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U-boat edition

>Official Site:
http://warthunder.com/

NOTE: You get given a premium aircraft for your first victory in game!
Need a faster download? Switch Language in Launcher.

>Wiki with Release Trees and General Tactics:
http://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php

>Fan created skins, missions, locations, fictions etc...
http://live.warthunder.com/

>Ammunition Types
http://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=Category:Ammunition
https://www.fanfiction.net/search.php?keywords=%22war+thunder%22&ready=1&type=story

>All the Air RB/SB maneuvers you would want to know + Engine thingamabobs:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=200974026

>Every Airplane Instrument Panel translated
http://www.mediafire.com/view/q4nybrogygdchdb/ND's_aircraft_reference_guide.pdf

>Youtube Channel with Tutorials and Gameplay Videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/galahadgawain/playlists

>Steam community:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/warthundervg

>vg chatroom:
Type " /join vg " into chatbox.
If prompted for a password, use "memes".

>Teamspeak
ts.gonnahate.org

>Joystick Comparisons:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/multimedia/display/joystick-roundup_8.html

>Chart displaying weapon effectiveness against ground units
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H1_cSnYKSKbU6Giql2bMDdFoXefeq6ENWuvjQbtquMs
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Is the thread really this ded?
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>Normandy
>gangraped by Spitfires: the event
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>>140599838
as soon as any discussion is made, wehrboos come in and complain we're just whining

it's like cockwork
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>>140600289
t. eeb
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>>140600289
>>140600670

>wehraboo
>teeb

please stop
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>Oh, nice! A Burger vs Nazi event!
>Amerilard teams are 100% Amerispits and Spits

Truly a high-quality event with historical unit matchups
Obviously the P-51, P-47 and P-38 were merely creations of American propagandists))
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Has anything changed for the better since last year?
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>>140601807
take a wild fucking guess
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>>140601807
>Has anything changed

"no"
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>log on yesterday
>get my medium chest
>big one tomorrow
>log on today
>now the big chest has moved to monday

What the fuck?
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>>140601807
Yea. We have some pretty good new vehicles.
Also some new maps and bounce mechanics.
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>>140602453
Anything for planes though?
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>>140602481
Nazis get 3 variants of a plane that had only 35 produced, and it's shit anyway.

2 versions of the P-61 added, it's shit

Sunderland and H8K3 added, they're _fun
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>go arcade with 3 Antons
>30 kills in 6 games
>log out
why even bother with the RB events, they're all shit
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What's the difference between the ki-61-l hei and the ki-61-l tei? Can't decide which to get. Then again they have quite long turn speeds. should I even bother with them at all?
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>>140602727
Both have nerfed performance for no good reason
Hei has MG151s in the wings, Tei has Ho-5s in the nose, so obviously one is easier to use at longer ranges than the other.
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>>140602714
>Not also going for the KV-2 1940
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>>140602481
Brits are no longer "that nation nobody really plays or has a problem with", they're the latest meme. If you're not flying Spitfires and talking like SquireFlyer in the chat you're a fucking nerd.
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>>140602925
I don't even play tanks
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTFec_mrD-c
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>>140602925
I would've done it if it was the nazi KV-2
why would I want another slav KV-2
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>>140602930
>People talking like Squire in the chat


That shit makes me want to kill myself
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>>140602727
They're overtiered, but can be fun if flown right.
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>>140603067

I fucking hate this. Literally nobody says "mmm, marvellous tea today."

It's so fucking painfully autistic and it makes me want to kill myself.,
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>>140603067
>a cup of Earl Grey please

I remember someone saying that in the BoB event, I think I was in that fucking match
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>When you drank too much vodka and forget your designing a plane, not a tank

Yes, those are two 75mm cannons for maximum liberation )))))
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>>140603892
Literally r/warthunder: the post
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>>140603892

Now I see what the Russians were doing with those Rolls Royce Wellands we gave them.
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>>140604025

I'll just join the rest of the usual shitpost crew then.
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>actual generosity

wew
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>>140605169
lucky bastard
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>>140602916
>>140603176
So which of the Jap fighters should I fly then? I mostly wanna do dogfighting and I heard the japs are quite good at that. currently I'm flying a ki-43-III otsu and I'm working towards the a7m2, but I have no idea what I should put in the other 3 plane slots.
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>>140605551
Whatever Zero you currently have. Ki-61 otsu is good too, but much more of an energy fighter than other japanese planes. It's pretty much a japanese 109 or 202.
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>>140605551
pretty sure ki-43 is king of low speed sustains
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>>140603892
I wonder what the muzzle velocity and rounds are based off of. The F-34? ZiS-5?
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>its a t54s steamroll my team episode
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>log in
>new battle report
>someone played this game on my account
>my tier 1 german layout has been switched to ho229/me163/109k4/empty/empty
>nothing in replays

What the FUCK
CONDUCTOR
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>team of P-80s and F-84s
>we have ONE 8.0 plane and it's a fucking B-57
>at least 4 Komets or rocket 262s in the enemy team guaranteed
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>>140608162
Taturo not again
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hey guys
Is the boomerang good?
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>>140608442
>jets
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>>140608442
>Arado zoom climbs up to me from 2.5 km below after turnfighting an F-84
>snipesw me through the clouds

Well okay, fuck you too
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>>140608576
It's okay, it's enjoyable to fly but the ammo limits it somewhat.

It's also an absolute meme for putting out fires for some reason (or at least it used to be).
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>fly out the A6M2-N
>mfw 4k rp for 2 kills
>mfw I have a talisman on this thing
I only get tailsmans on good jap planes.
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G-6 is bad guys
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>>140610173
Weebs out
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>>140610354

Teebs in!
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>>140610173
Was this in the event?
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>>140610173
>Any plane in Ground RB
>Hard to use
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TODAY ON HITLERS SECRET WEAPONS.
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>>140610682
You are not a bright one , are you anon?
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>>140610790
What does Hitler have to do with a Churchill AVRE?
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>>140610790
go on
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So whos dueling das grouch?
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>>140610921
NEWFAG GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>140611278
Me on Mechwarrior Online
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>>140610921

TODAY ON HITLERS SECRET WEAPONS

>cgi tiger ramps over a hill, shooting a T34 in half whilst airbourne.

WE'LL BE STUDYING THE DEADLY CHURCHILL AVRE

>animation of a couple of P-51s strafing the Yamato, causing it's magazine to blow up

KNOWN THROUGHOUT EUROPE AS "STALINS ORGANGRINDER"

>stock footage of Soviet Rocket artillery firing

THE CHURCHILL AVRE CRUSHED ANYTHING IN ITS PATH.

>cuts to a re-enactment of a tank crew reloading shouting "LOAD HIGH EXPLOSIVE" before frontally penning a Tiger II

THE CREW OF THE TANK SAID IT WAS THE BEST THING THEY'D EVER DRIVEN

>cut to a US servicemen saying "when you were inside it you felt safe at first, compared to the infantry on the ground beside you."
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>>140608827
>that absolutely halal feel when zoomclimbing up to a P-80 who's running away at the speed of 'fuck you'
>stalling so badly that the plane's nose is dropping like a rock uncontrollably when the shot is fired
>it hits him at 1.65km out

Non-mouse players will never know this feel.
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Wow...

WHAT A FUCKING DORK!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJJPHLQRcg4
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This is one of the good tanks, right?
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>>140611760

>all that fucking autism
>that sound of his shitty little airsoft gun whirring about spitting out bbs

Jesus fuck how the mighty have fallen.
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>>140612074
so long as you don't get uptiered, yes
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Does anybody fly the P-47D-28 regularly in RB? I know it's undertiered, but is it fun
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>>140612240
>ABLOOOOOOOOO
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>>140612074

It fights IS-2s every game so no
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>find grouch in the 202
>speed after him
>duel him 1v1 and get hon his tail a few times
>he gets some shots on my wing
>german 109 comes in to help him
>he berates the player in all chat and tells him to fuck off
>mfw the other player goes to tk grouch
>grouch tks him first and then comes back after me

I killed him. But holy shit.
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>>140612567
>a-am I fitting in now, guys? this is the naziboo you were talking about right, guys?
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>tfw Bong premium Tiger 131 never
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>>140613176
>perfect angle for hull
>cant depress gun because ))))))))
))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>140613176

I saw you in a match the other day. I thought to myself "who the fuck put a british army decal on his fucking tiger."

IDIOT.
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>>140613530
I literally just got the tank
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>>140613598

well then it was some other IDIOT that had done the same thing
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>>140613472
important part:
>problem is known since the the beginning
>still didn't fixed it
no bias )))))))))))))))))))))
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>>140613530
>historical accuracy
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Just got the game

Anything I should know?
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>>140614164
run
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>>140614164
Don't start it.
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>>140614164
uninstall now and read books instead it will be much better for you honest to god friend
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>>140612959
Kill yourself, nazi
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>headtracking info removed
Fucking teamspeak aspies. If you're going to put your retarded shithole voip in the OP at least don't remove useful info.
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>>140613835
is no problem, is feature ! ))))))
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>>140614164

Run, there's still a chance for you.

Please, it seems good at first. By the time you realise... it's too late.

Please, leave this place and never look back. It's already too late for us.
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>>140613472
>>140613835
>>140614616

It's because the smoke launcher is in the way of the barrel.

seriously
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Why the fuck is this thing even allowed?

>airspawn
>bullshit death star turbolaser cannons
>outruns everything
>outdives everything
>outclimbs everything
>outturns everything
>did I mention it gets bombs LOL?

Its overpowered as shit, simple as that. If that isn't enough:

>never even existed
>its cannons never even existed either
>looks fucking stupid
>meme plane
>weeaboos actually want the jet version that also never existed added

It should either be 9.0 or be removed.
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>>140614975
>look ma I posted it again
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spading the Tempest V is suffering
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>>140615098

>posted from my jap meme-plane with quad death star turbolaser
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>>140614164
never go over babbi tiers
world beyond them is pure shit
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>>140615203
>>140615218
>being bad
>not being good
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>>140615203

Are you serious? That thing is a dream to fly. Strong as a tank, wonderful armament, fast as fuck.

Only slight issue is getting it to altitude.
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>>140615203
not really
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>>140614975
>he maneuvered himself into a position where he was shot down by a J7W1
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>>140614975
> A jet engine–powered version was considered, but never even reached the drawing board.

Confirmed for next patch)))
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>>140615310
Sure it's fast, but if you try to do anything other than going fast it's a brick

if someone gets behind me there's nothng I can do other than hope they get bored of chasing me on the deck and disengageand yes I know the solution to that is "don't let people get behind you"
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>>140613948
btw Premium American T-34 when?
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>>140615310
>Strong as a tank
>one hit anywhere on the plane and your cooling system is fried
>engine meltdown in 3, 2, 1
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>>140615610

Literally outrun them.

Get fucking good.

Holy shit the Tempest is such a wonderful plane, Mk II can be a bit suffering because of it's tier but plz dude don't try telling me it's anything but a wonderful plane.
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>>140615823
>Mk II can be a bit suffering
whew
literally my favorite plane, climbs like a fucking rocketship, and is so fast it can reach escape velocity in a gentle dive
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>>140616048

Yea it's a fucking great plane but it can get matched against Me 262's and Hortons which shit all over it.
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>>140614975
>>140615098
>>140615218
>>140615272
>>140615331
>>140615352

ITT disgusting anime nerds defend a stupid looking meme plane that looks like it came out of some kind of anime.
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>>140612146
>implying he was mighty in the first place
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How to get good in the 109 G-6? I do well in the F-4 and E series, but I just can't seem to do anything in the G-6
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>carried my retarded fucking team to victory
>bravo team, grrreat work!
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I just noticed I have a tank called M2A4 (1st Arm. Div.), which is a premium

I'm pretty sure I've never bought a premium tank and if I did it certainly wouldn't be a tier 1 one. Was there an event or some shit where I could have won a premo tank without knowing?
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>>140616309

Well, he did make some neat videos.
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>>140612146
>the mighty

His videos were good, but everyone pretty much knew he was an autistic teenager outside of youtube
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>in tortoise
>t34100 tried to get past me
>collide with his side
>t34 tracked

fucking lucky
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tfw having fun in arcade tonks
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>>140616279
I gotta say I like this kind of shitposting. Are you the same anon that did the adolph galland shitposting too?
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>>140616720
Literally how?
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>>140616741
>adolph galland shitposting

all me to be honest
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guys why am i still playing this game casually? this game has shit balance and shit matchmaking, so why? is it because i'm a masochist or cuck? is it because i want to get fucked by battle ratings etc? why has gaijin fucked this game up so hard? when's world conquest or ships?
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There's a certain beauty to this game that makes one yearn for peace, even when you live in a nation already at peace. It's probably just the faggot in me, but I can't help but think "Man, if only these beautiful birds only had to fly for shows and not to kill."
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>>140616902
>weeb picture
You're already a cuck and it's not because you play War Thunder.
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>>140617032
>>>/r/warthunder
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>>140617032
ok Second Lieutenant Kei "Edge" Nagase
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>>140613936

>Launching a rocket-assisted fighter plane from a trailer

It's amazing how both the Soviets and the Americans had the same idea early in the Cold War.
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>>140616762
dunno its just simple and comfy
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>good at flying
>can't shoot for shit

Anybody else have this problem? I always find myself in good positions with perfect firing solutions, but I can't put my bullets on the fucking enemy plane.
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>>140617359

>Please, I fucking wish I had Edge's body
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>>140617032
A R K B I R D
R
K
B
I
R
D
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>>140617032
>There's a certain beauty to this game

"no"
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>>140617483
That's what estrogen is for!
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>>140617032

Literally has the opposite effect on me, makes me want to fight for something I believe in. Maybe it's something to do with being a male in my early 20's but I wanna fight for something.
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>>140617032
>>140617821

>getting sentimental over a free to play slavic airplane game

epic
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>>140617962

It's not the game, it's anything related to war makes me want to fight for something.
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>>140618087
>war
>some kind of noble cause

Soldiers fight for the interests of their government, who don't give a shit about sending millions of young men to certain death.
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>>140618220

Which is why I haven't signed up to the army. I fully know this. Stop trying to seem like some know it all fucking sage, you're spouting what I've heard a thousand times over and it makes you sound like a pompous, smug cunt.
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>>140618220
Don't you have an anti-Trump rally to attend, you fucking tipper?
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>>140618220
>>140618523
>>140618536

fucking rekt dude kek.
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>>140618523
also, stop drinking alcohol
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>>140618523
>I fully know this.
>still wants to fight for le noble cause

war is war
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>>140618536
Hey anon if you want to go and get yourself killed to fulfill the political agenda of some rich dude then by all means do it.
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>>140618806
thank you plato. hit me up with more of that philosophy shit, le enlightened man
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>mfw playing American ground forces

Why are all these tanks so fucking awful
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>>140618806

>Not once in History has a nation or peoples ever fought for what they believe is right
>I'm now going to make you seem stupid for thinking otherwise by spouting some pseudo-philosophical bullshit phrase. "war is war." heh, that'll show him how enlightened I am.
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>>140619056
>>140618924

I was merely pretending to be retarded
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>>140618806
I joined the Navy just to brag about the fact that I'm in the Navy and attention whore with Navy things, I don't give a shit about having a noble cause.
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>>140618929
>being bad
>not gid gud
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>>140616389
You get a free tank for your first victory, which one you get depends on what nation you chose and what game mode you played.

So I'm guessing the first ever game you won was in clap tanks, which is why you got the premium M2A4
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Really want a T72 lads
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>>140620373
PRetty sure I played kraut and slav tanks way before they introduced burger ones

Then again I don't think I've played more than 20 tank matches since CBT so who knows
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>Pick a bomber and enter an EC
>fly around for 30min bombing a few bases and letting your gunners deal with enemies on one screen while you browse 4chin on the other
>Leave and collect 17k RP

Is there a comfier way to grind than this?
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>some brazilian fuck starts spamming the chat with BRspeak
>it's obvious no one else in the match speaks BR
>he keeps talking
>even after I kill him (he was a japanese B-17)
>stays there talking to no one until the end of the match
What the fuck is wrong with these people?
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>>140621368

Not until I get my A3, commie
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is RB EC gone forever?
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>>140621708
yeah no, burgers would need base model m1
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>teamkills
>only drives his fair and balanced rolling warcrime
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>>140621679
>What the fuck is wrong with these people?
>people
That's where you went wrong, anon
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>>140621882

Naw

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/285316-odd-equilibrium-m60a3-and-t-72-ural/
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>>140621882

Even the 105mm Abrams is a world ahead of the T-72.

A better match for the Abrams in a T-80
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>>140621827
Probably, just like historical SB EC.
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>>140622389
Is there a point in EC when world war mode is soonTM?
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whats currently the best setup for gold wager?
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>>140622345
Yeah but having the 105mm Abrams in the game is shit. Its like buying a new porsche carrera with none of the extras, whats the point.

the A3 and the early T72 seems fine.
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>>140621921
>send from my bouncycastle playset
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>Back on the Kursk map
>inna Panther D, take a shot that require me to repair
>Some BR rolls up in a Tiger and body blocks shots for me
>Him and I roll through the village blasting commies
>He doesn't take any of my kills, I don't take his
>Eventually I eat a shell from a hidden SU-122 and die
>He shifts into overdrive, rams it and nukes it from the inside out
Funny, they're generally the worse teammates, but the best instance of coordination is with a BR.
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RB EC fucking when?
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i love this game
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>>140624523
average yak
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>>140612074
DIAMOND FORMATION
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>>140622956
>M60A3 has fire rate, laser rangefinder, ballistic computer, crosswind sensor and infra-red sight
>T-72 has armor, powerful gun and speed
That would be quite interesting.
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>>140624979
None of those things would be rendered in war thunder , and none of the disadvantages of the T72 would be rendered in War Thunder
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Get disconnected from server due to Gaijin fuckup.
Have to repair plane full cost and crew will be on a mission for 6 min.
ebin gaijin
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>spot IL-28 taking off
>hover near airfield for a while because fuck going into that insta-death zone
>dive on his slow-ass at three million kilometres per hour
>vaporize hm with one single burst
>calls me F2HIV
>oblivious to the irony that he's calling me hiv while he's flying one of the most cancerous planes in the entire game

Bombershitter salt is the best salt in the world.
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>>140624648
>76
>lower front plate revealed like a free kill
>shooting at tiger turret
this is why tanks with decent frontal armor are op.
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>>140625384
They would have to simulate FCS for M60A3.
T-72 is easy, because it's coincidence rangefinder already is in game.

For M60 you would need new keybind for laser. Point at object, lase it, computer calculates distance to target and elevates your gun (back then FCS would not follow target). From player's point of view, it would be point at bad guy, press "lase" button and second later lay near perfect shot.

Also we have night battles now, so IR would come handy
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>>140626517
>IR would come handy
>not just cranking up the gamma
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>>140625770
On a semi-related note, I fear the day the La-15 gets its terminal speed fixed
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>>140626517
>For M60 you would need new keybind for laser. Point at object, lase it, computer calculates distance to target and elevates your gun (back then FCS would not follow target). From player's point of view, it would be point at bad guy, press "lase" button and second later lay near perfect shot.

You say that like it would be hard for Gajub to implement , the point is , they simply wont because of --------balance--------

Panther II had IR or NVG not sure which , it had them since GF was introduced and they are completly useless outside of denying you gun depression and making your sillhoute even higher
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this game is dying... it's so sad... it could be so good but these cunts keep fucking it up
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>>140626796
>beign so tryhard, you make your game look like shit, just to get some kills
but yeah feel free to play as you like
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>>140626857

His sacrifice to Sanic will not be forgotten.
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>>140626857
when that happens it will probably get uptiered to 9.0 where it will become obsolete
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>Normandy
>Cromwell I
>Churchill III
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>>140628108

What are you whining about now you pathetic Naziboo
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>>140626892
>the reason why Gaijin isn't doing <x> is because it would help non-russian tanks, not because they are lazy
are all naziboos this delusional?
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>>140629015
well, remind me for what reason Tier V Soviet tanks have late-60's ammunition?
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>>140629015
>tiger's smoke launchers still block the gun
>no problem, no bias
))))))))))))))))
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>>140629312
For the same reason the Leopard is in the game? The game timeframe goes until the late 60s, why would they not get all of the upgrades they were given?

It would be pretty cool if tanks only got access to certain ammo when uptiered though. So the IS-2 44 wouldn't be able to use its post war shell unless facing post war tanks.
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>>140629312
The same reason tier 4 is full of paper and post war shit )))))
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>>140629856
or if choice of ammunition could affect BR of vehicle. Basically, you can use those APDS and HEAT in your T-54, but don't expect to meet anything weaker than M60A1 and Cent Mk.10 if you do.
Basically you use mid-60's ammunition, you face mid-60's tanks.
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>>140627007
so long as you don't go nuts it doesn't make the game look much worse
if you just crank up the reds or greens it looks like IR vision )))
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>>140630439
I'd really like that, it would fix quite a few problems.

Another thing - Is the frontal armor on the T-54 actually 12 cm thick, or is it just treated in such a way so that it's equivalent to 12 cm of RHA? And also, would that mean it would react to very large diameter shells differently?
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>>140630665
T-54 Mod.47 had a 120mm thick glacis which was reduced to 100mm in later models for better weight distribution.
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>>140631251
Right, what I'm asking is if the mod 47 actually had 12 cm of armor in the front, or if it was composite or something and just 12 cm equivalent.
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>>140631480
There is no tank in the game with composite armor.
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>>140631641
So the T-54s all actually have 10 or 12 cm of frontal armor? That's really impressive. How did they manage having all that armor while also being relatively light (only ~35 tons)?
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why does it say 2 hours on my warbonds? will i lose them?
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>>140626892
Reminder the panther 2 doesn't even exist.
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>>140631853
120mm plate was only intitial production. You can consider it test batch. Change of armor is small thing, supposely there has been nearly 1500 changes to project, before tank was accepted to serial production.

As for question. Serial production T-54 had 100mm thick RHA plate angled at 60 degree from vertical, so in straight line that's 200mm of armor. Strong angle also strongly reduced effectivness of HVAP ammunition aganist it.
Steel was softer than used in T-34 (290 BHN vs 350 BHN), to make it less prone to catastrophic failure of plate after taking multiple hits.
As proved by Yugo tests, it was unpenetrable to any 50's tanks and anti-tank guns except if they were using HEAT.

Turret was much weaker. Middle of turret was much less sloped, not to mention it was casted steel. 88mm Pak-43 and 90mm M3 could pierce it at ranges from 350 to 750m depending on AP round used.
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>>140633998
it does
the 88-equipped one in the game doesn't
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>>140634218
No. They built a single chassis. It's basically a block of metal.
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>>140633998
It does , the only difference is the Turret , the Schmall turm was also built , it just wasn't fitted with a 88mm
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>>140601807
Brit tanks, much more variety more maps, new vehicles of all sorts, new graphics engine, new weather. None of it will help you learn to play, so if you were a shitter before you'll still be a shitter.
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>>140634325
a chassis is more than just a block of metal
I don't want to defend its place in the game, I just wanted to point out that it's not all fantasy
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>>140634325
Alright
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>>140634325
>It's basically a block of metal.
Yeah, like every tank.
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>everyone too scared to 1v1 grouchy
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How do I 109 K-4? This has to be the worst sotck syndrome of any plane I've flown

I skipped the G-6 and G-10 and haven't even researched the G-14, should I bother with them?
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>>140634640
It didn't have a turret. They made one and put one on.
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>>140634640
>Panther II on display at Patton Cavalry and Armor Museum, Fort Knox. The turret on display was not originally fitted to this hull and was installed later.

Did the 88mm turret as is in game ever exist on a Panther II?
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>>140634758
No it was proposed , but not far from reality
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>>140631853
>>140634045
as for "how" they simply made it small. Small tank - smaller plates.
Nothing's free though. Small tank has little space inside. It means it's harder for crew to move around (especially for loader who HAS to move around), and they get worn out faster. This affects fire rate. T-55 crew was expeced to shot 5-6 shots in minute, Patton's loader would not qualify if he could not load 10 rounds in a minute. Low placed gun kicks plenty of dust when firing, making it hard for crew to observe target and results of fire. There's little space for ammunition: doesn't sound like issue in War Thunder, but in reality 2/3rd of your racks would be occupied by HE for infantry support. Finally, low volume inside means there's higher chance for crew to be knocked out by overpressure when penetrated by HEAT shell of RPG.
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>>140634880
can you stop putting spaces before your commas
I get that some grammatical stuff can be difficult, but come one
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>>140635138
This all makes sense I suppose. It does blow my mind that the T-54/55 only have like 30 shells inside the tank - Even in war thunder with the maps the size of postage stamps it's really easy to run out of ammo.

Anyway, here's a meme video for your explanation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AqqmjGzeTQ
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>>140635159
To clarify

Im not defending the implementation of the Panther II in the game ,it's simply the the proposed design , a Panteher F with the Panther II engine settings would have been fine it it's place as well.

On the commas , my german teachers made me to this throughout all of my school years i simply can't stop.
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>>140635159
>one instead of on
that one's on me
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>>140634640
>panther ii at Patton museum at fort Knox

Well that settles it. I only live about a half hour drive from there. Going next Friday.
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>>140635397
Hope that is a replica
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>>140635361

So that's what the USAF gets up to.

>>140635598

It Is...
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This game needs more floatplanes.
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>>140635695
they just removed Kingfisher from tech tree :(
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>>140635884
Wait, what?
Why would they do that?
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>>140635695
>>140635884
A6M2-N is next to go, mark my words
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>>140635884
proofs?
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>>140636091
They better don't. I'm having so much fun in that thing right now.
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>>140636330
So long as you have it now, you'll get to keep it
same thing with the kingfishers, and all planes that previously have been "removed"
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>>140636089
>>140636103
https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/310991-os2u-kingfisher-removed/
You can no longer research it, if you have it researched, but did not purchase it yet, it's also gone.
If you have it purchased though, you can still use it.
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>>140636386
>>140636696
Fuck, I only have the first Kingfisher.
Why do they do this?
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It's shit.
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>>140636696
cool, I own two more rare planes
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>>140636802
It's a fake link senpai
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>>140633236
I join question. Will the vaporize?
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>>140636386

Like those fuckton of Sm79s before the squish
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>>140636943
With War Thunder forums you never know. They love deleting threads that may put Gaijin in a bad light even slightly.
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>>140637153
I have no idea what you mean by this but yeah I'm pretty sure warbonds reset in about an hour. Use them while you can.
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>>140633236
>>140637153
The April shop should stay open for a few days for you to spend what you earned.
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>>140634325
It wasn´t even a Panther II lower hull. Just a modifed F one so its a 110% paper tank
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>>140636857
>sovok Hurricane
cool, already got the other ones for free
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>>140637210
>tfw I missed one of the sparvieros
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10094853
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>>140637710

>jets
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>>140637710
>jets
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>>140637710
>jets
Literally worst part of the game, tied with GF
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10094906
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>>140637782
>>140637782
>>140637956
For you
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>>140638363
I wish you could rank them. I think the A-4 is the best, followed by the A-5/U-2, followed by the A-5, but all 3 of those are pretty close together as far as how good they are.
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>7.0 tanks
>biggest fucking fear is german SPAAG

this meme needs to end.
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>>140638363
A1 is a pretty fun low tier clubber
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>>140639019
ZSU-57 is russian m8

Also
>being so bad that a Pz4 with > 100mm pen is dangerous to you
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>500% lions booster
>"I'll just play it nice and safe"
>"take AB, pick up bomber and farm ground kills"
>get Domination
>"n- not like I needed those Lions anyway..."
Sometimes I could swear there's algorithm out there with sole purpose of fucking you over when using boosters
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10095041
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>>140639434

Didn't try it since they fixed the overheating problems.

Does it club harder than the 109 E-4 now?
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>>140639721
>activate 500% RP booster
>fly out the B-6/R3
>Norway
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>>140639860
It's basically a P47 with better weapons 4 centered Mg17s are actualy quite good aswell , it can still overheat easily you use WEP
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>>140636802
Some kind of problem with the model, they removed it to fix it, and they're bringing it back.

Don't know what the issue was. Or why they needed to remove it to fix it.
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>>140640157
>send from my flying warcrime
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>>140640506
DO IT AGAIN
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>Tfw Nazis got blown the fuck out by Jews, who continued to assassinate them after the war

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Brigade#World_War_II
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How do you justify Dresden?
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>>140640710

>Nazi's got blown the fuck out by the jews

I'm sorry what
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>>140640786
how do you justify fighting a war to exterminate a large portion of eastern europe as well as an entire race, naziboo?
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Post pictures of Nazis getting blown the fuck out
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