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first for yogg saron > cthun
>>140891395
>9 mana do nothing
>get a bunch of synergyless enemy spells and the coin
epic. i could totally see this working in my meme yogg deck
>>140891525
xth for you can play BGH on curve now. :^)
4th for the game takes zero skill
>go get a drink after i end my turn
>opponent played nozdormu, then mind controlled my rag for lethal
dick move
5th for needing a Tauren tribal deck.
>>140891884
so when're you going to blizzcon?
>>140891921
>opponent is somehow supposed to know you're a little bitch
>>140891921
>walking away between turns
You deserve it
TRYING FOR THE THIRD FUCKING TIME
Rate my Nzoth deck
I just want to know what rank I can plateau it at
Zoo shaman shitters kys pls
>>140891980
>blizzcon = skill
Toppest kek lad
is he useful or is he 400 dust
>>140892126
>Zoo Shaman
I'd say I want to try it now but that would be a lie, not enough card draw.
Post Healadin dicks
Pls rate familia.
>>140892227
>priest
im sorry
>tfw you know it's very likely you missed three damage somewhere
>>140892393
>dies to backstab prep backstab
It's shit
how the fuck is warlock's fat johnny bravo balanced
>>140892393
>Gaining 4 mana on turn 8 when 10 is max
no thanks make it this turn only and we'll talk
>>140892227
Tried it in N'Zoth priest
It was too slow
>>140892629
>he thinks you can't go over 10 mana
why are there two threads
Where my Patron warrior nagas at?
>>140892829
>>140892829
If you use innervate with 10 mana you don't gain any, you have to use at least 2 first and then innervate. That was easily the best thing about druid combo, watching shitters innervate-FoN-Savage roar, pause for a minute, and then concede
>>140892018
>MFW I'm missing Xaril, Hucksters
>And I have 3 win rogue quest
Should I just dust Naxx/GVG and craft them?
>Master of Evolution into Leeroy
Out fucking skilled lmfao
>>140892918
Reporting for dutyI played it at the /hsg/ meme tournament last weekend, pretty fun to play actually
If I got rerolled for a 50 gold quest do I chance it for the 60 gold? I can only reroll once per day right?
Rate this bad boy
>>140893184
a pizza delivery guy is better at making cards for a children's card game than you are / 10
>>140893091
is it really patron warrior if you don't have any patrons in it
>>140893091
Brother get'cha homeboy Grommash in there.
>>140893445
for some reason I've read Naga... my bad
Hunters are the new paladins
Literally retard proof play on curve bullshit
>>140893531
>he thought the game would change
>>140893531
>hunters
>relevent at all in this meta
lol no
>>140893531
I love those stock photo file names
>>140893656
>What is le 8 mana spell of balance
>they told me C'thun Druid was good
>it's actually just a rank 20 deck
>>140892018
dont play shit like loot hoarder in it. You dont want loot hoarder to be brought back by Nzoth. You want better death rattles
>>140893704
>spending 8 mana for a 5/4 and a fireball
lol
I WILLFUCKALL OF YOU
>tfw I'm having fun with Evolve Shaman
Face Shaman is too boring, I was a mech mage climber, it's the same shit, but with a different smell.
>tfw crushing shitter ranks with c'thun druid on recent f2p alt
>not even level 10 for swipes yet
>>140893746
It got me to legend last season. I don't think it's that good though. It will probably fizzle out of the meta soon.
>>140892918
here
this deck is sick. feels good to shit on every single class
>>140892018
I'd go second SI over Harvest Golem. You have enough deathrattles already for N'Zoth, and I feel like the consistency from running 2 in the deck is needed.
Are Bladed Cultists working for you? I never found good use for them in my Rogue decks. Rather run something else like Thalnos or Farseer.
>>140893531
That would be C'Thun decks. Are you playing wild? Hunters are only good in wild.Stop playing wild.
>mfw i spend 4 mana to get a 7/7 and 4/0 with charge
>play rogue
>queue into strictly aggro shaman
>play cthun priest
>queue strictly into druids, cthun warriors, and dragon priests
Like clockwork
>>140892227
He's fun and usually worth it even if you have a couple vanilla minions on the board.
R8 this b8 at least an 8 m8.
what did they mean by this ?
>>140892227
From my experience, he's loads of fun, but definitely a win more card. Too slow to really be useful unless you're already way ahead.
>>140894430
what am I looking at here, every time I open the image 3 of the cards are different
So, we are 1 week into the expansion, what are your thoughts so far? For me WotG is an utter fail, the only thing that made it a little manageable was the introduction of Standard.
>lose to inner fire priest because lolnotauntsdrawn
Well great, now I want to kill myself.
>Been rank 12 for the past two hours
Sure is fun playing rogue but god damn
>>140894598
best expansion to be released so far. Lot of funI dont care about meta and ladder climbing I just want to have fun
>>140894064
>Are Bladed Cultists working for you?
honestly not really, they are really more of a miracle rogue card
I need to find something to replace them with but I fear for my curve becoming costlier and costlier
>>140894598
Shaman being playable is good.
Shaman being utterly broken is bad.
Druid is still Blizzard's favorite class, and it's painfully obvious (looking at you, Dark Arakkoa and Amber-Weaver.)
why didn't blizzard nerf mage
>>140894834
What's there to nerf
>>140894834
nerf what?
>when servant of yogg actually helps
pacha.jpg
>>140894852
ice block alex freeze direct damage
>>140894876
mage
>>140894949
this is what should have been nerfed 2 years ago
>slowly take control
>NOPE LOL
Feel cheated
>>140894882
>not fireballing the bear
Are C'thun decks viable as tier 1? Is Emperor 7 worth crafting? I don't want to throw the dust away if C'thun decks don't make the cut going forward.
>>140895059
cthun vs everything but aggro is a skill matchup. you will auto lose against every agro deck though.
>>140895147
>tfw I have the new 8 armor 3 mana druid card slotted in my deck
>tfw I go 50/50 with aggro now
that between the arakkoa, worshipper, wrath, and emperors I am okay
>>140894834
they did
>>140895147
Chtun warrior male Gold Job Vs Zoo or aggro
>>140894882
how do I get the Khadgar hero
>>140895035
nvm Reno, then N'Zoth, and then Twins fixed the problem
>>140895320
you can't anymore
at least for now
>>140895320
you cant, it was limited edition
>tfw playing against cancer decks like Cthun druid and throwing out Sylvanas on turn 9 while he has an empty board and 6 hp against my Nzoth rogue
>>140895147
Reno C'thun is fine vs aggro
>>140895320
You had to buy him through the iTunes app and the deadline has already passed so Khadgar never
>Turn 1 - Trogg
>Turn 2 - Totem Golem
>Turn 3 - Tuskarr + Totem Golem
>Turn 4 - Dr.4, 5/5 with taunt or Master of bullshit
>Turn 5 and beyond - JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP
Fuck shamans, fuck shamans in the ass
What is most cancerous deck atm?
Zoo, Cthun, or Face Shaman?
>>140895694
>Dr.4
>a fucking vanilla, class card 7/7 with a malus
no
>So pissed about the Druid nerfs I dusted practically all of his cards, including Cenarius, out of spite
>They only nerfed him to keep him from being game breaking instead of just broken in current meta
Just kill me familia I'm a fucking retard.
>>140895694
it wouldnt be so bad but they are just everywhere. rank 20-legend, including casual. youd think with that stupid fucking deck theyd climb but nope, still here at low ranks with me
>>140895342
>Reno heals for 29
>>140895748
C'thun cant possibly be cancerous since its basically the no1 expansion gimmick. I mean, of course there will be C'thun decks around at least until the next adventure
>>140895748
C'thun druid.
>>140894598
By far the best expansion. RNG not really being the deciding factor for a lot of games, Forbidden spells are really well designed, almost every class has a strong deck, no face decks, no meta defining legendaries aside from the one everyone has, every play feels like it has impact now instead of feeling bad for removing the shredder that pops up every game, and all archetypes are clearly present in the meta.
>>140894598
all the fun ruining decks are gone but freeze mage so its okay but could be better
>>140895975
Doesn't C'thun Druid auto-lose to C'thun Warrior?
>Patron is cancer!
>No one cares anymore
>Reno is cancer!
>No one cares anymore
>C'thun is cancer
Just bide your time dudes the next cancer will be here in probably September and we can complain about the new cancer making it impossible to climb the ladder effectively right now.
>>140895748
those are the only decks
>>140895975
>a deck that wins by playing vanilla minions until turn 10
>cancerous by any means
HOLY SHIT BEAST DRUID BEST DRUID
>fandral into nourish
>my dick is diamonds
HERO POWER NOW YOU FUCKING FAGGOT ZOO
>>140896115
Sorry, too busy wishing excruciating death upon whoever thought the Klaxxi Amber-Weaver was a good idea in a game where Brann Bronzebeard exists.
>>140895748
I don't know man, Zoo is like synonymous with cancer, like it's been the go to meta cancer for years. It almost doesn't feel right calling it a cancer when by now it's pretty much just a part of the game. I think when you describe cancer you want that contrast, the freshest and most horrid of cancer. I really don't even see that many c'thun decks in the ladder anyways, but what you will see, is that like 60% of the deck composition is some form of aggro shaman cancer. If i had to take a pick from my assortment of hot piping ass pain it would be aggro shaman.
Are rogue and priest the only classes without bullshit tier stuff like evolution, divine shield spam, 7/7 4 drops, 4-10 4 drops, infinite armor cthuns, etc
You know the game is broken when even mages take more skill to play compared to everyone except rogue and priest
>>140896262
>not playing "sap/destroy this shit" rogue
I almost got my shit handed to me a few minutes ago by a Murloc Shaman. At first I was like oh shit nigger what are you doing and then I was at 12 without hitting his face. I won but goddamn it was cool to be thrown off guard like that.
>yfw 5 darkshire councilmen on ur arena deck
>>140895759
You don't know what vanilla means.
A vanilla 4 mana minion would be 4/5
You're paying the 2 overload for +3/+2, that card is insane and you and all the other shaman apologists can fuck off.
"Countered by hard removal" is not a valid justification.
>>140896368
I appreciate that your mana curve is a fiery hand giving the finger.
>>140895748
Anything C'Thun, Shamans in general and Patron warrior. New zoo is not as good as people are making it out to be
>>140896368
â•âˆ©â•®.
>>140896368
Now that's what I call cancer
>cthun warrior and druid are impossible to beat guys
>>140896368
enjoy drawing them all starting hand and losing to a balanced curve
why didn't they bump frost nova up to 5 mana
>>140896625
>that sample size
really nigga?
>>140896625
The only appreciable result from that sample size is that you don't know how to play against Zoo.
>>140896701
I only had enough time to play 34 games since the reset
>tfw playing as rogue and your opponent floods the board in zoo
>tfw playing as rogue and your opponent drops a gorillion taunts and 4-10 4 drops while you only have 2 saps and a shadow strike
>tfw playing as rogue and your opponent slams your face with troggs and spells while you struggle to even control the board
>tfw playing as rogue and your opponent piles on armor until you run out of cards or he summons a monster to sweep you and your board to the tune of 25 damage
>tfw playing as rogue and your opponent out deathrattles you with value beasts and tokens
>tfw playing as rogue and your opponent heals to full 5 times in a game while you run out of cards or he summons a monster to sweep you and your board to the tune of 25 damage
>tfw playing as rogue and your get a miracle combo or yogg but it isnt enough or it completely fucks you over
>tfw playing as rogue
I really like this card, is there any ok C'thun rogue deck?
>>140896156
>>Patron is cancer!
>>No one cares anymore
because they nerfed the shit out of it
>>Reno is cancer!
>>No one cares anymore
because they just bought in a shitload of burst damage and took away most other neutral healing. also, getting rid of half the cards with standard mode made reno building a lot more difficult
>>C'thun is cancer
no, the ubiquitous netdecking is cancer
>>140896787
rogue is good
>>140896968
netdecking is literally impossible to prevent in all games
>>140896787
>tfw playing against rogue and it removes all your shit for 0 mana
>tfw playing against rogue and it sprints for 3 mana and gains card advantage
>tfw playing against rogue and it miracles its entire deck into its hand and deals 30 damage to face in a single turn
>tfw playing against rogue and every minion is a deathrattle
>tfw playing against rogue and he renos, shadowcasts it for a 1/1, and then shadowsteps the caster for another 1 mana reno
>>140893184
Congrats, you somehow managed to make a worse Anuberak, at least Anuberak doesn't actively help face decks kill you.
>>140896958
C'Thun Rogue with Shadowcasters and shit is shenanigans.
It's sort of an anti-C'Thun C'Thun deck, it crushes in C'Thun mirrors but loses to aggro automatically pretty much.
It's also by far the most fun C'Thun deck.
>priest buffs the shit out of northshire cleric and acolyte of pain
>draws tons of cards
>immediately gets a full hand
>next draw is his c'thun which he's forced to discard
spectacular
>>140897110
>worse Anuberak
literally retarded
>>140893184
>for a class with no healing taunts or board clears
>>140896958
https://manacrystals.com/decklists/388-c-thun-rogue
>>140896981
Show me a rogue deck that beats Aggro or at least 3 of the top 5 decks in ladder atm
>>140897103
Prep+Sprint is 4 mana. :^)
>>140893531
uhhh what
hunter is the worst class in the game right now by far
>>140897043
fine, but for ladder to be 95% netdecks, and even worse 95% of the same 3 netdecks, indicates a toxic community. hearthstone is shit on the dev level and the player level
This is overrated in constructed. Fight me.
>be one week ago
>everybody in /hsg/ saying Knife Juggler is shit, and you should dust them
>WotOG release comes by
>Build Zoo
>keep winning games with Knife Juggler+Forbidden Ritual combo and a 9 attack Darkshire Councilman
It looks like Juggler losing that 1 attack point really made a difference, huh? I bet all of you peaople who dusted your copies feel pretty stupid right now.
>>140896625
>Facing rogues
>Facing hunters
How is rank 20 treating you?
>>140897348
it is. not gonna fight ya
>>140897348
dies to zoo
>>140897238
3 of the top 5 decks are C'Thun decks and C'Thun Rogue beats all other C'Thun decks.
>>140897238
any miracle/malygos rogue
>>140897365
you do realize dusting these gave you their full value back, right? which means one could just craft them back for the same amount of dust
boy I bet you feel stupid now
>tfw dunking 21 damage out of hand on a healadin for lethal
>the elephants will destroy you
Healadins are so obnoxious, feels good man.
whats worse?
Current zoo or undertaker hunter?
>>140897681
freeze mage
>you only had 1600 dust
>you're a poorfag
>you crafted Y'Shaarj
>>140897681
Pre-nerf Undertaker Hunter.
Current zoo loses to 1 damage board wipes.
FUCK WHY is this game so hard, im only at rank 10 it should be easy right now
>>140897681
>>140896787
Sounds like you're shit at rogue desu
>>140897784
Only if you can immediately take board control after
Otherwise they just refill it
I don't really like this new meta. Everyone is just playing c'thun decks or aggro. It's better than the old one but now there are so many play on curve and win decks and trying to play anything else is just asking to lose. I'm already so fucking sick of c'thun and it's 90% of the decks I play against. Now we get to have everyone curve out with the exact same minions! Oh boy!
>>140897742
Play Naga Warrior/Shaman (with big taunts and whatnot) or ramp druid. You'll be fine.
>>140897842
>3rd day of the season
>Rank 10
Rank 10 is basically rank 5 for the first week and a half of the month
>>140897961
Trying to play fatigue like you normally would is hard as fuck
I dont want to play midrange game i dont want to please stop forcing me to midrange every one of my decks
>>140897681
Zoo is pretty fucking bad especially when you draw like shit and they have a 3/2, a 2/2 with choice of draw, and a scaling 1/5 on turn 3 that you can't remove easily.
Not to mention any minion can become a 5/5 at a moment's notice or a 2/3 can be played that turns 1/1s into 2/2 Taunts
>>140897681
Undertaker hunter hands down
>>140897681
Current zoo
>Loses to Malygos Rogue
>Loses to new Patron
>Loses to Midrange Shaman (the one that runs Lightning Storm)
Eh, Undertaker Hunter was worse
I have 14k dust lying around.
Wat do. I wanted to make N'Zoth heal Pala. But aggro faggots and priest fuck it hard, right?
What about 2 Rogue decks? I could make Miracle and Deathrattle.
>>140898074
I feel like control style decks got even worse because midrange is so insane now and removal/board clears that aren't brawl just can't keep up. There are just way too many strong threats one after another. If you're not playing a proactive deck and they curve out you're just done. It fucking sucks
>>140897961
I'm currently running a Fatigue Mage deck with Reno/Elise/le meme god of random spells and so far it's been pretty good
>>140897320
The ladder system is to blame for that. Since everybody starts at 16 or below, it becomes a grind every single season. The incentive to climb the ladder as fast as possible is to play aggro because, your games are shorter and able to win more games over time. The ladder reset is the issue here. It would be better if players who made legend stay in legend, or everybody just go down 5 ranks from where they were when the season ended, instead of sending everybody back close to the beginning.
>>140896958
You could play Reno N'zoth C'thun like me and have the time of your life
>>140897348
Nah, it's good because Shaman decks have naturally lots of taunts.
fuck this highmane meme
>>140898293
I've played a fair bit of N'zoth paladin. Aggro's a bit of a mixed bag, I run infested tauren to help blunt them a little, but yeah, priest is a rough matchup, especially if they entomb good deathrattles like sylvanas and cairne.
What's the best priest deck these days?
>tfw my favorite deck bloodlust shaman is now fun again
Evolve Midrange Bloodlust shaman, hype as fuck
>>140898293
If you run double Forbidden Healing and good Taunts like Cyclopian Horror you should be fine.
Priest in general fucks Paladin hard so you just have to try and bait their good removal (Entomb) on lesser targets. Remember they love to take Tirion so they'll always hold onto Entomb for him, if you have multiple bombs in hand you should play them immediately after a card gets Entombed for the highest chance of it sticking to the board.
Since Priests are missing Lightbomb now you shouldn't really have any issues winning after pulling off N'Zoth
>>140897591
If you spent your dust on something else, like many people did, and don't have enough to craft them again, guess what? You have to crack open Classic packs again, or save up dust.
You're still stupid.
>>140898709
I tried out loyan's bloodlust shaman but I think that fucker got lucky or something. Way too many times I've come up against decks that pack a ton of taunt and it doesn't have any burn. A few games ago I had a druid at 2 health and he dropped that new vanilla 6/8 taunt and I lost because I had no way to get through it. Needs earth shocks and burn.
>>140898692
Probably c'thun priest. Trying to play control priest nowadays is just asking to get destroyed by c'thun druids
>>140897917
Well, I was thinking of patron when I said that.
>>140898871
>Needs earth shocks and burn.
Check this deck out senpai, it's what I'm running https://manacrystals.com/decklists/475-serology-s-darwin-midrange-shaman-feat-evolve
>>140898851
>he actually believes people don't have dust to craft two rares back
sorry m8 not everyone is as poor as you lol
>>140898851
I spent all my dust on something else, but because I'm not shit I just did two arena runs to save up enough dust to craft two rares.
Just won like 6 games in a row with this piece of shit hunter deck in wild.
Feign Death on golem webspinner is always fun.
>tfw c'thun decks are worse than FoN+Savage Roar
Great game blizz
Fandral is F U N
>>140899454
more like OP
>>140898851
Spending your DE dust before the meta settles is the one thing you could do that's more retarded than not dusting nerfed cards in the first place.
Juggler was known to still be good the day after wotog dorpped so literally everyone with just an ounce of willpower crafted them back right there because they didn't spend their dust on LE EBIN NEW CARDS that probably turned out to be the shitty ones.
You're still retarded
>>140899389
FoN Combo could go face, C'thun is unreliable against board presence
>>140898871
Was it this one?
http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/decks/loyans-wotog-season-25-standard-1-aggro-shaman/
Because I couldn't get much luck out of it either. Could had just been I was too used to other variations
>>140899527
But if the c'thun player has any board you just lose anyway. They drop 20+ damage onto your board and then their minions just kill you anyways. Brain dead as fuck and now only requires 1 card.
>>140899527
Not him but C'thun decks are really boring and not fun at all to play against. The fucking epitome of the curve out to win boring midrange playstyle, and multiple classes get to play it.
I'm so glad they make up 50+% of the meta now. Fun!
>>140899695
If you let them get a 20+ c'thun that's your deal.
Kill those midgets
>>140897348
dies to BGH
>>140899527
Also unfair against non minion focused decks
Blizzard is forcing arena type play in constructed down everybodys throats
six down, three to go
>>140899748
So you're saying
>cancel their battlecries
>remove brann the turn they play it
>play mana wraith
We cant do any of those things
>>140899909
Play a faster deck or cancer warrior
>maxed out gold for the day
why is there even a limit
>>140899828
Check out fiddy cent over here
Just logged on in a long while(Last time i played way during TGT) and i hardly comprehend half the shit that is being played right now. Heard about standard and decided to take a look. Currently on the fence about dusting some cards.
>Double Molten giants for Double shadowcaster
Used to play echo giants and old handlock(So many variants of it now it seems) and Miracle rogue seems like in a good spot.
>Golden Tinkmaster for Yogg/N'zoth or Twin emperors.
Leaning toward the twin emperors since relying on RNG while fun has screwed me sideways before.
>>140899964
Bots
Which ironically doesn't stop bots
>>140899964
bots
>>140899797
>Blizzard is forcing arena type play in constructed down everybodys throats
Fucking this. Midrange meta is the worst.
>>140899748
Playing 2x arrakoa, cultist panada-man and beckoner of evil means you only need to have that little gnome faggot in play for 1 turn each. Plus it's not like 15 damage is much better.
>>140899797
>non minion focused decks
kill yourself freeze player
>>140900065
makes them way less profitable though
>>140899828
>>140900161
Malyrogue actually
suicide off of a coffee table zoo player
>>140900161
shut the fuck up cuckthun
>>140899828
>2 shield slams
wow...
>>140899797
>Blizzard is forcing arena type play in constructed
>midrange is dead
>arena tempo rogue isn't viable in constructed
I dunno m8. It's mostly memerange shaman (aggro shell with evolve and fire elementals), hunter with reach and C'thun decks "play X/X+1 C'thun minions on curve".
>>140899389
>this shitter already forgot the evil days pre-patch
lmao kill yourself
every time i see i'm up against a c'thun deck i praise god for the free win
>>140900258
holy shit mana addict is a fun one of in miracle
>running out of options as you dont draw auctioneer
>yolo stealth mana addict and do 15-30 damage if it survives assuming you saved key spells for you auctioneer
>There are people whining ITT they can't hold 9 spells in hand and OTK someone from 30 because muh C'thun
Shut the fuck up
This isn't magic
>>140900363
>Midrange is dead
All of those decks you mentioned are midrange. Midrange is fucking thriving.
>>140900485
but freeze mage isnt hindered by c'thun
>>140900336
still won.
>>140900485
It's also not ygo nigger
>>140900583
Every game has an "Exodia"
>>140900620
What's Magic's Exodia(s)?
>>140900620
Every game that isnt hearthstone has mechanics to counter exodia
Mechanics
Is this the OC thread?
>>140900694
There's tons of em, it's usually cards that require all colors.
>>140900485
It's not even that.
Midrange is just straight up boring as fuck, and the fact that at least half the decks you play nowadays are brainless c'thun decks make the game a lot less fun, c'thun druid being the worst offender.
>>140900698
>Thinking blizzard will ever put up a sideboard or a graveyard
>>140900725
So Rainbow decks are the equivilant of Exodia decks? Sounds inconsistent
>>140900775
Until its a thing or discard becomes a dual usage ability cthun has no counters besides playing the same way
>>140896368
>>140896368
this isnt that good
this card is only really good if you can combo it with meme cards
>>140900813
>rainbow decks
get with the times grandpa
>really want to make N'zoth rogue work
>Somewhat decent matchup against agro decks if i don't mulligan like shit
>Mfw other control decks still beat me almost every time since they have superior board clears
Feels bad man. I really want to get my golden rogue someday but playing the class is such a struggle in ranked.
>>140900775
>Blizzard continues to print very specific counter cards in a game with no sideboard even in a tournament setting
>>140900813
>Rainbow decks
Anon please, there's so much mana fixing nowadays playing conflux is nothing
Besides emrakul is colorless so there's an exodia you don't even need any colors for
what are current arena class power rankings ?
This guy is pretty good in paladin'zoth
>Yogg-Saron for 17 spells
>He casts Thoughtsteal three times, stealing two Sylvanas, two Corrupted Healbots and a Justicar Trueheart
All the times he's fucked me in the ass prior were worth it
why is shifter zerus so fun???
>>140901006
I'm not even in the old times. Everything I know about Magic has been through /hsg/ and a few friends that used to play.
Are there any other cards like this, or is White the only colour that can pull the wonky win cons?
>>140899315
Anybody can get at least 4 wins in arena.
>>140899525
>NOT dusting nerfed cards is retarded
>Juggler is still good
If Juggler is still good, then why even disenchant him? It really calls you card evaluation skills into question when you hit the DE button because, you thought losing that 1 attack made him unplayable. The only cards that should have been dusted are Arcane Golem, Master of Disguise, and maaaaaaaybe Blade Flurry and Keeper of the Grove.
>>140901134
shit tier
hunter
fun ruining
mage
okay tier
everything else
post STORIES
>>140900694
There's a few cards that say "You win the game" on them. One of the most egregious (and thus banned in a lot of formats) is coalition victory.
The opposite would be "target opponent loses the game" which is seen on Door to Nothingness http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=288992
There's also cards that prevent winning or losing, such as Platinum Angel http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=401640
and Abyssal Persecutor http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=389422
>>140901210
It's irrelevant if juggler remains good because you literally lose nothing by dusting him with a full refund.
Do C'Thuntrol Warriors run double brawl?
>>140901310
some do some don't
>playing cancer C'thun druid
>only win condition is dropping my C'thun after he's massive, as I basically only run minions that are synergistic
>get him up to 19 attack
>drop emperor
>next turn play brann, inervate, C'thun
>kill my opponent from over 20 health and two big guys on the board
>I can feel his rage
>Spectacular!
This meta is so fun
>>140901310
it depends on your playstyle and the decks you're facing
Should I bother saving gold to unlock the LoE wings?
>>140901560
every single legendary in there is useable
probably the most value you're going to get out of an adventure
>>140901560
All the legendaries other than Rafaam are playable so definitely
>>140901268
>>140900694
For posterity's sake here's a list of all alternate win condition cards. This doesn't include stuff like Triskaidekaphobia that makes other people lose the game.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=29924
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=2394
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=265418
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=136048
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=288878
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=366414
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=24567
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=29978
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=43548
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=33697
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=401878
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=407567
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=150992
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=366244
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=230788
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=180620
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=369038
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=135259
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=193467
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=73959 (from a joke set)
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=9773 (Likewise)
>>140901209
White has the most, but every colour has at least one and so do artifacts.
>>140901661
Rafaam is playable in brawls though.
>tfw ram wrangler gets you a jungle moonkin
>against freeze mage
>>140901774
fuck freeze mage
THE most anti-fun deck in a game full of awesome decks
>All 5 of the decks you made with last meta's dust and gold is consistently keeping you between rank 18 and 19 in the current meta
I just don't know anymore.
>>140901661
rafaam has been used in tournaments though
>Playing Shaman
>Control Priest over and over again
>Go on losing streak back to 19
>As soon as I hit 19 come up against a Control Paladin who counters everything I do
How the hell is Shaman supposed to cope with Control, exactly?
>>140901139
yes I want nothing more than to heal my enemy
>>140901287
Except for the dissatisfaction in knowing that you were wrong, your card analysis is shitty, and have to click the enchant button.
>>140901883
lol
>>140901883
>Oh no something's wrong, my cancer deck has a weakness PLS FIX BLIZZARD
>>140901139
I'm building a N'Zoth Pally right now and I'm kinda curious if I should run him.
On one hand, having a 6/6 for 5 mana is pretty good because it can trade with every Standard 5 drop and notable things like Twin Emps. It also trades with Sylvanas well due to the Deathrattle being beneficial to your opponent and it leaving Healbot with 1 health.
But if you run 2 then you're giving your opponent 16 health worth of healing and 32 if you get both off N'Zoth.
Is it worth it being a removal target for the stats?
I'm also wondering if I should be building N'Zoth lists more like Midrange with notable minions like Twilight Summoner, Tirion, Sylvanas, Infested Tauren, etc.
Or should I go more Control with double Doomsayer and Equality/Pyro?
>>140901886
>he thinks zombie chow was a bad card
F U N S T O R I E S
>>140901719
Every time I see this card I shed a single tear of joy.