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LB/SB Minigun Build Edition

Previous thread: >>142531801

>Skill Tree Beta Calculator (might be out of date)
http://payday.drakendomain.net/

>Upcoming Payday 2 Tournaments:
http://www.overkillsoftware.com/payday2-tournament/

>Extremely In-Depth Guide on the Mechanics of PAYDAY 2 (think Frank found a new maintainer)
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=267214370

>Skill/Weapon Stat Calculator (going to be out of date):
http://www.pd2skills.com/

>Skilltree Guide (going to be out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/nUXjB3J.png

>Perk Deck Guide (definitely out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/E6x18Bt.png

>Stat Ranking and Breakpoints (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/TY14uav.png

>Weapon/Armor/Damage/Pickup Spreadsheets (not up to date):
http://pastebin.com/dSyuTzdt

>(NEW) Weapon Skin Checklist (totally up to date):
http://pastebin.com/jivyLi3A

>Big Oil Engine Calculators:
http://payday2skills.ru/bigoil.html
http://albertkung.com/bigoil/

>PAYDAY Wiki:
http://payday.wikia.com/wiki/PAYDAY_2

>Latest Updates Here:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620

>Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/itfeelslikesomethingsintheair

>Mods and Lua:
http://pastebin.com/E3m0uKKn

>Weapon skin previews
http://pd2stash.com/

>Daily Dose
http://fuldans.se/?v=bawawkvbhb
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>Make new thread.
>Doesn't redirect me to it.
>Still isn't in the catalog.
Thanks Hiroshima.
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2nd for Jimmy being best.
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3rd for a reminder that with jews, you lose.
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Players seem to be loving it
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5rd for xd
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what mask should i wear oni-chan?
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>>142966414
Kin-Ki was always my favorite of the four
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>>142966414
>not using Kage instead.
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>>142967440
it looks like shit

not that oni looks any better
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wheres yashy )';
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>>142969208
getting trashed in his boipussy
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Twelfth for god bless the almighty Almir and the blessings he bestows upon us all.
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>>142973251
>Buying drills
Fuck off.
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>>142973767
neener neener
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>>142973251
why does it take so fucking long? it's a loot bag, it doesn't need to be 30 fucking seconds to open
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>>142978405
It doesn't take that long. He just dragged it out for fake suspense since the game decides what item you've gotten before you can see the wheel spinning.
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>>142978405
>>142979120
The unboxing doesn't happen until the game gets notice from the server that the safe is indeed opened and also which item the client should display. aka. it's lag from 3rd world internet
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This shit needs to fucking stop
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>>142879886
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Mass Murderer (any_300_kills)
- Mellon (voff_4)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)
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>>142983118
is this seriously a fucking bot
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>>142983118
I forgot side jobs were even a thing once I started using the dlc unlocker L o L
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>>142983203
No_
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>>142982898
i saw someone with 400 hours get downed by a taser on the other side of the map and then they left
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Sokol is a cute girl
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>>142983576
post pics
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>>142983493
Shit like that never ceases to piss me off.

This is the ONLY game I know/play where a nigga with 200+ hours can still act like a fucking dumbass and quit early to add insult to stupidity.
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>>142983636
I only have Clokol
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>>142984058
not a fan of character mixing but that's pretty cool
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If Sokol was a girl he would have hair like this desu
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of course
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>>142985439
payday 2 is a children's game
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>Change preferred character to Wolf
>Swedish K
>Viking Hat

Time to unleash my inner Swede
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>>142985439
Now you can't even kick him to get a much more useful bot because the bot will be in custody too.

Who's the stupid pubbie now?
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>>142985931
>Viking Hat
>Not Ball Gag
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>>142985439
HEY G WOULD YOU MAKE ME A SANDWHICH
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Thread dead cause ashley banned everyone who uses dlc unlocker
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>>142989567
Trashley can't ban anyone from shit.
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>>142989567
From Steam forums maybe but not ingame. I'm still using it and having fun with it.

Anyone who still submits to the Jews are literal keks.
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RESU-FUCKING-RECT-DEAD
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>Sit on my dick, Clover
>FUCK. ME. HARD.
guys, stop playing around with the soundboard.
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So how long until trashly does another code give away to ensure the cucks in the steam group keep shilling for him here? That's all he can do since when he bitches to the mods here to get them to ban people it doesn't work. Got to reinforce that pro-overkill sentiment somehow right?
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>>142993068
t. Fede
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>>142990437
why do people play with you if you have a cheater tag all the time?
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>>142993221
Because cheater doesn't mean I use ebic kill all hax
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>>142993294
people don't ask you why you have cheater tag?
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>>142994465
Pubs fucking LOVE the bad goy tag.

It means that the cheating host is going to give them a free DW or payout.
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>>142994465
they do but when i tell them it's only dlc shit, 90% of them are chill with it

also scrubs respect it for >>142994752
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Jules, in his infinite wisdom, nerfed Flechettes, making Shotgun Impact a mandatory skill again for Flechette shotguns.

Amazing.
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>>142996321
Did he really just allow a nerf to an ammo type that literally no one fucking uses?
The intelligence level of the Overkill staff surprises me yet again.
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Is it just me or is Jack of all Trades not working?

tried to put down my secondary equipment medbag, but it just disappeared.
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>>142998058
Appears to be bugged with some mods
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>>142996321
>>142997978
>HE rounds snipe better than flechette Though that's really only relevant for dealing with snipers but holy fuck you can tag snipers at long ranges pretty consistently with HE rounds
>HE rounds pierce armor better than AP slugs
>Nerf flechette

ok then
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This video game is gay like my weiner
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>>142998058
That was happening to me until update 99. No mods, here.
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I haven't played since pay2win. Is this game worth playing again? I noticed they gave me the wolf pack cause I owned it in Payday 1, is that good?
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>>142999034
>Is this game worth playing again?
There were like two free heists and a free deagle on steroids but that's about it. If you want you can beta test their new skill system that makes everything really retarded
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>>142998324
HE ammo is bugged, instead of being an explosive entity it's just a large radius bullet with 100% piercing. You can hit cop spawns through walls that are out of bounds.
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>>142999034
>Is this game worth playing again?

Depends what you liked about that made you start playing and why you quit in the first place.

I'm going to go ahead and say no unless you have 3 friends to play with.
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>>142998058
I can't equip my second deployable. Last week I could only equip my second deployable, I couldn't change my primary.
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60th for ARMS OUTSTRETCHED
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>>142999034
If you have the Wolf Pack, that's even better.

Shit's got a grenade launcher in there, and Overkill already released several DLC clone items, so pay2win is pretty much out the window unless you can't git gud
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTFHnznfnik
>that feel when you realize most of go bank stealth was inspired from no mercy
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>>143002643
I wonder if we'll be able to fully stealth more of the original heists if they get ported to pd2
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>>142985931
Update: Swedish-K actually pretty okay

Just gotta live from mag to mag and make sure to snatch those ammo boxes
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GET THE FUCK UP
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get gude get hoxhude
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>>142973251
>Paying for skins when PP exists
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Arrows count as ammo boxes at least for cable-ties.

Was able to get infinite cable ties, gonna test with grenades next
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>>143014004
Holy shit

GO Bank solo new meta
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>>143014004
Just tested with grenades for fully loaded aced, you can infinite grenades and cable ties just by shooting at your feet.
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>>143014004
SASUGA OVERKILL
THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO UPDATE THEIR FUCKING SHITTY GAME
I'M DYING OF LAUGHTER
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>>143015264
this is dumb
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>>143016413
It's furry art, ignore it.
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>>143014004
welcome to 2 weeks ago

they've already said they're working on fixing it asap
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>porn exists of sokol giving capt winters an anklejob
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>>142970032
Jelly?

>>143015264
Oh jesus...

>>143016656
2 weeks ago? They added cable ties as drops a few days ago.
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>>142970032
Yashy isn't Ashley
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>>143016691
>no porn of Clover giving the gang a projob
>mfw
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>>142973251
>that feel when people are not praying Almir when opening safes,
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_8pb6NbJG8
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>>143020443
>mfw sokol has more, higher quality porn compared to clover
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>>142996321
>Using a shotgun and not having shotgun skills.
>Using shotguns for ranged.
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>>143020541
>yfw almir sounds like a sand nigger name
>yfw he probably works for isis

allah akbar no snackbahar
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>>143021291
desu sokol is cuter
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Got a wolf drill yesterday, I have a wolf safe, should I open it or sell the drill? I'm thinking sell
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>>143026270

Wise choice is usually sell every time.
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>>143026270
ope
>>143026497
u not real ashly
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I'd be down for Simon voicing a character other than Bain, such as a Heister.

Few years back I was surprised that he sounds nothing like Bain, instead puts on a tight chested stressed voice. Its also why a handful of Bain lines sounds like he's spoken too long without a breath and starts to deepen as he relaxes
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>>143026579

Last trip got cracked so i changed it and actually secured this one. Put the trip on my steam profile to confirm it.
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>>143026579
Good goy. Do not fall for false Trashly's.
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>>143026792
OK I BELIieve youj
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>>142986602
NOOWH
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>>143026792
are u gonna give away some dls keys any time soon?
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hellow heisters i have bring some dls from almir's scret stash hahah:

4ZTVR-QRC4I-G0XRN
9R2MX-FBXIA-TDFQ9
I60K8-WHFNP-X2IN2
FBQVH-4K6EQ-K49QD
BZMPM-739WE-IN9NK
24D52-YA68G-I5NB7
MCMLD-B524M-AJG2Y

geep those elmets flying :DDDD
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>>143028196
moar
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>>143028196
thanks doge
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lmao
>http://store.steampowered.com/app/443940/
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>>143028196
What the fuck is Heaven Island Life
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>>143028608
some vr demo thing
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>>143028608
I only got Particula.

Looks so bad.
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because you wre good litle doggitos i have snatched a few more dls when old almy didnt look jahahaj:

38Q3C-L9C2D-DVYPY
7VWVV-MNKQM-IQ4JJ
2HGNC-3YCJT-EKX5J
T3I7Q-Z75CY-XLKVM
3H4HI-EY7DX-NKXTM

squeee
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>>143029270
Where are these keys coming from
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>>143029270
Too many failed attempts... God damnit what keys are those
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>>143029371
Probably another Steam forum volunteer hotpocketeer.
>>143029428
You're pathetic.
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>>143029643
>You're pathetic.

why is that mister?
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>>143029371
they are coming from almitos scrotet stach
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>>143029270
>game is called Woodle Tree Adventures
>shows up as Heaven Island Life

Thanks Dogboy.
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>>143029270
based Overkilll_Ausfaillan.
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>>143029813
kys tbhfam
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I was memed hard. I actually decided to try the Plains rider bow because that one guy here seems to be loving it. Useless
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;)
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>>143039956
You can't insta-fire it.

You need to hold it down a little to actually have any stopping power.
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>>143043067
Like I said, useless
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>>143039956
Welcome to the I'm Always Right and /pdg/ is Always Wrong Show. Today we'll be hearing from our former guests, "Piglet is better than GL-40 because if you get tazed it auto reloads" shitter, and "Suit dodge is totally better than armor because RNG being your only defense can never go wrong" faggot. But first a word from our sponsors.
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Need help with a question: in the beta, there doesnt seem to be a prompt to refil ammo for sentry guns, can you still do it somehow?
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>>143045050
Pick them up and then place them again.
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>>143044589

Payday 2 is a perfect game remember to agree with me guys as i give out free codes occasionally so that you agree with me.

inb4 someone actually takes me seriously.
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Can I pay someone to write gay Sokol fanfiction
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>>143046298
buy me the COP and I'll do it.
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>>143045319
You don't inb4 your own post newfag.
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I'm bored and feel like watching some heisting, any good streamers doing Payday right now?
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>>143047615
dummy
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>>143047731
>streamers
>payday
Occasionally some C rank Twitch variety streamer will stream it and bump it up the catalog, but typically ever since the team evil fags stopped streaming and shilling haxhud 24/7 PD2 streams are as dead as this thread. You're better off watching a stream of Extreme Rules tonight because the IC title match should be p gud
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>>143047124
where
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>>143044470
Still faster than a fire/reload cycle on the gl40 my man
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>>143045319
Hey Trashcan Carla, you should tell your jewish overlords that they broke the fuck out of the Sydney skins last patch. Most of them just render as blank textures and the legendary just crashes the game if you try to preview or equip it.
>>143048810
With no ammo pickups, less than half the blast radius, and inferior damage. Kill yourself.
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>tfw Ashley joins your lobby
>tfw she stayed 10 seconds and left without saying a word
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>>143048958
Not him, but I'm kind of having fun with the Explosive English Longbow
>850 fucking damage and can be used to countersnipe for fun
Also, I think Explosive Bows are fine for quick heists or those that aren't drawn out for long periods of time, i.e. Overdrilling
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>>143048958
>No ammo pickups
Still doesn't mean anything, no matter how many times you say it.

>Less blast radius, less damage
These are valid, but it can still one-shot shields when charged, still kills winters pretty quick and only takes two shots to remove the dozer's faceplate. Which, again, is all you should be using it for.
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>>143049474
Your dick wasn't big enough for him. Trashly's a size queen.
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>>143049474

Was that, the lobby with someone using that sound mod spamming the horn alarm? I sorta joined and thought "I can't be arsed with that today"
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>>143048810
Awesome, so you can fire the second arrow you need to drop a Mook shield quicker. If you need an extra second that much with a grenade launcher then you just don't know how to use one.
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>>143048654
A few assholes are auctioning them still. Running over 100 bucks.
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>>143050295
You don't need a second arrow??

Do I need to like

Stream a heist or two using this bow as a PSA of how to use it properly
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>>143050682
Why would I want to watch a video of you playing on overkill and using everyone's ammo bags?
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>>143051080
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>>143051292
I can find pictures on the Internet too, here's one of you
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>>143052102
you got me

I guess it was too obvious I googled "incredible very high death-wish clear rate" and wouldn't you know it there was an explicitly cropped photo of just that right there on google images
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>>143052102
>Still replying to him.
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>>143052362
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>>143052362
or rather very high death wish participation rate

>>143052480
see I think that reply was meant for me because I genuinely don't understand how people who are knowingly and observably wrong multiple times about nearly every claim they've thrown around can think they're in the right

I even offered to stream me using the fucking thing since they clearly don't even know the most basic shit about USING THE WEAPON IN QUESTION and they're still dodging me

I thought I was in /pdg/ not /fgg/
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>The year is 2017
>/pdg/ consists of two anons.
>One anon claiming that his forklift build is the best in the game because it one shots anything it runs into.
>Another anon calling him a faggot.
>The first complaining that no one seriously argues with him about any negatives he isn't seeing in his forklift build.
>The second calling him a faggot.
>The former bumping the thread every 10 minutes so it doesn't fall off /vg/ and recreating it every morning
>The latter, calling him faggot.
So shall it be
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Given how grinder got cucked and is barely compensating for the damage taken, what build do you guys use for dodge now? Crook bulletproof lbv?
Rogue w/hostage taker aced?
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>>143053845
Haven't fucked around in the beta but last I heard LBV Crook was the new hotness?
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>>143053403
shut up retard
you have stupid ideas
faggot
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>>143053845
I'm waiting for someone to perfect the anarchist meta.
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>>143053845
>He used Grinder with Dodge
>He needlessly limited himself to low concealment weapons, used the shitter suit, and wasted points in Fugitive.
Why don't you try an Burglar dodge build. Sounds up your alley.
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>>143048958

Uh they are aware as far as i know. It will get fixed most likely next week.
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>>143053967

That was before Anarchist came out. Now Anarchist is the new hotness.

>221 armor with a fucking suit
>passive armor regen
>armor regen on hit
>with Bullseye, armor regen on headshot

It's better than original Grinder
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>>143054296
>Waiting.
>Being too stupid to perfect your own builds.
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>>143054325
>Crouch, stand still
>55% chance for them to shoot at everyone else instead

the 'fuck my team' build sounds pretty amusing honestly

>>143054402
Man, I really don't want to buy Sydney for that fucking perk deck, everything about that DLC blows besides goddamn anarchist.
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>>143054402
>tfw when you don't have infiltrator, grinder or anarchist.
At least there's Ex-Pres. And Sociopath with frenzy is fun.
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>>143054642
>buy
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>>143054716
Try Maniac. It's p. gud. I'm running it with a masterforcer build with hostage taker and supplementing the DR with a bit of health regen is spicy.
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>>143054493
more like too lazy, I haven't even tried the beta yet.
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>>143054750
Dunno what to tell you man, I don't pirate shit.
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>plainsrider argument

literally use the GL40, or light crossbow if you really need muh concealment

>143054296
>perfect the anarchist meta

Bullseye Aced, Shotguns, Endurance Aced, and those now low-level skills that let you shoot and reload while sprinting in any direction. Never stop shooting, and because it's a shotgun you always hit and always regen armor. Use whatever armor you want
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>>143053845
Ex-presidents is bretty gud
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>>143051080
>needing to refill ammo on a bow with 50 spare shots
>even though you're only ever using it to stumble shields and get rid of dozer faceplates
At last I truly see, bow haters are the quintessential shitters of PD2. Only time I ever ran out of arrows was a DW big bank that ran for almost an hour because pubbies didn't know what they were doing.
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>>143055030
Right, you just suck dick for a living.
>>143055169
>light crossbow
Stop.
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>>143055169
The fuck is the difference between the crossbow and the plainsrider? I didn't get the Chivalry DLC because it seemed pretty fucking worthless with what it adds

Plus with the bow's concealment I can slap extended mags and a long barrel on my deagle and it looks fresh as fuck

>>143055269
They think you need two arrows to kill shields, too. And they also have literally no fucking argument because they've never used it for more than maybe a third of a heist, and just resort to ad hominem garbage about how you're bad or only play on overkill and duck you if you offer to show them how everything they say is wrong

It's like some shitter talking because they're anonymous and they can get away with it but pussy out when they might have to put a name to the uninformed shit they're spewing, typical 4chan, basically
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>>143055916
>The retard is still using a deagle.
done
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>>143055916
>The fuck is the difference between the crossbow and the plainsrider

The crossbow doesn't require you to hold down and release, it shoots on click and reloads like everything else, and it's much easier to aim. It also does more damage but I don't know if it's enough to make a difference.
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>>143056461
>Prompted me to check the Baby Deagle's / White streak's stats

Wow yeah, these things are stupid, what the hell

I don't really like how they look though, gonna stick with my deag.

I use the Bronco, too. How you like that?
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>>143057041
>259 vs. 315

That is a pretty notable difference.

Maybe I'll play around with it when a sale hits, gives me a reason to bother with it beyond achievements and Javelins at least.
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>>143053845
>Dodge is dead,
>grinder finally received the final nail to its coffin,
>ICTV infiltrator is finally on top of the mountain,


Daily reminder to constantly yell to the devs the stat boosted skins and grinder perk deck are P2W so they don't mind about the Dragan character dlc.
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>>143055916
>being this mad people don't like your shitty weapons
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>>143057743
They're already nerfing Grinder, and the free Stat Boosts gave all the stat boost skin owners the shaft.

What more could yelling about it do?
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About update 100, what kind of free stuff will they add this time ?
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>>143058147
>Missing the point entirely

I don't give a flying fuck if they don't like it. They're the ones who throw a shitfit and insult people and tell people to kill themselves the second you dare mention any fucking gun that isn't the GL40 / China Lake / M308 / whatever other gun happens to be meta while spewing ignorant and generally just fucking wrong things about the guns they've clearly never used.

The fuck is the point of the thread if you can't discuss an intrinsic and important part of the fucking game without a cabal of sperglords telling you to neck yourself because you're not using THEIR guns? There's only so much discussion you can pull out of heists we've all played a million times and bitching about randoms/Overkill.
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>>143059576
>plainsrider
>gun
Derp
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>>143059497
They probably forgot to do anything special.

I don't think we got anything special for 2016 New Year's, did we?
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>>143060038
Nigga you know what I'm trying to say

And moreover, it isn't just limited to the bow. I've seen the same shit when you try to talk about LMGs at all, rocket launchers (which I admit is total garbage but I use them anyway because fuck it, I bring my own ammo and it's fun to delete dozers), Swedish K, and other shit like that.

There ARE bad guns. There are even pointless and borderline unusable guns. There's pretty much NO reason or circumstance you would ever want to equip the Broomstick Pistol, the Matever, and hell, even the Thanatos doesn't have much of a reason to exist in this day and age.

But it's just goddamn idiotic to shit on ABSOLUTELY EVERY GUN that isn't top tier. And even moreso goddamn retarded when you show evidence to the contrary that you do just fine with it on Death Wish, a difficulty almost everybody agrees is too fucking easy now and the response is just
>Yeah well you probably fail a lot to win, unlike me

It's just stupid shit that's going to end up killing this general. We're already only barely hanging on because of the skill tree beta.

Use a fucking LMG. Seriously. It requires absolutely no skill point investment and it's fun to pop a squat in a chokepoint and turn it into a cop blender. And the beta's even adding a skill to make the goddamn things reload 60% faster.

Speaking of, does the new skill beta have more than 5 skill trees? I'm really gonna need more than that with all the new shit.
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>>143059576
>without a cabal of sperglords telling you to neck yourself because you're not using THEIR guns?

I only shit on M1014 users because this shotgun is literally a total failure, even the Predator 12 disappointed less peoples. Couldn't care about people using meme weapons although having a suit crossbow/mateba guy joining a DW heist is always something to watch.
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>>143061287
Yeah no, you're right. Shotguns are in a sad state of affairs at the moment. Only, what, four of them are even remotely usable and REQUIRE skill investments on top of that to make them good.

A skilled up Mosconi is a beautiful sight but the shotgun class as a whole is pretty balls. Skill beta is helping with that, we might see the Locomotive again.

Though I don't think any amount of skills will ever make the striker anything better than shit-garbabe
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>>143061279
skill sets, rather.
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>>143061287

M1 and Predator are amazing in the beta now. Same with the pump actions.
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>>143053967
>>143054402
Crook requires basic bulletproof, together with hostage taker aced, or FAK's, which aren't abusable anymore. That means pumping a fuckton of points to get to tier 4 of a skill tree.

Rogue only requires bullseye basic at best, together with hostage taker (or FAK's). That means you can usually run aced Swan Song with rogue in addition to inspire, some AR skills and silent killer. You have to ditch swan song, or AR skills, or silent memer with Crook.

In total, survival with Crook+bulletproof basic+hostage taker, and surival with Rogue+hostage taker is on about the same power level, however you have to ditch swan song for Crook. Thereby, I would recommend Rogue over Crook.

I cannot comment on Anarchist, since I don't own the DLC, but it sounds feasible to run on 15 dodge and Bullseye aced.

Also, I have considered hostage taker with Grinder, but that amounts to 5 baseline dodge, which is very underwhelming. Plus, its way too much regen stacked. The point of dodge is the ability to dodge away bulldozer shots/bullseye into taking 10 armor dmg instead of tanking 200 health dmg. It does not matter one regens like nuts with a combination of grinder and hostage taker, when one dies instantly to high damage shots, which are the biggest problem with dodge builds in general;weak cops and dozers burst down way too fast, and you usually have to dodge them away to stay alive.
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>that feel when remembering the Alesso-Payday track is actually real
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9j-tE-KsMo
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>>143062215
Nah, there's just 5 skill set
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>>143072449
Bummer.

Maybe they'll add that near the end of the beta.
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>Come back into the thread.
>>143063539
>M1 and Predator are amazing
Will there be a single day where you people do not disgust me.
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>>143045319
free sydney codes when
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I haven't played this game in something like a full year, so I'm assuming all the deck and build information in the OP is way outdated.
What's the new good shit? Like guns and builds.
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>>143079593
Grinder got nerfed, muscle got nerfed just a little, Crook is actually good for dodge, pistols got nerfed, akimbo smgs, and new skills all in a new beta that makes everything broken as fuck
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>>143079802
>http://i.imgur.com/E6x18Bt.png
So is Crook worth using over Rogue now?
Also what weapons are worth having?
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Oh yeah and can Mastermind be good? Should I be running the Crook/Rogue perk deck with that or is there a better one?
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>>143080462
Suits got nerfed and only give 5% dodge so crook is better and vests got buffed in armor so you can tank more with it, weapons really depend on what build you are doing, heavy pistols such as deagle are weird as fuck right now since they got ROF nerf along with a small damage nerf, all weapons have less pickup now so try to avoid deagle GL40 for now if you are rusty and miss you too much, shotguns got a weird buff now that 000 buck give free damage with no ammo problem and they also got more damage buff
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>>143080462
Yes
No bows.
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What secondary skill tree should I take with Mastermind?
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>>143081962
Enforcer or Fugitive probably
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>>143068634
why is he wearing a dress?
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>>143087409
>why is a faggot in womens clothes
hmmm
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U FUKKEN WOT
Before you ask I was trying to revive him and using the FAK's as backup if I got shot too much
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>>143089197
>Full health.
>Putting a FAK down instead of shooting the guy you're standing inside.
The fact that you were so little a threat that the cop AI went to hand cuff you instead of shoot or melee you confirms that this is 110% your fault.
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>>143090106
Whoosh.
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>>143090106

Good to see you lack all reading comprehension, he was placing a FAK so he wouldn't go down reviving the other guy.
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>>143081962
Silent shitter
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>>143090660
Shush.
>>143090734
Project your own illiteracy onto someone as stupid as you, shithead. "He" had full health and 12 seconds. He ignored a grey standing INSIDE HIM to put down a FAK AT FULL HEALTH. When the fucking webm starts with him standing on one already. Dumb fuck should have the game removed from his library if he's that stupid.
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>>143080980
What the fuck is wrong with you guys? Are you really that fucking dense that you can't use the bow properly? You refused to watch a stream detailing the intricacies of this paid content our God Almir has bestowed upon us and we must now justify purchasing. The bow is just as viable as the gl40 because I can't figure out how to get to cover after using it, even though I spend most of my time in cover anyways(that's why I'll never run out of ammo). You guys are just pussies.
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>>143091526
We're not talking in terms of real logic here
Do you think your best guy (with inspire aswell) is worth sacrificing over a fucking gray?
With nerves of steel the odds are with a FAK I can easily revive him
Of course IF normie cops are capable of cuffing then yes fair enough, I wouldn't have even dreamed of going that close, nor was it my intention to really but due to the way I had my brain process the way I was going to get to the guy which was to sprint jump crouch and deploy a FAK at the same time.
This webm isn't showing my playstyle competence or anything like that it's showing that the AI is doing something that it should not be doing.
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>>143091526

I'm a big internet tough guy pls believe.
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>>143092113
>We're not talking in terms of real logic here
Yes we're apparently talking in the terms of dumb ass logic that has a fully loaded gun, an enemy right in front of them basically rubbing their head on the barrel of their gun, and they choose to fucking put down a FAK.
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>>143092597
Holy fucking shit
Stop talking about the gameplay
The AI is not supposed to fucking cuff you, yes the mistake was made, no I wouldn't have done it if I reacted sooner but the fact of the matter was the enemies were going to keep coming ANYWAY
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>>143092597
This is the same logic that drives deers to run out into roads and then stare into a cars headlights thinking if they stand still the car will just think they aren't there, turn around and leave. He's literally deer brained. Almost DSP tier.
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>>143093251
>The AI is not supposed to fucking cuff you
Its always done that. Its not like its some new feature.
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>>143093251
>holy shit stop talking about the fact that I am LITERALLY too fucking stupid to do the one thing required to not die.
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>>143093609
Normie cops do, not during assault waves
>>143093657
I wasn't going to die, and I didn't, I got cuffed.
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>>143093801
All cops do. You can get cuffed by security guards, blues, greens, greys and tans at any point, not just in stealth or between waves. Just because the circumstances don't arise very often doesn't mean it isn't a thing.
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>>143089197
>>143093251
>>143093801

Why don't you have Inspire Aced you fucken shitter?
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>>143094085
I was wondering when that question was gonna come about.
Yeah, I aced it the round after.
>>143094056
Fair enough. I've never had it happen with anything other than gensec.
I thought overkill fucked something.
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>>143093801
Yes congratulations on again missing the point that you weren't going to die until you ignored the 3 guys in front of you to drop your pants a shit out a FAK. Also bravo on knowing nothing about a cop mechanic that's been in the game since PD:TH.
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>>143094392
Uppers is OP and so is nerves of steel, no I wasn't going to die.
I looked it up on the long guide anyway.
It was caused by me using silent killer

Causing an aggressive action to be reported.
The last condition may look intimidating, but is reduced to nothing if you have a silenced weapon capable of killing with a single hit. With such a weapon, you may shoot all other guards except the one attempting to arrest you and nobody will care. As long as you don't move or kill the person trying to arrest you, you can remain in the state of being arrested until you are finally handcuffed. If there is no clear path to your location, the guard trying to arrest you will not move at all, so you can stay in this state indefinitely. You can bind several guards to the same location by sitting on top of a glass roof (when standing on the large sculptures in the gallery however, they will simply walk through the air and arrest you anyway). They will neither move, call the police or shoot at you, provided you stay still and don't kill the one guard who has seen you first and is technically still attempting to handcuff you. Granted, the uncool enemies usually cascade out of sight, so this strategy will fail unless you keep track of all enemies.

Weird shit, I'll never use silent killer again.
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>>143093251
>the game cheated
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>>143098062
What the fuck I couldn't do anything. Bugged cuffing mechanic. Hahahahahah thanks Almir.
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can someone buy me sydney pack
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>>143100395
>buy
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>>143100395
>can
of course
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I was kinda down on Jimmy when he came out but I like him a lot now. Voice is still a little loud and drawn out when he's calling out other heisters (Chains in particular) but he's the unhinged hype-man. Like Wolf, if Wolf got more lines.
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>>143094894
>silent shitter
>i
>l
>e
>n
>t
>s
>h
>i
>t
>t
>e
>r
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>>143100629
I was okay with him when he first came out but then I got his bot in every heist I've done since he came out and now I fucking hate him.
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>>143100697
200 damage m308 and 240 damage judge with concealment modifiers for dexfag incarnate.
I was mostly just fucking around with guns anyway.
>>143100629
>>143100925
I loved Jimmy when he first came out, thought he was gonna be the light humour the game needed alongside clover.
He got tedious fast.
Same with hoxton really, I thought he brought a serious tone and more interesting characters.
Now he's just an edgelord.
What a shame.
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>>143100428
>>143100530
add me pls

id/76561198051093422
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>>143101725
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What's a good mask to go with an M16A1 looking AMR and a China Lake?

it ain't me starts playing
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>>143101725
at least do it right...
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>>143101725
>>143103896
kek
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DEAD!
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>>143104672
>in-game: Killing Floor 2
Pure poetry.
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>>143104672
>Public
>Its actually Private
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>>143102992
Death Wish mask
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>>143110395
the DW mask is physically repulsive and screams tryhard.
it is not helped in reputation by badgoy cheaters who unlock it because it looks "cool" who then proceed to be terrible at the game.
worst of the skulls/10.
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>>143102992
There's l i t e r a l l y a mask called Troubled War Veteran

Why is this even a question
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>>143110553
how about the Mega DW mask?
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>>143112969
You can't use that without being called a pirate or a shill... or a shill-pirate.
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>>143112969
Might as well go with a fedora at that point.
On the topic of Difficulty masks, which one looks the best? I personally like the OVK mask
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>>143113149
hard mask is the only correct answer
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>>143113149
>>143113232
>not just rolling with the classic
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>searching for contract
>joining game
>you have been kicked from the game
>searching for contract
>joining game
>connection to the host has been lost
Fuck consoles
T. consoleshitter
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>>143110553
>DW mask
>tryhard
If it was earned pre-hoxtout, maybe.
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>>143118020
>>143110553
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJQpQ3iTY8c
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WHY YOU WANNA GO SO FAST
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I got the drill
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Guys im having an anxiety attack
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>>143127059
hi having an anxiety attack
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How do I make the Gage Assault Pack weapons fun?
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How do I toggle OFF/ON a mod outside from the game, directly from the folder?
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>open the game for the first time this year
>new tits heister intro
>join bank heist: gold
>cam room down ecm about to be deployed
>game crashes while cable tying my first civ

why did i even download this shit on a new rig?
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>>143129498
Take it out of the folder.
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>>143133261
Your rig is clearly shit if vanilla crashed while tying a civ.
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GET THE FUCK UP
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>>142983118
>>142983203
>>142983375
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Earn Some Pocket Money (earn_250k_cash)
- Build A Raft Of Shields (any_25_shield_kills)

And this week's new Weekly Side Job is:
- Tabula Rasa (frog_1)
Complete it for your chance at an Infamous quality Dillinger Death Mask!

Keep those helmets flying! ;)
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>>143133261
Do you have a firewall that requires your approval when something wants to access the internet? Occasionally the game will try to access the Internet and if you haven't approved it since the last update it'll freeze when it's halted for your approval. It usually happens during loading screens after missions or days, but has happened to me mid mission. Happens after every update, at least with me, and I have mine set up to remember my choice.
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>Overshills trying to blame bugs on people.
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