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>>142665135
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first for speed traitors
It's kind of coincidental how like in most shmups bees are evil
>>143256937
bees are evil irl too
>>143256937
Well memed my friend among the most sacred of STG cult memes.
>>143256937
What about Twinbee?
>>143256937
Such as?
>>143256906
>first for speed traitors
Has Aquas been dogging your sister or something?
>>143264474
Dodonpachi, dodonpachi daifukkatsu, dodonpachi saidaioujou...
Why are all western players such attention whores?
>>143269257
Gonna need some namedrops senpai
>>143269437
Literally every western "top-player" does streams, has a youtube channel, posts on the farm, etc
Japanese players just go to arcades and thats it.
>>143269652
Japanese players have arcades to go to
>>143269652
Whoa, literally every western top player does community things. Savages!
>>143269652
If western players didn't do that they would have no one to communicate with ya fucking dunce
>>143269652
so what ur saying is
>western "top-players" show everyone how they practice, share their replays and share information online
>Japanese top players don't want their secrets to leave their precious arcades
this is a slight against westies how?
>>143269835
Why would you need someone to communicate? Are you that desperate for attention?
>>143269962
He says while communicating with other players in a shooting game general.
>>143269962
Makes thing more fun, less lonely, more motivation. Do you think the Japanese don't communicate with others?
>>143270061
I barely post here, dick face. This site can gladly die imo.
>>143270147
They do communicate in the arcades, but they don't create jewtube channels and streams just to show off.
>>143270162
Do everyone a favour and turn that 'barely' into 'never'.
>>143270162
post your scores
>>143269962
>>143270301
address this right this instant >>143269959
>>143270301
The japanese only play in arcades to show off to their friends
>>143270384
That's bullshit. Any superplay will get attention anyway, no matter if the player has a youtube channel or not.
In contrary to western players, Japanese players are so good they get attention without even asking for it.
>De-rhy-us
>gray-dius
>>143271307
more like gaydius lmao
>>143271307
Da ree us
Grey dee us
Those are both supposed to be pronounced the Roman way, right? I imagine Gradius would be pronounced exactly like Gladius in Japanese though so I might be saying it wrong.
>>143270532
>Japanese players are so good they get attention without even asking for it.
then why do they submit their scores to magazines and have them posted on the wall of their arcades??
The need to communicate is human. Just, what the hell.
>>143273797
>pls notice me senpai
Are you a little girl?
>>143268989
... thank you for the list of evil bees in shmups.
And shmupg went full retard again, thanks. >>143269257
>>143269652
I'm out of here.
>>143274427
Sorry, we took /v/ calling us a hugbox too hard.pls come back ;-;
>>143274427
>being this sensitive
Go and hug your touhou pillow, Jaimers.
>>143271307
gradius gaiden's pronounciation of it is fucking horrible
>planet GROH-DEE-YUS
>>143269652
If not uploading on YouTube or streaming, how are you going to share recordings of your runs? Input files and replays are not as convenient, the game may not have them, or MAME could decide to desync on you.
Japs in arcades seldom stream because they're playing on a public use cab with no access to a streaming setup. As for uploading runs, many arcades prohibit players from releasing replays and ban them for doing it.
which 2hu pillow wud u hug
>>143274991
>many arcades prohibit players from releasing replays and ban them for doing it.
Perhaps if you play in fucking america, but stop pulling shit out of your arse
>>143274991
twitch tv/matmousetwitch
twitch tv/matmouse_kp
ustream.tv/channel/taito-hey
>high-bachi
>>143275575
>dankdankpachi
tfw you play for 3 hours and don't even get to stage 4 once
If you go to the arcade to play you have a lot of communication there and can afford not to give a shit about much else.
>>143274427
This place does seem like it's getting stupider. I've been coming here less often lately, too.
>>143274581
Are you kidding? This isn't a matter of "ow my feelings", some idiot is essentially asking "durr why does this genre try to have a community, they're such attention whores".
Jesus. I don't expect people to get along all the time but these arguments are reaching such moronic levels that it's almost not worth sifting through anymore.
>>143270301
God forbid the possibility of exposing new players to shmup games, spreading interest in the genre to others, and potentially helping other shmup players learn to play better or sparking their interests in other shmups to play.
Oh wait, shmup players genuinely hate new blood because of our raging elitism and endless fanbase splits between games and/or companies. Instead of maybe trying to help new players get better, let's just chastise them for not being able to meet our standards of a "good" player and discourage them from even trying to better themselves. I'm going to cut this short before it evokes the "effort vs. talent" or whatever argument that we have every two weeks here.
I try to stay positive and help people, but sometimes I just can't help but fucking hate the shmup community and its attitude towards things.
many top japanese players have little cliques that they practice and share strategies with. they don't want other people to figure out their secrets.
a lot of great japanese players stream, upload videos and post their stuff on twitter too. that nigga in this thread is retarded.
>>143276759
People don't post their scores to help others, they post them to show off, shut up Casper.
What's wrong with love pillows?
>>143277107
They can't love you back
>>143277429
But your mom can
>>143277429
Pythagoras beg to differ.
>>143277638
>Pythagoras
Fuck I meant Pygmalion.
>>143277050
You can feel free to start addressing anything that I actually said in my post.
>>143277823
Pythagoras would just get two and end up with a love triangle.
>>143278069
I already addressed your whinings. Also, not my problem if you retards are so easily baited here.
>>143279512
well memed
>>143279512
sums up the last 2 hours of this thread desu
>>143279258
You didn't, but whatever. I'm done here. The sooner this line of stupidity ends, the better.
>>143279512
>fuck off retard
Naw, more like "abloobloo why are you so dumb, this is incredible, I can't stop whining about how fucking awful you are, abloobloobloo, REEEEEEE".
I just wanted to talk about giant robotic fish
shmup culture guys
I just played Tyrian, someone on /v/ recommended I play Raptor: Call of the Shadows. Which version is best, the 94 version or the 2015 one? What are some other good Babby's first SHMUPs?
>>143280443
fuck off retard
>>143280824
>What are some other good Babby's first SHMUPs?
Cho Ren Sha 68K gives you a lot of resources and it has a shield power-up so you have a bigger room for error.
>>143280824
>playing western shit
>ever
>especially in the year 2016
how could you fuck up so badly?
This is the most retarded statement I've ever seen.
>Literally every western "top-player" does streams, has a youtube channel, posts on the farm, etc
OF FUCKING COURSE THEY DO. Because if they didn't, you wouldn't be seeing them in the first place.
In other words, if there are great western players who don't make their presence known online, you wouldn't know about their existence.
>>143281887
meant for >>143269652
>tyrian
One healthbar wasn't casual enough so we gave you two.
>>143281887
Sort of like Schrodingers cat?
>>143281887
how can great western players be real if the internet isn't real
>>143283391
If internet isn't real how can your post exist in the first place?
>>143282906
I don't know about Schrodingers cat, but my point was that you can't use something you see to prove that, that which you don't see doesn't exist.
They're simply not correlated. Things exist even when you don't see them after all. Or something like that, maybe I'm making this too complicated
wow no wonder no one comes to /vg/, you guys are all fucking faggots
>>143284712
Sort of like how you don't know whether the cats in the box or not?
>>143284716
nice cartoon
>>143284716
We have to act that way to keep the thread alive though
>>143284890
I guess you can compare it that way?
>>143289047
This hurts my eyes more than Mecha Ritz bad ending.
>>143289276
Train your eyes!
>>143280170
pls don't leave, I like your posts.
>>143273797
So is the need to shitpost.
>>143280824
Not as particularly well versed with Western-style shmups, but Cho Ren Sha, Blue Wish Resurrection+ and Batsugun Special Version are all really good for beginners. The first two are doujin games and can be found pretty easy, Batsugun Special is an arcade game but it should be in the MAME pack in the OP.
tfw you won't be ready to do runs for at least another few months. Have to get consistent on everything first.
>>143290201
Excuse me, but I haven't shitposted in my entire life.
>>143281072
Kill yourself weeaboo.
>>143291349
What sort of wacko run are you going for with that, anon?
>>143284716
Welcome to dead generals doing their best to stay afloat amidst generals that have to be remade 3-4 times a day. And besides that, all video game boards on this site are hot garbage so I don't know what you're expecting.
>>143291760
Sort of like Schrodingers Cat?
>>143291827
Dude, did you hit a time loop or something?
>>143281072
reminder to Grab Youre Joystick into the Ke-tsu-no-ana!!!
in 8 hours
This thread is shit, please make another one!
>>143292394
The thread is alive and dead at the same time like Schrodingers Cat
Is there any trick to learn to dodge in Crimzon Clover? I can't dodge for shit in this game, because the player sprite is so huge, yet the hitbox so small. I always have to keep my eyes exactly on my ship to actually see where my hitbox is, but if I do this, I can't see the bullets coming.
>>143294235
Fuck off back to /jp/, retard.
Also, that would pretty much show that shmupg is easily trolled into tomfoolery just by a few posts. You want to be better than the farm, don't you?
>>143294863
Give it 20 hours of playtime. Otherwise you may have to accept that you are talented in the negative.
>>143294863
I had this problem too, I just pretend the ship edge is the hit box now. Hell you only need precise hit box on Unlimited!
>>143294863
Get someone to feed you food when you dodge sucessfully, and you'll start drooling when you dodge successfully even without the food
>>143295039
It's not my fault CAVE ruined shmups with their retarded designs. In Battle Garegga for example, I also have no problem with dodging.
>>143294863
The glowing dot in the middle of your ship is your hitbox. Keep looking at the glowing dot until you can tell where it is without staring exactly at it.
>>143295204
Hey, it's OK man, plenty of shooting games have full-frame hitboxes.
>>143295132
I try to play the game for score, and if you play it for score, you damn well need precision in it.
>>143295204
are you kraut-kun by any chance?
>>143294863
Game does have a lot aimed shots, and you get a shitload of bombs if you're not worried about score.
>>143294863
Hitbox on Type-III is hard to see honestly. Color is similar to the sprite and you have gold stars flying everywhere
>>143295204
BLASTED CAVE, CONTINUALLY RELEASING SHMUPS WHEN EVERYONE ELSE MOVED ON. RUINED MUH DEAD GAY GENRE..
>>143295653
Of course I play it for score. CC is one of these games, where playing for survival feels wrong. Kinda like Ikaruga.
>>143295851
Or like Schrodingers Cat?
I'm pretty hyped for the incoming Kraut-kun CCWI superplay.
>>143296298
It's called Schrödinger, not Schrodinger, dumbass.
>Cave will never release a methodical masterpiece
>>143297413
You mean SDOJ?
>>143297413
Just make more bullets
anyone here know what shmup this is?
>>143297695
Looks like doujinshit.
>>143296428
not everyone has a third world keyboard bruv
>>143295558
You don't. You need accuracy to go through bullets? But CC isn't like 2hu with slow bullets, everything is fast you only need to tap slightly most of the time.
>>143300068
post ur scores
>>143300415
You first
>>143299708
>Sweden
>third world
>>143300493
>anywhere but the United States of America and Glorious Nippon
>not third world
GUys HOW DO I BEAT DODONPACHI
>>143301178
>pick C-S
>spam bomb
>win the videogame
>>143301178
shoot the enemies and avoid the bullets when they're about to hit you
>>143301178
JUST PLAY IT FOR 500 HOURS
>>143302165
This
if you can't 2-ALL with 500+ million after 500 hours it's time to reconsider life choices
>it's a "the game forces you to go through a boring first loop to get to an actual interesting difficulty instead of offering difficulty modes" episode
>>143302165
I feel like this was spoken to mock, but it's not. It's what you need to do.
>>143302341
>it's yet another "completed the first loop a million times but still manage to fuck it up terribly" episode
>>143302341
>it's a "the game punishes you for shooting in a shooting game" episode
>>143303238
>people think yagawa's games are actually good
it's the funniest joke
>finally can do perfect circles after 4 months of keyboard
ok
>>143304248
>using a memeboard
>>143304318
I only play doujin shmups!
>>143304619
i'm sorry
>>143300068
CC also has lots of slow, static bullet patterns, except for Boost mode perhaps.
>>143303238
Yagawa games don't punish you for shooting, they punish you for bad aiming, which fits very well to a shooting game. If you wouldn't shoot at all, you easily would die. It's about good aiming.
>>143305761
>he thinks that playing poorly emulated shmups at home can even remotely compare to going to the arcade to play with the japs
>>143310274
>not playing your shmups on a poorly coded n64 emulator
shit nigga its what all the superplayers do
>>143310274
>go to arcade in japan as a filthy gaijin
>entire place is staring you down
>head over and start scoring you're favorite shmup
>doing really well, just about to make the cab's leaderboard
>suddenly a hand reaches out and grabs your left hand
>can't control your ship
>try to resist but it's too late
>game over
>look slowly around the arcade
>everyone has stopped playing and is now staring straight at you
>the jap that stopped you shakes his head and slowly walks away
>someone trips you on the way out
gaijin must not score
>>143311108
>tfw it's penis inspection day at the game center
>tfw go to a jappo arcade, top the scoreboard on my first credit, then go out and fuck some jap slags
what are some good entry level shmups?
>>143320598
Games with babby modes, like Mushihimesama, or Crimzon Clover. Ikaruga is also very beginner friendly if you just play for survival at lower difficulties.
>>143320598
sdoj
>>143320598
Blue wish Resurrection plus
>>143320782
>>143320787
>>143320792
Reeee none of these are available for freee
>>143320946
blue wish resurrection plus is freeware
download mame and dodonpachi
>>143320946
If you want to emulate, you could play Battel Garegga. It's tough, but much more fair than modern danmaku garbage. Otherwise play R-Type Leo. That one is really kinda easy.
Generally play whatever you want, just stay away from Cave games, because they are just ridiculously difficult and unfair.
>>143321250
>le cave is hard meme
they have games that are baby easy and games that are impossibly hard and everything in between
cave owns bitch
>>143321567
>they have games that are baby easy
For example? I can't think of any game they have which is "easy". Even their easiest shit like Deathsmiles is already completely unfair compared to a lot of other games.
>>143321250
Are the other R-Types worth checking out?
>>143321725
esp games, guwange
>>143321725
playing deathsmiles purely for survival is easy as fuck bruv
>>143321896
Sure, if you have no problem with playing older games. R-Type is always good and also fair. It's hard but you constantly learn and make progress in it.
>>143321953
Post your 2-all scores then pls.
>>143322039
I haven't played the game much, but the later levels can get pretty ridiculous with the bullet count. May be that it is easy for pros, but it's still bullet hell, and I wouldn't recommend a bullet hell game to a beginner.
>>143291615
Imperishable Night easy 1cc
>>143321250
Battel Garegga is dope af thanks man
>>143322053
those games don't loop, retard
>>143324069
Post your 1cc then, if they are so easy.
>>143321250
The fuck? Garegga is harder to clear than most 1-all in Cave games.
>>143302793
for a 1-all? nah more like 10
>>143325790
1-Alling a game is also not clearing it, noob. No sane person would be satisfied with a 1-All.
what do yall think about ketsui?
>>143269652
>he doesn't enjoy watching streams and replays
>>143327636
>he falls for bait posted 10 hours ago
>>143327574
It's really hard.
>>143327423
Then the same should apply to garegga you retarded cunt, which had a extended mode and a harder mode. Those stuff are optional unless you are an autist.
>>143327574
Kitsui Ketsui
>>143327954
>not clearing pink sweets extended
>>143327954
2 loops are not optional. The game clearly doesn't end after the first loop, does it?
A game ends after clearing a normal mode though. You also don't see people clearing a 1st loop, and then quitting the game.
>>143327574
It's fucking gay.
Got some nice flow tho.
>>143328190
>2 loops are not optional. The game clearly doesn't end after the first loop, does it?
They are though retard, the ending of the game is shown on the first loop and Cave games stop there if you didn't meet the basement dweller requirements. Hell in other companies you can reach 2nd loop by credit-feeding and it's just referred as a "extra/special round", nothing else.
Second loops were only mean for smelly otakucks that spent $10000 on an arcade machine.
>>143328632
No, second loops are meant for people who actually play the game.
It's something totally different than optional normal or hard modes.
If you want to play a 2 loop game for score, you MUST play the second loop too.
If you want to play a game with only a single loop for score though, you can either chose to focus on normal or hard mode.
>>143328632
>>143328936
Also, notice how you only put in your initials after the second loop or when you game over.
In Battle Garegga I don't have to play 2 loops to be put in my initials without a game over.
>>143328936
>No, second loops are meant for people who actually play the game.
Funny because you can credit-feed 2nd loops in pretty much any non-cave game you cuck.
You can also play Garegga extended for a higher score if you want, but nobody does it because it seems that Garegga/raizing fans aren't as retarded as Cave fans.
>>143328140
now without the infintie bud
>>143327574
overrated meme game but it's still good
>>143329310
>Funny because you can credit-feed 2nd loops in pretty much any non-cave game you cuck.
When you credit-feed your score gets set back though. And score is pretty much what shmups are all about.
>it seems that Garegga/raizing fans aren't as retarded as Cave fans
No, they don't do it, because it's optional to do a 2 loop run. You don't have to do 2 loops in Garegga to put in your initials. 2 loops are just an optional mode on the site.
In Cave games however, 2 loops are mostly not optional. You must play 2 loops to put in your initials.
>>143330189
in cave games you can put in your initials whenever you beat a score on the in game scoreboards, which by default are low as fuck
idk wtf you're talking about bruv.
>there are anons on this thread RIGHT KNOW who use crutches like bombs, autofire and/or savestates
>>143330340
Sure if you get a game over, cause you died. That's not clearing the game though.
You have to play 2 loops to really clear the game and put in your initials.
>>143330493
or you can not meet the loop conditions, 1 all, beat the game and enter your initials
>>143330486
There's nothing wrong with bomb spamming the final boss.
>>143330493
If you're gonna get autistic about this, then the ultimate argument which destroys all other arguments, is the presence of the credit roll only after a 2-ALL.
You can all go home now.
>>143328140
>not beating ibara on unbelievable/unforgettable
>>143330641
How can you truely beat the game if you didn't even destroy the TLB?
Also this >>143330735
>>143330189
You can put your initials with a game over or a 1-all, have you even played these games retard?
>And score is pretty much what shmups are all about.
Maybe if you are a narrow-minded cuck that play like only 3 Cave games at most. In Psikyo games scoring is all about survival due to the big bonuses. Plenty of great classics didn't even have a complex scoring system, your appreciation for the genre if pretty limited if you want every game to be cave shit.
>>143330839
TLB is the least they could do for the lack of content in a second loop, not to mention in some Cave games like DOJ BL you can beat Hibachi in the first loop..
>>143330976
>>And score is pretty much what shmups are all about.
>Maybe if you are a narrow-minded cuck
no you're just a casual lmao
>>143327574
It's actually pretty cool for a Cave game, but the difficulty is too ridiculous.
>>143330976
>Maybe if you are a narrow-minded cuck
No, I'm just npot a fucking casual like you obviously. Why do you think shmup have leaderboards? Because they are about scores. With a 1-all in a 2 loop game you will never make it on the leaderboard, no matter how good your first loop is.
>your appreciation for the genre if pretty limited if you want every game to be cave shit
Who said I want every game to be cave shit? I don't even like Cave that much for a shmup company.
>>143331152
Nah i just appreciate looping tough shit like Parodius DA way more than gay memorizing from other players like chaining in DDP.
There is a reason as for why Cave dropped loops in later games like Mushi and Deathsmiles, it's a retarded concept,
>>143331527
What does even have to do with anything? Just because Parodius doesn't have deep scoring mechanics, doesn't mean the game can't be about score too.
>>143331645
parodius is definitely scoring oriented
>>143331645
Old games like that are way more about survival than score, the score just reflects how good your survival was rather than your "scoring" outside of a couple tricks.
>>143331971
They aren't any more about survival than any other shmup. More modern games just also have deeper scoring mechanics added.
Doesn't mean that old games are not about score too, though. Otherwise they wouldn't have score leaderboards like almost every other arcade game.
>>143331971
parodius have actual scoring systems, they're not really "old games" in that sense
>>143331418
again, you are missing the point narrow-minded cuck, there are many games that are more about survival than scoring, the score just reflects how good your survival was.
>>143332183
No, it#s you who is missing the point, fucktard. Just because a game doesn't have scoring mechanics as "deep" as Battle garegga or whatever, doesn't mean the game can't be about score too.
If you really like a shmup, no matter the game, your main goal will always be to be as far on the top of the leaderboard as you can. This goes for Cave games, just like Parodious, and pretty much every other arcade game. Thus they are about score, because score decides who is on the top.
>>143327574
It's the only non-shit donpatch game.
>>143332114
this, shmups were always about scoring from day 1
the space invaders craze didn't start from people trying to beat the final boss
>>143322639
you can do it! it's atleast way easier than DS!
Scoring is boring.
NMNB's are where it's at, yo.
>>143332378
You are still being a retarded narrow-minded cunt because you can't accept that score in older games is very attached to survival. Putting the score as a factor is just tradition, in these older games if you put the zone you made it to instead of the score it wouldn't be much of a difference for experienced players.
NMNB's are boring.
Scoring's where it's at, yo.
shitposting is boring.
Playing shmups is where it's at, yo.
Now you just need to bring the shmup dads over to 4chan.
>>143332695
>score in older games is very attached to survival
It isn't any more attached to survival than how more modern games attached to it. Modern games just also have deeper scoring mechanics.
>in these older games if you put the zone you made it to instead of the score it wouldn't be much of a difference for experienced players.
I know understand what you mean, but that's not really true. The scoring differences in older games may be smaller, but this only means that points count more in these games. Even plaing games as simple as R-Type can get pretty ridiculous to reach a WR score in them. Otherwise I already had a WR in it, that's for sure.
>>143333000
nice score anon
Shmups are boring.
RPGs are where it's at, yo.
>>143333000
>It isn't any more attached to survival than how more modern games attached to it.
How so? survival in most older loopers is limitless and the scoring is basic. In modern games your survival is limited to 1 or 2 loops therefore you have to entirely rely on the deeper score system.
You have a point with R-Type but that's because it has limited loops, it has llimited survival so you can exploit some score.
>tfw you will never be good enough at shmups, speedrunning, or any type of high-level gameplay
>>143333219
>survival in most older loopers is limitless
Are you now talking about games like Galaga and Space Invaders or what? Even then, in Space Invaders for example you also already had "deeper" scoring mechanics, where sniping certain enemies at a certain moment will boost up your score.
Shmups have always been about score. At least for those people who really play them seriously.
>>143333329
>tfw you will always be good at shmups and all types of high-level gameplay
>>143333329
>wanting to be good at memerunning
Only game good for speedruns is Tenchu Z
tfw no talent
>tfw can't be a shmup monk
>even Jaimers will always be bette than you
>>143333485
Not only those, but also late 80s games from fathers of verts like Toaplan.
>Shmups have always been about score. At least for those people who really play them seriously
Then have fun besting the score of someone who made it to loop 5 when you are in loop 2, after all you just have to improve your score (aka keep surviving idiot)
>>143334245
Just because your survival determines your score in games like Gradius, doesn't mean the game isn't about score.
All it means is just that survival play is synonymous for playing score in these games, but in the end it's still your score which will determine how far you make it on the leaderboard, dick head.
>>143334394
you can only improve your score if you keep surviving, the determining factor here clearly is surviving
jesus how is that so hard to understand tfor cave-cucks
>>143334394
>>143334245
Apart from this, if you don't know all the scoring tricks in games like Gradius, your score will also be much much less than the score from someone who knows these tricks, even if you made it to the same loop as this person.
>>143334582
that's right, but usually these tricks are so basic and well known that it's rare to see stuff like that happens from experienced players
>>143334503
>the determining factor here clearly is surviving
No, the determining factor is your score. You do not get a good score simply from surviving, you get a good score from shooting shit in older games. That's also a scoring mechanic. It's just not as deep as more modern mechanics.
>>143334781
I wouldn't really call a pro run of a Gradius loop "basic". Gradius high level play requires pretty intense precision and everything.
Being able to do a loop of Gradius like a pro does, ie being able to reach such a good score in a single loop, requires a shitton amount of time.
Just because these games have simpler scoring mechanics, does not mean scoring really well in them is easy.
>>143335132
you can trivialize a good scorer just by surviving, tho.
japanese mags capped the score of gradius games and other old shooters like raiden to an arbitrary score iirc, so in those cirscunstances playing for survival seems like the only way to keep at it
>>143327574
>what do yall think about ketsui?
Caves finest hour.
>>143321953
>esp games, guwange
This is why these games are so good and something cave is master of creating games that are easyish to clear but become top tier difficult when played for score, it's the same with the mushi black label original modes easy clears for survival players/ridiculously hard at high level play.
>>143307212
>Yagawa games don't punish you for shooting
Incorrect plebface, like many features he took from Gun frontier firing rate also increase rank thus why garegga players tend to have 3 fire buttons mapped one default one for 12hz or something like that and one for 30hz.
yagawa games are shit
>>143336234
Good morning banana.
>>143336129
I would like to know how the autofire rank works in Gun Frontier, it detects it once or it's variable?
Either way, the game is much more doable with autofire than without it.
>>143335404
>you can trivialize a good scorer just by surviving, tho.
You also can trivialize a good surviver by scoring. Your point?
And in the arcades these games are still about score, no matter if mags track these scores or not.
>>143336272
>assuming only bananakun thinks that
>not realizing the whole world does
raizing went out of business for a reason
nobody played his shitty cave games either
>>143336129
>firing rate also increase rank
Yes, that's why you have to aim good and know to use your resources well. It's a good mechanics more games should have.
Perhaps it punishes you for shooting, but why the hell not? It's not like shooting becomes redundant through it. Ypou still have to shoot your way through the game.
>>143336392
>raizing went out of business for a reason
What are you even doing in a shmup thread? Back to /v/ where you can talk about your modern AAA garbage.
>>143336006
>cave is master of creating games that are easyish to clear
Post your 2-alls and 1ccs then
>>143336392
raizing went out of business for the same reason cave went out of business
nobody really likes this shitty genre
>>143336308
>I would like to know how the autofire rank works in Gun Frontier, it detects it once or it's variable?
Apparently it is based on how much you fire so increasing the rate and always firing is the biggest factor for increasing it however it's not that big a deal in GF and the pros outweigh the cons so auto is favorable. The biggest rank increase in GF is the stage 2 checkpoint milk, if you do that a few times game goes nuts.
>>143336392
>>not realizing the whole world does
Garegga and batrider have had a well sized dedicated fan base for longer than any modern shmup i can think of and garegga especially just keeps growing in popularity. Ibara is simply amazing and at release was a welcome addition from superplayers who were tired of ikedas formulae the only real reason you hate his games is because you are a shit player who can't grasp them i'l bet my bollock on it. Ibara is also on of the most requested games for a port.
>>143336554
>Yes, that's why you have to aim good and know to use your resources well.
Not to be pedantic but its a bit more variable than that Krautkong, in high score runs players jack the auto fire to max in the final stage, you can see Kamui actually position next to the edge of screen holding fire to make the rank go even higher.
>>143336768
That quote is something different from what i said, we are specifically talking about esp games, Guwange and i extended it to mushi BLs because they also fit the mould.
>>143336768
>Post your 2-alls and 1ccs then
If you honestly care about this stupid nonsense well then my scoreboard input is cee/clp.
>>143337010
Stop acting as if you could tell me something about Garegga, britbong. I already cleared the game and know it inside out, dickface
And Garegga is much more fair than the usual cave game.
>>143337367
>I already cleared the game
who cares
if you didn't get a hex score you didn't really clear it
>>143337367
Observe ladies and gentlemongs, this is the Krautkuns modus operandi in action.
please stop making this thread shit
>near flawless first 3 stages
>alt+tab because need a breather and want to see if some shitposts here are salvageable
>lose all 7 lives in stage 4
You guys need to get your shit together too.
At least be somewhat funny about it.
>>143337367
Ikaruga is the fairest STG, why would you bother wasting time on shitty Cave and Yagawa when you could be playing a methodical masterpiece instead?
>>143337665
I actually agree with you on this one, but Garegga is also good.
>>143337367
>proud of a shitty low score clear
>but Cave is bullshit! even when they have more accesible clears for newcomers!
lolz
>>143337757
Not really. Garegga is shit because you have to abuse a flamingo trick and milk an invincible enemy endlessly on stage 5 to make a difference in your score.
>>143337951
My score was not low. It was ok.
And Cave is not accessible at all. 2-alling Cave games is much harder than Garegga.
>>143338071
>My score was not low. It was ok.
What was it? just curious.
>>143338071
then don't play the looping cave games if they trigger you that hard
>>143337991
The game has some flaws, true, it's not perfect, but for the time it was made, the game is just incredibly good, and it's positives easily outweight the negatives.
>>143338108
Almost 8 million. It was ok. Maybe I get back to the game later, but for now I am satisfied with it.
>>143338071
2-all is only obligatory for a top scorer, otherwise a basic clear of 1-all is enough for casual players as you showed in Garegga.
Also, Cave games with no loops still tend to be easier than Garegga (Galuda, Deathsmiles, Mushi, Mushi futari)
>>143338145
You should give Ibara a try, it's basically Garegga: Flawless Edition.
>>143338250
>Almost 8 million. It was ok.
So why so much attitude and ego when you're a beginner? I got a fucking A score which is shit years ago after a short time with the game. Feast on my britdong.
>>143338314
>2-all is only obligatory for a top scorer
No, it's obligatory for anyone who wants to clear the game.
> as you showed in Garegga
Again, in garegga the 2 loop mode is completely optional, in Cave games not.
1-alling a 2 loop game wouldn't feel like a clear to me.
>>143338465
>I got a fucking A
I don't belive one word, but I never said I am the best at the game. Just that I cleared it and know pretty much all the tricks in it.
>>143338493
What about 1-alling an infinitely looping shump? Do you still feel incomplete?
looking at the farm scoreboard and A score seems like the default for clearing garegga?
>>143338579
It's posted on farm you fucking idiot.
>>143338582
Yes, that still feels incomplete, but it still would be ok, because a game with infinite loops can never be completed, for obvious reasons.
>>143338617
No, you also can clear the game without any medaling at all.
I didn't milk much, but I medaled up to stage 6.
>>143338493
If you didn't meet the requirement for second loop you already cleared the game and put your initials, it's a basic clear but it's still a clear.
And even if you keep being a stubborn fag there are still the other games i named, which are still easier than Garegga.
>>143338654
For me, loops are more exciting because I feel more adrenaline during the second loop because I'm nervous about squandering my good first loop. It contributes to the tension of playing.
>>143338646
Your mother is posted on farm, dickface.
>>143338802
>Your mother is posted on farm, dickface.
Yeah cus she gets better scores than you, dildo baggins.
>>143338759
I personally prefer games without loops. Infinite loops are also better than 2 loops.
It's always so annyoing having to do the first loop just to get to the second loop.
>>143338741
>If you didn't meet the requirement for second loop you already cleared the game
And what if your score was "too good" and you died on second loop?
Would this mean then that you were more successful with your shit score run?
This makes no sense...
>>143339193
The requirements for second loop are usually kinda high, so if you clear the first loop with such ease it's assummed that you want a better challenge, simple logic 2bh.
If Kraut-kun hates 2-loops, why does he like R-Type?
>>143339350
>The requirements for second loop are usually kinda high
Not really... Perhaps if you want to trigger an Ura loop in Ketsui, but usually it's pretty basic afaik.
>>143339443
Just because I prefer no loops, doesn't mean I hate games with 2 loops. Nice projecting again.
>>143339350
>The requirements for second loop are usually kinda high
Only in Ketsui mate, DDP for example is very easy you can use type-c barely try and score and still qualify with ease.
>>143339605
So why do you hate Cave's 2 loop? Because you can't git gud enough to 2-all Dodonpatch?
>>143340060
because it's for pedophiles of course ;)
>>143340060
I don't hate them, I just prefer other games.
I find Cave games usually too difficult, and I don't like their style that much.
>>143340234
I felt the same when i was a beginner to.
>>143340234
But you used to call Cave games too easy, and that all it takes to clear them is "streaming from site to site and bombing whenever you fuck up". Why the sudden change of heart, Kraut-kun?
>>143341515
I don't think it has much to do with me being a "beginner" though.
Crimzon Clover for example, which is very Cave-like, is actually a game I really love.
Because it's not quite as difficult (on original at least), and the style of the game is just awesome (no animu bullshit, awesome soundtrack etc).
>>143341683
I'm pretty sure I never called them too easy. But yea, a lot of the gameplay in them is quite boring sometimes, where you just have to stream. Not really methodical.
>>143341693
Why did you leave /shmupg/ on steam?
Where is the /shmupg/ mumble server?
I want to listen to Kraut-kun and Britbong-sempai duke it out.
>>143341962
I honestly don't want to get associated with 4chan outside of 4chan.
Also, I basically only joined to do a quick shitpost there anyway.
>>143341773
Because you didn't play it seriously. If you're going for the 2-ALL or a good score, shit will get as methodical as Ikaruga.
>>143342192
>shit will get as methodical as Ikaruga
No, it won't. What I like about games like Ikaruga is, that they let you use the whole screen. You have to position yourself in all kind of places the whole time. Cave games mostly just let you stay at the bottom of the screen dodging bullets there.
Remove kraut-kun
>>143342191
Why so paranoid though? You really don't need to be.
>>143342357
I am not paranoid, I just dislike most humans, and stay rather alone. I was also tired of the dumbass who constantly posted my steam page in these threads.
>>143342528
CV1K era?
>>143342528
>these fucking spikes
>>143342453
But why? I mean who gives a shit? WHy are shmup nerds so fucking uptight thats my question desu. It's the same on farm when you get mod faggots like frenetic interfering with arguments that aren't even hostile "umum nmow c-c-cmon guys lets keep this positive and friendly cus muh safe space" fuck up you goofy fuck lord etc.
>>143342752
I honestly just to be left alone from since you guys constantly posted my steam page.
I don't like being a 4chan meme. That's why I thought it was a good idea to leave when I changed my steam name, because I remembered I just made a post on the shhmupg steam page, so I had to leave to be left alone.
>>143342939
Shame, learn to embrace the bantz.
>>143343114
I'm pretty sure a lot of the bullshit directed at me from here was more than just bantz. And most people here are just Cavefags anyway so I don't really fit in.
>thread dies again when everyone runs out of shitposts
>>143343296
So why do you keep returning if we're just a bunch of Cavefags then.
>>143344749
Because I can shitpost here.
>>143344996
whch 2hu wud u fck?
>>143344996
Enjoy getting doxed then, you fucking autistic piece of shit.
>>143345428
Who gives a fuck? Jesus christ your mentality is precisely what happens when kids shape their lives around 4chan culture, grow up you fucking pussyole.
>>143345428
Be glad I bump your threads. I would shitpost elsewhere but I sadly pretty much only play shmups
>>143345724
It's not my thread, also I would prefer if you left forever if it meant the average post quality went up.
>song 40 in mecha ritz is entire fucking arranged soundtrack
WHOA
H
O
A
>>143346701
I'm sorry, but we are here forever, anon.
>>143346721
Oh wait, it's just like four tracks clusterfucked into one.
>>143345428
>lmao git doxed faget XD
Who's the real autistic piece of shit here?
Anyone else see AVGN totally DESTROY Battle Garegga?
>I'VE GOT TO BOMB. THE FUCKING. FLAMINGOES? WHAT A SHIT LOAD OF FUCK!
>>143351001
>implying he'd ever play another shmup
Not after that silver surfer whinefest where he complains about dying in one hit and not being able to touch environmental hazards.
>>143351291
Silver Surfer looks like an obtuse game to play, one that is desperately begging for an hack with visible hitbox and clearer shots.
>>143352682
The hitbox is the entire sprite so it's pretty simple
The only problem is the extremely difficult recoveries if you die in some parts of the game. Sometimes it's almost impossible without learning a bunch of safespots.
>>143334116
>shmonk
>>143356269
Why don't you become a wise shmup eunuch to try it out, /shmupg/?
shmups with cute anime girls in it should be renamed cute 'em up, or cumups.
>>143358256
What about shmups with ugly anime girls?
>>143358603
all anime girls are equally beautiful shitlord
>>143358838
Then you can't call them cute because there's no frame of reference.
>>143359032
the reference is your fugly face
>>143359217
wow rude
>tfw can't get past stage 4 in cc arcade original
>>143358838Larsa
I can't tell if this thread is hilarious or just garbage.
>>143359939
then your doing better than me senpai
tfw practice makes worse
>>143363829
take a break man, marathoning practice doesn't work because you just play worse when you're fatigued
Well I cleared APB Normal
>>143365753
Nice! Gonna start on advanced now?
>>143367325
I am
are you working hard, /shmupg/?
>>143370759
Yes
>>143370759
Maybe after I finish my shift
>>143370759
No I'm at work and I'm probablygonna play overwatch when I get home
>>143336958
Cave went out of business after shmups died all together
Raizing went out of business in the middle of the shmup renaissance because there were so many better games to play at the time
>>143370759
I got SDOJ today, but it's really hard. ;_;
>>143373635
just wiggle dude, guaranteed no miss
STG: the STG
whenever you feel bad, remember that atleast you're better than me!
whenever you feel good, remember that you'll never be better than me!
>>143370759
You bet.
I am so close to beating the hard route in Darius Gaiden but this damn piranha keeps cockblocking me.
HERUPU
>>143370759
I'm being lazy today.
>>143377801
Why aren't you streaming DG, you nigger.
>>143382763
But I did yesterday.
I even put "playing Darius Gaiden" on twitch.
Why is he so perfect shmupg?
>>143362615
Tbh fuck that pattern
I save a double break to cheese thru it
>>143389196
Unfocus to move faster when it speeds up, and don't try to use the lock-on during the spin if you need to be moving.
>>143362615
I can't even get through stage 3. I'm pretty decent at stage 1 though and have around 500 billion when I game over.
>>143365753
3million? Do you even have to press start to get that score?
>>143394794
I didn't medal chain or do any other tricks
reminder low scoring survival-oriented runs are still better than a half-assed mediocre score with a bitch route
Can rail shooters be considered part of the shmup umbrella?
I no-missed Star Fox 64 on the red route last weekend.
>>143395737
Not really
>tfw CAVE will never produce a methodical masterpiece
>>143395621
Not really... My runs may still be shit, and it may take longer for me to 1cc the game, but as soon as I 1cced it, I will have a pretty decent route with decent score. My superplay is only a matter of time.
>>143396054
What a shame.
SDOJ is fun.Can't get to stage 3 though.
>>143398403
which sdoj wud u fug
Reminder that Kraut said he'd be top 5 in the Crimzon Clover Type 1 Original leaderboards by the middle of June.
>>143401110
Please do not bully the Kraut-chan!
The Kraut is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Kraut and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”
>>143401110
He still has some time to do it.
That means we still have some time to get popcorn.
>>143401110
what are the top 5 scores atm?
>>143402703
1. not kraut
2. not kraut
3. not kraut
4. not kraut
5. not kraut
>>143327954
Are there any good videos of these modes?
>you will never match WC's movement style on a keyboard without destroying your fingers
btfo
>>143401610
It probably gets him off anyway. You know those girls that claim to enjoy being emotionally abused? It's the same.
>>143405343
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP1LKlbvQO0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQB5HzLPZIY
>>143406292
thanks senpai
>>143401110
I'm getting there. The steam leaderboards of CC are pretty weak desu.
>>143406872
Mühsam ernährt sich das Eichhörnchen.
All this talk of Krauts made me want to kill some kikes. Are there any shmups that feature jews as the antagonist?
>>143406872
Says the guy in 83rd place
>>143408161
Touhou 10?
>>143408161
There's a half shmup where you play a not-nazi pilot. I recommend pirating it, because dev is a real shithead.
>>143408526
I'm barely into stage 3 though and make constant progress. By the time I have cleared the game, top ten should be in reach.
>>143408526
>>143408676
Also, look at my fucking breakrate. I'm literally unstoppable raping the enemy.
>>143367789
I recommend Special mode too, it's a good middle term of Normal and Advanced, and it's quite useful to practice the later bosses.
ripe
Alive
>>143408526
Lmao
ded thread
>>143395621
Define bitch route
>>143421439
Too many euroshmuppers.
>>143421439
Everyone is busy playing Sand Scorpion.
Brickwall ahead!
>tfw circular motions with a keybpard
I'm never beating Storm Causer at this rate.
Also to that anon from the last thread, the gray version of the first boss is not easy at all!
>>143428356
I always found circular motions to be relatively easy with keyboards. In fact I didn't realize it was a common issue until I started coming here.
>>143422239
what the one tripfad did in batrider
especially with a score that fucking low
Cut my life into pieces
This is my last resort
Suffocation
No breathing
Don't give a fuck if I cut my arm, bleeding
This is my last resort
Cut my life into pieces
I've reached my last resort
Suffocation
No breathing
Don't give a fuck if I cut my arm, bleeding
Do you even care if I die bleeding?
Would it be wrong?
Would it be right?
If I took my life tonight
Chances are that I might
Mutilation out of sight
And I'm contemplating suicide
'Cause I'm losing my sight
Losing my mind
Wish somebody would tell me I'm fine
Losing my sight
Losing my mind
Wish somebody would tell me I'm fine
I never realized I was spread too thin
'Till it was too late
And I was empty within
Hungry!
Feeding on chaos and living in sin
Downward spiral
Where do I begin?
It all started when I lost my Mother
No love for myself
And no love from another
Searching!
To find a lover on a higher level
Finding nothing but questions and devils
'Cause I'm losing my sight
Losing my mind
Wish somebody would tell me I'm fine
Losing my sight
Losing my mind
Wish somebody would tell me I'm fine
Nothing is alright
Nothing is fine
I'm running, and I'm cryin'
I'm cryin', I'm cryin', I'm cryin, I'm cryin'
I can't go on living this way
Cut my life into pieces
This is my last resort!
Suffocation, no breathing
Don't give a fuck if I cut my arm, bleeding
Would it be wrong? Would it be right?
If I took my life tonight
Chances are that I might
Mutilation out of sight
And I'm contemplating suicide
'Cause I'm losing my sight, losing my mind
Wish somebody would tell me I'm fine
Losing my sight, losing my mind
Wish somebody would tell me I'm fine
Nothing's alright, nothing is fine
I'm running and I'm crying
I can't go on living this way!
Can't go on
Living this way!
Nothing's all right!
>>143433895
I guarantee the Kraut listens to edgelord music like this
>>143433895
>Don't give a fuck if I cut my arm, bleeding
what does it mean?
>>143434631
it means I'm sad :(
I want to make the big dogs run with me.
>>143435653
>http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=running%20with%20the%20big%20dogs
>my fucking sides at this definition
>>143433940
Actually, I only listen to shmup music.
>>143435782
Pretty accurate, actually.
>>143331169
What do you think of the difficulty in Daioujou, Garegga, or Dangun Feveron?
>watching Kevinddr playing Garegga
Pretty painful desu, dude is complete ass at shmups.
Twinkle Star Sprites up on Steam. $8, online multiplayer. Haven't had a chance to test it, I'm at work.
hi
Hey guys, what about SDOJ?
>>143444056
plastic kusoge for bananas
>>143444056
I like maria, haven't played the game though x3
>>143444056
I want to lick every inch of Hikari's body
>>143444056
>Hey guys, what about SDOJ?
Looks like plastic after a nuclear fallout, janky annoying as fuck poorly implemented slowdown aka typical sh3 cave, pedo bullshit to pander to sad fucks and Bananafaggot likes it infact i expect he will overdose on madderall because i said it's shit.
>>143444056
Looks fun desu
>>143438586
BIG
SUPERPLAYER
DICK
Hmm, I think there are improvement to be made.
Well, shit.
why does batrider have so much slowdown
>>143456171
is stage 4 the last stage?
i got to the part where it changes music and freaks out and goes crazy but have yet to get farther
>>143459242
You still have some surprises ahead.
>start getting consistent at a pattern
>think "nice if I keep going a bit more I have this"
>fail 20 times in a row
>>143459873
sounds like fatigue
muscle memory works faster when you take breaks
So Mecha Ritz should be coming out on Steam pretty soon. I've never played it
>>143461734
You can try playing freeware version.
>>143439887
>DotEmu
SNK, please stop.
>>143439887
You can already play it online for free with fightcade, and don't have to deal with Steam's DRM cancer.
I can't get to stage 4 in Feveron.
Should I just die
>shilling your pedo dead genre game on /v/
Shame on you, /shmupg/.
>>>/v/338955925
>>143467549
Why would I want people from /v/ playing my genre? You're so silly sometimes.
Eat healthier and stay fit for a better score /shmupg/.
HYP-HYP-HYP-HYP-HYP-HYPER SYSTEM READY
>>143468817
How do I make myself asian so I can automatically be better at shmups?
shooting gay... die.....
>>143439887
>>143465847
>>143464921
Port sucks. Sound emulation fuck ups everywhere, I had bugs where my stick just stopped working for no reason (luckily only in character selection and in single player, but still) and the online has very noticeable input lag, feels like you're sliding everywhere.
The only thing they've seem to gotten right is the normal framerate. They've made NO effort to emulate slowdown at all though.
>>143475114
Also the guy I played online immediately picked Dark Ran. I know she's not crazy broken like the other secret characters, but come the fuck on
>>143475456
forgot my face
>>143475456
>my face when my opponent picks Mevious
>>143471637
Don't be racist. Only do good in your own ways.
>>143476628
But it's only racist if it's derogatory.
Asians are far more skilled STG players than whites.
kill me
>>143476849
Actually, all the best shmup players are black
>>143476849
>But it's only racist if it's derogatory.
No it isnt you thick bastard, what you are doing is positive racism which in this casecompletely undermines the effort and hard work they put in to attaining goals as you assert they are good BECAUSE they are asian when in fact they are good because they practice stupidly hard. Imagining going up to SPS and telling him his wr in ketsui is because he's asian, it's stupid as fuck. The other reason is demographics the fact is only a very small pool of white people play shmups to begin with but go look at speed running, fighters etc and its a equal mix of all races being represented at the highest level and there are a few players in the west at the top level for example Homura wr was a german and sonic wings 2 an argentinian.
>>143477808
Whatever happened to third_strike? he was a black brazillian that killed it in many games especially shikigami no shiro a few years back on farm.
>>143478047
You can't be racist against those dirty chink cunts because Asians have privilege
>>143457379
Hardware limitations, at least its well implemented and actually useful for when the game gets all rng spammy.
>>143478337
Indeed fellow /pol/ack, vote leave!
>>143478221
>black brazillian
but BR's have japanese roots
>>143478806
if that was true they'd actually be civilized
>>143477808
shut up nigger
>>143478806
>but BR's have japanese roots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq-I0JRhvt4
>>143481983
lmaooooo
Addendum to the Twinkle Star Sprites debacle: The version put out just a few months ago for the Humble NeoGeo Bundle, which DotEmu also made, is WAY better.
DotEmu, how do you fuck up this bad?
>>143478047
asians still shit on everyone in fighting games bro
>>143479498
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Brazilians
>1.4-5 million blackjaps
>>143478047
Whites are more represented in memerunning because it's something that only westerners care about. Asians are too busy dominating games that were designed to be competitive from the ground up instead of trying to force competition into games made for children.
>>143488539
>dominating games that were designed to be competitive from the ground up instead of trying to force competition into games made for children
I thought most japs don't even care about scoring.
>>143488539
how come most asians speedrun jrpg's, literally the most casual genre of all time?
>>143495026
post you're times
>>143495426
>>143471637
Most Japs suck. I'm beating them all the time on the leaderboards!
>>143495026
because speedrunning is for casuals
rip
fossilmaiden is cute!!!
>>143444056
XBox mode best SDOJ
>>143507307
>XBox
>B
>>143507859
X-Box is my favorite console!!!
Darius II for this week on HEY, naisu!
How to get consistent?
>>143509437
Consistent results through consistent play.
>>143509437
It comesnaturally.
how different is non world ignition crimzon clover and does the stg weekly still apply to world ignition
>>143512256
The American version of this game is really weird.
They released it as Sagaia in the arcades and it's an almost completely different game.
>>143513872
it's different, active lock-on multiplier increases break gauge gain a lot in WI and enemy layouts, break mode duration, etc are different
buy the superplay DLC, it comes with translated commentary on all runs that beats any stg cheaply
>tfw too much of a slow thinker to dodge
often seeing a way out right as i die and thus have another split second to study the pattern
or i just enter a brain stupor and can't do anything despite seeing something
fml
How do we earn the Deathsmiles guy back?
>>143517640
we must all pay semen tribute to casper
>>143517640
Make a CC:WI superplay.
buy me cave games on steam
>>143519187
Our boy Kraut is on that one.
>>143519456
It's nice to know he has our backs.
Which dairy us wuld u hook???
i play stinky fish!!!
>>143520501
Thanks slin
>>143517640
I can't believe you guys bulled him away like that! I liked him the most out of all the character-posters in this thread. Hell, I almost like him more than Neptunia-poster.
Please come back you guys!
>>143523125
So your favourite poster doesn't even play shmups?
>>143523125
I-I can be your Neptunia poster for the night, if you'd like...But only for the night, because Neptunia is still a load of shit.
>LITERALLY being a fucking cave secondary
>in any year
>>143523125
No one bullied him away he decided to leave on his own...
dead genre
>tfw want to play but arm is begging for mercy
>>143528663
Go for ura already, man.
rest in peace, deathsmiles anon.
and also all my webms because i reset my pc
bamp for reminding you to play TSS on fightcade because dotemu sucks
>>143537069
reminder to play the touhou versus shooters because TSS sucks
>>143528663
>>tfw want to play but arm is begging for mercy
Rest because carpal tunnel syndrome is seriously not worth it and will destroy you playing at all for months if not ever.
>Kevin(orc on a cab)DDR
>"shmups are huge"
>the pcb of battle garegga has confirmed input lag
wew
>tfw getting more consistent and better at futari ultra every single day
counterstop this summer
>>143540026
But are you gonna beat Gus' WR?
>>143540074
Gus doesn't have the WR.
>>143540014
Old news both garegga and batrider have like 3/4 frames of lag on the pcb.
>>143540118
le praise our lord and savior :DDD
>>143540118
He himself says he has the WR for 1.01, just not the clear.
>>143540162
He has a billion in 1.01 now
>>143540162
>1.01
Ah you should of clarified
Too bad literally no one else plays that beta version.
>>143540074
I don't even have 1.01 because it was 1st edition only or some shit
1.01 is dumb for score anyways, with the lanterns not cancelling anymore st4 is worth more than any other stage and st5 is worth way less despite being way harder
>>143540424
>1.01 is dumb for score anyways, with the lanterns not cancelling anymore st4 is worth more than any other stage and st5 is worth way less despite being way harder
It's no more stupider than any other shmup is for score, either all games are dumb for score or none are choose a side but you can't clarify one as being stupid on the basis of preference I mean lets reassess your perspective... Stage 4 is the highest scoring and then you enter stage 5 with survival as a priority to capitalize on what you earned in 4 as the game like all cave games ultimately rewards survival aligned with scoring so what's the problem? Why are you suggesting a formulae you prefer should be adhered to?
>>143541397
1.01 maniac's scoring system is objectively broken
>>143541510
Broken and stupid still don't correlate beyond preference as backed up by people still being willing to do it.
>>143542062
Literally only gus played 1.01 for score
>make a scoring system revolving around bullet cancels
>put barely any cancelling enemies into the final stage
Great design
>>143542742
You can't even play 1.0 Ultra without entering a code
I doubt they cared much about the late game design for a silly mode they didn't expect anyone to take seriously. Ultra's novelty wears off for most people after they die to the first island in stage 1.
>>143542742
Again still asserting your opinion as objective fact which it isn't but you are entitled to it.
>>143256738
Which version of Battle Garegga has extends every 1M points? I tried the ones in the OP but can only find dipswitches to change to every 2M.
>>143543846
Tab > Game configuration > Region > Japan
>>143543034
Reminder that they had to make a 1.01 because 1.0 was too shitty even as a joke bonus
>broken scoring
>3 out of 4 shot types are beyond useless and do very little damage
>bombs do pretty much no damage
>no hp indicators for boss forms, no bomb carriers and an impossible pattern in st4 which they ended up changing for 1.01
>so bad that they would patch your 1.0 pcb for free
Even Cave knew it was shit
>>143544060
Thanks
Thoughts on Seimitsu LS-40? I read it has a smaller deadzone than LS-32, which seems like a good thing.
why does crimzon clover stage 3 get so shit after the midboss
I mean its literally like "here have these bullshit enemies coming towards you from all sides while these little fuckers are shooting you from below you"
also the mushihimesama worms and boss's spinning laser attack are undeniably complete bullshit
>>143545296
patterns that are too difficult for me are undeniably complete bullshit
>>143545296
Use planned Breaks and Double Breaks to cancel bullets and kill enemies faster to make the hard parts reasonable, it's pretty much mandatory starting from Stage 3.
>>143545296
What do you expect from a danmaku game?
Cave philosophy is basically just "throw as many enemies and bullets at the player as possible".
>>143545870
Then everything should look like this
>>143545969
How can anyone even think this is good boss design? When something is so difficult that a death is pretty much expected, even for pro players, then it's just bullshit.
Cave-s-... oh... whoah~!
>>143548183
Now she's not just a slut, she's a 3D slut!
>>143548424
Rude, dude.
Cave-san is for cuddling and practicing shmups with, not for lewds. Try Reco-chan if you're into sluts.
>>143548770
sorry pal, cave-san is literally a prostitute now
>>143549615
How dare you she's a nice lady!
>>143550160
So, you or she?
>>143546547
The big issue with that pattern is the counter shield, you could slowly kill him with bomb spam quite easily if it wasn't for that
You die once and can't even slow down your movement for a good while, because then you activate the counter shield and get fucked
And it's even worse on 1.5 MAX
>>143552819
>1.5 MAX
I looked forward to this so much and it as nothing but a massive disappointment on all levels, just a lazy effort by Cave on all levels and the slowdown implementation is atrocious.
>>143552819
By the time he's vulnerable again the screen is already filled back up with bullets so unless you do that stupid trick there's no chance to get in any damage.
It's a really shitty boss intended only as a final fuck you to the player.
Im going to do it. Im going to go for my first 1cc. I won't play anything other than DooDooPooPee till I get it.
>>143561709
good luck anon
>>143561709
Good luck! Post in the thread if you need any help.
>>143561709
1ALL or 2?
>>143561796
>>143564093
Thanks m8s
>>143564223
1ALL
f*ck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>143564456
I TOLD YOU TO USE THOSE FUCKING BOMBS
>>143564456
>shield 01
WHAT DID YOU DOOOOOO?
>>143566826
dumb bird
>>143567016
dumb dumb poster
>>143564456
>BOMB 03
you deserve nothing less
>>143568234
i swear i used my bombs b4 dying
Fear my copy-pasting skills!
>>143569196
Nice job anon.
Cho Ren Sha could always use more love
Ok, back to shilling a freeware game.
whens mecha ritz week
quick some one bump the thread
>>143517640
>>143523125
I came back. What happened the other day came after a particularly bad day in general so I kind of just took a break from everything for a while.Plus I'm in a particularly good mood now, having just gotten this Casper card from a gacha in Gothic wa Mahou Otome.
>>143518031
Th-that's really not necessary. You don't have to.
>>143523125
>liked him the most
>almost like him more than Neptunia-poster
But that's like, a contradiction, ain't it? Anyways, >>143524884 is right.
>>143523310
>>143523810
I don't know if you guys are talking about myself or Neptunia poster here but I do streams on a weekly basis and am Rank 1 on the Casper leaderboards for Deathsmiles NA 360 port's Arcade mode and Steam's Normal mode. So... yeah, point is I play the game and I do pretty decently.
>>143569196
So, turns out, I didn't save that thing.
How the fuck does Gus have such strong resolve? After thirty minutes of continual restarting in the first two stages because of stupid mistakes and subsequently failing a semi-decent run I just stop playing and end up depressed, but he keeps on going like it's fucking nothing.
>>143577628
He has the hat
Polite reminder that score means nothing if you didn't beat the game.
Polite reminder that beating the game means nothing if you didn't beat your high score.
Polite reminder that beating the game and getting a high score mean nothing if you don't get your name in Arcadia.
Polite reminder that shmups are dead and you should play Overwatch instead.
will girls be impressed if i get a 2all?
>>143582680
No, normal people think video games are for children and junkies. You have to do something impressive like playing football.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-oEiH3DGCY
tfw you'll never be THE SHMUP MASTER
>>143577079
>tits on loli
>But that's like, a contradiction, ain't it?
That's because I can't tell who I like more anymore!
>>143561709
Played a couple credits and the farthest I've got was half way through stage 4
>>143523125
>>143523125
>liking any /shmupg/ personality besides angry Britbong-senpai and autistic Kraut-kun
Get a load of this faggot.
>>143577628
Well if it's any consolation i've just finished around 5 hrs of Guwange blue in the quest for 40 mill+ and 2 runs were guaranteed winners destroyed by idiotic mistakes, such is life. It's definitely a lot easier to do if you genuinely love the game.
Why do people hate pink sweets?
>>143577628
When I play I mostly just make it so that I try to play as long as I beat my PB. After this I make a break and come back in 30 minutes or so.
>>143523125
>liking any /shmupg/ personality besides angry Britbong-senpai and autistic Kraut-kun
Get a load of this faggot.
>>143588801
>Why do people hate pink sweets?
It's extremely unorthodox essentially a recca sequel and features some elemnts many like to consider broken or just kind of odd.
>>143588890
>play as long as
I mean to say "play until"
>>143545296
Just git fcking gud!
After midboss, focus to fast kill ground enemies on the right.
Your pic, bullets stream these flying fuckers from the left to right. The big flower will STOP shooting on certain situations, like when it's going to pass the screen. It should be dead by that moment with your lock-on. Also almost all enemies will have harmless bullets if you approach or kill them on short range.
>tfw game over only a few points away from an extend
>>143564456
Dat smug face!
>>142672507
Had a good laugh at your post while checking the archive. Have a small reward.
I want to play a shooting game on Ps3 that emphasizes special powers or abilities as much as it does the shooting aspect. Any suggestions?
>>143599237
Pokemon Red
>you will never have motivation
>>143599418
Gotcha, will emulate. Any other suggestions?
>>143599821
Neo Geo Evangelion
>>143599726
Think of the children who will sadly weep when they see your scores...
>>143599237
Theres not many stgs on ps3 desu, only ones I can think of are the ps1/2 ports, ketsui (which is outrageously expensive last time I checked ), and under defeat hd
>>143599237
Mamoru Curse or whatever it's called
What is one of the most "pump you up" first stage theme you've ever heard?
This is one of them. At least to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHQ1hlVD-5w
>>143602289
This one for sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC5ORlgOfkc
So at the suggestion of anon in /lite/ I picked up Crimzon Clover. I'm new to SHMUPs and have a few questions. The game said something about my score not being recorded due to my FPS. I didn't change anything, what's that about? I also beat the game first try, but probably used 3 continues, the bouncing ball boss caught me off guard. We're they limited or are they "insert coin" infinite continues?
>>143602289
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2lwopnr7hc
>>143602289
https://youtu.be/aT3z4k1BlDg
Alternatively:
https://youtu.be/HGRjkDijesg
>>143602396
I said first stage, not final boss.Though the true final boss theme is miles better than the final boss theme.
>>143602648
Now how did I forget about the first stage from Ikaruga?
>>143602502
>I also beat the game first try, but probably used 3 continues
What kind of joy sticks do you guys use and what kind should I be looking into. I have a fight stick that I use for fighting games is that any good?
>>143602502
I managed to get to the true final boss on my first try. Then lost horribly to it.
>>143602874
Would only have been two but like I said the bouncing balll caught me off guard. By your response though I'm guessing they are infinite arcade style continues. How does the break thing actually work? I really had no idea what was going on the entire time and was just moving around and shooting.
>>143603204
>How does the break thing actually work?
If you are really a beginner, you shouldn't even bother with it.
Playing CC seriously is just stupidly difficult. Just play an other game instead.
>>143603426
I'm really a beginner. Considering I'll probably at least play again with the other ships I'd like to know how it works...
>>143602502
>>143603204
There's something weird about how the game caps fps, restarting my computer fixes it for me.
Break is basically just a power up mode that has 2 tiers, and you fill it up by collecting the stars
Novice mode is a pretty good place to start IMO, try to clear the game without using a continue. Original mode is a pretty big step up in difficulty tho, considering the patterns are much denser and there's no free 1ups after bosses.
>>143603204
>How does the break thing actually work?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9To6ctVHI9g
>>143603781
The thing with CC is that Novice is so patheticly easy that any retard can clear it on his first try, so you really learn nothing from it.
And Arcade mode is so difficult that I an't even clear stage 3, let alone get a decent score, and I already cleared games like Battle Garegga.
It's typical danmaku, only made for complete pros basically.
>>143603961
I know it filled up as I got stars but somehow I got double break too. Can you save double break for later use? I used it right away. Is there triple break? Is there any benefit to not breaking?
So how much better is Crimzon Clover World Ignition compared to the original freeware version of the game?
>>143604451
its vastly improved but harder
>>143604607
Really now. I need to get that game. Because all this time I've been playing the freeware version of the game.
>>143604082
>only made for complete pros basically.
Makes sense, the anon that suggested it was stupid good at Gungeon. Like the best I've ever seen level good.
>>143604129
OK, get ready for barrage of guides.
>I know it filled up as I got stars
Wrong, only attacking and destroying enemies gives you break energy. Lock-ons also give energy for secondary gauge on kill.
>Can you save double break for later use? I used it right away.
If you won't use break right away or manage to fill secondary gauge while break is active.
>Is there triple break?
NO
>Is there any benefit to not breaking?
Enemies won't go apeshit on you with their bullet launchers. Best visible in Boost mode.
Also I'd recommend giving a try to doujin version since it has a few things missing in WI.
>>143604853
Thanks one last question. How do bombs work? It seemed like they were tying into the break bar somehow.
>>143605059
If your main energy gauge over certain mark but not full, you can bomb for the cost that mark shows. With each bomb, mark moves right and reset upon death and when getting certain pickup.
Now that's enough strats for you! Go get more in-game money for the super weapon.
>>143588801
It has some really weird elements to it, and it also has the worst rank spikes ygw ever made.
>>143602502
>The game said something about my score not being recorded due to my FPS. I didn't change anything, what's that about?
This is because your game wasn't running at consistent 59-60 fps, so your score wasn't uploaded to the leaderboards. This can be fixed by rebooting your PC.
>I also beat the game first try, but probably used 3 continues, the bouncing ball boss caught me off guard. We're they limited or are they "insert coin" infinite continues?
Continues are not limited, but they are exactly like "insert coin" continues. Aim to beat the game with no continues!
>>143603204
>How does the break thing actually work?
It increases your damage and makes enemies drop stars by being shot. It also allows you to lock onto more enemies, and thus get a higher multiplier.
>>143604129
>Can you save double break for later use? I used it right away. Is there triple break? Is there any benefit to not breaking?
Yes and no. Double break means that you do even more damage, can lock on to even more enemies (and thus get an even higher multiplier), and enemies drop large stars when hit. Double break is the highest it will go.
>>143605059
>How do bombs work?
If you do not have enough break gauge to break, but you are over the little line on the gauge, you will bomb instead. It just clears the screen, and maybe does enough damage to kill some popcorn and big enemies that were already weakened.
Well you guys weren't kidding arcade mode is a huge jump from novice. It's a lot more like what I was expecting and hoping for from the game. You'd think there would be a mode in-between novice and arcade.
>>143605386
>Go get more in-game money for the super weapon.
Wut? This isn't a thing right?
>>143609060
>Wut? This isn't a thing right?
After you collect so many stars you will unlock the 4th ship, which is far basically a super powered Type I. It's so powerful that the comments for the superplay say it's difficult to score with because it kills shit too fast.
>>143609302
It also takes the form of the game's true final boss.
>>143611589
True, but I usually make it look like an alt Type I.
bamp
>>143592658
>>143595534
What game? I tried googling some variations of 'mecha' and then got lazy and decided to ask instead.
>>143616351
Mecha Ritz. There's a freeware version, and an updated version coming to Steam.
>>143616351
Mecha Ritz
http://www.freem.ne.jp/win/game/8513
click the button that says 無料ゲーム 「MECHA Ritz」 のダウンロードは、ココをクリック!
>>143585598
Your eyes deceive you, she's probably the flattest girl in the game.
>play like shit
>alt-f4
>loathe self
livin the shmupper life
>>143616640
these levels seem really long.
>>143620639
>play like shit
>try again
>play like shit
>try again
>get WR
don't even start if you're not going to go all the way
>>143620639
Go to bed, MegaPulse. You'll play better tomorrow.
Bump
SDOJ operator is cute!
I failed to survive Diabolos opening, fucking game!
>>143626240
What mode?
>>143630201
Boost Arcade, in double break state.
Bullets are too sanic, I think I'll just give up and use bombs instead.
>>143630521
You definitely want to route in some bombs. I seem to recall the superplay replays bombing after bosses, so don't feel bad for having to lower the rank a bit every once in a while.
bump before bed
>>143630521
>>143630694
I used to bomb right before Diabolos to make 1st phase and the milk more manageable and get x16 with Type-Z at the start of the milk, the entire fight is long as HELL and high rank makes it all the worse.
>tfw can't 1cc because after the first death I lose all desire to play normally, try dumb suicidal shit, refuse to bomb whatsoever and gameover on stage 5 out of boredom
>>143636040
Same
>>143636040
Still better than not being to 1cc because the game you play is basically not playable except for fucking superplayers.
Thanks a lot CAVE...
>>143637825
Isn't that the draw of it?
>>143637936
No, it's not. You also can make a game too difficult, where it's just nothing but frustration anymore.
Not wonder noone plays this genre, when games merely pander to the 0.01% who actually can play these games.
>tfw can't 1cc because I'm a piece of shit
>>143638165
you can always play touhou on normal and easy
>>143639119
I'm not talking about Touhou, I'm talking about Crimzon Clover, though.
The game is basically unplayable, except you are a superplayer.
>>143639096
At least you're still better than a certain German Imperishable Night player.
>>143639219
you just have to spend some time getting used to the game so that you don't get over whelmed by the amount of objects and learn a proper route, just 1ccing the game surely doesn't require anything near superplay
>>143639361
haHAAHAhhaaHAhAhahAAHahaAhAhahAHaHaHA
>>143639219
No one is forcing you to play Crimson Clover, unless you're Kraut-kun.
You're playing it because you want to, no?
>>143639503
>You're playing it because you want to, no?
I'm playing it because it one of the only few interesting modern games to me, that's why I bought it, and started playing it.
But to me, the game could be a lot better, when it wouldn't so horribly frustratingly unfair the whole time. The difficulty in it is just ridiculous, and I'm saying although I already 1cced Battel Garegga.
>>143639609
you gotta learn from gus-sama, senpai
>>143639484
>just 1ccing the game surely doesn't require anything near superplay
Sure, if you just shoot your way through, then it might not be that hard, but if you actually try to play the game properly, Ie, try to score decently, the game is just stupidly difficult.
One just has to take a look at the leaderboards to see this, where superplayers have ridiculously high amounts of points, and noone can even remotely touch them. The leaderboard are just unbalanced as fuck, because the skill ceiling in the game is just too high, that only a very small amount of people actually can play the game.
>>143639729
I never played Moeshitsama, and also most likely never will.
>>143639817
>scoring high is difficult, so the game is broken
I guess you should go back to your methodical masterpieces where sccoring comes from surviving infinite loops without increasing difficculty
>>143640096
You really take your elitist bullshit elsewhere, especially since I'm pretty sure you acually suck dicks at the genre.
If a scoring mechanic is so unintuitive that it becomes stupidly difficult to score even remotely decently, then that's obviously a flaw.
Bump, time for sleep.
>>143639817
But superplayer scores always like that. Almost on all games their scores 3-4 times than normal players.
>>143639925
That wasn't his point.
>>143643501
>trying to bring your point acrosss to kraut-kun
get a load of this guy
>>143642920
Not at all. Perhaps in Cave games, because they are unbalanced anyway, and exactly like CC.
>>143643501
Then what exactly was his point? Is Gus good at Crimzon Clover? I think not. Just because he is decent at Moeshitsama, doesn't mean he can teach anything in other games.
Finally broke 40mill in Guwange blue, shame it wasn't a clear but alas the last boss final form gave me trolly patterns.
>>143643731
His point was you need to take notes on Gus;s mental approach to attacking a game and although you are playing something different it's inevitable that follow Guss path will lead to credible scoring.
>>143643732
Congrats.
>>143643841
Thanks I got an inp of it to but i won't really be satisfied until a 40+ clear then i'l probably send it to that inp to youtube guy if he's still around.
>>143643809
There isn't much more you can do other than practicing, and keep trying to stay focused. Everything else just comes down to natural talent.
>>143643929
A big part of it is also just finding what style of game suits you and setup aswell then go from there, I don't get on with crimzon clover either btw all the ships speeds feel horrible to me and the garish visual display combined with that fat cunt sprite just plays havoc with my eyes.
>>143644426
I wouldn't really say CC doesn't suit me. It's just stupidly difficult to score decently from stage 2 onwards. At least in Original. It's too difficult, imo, but I will keep trying anyway.
>>143644593
What you need to do is approach it with the right mental state which in your case = treat like a real life woman, you ain't getting no action without force. Unleash the inner kraut kong.
tfw you get worse faster than you improve
>>143644717
Stop telling me what to do, when you don't even play the game.
Other than autisticly memorizing every route in the game, there isn't much you can do when the scoring mechanics are this unintuitive.
post these infamous crimzon clover leaderboards you guys keep talking about. how much higher scores do super players have than the plebs?
and there's nothing wrong with that. it shows the depth of the game.
>>143645790
>Stop telling me what to do, when you don't even play the game.
Lellllll and here you go, you definitely have aspergers or some kind of autism as your ability to process context and language in general is robot tier.
>>143645661
hard game
>>143645832
>it shows the depth of the game
Just because something is difficult, doesn't mean it must have depth.
>>143645853
If you don't wanna get treated like a fucking know-it-all, then stop acting like one.
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about anyway.
>>143646186
LMAO You really are mental as fuck.
>>143646316
And you sound like an edgy teenager.
>>143646412
>"DON'T FUCKING TELL ME WHAT TO DO, I HATE PEOPLE"
No buddy YOU sound like the edgy teenager. So let me tell you what to do, stop rotting in front of the PC for a sense of control and go out into the real world before your stunted social development destroys you permanently (or before mehmet takes over), you silly plum.
>>143646646
There is nothing edgy about not wanting some random retard who has no idea what he is talking about, acting like he could tell you something.
But of course retards like you can not understand this, since you have no common sense anyway.
>>143646801
Guess i'm just not "methodical" enough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utgHIk9Q7Xo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZLrQHlbSrU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c38pCoud9yE
watch and learn kraut
>>143647114
Are you seriously this retarded to think I haven't watched replays of the game yet? Fuck off.
>>143647475
LLLLLELLL your predictable rage is amazing the only mystery is does it come from sexual frustration or did your mum beat you at Ikaruga?
>>143647615
>Lel so randum and funney
Go back to red dit you fucktard
>>143647718
But there is nothing random about you, so fucking predictable oit hurts and so autistic you can't even understand how the language is being used contextually combined with some fucking massive mummy issues or somshit fuck knows. Honest question do you come from a single mother household?
>>143616562
>>143616640
thanks, guise!
Does Mushi have slowdown when there are more bullets on the screen or is my framerate dropping?
>>143647879
>acts like a fucking retard
>gets called out for acting retarded
>"hurr you are so predictable LMAO XDXDXD"
>>143647475
then why don't you do what they do and 1cc it bitch
>>143648428
>ego defence mechanism activated
>still defecting
>>143648516
BECAUSE NO ONE TELLS HIM WHAT TO DO, FUCK OFF.
dont bully krauty he's trying to a play good game for once
>>143648716
and denounces it for being hard
>tfw Crimzon Clover is TOO methodical
>>143648716
>>143648803
So much for being methodikraut.
I just PB'ed Arcade Boost, then spaghetti on stage 5. RIP 3 bullion aaahhhhh!!!
Rate those posters:
>anon whose waifu is sanae
>anon whose waifu is that robot girl
>kraut that only plays ikaruga
>rich as fuck anon who bought dariusburst at launch
>anon who only plays shmups with cute anime girls in it
>anon who complains about shmups with cute anime girls in it
>lewdposters
>/vr/posters
>system11posters
>black anon who doesn't get any views
>anon who found a gf due to touhou
>cripplingdepressionposter
>neptuniaposter
>anon who miss neptuniaposter
>lamarposter
>>143649520
>>rich as fuck anon who bought dariusburst at launch
Where did those guys go anyway.
Where are my Darius bros at.
>>143649749
>Where did those guys go anyway.
I think most ran off cus they can't handle the bantz, back to the farm safe space they go.
>>143649520
>>anon whose waifu is that robot girl
Who?
>>143649520
I think there is more than one cripplingdepressionposter
>>143648516
Why don't you do what they do and get a WR?
Because it is too fucking difficult you fucktard.
Rate the difficulty of touhous you know well.
7 < 6 < 8
>>143650182
the one I play most is the easiest
>>143649520
>kraut that only plays ikaruga
Pretty sure I already 1cced more games than you fucking waifu retard.
>>143650358
i dont think you can 1cc skyrim
whens sugar shooter 2 week
>>143650445
There also is a thing called MAME, you know.
>>143650182
8 > 7 > 6 > 11 > 12
2 gets special mention for being cheap as fuck instadeath everywhere
>>143650529
fuck I'm a retard, replace every > with <
>>143648803
There is a difference between "hard" and just "ridiculously difficult so that only superplayers can play it".
>>143650668
Or you're just a really shitty player
>>143650182
I heard 6 is the hardest, because it has rank. Next is 12.
>>143651141
the rank in 6 is maxed out almost all the time and the first 3 stages are pretty easy, if we're jsut talking about a vanilla 1cc on lunati I don't think it's the hardest
>>143650825
No, the leaderboards of the game only prove my point.
When you look at games like Battel Garegga, for example you also have many western players who are quite decent at it, but in CC even people like Jaimers have a score which is pathetic compared to the top score.
>>143651484
jaimers also has pathetic scores in touhou, touhou is harder confirmed?
>>143651769
That backlog of doujin kusoge is a harsh mistress
>>143651769
I don't care if Touhou is hard, it's just another generic danmaku game. Maybe that it is also very difficult, doesn't mean it is good.
Speaking of leaderboards can anyone tell me what the highest score is for guwange blue on xbox live and does it have replays? I've never seen another replay of the game and have been building strats by myself so far.
>>143650668
CCWI Arcade Boost/Original are reasonable desu, I think it's a bit harder than average CAVE 1-ALL in survival difficulty (due to having a TLB) and scoring scales from very reasonable at a low level to very difficult at WR-level, it's a good game for players of all levels.
I want you to post your 1cc-list, right now!
>>143653616
eosd
pcb
in
>>143653616
- Mushihimesama Original
- Deathsmiles (stage difficulty 1-2)
...
>>143653616
eosd
pcb
Blue Wish Resurection Plus (meh)
working on Mushi and R-type 1-ALL
>>143653616
Samurai Aces
APB Normal
:'(
>>143654235
Oh yeah and Deathsmiles, no gorge or death mode
>>143650081
You and me, buddy.
Replay for STG Archive in case this one syncs (worked for me): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/52397711/jss3_replay_025.dat
>>143654598
Congrats!
And you didn't bash your stick today!
>>143653616
Gradius (AC) 1 loop no miss
Gradius (FC) 2 loops (3-3 game over)
Gradius III (SFC)
Silver Surfer (NES) no miss
TH 2 normal
TH 6-8 normal
TH 7 hard
TH 6/7 extra
TH 10 normal
Mushi 1.0 original
Mushi 1.5 original no miss
Mushi Futari 1.5 original
Mushi Futari BL original
Pretty shit but I haven't really tried to clear many games
>>143653616
TH6-15
Dodonpachi, Dodonpachi Daioujou, Ketsui, Mushihimesama, ESP Ra.De
Basically all trash, the cool thing I've done is my Double Spoiler score!
>>143654136
I forgot Futanari BL Original
>>143653616
deathsmiles arcade with rosa
blue wish ressurection plus with auto guard offccwi novice boost and original :^]
>>143655308
superplayer
>>143654929
I really need to stop doing that, neither my stick or my arm can take it...
>>143654929
>>143655503
I was worried I was the only one to do that
>>143655454
Kusoplayer*
>>143653616
Darius Gaiden Hard Route
Samidare(no extra)
Cho Ren Sha 68k 2-ALL on Normal Rank
Touhou 6 through 13 on normal(IN on hard)
Final Boss: Raw Label 2-ALL on normal
ALLTYNEX Second Hard Mode
Kamui on Normal
That's all I can remember off the top of my head.
>>143654598
Replay desynced again for me. This time it desynced a bit further ahead, at the next boss. I have no idea what's causing it. I was going to try and download your replay from the leaderboards but to do that I have to play for a while.
Is there something like a save-file you could upload that might unlock all the unlockables for me?
>>143643927
I'm still around. Feel free to send/upload the .inp file for me to use. Do specify what version of MAME you're using first though.
I was also planning on uploading a version of 100 Yen: The Japanese Arcade Experience but with the English subtitles, but it turns out someone already upped a version which includes it. Should've thought about doing it sooner.
>>143659353
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/52397711/jss3.bin is the savefile, same place as replays
>>143653616
>I want you to post your 1cc-list, right now!
Karous (every difficulty)
Gradius 2 (hardest to 2-8)
Gradius nes (looped until bored around 4/5)
Gradius iv (2-7)
Salamander 2 (1 all to 2-5)
Esprade
Ketsui (2-5)
Espgaluda (both characters)
Dodonpachi (2-3)
Donpachi (2-4)
Batsugun
Batsugun Special (3 loops cleared)
Strikers 1945 2 (1-all to 2-3)
Strikers 1945 (2-6)
Harmful park
Raiden fighters
Raiden fighters 2
Armed police batrider (normal)
Metal black
Mushihimesama (original and maniac)
Mushi futari 1.5 (original)
Mushi futari black label (original and maniac)
Mushihimesama 1.5 original
Mushihimesama 1.5 max original
Mushihimesama 1.5 max maniac
Deathsmiles
Xii stag/Xiizeal
Trizeal (regular and xiistag ships)
Delta zeal
Shikigami no shiro 2
Vasara
Vasara 2 (easy mode)
Rapid hero
Battle bakraid (normal)
Psyvariar medium unit
Psyvariar revision
Psyvariar 2
Gradius Gaiden (hardest 2-8)
satazius (normal,hard and insane)
Bike banditz
Gradius 2 (Nes)
Gradius 3 (snes)
Strikers 1999 (1 all to 2-3)
Ibara arrange
Gaia Seed
Thunderforce vi
Guwange
Guwange blue label
Steel dragon x
zanac x zanac
sonic wings special
Danmaku unlimited 2
MUSHA
Guwange
Guwange blue
Wolflame
Radirgy
Illvelo
I hope to one day be as expert in experience and knowledge as kraut.
>>143659353
>I'm still around.
Hey, I linked to it on farm but honestly i want to wait till i get a great run and clear then il send that to you.
>>143637825
Mate if I can 1cc Cave games then you must be absolutely terrible.
>>143647925
Cave's main gimmick is that they hate fast(er than some other bullet hell) bullets, but the games slow down immensely once the screen is packed.
>>143649749
I'm right here. Mostly post about Cave and Touhou though because I'm a huge memester. Also laughing at the Kraut getting offended at the people that are willing to act like he's part of a community, rather than some jerk who wants to be offended by everyone.
>>143653616
Will answer this in new thread.
>>143660464
It still desyncs, I swear this game is cursed somehow.
>its a "die on stage 2 twice and rage quit the game" episode
>>143662824
Me too.
>>143663520
>its a "die on stage 3 and keep restarting it for 30 minutes"that happens to me almost every time i play crimzon clover
>>143664251
Lookie what we got here
