Dominions edition
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Dominions is a fantasy turn-based strategy game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.
The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 2800 units, 800 spells and 300 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them.
It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.
Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a strategy game.
>Steamgroup
Join the steamgroup for multiplayer
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya
>Group chatroom
steam://friends/joinchat/103582791434709795
>Our work-in-progress wiki
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki
>Our pastebin
http://pastebin.com/dHdZ1cch
>Dom4 Manual
http://jaffa.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf
>Dom4 Inspector
This is a community resource that has every unit, spell, and item in the game in an accessible database.
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/
>Play by email guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551
>Debug Mod:
For testing battle formations and spells
http://dom4archive.kermodebear.org/www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/debug-mod.html
>Where do I get it?
It is available on Gamersgate and Steam. Desura may or may not be ded.
>THE BASICS
>Read the manual
>Read the wiki
>Read the pastebin
>Watch some LPs by Maerlande or NuclearMonkee
>Start playing multiplayer games
Submit completed games here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1jHX_ZoJi6zIvDq6ANdp-W1Y89W5_fmShuDyHmAj5qC4/viewform
Results Here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dlrvyEqLFYIaXRc49TheMmfdoP8jEh1m5rZJHJAzDWQ/edit?usp=sharing
First for hardcore Aboleth rape.
Second for have you bullied an elf today?
Third for Ichtyids.
>>140741667
Why is /domg/ so hellbent on bullying innocent and civilized elfs?
Have you cuddled a lizard today?
>>140742335
To remove elven degeneracy from our great game.
>>140742548
Geckos a shit.
>>140741440
Is that an angel for ants?
I got my ban in you Sunday degenerates
Still at 4/10 teams. The schematics of the draft have been updated on the page.
If you're interested in the game, but are a friendless loner, you can always state your interest in the game on the thread so that others know you're interested in it to get in contact with you.
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/0/364040166674562077/
>>140748328
This is why I hate outdoor cafes in cities
Play your turns
Post your memes.
>>140757493
When I visited Florence I hit a pigeon with a shopping bag. It was great, 10/10.
>>140763154
>Milan
>Florence
What other Italian cities have you visited, /domg/?
Should I GoR this guy and thug him? Does anyone know what slots and paths he has, if any? It's silly, but he's so freaking cute.
>>140765961
No slots/10.
>>140765961
The mod inspector says that they don't get any slots aside from 2 misc ones, and its stats aren't good enough to survive more than 1 or 2 PD at most.
>>140763378
The only Italian city I've seen is Rome.
Well, that and Pompeii, but I'm not sure that counts as a city anymore.
>>140763378
Rome, Milan, Florence, San Gimignano, Salerno, Siena, Urbino, and some others I'm forgetting.
>Expecting a big battle next turn
>the person who you're fighting with stales and doesn't initiate the combat
REEEEEEEEEEE
>Put off turn for as long as possible because I'm going to have to script fucktons of mages
>Eventually decide to just hide in my fort instead.
I am the worst. At least I'm not actually the last person to submit my turn.
>>140761249
do not play turns
Not sure if anyone really cares who's not in the game, but there's a new post blogging about the Dominions D&D game.
>>140774502
Did they fug yet?
>>140774502
Forgot about that
explains why the thread and the chat room has been so ded.
>>140774715
The Ulmish priest used his magic to warm up the cold-blooded, which was a cute thing to do.
Friendly reminder that Pale Ones are shit.
>>140768948
Hahahaha
http://intensemath.com/frame.html
Hot, arcane amazon-on-amazon action!
>>140775595
nice mage support agartha
>>140775595
And nothing of value was lost that day, for either side.
>>140775595
>recruiting shamblers
>ever
literally the only excuse is if there's some open UW provinces, and all you got is a shambler province.
>>140775595
>Pale Ones are shit
70 sacreds is pretty scary desu senpai.
>>140777706
Basically siege chaff
>>140778249
Agartha should never use shamblers for that, when they have Pale One Militia, the best recruitable seige chaff in the game.
>>140776534
>Autoplaying music
What the shit Cirno
>>140783156
html is new to me man.
The font was fucking papyrus a while ago.
>>140775595
Friendly reminder to use Agarthan MAGE SUPPORT which is top.
>>140775595
Friendly reminder you're an incompetent moron. You're fighting an army of ethereal nerds, and didn't think to pack a flame child or any mages?
You can't spell slaughter without a way to counter Mass Regeneration, Army of Foo and similar turn 91 shenanigans.
Alas, dear Ulm.
And yes, those basically all did spam Magma Eruption. No, it wasn't very watchable.
>>140788358
What is Army of Foo?
>>140788358
>killed a demon lord
>and a moose
I'm just gonna go ahead and chalk this one up as a victory.
>>140789623
Army of Gold or Lead
>>140789759
How did you kill the Demon Lord?
>>140790134
Do -you- want to watch a battle with 116 master smiths spamming Magma Eruption every single turn?
>>140788358
>>140789759
How did Ulm not have his own army of lead and other such spells by turn 91?
He has 120 mages, so research shouldn't be the problem, and his army should have won by sheer weight of numbers (and also not being mostly chaff) if it had similar buffs.
>>140790372
I've seen worse.
>>140790134
No clue. It was behind all of Jotun's other troops most of the battle, and disappeared at some point. I would assume it flew forward into melee and got itself killed but I couldn't find it anywhere.
>>140790424
I had Army of Lead/Will of the Fates, but Jotunheim had those and Mass Regen/Wind of Death/Curse of Stones/Fog Warriors/etc etc. Basically all the end-game spells. I didn't have much path diversity outside of my pretender because I am bad at this and my research wasn't that great because for most of the game my mages were driving off Arco/Agartha.
>>140790424
Here
>>140790791
Yes, well, I tried to watch it and my Dominions crashed a few turns in..
>>140790975
Wait. How in the hell do you lose research?
>>140791672
Seems to happen when you hit level 9 in a school. At a guess, the RP per turn is added, then on the next turn it corrects itself and removes the extra which was wasted from the graph.
>>140791359
Yeah, same thing happened to me.
Literally couldn't watch the battle that opened with me walking into Master Enslave x2 in the first round. Mass regened, army of fooed, reliefed, fog warriors, demon knights do not kill each other very fucking fast at all.
Went to auto-route. I technically lost.
Here are your pretender names, memelords
>>140794785
Awake Expansion Pretender... nice double bluff. Certainly a double bless imprisoned monolith.
>>140795502
Do you really think someone would do that, just go ahead and lie on the internet?
>>140795502
Why don't you just look at their titles and do the maths? Or heck, paste them here and I'll do the work for you.
>>140796485
All info is off, you can't see titles.
>>140796485
Lanka usually do bless right? Can Lanka work well with awake SC?
Can tartarians heal afflictions? I';ve had the chalice on one for like 6 months and it still hasn't grown his arms yet
>>140800943
GoH only not chalice. Chalice aint work on undead.
>>140801067
Oh yeah, shit, I forgot completely about that, thanks. Time for empowerment I guess
>>140800943
if this is domgnatgen fuck you, i wanted the chalice for my feebleminded wrong transformation Naiad and my old mages, and you aren't even using it
>>140801292
Nah, unless this is an incredible coincidence and you're one of my korean friends
Just a reminder, but the VGL roster poll is still ongoing. I think we're not going to get much in the way of additional votes, but if you haven't already voted you can go to https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1gG6JESQXZ3MKZwwg9QBZRGlXw4y_WgCJj05BHTY4K68/viewform#responses
I'll probably close the poll at, oh let's say 16:00 UTC. The penultimate standings are:
21 Turnbullying
20 100 PD
20 erf snek
19 Forester Bob
19 Quadbless Mictlan
18 2000 ghosts in a fort
17 Angry Stone Face
16 itdepends
16 >stabbed by a methhead
15 6 Months of SP
15 Giant Man-Eating Jews
15 Heroic Obesity
15 Illfraud
15 Ulm - Waiting For Turn File
14 Remove Elves
13 Astral 1
13 meme game/memegames
13 Thursday/The Patch That Was Thursday
11 Bane Lord
11 Muuch Muuch/Frog Mathematics
11 Useless Kick
10 Pankoman
10 Renowned Harvard Mage
9 Burden of Time
8 Bizarre Monogamy
8 Desura Thug
8 Ermor/Tribless Ermor
7 >balance
7 Have we checked on Ermor?
7 Lugh the Long Handed
7 Scrub Club
4 Cirno's perfect Sauromatia guide
4 Pan was right
4 Summod Poison Golems/Free Poison Golems
3 2000 underwater ghosts in a fort/Underwater Archers/Korybantz
1 Crix's Deathbasket
>>140803498
Pan was right
>>140801292
Cuck.
>>140803498
Oh, and I forgot the cutoff line. It's between 10 and 9 votes right now.
>>140790896
I just woke up, how did you kill a moose and my favourite pokemon?
>>140806242
Simple. Unlike me, you forgot to prophet your moose.
>>140806904
My prophet has been alive all game, I can't kill him now.
Also, it looks as though that moose died to winds of death. I don't know why I'm always the only person who can watch my big battles.
Pazuzu just fucks off for no reason, which makes me suspect I accidentally set him to retreat. Even though he goes offscript and casts stuff I didn't ask for.
>>140808107
>MR 8
HAHAHAHAHA
>>140808196
Yes, I knew it would probably die but crippling half of Ulm's army straight away whatever the outcome is worth it.
>>140794785
I got that reference.
gee kraken, how come your mom lets you wield THREE frostbrands?
>>140812847
>not getting 3 extra hands
>>140812847
NO ARMOR
>>140812930
but how?
>>140812943
N4E4, m8. It's strength of gaia + shitskin etc.
>>140813009
Copper Arm.
>>140813130
>>140813162
Good idea, although can you get out of the water without amulet of the fish then? if not, 1 extra arm will have to do.
>>140813017
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/gee-bill-how-come-your-mom-lets-you-eat-two-weiners
I was gonna post the 'Gee Olmec, how come your god lets you have four blesses?' picture but apparently I haven't saved it.
>>140813315
Why are you telling that to me? I'm a certified meme professional.
>>140812847
>not 5 gloves of the gladiator
are you even trying?
>>140812930
>2 misc slots
>3 extra hands
try again
>>140814391
>not 5 swords of quickness
555-come-on-now
>>140814495
I'm good at this game, not at math. It's Cirno's prerogative.
Hey Caelum, are you around? If so, can we chat? Otherwise our borders are going to be a complete shitshow.
>>140814864
You are right, gloves is 2handed and 4 atts, swiftness is 1h and 2 atts. 2 gloves and 1 sword maybe?
But the true att disher needs boots/armor for quickness.
I´d say crone because lots of copper arms, but as a pretender she cant get into HoF and get even more quickness.
Some monkey summon is the primary candidate I guess. Ofc its all a waste since only 1 square per attack...
>>140815158
Caelum wants your forts. Like he wants every fort apparently.
>>140812847
>no black heart
are you even trying?
also sorry for stalling. forgot to do my turn at midnight like I planned
>>140812847
Is this the one I accidently killed in the blitz with quadbless memeland?
>>140818458
No, I think Therio just copied my memekraken, I wasn't in that game.
This is why we should play a item mod blitz.
>>140819824
HOST NOW
>>140819824
>unit mod
>buffs Ermor
>no change to Ma Xibalba
>>140821132
He's not trying to be balanced
Meme Niefelheim, are you here?
>>140823016
Boo.
>>140823229
If that is you, can you get in the steam chat for a moment?
>>140823484
I am already there.
>>140821132
It's not done yet.
>Everyone gave me pearls (or is otherwise helping out in squid removal i.e. Mictlan) other than C'tis
. . . .should I be worried that 360ish overcast isn't enough because of secret funding?
>>140825159
>should I be worried
Always.
Squid is friend
>>140825735
Squid is not online to accept friend invite
So no, squid is quite literally, not a friend. According to Steam anyway.
>>140825735
Squid killed my wolves, and made sure that my parties were populated only by women in their late thirties.
>>140826413
Don't be hatin on milfs now.
>>140825735
Blitz to test out the new magic enhanced mod.
>>140803498
Alright, poll's closed! Final standings:
---Starters and GKs:
22 Turnbullying (gold, captain)
21 100 PD (GK)
21 erf snek (medal)
21 Forester Bob (medal)
21 Quadbless Mictlan (medal)
19 2000 ghosts in a fort (GK)
19 Giant Man-Eating Jews
18 Angry Stone Face(GK)
18 itdepends
17 Heroic Obesity
17 >stabbed by a methhead
16 Illfraud
16 Remove Elves
---Bench players:
15 6 Months of SP
15 Ulm - Waiting For Turn File
14 Astral 1
14 Useless Kick
13 memegames
13 Thursday
12 Bane Lord
12 Muuch Muuch
11 Burden of Time
11 Pankoman
---Cutoff Line
10 Lugh the Long Handed
10 Renowned Harvard Mage
9 Desura Thug
9 Tribless Ermor
8 Bizarre Monogamy
8 Have we checked on Ermor?
7 >balance
7 Scrub Club
4 Cirno's perfect Sauromatia guide
4 Pan was right
4 Free Poison Golems
3 2000 underwater ghosts in a fort
1 Crix's Deathbasket
Thank you for voting, everyone. I'm not sure who's going to be the second gold player since it ended with a three-way tie, but if you have any argument for a certain candidate feel free to post.
The VGL6 qualifiers will be May 27th-29th, but we won't be participating in those. The draw will be after the qualifiers are over. The league proper will begin June 3rd.
HOLY SHIT
http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=2927
>>140829483
>no changelog
Times you learned something new about Dominions mechanics.
>Mage sitting comfortably in the capital on a stack of 20 researchers cast blessing of Thetis
>Don't bother scripting her because lazy
>Army swarms Atlantis and lays siege to their forts
>RANDOM fucking Abysian assassin kills my Enchantment mage on the first try out of 20 possible people it could attack
>Entire army on that border drowns minus the commanders holding wavebreakers
>mfw
>>140830467
Scripting doesn't work in assassinations
>>140830467
Victims don't follow their scripting in assassination attempts anyway. Next time give your important mages a bottle of water or something.
>>140830467
why the fuck would you bring your enchantment mage with you?
>>140830647
>>140830661
Oh well that makes me feel better, should have at least maybe thrown some body guards on he
>>140830684
I didn't my war on the other border with Abysia prompted them to send an assassin to my capital. It was the first attempt, the odds of them actually hitting her and not one of my bajillion enaries or soothsayers researching were like 1 in 25.
Another learning mechanics the hard way story here
>Figure out summon mechanic and decide to tap into huge pile of death gems
>Field massive wight army and decide to support it with some of my strongest mages
>Send it to attack Ulm and have it roll over their first few provinces
>Have entire mage cadre being guarded by wights
>Winter comes
>See combat report and and notice only my mages dying and no one else against an army of just 40 mercs
>Didn't realize cold could damage your own troops
>MFW checking the combat report
>>140833969
You noticed your mistakes and learned from it
Good padawan, you are on track
>>140833969
It's even more fun with Water Elementals.
They don't deal cold damage, but during winter they turn into Ice Elementals which do. I lost an entire army because of this once, because I equipped all mages and commanders with bottles of living water.
>>140829717
I know, right? How fucking worthless of a thread can you make
>>140835006
GODDAMMIT!!!
The fucking .dm doesn't have any changelog or notes either.
What a fucker.
>>140835378
He wants you to find out on your own, a steak must be savored etc.;)
>>140834547
So if you're going to make the bottle of water investment throw in a cold resistance item too?
>>140835875
May I suggest fire in a jar? Fire gems are less expensive then W ones and it is enough to stop auras.
>>140835875
Or cast frost fend.
>>140835854
Bullshit cocksucker excuse from a pissant.
>>140836861
I agree that not adding a changelog of any kind is dumb, but you seem a lot more upset than is warranted by something like this.
>>140833969
>Playing as Abysia with heat
The number of Militia, Crossbows, and hapless Commanders that have died due solely to poor positioning on my part is staggering.
>>140776534
>frame.html
Why
>>140783156
Here
http://intensemath.com/Sauromatia_Guide.html
>>140821132
Ermor needs a buff since they don't have ANY recruitable troops.
>>140839554
where the fuck did the song go
>>140840823
Here: http://intensemath.com/streladodia.html
>>140776534
Your site is extremely 90s.
The only thing that's missing is some animated gifs.
>>140843128
>>140843261
>Ermorian_standard_bearers.gif
I also have one where I learned the hard way.
>cross a frozen river in late winter into enemy territory to attack with my doomstack
>enemy moves his big army together with his pretender into that province at the same turn
>my troops loose but try to escape with quite a lot of units
>the frozen river isn't frozen anymore and my entire army gets vanquished
Watch the weather boys.
>>140829717
Real men don't read changelogs. In my day you figured out what a spell did by reading the description and KO's mind.
>>140839554
The frame.html is using iframes to keep the music continuous while browsing.
which is why its called frame.html.
>>140851058
>expert
citation needed
>>140851058
First of all, stop using iframes.
Second, stop playing music on your site.
What is this, 1992?
>>140851458
I find the music quaint.
Whats the problem with iframes? They seem so versatile.
>>140851302
Have you seen my sauro guide?
How do I stop being bad at Hinnom?
While the Melquarts are pretty strong and everything they still are so fucking expensive and I can't seem to get enough of them out since they are slow to recruit.
Also researching is so hard because everything is expensive in upkeep.
Should I just use a massive bless and beef up my melqs and giants in general even more to make the viable?
>>140853384
>I find the music quaint.
It's annoying. At least make it so it doesn't autoplay, so the user can choose whether they want it or not.
>Whats the problem with iframes? They seem so versatile.
Lots of things. Most notably they tend to fuck with accessibility browsers, they make saving/printing pages a pain, they trip up search engine indexing, and they make it extremely annoying to bookmark pages.
There's literally nothing you can do with frames that you can't do with plain old HTML, with maybe some SSI or a bit of PHP if you want to be fancy. Especially if your only goal is to play some annoying music, there's literally no excuse to use frames.
>>140854027
>some annoying music
Thats the dom4 main song you're talking about.
>>140853497
step one is to stop using Raphael warriors if you were wasting time with that. I usually go very heavy scales and tailor my pretender to summon grigori if I survive that long. You can also go N9 for jewish giants or A4 to make your A2 amnis much more useful in combat
>>140854346
>playing with the music on
>>140829483
>Research 0 S1 Stellar Cascades
What a meme.
>>140829483
>http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=2927
>>140827458
>>140854991
It only has aoe 1, so you need 5 S1 casters to equal a regular casting of Stellar Cascades...
Blitz in some 25 minutes.
With this thing: http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1461945123482.png
>>140856027
Well, that's not as silly as giving anakites shadowbrands, but it's still a hard counter to awake pretenders.
Whoa. Is MA Mari viable now?
>>140856274
>unit mod
I suppose it serves its niche. Much like Flatus ensures no other map has to take the title 'least balanced', unit mod probably does the same for mods.
While things like domgmod/summod annoy me, at least they attempt (and arguably succeed) and increasing balance, instead of going lawl lets buff MA Ermor.
>>140856937
If the best they can do is still fireballs and flaming arrows, nope
>>140829483
>ermor has a global that is wailing winds on every battlefield
>castable by duskelders using available boosters
>very castable by a native hero
>it also spans sacreds with insta kill
You might have some balance work left.
>>140856860
Hmmm, the 100 Precision aspect means even at aoe 1 it is probably too powerful. I'll reduce it to Prec 5 for the final release.
>>140857167
Such butthurt.
>>140857394
It's less butthurt, and more obvious fact. Well, the lack of balance, maybe not the least balanced. I've been told there's some other really shitty mods for balance out there.
Apparently.
Since this >>140857298
sounds more nutso than units with firebrands.
>>140857635
You're delusional if you think those modes are for balance.
>>140857167
Why are you telling this to me?
Yo senpaitachi
Thought y'all should have a look at the REAL charts, not some JEWISH LIES and PROPAGANDA they created to make the GLORIOUS REICH look bad.
>>140825159
D-did I donate the most, Man-chan?
>>140830467
When I was a young noob, I lost an entire army of bats and demons to a dispelled Thetis's blessing.Now I cast it to lure others into the deeps and then dispel it myself
>>140856860
Like phantasmal warriors and animate skelly?
Awake expanders can't really handle mages to begin with.
>>140859120
No, though I was the second highest by a sliver. 240 pearls is worlds more than I had available, and apparently worlds more than anyone else did either.
Only people who donated nothing are C'tis and Mictlan (and obviously R'yleh, but duh). In Mictlan's case, he's fighting the squids in the water, so he's doing his part. Not sure about C'tis . . .
Glad to see I'm sort of maintaining parity in research and gem income (I'd even be 2nd behind you if not for these gemgen globals), judging by the fact you have Lemuria's graphs I'm assuming this is from a site, and you didn't go through the trouble to askashic record literally everyone.
>>140859451
These are challenges to erf snek. A number of awake expanders do fine vs them. Basically anything that has more than fear for offense.
>>140859824
So I'm fucking tired and misread what you said. Yes you did donate the most pearls, followed by me, then Pythium, then Agartha.
>>140857298
Mods have to buff Ermor. It's the law.
The spell is currently for MA Ermor and Lemuria and Ench8, 5D3S and 75 gems. I could make it Ench9, 5D5S and 100 gems. Or I could just make it Lemuria only like I originally planned.
Also looking like a 4 man race, between Man, Pythium, Ulm, and Agartha, given the research-o-meter and gem-incomo-meter.
>>140859824
>>140859985
Wooooooo
Ulm is number 1 in shiny white shit!
C'tis is cute, but if I find out that he's been funding TERRORISM, then I'm going to bend him over, lift his tail and ram some Panzer tanks up his ass.I'm secretly a panther otherkin. I fantasize about going to the bakery, asking for a loaf of bread and then transforming into a panther while the serving lady is turned around. When she faces me, she'll be greeted with my gigantic 7.5 cm KwK 42 L/70 primed with a high explosive 75×640 mm R round, just ready and waiting to BURST all over her face. My massive 6.87 by 3.42 meter body will shock and arouse her so much that she'll start begging me to blow her up.
>>140860185
Can I have that retroactively added to this game? Maybe along with a spell to counter flames from the sky (other than call of the wind), and a spell to tell me what the fuck is causing all these game glitches (immortals shouldn't die in friendly dom . . . though the loss of 110 death gems is somewhere around 'mildly annoying', the fact it happened is worrying.)
>>140860508
10/10
>>140860508
Yeah, I've already begun losing mages to this shit. Got real old real fast.
Literally.
>>140860754
>I've already begun losing mages to this shit
>>140860508And then you try to turn while standing still and catch on fire.
And 5 Americans walk up and laugh as they kick the shit out of you.
>>140860185
Why not make it D5A3, which is harder for ermor to get by a lot, and closer to the underlying spell in path requirements.
Also, possibly Evo 9, which is (arguably) less helpful to ermor than ench 9, and is also in the same school as wailing winds.
(I'm going through national spells in mod inspector and taking notes right now).
>>140861409
Be careful, the inspector doesn't like #copyspell and reports elements from the original spells that were overwritten. Check the mod commands to see the actual values.
Interesting ideas about the Global, like I said it was mainly included as a way for Lemuria to actually win fights and Ermor just got it as a byproduct. I could make the Ermor version a bitch to cast and the Lemuria version easier due to their stronger connection to disembodied souls. Plus them being shit and all.
>>140864004
Yes, we are a shit tier nation only capable of eating stallers and AIs, or those worse than AIs. Well that, and making wizards towers filled with ghosts.
We needz the buffs. Make ghosts great (not again though, that would imply they were ever great).
anyone want to sub ulm with 2000+ income and basically assured to WIN?
>>140868073
Which age?
>>140860571
Yeah I dunno what the fuck that was about. I'm preaching hard on those provinces, maybe they temporarily flippled?
And did your Tartarian just disappear? I assumed he was supposed to come cast Rain of Stones again and just decided to... fuck off?
I dunno man. I'd rather our war not be decided by lame bugs :(
>>140869703
Oh, interesting. In the Turn Order section of the manual, Preaching happens very early in the turn, before any battles, but Dominion Spread (presumably other checks?) happen near the end. Sounds like that might've caused it.
Hay guysss, new turn!
>>140869703
the tart went . . . places. It was weird.
As for the immortal, the place had 6 candles. If it was 1 candle, yeah, I'd buy that for sure. Seems really unlikely though.
Gonna go look the old turn up for science, just to save me some time, the reanimated kings cannot preach, correct? They can only reanimate?
So the province had 4 candles the prior turn, which means H1s could preach it down. That would be what killed my immortal then. Guess I'll need to be more careful with my immortals then :(
As for the Tart, he's fine, he just somehow set his fly boots to turbo. He'll come back . . .eventually. (and no, I don't understand how that happened either).
>>140870447
Got it in! Might be a little slow tomorrow, have 3 finals. But I shouldn't stale
>>140857167
It doesn't actually buff Ermor much though, since their stuff costs death gems. When everything is done, Ermor will be comparatively weaker by virtue of getting less buff than everyone else.
>>140869703
I know what you mean, last turn I swear I had dominion 4 and now I cant raise it above three.
*Skeletons rattle nervously*
>>140859824
I actually sent in most of my pearls.
>>140874949
I'm wondering if Arco will go the way of Gath, domkilled by accident.
>>140875780
Whoops, saw Agartha's message underneath that explaining how he didn't have pearls at the moment, and would send some later . . .
But yeah, considering your gem income, you did fine. Sorry about that, just running off 2 hours of sleep in the last 3 days.
With Agarthans, you lose
>>140871681
Yes, my undead priests cannot Preach, however the Lizard Kings and Sauromancers can.
It still doesn't make much sense though. Despite what >>140869956 said, both Preaching and Dominion spread happen before battles.
>>140879536
No idea then. All I know is I'm gonna stick with 2 WoD and retreating from now on.
Or dudes with 3 items. We all love dudes with 3 items.
>>140879536
Are you sure about that?
6. Preach Priests preach the word of their god, and dominion is adjusted accordingly
22. Other movement All other movement, including Break Siege, takes place.
23. Resolve battles All battle resolution from movement happens here.
38. Dominion spread All dominion spread (for whatever reason) is conducted now.
The only battles that happen after Dominion Spread are "leftover battles caused by previous events" whatever that exactly means.
>>140880385
Oh shit, I mis-read. I thought 43. Resolve Battles was normal battles, but apparently that's just from movement,
HOLY CRAP, PREACHING IS THE ANSWER TO GHOSTS. The power of snake christ compels you, Lemuria!
I need a volunteer to sub or set AI. Ctis, turn 30, sieged, but with a bunch of rescuers attacking your attacker.
>>140881023
Things I did not expect to be nearly so important this game:
Preaching mechanics
Call of the Winds vs Flames from the Sky
Domes
Things I did:
Horror mechanics
>>140881352
I don't want to join a game right now, but I can set him AI if you don't get anyone else.[email protected]
>>140881352
Nobully?
Team 1, pick your goddamn nation.
>>140883413
I wondered where the bully was. I looked around at all near me, and saw none, until I looked into the clear lake.
The bully was me all along.
>>140883413
Nope, dom4mods game.
Agartha, it would be good to talk if you are around. We have some mutual bullying to conclude.
>>140885062
I hope it's not against me; Agartha would be of little aid versus me.
>>140885985
They'r obviously talking about me, hence the 'conclude'.
>>140885985
Don't worry, I'm not planning on bothering you as long as you stay out of my back garden, I've already got troublesome dead elves mucking about over there annoying me ineffectually.
>>140886237
Good. I would be incensed if I turn a blind eye while my neighbor gets double-teamed, only to be rewarded with aggression.
remember a dead elf is a good elf, and africans choosing to ally with already half dead elves is quite disgusting to say the least
>>140886991
>[current year anno pantokrator]
>still not trusting elves
>>140890897
>trusting elves
Currently at 5/10 teams in. There were several people who expressed interest, but are currently lacking a team, if you hunt around on the steam chat.
Link is here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/0/364040166674562077/
Newfag here.
Read everything in op-post, played some SP games, its ok to go MP? Have some EXP with TBS.
>>140891746
You'll probably do absolutely fine. Go ahead and give it a try. Just remember that you can always ask questions, and that talking to your neighbours is one of the best ways to stay alive.
>>140858780
>Not something to make you look bad.
Ulm.
Ulm, sweetie.
If you wanted to not look bad, maybe don't post a chart showing you behind in research compared to not just Pythium but also Man, while playing as LA Ulm, the supreme research nation, and having the largest nation with the most income.
>>140893714
>tfw not toppest nation
>>140891746
Check you can get at least 12 provinces in year 1 with the nation/pretender you're joining with. Apart from that, you should be fine.
>>140893884
I'm going to note that you should be aiming for 12+ without an awake pretender. An awake pretender is for when you want to get past that, it's not a crutch to get to a mediocre expansion.
>>140893884
Honestly, make that fifteen. Expanding one province/turn for all of year one is horribly, horribly slow. And while an experienced player might be able to use overwhelming late game to make up for that, I don't think a new player can.
>>140893884
Also, about the races. Which one can you advice for the 1st time MP?
>>140894394
The one you like best.
>>140894394
There's a lot of good ones, depending on era and playstyle. Tell us a bit about what you enjoy doing so we can narrow it down for you?
>>140893714
This just in
Shots fired.
>>140894214
Yeah, with awake I'd estimate you should be aiming for at least 20. You could get nearly 12 provinces in a year with your awake expander on his own.
>>140894319
New players are also going to be worse at expansion though. Some of the nations with poor expansion can have trouble doing better than 12 provinces without an awake expander, though a new player probably shouldn't play them.
>>140894394
Hard to say. There's some races which are bad for first time players which we can warn you away from, but most will be fine. Tell us what nations look interesting to you and we can point out any which would be a bad choice.
>>140895736
Yeah, the whole "nations with poor expansion thing" is the reason I'm advocating 15 desu. Bogarus, f'instance, is not a weak nation, but it's not something a new player ought to play. They won't make it to the late game, and they won't be able to leverage their magic well enough to overcome the enemy even if they do.
>>140896430
Its one of the reasons EA/MA Pan gets recced to newbies so often. Between amazing W9 expansion, fantastic troops, and recoup, they're very forgiving.
>>140894532
In the Early Era i liked C'This and Sauromatia, but i havent played other era's that much.
Ok, what nations should i NOT play as a newbie?
>>140896931
Sauromatia is a fine nation. C'tis is a bit on the weak side. Nations you for sure oughtn't play I'd say include:
EA: Marverni, Abysia, Helheim, Kailasa, Ur, R'lyeh, Atlantis.
MA: Man, Eriu, Marignon, Mictlan, Shinuyama.
LA: Pythium.
I'd also include the popkill nations Therodos, MA Ermor, Asphodel and LA R'lyeh, just because they're a bit complicated to get the hang of.
>>140897351
>EA Helheim
>hard
>>140897351
Uh, and Lemuria. So bad I forgot they exist.
>>140897351
Thx.
Also, what Age is played more frequently in MP?
>>140897351
You forgot Lemuria.
>>140897351
If EA Atlantis is on that list, every UW nation should be on that list.
You also forgot to include Machaka (EA and MA) and Hinnom.
>>140897654
I take offense at such claims of us being a *bad* nation
We're a fucking horrible nation, unless Midgard derps around with a partial N bless, LA Atlantis forgets his magic weapons *somehow* and Caelum fucks off instead of even trying to fight.
>>140897643
Helheim is fucking atrocious. Sure, Valkyries are sweet as heck, and my inner seithkona wishes they were good, but Helheim as a whole is just not really something you can win with. They run out of gold and research, and their mages just don't do enough.
>>140897672
Frequency: EA > MA > LA
Best: LA > MA > EA
>>140897692
I try to forget they exist.
>>140897672
It honestly depends on what people are in the mood for, but in my experience EA>LA>MA.
>>140897715
Shit, I didn't mean to write Atlantis, I meant to write Pelagia, because EA Pelagia cannot onto land.
I disagree with EA Machaka, though they are definitely on the weak / hard to play side, but you're right that I forgot MA Machaka. That nation just flat out shouldn't exist.
As you can see, New Person, nobody has a clue what they're doing. You'll fit in fine.
>>140897672
Frequency EA > MA > LA
Best EA > LA > MA
>>140897643
Helheim is hard for the same reason Abysia is hard, they lack good recruits out of capital, and just kind of loose steam too much. Good on small maps with few (5-7) players though.
>>140897987
EA Machaka requires a good understanding of magic to survive, because your troops are barely better than monkeys.
They do have good magic though, the Bouda basically has fucking Dai Oni pathing. On that note, I'd add Yomi. Good nation, but you really need to understand how to SC well to make use of it.
>>140897351
Is Yomi a decent enough nation?
>>140897987
Yeah, I see it. It's rather funny and I like it.
Also, what is more common - blitz or PBEM?
>>140897351
If Eriu is on that list, a bunch of other MA nations deserve to be there as well
Like most of the UW ones, Xibalba, T'ien Chi, and Bandar Log.
>>140898335
The best way I can describe Yomi is like this:
They have some of the most crippling weaknesses of any nation. Order disempowered units, an effective -14% cap income from lost admin bonus on a turmoil nation making you perpetually poor early, and generally underwhelming recruit units due to cost.
On the other hand they get Shikome on a 1 to 1 death gem basis, and Shikome are fantastic. They also get Dai Oni, who are one the best recruitable battle casters and the BEST recruitable SC in the game (soul vortex+phoenix pyre is vicious, and the auto summon wolves typically eat the initial round of anti-SC spells.
>>140898226
Mhmm. They're in the "I'd urge you to maybe reconsider" category, but not in the "they're flat out bad, don't play them unless you want a challenge" category. Their troops aren't actually that atrocious; elephants make for super easy expansion, and if you're playing against someone of roughly equal skill, you can pretty easily roll over someone with flaming arrows before they get a counter (if they can get one at all), which then allows you to transition into skelespammers fucking everywhere.
Yomi's actually more of a nation to avoid than EA Machaka, I'd say. Yomi have absolutely nothing going for them aside from Dai Oni.
>>140898335
They're... on the weak side, and something of a one-trick demon overlord.
>>140898432
PBEM.
>>140898450
Yeah, alright. Maybe remove Eriu from the list. I'm just still remembering the mess that was my girlfriend's performance as Eriu in GelatinousCube, her first MP game. That said, yeah, you're right, it should be in the same category as Yomi - bit of a one trick pony, but can be leveraged for good results.
...shit. GelatinousCube. My turn. Shit!
>>140898742
>dai oni
>better SC than Grigori
you trippin
>>140898895
Can you read anon, he said recruit-able.
>>140898860
Fuck yeah, made it with like twenty seconds to spare.
