turn and get it to the 9-3 line and countermeasures do fuck all.
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>>143405987
I think your S-300 was supposed to have shot down the plane before you got in that situation
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>>143405987
desu AMRAAMs launched from close range are my biggest concern. There's a sweet spot for them where they're close enough that there's no way for you to kinematically defeat them, but not close enough that they're unwieldy enough to miss.
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>>143405987
You gotta just pray and make sure the missile is looking down on you. Spam countermeasures and go cold to it while snaking and hope you don't get a follow-up AIM-9 or another AIM-120
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>>143405987
drag them into the ground.
t.eagle driver who doesn't fall for the AMRAAM IS GODS MISSILE meme
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I finally did it. I got the AGM-65s to work


Now all I need is a HOTAS and a TrackIR, and about $500 in new computer components, like a CPU that isn't 5 years old.
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>>143404179
>>143404917
>pitbull

ROOOOOOO
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>>143407407
>struggling at getting mavericks to work in DCS
GL in BMS
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>>143408102
>using mavericks when there are superior options
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>>143408515
>not using guns for A2G
best option
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>>143408515

Like?
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>>143405987
You need to make the missile bleed all its speed with maneuvers. Which involves assuming he already shot and preemptively cranking and spinning, its not really realistic at all but that's how you dodge 120s in air-quake with ED's fucked missiles. You can also pull them into the ground kinda like a SAM depending on you and your opponents altitude. Take a look at mavericks flying, despite all the memeing he gets he is the best in terms of air quake. He can dodge 120's like nothing while still flying towards you by cranking and spinning while using countermeasures. Alternately you can play on the 104th until you have your spamraam sixth sense. Where your asshole puckers when the 120 comes of the bandits rail.
https://www.youtube.com/user/104thMaverick/videos
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>>143408102
Wouldn't it be exactly the same process?
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>>143408856
Uh turning them on? Switch to WPN mfd, uncage and fire?

I don't know what he's on about.
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>>143408102
>bms fags on their high horse again
It's easier than the A-10 pleb.
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>>143408984
So how about you actually try bms.
In bms you have 3 options on how to use macvericks : manualy boresight the mavericks to your tgp,create a soi with your hud in vis mode or point your aircraft nose right on the target and slew every single missile onto the target. last 2 options are easier but less reliable and forces you down to lower altitudes,but boresighting mavericks can be tedious as fuck.

>>143409314
You sure wish that eagle could carry thouse.
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>>143408984

Much more if you want to boresight them with the TGP.

>>143409314

Easier than the ones that come boresighted? I doubt it. Not that I wouldn't appreciate it if the ground crews did it for me.
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>bms fags acting like they're the shit because "bms is harder"
kek
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>>143409421
You haven't actually flown the A-10C module, have you, anon?

You can do 2/3 of those in DCS, the only thing I'm not certain about is auto-slewing everything to the nose because it seems like that'd be objectively worse than taking the time fo manually dialing in SOIs
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>>143409634

1. Who is actling like they're the shit? Not seeing it.

2. Kill ur self
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>>143409821
baited
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>>143410075

kill ur self
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>>143410202
love you too harmless
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>>143410253

kill ur self
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>>143409634
>craig getting so desperate for atention

>>143409660
bms is more picky to when you can fire your maverick while in dcs you can fire it as long as the seeker can see the target in wpn page
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>>143370561
Fuck no, that business model can go fuck itself along with everyone that supports it.
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>>143410465
I did hit a lot of civilian buildings before I got the hang of the aiming
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>>143410465
I'm sorry I shat in your cheerios senpai
go file a complaint in the TS
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>>143381408
>Wouldn't that make the best camouflage be painting it like tarmac?
No.
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>>143404983
>>143405753
Kill yourselves.
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>>143410887
a sad man once said"I think that I am happy ,but I am actually sad" his name was t.craig
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>>143401813
>>143403014
>>143403269
You're forgetting that Minovsky particles are merely a byproduct of UC's nuclear engine tech. You're also forgetting how by between 0079 and 0083 sensors got really good and long range sniping became a thing again, at least in space.
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>>143411246
y-y-you t-t-t-oo
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>>143411329
So lets be sad and shitpost together ?
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>>143411329

Here, feel better?
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>>143408698
Go back to your grave, Rudel.
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>>143411518
>F-15E
Not really.
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>>143402069
In the F-5 you just die. Both to the F-15 and to the F-35
In the F-15 barring contrived excuses for a turning battle [and even then muh viff] you die.

>>143404983
but you'll be shooting BVR, and you'll be shooting from F-35s instead of from F-5s.
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phoenix > amraam
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>>143410964
How?

Would a big chunk of "Grass" not stand out more than a big chunk of tarmac?
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>non FC3 blue flag when

What would your lineups be?
Assume the F-5 and Viggen are out already, what other aircraft that are coming out soon would work?

It'd be a lot more fun. I don't know if the mirage would fit in though.

What do you guys think.
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>>143412925
Mirage F-1 would fit pretty nicely, but it won't be flyable until Blue Flag 98.
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>>143412925
>removing 90% of the playerbase
kek
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>>143411328
From what I recall green is used when planes are assumed to operate from improvised field for a reason or another.

>tarmac
How long does a plane stay on a runway for?
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>>143413234
not dat boy.
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How do I use GBUs in Falcon bms?
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>>143413020

>implying that would be bad

kill ur self lel

>>143413013

Awww yeah, forgot about the F-1.
Would the F-1 vs the 2000 be fair?
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>>143412925
MiG-21, MiG-15, the babby cliffs planes and the F-14A might fit if you severely limit their slots and implement an inventory and salary per pilot system that makes so that you can't spam missiles like a retard because there's an actual limit on how many of them are manufactured during the span of a campaign, and there's also a limit on how many of them you can afford. But hey, you know that something like that will never happen unless you make it yourself, so why are you asking?

>>143413020
And nothing of value would be lost.
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>>143413482
F-1 vs. 2000 wouldn't be particularly fair, no, it's a generation older, doesn't have anywhere near as fancy of a radar, etc.

The difference between them is like 20 years, about as long between MiG-21bis and MIG-29
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BMS ops NOW
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>>143413234
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>>143413448
You need to set your TGP to cmbt mode
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>>143412194
I said specifically in ease of flying, targeting, and shooting. You're going to need Minovsky particles to get everything back to WVR dogfighting, but that's also assuming we don't just have laser turrets or something by then.
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>>143413448
>>143414357
And don't forget to actually turn on the laser. My past couple LGB attempts have been foiled by forgetting that laser arm is separate from master arm, despite always remembering to put the laser in combat mode.

If you mean JDAMs and not the laser guided stuff then just point them at something with the target pod or a steerpoint and drop them somewhere in the ballpark.
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Should I buy il-2 BoS&M?

It looks good, and would be more manageable for my mediocre joystick (TM T.flight) than these fancy radar equipped planes. Anyone here have experience with the latest il-2?
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>>143415264
Looks great, feels nice to fly, runs bad, not much to do.
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>>143415264
Buy CloD and use the TF patches.
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>>143412371
The phoenix has never actually hit an enemy plane, though.
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>>143415369
My rig is pretty good.

I'll give it a shot, should be better than that dying wart tinder
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What is the mil power percent for the F-16? When you press shift and f3 you get that little thing that tells you your throttle percent? I don't know what to fly at for cruising.
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>>143415264
>would be more manageable for my mediocre joystick (TM T.flight) than these fancy radar equipped planes
You only think that. Killing shit with guns is a lot harder than firing missiles with a bad stick.
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>>143415752
Just keep an eye on fuel flow and you'll figure it out.
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>>143416176
That's not an answer!
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>>143416229
It really depends on your altitude how much fuel you're actually using.
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>>143416307
Most of the missions seem to have you at 22k, or want you to be.
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>>143416420
You can get it to show you your remaining flight time through the range thingy. Any setting that gives you a bit over an hour should be fine most of the time.
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>>143415752
You can set the AB threshold in the options screen to whatever you want.

As for optimal cruise, press 5 on the UFC, then go right a few pages and one of them will be the cruise page. It'll show you the optimal altitude for cruising and other interesting stats.
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>>143416639
Is there a fuel flow I want to stay under?
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SIMG PLAYLIST

ADD SIM/PLANE RELATED MUSICS

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLGfGalIdY7AgadRWtOf0c6jagM4JVjN4&jct=Ib24nphgyv2qsV0FP_NenK5_XoXyRA
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>>143417809

BLYAT I FUCKED IT

USE THIS LINK

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLGfGalIdY7AhONvSxpUKdR-VkJ_ORHAi&jct=VFY_iiDngDLjkBfxHR3lnJZnFrDXFQ
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>>143418083
>This playlist is private.
good job, cyka
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>>143418210

SUICIDE WATCH

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLGfGalIdY7AhONvSxpUKdR-VkJ_ORHAi&jct=vvrsKmk_QOKDi4Zn3g0AL_YgC7q_YQ
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>>143415618
only when used by incompetent americans in monkey models plane
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>>143420898
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>>143420898
Pretty effective when the only international backlash is angry words if you hit something you're not supposed to.
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REDFOR:
- MiG-21
- Su-25A
- Mi-8
- Ka-50(??)

BLUEFOR
- F-5E
- A-10A
- Viggen
- UH-1
- Gazlel

Fair and Balanced???
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>>143424710
Not really, but it's still way better than the shit we have right now.
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>>143424915

How would you change it?

Not enough full red for planes. Mirage F1 eventually would help.

Mirage 2000 is too good and would body every plane on the list.
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>>143424710
Nah, the mig eats the piece of shit F-5E alive if flown by someone competent.
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>>143425146
I guess we'll find out in two months. I want to think the MiG-21 can probably take the F-5 with some careful maneuvering, maybe if it tries to keep the fight in the vertical if the F-5 gets behind it it'd be able to bleed the fucker of energy..
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>>143425049
(Maybe) the Mirage might fit as a Mirage III standin if you find a way of modding it, but it'd be yet another plane for blue unless we go for a fictional scenario. If that's the case:
Give the F-5 to REDFOR too but in extremely limited numbers, give REDFOR the Su-25T but disable the more advanced missiles (and again, in very limited quantities), remove the Ka-50 altogether and use the Gazzlel as Mi-2 armed with ATGM ersatz.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDp6S7-1wz4
I bet none of you jelly cunts can wing walk.
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BMS ops are too fucking cool, even if you get removed.
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Formation flying is so satisfying in BMS because of the netcode.
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>MiG-25 in DCS FUCKING NEEEEEEEEEEVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRR
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>>143427394
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>>143427148
I'd fucking gun you all down with one burst.
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What's a good HOTAS upgrade for the 3D Pro? X52 Pro?
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>>143427457
come on TS and lets dogfight
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>>143427758
Fuck that, I don't play GayMS.
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>>143427546
TM16kM with the separate throttle, once it comes out.
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>>143425146
Don't talk about my waifu that way
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>>143427546
Warthog, obviously.
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>>143427758
Then dont talk shit about me or my plane
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>>143427148
This reminds me that I need to practice how to play with a wingman. I always lose sight of him in combat and ww2 planes dont have radars to find him easily.
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>>143428176
>the ai flies into a mountain
Is that the fabled super amazing Falcon BMS AI in action right there?
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>>143428528
Pilots make mistakes senpai
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>>143428624
>he doesn't like fighting DCS' AI that magically know when a heater is foxed on them and start firing flares the exact goddamn instant the missile leaves the rail
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>>143428096
oh gosh, I wish.
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>>143428624
>Pilots make mistakes senpai
Yeah, right.

https://youtu.be/uU3pmXvnc0k?t=2653
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Why are there a lot of salty BMSfags here all of a sudden?
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>>143428857
woaw there f15 flying princess
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>>143425146
I don't really know much about the Viggen but couldn't it be a challenge for the MiG?

It's coming with a radar and up to 6x AIM-9s right?
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>>143428624
>Pilots make mistakes

Dos Gringos taught me that pilots never EVER make mistakes
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>>143427457
>>143428528
>>143428886
>getting desperate for replies
Cute.
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>>143346320

Only DOS games I can think of.
>Task Force 1942
>Great Naval Battles 1-5
You can man individual stations.
But they are no autism-simulators.

Also there's
>Destroyer Command
But it's p. shitty tbqh.

Also, I think there are mods for manning surface vessels for Silent Hunter.
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>implying the Mirage even has a fucking damage model

https://sugoi.vidyagam.es/qt/o1apB8K.webm
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DCS is good in theory but mediocre in practice.

So I'm stuck with SF2, which is casual as fuck.
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BMS is good in theory but mediocre in practice.

So I'm stuck with SF2, which is casual as fuck.
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>>143429841
This is also true.

>Being limited to only the Falcon cockpit
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>>143430085
Not to forget:
>having shit ai that crashes into things on its own
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>>143430294
AI in SF2 is pretty meh too

Perfect guide to never dying to another plane: Fly as slow as possible near the ground with gear down.

AI is so scared of not hitting the ground that he'll try and shoot you with his nose up and his missiles won't lock. Amusingly, sometimes he manages to hit the ground anyway.

There's a tiny chance if you're unlucky his flailing bullets might clip something you can't fix [like setting the plane on a fire that leads to explosion instead of just burning out] but it's infinitely preferable to realistic strategies involving flying at reasonable speed.
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>>143429262
that invincibility, supreme French alloy
is invulnerable toggled in?
>I was the anon complaining how webm sites don't work with (my) mobile
This site works, what a surprise
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>>143431562
Invulnerability wasn't on, it's just made of baguettium.
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helicopter ops when
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>>143435109
HUEY OPS?!

WARCRIME OPS!
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>fly the mi-8 after flying the UH-1 for awhile

damn, I forgot just how much more stable it is. Definitely prefer it desu. Also how does one use bombs on the mi-8 effectively, or is such a thing even really possible?
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>>143435337

The only thing I don't like about the Mi-8 is how the heading AP will trim the rudder pedals, and I don't know how to reset that shit.

As far as bombs go, it's probably not possible to get super accurate. I guess you could divebomb the same as a fixed wing but that get sketchy as fuck, especially on the pullout. I know in the Ka-50 you can set up the shkval and the abris up in such a way that you can level bomb shit, but that doesn't apply for the Hip ofc.
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Am I the only one who has had the IRL hawk ruined for me?

Like 5 years ago I would have saw a pic of this plane or something and said 'Oh what a cool little jet'

But ever since VEAO pushed that turd out of their development asshole I can't even have respect for the real thing now.
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>>143404363
Get lucky on eBay and bag yourself a sidewinder 2 ffb. Then mood the shit out of it if you need more buttons. I stuck a thrustmaster f16 flcs on mine.
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can we go one thread without going on a tangent about ace combat or gundam or something?
are simulation games that fucking boring
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>>143407407
You probably don't need to worry about the cpu, DCS is gpu heavy. CPU wise, it still runs on a single core.
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>>143438328
It runs on 2 cores
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>>143438192
>are simulation games that fucking boring
they wouldn't be if they weren't all shit with limited flyable plane selection.
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So apparently a MiG-25 was destroyed by ISIS in syria.

Why did the Russians have a MiG-25...
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>>143393820
>killing all that with a 500lb bomb
lol, just as bad as DCS' ground damage model only in the other direction.

Is it only IL2 that can get A2G damage right?
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