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Burn All Heretics Edition

>/twg/ steam groups (MP battles on weekend, co-op anytime)
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/twgmp

>Attila
TWC Mods -- http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2105-Total-War-Attila-Modifications
Slavic Master Race Culture DLC -- [YouTube] Total War: ATTILA - Feature Spotlight - Slavic Nations Culture Pack (embed) [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
>Warhammer
EGX Siege AI and Vamp vs Chaos gameplay -- [YouTube] Storming the Castle! Total War: WARHAMMER (embed) [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
Chaos vs Empire battle -- [YouTube] Total War: WARHAMMER - The Empire vs Chaos Warriors Let's Play (embed) [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
Vampire Counts Campaign -- [YouTube] Total War: WARHAMMER - Vampire Counts Campaign Walkthrough [ESRB] (embed) [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
Vampire Counts Reveal -- [YouTube] Total War: WARHAMMER - Vampire Counts - In-Engine Cinematic Trailer [ESRB] (embed) [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
Corruption Blog -- http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/How_Corruption_Works_in_Total_War:_WARHAMMER
How Corruption Works -- [YouTube] Total War: WARHAMMER - Vampiric Corruption Detailed! (embed) [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
Vampire Counts Roster - http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Vampire_Counts_Army_Roster
Siege of Altdorf - [YouTube] Total War: WARHAMMER - Vampire Counts Siege Battle Let's Play [ESRB] (embed) [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]

>Pastebin FAQs
http://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN

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I never noticed all the Embeds. Please don't get mad at me.
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>>138711030
Westphilia last attempt for survival
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>>138712509
We like them here.
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>>138712381
>[Embed][Embed][Embed]
kek
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CHAOS DWARFS COMFIRMED
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>>138712284

Nah.

Aenarion did nothing like that. The most notable thing he did was fighting four Greater Daemons at the same time.

Impressive in WHFB but pretty normal in AoS (For demigods and gods).
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>>138712690
This should be in the op.
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The Lord of the End Times calls for thee.

Who would answer the call? Who would ride with him and usher the end of this pathetic world and its weakling peoples.

Who is /Archaon/?
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not even surprised
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>Legend of Sigmar DLC comes out
>Play as Asoborns
>Command an army of naked warrior women riding chariots
>Change the course of Empire history so that it was founded by a Queen that demands sex before battle
>Empire is now Amazons

yey
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>>138712552
Westphalia falls
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>>138712713
;^)
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>>138713216
>all those Shimazu Katana Samurai
Man I don't think your improved acc archers are gonna matter.
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>>138713264
Seriously, doe.

Aenarion is cool and all but he is nothing compared to the heroes of AoS.

Celestant Prime would wreck him without breaking a sweat.
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>>138713297
I got matchlocks so I will be fine right? It's the their last army and I can take their last for next turn
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>>138713487
Uh huh.
But is Mystic Gohan stronger than SSJ3 Goku?
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>>138713672
>But is Mystic Gohan stronger than SSJ3 Goku?

Yes. Duh.

Gohan is the stongest in the universe but he doesn't do crap!
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>want to reinstall Shogun 2
>Want to play as the Date clan
>Realise the game is on a timer "you have to do XYZ until year M"

Fuck off with these timers, jesus christ. Let me conquer shit in my own pace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ2VisWsItc

Convince me to play Shogun 2 again.
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>>138713521
Mehbe
Shimazu katanas are pretty intense
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>>138713837
Install a mod that gives you more turns.
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>>138713521
If those were normal katana Samurai it wouldn't be an issue. It'd be messy, but with that much archer superiority you'd win without difficulty.

But these are SHIMAZU katana samurai. They are ashigaru-destroying buttfucking murder machines.
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>>138713837
anon, just install darthmod 5.0, there is a submod for it that make the end date 9999 on domination victory goals, aum-sho adds units and is compatible too, Its fun stuff.

>>138713864
they almost routed my loan katana guys outside, those guys were pretty scary
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>>138713837
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>>138714081
Yes, thanks anon!
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>>138714026
>386 friendly fire deaths
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>>138712221
>>138712593

I meant on release, although I am skeptical that we'll see Dogs of War. Then again, maybe they'll be the 16th "major" faction, and CA will forsake Hashut and the Dawi Zharr.

Honestly, Dogs of War could be really fun if they did something different with them. Like, we take over a merc company with a base(s) in the Border Principalities or Tilea or Estalia. The base is like a mix between a horde and a city - stationary, but separate from a city. You upgrade it with special buildings like a horde, but it isn't an army itself.

You can recruit armies from the base and go around raiding wherever you want, but what you mostly want to do is hire out your army to another faction at war. One of your armies teleports to their capital, and more can follow if they pay for it, and you fight in the war as their ally. If you lead a siege, you can decide to sack the city and/or hand it over to your employer.

Your only goals are to make money, and expand the fame of your company. Victory conditions involve upgrading your base to a certain level, and/or operating full bases all over the map. You do have to protect your bases, though, making sure no hostile faction takes the region you're based out of. You also want to help stop Chaos from destroying the world.

...and I just realized that you meant that we would get Dogs of War as merc units or some shit. NVM, that seems really likely. A shame, I'd love to play Total War as a merc faction.
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>>138714158
it's not that bad, I've had worse. I think I am doing pretty good right now.
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I gotta wonder how many samurai actually existed in any one clan. I mean when you throw away the third full stack of them your reserves must be depleted.
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>>138714674

>spreading gaijin cults in my glorious nipland

waito piggu cucks fuck off
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>>138714718
Back in the sengoku era samurai status was not restricted by birth, that only happened during the Edo Period. So you had lots of newly minted samurai cropping up all over the place.
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>>138714724
*tips kabuto*
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What do you do while you play a TW game?

I play Hearthstone
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>>138715074
Spess
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>>138714602
Ogres were mercenaries before they became a faction on the table top and even then they still kept that part of their lore as well as being able to field those mercenary units in their own armies, it's why I don't think there's gonna be an eastern expansion and the ogres will just be a horde that runs around joining whichever side gives them the most/tastiest money/food.
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>>138715074
Watch movies, tv or youtube videos on my other monitor.
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>>138714158
>implying 386 deaths is bad
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is there a chance for any horse archery bullshit in warhams or is there none of that
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>>138715371
jesus fucking christ almost 30 thousand soldiers on your side. how the fuck?
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Reminder: that when Warhammer fags and Total war fags get along, the thread is much better
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>>138715378
Chaos has mounted axe hurlers.
Empire has mounted rifles.
I'm pretty sure the Greenskins get some Goblins on wolves with bows.
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>>138715492
that probably was not even half of my army, the 17k of polish-lithuanian troops are also not even a third of the enemy army, you can see all their stacks in the background, I was just very careful with positioning to insure that I bring more troops to the battle. Though the main purpose of the pic was to show friendly fire, both sides lost more than 2k soldiers to their own men
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>>138715175

Well, I can hold out hope that our blessed Dawi Zharr will appear as a slaving expedition somewhere halfway down the World's Edge on the existing map.
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oh come on, I just crushed 3 full roman stacks at Ravenna and suddenly these guys land from the sea and attack me?

this might actually be the first campaign I fail, even though the second I played in attila was legendary WRE
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>>138713224
I like farm battle maps
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>13% converted a turn
>70% incite revolt
it's only a matter of time until the hojo collapse
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>>138716487
Currently attacking toothpaste
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Let's talk Japan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A1Zb_HX-6g
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>>138716750
wrong general?
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> Tomb Kings still not announced
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>>138716530
>ADALBERTO BARBOSA

THE MEMES DID IT AGAIN
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>>138716798
No, the intro is something really nice and we need more of that in total war games
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>>138716530
friend what clan are you playing as to embrace christianity so lovingly it looks glorious
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FUCK THIS FUCKING BULLSHIT

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Best elves still not announced
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>>138716979
Have you never played the Otomo?
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>>138712381
You're over-embedding!
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>>138716824
>Fucking

In their dreams maybe
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>>138716598
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>>138716979
Otomo, its pretty fun
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>>138717090
No... I just realized I never bought them. Would they be the way to go to spread the word of god?
tips on getting started?
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>>138713002
Get rekt Chaos scum
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>>138717165
built matchlocks
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What is the difference of round,grape and chain shot in naval combat?
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>>138717097
>"Sip" from her "Grail"
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>>138717165

The word of our Blessed Lady Amaterasu, perfected by the Infinite Wisdom of Shakyamuni Buddha, can be spread by almost every faction in Shogun 2.
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>>138717165
As Otomo you have access to gunpowder shit at the git go. You start in Kyushu next to all those sexy trade ports, and you have access to ridiculously overpowered Nanban ships, so money really won't be an issue.

The main issue though is the fact that being Christian makes everyone hate you. So Daimyou Honor and diplomacy bonuses are an absolute must to counteract that. Once you secure Kyushu for yourself you just gotta work on spreading that word of god around.
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>>138717303
Chain shot is two iron balls connected by a chain
They will wreck sails. Slowing ships down (the white bar) really good if you want to take prizes or they're faster than you

Grape shot or canister is basically a shot gun, shit range but it will kill crew and affect moral but you need to get close to use it

Round shot is your standard shot, I think it goes the furthest. Punches holes in the hull more likely to sink them but also does damage to crew and cannons. what you'll use 90% of the time.
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>>138716893
>Literally dead faction
Lel
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>>138717304

That's her period blood you cuck
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>>138717303
Round is normal ammo, good for punching holes in ships. Chain will destroy masts and cripple ship movement. Grape is like anti-personnel flak, won't hurt ships a whole lot but it'll fuck up the crew.
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>>138717427
>>138717303
Some tactics with different shot types

Ships have a massive moral penalty if they have no mast, so chain shot does good moral damage. no one wants to be a sitting duck and most likely a ship without sails will surrender.

Getting behind a ship at close range and unloading a full broadside of grape in their ass will kill LOADs of crew and will also give a big moral shock.
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>>138717303
Chain shot is for taking out their sails so they can't move

Round shot is for then punching poles in their ship

Grape shot is for shooting into those holes and killing everyone
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>>138717270
Okay I will go gun mad and crush the nonbelievers. How do you get your unit cards looking like that
>>138717426
thanks for the info ill focus on kyushu and getting mad dosh and then spread the word of god farther on.
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>>138717303
Chain to destroy sails, so they're dead in the water

Grape to kill crewmen

Round is basic shot
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>>138717165
>>138717602
otomo can be really hard at the start. but once you pass a tipping point its all gravy from there.
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>>138717689
okay well I'll give it a go tomorrow and see what happens
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>>138717602
Early game is everything with Otomo, you will get bumfucked by like 3 clans at the start unless you are careful. Everybody else on Kyushu hates your Christ-worshiping guts and they will gang bang you for it if you don't preemptively remove one of them from the table and become too big for them to snuff out in a couple turns.
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>>138717841
This sounds like its going to be so much fucking fun my body is ready
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>>138717928
btw you can go christian as any clan but ikko
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>>138718028
I've done that before but this just sounds like something totally different
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>>138717928
Just be very careful about setting up your mid and late game with building stuff. Remember about the papermill up in Buzen that will give improved accuracy to all ranged units, and also remember Satsuma has superior metalworking that can give you some nasty heavy infantry.
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What's the best overhaul mod for Napoopan? The one that isn't Darthmod
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fuck
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>>138718085
anyother little tidbits like that you can offer
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>>138718221

Convert to Buddhism and remove the gaijin.
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>>138712713
a Mortal Elf fighting 4 greater Demons is more impressive and interesting than DBZ characters blasting each other with beams of light
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>>138718221
Honor is important, Your daimyo has shit Honor. but with matchlocks early it shouldn't be a problem.

You'll also get a quest early on that will give you improved matchlocks so it might be worth while to wait for that quest to proc before going heavy on matchlocks (i think the conditions are to recruit a matchlock unit so by the second turn you should have it active.)

It can also be worth while to move your nanban port to buzen once you're established.
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>tfw no uncultured barbarians to conquer
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>Try to install Shogun 2
>Installer refuses because "content still encrypted"

what? why is steam so terrible?
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>>138717110
Toothpaste has fallen
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>>138718926
France one region!
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this is balanced
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>>138718221
Winning heroic victories with your Daimyo is a good way to build his honor, which is important so you can boost your diplomatic relations as much as possible until you can get more cultural research done. A basic guide for getting a heroic victory is to win a defensive siege while outnumbered heavily. Depending on the difficulty you're playing at you may have to resort to cheesing the AI to pull this off.

Other than that, basic battle stuff:

Yari ashigaru are the lynchpin to every army. Yari wall stops all enemy charges.
Bows are OP as fuck. Whoever has archer superiority dictates how the battle is fought.
Samurai are strong but they actually work better in tandem with yari ashigaru than in pure samurai armies. Yari are the anvil, samurai are the hammer.
Cavalry is mostly useless unless you're Takeda, it CAN be deployed effectively but you can get along fine without it.
Matchlocks are effective only when they have a clear line of fire and can't be immediately bumrushed. So defensive sieges and during ambushes or opening salvos in pitched battles. Even in both these situations you generally only have a limited window where they are effective.
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>>138718221
build matchlocks in massive numbers
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>>138719151
Preußen über alles.
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>>138719328
Are those fucking Naginata ashigaru?

Doesnt the Naginata require proper training to use?
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>>138717012
Please try to represent that race with actually good images or I'll get upset.
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>>138719470
fuck if I know, they cost more then yari.
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>>138719470
He is using a unit mod
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>>138718690
pls help ;_;
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>>138719972
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=steam+install+content+still+encrypted
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I was doing so well too.
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>>138720110
Nothing for Shogun 2 nor any separate solution. Thanks for assuming I didn't google it beforehand though.
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make it stop
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>>138718926
For Denmark!

>>138720116
You obviously needed more guns
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>>138720552
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>>138720442
Your request was fairly barebones, no way to tell what level of stupid you were operating at. Didn't mean it JUST to offend.
Have you tried the solutions for other titles?
I'm unfamiliar with steam install problems as I've not had one(Terrible problem with Shogun 2 launching but that's unrelated to steam) but the google results as well as stalling at install points towards a steam issue rather than title specific.
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>>138720963
I have, yes. I've deleted ClientRegistry.blob, all the app.manifests (which in turn now has steam saying I've no games whatsoever installed but I remember a few of them atleast)
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>>138721332
I was cheering for ya shitto-kun.
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I'm not sure if I can stop them from taking all of the mainland I have left.
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>>138721517
Get some fucking Katana Samurai
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>>138721517
Next time try taking your island, maybe a bit more and then establish some vassals on the edge of your territory.

That way you can turtle up for a bit and spend all your income on improving your economy with a buffer. It'll also pump up your daimyo's honour which helps public order
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>>138721634
almost got the full armor upgrades in satsuma, will pump them out then
>>138721425
things are not going too well
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>>138721771
Don't wait for the armour you need em now, you can always replace them later. Also train all your ranged units in the province with the armoursmith because they will win ranged engagements with better armour.
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>>138720837
England re-declares war(we where allies) and lands invasion army on the same turn,will have to retake this settlement next turn
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>>138721930
Nah, train them in the accuracy province
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>>138721964
Tried the best i could with 2 line infantry+shitty mob units vs army of line infantry
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>>138721972
Accuracy never seemed worth it to me, does it really improve the kill rate by a lot?
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>>138722092
Pimped out yumi ashigaru are deadly than yumi samurai
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>>138713521
W-why do you have men outside the castle?
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>>138722181
Maybe he thinks keeping the missile units firing all of the time rather than moving them out of the way for the melee wall defenders to take their spot is a better setup?
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navy is starting to fail but I will soon be able to mass produce quality matchlocks.

>>138722181
some anon told me it slows them down so I have more time to shoot them with guns, it works pretty well.


>>138721930
I think I can hold them back for 3 more turns
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IF OUR RUIRÍ IS TO BECOME ARD RI
HIGH KING OF ALL IRELAND
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>>138722319
Got an explanation for that last trade node being unused?
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>>138713219
What if the men are homosexual/bisexual? Do they get feminine boys turned into girls with dicks via magic?

Sounds like a job for Slaanesh desu.
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Shitto-kun has inspired me to load up my Takeda Campaign
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>>138722395
guy sneaked in and killed my ships, then another guy I am at peace with took it
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>>138722446
Dirty Date bastards getting btfo'd by ninja
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>>138715371
<Vivaldi-Four Seasons intensifies>
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>>138722446

>takeda
>army not at least 75% cavalry

Come on anon, roleplay a little.
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>>138722446
Fuck why couldn't Takeda's scheme be SLIGHTLY less red?

>>138722506
oy vey
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>>138722319
I'm rooting for you, Shitto-kun!

You've make me play Otomo again!
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>>138722548
I like having one unit unit in my armies armies because you can get sneaky wins in sieges sometimes.

Also it means I can have a general and an even number of the other units to soothe my autism
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USA! USA! USA!
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>>138722680
Could have micro'd the cav a bit better but still a decent victory

>>138722576
I would, but I like money and ashigaru are too good. Also too many spears with no unit mods.

>>138722581
True, that would look a bit nicer
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>>138722746
> 1898
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>>138722630
Do it for Isukiri, both of you.
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>>138722829
We will fight this pagan beasts
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why is this game so easy famalams
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>>138722829
WHAT?

WHAAAT?
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Man, I'm playing as the Franks and want to convert to Arianism.

Is there any easy way? I've conquered much of central Europe but the the damn german paganism still there.
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>>138722829
>The claims started in 1933 after the discovery of supposed "ancient Hebrew documents detailing Jesus' life and death in Japan" that was supposedly the testament of Jesus. These documents were allegedly seized by the Japanese authorities and taken to Tokyo shortly before World War II and have not been seen since.


Jews literally shut it down again.
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>>138723098
Not really unless you horde off to an arian province at the beginning of the game and then horse back again.

Just convert to the latin one

Or 1% conversion mods
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>>138722746
Shit that must have been a fun campaign. USA/Caribbean gets the benefit of being isolated allowing a massive military and economy to build up before heading to Europe and India.
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>Goblins fight Dwarfs ever day all day for millenia
>make fun of them and proceed to steal their holds

>Goblins fight High Elfs a few times throughout history
>their whole subrace is terrified and afraid of Elfs

I think Dwarfs should take note and not talk shit about their long eared rivals.
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>>138718442
Mortal? Fucker if you pretend to know the fluff, please KNOW THE FLUFF!

Aenarion carried with him the power of Asuryan and by drawing upon Windowmaker he became the avatar of Khaine. Two godly essences were within him.
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>>138723024
christianity comes to japan, japan becomes even more isolationist and tries to stamp out christianity, jap christians go into hiding by integrating their religion into their pagan traditions, turns out after japan stopped persecuting them they go back to being open about it but as it turned out not having a consistent source of scripture when they were in hiding led to some miscommunication.
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>>138723247
The reach of the elf surpasses the reach of a dwarf anon.

Tall people>Short people.
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>>138722446
I love the Takeda colours, I like the Takeda positions, but I'm not a big horse guy. Wish I could pick my own clan colors.
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>>138723247
>surprised Goblins make fun of a race they can keep at bay by holding them at the forehead
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>>138723317
I guess that may be the reason, Dwarfs are about equal in size to Goblins, and Orcs respect the Dwarfs for being so Martial

However for an Army of GOblins going up against High Elves, it gotta be like a ragtag group of human militiamen going up against perfectly disciplined Ogres.
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>>138722810
Mr. Takeda himself decides to take the fight to these Date scum. Should be ez
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>>138723024
Jesuits understood the necessity of allowing people to interpret religion themselves before believing it. It's why they were good missionaries.

>Hey Japan, worship Christ.

>Why should I? He was probably white like you. Or are you saying he was asian.

>Yeah sure whatever.

JESUITS BABY
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>>138723287
Any legit Christian preacher would bring the bible with them to hand out as part of their mission. They've had the information there.

It doesn't make sense for them, not to know. It sounds like a legit story that came from somewhere its very specific regarding the bones being picked clean then gathered for burial even referring to Golgotha where Jesus died.

We know Jesus travelled with Joseph in his pre ministry years but Japan is way too far. It's believed he went to Britain as it was the chief Tin producer and Joseph was a Tin merchant and probably went across the Mediterranean and there's even a theory he went far east towards India and learn their teachings and brought them back to the Levant.

It's cool story though settling in a village as a fisherman,having a family and living to 106.
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>>138723521
Indeed and I cannot wait to impale Goblins and Orcs on my spears in Expansion 1 or 2 ;)
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>>138723534
The cowards run almost as soon as they touch the yari wall.

>>138723429
Same. It is nice having not as shit horses though.
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>>138723537
Oh also forgot to mention.
It's a pretty pathetic instance of Christianity in Asia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Rebellion

>Some Chinese guy says he's the brother of Christ
>millions die
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>all retainer +3 convert province
>he converts a province to 100% in 5 turns
the best
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>>138722573
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXknALrHSfI
I just wish empire, even modded, wasnt such a buggy mess with shit AI, the setting and the map are great, I mean common I managed to invade Russia with my veterans of the Indian conquest campaign through the fucking Caucasus, how amazing is that?

the loading screens are fantastic too, I know that attila does it as well, but the gunshots sound better than random battle clanking of metal
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>>138723643
> civil war in China that lasted from 1850 to 1864, which was fought between the established Manchu-led Qing dynasty and the Christian millenarian movement of the Heavenly Kingdom of Peace.
>war fought between x and the Heavenly Kingdom of Peace
>war
>peace
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>>138723247
the dwarfes aren't nearly as impressive looking on the frontlines as Elves are

on top of that they usually fight the dwarfs underground.
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>>138723875
Kill them all and let God sort em out.
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>>138723521
>mfw when arrogant elf lords who've only ever fought a few hundred goblins who had to fight through a D-Day landing scenario just to get to the front lines of elves gets smashed apart by the real ubermensch of WHFB
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>>138723220
> latin one
But I wanted the arianism bonuses...

Anyway, as I plan to face Attila, is it better to remain pagan? -10 to morale can be annoying.
Should I wait til the Huns are dead and then convert?
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what a friendly place to be
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>>138724191
keep dreaming archybald
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Why does nobody bother to post RotS campaigns? Is it really THAT shit?
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>>138724285
Latin is still ok. You get an osmosis bonus on all your provinces, so they convert pretty easily and stay high. Also you can use your food on the drinking halls etc.

Regarding the Huns it's ok to convert. You can stack a few items that raise morale on your armies that will fight them and it's not a problem
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>>138724285
franks wipe the floor with huns, -10 morale isnt that much of a handicap when your units are far superior
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>>138724372
>fight for thousands of years turning your country into a barren wasteland to resist the coming of the rightful king
absolute madmen
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>>138724191
>mfw I'll be drinking ale from my drinking horn, wearing my dorf ring all the while conquering Norsca and everything below in the name of Karl Franz.
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>>138724467
>tfw WH:TW lets us prevent the usurpers retcon asspull ascenscion

when I'm finished, the Druchii females won't even show an ankle
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>>138722949
Routs with knights is so easy

One of the truly meme things about RTW and M2TW. Using two generals bodyguards to take out one or two units at a time from the edge of the line in a defensive siege until the attackers are all fucked up.
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here we go again
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>>138724760
Why do you dislike winning?
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>>138724398

It's not shit, just a bit lacking.
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>>138724594
>full map WH:TW emulating The End Times
>Lizardmen Skaven alliance conquers Ulthuan
>Witch King lies dead at the feet of a randomly spawned unit of beastmen

Your goal is noble though, I don't particularly care for any flavour of elf, but enforced chastity on sluts is superb
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>>138724789
there is no way I can lose this one, going to be a landslide.
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why elfs shaved that dwarf beard?
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>>138724851
>lizardman skaven alliance
>navy
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>>138723635
Trying to take out the Date so I won't have to fight two fronts on the realm divide, triggered the realm divide.

Oh well, It's pretty much only ikko and otomo left anyway, and they already hate my guts
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>>138724760

MAMA-MIA
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>watch the dwarf trailer
>they speak in plain English instead of Scottish or Irish
>mfw

They had one job. ONE JOB!
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>>138724962
mercenary ogre navy escorts their magical transports.
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>>138725036
Irish dwarves sounds like the worst thing imaginable
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>>138725081
makes sense
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>>138724937
Because they're knife eared cunts who were jealous of the dwarfs.

>>138725036
The Dwarfs in WHFB are based off norse/saxon cultures not celtic ones and they usually get portrayed with yorkshire accents in the books and games.
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>>138724993
pretty good
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>>138725378
>Because they're knife eared cunts who were jealous of the dwarfs.

that was the only reason?
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>>138725378
There is no such thing as Celtic dwarves anywhere.
But the Scottish accent is a fairly common trait in their portrayal.
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>>138725524
We got Greco-Roman dwarfs, though.
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>>138725475
in fact the opposite

The dwarfs audacity to make demads of a Pheonix King were nothing short of an insult, so they insulted the dwarfs back

the Elfs would have left it at that but the Stunties swore bloddy revenge and prepared for their biggest military operation of all time, and in effect their own downfall.
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>>138725610
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>>138725610
I'm truly amazed of how SHIT is age of shitmar...

I mean even if your plan is to fuck up warhammer in every possible way there is no chance that your would do the messy shit that age of shitmar is
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>>138725675
Shaving a dwarf beard is a grievous cultural insult. That being down to the messenger of the High King is a slap in the face of the High King himself and the entire dwarf race. The Elves knew this.

The dwarf lands and caravans were attacked by Elves. Their dignity and honour was violated by Elves. There was no resource but war.

Furthermore, the War of the Beard wasn't the downfall of dwarfs. It was the Slaan earthquakes,
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>>138724734
Which game does this sort of thing get better? I only have the two of those, and I'm thinking about upgrading from my integrated graphics card and toaster so I can actually play some video games.

When does the AI stop being fucking braindead in TW? Are some later games worse than others in this regard? I just don't want things to be so fucking easy.
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>>138725916
no recourse*
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>>138725916
>The dwarf lands and caravans were attacked by Elves

they were dark elves
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>>138725972
the AI is a bit better in the later titles, attila most notably but it is still pretty bad
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>>138726091
The dwarfs saw them as elves. Nobody told the dwarfs about the whole Malekith thing.
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>>138725916
Sorry about that,

>>138725675
If it was the dwarf's downfall then how come it was the elves that lost most of their colonies?
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>>138726274
that war was the reason we have the gayest faggots in the warhammer wolrd
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>>138725916
>>138726274
What did pepe do to the dorfs?
They felt like stomping on some rats and accidentally fucked over some manlets?
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I made it!
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>>138726527
That isn't the cuck knights.
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>>138726554
I don't think the dwarfs have ever had any contact with lizardmen apart from some prospectors getting lost in Lustria or possibly in the Southlands with some of the holds in the Badlands.
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>>138726691
Which mages are more powerful? elves or pepes?
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http://strawpoll.me/7368473

QUICK
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>>138726919
Pepes
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>>138726554
The Slaan wanted to adjust some geometric lines so they used their power to shift the tectonic plates of the world. This caused massive earthquakes that damaged and destroyed many dwarf holds.

After this happened, Skaven and Goblins/Orcs started appearing everywhere having been aroused by the earthquakes. The dwarfs having been sent reeling by the quakes were not prepared for the masses of violent critters that poured into their busted and damaged holds. Que many years of suffering for dwarfs.
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>>138726919
Pepes probably though there's a lot more elves and they are much more reckless. Pepes learnt magic directly from the Old Ones who could terraform planets and use interdimensional travel whilst elves had to learn on their own.
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>>138726919
Pepes when they were alive.
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>>138727154
>Pepes learnt magic directly from the Old Ones

So did the Elves.

IIRC, it was said that the Elves learnt magic from on the laps on the Old Ones.
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>>138727154
Pepes are old ones.
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>to recruit top alani shock cav you need max level palace
what the fug, settling down was a mistake
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>>138727143
Noice.

>>138727239
Elves were the plucky young curious kid down the street that would listen to the Old Ones tell stories.
Pepes were biological AI forged to serve as butlers in the Old One's mansion(the planet).
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From what we know so far, can we expect a buggy, horribly optimized launch of TWW like Rome 2?
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>>138725764
It's a different beast. It has it's own themes that are different from WHFB so it's hard to adapt for most people.

It's a fun setting though.
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>>138723247
>>138723521
Straight from the army book. Goblins fear Elves because they stink funny and because their haughty nature unnerves them.

Though they only fear Elves they do not outnumber 2 to 1.
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>>138728049
CA are still living that one down, just check the comments of any of their recent videos.

It's going to have to be a lot better than that, and they know it.
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>>138728049
>5 month beta testing period
>28th April initial release date was apparently conservative

yes.
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daily reminder attila has 48 siege layouts
warhammer total war has 3
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>>138727280
lol no
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>>138728164
If the previews are any indication, the fact they're no longer using matched combat seems to result in a massive performance boost

The worst part about those previews though is that the warscape engine is really showing its age at this point. I don't find the game to really look all that great by comparison to the earlier titles.
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>>138728049
I find it suprising that people have enough faith for CA to actually preorder the game
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>>138728467
Rome 2 was the last time I was trolled.
If anything their shitty DLC practices are convincing me to not buy their games until they go on deep discount with all the DLC included anymore.
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>>138728467
There is zero faith required, gramps. Refunds exist. Get with the times.
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>>138728467
Personally, if I was that disheartened by some bugs I would have stopped playing TW after M2. With patches and mods they all get fairly enjoyable so I still have faith. Not preordering anything though, I usually wait for discounts.
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>>138728248
daily reminder rome1 and med2 have 135489315713 siege layouts
when all new total war together have only 5
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>>138728248
O N E W A L L
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>>138728467
are you aware that refunds are a thing now?
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>>138728669
I literally can't imagine waiting till next fucking year to get a 15-25% discount on W:tw. I mean for fucks sake Attila died 5 months ago.
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>>138728562
R2 really put me off total war and haven't really recovered from it.

>>138728590
Fair enough. Makes me wonder how R2 would've fared in the same enviroment

>>138728669
>Personally, if I was that disheartened by some bugs
Wish it was just some bugs, having to wait a year to actually have functional game wasn't terribly fun. At least they didn't drop it like an ugly baby, like with empire.
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>>138728856
>Next year
It'll be half off with all but the most recent "culture pack" for xmas m8, that's like 8 months.
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>>138728860
It wasn't that rome2 was shit that made me hate CA. It's that they blatantly lied and actively made it worse than Shogun 2 and Napoopan by removing features that made me hate CA.
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>>138728856
It usually doesn't take that long for the price to reasonably drop, and it's not like I have nothing else to do or play while I wait.

>>138728860
Empire at launch was more broken, damn it had BSOD and the AI was incapable of doing anything
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>>138728701
Check out this advanced feature right here
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>>138728941
Rome II wasn't but hey I'll take your word for it and tell myself that for £25 extra I got to play the game 8 months earlier with the chaos DLC.
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>>138728701

The good:
>Sieges will be fun

The bad:
>Sieges will be repetitive

Its not like I care much about sieges, rarely play them on campaigns
But with flying units WH:H should make sieges less of a pain
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>download and install a really well received mod like DeI, LME, FotE, etc
>its interface and menu elements like background pictures and sounds are often low quality pics taken from google

>browse screenshots of reviled mods like Radious
>it has a rather nice and quality-consistent level of visual polish

why
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>>138729121
The last TW game where I actually enjoyed sieges was M2.
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>>138729186
The last TW game where I actually enjoyed sieges was no TW
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>>138729186
The first couple of times, yeah, but then literally how?
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>>138729230
Same. They're always such a slog.
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>>138728856
What are you talking about, attila is currently the second most played according to steam charts, and thats only because its too graphically intense for slav computers which means they have to stick to Rome 2
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>>138729045
Don't worry, its for the sake of the wider market.

>>138729053
Yeah rome2 wasn't as far gone in the shitter as empire was, though It was bad enough for me to find some other vidya and older tws for the next few years
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>>138728941
It'll probably be at least 33% off for the summer sale.
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>>138729186
crossbows and guns refusing to shoot down from the walls, and the fact that deploying stacked at the gate meant any horse heavy faction would die instantly ruined the fun in that game for me

sieges are trash in all tw games, its mostly about the siege equipment being worthless compared to catapults, pathfinding and AI
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