Lucky Clover edition
Previous Boiling Point DW heist: >>139252875
>Skill Tree Beta Stream on April 22nd:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/8/368542585862901723/
>Skill Tree Beta Calculator
http://payday.drakendomain.net/
>Upcoming Payday 2 Tournaments:
http://www.overkillsoftware.com/payday2-tournament/
>Impending Skill Tree Revamps:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/10/
>Extremely In-Depth Guide on the Mechanics of PAYDAY 2 (think Frank found a new maintainer)
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=267214370
>Skill/Weapon Stat Calculator:
http://www.pd2skills.com/
>Skilltree Guide (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/nUXjB3J.png
>Perk Deck Guide:
http://i.imgur.com/E6x18Bt.png
>Stat Ranking and Breakpoints (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/TY14uav.png
>Weapon/Armor/Damage/Pickup Spreadsheets (not up to date):
http://pastebin.com/dSyuTzdt
>Big Oil Engine Calculator:
http://payday2skills.ru/bigoil.html
>PAYDAY Wiki:
http://payday.wikia.com/wiki/PAYDAY_2
>Latest Updates Here:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620
>Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/itfeelslikesomethingsintheair
>Mods and Lua:
http://pastebin.com/E3m0uKKn
>Weapon skin previews
http://pd2stash.com/
>Daily Dose
http://fuldans.se/?v=bawawkvbhb
First for RIP Wolf.
Has anyone made one of those Japanese things with the pain sounds for Clover?
She has all the lines for it, like 12 versions of, "Fuck me." and one of her "ONE." lines is, "It's in"
Ryona or something,
Clover a shit
DonAcDum is the best track.
GOONMOD is always the answer
>>139810335
>implying blt mods aren't the answer to everything in this game
7th for the Beagle being the best pistol of the game.
>>139810597
It's not the answer for Transporter Aced.
OVK devs can't figure out how to implement carrying two bags at once so they're getting rid of it.
>>139808808
This is my favourite Clover image.
>>139811898
>they needed three years to finally get a fix for the (!) that plagued your inventory,
10/10 company.
>>139814690
I think they didn't realize it bothered people for that long. We had that OVK employee in here a week or two before the patch hit and they said it would be brought up to the team.
>see the PD2 hardcore henry trailer,
Hoxton's lines where he insults Jimmy when ?
>>139809689
>Not "And now we run"
Plebeian tastes.
>join Hoxout
>host is some Brazilian faggot who tries to instruct another guy to put his ammo bag on the car
>whatever
>the game starts, we roll through cops a few stops
>the guy drops the ammo on the road, missing the car
>host restarts because of it
>>139814690
>3 years
>They were talking about Safehouse Customization before the open beta started.
>Play a build with Doctor Bags and Inspire
>Everyone has Doctor Bags, no one has Shaped Charges, a Saw, or Ammo
>Play a TechForcer Tim the Toolman build with Saws, Shaped Charges, and Ammo
>No one has Doctor Bags or Inspire
WHY DOES THIS ALWAYS HAPPEN
>>139818065
Holy shit, same here.
>Techforcer
>See guy in a suit
>oh good he should have inspire aced
>nope he's a fugforcer
>>139818065
>Have C4
>Have Inspire
>All right
Where are the fucking Wolf lewds, lads?
Does using better bots get you listed as a bad goy?
>>139821085
No.
>>139821085
>Using any mods besides Hoxhud.
Not Overkill approved. Bad goy ;)
>>139821964
Cool, thanks
>>139821994
I never bothered with it, I never check the hud for anything besides the clock and to see of cops are freeing hostages. Some of the features seem nice, but I've gotten along this far without them. Also, I think you just memed me.
>>139818065
>no one has Shaped Charges, a Saw, or Ammo
But you have 4 Inspirefags so it matters not.I join pub Transports just to carry them while they drill and lockpick.
Dead
>>139713861
>>139715340
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!
Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- I Am The One Who Knocks (halloween_1)
- Painting Yourself Into A Corner (pink_panther)
Keep those helmets flying! ;)
stop die
Why are people so butthurt about blowing up the bus even if there's no money in it?
>>139833891
Annoying ass blinding flash.
>>139833891
>literally FREE flashbangs
Okay, I copied the blt hook into the game folder. I added the dll and the mods folder. I added no mods. Now the game doesn't start.
>>139835952
Free?
>>139836018
I can't seem to find an answer on google.
Akimbo Judges when?
>>139841369
That is truly overkill.
Mainly because there is no enemy in the game that can survive two Judge shots to the face.
Dead
>>139845407
I believe this thread only has like 20 people. I wouldn't be surprised if it was less. I'm almost able to figure out who is who
>it's a "taser getting you from the tiniest angle imaginable and across the map" episode
>>139845667
You can't figure out who I am.
>>139809171
thank forklift wolf
what happened to us? it wasn't this "slow" 3-4 months ago
>>139846636
No good content releases.
Akimbo SMGs are neat, but there hasn't been any heists or anything.
>>139846372
Not from that, no personality is showing through.
>>139846878
>no good content releases
>disregards Jimmy safe and hardcore Henry trailer
>>139847234
>giving even half a shit about the safes
>>139809171
thanks zyzz bird of maximum gains
how do i improve this build
http://payday.drakendomain.net/?1=a&3=a&4=a&6=a&61=a&62=a&65=a&66=a
this is what i've been using pre-beta
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mSnLhJeGbCDa:eeDa:ghEgCda:fROKEGbCDa:ibcdea:pO8e8::w10-33-43-48-1-24-10-51-53-20-56:s49-2-7-10:a3
>>139845667
>yfw those peoples are all Muscle CTVfags using silent killer aced on their Val assault rifle.
The worst nightmare.
BULLDOZER MOVE ASIDE!!
>>139851338
I don't understand the hate on Silent Killer other than it being usually unnecessary. I get decent use out of it on my SMG build with Jacket's Piece.
Though I need to find another concealment mod for it so I can actually use 80's calling and still be in LB/SB range
new skill build.. r8noh8
http://payday.drakendomain.net/?1=a&3=a&4=a&6=a&10=a&12=a&18=b&24=b&31=a&32=a&35=a&36=a&51=b&53=a&54=a&66=a&69=a&71=a&72=a&84=b
maybe i'd drop the silent killer for low blow...
>>139853742
>jacket's piece
>that 4 seconds reload time,
this smg is a fucking mess, you would have a better time just using the Para or the Krinkov.
>>139855121
>Silent Loaded Medic
>>139853742
Probably autism from a silenced gun more powerful than its unsilenced counter part.
That and the emphasis some people put on break points(if it wont hit 80 don't bother pushing it past 40 or whatever) so if you're using a raven(which I believe is 60, off the top of my head) a 15% increase you have to spend skill points on won't help you kill something faster.
>>139855320
i changed to lb now
http://payday.drakendomain.net/?1=a&3=a&4=a&6=a&10=a&12=a&31=a&32=a&35=a&36=a&53=a&54=a&61=a&63=a&64=a&66=a
>'ELITE TASER, GET OUTTA THE WAY!'
>>139855486
u copied me
http://payday.drakendomain.net/?1=a&3=a&4=a&6=a&29=a&30=a&49=a&51=a&52=a&54=a&60=a&61=a&62=a&64=a&65=a&66=a
>>139855194
Four seconds is only if you're loading from a dry mag. It's probably the fastest SMG reload so long as you reload before you run out.
>>139855856
well your reading comprehension is shit..take a good look again...
>tasers look like old guy mega man
>cloakers look like that pretty cool guy splinter cell
>greens have similar color and proportions to Halo
I know saw a video game character that looks like a dozer years ago
>>139853742
You're wasting 30-48 into the Ghost tree to make the suppressors maybe viable when you could spend them on useful skills. Most people only spend a max of 8-10 points just to get the mobility skills. That's a large chunk of your available skill point pool that you could've used on something better.
It's akin to going that high up on the Fugitive tree for Counter-Strike Aced and not getting the more useful skills like SB and LB. You're not going to seriously run around a DW charging your melee anyway, investing points into it is a waste, same for not wasting your ammo firing at cops with suppressed weapons.
>>139856289
>a video game character that looks like a dozer
MW2's juggernauts, maybe?
DEAD
What are your build sets named and what do they do?
mine are currently:
>1: plzinspireme (master/fug)
>2: stealthisboring (stealth)
>3: shapecharging (experimental fugitive/tech build with bullet proof, shape charges and 75 armor + 15 dodge with ex-pres)
>4: gettingkrinkey (fug/forcer retrofit with basic akimbo for akimbo krinks)
>5: petclass (master/tech with joker and partner in crime aced)
I change up my builds every infamy, except my master/fug, which remains mostly the same
>His gun doesn't have 8 sights
Literally why
>>139863190
>Houdini (Techforcer grinder with C4, saw and expert driver asset)
>The manager (classic Fugmind grinder build)
>Nixon (boring stealth build with yakuza perk deck)
>Dog's day (Fugforcer with the judge benefiting from Overkill and Low blow basic)
>Safe Crime (sentry build with fully loaded aced and GL40+china lake)
>>139863581
Post gun in inventory, can't even recognize what this nightmare is based on.
>>139864454
Have a better pic you nerd
>>139864454
looks like the electric brass knuckles melee wep
>>139865223
>tfw no taser gun
non-lethals dlc when
>>139865583
Bean bag and that taser shotgun shell, T-Rep or something ammo for shotguns.
Rubber bullets for most guns.
Tranquilizer rifle.
Doughnut launcher
Pistol Taser
Pepper spray melee
Pocket cocaine throw that 'poisons' cops
>>139865583
What's the point?
Either you beat them up enough to kill them or they just get back up and shoot at you again.
Any mods that would change the flashbang effect to black screen or something? I don't want to get blind because I play a video game
>>139868087
Are you playing in the dark or something? Why would a white screen actually blind you?
>>139868491
Well not him but there's also the possibility or triggering seizures, white is not good for some people
>>139868610
Let's be honest here, if you're an epileptic trying to play video games where a fundamental part of the gameplay experience is getting hit by muzzle flashes 24/7, you're not going to make it to the flashbangs before you have a seizure.
>>139867413
killing them just isn't fun anymore, anon
>>139868491
>>139868998
>>139868087 Here. It's not that I'm epileptic or anything similar, it's just that I do mainly play in the dark and having to endure rapid fire flashbangs sometimes does get annoying as all hell.
>>139869257
Wear sunglasses.
>>139868087
http://forums.lastbullet.net/mydownloads.php?action=view_down&did=14802
So I've been bothered by Jimmy's face ever since I first saw it in the trailer and was wondering where the fuck I've seen him before.
Finally realised that he's the guy from District 9.
I wish I wasn't so bad at recognising faces. Must've taken me like two months to remember.
83th for Kiss the chief achievement
>>139871323
>1 hour
>Cheating
>>139871601
Just joined those people after they finished their fifth bag and were 18 minutes in.
>that feel when "I will give you my all 2016" never
>>139858068
not that guy but i think so...is there any other game that has you killing or using an EOD suit other MW2 during that time period?
Is the Saint Francis achievement actually going to lead to something or is Overkill just teasing us?
>>139876112
>Have the achievement
>Kill them and get em on bodybags to get in the bag and say a meme about "isn't working guys"
Fucking faggots ruining stealth because of that shit
>Get a ! in the map
>Fucking panic and everyone thinks that we are fucked so they act dumb when its was a damn civ
>>139876112
Sounds like a teaser for incoming John Wick heists or another devs game starring Wick.
Same thing for the 9 rings on Point break, they wouldn't do that kind of shit at random.
>use weapon mods on the chicano compact,
>it end up as visible as a bronco despite being the same size as a hand with other average stats.
Fucking piece of shit, totally worthless.
>>139880171
Get a Gruber instead.
>>139871323
>CREW DOWNED: 77
Who da handsomest heister in the game?
I'm gar for Dallas
How do I make this better?
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mSMHJEFBDa:eHIGDa:ghEgCda:fKMJeFGCa:ibcea:pR8::w36-6-5:s49-2-10:a1
>>139884832
Respec and pass me the mouse
>>139881882
>not jacket
>>139886397
>liking a murdering psychopath
wew the edge...
>>139886950
t. Russian mobster
>>139886950
I can change him
>>139886950
>Psychopath
>Not Sociopath
If you check the description for each kind of personality Jacket is none of these two since has shown love, care and mercy for others through out the events of Hotline Miami.
can anyone here link me some pdg-tan lewds/sfw?
all i see on paheal is SFM shit...
Post boiling point music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhCIIg6PmZk
>>139880906
>A whole 70 Cloakers pulled off bullshit kicks that heist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh_p20lHqtA&ab_channel=Cossack-HD
>>139891436
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFfybn_W8Ak
Bonus point for players wearing the Hotline miami masks.
>>139893371
meant for
>>139891436
There is a lack of high quality clover lewds.
>>139891436
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA3I6TGJNZc
>>139897775
>there are people in this world that prefer Hoxton over Houston
Where do you dudes get your payday fanart from? I can't find shit on Tumblr or anywhere.
So why do we call Birth of Sky, Birth of Meme again?
>>139900718
It's got quite a lot of quote lines. Fo shore.
Locke has some shitty voice acting.
>>139900879
Ah alright then, thanks.
>>139899856
Browsing through all sorts of Deviantart pages.
Once you get past the gross shit you start getting all sorts of results.
>>139900718AH KAK
>Skill overhaul update
>Thick Skin is being renamed to Thicc Skin
tell me about bain
>>139903237
He's a coke head that can't cook meth.
>>139901002
No, he just has a ratio of meme lines ten times superior to the other contractors. Even Vlad is less of a memelord than him.
The payday gang is fucking gay. Just try and prove me wrong.
>>139905585
No dildos in the safehouse.
>>139901002
Fuck off, mate. Locke's voice is the best. Now stop playing with your dick and get back to playing Payday
>>139905670
He sounds bored, not excited, crazy, or like he's enjoying his work. I can almost hear him turning the page of his news paper between, "Could you please hook up the money to helicopter."
And I'm too bummed out to play with my dick or shoot cops.
>84 levels into my 18th infamy
>At the end of a very clutch DW big bank solo sneak.
>Realize I never spent my last infamy point.
>>139847079
Who am I though, senpai?
>>139905893
He's South African, they all sound monotone and bored. It's part of their accent.
Their accent is the description "Deadpan" gives when it introduces itself to new people.
>>139906435
Deadpan is an absence of something, Locke very much has the presence of boredom in his voice. There's a certain flow to his voice where he goes from bored to something else and back, the problem is he never goes too far from bored to actually sound like anything.
Maybe it's because Birth of the Sky has him repeating the exact same lines three times in a row that I really hate his voice. At least Bain puts something behind his, "Arms-Gold-Coke deal" broken record.
>>139816875
>needing to use the ammo bag ever
how is that even possible unless you are refilling sentries?
keys when
>>139908090
Retards who don't pickup ammo boxes.
Shitty shots with shitty weapons who can't maintain a positive ammo economy.
Or just plain old retarded.
Haven't played for like a year because I was sick of it sucking my bandwidth for huge updates that added more paywall content.
Is this game still alive?
>>139908678
Most people will tell you it's pretty dead, but there are still a good amount of folks playing.
>>139909161
15k rn...
>>139909771
Still more than, say, Evolve
>>139900718
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5_egx1263MAww kek, you kerels don't undahstand da memes yeh?
A reminder that ammo pickup will be getting nerfed across the board ;)
>>139911680
Holy shit, why doesn't Overkill kill themselves?
>>139915912
THAT WOULD BE TOTAL OVERKILL
>>139915996
They're a big company
>>139917213
for you
>>139905626
they dont need dildos when they're fucking eachother.
>>139918430
>they dont need dildos when they're fucking eachother
This.
>>139900718
Shallow objectives, a bit of bane posting and an annoying contractor.
Still fun to be honest
I want to hug Dallas from behind and ask him for money as I slip my hand under his pants and kiss him.
>>139920941
aw, thanks my friend
>>139911680
Fucking goddammit
Muh Buzzsaw's 18-25+ ammo pickup ;_;
>>139911680
Anything that makes the game less casual is a good change.
Now if they could just buff the accuracy of assault rifles ffs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6Z2iX53Qkw&ab_channel=Hoxtilicious
Mod to delete Jimmy as a contract and add these lines to The Elephant's contract when?
>>139927178
Already done.
http://forums.lastbullet.net/mydownloads.php?action=view_down&did=16003
>>139927178
>implying the Elephant would like the payday gang to backstab him after accepting the deal.
Does that mean we will have a "kill the elephant traitor" heist soon ?
>inb4 the game finish with all the contractors are dead, Bain acting surprised like if he totally didn't see it coming.
>he doesn't have stun resistance aced in his build
>>139930207
>Skill tree revamp.
>There's still mandatory skills no one with a brain can pass up.
>They're not just making all that stuff basic and making skill trees play style skills only.
>>139920941
I want to dress Hoxton as Hanako from Katawa Shoujo and force him to stealth Bomb:Dockyard with it.
>>139908090
>Guys hogging all of the pickups from kills I made before I can reach them
>Too lazy/risky to step outside for some
>When we brought 6 ammo bags and decide to go crazy
At least those are my reasons.
>>139816875
>join Counterfeit DW heist,
>host is level I-52, has the DW mask and is saying "stealth" at the beginning of the heist,
>mfw as he suggests to restart the level once we go loud and he can't even manage to find the sewers at the end of the job,
Subtle/10
>>139905893
That's part of the character. Birth of sky is just another job for him, aside from him ripping off his employer. No matter how exciting a job is eventually you get bored of it. I used to like making cabinets, but after doing it professionally for 4 years I was super bored.
>>139929914
We haven't killed Bob Mckendrick yet for bringing in the new FBI director with a mad-on for us and his henchman Capt. Winters.
>>139929914
>Killing vlad
>Wolf gets one line in this update
>"Something something black market update"
>>139929914
I kind of want an Angel/GTAV Deathwish style ending heist for PD2. Where there's some major leak and the gang has to eliminate a bunch of people before splitting up and going back underground. Just make it the final heist to come out before they cut off development and start working on GiveUsMoreMoneyDay 3.
>>139937935
>seven day heist
>raid Vlad's house which looks like a patched up Rats D1
>sneak into Elephant's new apartment he took over after FF D3
>Dentist's office on AT Downtown
>Beneath the Mountain 1.1 for Locke
>Watchdogs D2 for Gage
>Four Stores/Slaughterhouse mix for Butcher
>Hoxout D2 for McKendrick
>19.99$, masks and weapons are in separate pack
What's your build's name?
>The gang returns to the safehouse after a job
>Dallas notices Hoxton's bloodstained shirt
>Hox sees him glaring and looks down
>"Oh, whatever. It's nothing, probably not even mine."
>Dallas reaches for Hoxton's collar and unbuttons his shirt
>"You look hurt, Hox. Let me take a look-"
>"Piss off you wanka! I'm alright."
>Dallas takes him by the hand and seats him on the sofa
>He disinfects the would, then takes a bandage out of his medic bag and wraps it around Hox's shoulder"
>Hoxton looks away embarrassed, but doesn't complain
>"Are we done here?" He asks, still looking away
>Dallas ruffles his hair and gets up
>"What are you, afraid of a little blood or something?
>Hoxton immediately gets red on the face
>"I- I said piss off!!"
>Dallas leaves the room and scoffs, leaving Hox quite unhinged and flustered
>>139937935
They're either going to end development or extend PD2's life cycle but not make PD3.
2015-2016 is the year of "focus 100% on porting PD:TH heists". Paid ones for movie ads don't count. They're not going to restart the whole shebang immediately after they finish all this work to port. They announced 2 more years back in Spring Break 2015. We don't know if it means until March 2017, or if it means Crimefest 2016, or if it means Crimefest 2017, but they sure as hell probably won't start a whole new game to restart the porting process very soon after they finished PD2's.
They're too lazy for that. And also if they decide to finally ditch the 10+ year old Diesel engine, they're going to have to re-code the heists from scratch in the new engine instead of recycling the old shit multiple times like they have been constantly doing. I doubt they're going to be eager to do that so soon. They probably won't even finish porting all the heists by the end of the PD2 lifetime because of how fucking long it takes them. They gave up Slaughterhouse and FWB during Crimefest 2015, we got the Wolf Pack in Spring Break 2016. It's like 6 months of dev for two heists. At this rate, it'll be another 2-3 years before they finish porting the remaining 5.
The Payday franchise is now to OVERKILL what TF2 is to Valve. A blemish on their resume, and a reminder of all the mistakes they ever made that they can't get rid of like a Downs baby. Valve isn't going to make a TF3, and OVK isn't going to make a PD3 if either wants a clean slate to pretend they never did anything wrong.
>>139940538
>>139944678
>The Gunslinging Bagflinging Cashclinging Trashcleaning Silent Controller
>>139939252
>Dentist's office
I'm pretty sure the Dentist retreated to his ziggurat once we brought his phylactery back to him.
>>139906242
Are you me?
I'm hoping they take the "don't put stat bonuses in the skill trees" thing to heart because some of these stat ups would actually be downgrades for me.
>>139951838
Probably they are going to fuck up with the Perk Decks, like
>Get 4 additional skill points for having this perk tree 9/9
Literally the +% Infamy drop chance
>>139911680
Everyone knows how this will end.
>People without ammo bags will pick guns with best ammo pickups
>People with ammo bags have some wiggle space with their choice
Or
>Everyone will just take weapons with best ammo pickups
It happened with guns like Queen's Wrath etc. where they aren't picked because of their shitty ammo pickup rate and it will happen again
>>139930207
>tfw double flashbang for 6 seconds that adds up
Who thought up that stun time should be fucking additive should gouge their fucking eyes out
tfw you realize you forgot your parachute while sky diving down the airplane
>when people complain about goat sim being a meme heist only made because they tried to be funny
Also this heist (d1 at least) is hard, good hard, like Slaughterhouse.
help
>they → >overkill
>new skill trees gonna be even fucking worse broken shit that it is now
at least we still have stockholm syndrom ;)
>>139954870
>Snipers on every roof
>good hard
Next you're gonna tell me Meltdown is a good heist.
>>139956410
Well, there's good changes like stun resistance being T1 skill
is this the place where i cry about my game crashing
>>139956410
>Killed SMG Specialist
>Kept Stockholm Syndrome
>>139959027
On this place we tell you, don't use shit mods
>>139959210
not using any mods family
>>139958414
Why not remove it at all and reduce flashbang duration by 75%? Why not remove all speed\stamina skills? Everyone gonna ace them anyway
>>139959657
Gotta keep that 'challenge' factor for those who Tabula Rasa/Nostalgia heists
>>139959027
Crash seconds after launch?
>>139953925
I got flashbanged 4 times in a fucking row a few days ago without stun res.
>>139959996
doesn't crash after launch, crashes when i start a heist
crash log says Application has crashed: C++ exception
[string "lib/units/weapons/newraycastweaponbase.lua"]:188: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)
tbqh, armorer tree is still trash
they need to buff armor and lock everything from HBV and higher behind skills, with aced versions giving special skills like that shield melee thingy for ICTV.
Maybe make bulletproof capstone skill that will reduce stamina\speed penalties when aced and basically will give middle armor same mobility as LBV or even suit without skills.
It's probably better to keep ICTV for turtlemode builds, just further increase armor and speed penalties
>>139941324
Or...they use the exact same engine, give it minor cosmetic tweaks, and launch pay day 3 as a cash in. Then they port pd2 heists which run fine because it's the same game with more bloom. Then they dump all the ported payday 1 jobs as a single pack (but charge $3 more than normal).
>>139960306
Oh, i dunno then. I'm getting crashes as if i had an outdated hook .dll
>>139960692
no worries, thanks for the help
guess i'll try again in 6 months
>>139960580
You realise that PD:TH and PD2 are using the same Diesel engine, right?
After all that pizzazz and talk before launch about using a brand spanking new upgraded engine built from scratch to avoid the first engine's shortcomings, they just used the same engine from the first game and have been struggling with it since because they don't know how to make their own engine and/or they just don't have the manpower to do so.
It's a complete mystery as to why it takes so long to port heists when they're using the same stupid engine.Answer is that they're too busy not working on it for paid ads and extra safes and fucking up the game's balance. "Dodge needs a buff" -- OVERKILL devs 2016
>that feel when your solution to the balance of the game would be just to increase the damage of the cops.
>>139961835
Would that matter? Devs only ever balances around OVK and below. They never play DW when playtesting because they can't.
>>139961252
>It's a complete mystery as to why it takes so long to port heists
I think it was already said by someone that devs are working at other projects right now? I think even Almir himself said something like this.
They probably already have them done or can do them in very short amount of time. They just won't release them as long as community is happy. FWB and laughterhouse were only released because masks apparently werent enough to please community during crimefest 2. Wolfpack was released because people didn't liked goat sim heist and it was too long until hardcore henry heists.
Pretty much everything after crimefest 2 is either rehash or paid ads. Pretty much after crimefest 1 is either promo, weapon pack, rehash or done by LGL.
>>139962316
>FWB and laughterhouse were only released because masks apparently werent enough to please community during crimefest 2.
Those were released for *FREE* to appease the playerbase.
The original plan was to release them and the rest as paid DLC.
We could argue that OVK lost motivation to port the rest of the heists because they can't squeeze us for DLC money anymore but if that was true, we would've gotten GGC much earlier than like April. They're just ADD babies that got upset that we didn't like their retarded microtransaction schemes (for the COP or for Crimefest) and so are just aimlessly dicking with random shit to look productive while they wish they weren't working on the game anymore.
The shit they do is to just try and appease the one or two loud pubtrash on the subreddit and it turns out, it sucks because both the devs and the loud pubtrash don't know what they're talking about (e.g. Safehouse customisation ever getting implemented at all or in a state that is worth the 3+ year wait), and also the loud pubtrash don't actually represent the credit card wielding consumer base that still might spend money on this game.
Technical reasons aside, we won't get a PD3 because the devs won't want to make one. To them, trying to make changes/updates of shit they don't understand while we bitch at them for sucking is basically like trying to move up SC2 rankings against Korean pubs.
>>139960692
>verify integrity
>59 fucked files
Why the hell does this happen, anyway?
All hostages, gone.
>>139964251
Mods.
You have to uninstall the mods before every update or else your game is fucked.
>>139961835
Well, some people thought that instakilling Black Dozers on DW were great and them being nerfed made the game shittier.
I suppose those same people would like it if every cop in the game had one-hit-kill potential on Death Wish because then it'd be "challenging" again.I'm actually curios to see how that'd play out
>cook off
>10 bags in
>poo in loo food I had for lunch starts to bubble up\
>i can wait a little while longer
>20 bags in
>wrath of kali is burning my insides
>where's the supplies heli
>25 fucking bags
>as soon as heister #4 toe touches the escape box, I run like hell from my pc
Don't make the same mistakes I did.
>>139960513
>armorer tree is still trash
Are you kidding? It's one of the best new trees. Even if you go with suit for dodge, it's worth putting points into for Transporter and maybe Bullseye.
any word on when the new skill system goes live?
>>139961835
Did you play Boiling Point on its release day? That's actually a legit method of balancing grinder. I had legit fun against the pre-nerf Ruskie Rapers.
>>139966190
If they start beta tests on next friday or whatever, then I'd say from few weeks to a month
>>139965886
Transporter is no longer going to get 2 bags at once.
OVK devs said that they don't know how to implement it.
>>139966806
Just throwing bags farther is worth a few points.
>>139966806
>OVK devs said that they don't know how to implement it.
>Implying Overkill would ever claim they're going to do something without even knowing if they can.
Blasphemer. The OVK knows all, sees all, is all. It can not lie.
Illuminatiheister,the masked man, when?
put them in order
wick
point
hardcore
>>139968090
One of these things isn't like the others.
One of these things doesn't belong.
Wick is a heister and didn't come with any heists. Point Break was Heist DLC that also had a free heister that fit the theme of the DLC. Hardcore Henry was a free heist update that also came with a free character that was actually from the movie it was promoting.
I guess the only order would be the one you posted in, Wick came first, Point Break came second, and Hardcore Henry was the last and most recent one.
>>139968090
Wick gave us only Wick.
Point Break gave us two decent heists and the most boring heister.
Hardcore Henry has two good heists and an slightly above average heister.
In terms of content: HH > PB > Wick
In terms of heisters: ONE > RESU-FUCKING-RRECTED > soboringhedoesn'thaveasinglememorableline
>>139967901Bane?
>>139966575
It was pretty damn fun on OVK but from what I heard it was an absolute nightmare on DW.
Think we'll get Akimbo Locos?
>>139966575
>had a blast
>got a bugged ground is too cold
>actually had the most fun I'd had on a run for a while, discovering new shit.
>really like the purple distortion EMP effect, because I am a drooling moron who loves pretty colors and shit
>hard, but not back breakingly so like some DW levels. could fuck around or have shittier backup and still do good
Russian is kind of what I want the default difficulty to be
>>139971089
It was fucken easy on DW, I did it first trywith a pub crew.
Only scrubs complained about too much damage.
>>139961835
Why the fuck is Bobby Hill hanging out with the Payday gang?
>>139975260
>2016,
>no akimbo judges, Stryk or mosconi too,
Never
So after greedfest 2, what are these threads about?
>>139966575
>>139961835
>payday 2 should be dark souls
>>139980169
the game?
some weapons got stupid numbers but nothing else changed, we just talk about the bronco instead of the car-4
>>139980169
Complaining, gay fanart and blogging.
>>139980473
Why did you stay? Legit, do you just not care?
>>139980169
I can't leave until I 100% the achievements.
>>139980875
You are truly here forever. I'm sorry.
>>139980537
Still hoping for pdg-tan lewds
>>139981076
S-support will end s-someday. R-right?
>>139980729
Not him, but I still find the game alot of fun.
>>139982068
I know the game is fun, but do you not care about overkill?
>>139906242
>kokoro
>using glocknade
wew lad
glocknade reskin for grenades when...
>>139983260
I need this. I already turned my javelins into nuggets.
>>139980729
>>139982591
I mean, why should I? Extra, optional cosmetics are fine. Selling a broken, ridiculous perk deck at a premium didn't piss people off, and if it did, it was nowhere near the shitstorm that was CrimeFest II.
It is almost May 2016 and
- Stealth is still nothing but waiting 30sec-5min for the guard to move out of your way
- Out of a hundred something melee weapons, there are only something like two or three worth using
- No effort has been made to automatically filter out people doing something as obvious as maxing out all skill points, yet by default people who are using a paid DLC unlocker get the boot
- XP and Cash rewards are still in the loot drop roulette
- Grinder is still retarded and nothing free comes close
- Still no alternative to preplanning votes
- Inspire is still a near-instant spammable remote revive
Probably more, but you see? Adding cosmetic effects to weapons that sometimes include fucking plus four to fucking accuracy? Whoop de doo, tasers still tase you through the crack of a door. I don't care what your gun looks like, I want meaningful weapon and skill point distribution choices, a challenging hardest difficulty, and some thought put into public lobby management. I don't always have a group, and I'd rather not have to use unstable plugins to manage cheaters and idiots.
The people who quit over microtransactions are retarded, anyway. Everyone already owns the game, nobody has to buy more DLC - I know I haven't. They're not giving Overkill any profit by continuing to play the game they already paid for. If someone is going to say they like the game but stopped playing over CrimeFest II, sorry, but I really do think they're retarded.
>>139985095
The worst part is, despite all of my issues with the way this game is developed, I can't fucking find anything else to play for more than a few hours. This game could be real good, I see that every time I play it, but there's a lot to get pissed off about, and none of it has anything to do with people with different colored pistols.
Don't get me wrong, fuck Overkill, they're stupid, but CrimeFest II was not the beginning, and definitely was NOT the worst they've ever done by a long shot.
I heard Grinder is apparently getting a pass in the upcoming balance update, but the same stream that was mentioned in also featured an Overkill employee talking about how dodge builds need to be buffed because armor is so much better right now, so who the fuck knows?
>>139985260
How can anyone at overkill think dodge is worse then armor?
Grinder is a ridiculous easy mode perk deck, where you can tank easily more damage then any armor and still have dodge rng to help you out too.
>>139985260
That shitshow of a stream was a real piece of work.
I'm not sure what they were even saying about Dodge since one of them was saying it was too powerful since once you trigger a dodge event, you are functionally invincible for a nanosecond and that was over powered while another guy was saying dodge was too weak or some shit.
>>139985095
>>139985260
I think you listed a lot of good things about a good game that most people agree with, but saying crimefest 2 wasn't the worst thing they've done is fucking stupid.
I stopped playing because the more people play it, the more money starbreeze gives them to Jew harder. I like the game, but there are plenty others to play with devs thar deserve respect.
I was just checking in, we're all here forever in big or small ways. I hope I've made my case clear.
>>139980729
>>139982591
>>139985095
>>139985260
Basically what I'm getting at is I didn't play Overkill Software for two thousand hours, I played Payday 2 for two thousand hours. The game may have very frustrating flaws that maybe are only evident after playing for a while, and maybe they're truly just nit-picky and personal opinions, but Payday 2 before CrimeFest II and Payday 2 after CrimeFest II are damn near the same game. If you liked playing Payday 2 before CrimeFest II, you will like playing Payday 2 after CrimeFest II.
If you liked how Overkill handled Payday 2 before CrimeFest II, then I have no idea why the event changed your mind. I really mean that, I do not understand the thought process. They've already broken promises, and they've already been selling power at a far higher level.
>>139985558
How in the fuck do you even reach that conclusion? did that guy use a dodge build and expected to just stand (or rather crouch) in an open area and and just sit there taking no damage whatsoever?That's what Maniac is for, at least on Overkill.
One of the first things that I learned when I started dodgefagging is to use cover.
>>139985406
>>139985558
I don't know, guys. I don't know. I was really looking forward to this rework, but that stream destroyed my excitement. Of fucking course I'll still be here to play it when the update hits, but I am not going to have any sort of positive expectations going in.
>>139985690
>the more people play it, the more money starbreeze gives them to Jew harder
But Overkill/Starbreeze have been 'jewing' hardcore for a while before then - DLC has been spilling out of this game's ass for a long time, real overpriced low-quality shit at that. Maybe you're right in assuming Starbreeze works that way - it makes sense. I just don't know that such is the case, and like I said - you already own the game and whatever DLC, just don't financially support them anymore. People are clearly still buying and playing the game, and neither of us can stop that.
>>139985690
>but saying crimefest 2 wasn't the worst thing they've done is fucking stupid
I'm sorry, but you can not convince me that selling Grinder for $4.99 is not as bad as CrimeFest II, even as a collective week of poor decisions. Don't take this as a challenge, it's just simply how strongly I feel on the situation.
I've tried both Left 4 Dead games, Vermintide, and both Killing Floor games. Closest I got was Killing Floor 2, but I started that very early in its development and quickly ran out of things to do.
Though it isn't a comparable game at all, I had an absurdly good time with the Battleborn beta, so I think I'll finally put down Payday 2 for some time.Maybe a month before the population dies out because nobody knows what the fuck a Battleborn is.
>>139986432
>selling Grinder for $4.99 is not as bad as CrimeFest II
not as bad as -> not worse than
Long weekend, fuck me.
>>139985691
This, desu
Tell everyone you'll be releasing powercreep DLCs regularly, and nobody panics.
Say you'll be releasing a mostly cosmetic microtransaction system out of the blue with arbitrary +1 stat boosts, and everyone loses their minds.
>>139986432
>neither of us can stop that
It's really just easier to not care, because it IS doable, but you like the game enough to sacrifice considering the bigger picture.
Its not a matter of being able to, it's a matter of wanting to. You've clearly chosen the path that suits you best, as have I.
>>139986613
I get why, they're hooked on the fact that Almir stated before the game's release that the game will never have microtransactions, the whole "Shame on you if you thought otherwise" line.
People will eat that shit up all day. It's easy.
But holy shit, they've been releasing flat-rate power-ups since Weapon Pack 1. It was only recently that base game owners got a throwable, and all that did was fuck over their ability to use the grenade cases purchasable by Weapon Pack 1 owners.
But no, there was only a small murmur regarding the issue with the throwing cards. Because that's not easy. You can't write headlines about that and get people who don't play the game to care.
I don't know, man. CrimeFest II was no fun for me at all, but honestly, I was more upset that the community chose that update to start a shitfest when there was plenty worse to rise up against in the past.
>>139986934
I care a lot about this game and the state it is in, I hope I've made that abundantly clear. I watched pre-CFII players leave en-masse while a horde of new players took their spot. Those people do not care. They will not care until something else easy to criticize shows up, and frankly. I don't think that's going to happen again.
I want this game to reach a good state. That's why I play it and voice my opinions on matters regarding game balance in places I know are read by people who can reach to the development team when I have the opportunity to do so.
But, you're right, we're both after the same objective - making Payday 2 a better game - though in different ways. So there's no sense in kicking our own asses.
>>139980169
Skins, Grinder and people pretending they are hot stuff by finishing big bank DW.
Sociopath users don't exist.
>>139987704
I used to be a Sociopath user. Then I saw the light and embrace the best perk:Infiltrator
>>139985406
>How can anyone at overkill think dodge is worse then armor?
As much as we like to call suit Grinders dodge, the dev probably means only Rogue and Crook specifically.
Finally sat down and watched the Point Break remake.
It wasn't even the same fucking movie. They just put in a couple references to the old movie and made an unrelated action flick movie.
They didn't even get the final scene right. The whole movie, including the last scene, was the movie just spoonfeeding every single itty bitty autistic detail about their philosophy, motivations, and why they want to do the things they do to the viewer. Like, there's a difference between Bodhi explaining his life philosophy and Bodhi screaming thathe has to go onto the wavebecause he wants to and that Utah should feel bad for trying otherwise. It was like some autistic "STOP BULLYING ME" speech.
Like, what kind of characterisation is that? They just took every single bit of charm and magic from the first movie and just butchered it to squeeze in an extra shootout or set of explosions. And because they drowned the love interest halfway through the movie, the remaining half was just Utah playing Follow-the-Bodhi and doing fuckall.
The first movie was nowhere near good/perfect but at least it had a purpose and real characters. I went in with low expectations and I'm still massively disappointed. This remake did to the original what the remake of The Day The World Stood Still did to its original: Threw away the original message of the movie and shoved in a half-assed ecoterrorism schtickand -100% less Keanu so you can't blame it on him even though that remake's poor quality wasn't his fault. They didn't even keep the president masks past the first job, and the FBI doesn't even call them the Ex-Presidents. They even changed the meaning of "Point Break" so that they can spoonfeed it to the audience.
I like Beneath the Mountain, it's a nice loud heist, but damn I'm glad I didn't pay money for it.Searching for those fucking rings made me hate Birth of Sky more than my usual bitter indifference towards open-field killboxes.
>>139991470
don't you ever read reviews before watching a movie
>>139991737
I can understand skimming aggregate review scores to get a good idea of public reception, but I don't think I'd consider reading a review of a movie before I watch it.
>>139991737
Wouldn't have mattered, I just had to know how the movie was eventually.
Also cooking 25 bags of meth takes a long fucking time.
I like cooking meth. On Rats. Because it doesn't feel like an aimless chore. Cook Off is just hell.
Also what >>139991879 said.
>>139987704
>Sociopath users don't exist.I wish I didn't exist
There was a talk on the stream about rebalancing weaponsAGAIN
Is there any hope?
