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Old Thread: >>140650926
xth for there are more nipples than there are people in the world
>>140699428
>WOTLK is widely considered where everything started to go to shit.
I agree and I thought this was obvious to everyone but apparently there are people out there who think WotLK was the shit. It had nice questing areas and I liked Ulduar a lot but shit like Naxx2.0 and the Crusader Colliseum ruined the fucking game for me.
Needs more draenei.
>>140699687
WOTLK was a fun expansion so I can understand where the opinion comes from. You have to look a bit deeper than "what did I enjoy the most" to see all the awful, awful changes that WOTLK added that ended up evolving to the full on awful shit we have now.
>>140699687
Not to mention the addition of the LFG tool.
>>140699428
>WOTLK is widely considered where everything started to go to shit.
Only ToC and the Dungeon Finder in 3.3 were actually bad though.
On that topic. If I were in charge of prepping WotLK for a Legacy release, I'd combined ToC with the ICC 5 mans balanced for a raid. You compete through ToC, then after beating Anub, with no other way out, you bust through the wall into Forge of Souls, fight you way through Forge, finding a portal to the Pit of Saron where you confront a Scourge Lord. After battling through the Pit, you enter the Halls of Reflection, culminating in an escape from the Lich King himself. I've always thought the ICC 5mans should have been a raid, they're a far better lead in to ICC itself than ToC was.
It would require minor terrain tweaking and a bit of balance work, but honestly I don't think it would be too hard assuming Blizzard still has dev tools compatible with 3.2/3.3.
>>140699794
>addition
you mean extension
>>140699830
>5 mans being made into a joke
>bring the player not the class instead of classes bringing unique, powerful tools
>super short time to kill in PVP
>Arena gear becomes a "grind x time to receive loot" instead of a reward for progressing through the ratings.
>multiple raid modes to stretch the same content between casuals/hardcores instead of seperate raids for casuals/hardcores
>LFD
>nostfags
>yfw you can still log in
>>140700067
Who cant log in?
Needs more Meme Regime
>>140700083
nostcucks
>>140700084
>>140700110
But we can, Kronos 2 launched this week and everyone is rushing to 60. I've been ganking kungen fanboys all day
>>140699948
5mans were always a joke.
>m-m-muh Strath muh Scholo
People 10manned that shit.
I don't give a shit about PvP though honestly. I honestly liked PvP best in Vanilla and BC.
Raid modes and LFD I already mentioned though.
>>140700084
there are only 4 people in the meme regime from now until the end of time. People need stop forcing the incestral and ralph meme.
>>140700189
this
>>140700183
They were pretty challenging in BC.
And no matter how easy you think vanilla 5 mans were, you cant even begin to compare them to the AOE fest we've had every expac WOTLK on (ignoring the few weeks Cata 5mans were good)
>>140700189
Meme Regime rep here. People who force the ralph meme only add more fuel to the fire. it's a double edged sword. While obviously not being a member, we welcome the memes it creates.
>>140700454I unironically think you guys are really cool
>>140700323
Granted, but that's not because the dungeons themselves were easier, it's because Tanks other than Paladins were given viable methods to generate AoE threat.
The biggest issue with Post-BC Dungeons is not difficulty, it's design. 5mans after WotLK were creatively sterile. They were laid out like video game levels rather than real places. That's why Scholo and Strath are so loved, they're "real" places that just happen to be dungeons rather than the other way around.
This is why so many people give WotLK a pass on the 5 man issue. While WotLK dungeons were easier, they were also places that fit organically into the world.
>>140700634
>Granted, but that's not because the dungeons themselves were easier, it's because Tanks other than Paladins were given viable methods to generate AoE threat.
Yes, which is part of the design problem. Making every tank able to effortlessly hold threat on a whole pack turned a large pack of mobs from "how the fuck are we gonna deal with this" to "fuck it pop some CDs and burn them down"
>>140700627
Thanks senpai.
whos the coolest member /wowg/?
>>140700821
Do I have to actually level everything on the alpha realms to test them at 110?
>>140700821N-Nizbun
>>140700170
>having 300+ ms
nah ill pass
>>140700880
minigamer realm is automatically 110, I think
don't know if the regular realms are still capped to 108 though
can i grind 80k gold in a week questing on 3-4 characters?
>>140700747
That's really the crux of the issue. With things like Shield Wall dropping from 30 minutes to 30 minutes, the ability to pop them on every other trash pack combined with AoE threat made it possible the laugh through it.
I think Blizzard should move away from trying to bring back "hard" CC like Polymorphs in 5mans and move it into a more active role. Short stuns, debuffs, and incapacitates brought by DPS specs, with mobs that will wreck a tank if they aren't used effectively even with CD's up. WoD was a bit like this at the start when everyone was 610-615 and it was neat. Unfortunately everyone just overpowered content 2 weeks in because gearing up was so easy.
>>140701149
>With things like Shield Wall dropping from 30 minutes to 30 minutes,
3 minutes*
>>140701149
its tricky though because they want to disarm CC across the game for pvp, so they've been rapidly removing CC so you can't reasonably expect to have good CC in a 5 man given its only 5 people.
>>140700964
ive seen people at lvl110 in pve realm dalaran
>>140700821
Members Of What?
>>140701263
Well blizzard has recently been splitting pvp even further from the rest of the game, so I wouldn't be shocked to see something like polymorph being just completely untargetable on players.
>>140701263
They should just make the PvP and PvE talent trees mutually exclusive imo. It was really neat being able to make a noticeable difference in days gone by just by using Disarm or Kidney Shot to help the tank out, I liked stuff like that better than hard CC.
whatg if there was a boss which made you fart but to beat it you uhad to make it make you fart so much that oyu uszed it as a jetpack to reach it 's weak spot
>>140700821
None. They're are all the coolest.
>>140699830
>Only ToC and the Dungeon Finder in 3.3 were actually bad though.
That's wrong, Naxx25 was disappointing to a lot of people for various different reasons.
On top of the first raid tier being just a rehashed vanilla raid, It fell far too short of Sunwell both in quality and difficulty.
>>140700821
nobody because we dont excist, just an illusion
What is the best addon for Tannan Jungle?
wowgnee lyf3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bgs7MM1ZreY
>>140700876
>>140701841
the kill yourself one
How much does the felsteel annihilator sell for on your realms? Think it'll go up or down as we get closer to Legion?
I only just started playing again so it's a bit late to try and raid for it now. Unless I spend the next months gearing up all 10 of my alts to grab it in the prepatch, but frankly spending that time farming gold would probably be easier.
>>140701841
look up the honorbuddy addon, it makes tanaan jungle lots of fun
>>140702019
1.000.000 eu
>>140702019
It will most likely be reminiscent of the MoP CM sets towards the end of the xpac. People will be rushing to buy it so the prices will probably go up a little bit.
But you're a shitter if you ever contemplate a carry regardless of your excuse.
>>140702019
I believe it goes up, because lack of raiding guilds, guilds disband, unless we get HFC 20% boss nerf, even fucking T3 pieces go gold cap, way too much gold
So given the very limited number of masteries that actually alter play style in legion and the fact that the mastery for all of the tank specs are simply survivability increases should masteries be given to characters at 10-15 or 55-58 in the case of DKs?
They all add a lot of passive power to each spec even before mastery gear becomes available and in the case of blood DK's missing out on that shield makes the earlier half of your leveling just that little less enjoyable
>>140702116
It'll end up on the black market anyway, so what's the difference?
>>140702225
If HFC gets a 20% nerf, the mount probably won't be available anymore.
>>140702338
gold cap willl be 10mil, bots pay 10mil np
>>140702249
yes desu, you can enchant looms for mastery, should just be a starting stat
>>140702338
Difference is gold cap (and auction cap) in Legion is 10m.
>>140702416
>>140702470
Isn't that more reason to buy it now then?
So is it possible to transfer large amounts of gold cross-realm by making a new guild and transferring the character to the new realm with all of their gold in the guild bank?
>>140702703
Yes, unless you like paying significantly more for the same mount for whatever reason.
>>140702842
You have to do a guild transfer, and that guild has to exist with you as the GM for a few weeks I think.
>>140702225
>>140702380
I doubt we're going to see any changes before the prepatch now. There just isn't enough time left.
>>140703587
the blanket raid nerfs aren't really patches, all the enemies just get a zone-wide debuff.
Anyone here play on Emerald Dream?
What side? How's the server?
can anyone remember when SoO nerfs came? 1month before the exp?
>>140704573
the heroic to mythic transition was 4 weeks before WoD
>>140703971
SoO never got one of those though. The closest it had was the additional upgrade levels, which was months before the prepatch. And HFC has already had that now.
>try 7 days trial to play wod
>bg is a clown fiesta
heard something about a new human racial, is that what caused this imbalance?
>>140704664
The top of the arena ladder is something like 90% alliance/10% horde
shits fucked yo
Are elemental shamans fun in minigames? I'd also have an unplayed druid which I used to play in resto but I rather heal on my monk. Should I dig out the druid and play boomkin?
PLEASE HELP I CAN'T DECIDE WHAT TO PLAY, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>140704734
play feral
>>140704664
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/pvp/leaderboards/3v3#page=1
>>140704734
>>140704849
dont listen to disinfo guy, he wants to be the only person with that dope pvp artifact model that balance druid gets come this new expac
>>140704904
the balance pvp artifact skin is shit though
>>140705008
ok disinfo guy, why dont YOU play feral then
>>140705058
Because i'm not a minigamer
>>140703971
They usually come at the release of the next raid, like when it happened to highmaul and brf when hfc came out
>>140704734
Ele looks good in Legion as far as casters go. Huge improvement over live. Too early to say how it will compare to other casters, but I think they'll be in a pretty good place where people can actually have fun playing the spec again.
>>140704849
I don't wanna be a nigger with a cat mask, though!
>>140704904
Thank you for the warning, is the disinfo guy a lizardperson by any chance? Also, what does the artifact for boomkin look like?
>>140705116
>lol the balance skin is shit
>im not even going to pvp in ligeon
full on damage control disinfo guy, nice try but im gonna get that skin inside the first week
>>140705158
look at this shid, it has an actual eclipsed sun on it, its THE BEST skin, i can't wait to show it off
>>140705283
holy shit that looks awful
>>140705307
disinfo guy said, tears rolling down his cheeks as he realized that more people were finding out about his favourite skin
>>140705283
That looks decent, although I'm not a big fan of scythes. Using banner slicer on my monk xmog BECAUSE IT'S HOT AS SHIT.
Back to the question, is elemental shaman any fun at the moment? I play on US from EU so the latency is kinda annoying for most melee classes, hence I prefer casters.
>>140705307
Go away, Lizardman.
>>140705283
Why use that when every other skin for it is better
>>140705283
Are druids the muslims of WoW?
>>140705661
DRUID HARAM SHAMAM HARAM IMAM HALAL
>>140705661
>>140705756
>The symbol of islam represents an eclipse that took place thousands of years ago (Balance anyone?)
>They don't eat meat, they don't drink alcohol either
>Both muslims and druids love nature
>They have their own Mecca (Moonglade) where only other Druids are allowed inside
>They worship a moon goddess, Elune. Allah started out as a moon god originally.
REMOVE KEBAP FROM PREMISES
BASED GARROSH DID NOTHING WRONG
>>140706058
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Rx-e5hGdLA
>>140706058
>>They have their own Mecca (Moonglade) where only other Druids are allowed inside
explain the Lunar Festival then
>They worship a moon goddess
only if you're ally
Tauren worship a generic nature goddess and trolls worship the loa
>>140706819
it's been implied that the tauren worship elune as well but under a different name, I'll give you trolls though
>>140682381
Knowing your women fuck horses can do that to you.
>>140702019
1m~1.5m, depending on waitlist.
>tfw only have 250k, won't be able to buy archimount
>>140707402
Don't worry, you can at least buy CMs with that
>>140704734
stop screaming please im trying to sleep
>>140707448
Speaking of CMs, has anyone tried them on the alpha yet?
>>140707791
They are not in yet.
unbelivable you can get banned for spamming Heavy Leather Balls
Wait why the fuck did Vanessa Vancleef have the furlbrows killed?
"because they were the only people who knew me lol" doesn't make sense, Everyone and their mother knew who Hope was and there was literally no lead on who the new defias leader was until she revealed herself.
Not to mention the fact that two literally who farmers aren't going to doing any investigating, or the fact that they were trying to leave westfall. Did Vanessa think they were going to get a letter in the mail saying "hey guys it turned out that orphan of yours in the new crime lord" and come back or something?
Why the fuck am I thinking about this 6 years after it happened?
>>140707791
>>140707886
mostly because there aren't CMs in Legion
>>140708289
Here is the problem: you're taking the lore seriously. The only expansion with halfway passable lore isMoP
which mistweaver 30 talent is the least shitty
>>140708329
They've redesigned them so they aren't straight timer runs anymore, but they're still called them challenge mode.
Unless you're saying it's already been cut.
>>140707448
I did them myself. I would do archi-M myself too, but finding a guild this late is p.much impossible
i might end up buying BH's mount just because I'm lazy tbqh
>>140708497
>lets retcon a bunch of shit but not tell anybody for 3 years
>halfway passable
>>140708503
Chi Wave and it's gr8.
>>140708637
You've still got 4 months.
>>140708503
Depends on the fight. Take Burst if you need stacked up healing, Zen Sphere can help in PvP with an extra dispel the enemy needs, Wave is a general sure whatever it heals things not situational.
>>140706058
>They don't eat meat
???
>>140709070
vegetarianism is very common in night elf culture, especially among druids
otherwise though he's just talking out of his ass
are there any addons to make localdefense not fucking spam my chatbar?
I still want to see it but the spam is ridiculous
>>140710001
/leave 3
Or the number of the channel that LocalDefense is
>>140708637
>finding a guild this late is p.much impossible
Not true at all. Lots of raiders leave this late into farm. I'm in a US guild within the top 10 and we're trialing like 4 people right now. Granted they all have 13/13 mythic experience because our roster is big enough to raid without trials, but guilds further down the chain with smaller rosters surely have the same attrition issues.
>>140704719
>>140704851
Why are the first 10 pages only alliance? wtf is going on?
>>140708637
I don't think I've actually seen anyone selling the BH mount
>>140710435
yeah but I still want to see it
Can you buy the base game + WoD then boost straight to 90, or do you have to create a starter edition account first?
t. lazy cunt.
I tried to level a resto druid but got bored and went mistweaver instead
it's unreal how much more fun mistweaver is
Any chance trading Steam wallet/keys for prepaid 60 day cards? And if so what are the going rates?
>>140710761
>>140709045
Already tried to look in my server but there is no guild that raids only weekends, is near enough to archi and wants my class. The only 13/13 that I could get into would only get me if I would stay for Legion, and I'm not going to lie to them just because I want the archi mount.
>>140711120
it's going for around 200k on my server, usually the guilds that sell archi-m also sell bh-m
>>140711359
too bad they'll destroy the spec in legion
Alright i just hit level 100. Throughout levelling i noticed unless i perfectly aligned my procs, built up a lot of imps before each fight and sacrificed a goat to appease my thirteen dark masters in hell i could not keep up with the DPS of similarly levelled characters.
Is demonology bad? I really like it more than destruction and affliction. Is it just a case of getting hand of guldan timing down? Do i need to use glyph of imp swarm?
>>140711431
Are you unwilling to transfer because you're poor or just don't want to get off your server? Some guilds are desperate enough to pay for transfers.
>>140710761
If you've got HFC mythic gear and experience, I'm sure it's easy to move between guilds. If someone has only recently started again though, it's pretty hopeless.
>>140711747
>is demonology bad
yes, it used to be the best, but in 6.2 blizz decided that it should be shit
a shame since it's the most fun and engaging to play
>>140711105
I don't think the development team even plays the game, drifted far away from the reality
>>140711924
It's really not because people only really look to move up. We're at the point now where the top 455th guild in the US is 13/13M and guilds like that (and below) are losing people to better guilds, so the ones that survive the attrition need to do it somehow, and that's generally by recruiting less experienced players.
>>140712091
I like it because its cool to have hordes of demons feeding you power to turn yourself from a slow mage into a mighty demon that can run around spamming shit. Though realistically i suppose the demon form probably shouldn't move much either, gotta cast those soul fires!
How the fuck do burning embers even work? Demonic Fury has a number, soul shards are obvious, but burning embers just have a bar without any clear numbers. How the fuck am i supposed to know how much of an ember i will get from each spell?
>>140711747
Demo is great, just very gear (more specifically, trinket) dependent.
>>140711779
a bit of both
>>140711318
Nobody knows?
Can you guys at least recommend me a good EU PvP server? One that has even A:H ratios. I dunno how reliable Realmpop is.
>>140712443
Can you give me any advice that would help me then? I've only just hit level 100, what kind of trinkets do i need to look for and what are the best places to get them?
Mastery procs? Int procs? Crit procs?
A guide i read said i needed int, mastery then everything else was about the same. Is that really true? It seems to be like haste and crit would be better than multistrike, as crit improves soulfire damage and haste gives more imps, whilst multistrike and versatility give jack shit.
>>140713091
>what kind of trinkets do i need to look for and what are the best places to get them?
Class trinket from Archimonde and Gaze of Seethe from Iskar. The guide says Mastery because it scales directly with your class trinekt. As I said, it's gear dependent, don't play at as a fresh 100.
is WoD the worst expansion?
>>140713832
Yes
>>140713832
Yes.
WotLK gets shat on too much, Cataclysm had a good launch and 4.2 was kind of alright, and only ebin memers hate MoP
>>140713832
yep, cata second but doesnt come even close
>>140713832
TBC = Vanilla > Wrath > MoP > Cata > WoD
imo
>>140713832
MoP > Wrath > Vanilla > BC > Cata > WoD
>>140714182
>WotLK gets shat on too much
Dumpster version of Naxx on launch as the only raid. Ulduar dropped fast for Crusade suffering. ICC not even that great when it finally came outside of the five mans. Poop tier armor design across most of the expansion. WotLK Death Knights still the most broken class to ever exist and their reign lasted for far too long.
If anything the expansion gets too much love.
I just managed to restore a femundead mage I had deleted in cata for whatever reason. She's level 80. What good transmogs are there for female undead mages at 100?
WOW LEGACY SERVERS CONFIRMED
RETAILKEKS BTFO
ENJOY SITTING IN YOUR GARRISONS FAGGOTS
Im kicking myself for rolling undead monk, shuda gone orc --------__---------
>>140713832
Cata was bad, but at least they didn't show outright contempt for the players like in WoD.
>>140715007
>Poop tier armor design across most of the expansion
Is this a joke? Wrath had generally the best armor design of any expansion.
>WotLK Death Knights still the most broken class to ever exist and their reign lasted for far too long.
You severely exaggerate how long they stayed broken. They got nerfed a fair amount and reworked several times.
>>140715529
if anything it'll be Legion with slow levelling
hey guys I have the free week and I haven't really played much since Wrath of the Lich King (mostly active during TBC). what are the coolest things I should do/see in a week? which class is the most fun right now?
>>140715324
wow epicly trolled good sir xD!
you really got me good lmao! pwn'd!
>>140715324
XDDDXDD XDDD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD6tVRwxCY0
>>140716091
Man, even Blizz on their worst days has never hyped such a non announcement so much.
>>140715929
please respond
>>140715929
classes/specs lost their flavour when WOD got released.
>>140715929
umh theres nothing much going on right now
>>140713832
I like it to be honest
>tfw Blizz keeps ruining mistweavers even more so the chances of Kari coming back are ever so dim
hi /wowg/ friendos!
That announcement from Blizzard was fucking retarded. Why don't they just admit that nobody likes the current game anymore and people just want to play the older versions of the game because they are simply just better games rather than "le nostalgiagoggles meme xDD"?
>>140717173
The worst feel
>>140713832
WoTLK > MoP > TBC > Vanilla = Cataclysm > WoD
>>140717742
Wrathbaby....
>>140717876
started in TBC little memer
take off your nostalgia goggles
>>140717673
>fistweaving is already back
Source on that, please?
>>140717449
Yeah man, I sure do hate having my spec actually be viable and fun. Sure wish I could go back to vanilla where I was forced to heal if I wanted to raid. So fun.
>>140717941
>I was leveling during sunwell so Im totally not a wrathbaby!
stay mad wrathbaby
>>140717941
end of tbc was the beginning of the cuck expansion WOTLK literally embraced cuckoldry of the shit tier community and gave them all the tools that would lead WoW down the path that it is on today.
Fuck WOTLK.
>just realized that I, somehow, never drank January's Brew of the Month
HUH?
rate my mog 5-10
>>140717967
Look at the Alpha talents. Fistweaving is here but its a very different version from both MoP and WoD's ideas of Fistweaving.
Mistweavers have incentive to melee now, as its not a mana strain and it resets a cooldown. It does not heal anymore though.
>>140716091
>>140716767
source now faggots
>>140717987
>Yeah man, I sure do hate having my spec actually be viable and fun.
Found the guy who doesn't play a Survival Hunter, Assassination Rogue, BM Hunter or Shaman.
>>140717575
But I didn't even play on Nost and I want to play TBC over vanilla anyway. Enjoy your garrisons and other shitty "content". After legion dies we will finally see Blizzard releasing legacy server bringing WoW back to it's former glory.
>>140717987
Even though TBC and vanilla aren't perfect, they are still million times better than the current garrison/queue simulator no content Facebook game. WoW is dying and at some point Blizzard has no other choice than to open legacy servers.
>>140718150
Are mistweavers flagged as being melee or ranged?
>>140718308
In the past Healers were generally flagged as ranged, but I don't know how things will be in Legion with all the class changes.
>>140718308
Mistweaver in Legion are ranged with special privileges that let them stay in melee and not be targeted by certain mechanics that would hurt the melee. It was from a blue post a while back, I'll dig it up for you just give me a bit.
Is the current WoW levelling experience fun enough to be worth subscribing for a month or two?
Haven't played in ages but I have all the expansions up through Mists since they gave them to everyone a while back. Was thinking about maybe rolling a new character and casually playing up through WoD so that once Legion comes out I can check it out if it's not a total mess.
Does anyone run older dungeon and raid content anymore?
>>140718417
Mistweavers have always been flagged as melee
>>140717987
>makes healing class
>Ugh, why do I have to heal?!
>>140718209
>PvE
lmfao
Is Legion not going to have a beta test? Are they actually going to release the alpha version?
why is wowg so much slower than wpsg?
>>140718751
We actually have a game to play
>>140718209
>all those specs are perfectly fine, if not great, in PvP
why can't PvE babbies into balance??
>>140718228
Then you just think you want legacy, but you don't.
What you want is for the game direction to change towards vanilla/tbc, not legacy servers
>>140718751
We have a game to play lmao
>>140718624
Hunter isnt viable in PvP either :^)
>inb4 2s
>>140718439
>The announcement is that there is no announcement
Okay.
>>140718698
>a 10 year old game with some old mechanics like that is still infinitely better than what Blizzard now has to offer
can't make this shit up
>>140718841
>unironically saying "you think you do but you don't"
>that enjoyment you got out of private servers was fake, you don't actually want it
>>140718875
holy moly you're a retard
>>140718439
There is Kronos now and it has the same population that Nost used to have. And there is absolutely nothing Blizz can do to shut some of these servers down since they are hosted in countries that don't give a fuck about these copyright things.
>>140719121
well then i guess signing that petition was fucking worthless
>EU Horde
If anyone is interested, I'm gonna level an alt on Argent Dawn EU Horde and hopefully put together a guild where we can all idle until Legion comes. That's assuming anyone even wants to play with wowg at legion. I am fully aware that it will be ded guild but it beats getting spammed with guild invites or sitting in some other shit guild, might as well be where the memes are at.
>>140718841
>le pristine meme
b8
>>140718875
False
>>140718875
you are literally fucking retarded and have never played a single BG in your goddamn life
>nostfags keep telling us how WoD is worse than hitler
>WoD still manages to keep millions of players paying $15 a month
>nost couldnt get more than maybe 10k players with no charge
But I'm sure legacy servers are a viable way for blizz to make money
>>140718308
>>140718472
Found it.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20742354476#12
>We intend for you to be able to use these abilities naturally in dungeon and raid content, without being unfairly punished for being in melee range.
>For example, a Chain Lightning or Void Zone targeted at a random player with no warning will wipe or seriously disrupt the group if ever targeted at a person in a melee clump. If you can get targeted by it, there is no option but to avoid being in melee at any time during the encounter. Mistweavers and Holy Paladins should not be targeted by these sorts of abilities.
>On the other hand, imagine a debuff that requires you to move away from other players for a short time or move to a certain location. ... We are much less concerned about asking Mistweavers or Holy Paladins to respond to these kinds of mechanics, because they can still use most of their abilities and be reasonably effective while briefly out of melee. In these cases they'd simply be handling the same mechanics that other healers were required to handle.
>>140719341
>>140719370
tricked :^)
>Metzen cucking nosteam and forcing them to sign things that they won't release anything and will be legally responsible
>spouts pristine server meme to divide the nostcucks
>forces the team to make some non announcement so people will be disappointed completely
I sometimes have to admire the cunning blizzard has in such issues, it is pretty hilarious how much nostdevs got OUTFUCKINGPLAYED
>>140718902
modern wow is like bringing your kids to a 5 star resort only to have them sit in the room and play farmville on their tablet the whole trip
>>140719481
I mean, France has legal ties with the US, as does the UK. But if they hosted the servers in, say, a scandanavian country or a former soviet block state - they could tell Blizzard to go fuck themselves and they couldn't do shit about it.
>>140719637
>Defending Blizz ever after all the shit they've done
Pandafags everyone
>>140719481
>You ll get cucked like the rest because you dont know what blizzard's lawyers can do
France and the US are partners. There are a lot of countries where private servers can be hosted and Blizzard can't do anything to shut them down. That's why all the most popular servers have been up and running for years.
>>140718841
This is kind of true desu.
Ideally Blizzard would just put their hands up and say "Look guys, we dun fucked up"
and then restart WoW from vanilla and make different xpacs
>>140719292
im interested, won't be back til mid august though. get the guild in the op, it won't be the only dead one in there
Has anyone in history ever been as cucked as noscucks?
>>140719292
>EU Horde
So what went wrong, /wowg/? Why is WoW now a dead game and only a shadow of former self? What is the best expansion and why is it TBC?
>>140719726
>I mean, France has legal ties with the US, as does the UK. But if they hosted the servers in, say, a scandanavian country or a former soviet block state - they could tell Blizzard to go fuck themselves and they couldn't do shit about it.
The entire EU has the exact same "legal ties" you retard.
And in the entire EU private servers are perfectly legal. All intimidation letters have been successfully ignored by every other server except Nost.
Which either means that Nost is a bunch of scum sucking turds who planned this all along to angle for positions at Blizzard, or that they have some real dirt on them that can't be uncovered in court or they're fucked.
>>140719958
bugger off ralph, he's trying to foster the eu community, which is more than can be said for you
>>140719060
I don't mean that your feelings for those servers were fake.by the way, the original "you think you do, but you don't" guy probably didn't mean it like that tooDo you want to stay on the same patch forever? Never getting any new content? You need to be a madman to actually want legacy servers
>>140719312
pristine is a start but they need to change much more in the direction of the game
>>140719821
ideally they would continue what they're doing while taking the tbc design more in mind instead, going back to vanilla and going forward from there would be better than legacy servers but still a great problem
>>140719834
Alright cool
>>140719958
haha great meme dude, instead of just giving up on it I at least want to scrape together the people who actually do give a damn
>>140720054
>EU
>community
pick one lmao
>>140719992
Best expansion was MoP. BC was a horrible failure of shit lore.
>>140719637
>being this deluded
Care to explain how Pristine servers divided anyone ever?
Even on the fucking blizzard forums of all places, where the shit of blizzdevs is consumed by the tonne, everyone said they wouldn't work
>>140720091
>im supporting them
why? even your boyfriend bearheart is disgusted at WoD and a lot of legion changes
>>140719894
Molten WoW has been up for ~8 years and has a bigger population than Nostalrius had.
Nostalrius Begins?
more likeNostalrius Ends
>>140720140
>LFR
>LFD
>pandas
>shitty theme
>faceroll content
>homogenous classes
>new talents
>no depth
I could go on and on... TBC was objectively the best.
>>140719894
Fuck you cuck I don't play on private servers, I just have some idea of international copyright laws. There's a reason those countries are hotbeds of server hosting because they are well beyond the jurisdiction of the US courts and they generally don't give a shit about intimidating letters either.
>>140720231
>Norway, Iceland, Belarus, Ukraine
>covered by the TPP
And in this post, anon reveals he doesn't know how to read a map.
>>140719902
>>140720091
desu playing $15/ month for a single content patch in an entire xpac sounds like similar levels of cuckoldry to nostfags
you've payed Blizz $285 since WoD was released for... lets think, Hellfire Citadel and to keep the servers running.
At this point you may as well be setting Metzen fuck your wife
>>140720530
i havn't payed money since the wow token was released
get cucked cucklords of cuckstalrius
>>140718548
>paladins
>healers
>shamans
>healers
read the fucking lore m8, vanilla was trash, yes, those were my mains back then and I hated it because it got old really fast being relegated to a cuck position in the raid when I wanted to do something else
>>140719292
I'll join when the prepatch hits
>>140719992
>best expansion
>introduced the cancer that is blood elves
>retconned cool ass Draenei into blue goat humans
lmao
>>140720106
Just because I wouldn't play on it 24/7 until the end of time doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to replay a game that I like.
>>140720386
>>LFR
>>LFD
unfortunate but it's impact is exaggerated, especially LFR
>>pandas
>>shitty theme
MoP had excellent thematics what are you talking about? Beautiful zones, music, and a better story than just about every other expansion.
>>faceroll content
Oh look another shitter who doesn't actually play and bases all his knowledge off Preach videos. Muh two months to clear and muh literally broken encounters.
>>no depth
Yeah classes had so much depth in TBC you could just make a macro for your whole rotation lmao
>>140720814
The fucking game cover literally labelled Paladins and Shamans as support classes.
>>140720530
>$15/month
I dunno who's the more gullible shithead, the long-term player that's actually paying this much or the tokenfags like >>140720640
>>140720907
that was 2004 m8
>>140720891
>off Preach videos
But Preach is clearly a Blizzdrone nowadays. I gotta give it to you that his video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rd0-zVIBVo was on point though.
>>140720269
I am disgusted with WoD, as should any player that previously played in past expansions. But Legion looks alright. If I hand my hands on it you could bet your ass there are some changes I'd make (including the combining of PvE and PvP trees). Some classes are very far from the mark (Beast mastery, Brewmaster (even post change, it's better now but still a direct downgrade from what is what, Mistweaver PvE) but a lot of classes they've nailed and made genuinely better to play in every aspect (Holy priest, elemental).
Of course I can't tell you how I'll feel about class halls, I'm not testing those with a 39 and one half foot pole.
Any else here filled with joy that blizzard didn't announce or hint at legacy servers with their discussions with nost admins? lmfaoalso cata is best expansion
>>140720951
I don't even have to bring up the books
Look at WC2. Was turalyon a cuck that just stood on the side buffing and healing? No, he bashed orc scum back to outland
WC3 even, paladins had an occasional heal and support skills, they still bashed
>>140721296
I am always amused by the suffering of nostalgiafagsMoP was best expansion, faggot
>>140721423
I wasn't a huge fan of mop but it was definitely better than vanilla~
>running around as brewmaster
>some random low level mob smacks me
>get 10 second dot from stagger
>can't clear the dot because in legion you can only clear 50% of you stagger
>have to stand there and wait 10 seconds before you can mount or interact with the quest object
>every single time anything touches you
Thanks blizzard
>wow is dying
>vanilla is the best expansion
>the game has only gotten worse
>naxx 40 was the hardest raid
>>140721517
Few things arent better than vanilla though
>>140721296
>also cata is best expansion
the only way anyone can possible think that in their right mind is if they started in that expansion
so fuck off
>>140721628
It's true though.
>>140720530
>/wowg/
>wife
the only thing metzen will be cucking is anons dildo collection
there are infinite amount of universes where I am here, talking to you, another universe I didnt even discover this board, the other one I stopped posting back in MoP, this current reality I am here, one reality I met with people from here, and discord never got made, Pozy never posted and Khubbo didnt do 3D, the other reality I was streaming the game, you, me, us are infinite... reality is just our imagination its un comprehencible
Did blizzard mismanage warriors in WoW?
They're all over the place with abilities and they have no lore
why not have a blademaster class that has unique and differentiated abilities like bladestorm, windwalking and illusions and shit? It would be cool as fuck to see a melee dps use cloth or a new type of light armor (not leather, fuck leather)
The only warrior in wc3 was cairne bloodhoof, and even he had differentiated abilies that made him unique
Warriors are just so generic.
It would be cool as fuck if blizzard started making faction exclusive classes again so that everything don't play so samey all the time.
Giving horde paladins was a huge mistake
>>140721205
The specs they've improved in Legion are outnumbered significantly by the ones they fucked up. If anything, they're making improvements by accident while making everything worse. Gameplay wise Blood DK's and Brewmasters are a travesty, Outlaw is garbage, Windwalker is garbage, both Warrior DPS specs are garbage, all 3 mage specs are garbage, and Destro Locks are unplayable.
The only non-healer specs they've managed to improve are
>Elemental
>DK Frost
>Maybe Feral druids?
>>140721893
>there are infinite amount of universes
there aren't, the universe is finite and will die one day
>>140721893
huns i love you so much im so happy ur my gf!!! :D <3
>>140721663
Cata revamped the absolute shit vanilla leveling zones to actually be fun
Cata had great dungeons, with even better dungeons added in later patches
Cata added the best zone in the history of the game, Vashj'ir (inb4 'but me no can understand a third axis of movement! vashj'ir is bad!)
>>140722140
3-axis movement is bad when WoW has abilities that target the ground retard
>>140721946
warriors are supposed to be just generic warriors
>>140722242
the problem is that their abilities aren't
>>140722232
you're getting trolled hard stop replying to it
>>140722232
Yeah man, all those rotational ground targeted abilities you use all the time while leveling like... uh... the freeze from frost elementals maybe? Zone ruined, cant use one ability.
>>140721205
memes aside, what even would there be to test around the order hall? I doubt there's any part of it that needs debugging since it's all fairly simple shit that they're not doing anything fantastically new with
