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Dominions is a fantasy turn-based strategy game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.
The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 2800 units, 800 spells and 300 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them.
It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.
Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a strategy game.
>Steamgroup
Join the steamgroup for multiplayer
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya
>Group chatroom
steam://friends/joinchat/103582791434709795
>Our work-in-progress wiki
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki
>Our pastebin
http://pastebin.com/dHdZ1cch
>Dom4 Manual
http://jaffa.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf
>Dom4 Inspector
This is a community resource that has every unit, spell, and item in the game in an accessible database.
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/
>Play by email guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551
>Debug Mod:
For testing battle formations and spells
http://dom4archive.kermodebear.org/www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/debug-mod.html
>Where do I get it?
It is available on Gamersgate and Steam. Desura may or may not be ded.
>THE BASICS
>Read the manual
>Read the wiki
>Read the pastebin
>Watch some LPs by Maerlande or NuclearMonkee
>Start playing multiplayer games
Submit completed games here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1jHX_ZoJi6zIvDq6ANdp-W1Y89W5_fmShuDyHmAj5qC4/viewform
Results Here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dlrvyEqLFYIaXRc49TheMmfdoP8jEh1m5rZJHJAzDWQ/edit?usp=sharing
I suppose the casters have gone offscript because those are some weird spells to cast as Caelum
Anon casts Raise Dead.
Still my all time favorite
Reminder to put a stop to blobbing.
Any games recruiting? Finally bored of single player. Also alternatively any fun Nation combos to try out. Bored with my W9E9 KoC gimmick MA Marignon game with 200% resources.
Reminder to remove elves
>tfw no modnation games
>>140226027
Be the change you want to see in the world.
>>140226650
I doubt that we will be able to gather enough players. VegetableWarriors4 had only 5 players, modnations games are not popular here.
>>140226862
I'd play.
>>140226965
We have two players then. Maybe I'll organize a game next week.
>>140226862
Honestly one of the biggest problems is that the national spells don't work out to well with each other.
>>140227241
That was simply because the host messed up when combining mods in VW4.
>>140227080
I'd also play.
>enemy is obviously preparing an invasion against you for multiple turns
>can't do shit against it because otherwise engaged
>they invade
Hey Chinamen. We friends, right?
Play your turns
>>140234389
Momiji does appear in the game technically, unit ID 1338
Post Memes.
How awful is N9E4 mictlan? I'll probably run it in a disciple game with a nation which needs that bless.
>>140239191
N9E4 is probably the best all round bless
It's not ideal for Mictlan which would rather have a bit of a bigger bless or B9
r8 my first attempt at making a thug
>>140239958
Why bothering with a shroud if you have astral memebless?
@140239958
its shit
>>140239958
Eh, it'll probably do fine. The lodestone amulet is probably unnecessary since that will die very quickly to actual mages, replace it with a regen ring to make it more reliable. The boots aren't really needed since it's going to be trampling most kinds of PD anyway. A lot of PD or elite troops will give it trouble but hopefully nobody is putting more than 20 PD in their provinces anyway.
>>140240086
I have 4W 4E 4S, didn't really plan on utilizing bless that much, but the shroud was like the only low encumberance armor I could make.
>>140240352
What improvements do you recommend? Using MA pangaea.
>>140240587
Pangaea is for degenerates anyway
>>140240587
I actually thought the luck buff from the helmet was twist fate from S9, so my bad.
You are pan, dont you have earth for armor of knights?
>>140239191
Really bad, precisely how awful depends on age.
Mictlan really needs an offensive bless to boost their sacreds' killing power, and you have none.
EA or LA would be alright with N9, since jaguar warriors have pretty decent HP. However, if you're MA you'd be better with almost any other bless.
>>140239958
Trample and 0 encumbrance is a terrible combination for a thug.
It's causing you to have insufficient reinvigoration because your thug will trample 3 times per turn for 9 fatigue. (quickness might make it 6 tramples per turn, which is even worse)
Trample also means your thug isn't going to actually use that sword against anything.
Protection is a bit low, but your high defense might be sufficient alone.
You have way too much gems spent on it. In total I count 40 gems. That's way too high, especially for something with a unique item. You could remove the lodestone amulet and boots with no issues. Strength does next to nothing for your thug, and he shouldn't be meeting mages. Fire Brand is also completely useless against size 2 or below (i.e. the vast majority of PD) so that could go too. Once you've removed the boots, you might want to fill that slot with shoes of the messenger, to alleviate the massive fatigue issues slightly more.
>>140240587
I'd suggest you don't thug minotaurs. They're a terrible chassis for it, and the only thing making this one somewhat viable is the really strong unqiue helmet.
>>140241046
Oops, corrections.
>Trample and 0 encumbrance
Trample and more than 0 encumbrance
>especially for something with a unique item
especially for something with a free unique item
Please someone save me. I don't want to die this early.
>>140240851
Also try W9, that bless on centaurs is really strong.
No point in casting the Hidden in Foo spells with more than the required paths, right?
>MA Xibalba
What im in for?
What should i expect from Pepe's?
>>140244014
Worse than EA and LA
The main problem being that the frog mages aside from the Bacab aren't good and their recruitable sacreds are also bad.
>>140243914
It doesn't scale. If that's what you mean.
>>140241046
Thanks. I guess I should make one of the centaurs a proper thug then, and have the minotaur just trample PD. Maybe I should just give him a 2nd shield?
The minotaur was the only one I could spare for the arena, where he got that helmet, but no one else sent anything into the arena so he won by default.
>>140244382
Does Chak poisonous skin affects other Chaks near him?
>>140242593
Which game is that?
>>140244998
An E1 Centaur Hierophant might work as a thug. I'm not too sure though, since I've seen something similar fail. A Pan would probably be a better option, but they lack native stealth.
>I guess I should make one of the centaurs a proper thug then, and have the minotaur just trample PD.
Generally the point of a thug is to take on PD. Are you trying to make a SC (take on an enemy army solo) instead?
>>140245150
Poisonous skin should only affect things which attack the unit.
>>140226027
Well, I could tide up my mod. I posted it here before, it is called Ourobouros, an EA nation with dragons.
People here went crazy about the size3 tramplers. I could do something about them, but I still don´t think they are OP.
Later today I post it again
>>140236024
>warriors in pajamas
>>140241046
>>140239951
can you guys tell me an acceptable nation in EA that can work with N9E4? Extra points if not a blood nation, it's for a newbie friend of mine.
I thought about pan, vanheim, TNN, and maybe marverni (with shrouded golems in late game and boar warriors early to mid game)
When you stop Erf Snek just right.
>>140248475
It'd be a perfect bless for Niefelheim. However, they're a blood nation and quite tricky to play.
Abysia, TNN and Fomoria would also like it.
Pan and Vanheim would also do fine with it. It's not really an ideal bless, but their sacreds are good enough that it won't matter.
Since you should have decent scales with N9E4, you could take any nation which does well with pure scales and just use the bless for SCs. Something which has good access to SC chassis would be even better.
NoBully Bogarus are you here?
>>140248475
You might shove it on Agartha though they don't really need that big bless. Or really nature bless at all.
>>140249645
What sup
>>140248308
For when you want to be extra comfy while smiting heathens.
>>140249795
Can you get in chat for a moment?
>>140249962
Way ahead of you.
>>140249542
Fomoria sounds like a great idea. Nemedian as elf raiders and storm + thunderstrikes everywhere with some skellispam, while also able to get some good SCs.
But what about sacreds? are fomorian giants and unmarkeds good enough to use?
>>140237773
>likes skullstaves
>F3A3N2H3
What am I missing?
>>140251178
You are missing the part where the image is a reference to various OC DONUT STEEL super awesome deviantart characters. They like edgy things.
Specifically it's based on a seperate meme image - coldsteel the hedgehog, but i don't have it on my pc. You could probably google it.
>>140250935
>But what about sacreds? are fomorian giants and unmarkeds good enough to use?
Definitely.
Unmarked are better in combat, but Fomorian Giants make very tough blockers with N9. They also let you expand underwater.
N9E4 is good for making their Kings into SCs and their Druids into trapezing thugs as well.
>Generated with Muuch race themes: [white, default, slaver]
MUUCH IMPERIALISM
>>140246512
Pans are stealthy.
>>140242593
Oh wow, I didn't think that would work.
>>140253212
Huh, so they are.
I remember checking it a while ago and finding them not stealthy, I guess I'm just blind.
>>140242593
C'tis I am sorry, there is nothing I can do for you.Also I find it hilarious that Patala elfed you with monkeys
Do we need a replacement for Abysia so soon? The sad part is I know who got old Abysia's start, literally the worst on the map, so this Abysia had a better start than the old one.
Will extend if he needs an extension. Will begin seeking subs if he stakes again.
Play your turns
>>140257318
No.
>>140257318
I just did, you bitch.
>>140253901
Isn't the bottom left corner the worst spot? Wastes hemmed in by special provinces.
Can I get Mictlan in chat (in like an hour or so during lunch break).
Seriously, it's turn like what, 44. We need to have an intervention, or, why are you still using jags and not ozzies.
>>140257904
Bottom left gives you plenty of room to actually expand, and the special provinces actually aren't all the special, and can be dealt with.
Upper East is like that, except you also get 2 really close neighbors that pretty much immediately cut off your expansion and you're stuck with around 10-20 shitty ass provinces.
is there some way to export to a txt file the log of a battle?
>>140261024
If you run dom4 in -ddd mode it'll dump a very verbose log of the battle to the terminal. I think it only works on linux, though.
>>140262317
>Linux does it but not windows
FUCKING ILLWINTER
>>140262456
You can try it. Honestly I've never personally tested it on windows. I've just been told that -ddd doesn't do anything on windows.
>>140262557
It's more that the infamous battle replay bug is due to llamaserver running Linux which means things like commslaves still follow casting scripts.
>>140262641
I think you know what answer is.If you want I can load up the replay and tell you what happened/make a webm, I'll be in /v/anheim for a while.
>>140262641
Commslaves only do that if they have innate caster I thought
So only really relevent for Nazca
>nobody cast any globals
What the fuck, people. Here I am wasting my gems on shit i don't want to deny slots and literally nobody casts anything.
Any dank games recruiting?
I found /domg/
>>140266180
So you won't be offended by it being dispelled then?
>>140267592
I won't give a shit, really. With info from earlier dead guy graphs and crone there was no real reason to cast eyes of god, I just hoped people would jump at the option of free global slots and i could maybe make somebody bounce it if i'm lucky.
>>140246512
Not only that, but things which attack the unit using length 0 weapons.
>>140266612
New thread title
![(G_P) Escaflowne 08(1080p 10-bit)(7D3AC3D8).mkv_snapshot_19.22_[2016.04.16_04.17.23].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/YmEtm2q.jpg "(G P) Escaflowne 08(1080p 10-bit)(7D3AC3D8).mkv snapshot 19.22 [2016.04.16 04.17.23]")
/domg/ should generate death gems.
>>140274601
>The series follows a teenage high school girl named Hitomi, who finds herself pulled from Earth to the planet Gaea when a boy named Van appears on the high school track while battling a dragon. In Gaea, she is caught in the middle of a war as the Zaibach Empire attempts to take over Gaea. Van (King of Fanelia), with aid from Allen (an Asturian Knight), commands his mystical mech Escaflowne in the struggle to stop the Zaibach Empire. Hitomi's fortune telling powers blossom in Gaea as she becomes the key to awakening Escaflowne and to stopping Zaibach's plans.
WOW
such an original story
do all of you weebs have shit taste, or is it just you?
>>140275905Cirno has shit taste, it is known.
>>140276960I don't think he has shit taste, I think he actually, honestly has no idea what "taste" is.
>>140277326
>>140276960He studies math, so he's probably just bazinga-level autistic.
>>140277503Well it's not like he doesn't openly admit being autistic.
>>140276960
>Cirno
Literally who
Stop fucking memeing yourselves and blitz.
Jesus
>>140278809
>Stop fucking memeing yourselves
Never.
I might have fucked up.
Might.
I'm just gonna turn around now, head home, and start looking for supple young virgins to console myself with for the forseeable future.
>>140252569
Kings are somewhat overrated in that there's not a lot that they'll beat that a Druid with N9 and minimal gear won't.
N9 lets a druid with just a brand mistform + bless to take on most PD. If you've scouted out high PD provinces, you can just add a shield onto that. If you've saved up enough air drems, you can make multiple, simultaneous, and devastating deep strikes.
Kings are great as durable high Air / Death casters, and with soul vortex they have an added layer of regen+reinvig, but if they go up against mage support, they'll die all the same. Given that they're much more valuable, risking them to do what a thug can do for much cheaper is rarely worthwhile.
>>140283965
What I like about Kings is that they beat many of the other standard SCs 1 on 1.
>>140283959
Is that edible gloves mictlan? Why does everyone use different names for the same game?
>>140283965
>you can make multiple, simultaneous, and devastating deep strikes.BATTEL BRUTHAS
>>140284937
It is, yes.
I assume we use different names because we want to be witty.
>>140283959
I mean I'm not saying that Ulmish army in 48 is headed your way Mictlan, but I will say there's no other conceivable place for it to wind up at in less that about a dozen turns. Ulm and I share the pain that is mm1 armies.
Also nice A6 god Ulm, not the memes I expected.
>>140278392
Everyone who is an anyone knows him, you fucking casual scumlord. Don't you have games to stale in?
>>140296243
steamshitters go away
>>140296901Is that Kill Six Billion Demons?
>>140297163
Yes.
>>140297347
>>140298216
I need to get around reading it.
>>140298796
>Bad Transformation Roll
>>140298796
Crossbreeding.jpg
I've been asking for last minute extensions in a couple games recently but work is kicking my ass. I can probably still get my turn in on time today but an hour or two would make me feel a lot more comfortable if at all possible.
>48h turns
>asking for an extension
>only one player has actually submitted yet
it's finally over. I'd like to thank MZ2's team for being absolutely useless all game because they couldn't make peace with pythium's team because vanheim was butthurt over his early thrashing. Otherwise my first pbem game ever is now my first ever completed pbem
>>140298216
If somebody shops this so that Jagganoth is forging forester bob's gear, I will be so hard.
So does some brave soul wish to take on the perils of Memegeddon Abysia?
Or shall I take on the perils of finding someone to set him AI?
>>140299806
you forgot
>last turn 2 AIs, one of those wasn't even at war
this game is doomed.
By the way, does anyone know how many victory points takes winning?
>>140301676
I would since the game has only just started, but I'm already in Memegeddon so it's not possible.
>>140298681
I tried and it is very confusing, like someone with headmates on tumblr wrote it.
>>140302523
Eh, Patala had exactly 0 avenues for expansion and Marignon was probably dead so I can't exactly blame them too much. And I dunno, we're in a weirdly peaceful, slow part of the game here but I don't think that is necessarily a bad thing. Certainly suits me just fine.
Also 5 points to win, I believe.No need to spell out the implications of that publically, I hope.
As MA Jotunheim, what would be my research goals? I'll get Construction 4 / Blood 3 for Blood eco + Frost Fiends, some Conjuration for Wolves, but after that?
I haven't played with Water much, seems like there's not too many great spells.
>>140303862
Ench 5 for skelespam.
How does order scales affect blood hunting?
The manual says
"an unrest check: % chance of failure = province unrest / 4"
Turmoil naturaly raises unrest, so it does hinder hunting. Aside that, how else does these elements interact?
I know some mechanics use unrest as base to calculate "chaos", is it the same thing?
>I´ve read the manual before and am skimming it again
>Atlantis is preparing to bully me
Quick, how do I beat him to it?
>>140306478
What. If that's you Caelum, then calm your birdtits.
>>140306478
You aren't me, so it'll be hilarious if Atlantis decides to divert his attentions like that. Send me a message in-game, or I'll be in the steam chat later on.
As far as strategies, have you tried throwing 60 mages at him? It worked well enough for me.
>>140284097
I know 'it depends' is annoying but... it depends. They lose to a W9/N9 Vanjarl with minimal equipment just due to the attack/defense difference unless they're specifically geared to beat the Vanjarl's gear. They'll beat golems in most cases, but not as reliably as two druids.
I Feel bad for pan since he was the first 2 to bullied, but he won't be the only 1 at least.
>>140307220
Atlantis pls no Bully.
I promise that things are going much better with your reptilian brethren than it seems.
>>140309479
Hi Gath. Important message coming to you next turn
>>140300234
I´d like to see your gods, please
>>140309641
Can we talks in chat, I don't want to run our armies into each other.
Would be awkward as shit.
>>140306407
>I know some mechanics use unrest as base to calculate "chaos", is it the same thing?
That's specific to chaos power. Lanka gains extra slaves from turmoil dominion but the chance to get slaves is still affected by unrest.
Anyway, while it's of course helpful, the unrest reduction from order isn't such a big deal in Dominions 4 because you tend tend to concentrate blood hunting on a relatively small number of provinces (mind you, unrest caused by each hunter makes blood hunting more difficult for each subsequent hunter during turn resolution, let's imagine the first hunter faces 0 unrest but the next 20 and next after that 40 and so forth, blood hunting beyond 20 blood levels worth yields pretty much zero slave income so most typically you have around 10 blood levels worth of hunters, like 5 B1s with Rod) and patrol away the unrest. This is more costly in the long-term due to killed population (-> taxes) but is most often preferable to the sustainable hunting method where you have one or two hunters per province and let unrest reduction from order, dominion and PD do the work, since taxes are paid before unrest reduction and as such far more of your provinces receive reduced income.
The primary concern tends to be the fact that blood hunting reduces income so, without order scales, your upkeep will catch up to your income much earlier. The other way to look at it is the fact that with extensive blood hunting across most of your provinces, there is far less income for order to affect, which makes turmoil cheap design points. However, realistically you're unlikely to completely transition to blood economy so the first concern tends to outweigh the latter by a long shot.
So remember when I said you should post your fuck-ups to the thread? Here's mine for the turn.
>>140312371
What fuck-up, it says you won right there in the report ;).
Also, in case any of you were wondering what a typical Crueno province looks like, here's what Xibalba is working with.
But noooo, apparently I'm the bigger threat because I can make half a Tartarian per turn :|
>>140310405
here you go, nothing too crazy, Nazca's was supposed to bully and forge blood stones, MIctlan was supposed to breka him into blood and vampires, and my guy was there for the bless, earth, and semi-decent scales. In retrospect we just had a really bad nation fit of eiru/nazca/mictlan. I regret not choosing bandor log over Eiru
>>140312840
I thought you were the winning team
eagles and elves = caelum and vanarus, roughly
>>140313773
>vanarus
>elves
come on son
Vanerus had a N9 Scales tree
Caelum had a great enchantress built to summon yazads and daevas
Bandorlog had a crone built to summon evil monkies
>>140311379
So, aside my income, taking turmoil has nothing to do with how much slaves I get?
>Get a turn just before I'm about to go to sleep
>have to do it immediately otherwise I'm going to stay up thinking about it
>>140315279
>Get turn just before you leave for school/work
>unproductive all day
>>140314079
Bandarlog would have been better served with a maneater built to summon evil monkeys, imo.
Play your turns
Do Rune Smashers make the decay from Banefire harder to resist?
Can somebody who currently plays with goons tell me what mods they use over there?
>>140320714
Do not play your turns
To make the content of this general more consistent with other generals I must ask: who is your dominions waifu.
>>140324821
Gotta go with the Nagini.
>>140283965
If you're just using them to take down PD, then druids are good enough. I'm saying you should use Kings to beat up enemy armies.
Kings can cut their way through a nearly-unlimited number of standard troops with minimal gear. Even against elite troops they're hard to kill due to their high HP and regen.
That means you absolutely need mage support to take one of them down. If you can gear a King with resistances to the magic your enemy is deploying (which you have lots of slots for) they can kill a very large number of units for you.
>>140312683
C'tis, please explain how in the actual fuck I could attack bats.
If I had the gatestone it would take 3 turns to move an army there.
And income at this point is pretty whatever. I can break that like Bane broke the Batman whenever I please. I can't break gem summons any more than they're already broken.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15URTmf4GgaqYBSBlCZ8Agdft2QeiJHuV68vwRpt5x98/edit?usp=sharing
On disease and death scales.
>>140327956
I thought death scales were way worse for old mages.
>>140315274
If you patrol to 0 unrest then it has none (unless you're Lanka, in which case you get extra slaves in turmoil), if you don't use patrolling method then it does
>>140332664
WELL GUESS AGAIN BAKA
>>140324821
My waifu is the Annunaki of the Morning Star. She's is a pure maiden, unlike that slut, Annunaki of Love and War.
>>140324821
My waifu is the Once and Future Queen, she's a strong, beautiful woman who don't need no man.
>meme game and in strong position
>relatively strong military
>giant world war I'm not involved in
>tfw I'm not sure who to trust
Take your damn turns bullies!
>>140338570
Quick question, can Blood Vengeance proc Blood Vengeance?
>>140342694
yes
>>140342694
It depends.
>>140342694
I don't know. Maybe test it?
>>140343226
I can tell you that "it depends" is definitely wrong here, there's nothing for it to depend on.
>>140343226
Probably you need to test it, and then put the results on the wiki so nobody else has to.
I suspect the answer is "yes" though.
Final graphs and such, starting with map.
Other than Mictlan dying and Caelum gaining ground in Rlyeh controlled land it hasn't really changed that much in 20 or so turns.
Marignon is still alive even though his team died a long time ago simply because nobody wanted to fight his stack of 30 mages.
Van vs Pythium was eternal ongoing slugfest that created two really weak teams that wouldn't really matter if they ever attacked us.
We've had a really good start - fish on the other side of the map, really clustered, caelum being protected from early invasions by level 3 throne on a port.
Caelum got steel ovens right next to his capital and i've found enchatnment: 30 site year one.
A lot of things went really well for us the moment game begun.
>>140346358
That's some pretty competent spriting, but it doesn't really fit the dominions aesthetic. Post a link to the mod anyway.
>>140346617
>>140346358
>weapons just kind of float in front of them
Lazy.
>>140346691
It's what happens in the show, for unicorns at least.
Everyone had a pretty good expansion. Me and Van were mildly limited by MM1 because of mountains and forests, but it's not like blessed tigers and chuds can really be stoped.
I've killed Virtue during expansion and C'tis mildly failed it so our early game war targets were obvious.
Pelagia's number of forts comes as a surprise, we thought caelum had the most since early game.
Rlyeh was hella rich, this map seem to have good water provinces in general. It's a shame he's wasted all the gold in the least efficient way possible.
Mictlan has a very nice income considering bad scales - cold 3/sloth1 mictlan.
Caelum got well sitesearched C'tisian land, my best gem provinces and had a rainbow covering thrones. Plus EBDW closer to the end.
He ended up burning 160+ gems each turn.
I've been playing with 5s4N income for most of the game.
Mictlan had sages fueling his research pretty hard but that didn't amount to much.
Atlantis and Pelagia were sitting in a backrow doing nothing but researching most of the game. Didn't amount to much either.
No money for temples on our side most of the game.
>>140346293
>Caelum got the steel ovens right next to his capital
I'd complain, but given how many games I've had the steel ovens right next to my capital I don't think I have the right to.
Was the enchantment 30 site on a waste, mountain, or cave for hidden in foo, or on some other terrain only truly good for liches and shit?
But yeah, of all the teams to have the southernmost spawn, yours was the one I wanted there least. Should have pushed harder for the 3v1 initial gangbang option.
MVP for our victory is probably nazca. All those troops that never got used. I always planned around him and possibility of sneaky attack but we've barely seen anything through whole game. Supayas only came two turns before the end of the game.
Rlyeh spent 20+ thousands of gold on mindblasters. They got slaughtered especially after golems came online. We haven't seen his assassins until 5 turns before the end.
Mictlan got bullied pretty hard with turn one earthquakes and later turn one RoS.
Elven army got eliminated by me twice (thrice counting last turn).
Vanarus lost his armies once to two SC disciples but killed elven mages before that. His troops also hard countered mictlan pretty well.
Atlantis lost one stack and done nothing but summoning troops the rest of the game. When he moved his super stack of summons it game was over.
>>140346293
>Marignon is still alive even though his team died a long time ago simply because nobody wanted to fight his stack of 30 mages.
That was really infuriating for me.
I subbed in for a glorious last stand after the original player gave up and I only got one small fight out of it.
R'lyeh took my capital before I could get there to defend then just kept hiding in forts which I couldn't break, assassinating my commanders, and taking my 0 PD provinces.
>>140348819
Annoying game until the end.
I would go for one more disciple3 game, if possible this time without veteran players.
Disc3 are fun.
Team composition:
Caelum was out first pick and i'm sort of surprised it wasn't banned over Ermor (and neither was nazca). I might be biased but flying nations are stupidly efficient and the level of support they can provide around the map is insane.
Vanarus was our second pick. Great troops, great research, more Air for stronger air based game, elven thugs, blood which is always great.
First two picks for us were fantastic, we were clearly set as a strong team Cold.
Last pick, i fully expected to end up with Eiru or Arco because Bandar was perfect for team Nazca.
They chose Eiru and that left me with Arco or Bandar.
Bandar was clearly better a better option - i still get mindhunting, but better troops and expansion that works with universal bless, deep earth, deep water from summons, blood summons. I think slightly bigger income hit was worth it overal, I simply had more toys to play with although i barely got into dakini summoning before the game was over (i've had 4 with slaves from rus for 3 more).
>>140348187
It was a mountain but we ended up not really using it all that nych. A few liches got summoned but that's it. If the game draged out it would be relevant since we had EBDW and caelum could afford hidden cast every turn.
I don't know how 3 way gangbang would have worked out unless you could get team vanheim on your side somehow.
Raven feast should be made a nature death crosspath (A4 is few and far between, air and death already have insanely good synergy with winds of death) and buffed a bit. I cast black death (15 gems) on a province with 10k pop (5k corpses) and raven feast (4 gems) and I got a whole nine death gems back.
It sounds like it could somewhat compete with late game blood and a step towards dethroning blood as stupidly powerful and constant winner by default lategame.
>>140349656
>that left me with Arco or Bandar.
>Bandar was clearly better a better option
I remember that discussion. I still think you're underestimating Arco, but Bandar seemed to work out for you.
I'm surprised you took a bless with those nations. What bless did you take, and what did Caelum and Vanarus use it for?
>>140326927
Who the fuck deploys a high number of troops without mage support, though?
But yeah, I see your point that with the right gear you can could trapeze one of them on an unprepared army.
>>140350563
>I still think you're underestimating Arco
Arco has better mages and better research but within context of
>what can a nation bring to the team
Bandar was better.
If we didn't have vanarus with his billion crosspaths arco would be a lot more appealing. But in that nation setup deeper nature, earth and possibility of late game blood was more important.
>I'm surprised you took a bless with those nations. What bless did you take, and what did Caelum and Vanarus use it for?
We went with generic N9.
N9 vanarus gets alright elven thugs. Vanarus sacreds are also fantastic for expansion with N9 (better than chuds in my experience as you can make expansion parties faster) but he chose not to use it.
N9 caelum gets very good blocking infantry, but because Caelum was in our backrow he never needed those for anything. He used quite a lot of shrouded golems though, and those were perfect for our situation. Near the end he got into favarishi production
I think a bless was a bit wasted but it worked well enough, we've had near perfect scales for Caelum and Vanarus. It's hard to improve those.
>>140350902
What I mean is that with the right gear you can effectively negate their mage support's ability to kill it, leaving it practically invulnerable.
Against one of the typical armies EA Caelum fields, if you stack up on lightning resistance for thunderstrikes (25 should be sufficient, and that's one chest item) and maybe a bit of cold resistance for frozen heart (one misc slot), they have effectively 0 mage support because none of their mages can hurt you.
>>140351476
Yes, I said I see your point in the second part of my post.
>>140351615
Right, your first line made me think you were talking about dropping them onto enemy reinforcements which don't have mages with them (which is also great to do, but not what I was talking about)
>>140350461
>It sounds like it could somewhat compete with late game blood
It actually doesn't compete with late game blood but works well with it.
I use raven's feast heavily while bloodhunting as it allows to convert natural corpse generation into death gems, often with a profit. (you only need a 100 corpses to make more death gems than you are using air while casting)
>I cast black death (15 gems) on a province with 10k pop (5k corpses) and raven feast (4 gems) and I got a whole nine death gems back.
Well, you really shouldn't be using black death on your own 10k pop provinces. Consider for a second that you can drop it on enemy capital and then cast raven's feast and your D gems back while crippling enemy's income.
I noticed Ohlmann has released a new version of UWEx.
The changes to EA Oceania seem interesting.
>>140349656
I first picked Vanarus then Caelum not the other way, I consider Vanarus to be way stronger due to great troops, diversity and blood access. It also has great pretenders to pick from.
We didn't use cedar pillars for anything other than globals and one skeleton horsemen cast, I had to move away my disciple so couldnt get any liches. I would if the game went on tho.
>>140350563
Arco has no summons, has plain shit troops and nearly no late game potential. Blog has lankan blood summons, better troops, kailasan summons that are decent and cheaper S1 sacred mage to do what it does best.
>>140349049
Yes, that was sad.
Anyway my short summary of the game incoming:
Teams:
1. team uw - rlyeh, atlantis, pelagia., S9 bless from void lurker.
Did fuckall the whole game but be annoying, Rlyeh wasted untold thousands of gold using 1-1.5k gold raid parties of illithids and lobos that got obliterated every time they met some resistance - I seriously doubt he made any gold gain from that even including gems secured. Never fielded a competent army relying on cascade spam, Pelagia could as well not be in the game (couldnt even secure the uw), Atlantis fielded two armies that got destroyed and then one summon army way to late. For all their resources they didnt amount to anything despite having a solid foothold on land for some time.
S9 bless was a joke and not even sure if void lurker cast anything at all.
2. team elf - nazca, eriu, mictlan, F9 bless.
Bless was too weak for mictlan, didnt really work for eriu and made supayas easily countered with fire resistance. Eriu put up a fight, Mictlan only gave ground whole game, Nazca ate TC then sat on its ass doing nothing. Their combat disciples did most of the real fighting beating Vanarus stacks of chuds.
3. team ded - Marignon, TC, C'tis, W9 bless.
Despite having solid cavalry bless got beaten by a rush of elven and fish, granted they started staling instantly once attacked. I ate C'tis and he didnt put up any fight at all. Typical Cirno team.
4. team dead plants - Asphodel, Vanheim, Shinuyama, W9 bless.
Really liked this team composition and thought they could really put their mark on the game but they got into an early war with team Pythium and never did anything.
5. team jewish angels - Pythium, Ashdod, Abysia, N9E4 bless.
Decent picks, scales team, got rushed by Van and somehow Pythium miraculously survived to the end. Abysia and Ashdod coudlnt handle Asphodel gorgon but would ultimately beat team dead plants I think.
>>140354204
N-not miraculous oniichan, i'm good ;_;
6. Team bird-monkey-russian - Vanarus, Caelum, Bandar Log, N9 bless.
I drafted a solid cold start and finished with subpar blog pick, that didnt really fit the heat scales. But blog has good expansion and good summons so it was worth the risk and frankly after so many picks nothing good was left.
N9 bless worked very well for monkeys and all of our thugs. It was also very cheap on a tree plus opened us interesting globals.
Caelum had excellent expansion, Vanarus failed a bit due to terrain and slow movement, blog did fine.
We found steel ovens in Caelum cap ring which opened 1 gem water bracelets, shambler skins, frost brands, 5 gem water bottles, 2 gem quills and lanterns. Also 24S golems but I needed fravashi to claim thrones anyway.
After expansion phase team fish and elves ganked on Mari/TC. I offered Mari/TC a long term NAP but they only accepted a 3 turn one - if they accepted a long term one we would have attacked Mictlan and Eriu. But since Eriu accepted 1 year nap and TC didnt want more than 3 turns our prey was set. We swooped i and grabbed some Mari land, I ate whole of C'tis myself. TC and Mari started staling, we subbed out Mari player and Mari somehow made it until the end with one non cap fort.
Once team ded was dead came the gang on us by fish and elves. It wasn't surprising but they definitely weren't prepared with their magic. Birds and Vanarus have a really solid t strike timing, blog has a really solid cascade timing and they had nothing so the attack wasnt very successful. Mictlan started losing ground and forts right away, so did Eriu.
It was, however, extremely hard to raid uw. My ice crafters with bottles oftten got beaten by pd alone, which prompted me to get cons7 after evo7 alt 7 for the golems. Golems ravaged squids who, until the end of the game, were helpess against lifeless-mindless golem combo. Squids lost thousands and thousands of gold in armies to golem thugs not even killing one.
>>140355212
I only suffered a minor setback fighting Atlantis, where I underestimated their troops, but in the end only lost one fort and beat that army later on regaining everything. We were thus making gains on all fronts.
At this point I decided to have a look at the throne situation. I focused my resources on securing the thrones with armies and thugs, losing three golems and a fravashi on the way there. I had to get alt8 and cast wizard towers because most of them werent fortified, until the end I spent 200E on forts but it was well worth it. I hated how diverting resources to thrones meant that I started giving up ground but that was a necessary sacrifice in order to wrap the game up without needless delays.
For some reason Pelagia didnt fortify his 3 point UW throne so it made it easy to win this way. I am baffled why he didnt fortify it as he had a lot of forts everywhere just not on the most vital province.
And thats mostly it, didnt get to fight Nazcan armies or Atlantean superstack because they came to fight way too late. We had three ench bonus sites - 20 20 and 30% - but didnt get much use of them at all.
We had Mother Oak, Earth Blood Deep Well, Gift of Health and Stellar Focus, All but Oak were cast with minimal overcast yet team uw, despite having a S9 pretender, didn't even bother dispelling them.
>>140355535
Typical Malakal player bullying newbie players
>>140353586
As bad as Arco's troops may be, Bandar Log's are worse. I just ran equal goldcost of Hoplites against Royal Swordsmen and N9 White ones. In both cases, monkey troops lose.
Mage support is arguable either way. Arco doesn't get mage summons and doesn't have cheap S1, but on the other hand their massable mages can use four different paths in battle compared to monkeys' astral only.
I'd agree Bandar Log is the better lategame pick, but they can struggle early and your team was hardly lacking in lategame with birds and chuds.
>>140357779
Royal swordsmen? Try tiger riders and white ones. Blog only fielded sacreds and markata. Try markata too, theyre great chaff.
>>140358971
Tiger Riders are not a particularly fair comparison, since they serve a widely different role to hoplites and are cap-only, but alright. All tests with N9.
Tiger riders win against hoplites on their own, no need for makarta.
I tried white ones against hoplites, they lost. I didn't use a markata screen, though.
So far the only thing which seems to consistently beat Arco's troops in melee is the Tiger Riders.
>>140361664
Tiger riders are blog sacreds, you can use them against Arco sacreds if you want... oh wait right.
>>140356121
That southern start helped you more than anything. Took literally around 5 to 7 turns depending just to send an army down to you.
So I've wanted to get into this for awhile but the learning curve has put me off.
How long approximately would it take for me to be able to play the game casually?
>I play Vanheim
>>140365602
As always a lot depends on the neighbors you get, how they expand and how they treat you.
I had a tier 3 throne on the border port but there was a direct access via caves for both Shinuyama and C'tis so I can't say I was cut off.
>>140365758
Not that long. If it's just the AI, you just have to find a good spell combo that works and then you can steamroll them.
>>140365758
I'm not sure what you mean exactly by "casually", but shouldn't take you more than several months. Note that Steam usually has lower skill across the board.
If you mean in SP, then it doesn't matter, the AI is braindead, and unless you are too you'll be fine.
>>140365934
>he lost to Vanheim
>>140364748
Tiger Riders are expensive and squishy, but have really good stats for melee combat.
That makes them vulnerable to things like archers and mages, which weren't in this test. I did another test with half Arco's gold in (indie) archers (without flaming arrows, which Arco will almost certainly be deploying) and they lost.
In an actual game it isn't practical to make your entire army out of cap-only sacreds either.
>>140366409
Tiger riders mixed with white ones with N9 bless wont be the primary target of evos or archers as they have way less hp density per square.
>>140327719
I was mostly referring to Mictlan, not you. Though if not for you Xibalba would be knee deep in lizards by now.
>>140371054
Ah, Mictlan attacked you too then?
Also turns out empowering an immortal to e2a1 is only 130 gems. Should be doing more of that.
>>140368915
>won't be the primary target of archers
Fire Cavalry says otherwise.
Archers don't fire by HP density anyway.
>won't be the primary target of evos
Lower hp density helps, but its not a guarantee. Mages seem to consider distance important too, and formations with holes in them (e.g. from being blasted with evocations) are targeted less.
>>140371564
Yeah that's what Xibalba nailed me with. Unfortunately for you I won't be making that mistake again.
>>140376407
Really? But what do you expect is inside all those forts?
I mean other than the 2000 ghosts.
Due to how cheap yogi are my troops have been largely ethreal. Buffed for protection as well (early on - legions of steel, later on marble warriors/massprotection depending on what i've been fighting).
So it wouldn't really matter to me if archers suddenly materialized.
Marakata also worked out quite well for soaking up evos. They die in massive numbers but they are reasonably cheap, rescost 1-3 and can be recruited in every single forest so I had no issue supplying my frontline with something that would soak up a few rounds of thunderstrikes.
>>140376549
I dunno, could be anything. I'm not sure I understand how Flames from the Sky works, though. You'd think with 2000 ghosts in a fort and the description saying that it hits "half the army," and Ignores Shields, that there'd be more than 100 casualties, considering the ghosts are Protection 0.
I'm starting to think that the targets either get a defense save or, for some insane reason, Flames From the Sky isn't magical and Ethereal is saving them.
God damnit. Now that I think about it the math is really close to 75% of them living through it. Fuck shillwinter, and fuck Atlantis for pussying out.
>>140371638
Fire cavalry? This is where troop positioning comes in handy. Imagine cav all the way back and your archers closing in to fire on them hehe...
>>140378910
So have a line of non-archers set to hold+attack, the archers walk into them and stop there, then when the cav charge forward they shoot 'em.
>>140378778
The DRN must be fucking with you.
It's okay though, the arcane shields are coming up soon (and the Vafur Flames).
TURNS
>>140384929
Even AI knows tiddies are good, but I'm a bit disappointed it didn't say Godlike.
>>140383574
I guess? I did some quick tests and the flames only seem to kill about half the spectral soldiers they hit. Which is very unexpected from damage 15 hitting dudes with 0 protection.
>>140386805
Are you counting that they have shields, and as it's missiles shields can parry.
How do I use/install NationGen?
Can't find any .dm file like in rest of mods
>>140390973
You don't use it with Dominions like a normal mod, you launch it from the file itself and use it to generate a .dm
Which race is the best to be?
>>140391753
Human.
>>140390973
Okay, when you download it you get a zipped folder, I'll refer to this as the primary folder.
Unzip the primary folder to somewhere, like mydocuments or so such.
Inside the primary folder there are tow main things of note, Nationgen.exe and a folder labeled Mods, which shall be called the secondary folder.
To generate nations, open up the exe. It will have a small window with three tabs.
First tab: The Nation amount box and generate nations are all that really matters here, the mod seed and name are not really that usefull.
Second tab: The only thing here of note is the 'use predefined NATION seeds' checkbox and entry area, note this overrides the Nation Amount box in tab 1.
Third Tab: Has the integer, all seeds generate the same nation in the same integer, so nations from /domg/natgen (which I think is integer 9, playing with the sliders helps) can't be used with nations from any other integer easily, you'd have to do some actual modding.
Now, when you generate a batch of nations, two things are created in the Secondary Folder, a mod file and a sprite folder, these can be directly copy+pasted into the dominions mod folder. Also, you can go into the sprite folder in gimp to look at the sprites beforehand (they're sorted into nation subfolders) or you can load the mod file in dominspector (note it sometimes misses things like death power and some sacred troops).
>>140391753
White.
>>140391753
It depends. In Natgen Hoburgs get disproportionately large amounts of cool stuff (whether it be mounts, weapons, anything really) for instance.
>>140390119
Unless the mod inspector is lying, shields don't help.
>>140391393
>>140391994
Thanks Anons
>>140393219
But the spell description says it is.
>>140391753
Frogs.
>>140393626
It's sort of like bacteria, you've killed all the ones not resistant to fire, so that when they breed they all got fire resistant from their mommy and daddy ghost.
>>140393882
"When mommy ghost and daddy ghost love each other very much, they do a special hug which due to them both being ethereal and having Mr Negateable touches is a lots less erotic and more an exercise in futility."
>>140393626
I'm seriously baffled by this.By all accounts Flames should kill 82% of the spectral hastatus hit (or about 425 per cast), as they're taking a hit at their HP +5. But instead it's consistently killing closer to 55%.
I have to assume a defense roll is involved somehow, but I honestly can't think of anything that would yield those numbers.
>>140395426
I guess you could say something 'unexpected' happened.
>>140395426
Missile dodge chance? As the damage isn't AoE.
>>140396217
Yup, you are most likely right.
"Attacker:DRN+(Sizepointsinthesquare)+2ifmagicweapon
Defender:2+DRN+(shieldparryvaluex2)–(Fatigue/20)"
I guess Flames from the Sky is not nearly as good as I thought. At least I'm casting it at a discount.
If any of you have any other bright ideas on how to dislodge 2000+ ghosts from forts, I'm all ears.
>>140395426
Maybe it hits their limbs?
>>140395426
You could test it by modding a 99 def unit and seeing if you can kill them with flames from the sky.
>>140397094
Send in one mage to cast Solar Brilliance and then run away.
>>140397337
Ghosts have high MR and repair forts too fast.
>>140398317
Craft Gate Cleavers and cast Crumble, then send in five mages to cast Solar Brilliance and run away.
>>140398609
You can only cast Solar Brilliance once, you tard.
>>140398768
I don't care, do it anyway.
This is why popkill nations should be banned from memegames
>>140399021
I want to see a memegame where one player is Ermor and starts with a bunch of free provinces in an area away from everyone else, and the other players all need to cooperate and try to stop him before he ruins the whole game.
>>140398609
Crumble does nothing if you can't already damage the walls.
Solar Brilliance is meh, doesn't hurt ghosts too much.
Gatecleavers I imagine are a pita to forge during AC. And he has to keep them alive vs whatever crap I have break seige every turn (gem spending shitter, ME, RoS, Grinding, WoD, who knows. Gonna make a random encounter table for this).
>>140399297
No, because Ermor has something retarded known as 120 free design points and free units.
>>140397094I'll message you on steam.
>>140399021
Hey now, I have not shit up the game whatsoever.
No BoT. No Foul Vapors. No Genocide. I am a kind and friendly ghost who has simply been blue balled from the death plane. All I wish to do is hide in my forts, and build more forts to hide in.
>>140397094
Oh, I might also take a page from Waen's playbook and stuff some forts with black hawks (and some guys there with supply items to feed them)
Seemed to work pretty well when he did it, and it allows me to remote beef up a fort.
>>140400019
See, black hawks have a hidden malus to siege strength, but that's just the strength for breaking down walls, they don't have a malus to siege defense. Therefore the flying bonus rocks.
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So, C'tis lost their Erf snake against AI Sceleria (why they did go AI is beyond me, though) in EdgyRolePlay game. 14 encumbrance due to severe cold and then it just got critted down.
>>140406995
best pretender
Is that Natgen game that Lukas and some other anon were starting still being planned?
>>140412840
Yesssssssssssssssssssssssss
>>140412840
>>140413212
I'm also planning another DWD type game
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/0/364040166673851815/
I'd play a natgen game. Is there a Steam thread?
Do you mind if I set the turns to 48 now?
They are getting more complex and I can't take my current one if I don't extend.
>>140420725
I'm more then fine with that
>>140420725
I don't need it yet myself but it'd be nice since I have less and less time for dominions in general. That was sort of the original theme for this game anyways, if I'm not mistaken.
>>140420725
Please do.
Also, I'd like to request the same thing in wittymemename. It's turn 46 and we're still on 24h timer.
>>140422246
I'd prefer we kept it to 24h for a while longer, but I want to hear what the other players have to say.
>>140420725
Tell us who you are and I'll gladly reduce your turn burden by confining you into a one-province hugbox. :3
>>140420725
Sure, sounds fine to me.
>>140399309
>Gonna make a random encounter table for this
nice
>>140420725
That's fine
Am i the only eurofag in this thread? All of the people i know are from murrica
>>140431320
There's some but it's 1:30 am here in the uk so most the continent should be sleeping.
>>140431320
If you consider eastern europe europe...
>>140431320
I'm Dutch, but I'm not often online at this hour.
>>140431320
I'm from Italy.Fucked up sleep schedule, I know.
>>140432663
You're not alone in sleeping at weird hours.
>>140422934
I'm in favor of extending the turns soon. Things are starting to get complicated.
>>140434264
Just send fewer flying thugs at me, please.
Any games using summod recruiting?
>>140435184
You might have to make one, there hasn't been much in the way of new games recruiting for a while.
>>140435943
I'm already adminning a game though.
>>140438749
Can't you admin two games?
Just put up a disciple game, 10 teams of 3 sought for. We'll be revisiting Archaea, this time with a team of 3 (hopefully poor Mictlan will finally find the help he needed).
Era will obviously be EA, given the map and 30 nation requirement. For those too lazy to use the link, nations will be snake drafted, but capitals will remain in their usual location for the map.
Try not to be too far away from your friends.
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/0/364040166674562077/
>Illwinter hasn't updated in a month
JUST
>When the sauromancer carrying your mindless undead sacreds casts bolt of unlife on itself.
Mage AI annually kills more people than car crashes, terrorists, lightning strikes, and plane crashes combined.
>>140439987
I'd be willing to join a pick up team. I'll pop over there and see if anyone else wants to team up.
>>140442460
How was your sauromancer far enough forward to target something that close to itself when leading troops against a small enough force from freaking Patala that you didn't need additional mages and commanders?
>>140440454
Probably busy with their day jobs. They'll have more time to spend on Dominions once exam season is over.
>>140439516
Yes, but I'm not really interested in adminning half the games I'm playing.
>>140444042
He wasn't. He was right at the back of the square. There was nothing nearby. And the only unit on the field was a couple atavi archers routing.
He was carrying my undead serpents.
>>140444138
Fine I'll do it then.
What kinda game you want senpai
>>140444307
...I got nothing, then.
>>140444647
Just a regular, non meme game with worthy heroes and summod.
>>140445357
Ok, how's this then?
I'm quite happy to change any settings if need be, and the map is a placeholder.
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=SansMemes
>>140446310
>http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=SansMemes
You're a peach.
>>140439987
Oooh, neat.
I'd definitely be up for a pick up team, but I'd prefer that it be with people who'd be willing to commit to actually thinking about the game.
>>140442460
>To his horror, Kishar found that he was actually holding his staff upsidedown seconds after finishing his incantation
>>140446724
>not, no Kishar, you are the longdead, and then Kishar was undead
>>140446917
Bolt of Unlife has a weird thing where it targets friendlies if nothing better is in range. And it'll get cast offscript.
Enjoy your 0 enc, 0 upkeep mage.
>>140446310
Joined as birds
>>140447407
Really? Is that so?
Can this be exploited for Free Lesser Twiceborn?
>>140447542
hmmmm
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
To the testing chamber!
>>140446310
I'll be taking Amazons
>>140446310
Joined as Lanka.
>>140447407
I didn't get to keep the mage.
Battle report says -1 soulless warrior killed but he's no where to be found.
>>140442460
Oh lawd. C'tis, I just wanted to play around and annoy you with those monkey raiders. I NEVER expected that to happen.
>>140449075
Bastard I wanted Lanka
>>140449075
kicked you and joined as Lanka. Make a new pretender and deal with it.
>>140453339
What a bully. I like it.
>>140453339
Stop memeing, this is a no-memes game.
>>140450995
I think what happens is that you get it as a unit and then the unit dies without undead leadership?
Play your turns
>>140459481
but I already like it
SEND ME DEATH GEMS
>>140460030
me too thanks
>>140446310
Mind if I join?
>>140462676
Pssh, no way fag.
Of course you can join, anon, you needn't ask.
>>140462676
yes.
>>140462982
>>140463010
This will be my first multiplayer game actually, got to /domg/ yesterday. Wanted to see what multiplayer servers were like before I asked my roommate to buy it.
>>140463243
Well then, let's hope this doesn't turn into one of those games that gets ruined by stalers and AI. Thankfully those are not common and tend to be the result of absent admins.
>>140290359
Me and Micky T. Lan are friends! FRIENDS! Do not make such lewd implications of armies thrusting into Lan-chan's nation!Also thanks, high precision memes are the best.That doesn't mean I don't have any vamperinos though.
>>140460030
What for? What would I be getting in return?
>>140463708
While you're here, care to explain the presence of the Ulmish army right on my borders
>>140460030
No can do with Ulm right there.
>>140464104
Keeping a STRONG PRESENCE on the borders removes any threats of invasion, and allows for rapid response should anyone be foolish enough to try and attacking Ulmerican soil. Think of it as both a security measure and a constant reminder that YOU SHALL NOT PASS.
I have armies on all my borders, although I will admit the one near your nation of holocaust survivors is the strongest, partly because it's the border closest to the Ulmish heartland.
>>140463614
I'm excited either way, played an ungoldy amount of single player the past few months.
Snagged Fomoria because it's hard to fuck them up. Are there any unspoken nations that it's a dick move to grab? Like MA Ermor etc.
>>140464657
Couldn't you keep those armies a turn away from the border?
It hardly hurts your ability to respond to invasions and enemy scouts will see it so it remains a deterrent, but the enemy doesn't need to worry about being suddenly invaded.
>>140464806
It's all fine really, you just don't expect your neighbours to play nice if you pick something troublesome.
>>140465101
I worry about teleporting jerks. I'm not keeping my armies outside of forts, and my forts just happen to be directly at the border.
>when you're slowly but surely dying to coalition forces that you could beat individually and your allies are floundering around not providing vital help
just one of you fuckers bringing half of one nation's forces off me could win this war, but nooo, gotta go fucking suck cock on the other side of the map for no real reason
>>140466823
If one of the players attacking you is at risk of running away with the game, you could try negotiating a separate peace with the other coalition members and attacking the big guy.
>>140465704
Like, you know I'm LA Pythium right? Have you met my mages? The only S access I have is a cap only S1?1(A/W/S). The most "teleporting" I can do is with a 1 in 3 capital recruit and a 10-pearl item, and I'm not really sure what you expect me to do with that except "lose to PD".
>>140406995
I am ashamed of my self. Fuck Cold 2 holy shit.
>>140465704
You don't have any forts further away? I understand not wanting your army out in the open, but putting troops (especially large numbers of them) on your borders causes unnecessary tension between you and your neighbors.
>>140467469
Depending how late it is you could have some summon which can do it.
Also, if another player decided to attack Ulm it wouldn't be surprising for them to drop a teleporting unit onto every army of his they think it's possible to kill. Teleportation usually has plenty of range to hit things on the other side of an enemy empire.
>>140467469
LA Pythium or not, the troops stay. I've been far too nice to you already considering the myriad of schemery happening behind my back. Deal with it.
I have no intentions of attacking you lest Agartha calls for aid, yet if you think my troops are such a threat then why don't you come and try to remove them?
>>140468684
Two turns away is too far. By the time MM1 troops arrive in that scenario, the first fort might have been lost. Just like in WW2, the goal is to keep them off the beach.
I'm about to go to bed right now but I figured that by posting now I might reach posters in different time zones.
I'm still looking for roster suggestions for /domg/'s VGL team. There's lots of great memes on the team already, but I want to do this properly, so please feel free to suggest new ones(or returning ex-players). You can see the current roster, and a list of ex-players, at http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//domg/
And with that, I'm off to bed. G'night.
>>140446310
Set events to common?
>>140446310
>>140472695
Yes, that definitely needs to be changed.
>>140472695
>>140472827
Ok, done.
>>140446310
Didn't Realize that I couldn't switch nations when I updated my pretender (my bad). I'm down as Formoria and Helhiem right now, I can play as either but would prefer Helheim for the Pretender name pun. Sorry about that.
>>140473041
Got that mixed up, you want me to delete Fomoria and keep Helheim?
>>140473247
Yup. I would like to be Helheim, (named my Ormr "OrmrGhrd") appreciate it.
i have not played this game for months. has patch/some big events/some popular mods happened in the meantime?
is there any small game to join? last time i got a bit overhelmed by the lategame micromenagement( even to the point my toaster would overheat due to freespawn) so i took some months off.
>>140473335
Enjoyee
>>140473394
Join gaem
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=SansMemes
>>140473394
Summod has become more popular
>>140442460
Bolts of unlife are bugged and target friendliess. In his battle mound fiend cast it not once but thrice targeting the same yogi.
I have a suspicion that ai either treats it as a positive effect or thinks that replacing low hp mage with soulless is profitable.
>>140473791
what does it do aside for having a long changelog? is it som1won's mod?
>>140474416
It's strategical/tactical diversity mod that seeks to make more things usable/good/unique.
>>140474223
Assuming the soulless persist post-battle (which I don't know if you do), and if you GoR a soulless ex-mage, will they have their magic paths? (Would test, but it's an extended and complex set of circumstances, so asking was easier for now)
![7da820ec49eb4453ab3bb7023d57e853[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/SH5FJHY.png "7da820ec49eb4453ab3bb7023d57e853[1]")
RoS a shit. Only scrubs thinking that it will won them games.
>>140476082
No, turning something into a unit resets its magic to its base value. This is because the unit's ID is different between a commander and a regular unit, and magic paths are tied to that ID. Since a Soulless doesn't have magic by default, it won't have magic when GoR'd either.
If the mage was turned into a different (undead or not) commander instead of being reduced to a regular unit, it would keep its magic paths, since that won't create a new unit ID. That's not always a positive thing though; it's the reason Prophetshape doesn't quite work how you'd expect it to.
What do I am for late game as machaka?
Not a blood nation and no national summons.
>>140452590
I've been cursed this game. I only hope that after I fall my bad vibes pass on to you.
>>140478173
easy, you don't get to late game as machaka.
>>140478538
You just suck at machaka, kid.
>>140478173
>nature and death, earth and fire, very good depth for sitesearching
>no real reason to take bless
Take god for globals and boosters and get into tartarian production. Grab elemental nobility if you get a chance.
>>140478979I took an A2D3E4 lich queen for EBDW and cloud trapeze shenanigans. Is it too late for me?
>>140479395
For EBDW you Earth is lacking, I bet there are more proper casters on the map.
You suck, but not everything is lost. Try thugging anyways, don't care either it be Tart, Royality or just useless Bouda, thug em. Really try to go after some Global. At the very least try to cast Kindly Ones with one of your Lion Queen with great overcast, it will sequre one Global slot after you and make others suffer, that is the smallest thing you can do.
Ok, we switched to a 48h schedule.
>>140464657
No army on my borders.
Then again the tiny technical border we share has been infected with Lemuria cooties, so I guess supplying them would be an issue.
>>140482107
In this case we do not share a border in which I have a fort
Pan, would like to talk to you in steam chat, about stuff.
>>140478362
pls no. This is the MP first game I've played where I didn't immediately fail. At least give me one good game to not sour my entire Dom 4 MP experience
Shinuyama, are you here?
did this shit ever get released?
>>140493841
That version I haven't seen a link for yet. There's an older version, which I think doesn't have Jotun, Ashdod, or R'lyeh.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cixj9c672msdsn3/ItemUnits0.4.rar
I guess the guy making it is planning to add a few more nations before releasing 0.5? It's still quite a way away from being done, so it doesn't really matter much either way.
>>140493841
http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=2921
I've got a new tryhard gaming mouse, hopefully it will increase my skill in Dominions
>>140495089
Actually, you can bind several time saving macros to those. Depending on your setup especially cursor movement can be included. I've been trying to automate some aspects of the game but since nearly everything time consuming changes with paths and research I've only wasted time so far.
>>140494957
#justLAthings
>>140494957
My sitesearching luck has been better than in some EA games I've had.
Also, R'yleh, I'm going to suicide my prophet into your fort. If he happens to kill everyone in there, that's your fault for not being good enough.
>>140496223
You're declaring war on the most unstable person in this game?
>>140496564
No, I just want to get rid of him. If I was going to attack you, I wouldn't do it with a single unaided human commander.
Ay yo R'lyeh,
I don't know if eyes of god is the one that lets you see the graphs but if it does could you post em?
>>140497342
Oh also you have 12 hours left to take your turn plz do since I want to know how we all stand.
>>140496669
Why don't you send him somewhere else?
>>140498526
You're the most convenient place to send him
5 pd will kill him, I wouldn't worry
>>140399424
>120
You can tank death, production, temperature, and order with no adverse effects. By my math that's 480 free design points.
Don't worry though, summod has balanced this by reducing it to 440.
How do I play Machaka?
>>140498716
You can't set scales other than temp to be different for a nation. We could manually give Ermor a different version of each pretender which costs 440 points more, but, uh, desu I couldn't be bothered.
>>140498901
You send in your pretender then realise that your troops are bad, your mages pay too much for their crosspaths, and you don't have any good national summons.
>>140499164
Too close to home, anon.
>>140471271
Most of them are good and shouldn't change. The following are ones I would put on the short list for replacement:
>Desura Thug
>Burden of Time
>Astral 1
>Lugh the Long Handed
I'm not sure there's good memes to replace them with though. Maybe "meme game" itself is an applicable meme. Or Oeridia or FLatus might apply. Something referencing how shit Steam is might be relevant but I don't think there's some clever meme name for that at this time. Only one meme I can really think of that definitely does belong in.
>Pan was right
>>140499413
Personally, I'd replace BoT out of them all, because we already have some Ermor-themed memes on the team. Pan was right could be a good conteder.
>>140498919Don't worry, current summod version of Ermor seems pretty balanced anyway.
>>140499413
>Big Black Ulm
>A bunch of naked chicks into bestiality against STRONG, MIGHTY, ARMOR PLATED ZWEIHANDERS
You better have some MAGE SUPPORT to back up those naked chicks, buddy
Because I sure as hell do have a tonne of SHOCK AND AWE just waiting for targets to bomb back into the RAIN OF STONES age
>>140499728
Are you saying that because I'm bad, or because there have been enough other summod games where Ermor seemed at around this level?
Well C'tis, it looks like or war grinds on. Maybe some day I'll let you inside one of my pretty little forts.
>>140498706
I can't appear weak in front of company, senpai. You would do best to not send him into my lands unless you have a gift of lets say...5 death gems.
>>140484195
Nomnomnom
>>140501050
>Are you saying that because I'm bad
No. Get some confidence, fampai
>or because there have been enough other summod games where Ermor seemed at around this level? There hasn't really, but the cap income change means that Ermor now has a really slow startup.
>>140498526
R'lyeh, can we talk? Today, preferably?
>>140500775
Army? What army? I'm only seeing the dancers at the Ardian Festival.
>>140503484
Sure. Ratepe on Steam. I'm at work so I have to use the browser version, and I might disconnect and connect a lot depending on foot traffic around here. But I'll log in immediately.
What was the plan here, Asphodel?
>>140503190
>Give gems
No, fuck that.
I swear to godhaif you cast burden of time I'm going tobe very disappointed
>>140503449
>Get some confidence, fampai
I'm losing pretty badly.
But yeah, the cap income change has been pretty huge. My research has been behind and it fosters, for me, really defensive and passive behaviors that I think are not actually the right decision most of the time. The few turns I wait around trying to get that one big spell I'm close to just means my opponents have more turns of more research going for them.
The fort price increases were of surprisingly large impact as well. I think I might be over-valuing the fort freespawn in comparison to the others, but the main benefit of forts is protecting your all-important temples from being raided for free. You need a pretty significant critical mass of skeletons before they're worth anything, which again feeds into the defensive, passive mindset. Whereas in my pre-summod Ermor game I was out-maneuvering people due to the sheer mass of undead I could churn out, now I'm out-maneuvered by thugs and aggressive, comparatively small armies. Playing against actually competent players this time certainly doesn't help either.
The nation's in a very interesting place right now. Still has the unique mechanics and flavor that I like but it's hard to see it as overpowered.
>>140471271
Cirno's perfect Sauromatia guide.
>>140471271
>>140506826
Crix's Deathbasket
>>140506826
>>140507354
>this is the best that /domg/ can offer in new memes
Is Dominions ded?
>>140510431
If life is measured in memes then hell yeah, let's kill ourselves.
>>140510431
If you're going to talk that mad shit, you better back it up. I don't see you shelling out any suggestions.
>>140510690
Because I'm anonymous you chode.
Memegames is the newest meme I can think of.
>>140511706
Memegames are the best meme.
>>140399470
Did I miss a message?
S-stupid sexy C'tis
>>140499413
>>140499673
>>140499939
Thanks for the replies. Don't worry overmuch about who to kick out of the team, the poll will handle that aspect.
>>140506826
>>140507354
I'm not a fan of adding references to specific personages on the team, but I'll add these to the list. I doubt a lot of people will vote for them anyway.
The suggestions list as it stands:
6 Months of SP
Renowned Harvard Mage
Ermor/Tribless Ermor
2000 underwater ghosts in a fort/Underwater Archers/Korybantz
>balance
(something about Ys)
Thursday/The Patch That Was Thursday
Summod Poison Golems/Free Poison Golems
Muuch Muuch/Frog Mathematics
Bizarre Monogamy
Pan was right
meme game/memegames
Cirno's perfect Sauromatia guide
Crix's Deathbasket
I'll probably kick off the Ys suggestion unless someone comes up with a witty name for it.
>>140520639
everything besides pan was right is pretty bad, desu senpai
poll when?
>>140520812
Suggest some memes then.
>>140520812
Fuck off pan.
>>140521282
all of the good ones are already in the roster
>>140521463
I hate that furfag as much as every other reasonable person, but the meme is okay
>>140520812
Poll in about three hours, I guess. I'll run it through the weekend and maybe through monday as well.
>>140522795
We need time to make more memes
>>140502551
>>140523543
Don't worry though, recently I've talked it over with the black hawks. Turns out they're willing to help shore up some walls in exchange for some pretty air gems.
2/10 teams are in, 8 more to go.
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/0/364040166674562077/
for game details. Of note, this is very much so a bring your own team game. If you don't have teammates at the moment, I'd advise talking to people through steamchat, or talking to friends/allies/bullybuddies you've made in other dominions games you're in, to find them.
>>140523543
It also seems as if another fort was kind enough to spring up from the ether, so that we could hide inside it.
>>140524345
>I was going to ask you to join my team
>But you've already joined another
The modern Dominions 4 tragedy.
>>140527280
star crossed lovers in time and space
>>140527280
>>140524345
>I'm in a team
>Already
>The hell.
So for those lucky enough to have the score graph sites (Patala and R'yleh iirc) can you share with the class.
Just really interested, and I haven't seen them in what feels like forever.
>>140489595
Where is this from? I must know.
>>140532104
Overlord
>>140532232
Are the LN or the manga of this any better than the anime?
I watched the anime because the premise was kinda cool, but it ended up being a massive waste of potential filled with waifu bullshit and the main character trying to fit in as a regular human.
>>140533127
I wouldn't know, I haven't read any of those or watched the anime. I just like the webm.
Pan was right. Let the game burn. Let these aging memes die. It is time for the end. It is time for ascension.
>>140533363
That webm is definitely one of the cooler parts of the anime. It's a big battle between the MC and a super powerful enemy, with more actual thought going into the gameplay mechanics than is usually the case with shows like this. The fun part isthe MC ends up winning because he didn't cast Fire Resistance even though as an undead he is super vulnerable to fire magic. When his opponent shot fire at him he just facetanked it and pretended not to be hurt, so she thought he did have Fire Resistance up and didn't use fire magic for the rest of the fight. Not having Fire Resist turned out to be crucial since it freed up a spell slot in his script which he used to win the fight.It's something you could almost imagine happening in a Dominions-like game as well.
But like I said, the anime spends way too much time dwelling on the MC's collection of waifus and his exploits disguised as a friendly human adventurer, and not nearly enough on dungeon overlord shenanigans and RPG-style battles.
>>140534314
That does sound very dominions esque, hah.
I'm not really a LN fan, though.
>>140522795
>>140523478
A little over 30 minutes until I start making the poll. This is the last call for suggestions - remember you can also suggest ex-players (http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//domg/#Ex-players) if you think they should be on the team again.
>>140501050
They've been in a couple blitzes where they did fine. But there was also probably a substantial skill difference, so....
>>140534314
What would Ainz-sama's stats in Dominions be like?
>>140537830
Master lich with some diversity and in dom10
>>140520639
Also everything that was on previously should be up for re-election.
Is there a way i can prove i didn't do shit about Bane venom charms?
I'm moving insane scouts who sometimes attack the current province, but that's it.
>>140533127
The LN is generally better but it does spend a lot of time on shit that's kind of pointless.
if Azi has 6 eyes, why will losing 1 eye will be so annoying?
>>140536459
>>140538536
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1gG6JESQXZ3MKZwwg9QBZRGlXw4y_WgCJj05BHTY4K68/viewform
Poll's out. Your choices include all memebers of the previous team, plus the new suggestions.
Repostan because there are only two spots left.
If anyone wants to suggest a new map, speak now or forever hold your peace.
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=SansMemes
>>140540890Oerida
>>140541073
Don't come up in here with your memes you little shit
>>140538536
>2 astral
Does anyone have any cool guides on how best to make use of Demon Lords? The options are a little overwhelming and the drawbacks definitely give me pause. Should I just cast it as soon as I hit Blood 9 and keep casting it till I have all of them?
Sorry for not doing this earlier. Also sorry for doing it all in one post, but I'm lazy.
I've done so amazingly fucking poorly this game. I'm impressed at my ability to fuck up.
>>140542471
I don't have time to do a full guide right now, but in general yes, you want to get them as early as possible, even if it's just to deny them to your opponents. This generally goes for all shared uniques btw, including important artifacts. If you can get them and there's no pressing external reason not to, you should. With non-uniques it depends on what explicit use you have for them and the same goes non-shared uniques (like national summons), but shared uniques not only give you an advantage, but also deny your opponents easy access to that advantage. It's not necessarily game-changing, but any edge you can get is worth securing.
How to use them depends on which ones you get and what else you've got in your toolbox so it'd take a bit more time to go into that than I can spare right now.
>>140542471
If you can get them, you should hog them since they give you almost complete diversity and are all very strong casters except for water. Pazuzu and Belphagor are probably the best since high earth and high air are both extremely valuable, and can summon elemental royalty/forge boosters.
>no "elves have no word for consent" option
What sad times we live in.
>>140545891
Your opposition only makes me bully harder!
>>140546162
Reminder my cavemen throw rocks, your cavemen suck cocks
Would anyone be interested in a noob let's play? Get to watch me make boneheaded play after boneheaded play and laugh?
>>140546801
It depends, single or multi-player?
>>140546801
Only if you're playing multiplayer. Singleplayer is just... not the way the game is meant to be played. Nobody will learn anything from watching you fight against the AI.
These random names
>>140547870
Olav Tratjalalala and Lobo Mater are always triggering me. I don't know why.
>>140548063
I like the mictlan high priests called Huehue
>>140547870
fug :DDDDD
>>140547870
>>140547870
Random dead creatures are the best. I personally like Orphaneater
>>140546905
>>140546971
Oh definitely multiplayer, I scrap AI in single player and am just starting to get into multiplayer. I get to find what awful habits I developed from playing too much single player
>>140551745
In that case it's definitely interesting if you can make it entertaining.
>>140551745
Do it, fgt.
>>140551905
>>140552543
Aight, I'm on it. Never done youtube either so this could be interesting. And I'll post it if it's entertaining if it's boring I'll spare y'all.
>>140554712
For the love of blood magic, please, make sure to do audio editing before uploading it.
>>140554712
I hope you're a cute girl.
>>140540716
It's been three hours since the poll opened and we've got nine responses so far. Here are the current standings:
---Definitely in:
8 2000 ghosts in a fort
7 erf snek
7 Forester Bob
7 Heroic Obesity
7 Turnbullying
7 Ulm - Waiting For Turn File
7 Quadbless Mictlan
6 100 PD
6 6 Months of SP
6 Angry Stone Face
6 itdepends
6 Remove Elves
6 >stabbed by a methhead
6 Thursday/The Patch That Was Thursday
5 Astral 1
5 Giant Man-Eating Jews
5 Illfraud
5 Muuch Muuch/Frog Mathematics
----Only 5 of the following get in:
4 >balance
4 Bane Lord
4 Desura Thug
4 Lugh the Long Handed
4 meme game/memegames
4 Pankoman
4 Useless Kick
---Cutoff line
3 Bizarre Monogamy
3 Burden of Time
3 Ermor/Tribless Ermor
3 Have we checked on Ermor?
3 Summod Poison Golems/Free Poison Golems
2 Cirno's perfect Sauromatia guide
2 Pan was right
2 Renowned Harvard Mage
2 Scrub Club
0 2000 underwater ghosts in a fort/Underwater Archers/Korybantz
0 Crix's Deathbasket
Of course these standings aren't final. Still plenty of time to vote. Although come to think of it, I forgot to include a vote between Muuch Muuch and Frog Mathematics.
>>140556836
>no lizard memes
>>140542910
It's fine one post just means it's easy to look atthanks for these btw. I didn't think I was doing this well but I guess Agartha going AI and getting some extra UW provinces hooked me up.
I'll be sending you a message this turn so be on the lookout neighbor.
My expansion stack of expensive cap-only sacreds took a good province and then got slaughtered by another nations's sacred stack
Fuck Memegeddon III
Fuck Strength 9 Indies
Most of all, fuck Pan
>>140559972
Is this message armed and also an entire army of ghosts
Can shrimp soldiers take on capricorns?
Can Pelagia defeat the hordes of sea-ghosts?UW only all ages game when?
>>140560586
Oh man, where is this bullying going on?
I hate my new neighbors though. All the free food has left me, surrounded by enemies tough as steal (and one who started with 2 forts wheeeeeee).
>>140562095
Cealum stop complaining, we can be buddies, just don't try to claim forts with scouts when it's not anywhere near connected to your territory.
>>140560675
They're about trade and agreements mostly. Sorry if the ghosts are freaking you out but I'm building forts and most of the indie commanders I recruited were brutally beheaded by Agarthan Mercuries.
Play your turns
>>140567092
I did except for my meme game turn
>>140567336
Play that also!
>>140567336
Is that you Pan? Can we talk before I fall asleep?
>>140556836
Serious - swap out Remove Elves for "Elves have no word for consent."
>>140568298
No I'm Pan and I haven't even touched my turn yet
>>140568596
That's it, it's elfing town.
>>140568298
Ok lets talk
>>140569216
I'm in the steam chat whenever you're ready
>>140569209
It works both ways, honestly. Elves will elf the shit out of you if you don't cover your bum.
>tfw you find Throne of Water when you have W9
>tfw +7 defence
>tfw 35 defence elf prophet
>>140569541
Did someone order swarm and storm of thorns
>>140556836
Please also add Bat Lines
Everyone here is ded, that makes me the Pantokrator right?
>>140576371
>implying death doesn't make you even more power
>>140568596
>>140571905
Seeing as these requests are coming after I had already made the poll, I'm afraid I'm going to ignore them unless there's a big outcry against that. Anyway, with 22 responses so far here are the current standings again:
16 Turnbullying
15 100 PD
15 erf snek
15 Forester Bob
15 Quadbless Mictlan
14 2000 ghosts in a fort
14 itdepends
13 Giant Man-Eating Jews
12 6 Months of SP
12 Angry Stone Face
12 Heroic Obesity
12 Remove Elves
12 >stabbed by a methhead
11 Illfraud
11 Ulm - Waiting For Turn File
10 meme game/memegames
9 Muuch Muuch/Frog Mathematics
9 Thursday/The Patch That Was Thursday
8 Astral 1
8 Desura Thug
8 Renowned Harvard Mage
7 Bane Lord
7 Bizarre Monogamy
---Cutoff Line
6 >balance
6 Burden of Time
6 Have we checked on Ermor?
6 Lugh the Long Handed
6 Pankoman
6 Useless Kick
5 Ermor/Tribless Ermor
5 Scrub Club
4 Pan was right
3 Cirno's perfect Sauromatia guide
3 Summod Poison Golems/Free Poison Golems
2 2000 underwater ghosts in a fort/Underwater Archers/Korybantz
1 Crix's Deathbasket
>>140580975
>Useless kick is not getting into divegrass
I'm done with you fucking faggots.
>>140581471
Useless
>>140493841
When I said to give Abysia fire slings and MA Mari those super mercs as recruits people here said I was crazy and "unthematic".
Now some guy does exactly that and does not get meme posted to death.
Hey, admin. Utgard is chainstaling. And almost dead, thanks to Agartha's and Bogarus' efforts. We should set him AI.
>>140583592
They're not exactly normal recruits, I don't know what the eventual plan is for them but they're summons right now.
How do i wish for the Auluudh the aboleth?
Auluudh doesn't work, and aboleth give you an aboleth.
>>140578221
>Literally ErmorBy the way how the fuck Ashen Empire failed?(lorewise) Did they just ran out of legions to revive?
>>140588751
I think they were destroyed by Marignon that dipped into blood magic while at the same time wiping out Sceleria and other nations.
>>140588698
You don't.
>>140589195
>>140588698
There's a way to parse the wish dialogue in a way that it lets you summon anything by its unit ID, but I don't know how.
>>140586542
The original plan was to have the spells create a site (only works in capital) which allows them to be recruited.
>>140588751
Lorewise, there was a massive war between Marignon and Ermor. Marignon lost the final battle, but then they made a pact with Satan who gave them a shitload of demons and wiped Ermor off the map. it's the canon reason for why Mari turned from an angel-worshipping holy empire in MA into a demon-worshipping blood empire in LA.
Come on fags, I want to get started.
Wakey wakey join game, two spots.
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=SansMemes
>>140585504
He did just hand in his turn though, right?
>>140592435
How is Mari still worshiping angels alongside devils?
>>140593914
Apparently angels don't give a fuck what you do as long as you're winning.
>>140592949
Got space for one more?
>>140594661
Yeah hold up
>>140594661
Ok, join up so we can start.
>>140594860
Ok, thanks, decided on a nation at the last moment and then marverni came. Designing pretender.
>>140594860
Sent.
I might need half a day to submit my turn. Got kids and its midnight here.
>>140594860
Why the shit did you turn off all info?
>>140596549
Oh fuck what now, another restart?
>>140596948
Fuck that lets just roll with it.
I'm just annoyed because now I can't see the pretender names.
>>140596549
Mistakenly, but I hardly think it's worth restarting over unless everyone wants it.
Wish someone would have pointed it out when I was asking them to look over the settings.
>>140592949
Oh shit, I wanted to join that and forgot to send in a pretender last night.
Whoops.
<R'yleh cast Burden of Time
so what are the odds that some people can donate pearls to dispel that? Because otherwise it's staying up unless there's a global alliance vs R'yleh.
>>140605237
>non-undead nation casting BoT
Even with the lifespan of Ry'leh troops this will fuck him over too
>>140609118
Yeah, I'm sort of curious how BoT works here.
Not all of my mages seemed to be affected by it, and I'm at the point where this honestly seems less obnoxious than Posinia's fucking wrath of god was in the natgen game.
>>140609381
It's MR negates now, so your mages aren't quite as badly hit. It's also killing your population though.
>>140609381
BoT adds years of time per turn it is up.
So a few failed MR checks over a year = ancient, worthless troops/mages.
>>140609641
Still not as obnoxious as Wrath of God, since I at least know the mage will expire soon and can move equipment off of him.
The killing pop thing hurts everyone but R'yleh, so it's something I'm much more ok with. Still wouldn't mind seeing it go, but I imagine he overcast by a bit.
What are the /domg/ games currently active?
>>140614812
MEME
SUPPORT
battle video pls
>>140614812
How do you script that many mages and not go insane?
>>140615217
>implying they're scripted
He could've set them all to Attack Closest and still win.
>>140614945
>wanting to sit through 20 hours of casting.
Battle resolution alone took something like 2 hours.
>>140614812
>30 iron angels
For what conceivable purpose?
>>140615601
Simultaneous casting when.
>>140615601
>>140618132
>500 assholes casting blade wind at the same time
Can we get a sub for blitz?
hurry the fuck up, Marignon
>>140609809
We can safely ignore this.
Also, sorry Ulm, I didnt see anyone on Atlantis so I went over there.
How do use search boxes in inspector? The property ones? Say I want to search for mages with that much astral or whatever?
>>140628369
Just sort them by astral magic?
>>140614812
Is it from a 300% income/resources game? I've seen oneon SAand it seems fun.
>>140629684
300% games are fun, but dear god Xibalba is OP in them.
>>140629684
No, it's from a long game against AI. Year Seven or so.
>>140629972
>implying Xibalba isn't OP in normal games
>>140630789
Who would win in a fight? Xibalba or Nazca?
>>140630875
Nazca, MA Xibalba is shit.
>>140630875
If we're talking EA Xibalba, Xibalba would win. MA Xibalba is worst Xibalba though.
>>140631021
Without taking ages into account though. Best Xibalba. I know MA Xibalba is not great.
>>140580975
The elf consent thing has been pretty popular (see pretender names), and it pretty much covers exactly the sentiment that 'remove elves' does.
>>140622963
Pythium cares not for your wicked magic. Mostly because our mages are young, dumb and know nothing, and our maenads still have thirty good years of partying left.
What kind of pretender would you use with Nazca? Something with a big bless for Supayas?
Llama wont recognize my 2h file why?
>>140634954
You probably used the wrong turn, because the fagmin restarted the game.
>>140628369
Mpath =~ s
Mpath => sX (where X is the leve of atral you wnat)
>>140635118
Yup
>likes elves
Wow machaka, just when I thought you were a cool dude, You inner-rapist shows itself
Any MA games starting up soon?
I'm in too many EA games, I need a palate cleanser.
Do your turns, you nerds.
>>140622143
2 hours. I was too tired to think about it last night, but I had anticipatory remorse when I saw only mee and Ermor hadn't submitted
Sent in my turn file.
>>140593914
Goeticism. Mari doesn't worship demons or consider them sacred, they just work with them. Unlike Pythium who stops caring about Angels
Operation "Bully the Faux-king of Justice" has begun
>>140643214
I wish you luck.
>scripting battles when you have full diversity
4/10 teams are in. Only need 18 more players, or 6 more teams.
Then we can snake draft . . . I'm sure that won't take long.
>>140646045
>acquire one thug
>enhance thug
>win
>>140647083
>gets banished to hell or life for a life spammed to death
>>140646979
Join link/thread/whatever?
>>140649561
Make it a Grigori then you pussy
>>140649895
But then I'd have to be playing Hinnom, the worst hungry jew nation
>>140650024
Say that to my face and not online, see what happens.
Say, does anyone know what the Allret property does? I saw it set to 1 for a hero in the mod Szumogliika, and it's driving me mad not knowing what it does.
>>140651251
Increases the chance of RETurning from ALL other planes.It's in the modding manual.
>>140652254
Thanks.
>>140649757
Whoops, sry
Also we'll be using a blind snake draft, with pick priority given to Draft order first (i.e. if you're team #4 in the draft, and picked Xibalba->Lanka->Berytos, and the first 2 were taken, you'll still get Berytos even if team #8 had Berytos as their first choice). This will chop out snake down from 30 rounds to just 3.
Sum1Won will be acting as the neutral party for this.
Keep in mind that this is very much so a 'bring your own team' game, not one where you will be randomly assigned one by me.
Link here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/0/364040166674562077/
>>140653850
>blind snake draft
Oh, interesting. Hmm. The strategy for this seems pretty confusing, gonna have to have long talks with my team. What happens in the (seemingly very likely) occurrence that all three of your choices are picked before your turn? I suppose the later teams will just have to take that into account with their strategy.
>>140653850
Oh, it's blind? You should really mention that in the post.
>>140656060
Submit more than three choices.
>>140656402
The main thing blindness reduces is no same-round counterpicking. It's a loss, but it goes 10 times as fast.
>>140653850
>bring your own team
>>140656536
It still matters for pre-draft strategy, because it makes counter-picking a lot harder.
>>140653850
>bring your own team
I-I have no friends.
>>140656679
Counterpicking in a 10 team game is pretty silly anyways. It's not worth making the drafting period take two or three weeks instead of three days.
>>140656830
Send a message to a Worthy Opponent or Scary Ally from a current game, ask them to be your Fancy Disciples Game Prom Date.
>>140656961
I don't think it's silly; there's a lot of situations where the previous picks will affect what you want to do. I understand why it's not being done here, but it does make planning harder.
Bully therodos, I'm looking for mod feedback if you would accept my friend request
>>140657452
I'm honestly not seeing that, apart from UW specifically. Everyone will know what was picked between rounds.
>>140660154
For one example off the top of my head, say a large number of heat nations get picked before you in the first round. You'd then want a cold nation more, because that gives you less competition for good nation picks.
>>140660154
Let's say you have pick #7 and you get T'ien Ch'i, while pick #9 gets Agartha. You want to get Therodos to tie up the mediterranean and the black sea completely, but if T'ien Ch'i then picks, say, Caelum or Sauromatia before it's your turn to pick again, you might want to respond with another land nation - the other one of the two, Yomi, even Kailasa - to protect your vulnerable land nation.
>>140661495
Uh, you get Agartha, they get T'ien Ch'i. Wrong way around.
Why are Float Cat Horrors so best? Honestly I'm sort of starting to see Rejakor's point about Send Lesser Horror raiding. I'm sick of getting Spind Membrane Horrors against any significant amount of PD.
>>140666385
Hi rejakor.
Need I remind you that the initial crux of your complaint was
1.) About send horror, not send lesser horror
and
2.) Was because illwinter made it so that 1/4 of summons weren't fucking doomhorrors anymore?
>>140656830
I don't have any friends either, anon, and I want to play a disciples game. W-will you be my friend?
>>140666769
Depends, what nations do you want to play?
>>140666574
If I were Rejakor wouldn't I actually know the crux of my complaint, instead of just idly misremembering people bitching about it?
Well, that may actually be too much credit to him.
>>140667017
I don't really care. I just want to play a game
>>140667209
are you bad
>>140667264maybe
I'm not super experienced, but I'm better than some scrubs. I don't make the obvious newbie mistakes
>>140667435
We are now best friends. Find another friend and we can play.
>>140667151
You would in theory, but you would also have a huge fucking ego, and misrepresent the position you originally took so as to seem more reasonable in later disputes.
You're correct in that rejakor is now representing his position as being about how lesser horrors are shit at the moment (though he characterizes that as because they were raiding 1 at a time instead of in packs in his version), but the original complaint was far less reasonable:
1.) Lesser horrors can't take out 1 pd consistently, so shouldn't be used for pd raiding
2.) Regular horrors are not worth casting because they die to militia.
http://www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/horrors-they-kinda-suck-dont-useem
>>140667592
I'll try, sempai
If there are any other friendless losers out there who want to be in a disciples game with us, reply to me
>>140667874
You only need one more friendless loser.
Are either of you steamshitters?
>>140668153
Yeah, I'm in /v/anheim. Steam name: Kiraofthewind
>>140667670
I would agree that send lesser horror is not a good spell, and sometimes you get shit like a float cat horror that does have an annoying tendency to die to 1pd, as the commander and militia gang up on it.
Saying regular send horror is not worth casting because it does to militia is retarded. Unless you cast the spell at a province someone sank a whole bunch of points of PD into, in which case if you're expecting it to win against 20 PD you're also retarded.
The whole reason the spell is so high up the research tree is because it's a blood spell and you can spam the everloving fuck out of it because blood slaves are incredibly easy to mass, so send horror spells should be weaker than a spell that takes a pile of gems.
>>140668719
I'm not Rejakor by the way. That thread is shameful.
>>140668719
>The spell is weaker than it otherwise would be because it's blood
The main problem with this is that it's a crosspath, and not an easily achievable one. Only Abysia, Mictlan, LA Ulm and Bogarus can really cast it, and of those, Mictlan and Bogarus need cap-onlies to hit the astral requirement; an StR in Bogarus' case. And that's not getting into the amount of boosters you need to forge, which means 20 pearls (and some earth gems) per mage.
The spell can't be made more powerful because of Abysia, but it's just not fair to claim that others can really abuse it.
>>140657891
Just did, though I'm not sure how well I can advise you given the dog-pile I'm currently experiencing.
>>140669662
It is a crosspath, yes, but that does not mean the spell should be balanced otherwise. It is currently a very powerful remote attack spell, that takes some investment to set up, but then you can spam it repeatedly at a relatively low cost in blood slaves. Which, as a blood nation, you should be pulling in in massive numbers at that point.
In contrast, other nations can never, ever, spam remote attacks to such a degree unless they have mother oak up and blast people with repeated castings of call of the wild or something, which is pathetic compared to even send lesser horror.
Send horror is one of the strongest, if not the strongest, remote attack spells in the game and as you can see from the tests done in that thread, one casting can wreck even elemental royalty. Send lesser horror meanwhile is a perfectly competent spell to throw at PD, even if it has some reliability issues it is quite spammable even for a crosspath skill.
I also disagree that only those nations have access.
Again, taking into account that this is a lategame spell, we can assume most boosters are available.
So the nations with relatively simple access to these spells are:
Abysia, Mictlan, Bogarus, LA Ulm (cap only)
Harder but perfectly possible access through randoms are: Gath (Cap only), Utgard (Cap only), LA Marignon, Jotunheim.
Again, this is a lategame spell. It is very easy at that point for a blood user to empower someone up a level of blood magic, and throw the needed astral/blood boosters on them. Yes this costs a decent amount of pearls, but the spell is very powerful and once you actually set up the caster, you can continue to cast it repeatedly with no risk to the caster.
This is on top of Horde from Hell, which is a perfectly valid attack spell that is also in the blood magic tree. Far weaker than sending horrors, but on the level of the other remote attack spells meant to take out a few points of PD.
Let's not have this thread drop off the board, shall we? Updated standings:
21 Turnbullying
20 100 PD
20 erf snek
19 Forester Bob
19 Quadbless Mictlan
18 2000 ghosts in a fort
16 Angry Stone Face
16 itdepends
15 6 Months of SP
15 Giant Man-Eating Jews
15 Heroic Obesity
15 Illfraud
15 >stabbed by a methhead
14 Remove Elves
14 Ulm - Waiting For Turn File
13 Astral 1
13 meme game/memegames
13 Thursday/The Patch That Was Thursday
11 Bane Lord
11 Useless Kick
10 Muuch Muuch/Frog Mathematics
10 Pankoman
10 Renowned Harvard Mage
---Cutoff Line
9 Burden of Time
8 Bizarre Monogamy
8 Desura Thug
8 Ermor/Tribless Ermor
7 >balance
7 Have we checked on Ermor?
7 Lugh the Long Handed
7 Scrub Club
4 Cirno's perfect Sauromatia guide
4 Pan was right
4 Summod Poison Golems/Free Poison Golems
2 2000 underwater ghosts in a fort/Underwater Archers/Korybantz
1 Crix's Deathbasket
If you haven't voted yet, here's the link >>140540716
>>140675090
WHHHHY CAN'T I EVER KNOW WHAT THE FUCK IS IN THAT IMAGE
>>140661495
Don't get me wrong, I understand that there is value in doing each pick individually, I just hold that there isn't enough to increase the time requirement for the snake draft from 3 days to 3 weeks.
The snake draft, with draft order determining which nation people get over pick preference for conflicts, is ideal.
>>140675090
Happy to see useless kick above the cutoff now.
I'm pretty sad about scrub club, but I guess it's really old by now.
>>140675428
here you are my friend
>>140675874
>it's something I've already seen
kill me
i could not recognize it all those years ago
>>140675090
>the filename
Dominions general once again proving how retarded I am.
>>140675090
Also since I forgot to put up a Muuch Muuch vs Frog Mathematics question, does anybody mind if I just make an executive decision and pick Muuch Muuch?
>>140677043
Yeah. Muuch Muuch is an actual thing. Frog Mathematics was a silly image I modified to fit in the Muuch Muuch meme.
>>140676071
>tfw
>>140677043
no, i dont mind. frog math is derivative of the oc muuch picture.
what's the fucking muuch shit?
it's not even a meme.
>>140683378
It's a very low-key meme, but it's been getting reposted in these htreads for quite a while now.
>>140675090
The only ones I'm sad about are scrub club and lugh, but Im happy about useless kick, harvard mage, and, let's be honest, cirno's guide and pan had no fucking business being memes. The first was never a meme,and the second was forced.
>>140683982
Can Llamaserver playback issues be a meme yet? Cause I'm really getting sick of that shit.
>Also I learned against quadbless Mictlan that your mages are too stupid to realize that 30-40 jags are a threat, and therefore won't spend their gems, choosing instead to get fucking rekt.
>>140684214
Llama playback issues are entirely because illwinter fucked up their windows v. linux versions. Sorry. The llama version is the correct one.
>>140684456
Well, serves them right for not playing the game on its lead platform.
>>140683534
>1 autist reposts his frog meme
>it's a thing now
>>140685330
There are like 6 frog nations in the game.
>>140685596
How does it change the fact that a single autist is posting frog memes?There's another one with lizard memes, and another one with Undertale memes though. /domg/ is a weird place.
>>140685330
>>140685657
Well, it seems that more people have voted for frog memes than 'Pan was right', and lizard memes weren't even put on the list.
>>140685837
The issue is there are three different muuch memes.
>>140681726
>>140236114
>>140087683
>>140686263
She's actually a land/river/weapon god that loves frogs.
>>140686547
Sorry, but nobody cares about weeb shit.
>>140686263
>3 different memes
That looks like the same meme in different versions to me.
>>140687267
That they all deal with muuch in some way doesn't make them the same meme.
I'm playing late age atlantis vs ulm, and I beat their armies in the field well enough, but I always seem to lose like 400 troops vs 20 when I'm sieging. Is there something else I should be doing? I've made a communion squad of forgiving fathers for mage support but I don't think water magic's all that good
>>140493841
>>140494298
>>140583592
Here's some more item unit stuff. I'm going to try and finish MA first.
>>140688831
Nigga just summon a bunch of Unfrozen and cast Grip of Winter/Rigor Mortis.
>>140688831
To break into the siege, you want to use stuff that busts past their walls, or they will chokepoint you. This isn't easy. However, ice elementals will trample the dick of their shit. Combine those with grip of winter when it's cold, and maybe dankness.
Also, against many players one trick is to start all the way in back and guard commander a guy who is holdX5, attack. This will let you lure their hold and attack nerds outside their castle to murder, and fuck up their scripts since you're out of range. It wont work against people who know what's up, but it'll work against even good players who aren't expecting that kinda weird shit.
>>140689203
Oh, also:
Just fuck them up with tupilaks before storm.
>>140689273
Oh yeah, I completely forgot about tupilaks, that should really help. I think he has more commanders than troops now though so it might take some time, but since I'm sieging all of his forts he'll suffer more
>>140689108
Are unfrozen a combat spell?
>>140688938
Looking good. What items are Guardians of Oaths and Kavi Vanguard using?
>>140689502
Unfrozen come from hidden in snow.
>>140690431
Kavi Vanguard use enchanted ring mail since their forefathers were Yazata and they didn't use ice or steel. Guardians of the Oath use Demon Bane swords so you have decent fire res on top of their cold res.
Virgin Disciples is waiting for your bans and bantz, and bats are already banned.
Cum get some.
>>140636375
>Knife Ears
Isn't that like saying we support our Kike friends in Israel?
Can you forge an item in a communion? I just got a lore master with 3 fire, so if I empower him could I forge the mummy crown thing if I stick him with some astral guy?
Skratti go awoo
Muuch go kero
Minotaur go moo
Rome goes necro
>>140697176
Nothing but base magic paths and boosters ever helps for non-combat purposes.
Also, communions don't boost paths the master doesn't already have, and that artifact isn't really that enticing.
>>140697746
Isn't it? It's pretty good for a thug if a bit expensive. Might be biased since my current war opponent only built forts on his borders though so thugging is pretty enticing
How the hell can you need a whole 24 hours to take your first turn guys?
>>140698286
If those two guys stale, maybe we should restart to find new people and fix the settings in the same time?
>>140698325
Yes
>>140698325
The restart might well be what has caused them to miss it in the first place, I get your point.
An accidental stale might well make a man want to restart, so vote on this.
>>140688938
C'tis when?
>>140698095
We are talking about Amon Hotep, right?
70 gems seems just a little out of the standard thug price range.
>>140698669
Yeah, I think so. I've only got the one fire mage though so I've got a few hundred sitting around
>>140698931
Transmute them into gold and recruit more mages.
Machaka, of course take 257, if you need.
>>140699085
I'm actually pretty new so I might as well ask, but should I be equipping all my mages with just boosters or armour and weapons too? I figure the second might be more expensive but effective, or is armour pointless if I can just shield them with troops?
>>140699637
Most of the time trying to give every mage armour isn't cost effective since you have better things to spend gems on, you don't want to give them weapons anyway. Boosters and spells take priority unless you already have a shitton of them for whatever reason. The only nation that can really afford to gear out normal commanders is MA Ulm since they get forging bonuses on their main mage and can make dwarven hammers for 1 gem blacksteel armour or whatever.
So how many Astral Pearls do I dispel Burden of Time with? Or should I just say fuck it and cast Gift of Health?
>>140622963
Merely a scratch. I'm dispelling your shitty global, though.
>>140699637
Weapons almost never, unless you're equipping a thug or SC.
Armor not usually, but you might need it to harden against spells the enemy is throwing your way, or you might want to protect an especially important dude.
Boosters it depends, sometimes with one you can reach (or make significantly easier to cast) a (good) spell you might not otherwise be able to use.
>>140605237
I do believe I have the most pearlies
Send'em to me and I'll cast it
>>140699879
Probably a lot. Leaving it up for a long time isn't any fun.
>>140700416
You hush. You sponsored this terrorism. I have half a mind to PARACHUTE DROP a few LIBERATION ARMIES in your ISIS-CONTROLLED TERRITORY.
>>140700507
I didn't give anything to R'yleh.
>>140700610
Well if you didn't, then dispelling it won't be a problem. I have far more Astral pearls than ANYONE can conceivably have death gems on their own without being in control of Lemuria's capital.
Speaking of Lemuria's capital, whoever owns that probably helped the shitsquid.
>>140700689
You say that, but I'm willing to bet that R'yleh alchemized all of their gems into death gems in order to be memetastic
>>140700832
Alchemizing D costs far more gems than alchemizing S
>>140700882
I know, I'm saying that if you are going to try and dispel it you should put a reasonably big overcast on it.
I accidentally attacked Man because I was sleep deprived and trying to site search a province that turned out not to be mine oh god I'm so sorry wizards please don't attack me
+Heretics burn, it fills you with pride!+
>>140701195
Beating up unsupported R'yleh troops is like beating a paraplegic in a marathon
Iron darts and iron blizzard would fuck up the void creatures too
Why do I even bother?
>>140701510
For someone who DOES NOT SUPPORT TERRORISM you sure are sounding like a DIRTY UNDERWATER MUSLIM right now.
Besides, their TERRORIST INSURGEON FORCES attacked my MILITARY SIEGE of the great city of FISHSTICKS, capital of THE NORTH POLE
>WHEN YOU STALE BECAUSE TAKING YOUR TURN TAKES FAR TOO LONG
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>140701723
No terrorism here, only freedom loving vitamin D deficient defenders of justice.
Fukkit I'm sending a huge amount of S to Man
Man, you better not meme this shit up or else I'm going to nuke you to oblivion just like I did to Shinuyama in 1945
>>140701993
Please do. Am doing the same; partially to apologize for fuckup, partially because the spell is killing all my wolves.
lmao! 2stale!!1
>>140703496
are you feebleminded? turn 1 is always 48 hours.
but yeah, having turn 1 delayed that much is for sure annoying
Let's get a move on. I'm chimping out over here.
>>140704542
If we're in this same situation 24 hours from now I'm not going to be happy.
>>140704616
>>140704715
It would help if we could contact Helheim and Ur somehow. It's possible they just fucked up because of the restart and don't realise they're staling.
>>140705383
>>140704715
>>140704616
Go to the admin options, send message, tick only them, write an explanation, send.
>>140705383
>>140705458
The better option is to spam turn resends hundreds of times.
>>140706056
Don't spam turn resends overly much, it puts extra stress on the llamaserver
Only Helheim left now.
Play your turns
>>140712358_____ No _____
I got some weird BVC messages in a province with already low population, so it couldn't be other player.
So I patrolled there and this is what i got.
T-thanks.
>>140714695
Was this after that War in Hell event?
I got that shit in a recent game and these faggots popped up in like four different provinces.
>>140712358
I literally can't. I'm waiting for other faggots to take their turns.
>fighting a losing battle against multiple nations
>not wanting to play your turns because it's a depressing slow slog you can't possibly win
>>140715348
Reframe your thoughts.
If you can't win, you're no longer fighting for survival. You're fighting to cause as much damage as possible to the faggots who attacked you. Go full-out cancer mode. Raid their unprotected provinces. Destroy any labs you might have in forts that are about to be taken. Hide Bane Venom Charms in their production centres. Cast disease/unrest rituals at their capitals. Fuck them up so hard that even if they kill you, it's still a net loss for them.
It's a lot more fun thatn just desperately trying to hang on to what you've got, knowing that the end is inevitable.
Can I just siege a castle until everyone inside starves to death? I'm not too confident on my ability to take it but I don't think they want to attack either
>>140716082
Yes, but it'll take a long-ass time, and the other guy can always equip supply items.
>>140687267
>>140688724
Oh boy, let's discuss the definition of "meme" eh?
>>140716082
It's extremely inefficient. You have to wait until the enemy exhaust their stored supplies, then wait for starvation to cause disease and disease to cause death, which takes many many turns. And that assumes the enemy doesn't have supply-generating items or units that don't need to eat.
>>140716082
It's possible, as long as the opponent doesn't have magic items like the endless bag of wine providing his troops with provisions.
It takes a pretty long time, but you usually don't have to wait until they're all starved to death. Even a short time of starvation typically leaves his troops weakened and diseased, which makes them easier to defeat the normal way. You can also speed things up by casting Vermin Feast.
>>140699879
Do both, since they use different gems anyway.
>>140716254
>>140716357
>>140716432
Cheers, I forgot about the supply items. I'll hire some indies to soak up the arrow fire.
If I cast fate of oedipus, will the person with eyes of god up know I cast it? I don't like him looking at me but I'm not really ready to take him on
ermor gathers, and now my watch begins. it shall not end until my going AI. i shall take no allies, hold no provinces, father no units. i shall wear no magic items and win no thrones. i shall live and die on this province. i am the sword in the darkness. i am the watcher on the walls. i am the fort that guards the realms of ulm. i pledge my life and hitpoints to the ermor watch, for this blitz and all the blitzes to come.
The blitz is dark and full of skeletons, but the fire burns them all away
>>140699305
the Hinnomcaust is real, just goes around elves watch yourselves
>>140718410
Is that the extra elite units mod? How are the guys with flaming swords?
>>140715080
I can be a "The locals are conducting demon workship" in there.
I had no idea of any events that happened there, since i stole it from other player some turns ago.
any torrents for this game?
>>140723861
*I can see
>>140723956
None for the current version, as far as I know. You might be able to find one for an older version if you just want to try it out.
>>140700689
I assure you, I did not give anything to R'yleh. But if you're dispelling BoT, I'm fine with that too, as long as it goes bye bye.
>>140701993
Or you can send them to me, that works too. Pity the enchantment bonus site only reduces the base cost, and not the overcast, or this wouldn't even be close.
>>140723861
Press "i" for the province history.
>Loses Immortal permanently in my own Dominion for some fucking reason
>Tart vanishes into the ether after scripting goes berserk due to failed enemy assassins.
This game is becoming quite unexpected.
SansMemes turn is up bros
>>140698286
>>140698325
My bad, wasn't aware the game finally started. Was away from my computer/intoxicated most of yesterday. Should be a lot better about it this week.
SansMemes pretender names! Since enemy info is turned off I can't do a screenshot, so I'll just write them down here. Also, their prophets as bonus content.
>Ulm - Gamdok the Oldman (Fullofaudes)
>Marverni - BOARS (Boar-Man)
>Sauromatia - 300 Year Old Virgin (Meme Names Unavailable)
>Mictlan - Hell Awaits (Chiconahuiehecatl)
>Caelum - Ahura Mazda (Gavayan)
>C'tis - Bitches and Horus (Sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssammy)
>Agartha - So We were Molded by It (Basaltthought)
>Helheim - OrmrGhrd (Ask)
>Kailasa - POOINLOO, One True God of the Apes (Astika)
>Lanka - Awake Expansion Pretender (Dogwhistle)
>Yomi - Boss Oni (Saki Nonamezaki)
>Ur - Republican Party Crasher (Imin'shattam)
>R'lyeh - Glub Glub Motherfuckers (Broseidon, Lord of the Broceans)
team 1, send you bans
>>140732595
lukas is probably dead
>>140734016
Stabbed by a meth head?
>>140734246
Drained his soul out by a lich
>>140734246
His ex-wife burned down his house.
>>140734246
Annihilated by Rejakor's burning ego.
>>140734246
A disease contracted from a dirty telephone.
>>140734246
Anime got him and his whole family.
>>140734246
Gnomes beat him to death.
Tiny, tiny death.
>>140734246
Died from turn-deficit disorder.
>>140734246
Shot by the FBI for staling too many times.
>>140734246
Cirno wrote him a guide on how to breathe.
new thread when?
>>140738556
When you make it.
>>140738738
so never?
>>140740114
MAKE IT
>>140740871
DO IT NOW
