Snek 2 : The Snekening
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>Can I make enough ISK to PLEX during the trial?
If you have to ask, you can't do it.
>I just started, what should I do?
Do the Opportunities then find the Career Agents & run all of their missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.
>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No.
Read the /eog/ pastebin: http://pastebin.com/t9Af7NJY
Focus Group Logs: https://focusgrouplogs.tech.ccp.is/
Future:
>someone needs to do some research
Ongoing:
Past:
>Apr 27: Citadels & cap rebalance released
>Apr 23: Fanfest 2016 is over
>Apr 19: GSF camped into Saranen
>Apr 10: Drone Walkers flipped all Razor's space, then DRF (at GSF's request) attacked; DW now flipping DRF systems as well
>Apr 12: GSF begins absorbing Imperium corps; FCON and SMA bail and SMA moves to Outer Ring
>Apr 07: More CFC CSAAs have been destroyed than caps destroyed in B-R
>Mar 28: CFC is dying. CO2 reset. IWI funding the MBC to burn down goons
>Apr 07: White Legion. recruits UNITAS. (ex SMA)
>Mar 25: CSM IX voting closed (and Apoth withdrew)
>Mar 18: Guristas Hunt event (Shekel Madness: 3D)
>Mar 09: Project Discovery launched + massive mod tiercides that broke a lot of fits. Elo Knight creates White Legion.
>Feb 18: Last CSM X Summit: https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-second-csm-x-summit-meeting-minutes-included
>Feb 20: Carrier gameplay slides from Eve NT http://imgur.com/a/wppLG
>Feb 12: FAX will use the racial carrier skill and carrier w/triage fit will convert to FAX
>Feb 09: SP trading live.
>Nov 26: Fozzie confirms OGB removal in ~1 minute
>Oct 25: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/reworking-capital-ships-and-thus-it-begins/
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)
1st for Minmatar supremacy
2nd for Stratios is the best cruiser
>level 3 sisters missions for standings
>get Portal to War
>Do first mission, decline second because I like amarr standings
>Do like 2 missions
>Get Portal to War again
>There is only one level 3 SOE agent.
>several hours before I can decline this one.
I guess I'll go do something else, thanks for cucking me rnjesus.
OFFICIAL LIST OF WORST TYPES OF PLAYERS IN EVE:
1. Nullsec botters/ratters/mission runners
2. Highsec botters/ratters/mission runners
3. Nullbabby napfest blobbers
4. Lowsec 'elite' link-alt slave set pvpers
5. 'hisec pvp'
6. Miners
7. Industrialists
8. Traders
9. Scammers
9001. Honorabru solo roamers
90001. Small gang NPC sov nullsec/lowsec
900001. C5-6 WH pvpers
Post hipster sluts
waz pls x2
>>140717370
>anyone of the things you like doing would be impossible without the official worst list of players in EVE.
Nice buddy.
>>140717473
I think I would, as a parent, forbid lewd pokemon and anime figurines regardless of how autistic my kid would be
>tfw no free minerals this month cause of multiple incursions and dec's
>lose multiple exploration ships
Gonna have to go work the corner for Jita escorts if this keeps up.
>>140717473
Ay hol up you talking to my bby gurl? I'll fuk u up cuz u better not be sneak dissing my hoe I'll spit some lava ur way homie
>Player Built Cucksheds
>>140717370
#0 reyniposters
Threadly reminder that SOE missions are reaching poorfag levels.
>>140718112
reynipls
>>140718182
oy vey it's like anudda shoah, last time I checked they were 2-2.5k lp or something like that irr
>>140718182
Is that recent? Goons might now be massively grinding L4 missions because they can't rat anymore.
>>140718880
Its probably up to date with the last API pull. Its from the fuzzwork LP store calc.
>>140718182
threadly who cares about pve
>>140718967
threadly who cares about PvP.
Helldunk? Or blueballs?
Also do I join small newbro corp on an alt to re-live the fun times for me?
>>140718951
That's not what I meant.
I'm wondering if those prices took a nosedive just recently or if they have been gradually going down over a long time.
>>140719386
Gradually. They went down from like 1440 isk/lp a couple months ago. Explorers aren't dying fast enough to buy up all the exploration gear i guess. Plus everyone knows that if you are doing level 4 missions in highsec you HAVE TO DO Sisters of Eve because there is no other choices.except there is but don't tell anyone.
>>140718201
i'm not reyni
Anyone interested in making an /dog/ 4chan cup team?
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_6
Thread for ref
>>140669442
>first time suicide ganked
>notice I was scanned on gate
>oh shit where do I go
>no bookmarks, no propmod, no stations, pipeline
>onewayonly.png
>get to the other end
>I see my ganker-to-be
>timetodie.jpg
>disrupted upon decloak
>mash warp out button as I watch my hp drop to make sure pod escapes
>shields gone
>armor gone
>half structure
>disruptor fades away as ganker succumbs to concord
>warp away to repair at station
So this is the point at which I get wardecced, right?
Also damn, can small ships dish out a lot of dps.
In retrospect, I should have just logged out when I noticed I was being scanned.
Lesson learnt I guess.
>>140720913
how much was the value of your cargo and in what ship were you carrying it in?
also what kind of ship ganked you?
Jamyl is _____
>>140721094A cumdump
>>140720913
dont ever move more than a few hundred mil outside of a DST
its just asking to die
>>140721094
>amarr
>>140721094
dead
>>140721094
a drifter now
>>140720538
Absolutely, setup an in-game channel, or something.
>>140721076
~300mil in ~12k ehp.
Not paper, but now that I know what dps suicide gankers are capable of, it was still a terribly low tank.
I was moving a ton of ships through the same path and due to limited cargo space I had to squeeze all my assets into all ships, hence the sub-par tank.
Didn't expect a gank, then again - you never can.
>>140721310
What's a DST?
Deep space transport? The tanky industrials?
>>140722302
anything over 100 mil in a T1 hauler is a gank magnet when you go through certain systems
tfw no fortizar
>>140721256
No one touches the empress.
>>140721427
>>140721828
>implying she doesn't have a secret clone located in Polaris
>>140722602
Is this Autopilot only? I move valuable stuff in T1 haulers all the time and not even been locked.
>>140723093
obviously they can't gank absolutely everyone, but you are pushing your luck by trying it
>>140723093
No, manual warping can get you killed just the same, assuming the ganker isn't a retard.
If you use cloak+mwd trick that's another story though.
>>140722602
Is this what has EVE gone to?
I swear it wasn't that bad a couple years ago.
>>140723093
I wasn't autopiloting. And this guy was pretty organized.
Had his own industrials on gate to scoop loot and a scanner on at least one entry to the pipe.
I'm not sure if it's a good thing that I survived, he'll be out for vengeance for sure.
>>140722302
>then again - you never can.
>>140722602
>>140723239
>>140722302
>Deep space transport? The tanky industrials?
Yes. You need racial (that's Gallente btw) industrial 5 to get into one.
Then you need to tank it up. Also cargo expanders aren't very good on those because they don't affect the fleet hold, which is where most of the cargo space in them is.
The fleet hold is also useful because you can make is so fleet mates can open it directly.
>>140723478
>I'm not sure if it's a good thing that I survived, he'll be out for vengeance for sure.
Depends on the level of autism you are dealing with.
Most of them are just out for easy money, so they won't even remember you as long as you remember not to actually communicate with them.
>>140722031
>Needing to talk in game
All we need is ideas for player names, a team logo and some team music
Example of a team :
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//ink/
We'd also need a coach with a trip for identification purposes and "proof of interest" which could be only people replying to this post.
Have you guys seen that review video made by a /v/bro? it was hilarious and ripped this game to shred
>>140723860
>could be only
Ignore the word "only".
Well, that was fun while it lasted.
>>140722602
>anything over 100 mil in a T1 hauler is a gank magnet when you go through certain systems
cost for a fully fitted tornado = 120mil for 12.000 alpha
>10.000 ISK per EHP
you can bring in 10mil for every 1k EHP
you can double that, 20 mil per 1k EHP, if you wanna bet on the 50% loot drop rate and the ganker isn't a retard
>>140724341
> tornado
That's one ship class too high, m8.
A vexor can do it.
>Blasters
>>140724278
Mandelore stop posting this in every thread
>>140724737
>>140724341
Catalysts are the most common, but a vexor can go up to ~1k DPS for ~30 million, while a tornado has the benefit of having huge alpha and only needing to shoot once or twice, which means that its paper DPS doesn't work as it seems.
Either way works, but 100mil/10kEHP is still the proper way to go about it.
>>140723679
>over 50k hangar space untrained
Who needs cargo expanders? All I'm doing is small time <10k cargo trips.
DST sounds like a nice ship to train for.
>>140723846
Figured as much. Still, I don't want to tempt fate, so I'm logged out in a station where I was ganked.
I'll try to wait him out and then sneak out in a shuttle, bring proper tank mods and try to get my hauler out of there.
EFT says I'll pull off ~24k ehp. Still sounds pretty scary. Maybe I should unload a bit of cargo with something smaller?
I could get ~200/300 mil out of there in 2 maybe 3 trips. Should I go for it?
If I log in into a wardec I'll know what levels of autism I'm doing with.
>>140725056
A catalyst is not really appropriate for this kind of ganking.
500m range means you will need to be right on top of him and he can spawn anywhere around the gate, so you'll have to burn 10-12 km. He might have aligned and warped at that point.
>>140725441
><10k
blockade runners can get 10k and they're super maximum comfy
wow I feel dumb and paranoid now.
I guess I should train for a DST
>>140725689
>blockade runners
I was always wondering - how do cloaks work?
On other players' grids I mean.
Do I disappear the moment I click it or after the animation finishes?
Also can you cloak if you're being targeted?
I know only of the 2000m restriction, but it can't be the only one, can it?
I'm super confus.
>>140726550
>Do I disappear the moment I click it or after the animation finishes?
IIRC you become untargetable as soon as the server recognizes you pressed cloak.
Your ship bracket doesn't actually disappear from other players' overviews until the animation actually finishes however (+/- 1 second or so)
the best gank ship is amalleror afleet of mallers
>>140726550
>can you cloak if you're being targeted?
If you're in the process of being targeted you can still cloak and their targeting will fail.
If you're already locked then no, you cannot cloak.
>>140725441
Generally speaking, I made good use of courier contracts before I trained up a DST character on my account. That 1-2plex + 200 million for the DST itself + modules and you still have to only plex 1 account when you're done.
For courier contracts, either google Red Frog Freight or join "haulers channel" ingame and read the MOTD.
DSTs are best left to out of corp alts so you can move shit while you're wardecked.
>>140726550
You hit the button and you disappear. The only varying factor here is lag - you can still get locked before you cloak if you're really unlucky.
>>140726550
you disappear from overview a few seconds after pressing it, but once it's pressed, if people try to lock you, they will be unable to and it'll say you're invulnerable or you don't exist or something
if someone is in the process of targeting you you can cloak and their lock will fail. if you are already targeted, i.e. yellow or red boxed, you cannot cloak
>>140726842
>>140726893
>>140726913
>>140726914
Sweet. Thanks guys.
Cloaking sounds like something I want to train asap.
Now I know the true power of cloak + mwd trick.
>>140727325
the covops cloak on the blockade runner is even more foolproof. but yeah cloaking is real op, and both types of t2 industrials are really good
solo pvp at sun m8s, fite me with my 12 falcon alts
>page 10
>solo pvp
Why is there only one type of viable non aggressive support role (RR)? OGB doesn't count.
Remote seboing/tracking links come close, but these don't have dedicated fittings for the job, just some weird mutants that aren't combat worthy.
I'd love to see a fleet composition where members are paired up - SP intensive "big ship" guy with a small support guy and they together form a more formidable foe than two crap DPS fits.
Knowing CCP this will never happen. But why? It sounds like a fun ideaon paper.
>>140732946
with what they're doing to ogb maybe they'll make some more interesting stuff for boosting allies, like an area effect remote tracking computer or something, or a module you can target to multiple people
>>140733542
Yeah but it'll be pretty passive - put one buffing module on auto-cycle and play the rest of the engagement like you would in a normal fit.
I was thinking of something more active (like RR is now), though I have no idea how that'd work.
I'm hoping that the ship running a link module gets fucked on it's cap, so you need to either cap chain it or time the effect for when its best. Also encourages counterplay in neuts/damps
Rest in peace, Ashurman.
o7
>>140734325
>>140735005
>>140733542
Here's the dream for links.
Link modules are like Siege/Triage. When activated, provides the link bonuses to all allied ships that are locked. Can't move, significant boosts to self logi, can't receive remote logi.
>>140735865
indeed.
o7
>>140736441
>Can't move, significant boosts to self logi, can't receive remote logi.
This sounds abusable
>people just calculate how much alpha/dps it takes to destroy an immovable linkship through its reps
>always carry one gay setup to blap it off the field first thing
>side that doesn't bring gay blap setup loses links from start and has to face links
>>140737762
Let me know what set up is alphaing down a command dessie or t3
>>140738984
Dreadblap
>>140735865Shit it's true.
>>140739275
Alright, you go ahead and bring your dread to fights where links matter
Man the new tactical view is fantastic
>>140737762
if ccp aren't retarded they'll be massively reducing the bonuses links give, as well as making the ranges sensible
>>140741809
>if ccp aren't retarded
>>140742071
>that one guy who uses links to solo pvp in frigs
>>140741809
What should be the amount of ships in fleet to make bringing a link ship viable? There has to be a cutoff point of when a link ship is more valuable than another ship of a different type or else no one will bring them.
>>140742290
>one guy
>>140742290
>that one guy that is most of lowsec pvp
>>140742370
no idea m8. and I wouldn't be overly concerned about links becoming useless, that's way preferable to links staying overpowered
>new poorfag trying to do c2 sleeper sites in my shitty drake
>at the first one I find a brutix warps in and starts targeting me, grab my shit and haul ass out of there
>nigger gets in an imicus and starts trying to scan me down
>pop through two wormholes, end up in quiet area of nullsec, decide to just do some ratting
>find system with a bunch of combat sites and only one other person present
>head to a site on the edge of the system out of dscan range of any gates
>manage to rat for all of 3 minutes before an onyx lands on grid, with a tengu incoming as well
>warp off to my safe
>check dscan, onyx is now sitting on one of the two gates
>other gate is covered in bubbles on the other side, don't want to risk it
>no wormholes
>combat probes on dscan
>log out
I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SOME ISK LEAVE ME ALONE
>>140745158
you've done well to not die already. keep it up.
What's the most kawaii ship, m8s?
>>140745516
>>140745158
they'll get bored and leave, running away is fun
>>140745158
EVE pvp has gone to shit when killboards became popular (about the time wormholes were implemented).
People (some people) started trying so hard to score kills that the lengths they'll go to secure kills know no bounds.
Guess this is what happens when you mix autism with pvp.
But what can you do? It's EVE. That's what this game is about after all.
>>140746184
>EVE pvp has gone to shit when killboards became popular (about the time wormholes were implemented)
more like some idiots tried to do dumb shit. it doesn't matter
>>140746184
No, Zkillboard is the collaboration of information extracted from API's.
If Zkillboard didn't exist people would still gawk about their kills and efficiency because that stuff is available through the API anyway.
>>140746184
>People (some people) started trying so hard to score kills that the lengths they'll go to secure kills know no bounds.
>Guess this is what happens when you mix autism with pvp.
t. lowsec miner
yeah fuck those killboards making people want to shoot each otherthis is just your opinion btw
pvp was much better when nobody did it, right?
>>140747018
Existence of those tools hurts nobody. It's flawless and provides useful information. Issue is it's how much some people care about the numbers there.
For some those numbers define what's fun and what's not, that's why you see links cancer and other bullshit mechanics.
Getting kills has turned into fun. Instead of fun running its own track along with kills.
>killboards making people want to shoot eachother
>implying they don't make people risk averse faggots
>>140748036
being able to find things out doesn't mean you're risk averse
>>140747936
There aren't many alliances that actually care about it. PL and waffles do but their requirements are effortless largely and if you play the game you'll always meet them
anyone seen that video review made by a /v/bro. It was great. Anyone have a link?
Killboards make people do stupid shit like pulling rigs and implants.
>>140749435
yeah and that killed pvp right
>>140749435
killboards make people do stupid shit like caring if there are rigs or implants.
remove local
remove killboards
remove t3
remove tengoo
fixed eve m8s
>>140749435
>pulling rigs
this is fine because its usually followed by slapping on bulks
>implants.
reeeeeeeeeee add a weapons timer for pulling
>Post memedalor's video on reddit
>Collect gold and upboats
>He has to deal with the furries and subhumans from reddit
That's what you get for not paying me my fuel money you jew.
which t1 barge for highsec? i'm generally in 0.5, is it really worth losing the mining efficiency to gain survivability with procurer vs retriever?
>>140750556
dont do it
>>140750650
you can't stop me, dad. i'm an adult
>>140749895
It made people care about muh efficiency.
>>140750556
the only way to die while mining in HS is if you don't pay attention to who warps into your belt or who is in local
>>140750836
>people
*retards and blobbers
>>140751067
So 99% ov efe.
>>140750086
>make a huge time sink game even more of a time sink
gay ass shit famalam. I suppose you were in favor of removing watch lists too.
>>140751631
nothing was wrong with that
but one thing i agree with him on is removing local
its gay af
>>140751820
>no local
>no watchlists
>everyone just gatecamps in cloaky ships
wow such fun
>removing local
Do you want all the people in the fluid router network to lose their jobs?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10105309
>>140753052
>no "when interesting clothing articles come out" option
M8 pls
>>140750556
Go to some system in the ass end of Amarr space and use an untanked retriever.
Suicide gankers don't care about low-traffic systems and dread going through actual PVP space like lowsec.
Either mine in a dead system or a highsec island.
>>140753169
think that's "every couple of years"
>>140753181
t2 blaster catalysts bounce off my retriever with just damage control I and two medium shield rigs
>>140753226
There's been a shitton of new clothes in the past few month and if ccp i gonna ciiuewith these various events like frostline ogurista or disocvery we will get even more.
>>140750086
>remove tengoo
no. tengoo is the one who uninstall you.
join tengoo
Might start playing with a friend. How is E-Uni for a newbro corp?
>>140753410
>thinks I'm going to pay $15 for a plex to buy aurum to buy a virtual space t-shirts and pants... rather than just buying real t-shirts and pants.
>>140752432
>enter local
>everyone poses or docks up
wow such fun
>>140754004
you might have just inspired me to update the eog newbro corp picture
hey guys right now we have
>ph
>kf
>all-out
>euni
>brave
>rvb
anyone have suggestions? need to specify that kf is nothing near what it was and only for masochists. also need to update with current rvb activity levels if anyone knows that.
anyone have any dope corps that take day ones from /vg/ they want for consideration? lowsec? oss? and don't just drop a name, explain key points because i probably don't know them at all
what about like provi or something
>>140754540
>rvb activity levels
I saw their ad so they aren't completely dead. If that counts for anything.
>>140754540
>Karmafleet.
>Goonswarm, the most powerful entity in the game.
>Space: Null
This might need to be updated
Also add Dreddit. They'll accept anyone.
>revealing your corp on /eog/
why do so many corps want me to sit there on mumble and breathe heavily while saying nothing? i really just want somewhere i can mine in relative peace and quiet, preferably with orca boosts once in a while and the ability to sell my ore. i'm not looking to get married
fuck
>>140756616
>why do so many corps want me to sit there on mumble
because you need to be there to give/recieve communication
>i really just want somewhere i can mine
high sec
>>140754362
add a delay then. jesus this isn't complicated. The problem is instant intel not having any intel at all.
Oh man I'm gonna smash my fucking head through the wall for this game.
>Want to get playing again after a year, want to recover my trial account because I have 400m ISK on it.
>Forget password and try it over and over, finally reset my email after pinging CCP two times.
>Finally get that shit settled, go to local store to get prepaid card so I can purchase an upgrade on my account.
>Shit doesn't work, try it like every 15 minutes seeing if that fix it. Give it a night and try it the next day, still doesn't work.
>Purchase a Plex from a 3rd party retailer, but its not sketchy or anything.
>Works, redeem it and get 30 days more of gameplay.
>About to finally study to get access to Interceptors
>'Your trial account hasn't been upgraded, enjoy 30 more days of your trial'
>mfw
Can't make this shit up. 20$ for 30 days should fucking make you a member. I've ticketed CCP, if they don't respond I'm going to Iceland to slap the shit out of every fucking member of their company.
>>140757413
scammed htfu
>>140757413
I'm like 90% sure thats supposed to upgrade your account, the ticket should fix that
>>140757413
If you're half as convincing in your ticket as in this post you're gonna get what you want.
>>140757072
>add a delay then
no local
thinking of coming back, im a dirt poor shitter who can barely fly
what do
>>140759013
start small and work your way up like everyone else
>>140759013
erp with highsec miners, pretend to be a qt kawaii grill and earn plex for free
>>140759013
joingoonswarm
>>140759845
>Join spaceautists
ftfty
>>140754340
You can buy everythink with isk nigga.
>>140761482
>get some LP
>go to LP store
>mfw getting items basically for free
IT JUST KEEPS TUMBLING DOWN, TUMBLING DOWN, TUMBLING DOWN!
>>140745158
>>combat probes on dscan
>>log out
rip
>>140761750
time isn't free
>i mine it so its free
>succubs
>it's not even sexy
...
SUCC
>>140759013
realize nothing pays except incursions
play something else
>>140764564
>nothing pays except incursions
[wormhole noises]
>>140764750
>Look how high my isk/hr is when I dont include the hours I spend doing menial work like scanning and salvaging
>>140764750
>explo meme
get lucky and hope no one tries to shoot you
>>140765146
>>140765141
both wrong!
>>140764564
>have incursion alt but don't want to deal with incursion kikes
>missions are suicide-inducingly boring
>wormhole are too much effort
Is there anything, y'know... fun to do in this game?
Don't say PVP, I don't have mastery 5 on any ships, or an offgrid booster alt.
>>140765440
>Don't say PVP, I don't have mastery 5 on any ships, or an offgrid booster alt.
No there is nothing fun in eve, please leave as soon as possible, thank you
pvp
>>140765440
did you consider erp?
>>140764564
>>140765146
IM RIDING THIS GRAVY TRAIN RIGHT INTO THE GROUND
>>140766173Are you the ceptor explorer??
>>140766173
Fee Fy Fo Fum
Reyni's cevix bout to feel some cum
>>140766410
One of them
>>140766173
>>140766173
lucky you
I havent found anything in a week
>>140765572
my problem is there is no in between
get lucky like this guy, or run incursions for 100mil + an hour
before that you dont make bank, and without isk you cant afford pvp or just play the game at all.
level 3 missions are some serious bullshit, a lot harder than level 2s and it just doesnt pay enough when you can barely run them without losing your ship to some gank because your fit isnt optimal and neither are your skills.
>>140766696
I have to try it.
One day...
>Titan Doomsdays
>Not a Hel with Target Illumination projector.
BAM your whole fleet now has 35% more signature radius for several seconds, whats your next move FC?
>>140766884
Starburst
>>140766884
my next move is to alpha you with my +100 titans/supers
enjoy your wreck.
>>140766796
explo is great when you live in wormholes and just run those sweet sansh/gurista sites when you are scanning them down anyway.
If you are new and are trying level 3s, invest in a gnosis - it will fuck them hard an it is 100% role bonuses, working with a variety of weapons and drones, and armor or shield tank (shield is better though).
also, low sec belt ratting n a t1 destroey is pretty good money. a little inconsistent, but as a new player it's certainly more consistent than exploring, so long as you're smart about it.
the first 3-6 months are rough depending on how you train. just focus on frigates and destroyers early on so that you dont feel the need for a ton of isk. when you are only flying things you can afford to lose, you will always feel wealthy.
also friend ship best ship I hope you have a good corp with people you like - which is way more important than having skilled corp mates.
>>140766796
By this point in the game no newbie should be running missions particularly if they're already in a group of players.
Missions are something to do in your solo time if you legit have done all your other daily/bi-daily tasks eg manufacturing orders, chains, scanning etc. Missions are a stop-gap designed to keep the player busy while other activities time out and refresh.
Missions aren't the greatest income earner unless you do them for SOE or potentially out in null (and even then only for a very select few LP stores anyway).
At the surface level you're much better off running C3s/C4s with either an alt or another person, the income is roughly the same and you could argue the risks are lower in wormholes due to things like hole control. The major difference between wormholes and null missions would probably boil down to the much shorter pay out periods - null gives you BPCs or items which you can leave in station or cash out in a market. Blue loot requires salvaging and hauling at some personal risk (though not as much as the krabs would tell you).
>>140767341
>Running sansh/gurista sites
>in wormholes
u pullin muh leg m8?
good god why are these tutorials/opportunities so clunky
>>140767736
not at all
pirate relic/data sites spawn in class 1-3 wormholes
>>140767838
the in game tutorials are, and probably always will be shit.
>>140723860
What about testing and aesthetics? I guess you could just 4-2-2 like a monkey.
>clone soldier training tag
should I just sell those ?
How do carrier pilots pick the fighters they want to use? Is it just like drones and everyone uses gallente and minmatar?
>>140763445
explain how its not free
>>140723860
I'd be interested. I'd have to ask some of the managers I know whats involved with running a team, I'd need to actually buy PES, and I'm not really super familiar with the elite dank memes of /eog/ from a standpoint of like,Oruze Cruise, orAll-Out, orknowing nullsec drama ect.. This isMinerbroand I've been watching the 4cc every season since winter 2014, but I've never really watched much of the /vg/ cups. Ideally based on other teams that I like anyways the players/memes should be like,
The captain, vice-captain, and goalie should be things that are pretty much eternally heroic for EVE and /eog/
Some examples are
>Creed from /tg/
>Spike from cowboy bebop for /a/
>Messi from /sp/
>Richard Stallman for /g/
>Hitler and Donald Trump for /pol/
>Part /eog/ culture
>Part whats going on in EVE
>Part general EVE memes
the last three are like, things that should be spread across the rest of the players, and should rotate pretty regularly, like every season or two.
I don't know jack shit about the aesthetics and how they are imported, I also don't own PES for testingthough after talking to some of the managers I may be willing to buy pes and test/manage.
how do you finance pvp without plexing?
>>140773462
missions, wormholes, incursions, scamming, erp, ratting, exploration, ninja salvaging, being less shit at pvp
pick one
>>140773061
Nevermind for multiple reasons
>sign-ups for /vg/ league 6 ended yesterday.
>Theres a backlog of a shit ton of teams that only get called on to play if they need a gap filled.
Maybe next season there will be a shot idk though. Also i feel like most people on /eog/ don't give a shit and wouldn't want the thread being spammed with attention whoring memes.
>02:52:50 Combat 2657 from Infested Carrier - Glances Off
>>140775536
kill it with trasher
i believ in u
>>140775634
me alrdy ded ;_;
>tfw your husband dies of being a fat fuck EVE player
>tfw you post on /r/eve because that's literally all he had going for him
>tfw his legacy is taking faggot space ship games way too seriously
my sides have opened into new dimensions
>>140775536
>amarr
>>140773061
i'm also mildly interested, for what it's worth. i've never participated in or looked up the 4CC until just now, but it looks kind of funand god knows we need something to keep the thread alive in autz
Perfect example of I like this and I don't like this and screw the truth. EVE is not your standard MMO/video game. I'll respond just to part on mining...
First he left off how incredibly important mining is to the game as a whole as EVERYTHING player produced IN the game (and that's the vast majority of ALL the products available in the game) depend on mining. Without it, EVE would grind to a halt.
And as it is hugely important, it seems there are probably a few more than just "2" miners... and obviously all those miners are out there playing every single day... thousands of them. The gameplay is not just "target rock - press F1", there's drones and rats and salvage and watching for local spikes and working out of the client on those infamous spreadsheets and chatting on comms with the rest of the guys you are mining with and running haulers or a Orca... etc. etc. etc. ALL of which the reviewing asshat completely left out. He took a look at an immensely complex game and gameplay and left out a HUGE amount of the details... the details of which ARE the gameplay... not just target press F1. Id10t.
This is one seriously fecked up review that will act to push people away from one of the best and most immersive MMOs on the fecking market... Thanx, butthead.
>>140776002
link
Someone mentioned on /v/ high sec got a lot more dangerous in the past year, was there actually any changes going through? What sort of incentives were made for suicide ganking in high?
>>140776614
>high sec got a lot more dangerous in the past year
They lied to you. CCP have only nerfed ganking.
>>140776805
Really? In what way?
I don't play anymore, but I do try to pop in every once in a while to see what's happening with the game. Last thing I remember reading was that sleepers were making incursions into k space and podding players.
>>140777136
Yeah sleepers weren't a huge botch and right now we are having amazing fun dodging sleeper gatecamps in Amarr. CCP also buffed ganking and there's like only a handful of dedicated hisec miner corps left. Everyone else is out mining in nullsec. It's so much fun having people living in null systems that my corp has moved out there to defend a bunch of miners, I know it sounds gay but it's fun as fuck enaging in small gang skirmishes with neighbouring gangs. And citadels are only adding to they dynamic ever changing nature of those fights. No more static structure time based combat "events" now we fight almost whenever we log on. Cheap FOBs like citadels allow us to set up small throwaway bases to clone jump to behind enemy lines and fuck with their freighter supply lines, which are just starting to come back after the JF nerf, at least for the few hours until the citadels gets removed.
>>140776002
not everything is made by miners, reprocessing works too so the game could function without miners entirely
>>140779060
It would be extremely inneficient, considering the very low amount of reprocessable salvage you get
I kinda want to buy a ''Factory'' Structure in my home system. There is a few stations in there but none with manufacturing. Keep the taxes at minimal fuel pay rate and let the locals use it
>>140779371
I'm pretty sure theres a decent amount of items that are cost effective to reprocess, idk though I'm not into industry
>>140779590
Cost efficient yes, but unless you get them as drop from rats, they were created by people before. Basically you'd be living on reserve, then when it expired minerals influx would be rats, and as such would be ridiculously low.
If you're an enterprising individual you could try just farming high value items and selling them at jita -5%. According ti ccp at fanfest there is more "value" in the game than there is isk so with people being poor compared to the environment there's definitely a market for cheaper goods.
Or you can hedge your bets in ichoriya and make fat margins on a select few items.
>>140779590
My favorite part is how people that don't mine are the ones constantly complaining about mining, how they should change it, or how the game would be better if they removed it. Its like If I made a bunch of posts complaining about small gang or blob pvp, I don't do either of those things, my opinion on them is literally just damaging. I'm not sure what the goal behind the motive for asking for changes is, do they want to mine but just don't like how it is now? Do they want miners to start doing stuff they obviously don't want to do?
I get the impression that a lot of people that want changes to mining want it to be like exploration. If the people mining right now wanted to explore they would just explore, the reason they like mining, or at least the reason I like mining is that its a super "infrastructure" or "homely" profession. Like they could change it so that its more active or whatever, though I do like how mining is less personal than a lot of other professions, like I'm not just controlling a single pilot, I'm managing an infrastructure of many pilots and a booster, while also managing the facilities, the shipping, and maybe industry if I want to take it that far.
People might think multiboxing is just gay at its core, and I can understand that, if they could capture the feel of real mining right now and remove the multibox aspect it would be super cool. Right now mining feels like PI done right, its EVE RTS edition.
Like they could change mining so that instead of a mining barge shooting lasers it like sent out drones, that were kind of like probes, that you controlled remotely where mining itself instead of some gay ass minigamesorry explorers, it captured the feel of multitasking between a bunch of mini-characters that could scale to large numbers.
I think by now you're just drinking the coolaid.
Mining is pretty much the lowest form of gameplay. You are bottom of the food chain. Please don't confuse being a herbivore with being anything more than it is. When corporations allow mining divisions its because the cost of your presence is outweighed by the benefit to the greater ecosystem. Some corporations literally forbid mining because it doesn't make you better at anything. Low barrier to entry and very low skill ceiling.
>>140781359
you know what, as i started reading your comment i was thinking of how to retort but you pretty much convinced me your position was valid by the end.
maybe the thing that makes mining get my goat isn't that you have to be good at infrastructure and logistics and have a bunch of accounts in order to do it well - it's that coming into the game, it's a newbro trap. they hear "mining" and they get this idea of it in their heads. the problem is that their idea (cozy mining by themselves and upgrading their ship and modules continually a la diablo 3 or cookie clicker until they're space rich) doesn't match up with reality (economy of scale, multiboxing, boosting, markets, hauling), and they leave disappointed. the newbros leaving disappointed is what people don't like about mining, not the mining itself.
i bet many fewer new players hear "trading" and get the wrong idea and try it and are disappointed and leave. new accounts who want to trade, trade, and they train and learn and it scales and they get rich. and the people who don't like dealing with spreadsheets and graphs and margins know not to even start into something called "trading".
I'm not sure how to fix this.
>>140767341
>low sec belt ratting n a t1 destroey is pretty good money
it really isnt
you'll get the occasional rare spawnwith a bounty or loot worth like 1 or 2 million, I did quite a lot of low sec ratting at first and it was mediocre
you can pay for your thrasher sure but thats it
>>140782694
I'll let you know I'm the local belt ratting guru and youre full of shit.
>>140782694
it was great when internal force field arrays were wroth 10 million
now I imagine it's a lot worse
I used to get enough expensive meta 4 shit for it to be 25 mil pre hour easy, as long as i chose the right space and right hours to run it
now it's probably a lot shittier, unless you get lucky with mordus spawns
>>140783981
Ebin reply homo. I bet you didn't even die to an npc cap yet xD
>>140784212
no I didnt because we're talking about belt ratting in low and obviously a newbro doesnt have level 5 mastery of a fucking thrasher, and if you make a lot of money doing it then you have the training and isk for a more profitable
activity
>>140776163
Comments in the video
>needing mastery V for ratting
ayy lmao
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>CCP FoxFour
I would
>>140784913
i've got a soft spot in my heart for api-first developers
>>140782009
Here's what I'd do.
Change survey scanners. They now function sort of like how planetary interaction scanning works, on an individual asteroid basis.
>scan the whole roid to see its mineral composition
>find an area to place a mining drill
Add in a deployable structure called a mining depot or something. It has cpu/powergrid and slots like a ship does. You then fit it with modules that increase
>drone bandwidth
>drone control range
>fuel hold size
>ore purity(bear with me)
This structure has drones that fuel the mining drills(you have to manually assign them to the drills), if a drill is mining in a highly profitable spot on the roid you may have to assign more than one drone to the drill or else the drill will halt with a full ore hold and be less efficient with its fuel and its mining speed), and take ore from the drill and put it in the mining depots ore hold. You can then minmax between
>how long it will run without refueling
>how fast it will mine (more mining drones for more drills)
>the mining range (more drone range means you can put it on roids that are father away)
The ore "purity" is of high import for this system idea because I think it would be cool to have a in between for ore compression/reprocessing that was a small enough m3 size and high enough value that pirate players would find value in crashing miners supply chains.
That brings me to supply chains. My idea would be for most of the players minute to minute gameplay to be managing from a management screen his many mining depots. He could then send out like mini-industrial drones to haul purified ore from the various mining depots and bring them back to the drilling platform.
It would be cool if they had random events that created a sort of priority management system instead of a timed rhythm. The idea being that you making a bunch of compromised decisions trying to squeeze efficiency in you mining operation that's far more hands on than PI.
>>140785562
Pirate players are already crashing miners supply chains because lmao tears xD.
I want Reyni to sit on my face.
>wanting to sniff balls and dick
>Open eve
>Current discussion in pub channel is who is the best spice girl
What the fuck guys
Do you guys get the bar of soap in between your asscheeks and lather your butthole up when showering?
I do, but I am curious as to how many people out there actually wash their butthole when they shower as well.
>bar of soap
What is this? 1920? Shower gel nigga.
>mining drones are worthless!!!
>>140786956
She is a girl.
>>140788108
With a dick and balls.
>she
I heard that dreadnoughts are dropping in price. What's the average for a Moros right now?
>>140789469
about three fiddy
>>140789469
they cut production mats off it
hello how much money do i make in the following using a confessor:
c1 wh
c2 wh
c3 wh
>>140791110
kill sleepers
am i playing eve correctly?
>>140791110
Barely anything
Nothing
You lose money
>>140791110
ignore >>140791569 I read how do you do it
I've used a svipul for whs in the past a bit, but this should apply to the confessor too. I've found its only really worth your time if you get lucky and find a c2 magnetar/wolf rayet since you dont make much isk/hr in the first place. you could probably net 60-100 mil an hour doing that
>>140791649
wrong
you should be playing aa2 or cm3d2 with a whore that has Reyni's likeness
>>140792069
>>140787086
i definitely do this as well anon
i should really get back to shaving that too
>t3 industry
>>140792038
thanks for the help anon
it's very much appreciated
Tech 4 when?
playable Jovians when?
Earth when?
playable Terrans when?Aliens when?
>>140793136aliensdon't exist anon
eve is hard scifi only
https://interstellarprivateer.wordpress.com/2016/01/15/carolines-star-4-kardashevs-children/
wew lad
>>140793136
>t4
Someday, maybe in the last year before EVE dies the devs will give us ebin toys.
>playable jovians
They ded.
>earth
hmm
>>140793247
>aliens don't exist
Give proof.
>>140793247
>hard scifi
>antimatter charges are the only plausible ammo for blasters
>you restore more cap/shield/armor/hull than the cap you used to activate the module
>mass values in the game are fucked up
>all celestials have perfectly circular orbits according to maps
>lasers are long range
>frequency crystals don't make sense
