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>/dsg/ Player List
http://pastebin.com/9hG50KHX
>/dsg/ Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral
>Draw
http://doodleordie.com/r/darksouls
http://imgur.com/a/XhBxC (DeS)
http://imgur.com/a/wwtuf (DaS2)
http://flockmod.com/dsg

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/h1etMh8E
>Essential PC mods
http://pastebin.com/XwL5KDhB

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>DARK SOULS 3
http://pastebin.com/RDDaqtcP
>System requirements
http://gamegpu.com/images/stories/Test_GPU/MMO/DARK_SOULS_III/test/ds3_1920.jpg
http://gamegpu.com/images/stories/Test_GPU/MMO/DARK_SOULS_III/test/ds3_proz.jpg
>Character planner and science
https://sites.google.com/site/darksouls3stats/home
https://battlecalculator.com/dark-souls-3-class-selector/

Hollowed: >>138199704
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Excellent Taste Tier:

Daggers, Curved Greatswords, Greataxes, Hammers, Fists, Whips

Good Tier:

Greatswords, Curved Swords, Great Hammers, Halberds, Greatbows

Meh Tier:

Spears, Piercing Swords, Ultra Greatswords, Axes, Reapers, Bows, Crossbows

Little Bitch Tier:

Katanas, Straight Swords, Staves, Talismans, Flames

NEVER EVER Tier:

Twinblades
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reminder to VOTE for your preferred meta if you haven't already

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At least everyone in /dsg/ can agree that the Logarius Wheel is (easily) one of the dumbest weapons in the series
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>>138227153
>Bows
>Meh tier

I haven't seen anyone use or talk about bows in this game yet. What's up with bows yall? I want to use one!
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so im just slapping together this little butchered HUD for myself and im sort of a quarter of the way there.

I was wondering how to remove these two circled hud elements. I cant find em to erase them out
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Post your PvP music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tqVv6qzN6o
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So is it out yet?
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>>138227254
2/10
Made me reply.
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>>138227153
OFFICIAL DARK SOULS 3 TIER LIST


>FUCKING INVINCIBLE Tier
Havestoc

>R1 Spamming Tier
Darksword

>High Tier
Straight Swords

>Meh Tier
Katanas
Spears
Ultra Weapons

>Shit Tier
Everything else

>LMAO GET REKT Tier
Sorcery
Pyromancy
Miracles
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lmao
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>>138227362
>A
>FUCKING
>WAGON
>WHEEL
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Got DaS3, why does it look and run worse than bloodborne? Seriously this framerate is intolerable, even for pissstation 4 standards
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>>138227282
Leak in two hours.
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Day 1 patch when?
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>>138227203
wow who's this cute girl?
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>>138227278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sAWokazhQo
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>>138226772
>there's literally no build and no combination of stats where Thief is the most efficient starting class
Jesus, how did they fuck that up?
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>>138227428
It's dumb in a charming way. It is absolutely fitting with how the Souls series conducts itself.
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WHAT DOES RANK 3 OF FINGER FUCKERS GIVE? RESPOND NOW
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>>138227428
Exactly.
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>>138227254
also one of the most powerful str weapons when gemmed right
easily more broken than dbs
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>>138227367
>Havestoc
How's the kick boost of the "Amazing Horse" Ring?
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>>138227153
How are the curved great swords? I heard the murakumo was pretty bad. Havnt heard any mention of the old wolf curved great sword. It seems to have a different weapon art compared to the other curved greatswords.
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>>138227485
16 or so starting luck
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>>138227485
That has pretty much always been the case.

Just like how Temple Knight was the best starting class for 90% of possible builds in DeS.
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>>138227469
>girl
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>>138227637
Even on a luck build, cleric is more efficient
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>>138227562
>Horse Ring increases the power of kicks
>It's the signature ring of Patches, best known for kicking people off of things

How did it take me this long to put that together.
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>>138227450
2 hours.
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>>138227562
Not nearly enough to guard break a greatshield.
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>>138227562
It's great vs medium shields, where the boost is almost enough to instant-guardbreak them. Against greatshields, the boost is trivial and makes no real difference.
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>>138227485
FROM doesn't balance the game for PvP autists
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>>138227816
If there's a Stone Ring... 2 Hits+Kick=Guard Break
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>>138227931
Then what do the balance for?
Being horribly inefficient for stat-allocations affects pve as well.
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>>138227965
>2 Hits+Kick=Guard Break
Got proof of this against a +5 Havel's Shield?
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>>138228157
Gonna test that after launch cuz... pc.
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>>138227965
>2 Hits+Kick=30% of turtle's stamina gone
ftfy
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Less than 48 hours to go
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>>138227278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTVgUrRNM7E
Dex/Chaos Blade
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>>138227262
IS THERE SOME KIND OF IN JOKE WHERE PEOPLE REFUSE TO TALK ABOUT BOWS THAT I'M NOT IN ON!?

WHAT THE FUCK /dsg/! SHITS GETTING SILLY!
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Rapier class weapons need to be deleted from this game.

Sick of bodying someone and they then pull out a rapier and stunlock me to death endlessly
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>>138228487
I like this pic
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>>138228487
playing it right now :^)
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>>138228765
They do that so she can't fight back later
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>>138228296
>after launch
So you haven't even played the game yet?

I have, and guard breaking a greatshield is nigh impossible. Kicks normally only take1/4 to 1/3 of a full stamina bar off a Havel's shield, and they're slow enough that you can easily roll away from them.

Check enisle2004's vids if you want to see for yourself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-x2zyCqY78
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how important is vit and defense?

could I just run base vit on most builds and wear light armor while staying under 69% load?
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Daily faith scaling reminder

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12SWqLUYuJ2AMS0WBjYSL0IZr1reADaIm_tRmq-jZwrM/edit#gid=0
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>>138228854
delete this post
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>>138228892
>21 vigor
just stop
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>>138228821
>breaking the law to play a game you're not allowed to play if you're not japanese
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>Get summoned
>Host keeps making gestures instead of just walking through the fog
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>>138228892
were you the guy that wanted high cast speed?

why the fuck don't you just go 20 dex and use sage's ring?

why do you have 21 vgr at SL120?
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>>138228949

Well i'm still going to be a STR/FAI lightning god
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Damn, last night I was getting to do a ton of blue invasions in Townshit, as well as getting invaded a bunch. Now there's nobody. Steam really fucked DaS 1's multiplayer and made it unreliable as hell, huh?
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>Post the wrong fucking build
kek my bad.
Blazing Monk guy here again I revised the build on suggestions from the previous thread.

I'd say its looking a bit more balanced thank you for your suggestions.
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>>138229019
preorder arrived early senpai
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>>138229102
>cosplay builds in township
rip
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>>138229102
Nah it's just everyone went to Ds2 because it's the better game
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>>138229146
what's the strength for?

why 15 att?
second slot is at 14

you have 2 slots for 40/40 int/fai investment

you still have virtually no hp
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>>138228937
>how important is vit
Not at all.

>and defense?
Slightly important because you get a defensive boost just from wearing armor in each slot. This boost is definitely worth it, but heavier armor isn't.

>could I just run base vit on most builds and wear light armor while staying under 69% load?
Yes, as long as you're not running around naked, you'll be fine. Even the lightest armor setup (4.1 weight, from what I've seen) is enough.
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>>138229146
>30 vigor
*breathes on you*
*you died*
heh, nuthin' personnel... kid
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>>138229265
(you)
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>>138229146
>30 vigor
just stop
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>>138229203
Estoc with DMB does work if you know how to juke people. Did pretty well last night. Too bad nodes are fucked right now, it seems.
>>138229265
that's an excellent meme, my friend.
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>want to minmax my first DaS3
>don't want to spoil myself too much either
fuck...wut do?
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Laurence the First Vicar did literally nothing wrong

discuss
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>>138229354
so, as long as I have every slot filled with some sort of armor, I'm good?

that's kind of retarded
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>>138229146
STR is for this weapon.

http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Demon's+Fist
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>>138229265
top (You)
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>People crafting all these builds

Whats the point? you can get through the game without all this preplanning. It seems like busy work to me
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>>138229575
>Estoc with DMB does work
not against anyone competent
although most of the ds1 tryhards are playing in ds3 right now so you've lucked out and got a few shitty pve babies or ds2 fags
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>>138229597
...build
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What's causing that weird after image thing? It started after the gargoyle cutscene and ended again when I alt-tabbed.
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>>138229597
>>want to minmax my first DaS3
Why the fuck would you want to do that?
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>>138229597
spoil movesets, soft caps, rings, etc and nothing more

>>138229669
you will be disappointed to find demon's fist is garbage and has absolutely mediocre scaling

its WA does no damage and its moveset is the same slow shit as the caestus
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>>138229382
>>138229683
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/04/08/dark-souls-ii-best-game/

>tfw nothing he says is actually incorrect.
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>>138229802
making builds is fun.
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>>138229747
ok
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MAN GRUBB SCRUB STAFFF SHIT IS BORKENED.


WENT FROM 412 TO 497 AR WITH GMW

AS APPOSE TO CURVED STAFF I WENT FROM SO AND SO TO 512

44 LUCK THIS SHIT IS WEAK
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POTTERY
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Here's my build:
40 in everything.
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>>138229669
Just infuse a cestus with chaos and save yourself the wasted stats
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Ok pretty happy with this.

>Vigor capped
>Attunement as low as it can be without wasting points in INT, FTH or LCK
>Endurance capped
>Vitality high enough for some fashion souls
>Stength only as high as the highest gear requirement I have
>Dexterity capped
>Intelligence, Faith and Luck as low as they can be

The only change I might make is dropping STR to 20 and upping VIT to 24 instead for more wiggle room with potential fashion souls. The weapon with a 24 STR requirement I might not actually use, it's on the maybe pile and if I don't use it I don't need to go higher than 20.

Actually what I'll do is take STR to 20. Choose my fashion souls and go with the lowest vit possible for it and then put whatever is left over into STR.
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how is this balanced?
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>>138230437
>40 endurance
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>>138229747
>Mental gymnastics
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>>138230480
What isn't fair is how few weapons have their maxed scaling available anywhere for view.
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>>138230480
This is a videogame, not a tightrope walker.
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>>138229790
Change smaa to fxaa
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>>138229654
>so, as long as I have every slot filled with some sort of armor, I'm good?
Pretty much. Some light-mediumish armor is worth using if you have the spare weight, but it's not critical. Heavy armor has a horrible defense to weight ratio, so it's never really worth it unless you have tons of spare weight with nothing to use it on.

For reference, with the lightest armor possible, I took 15% less damage then when completely naked. With medium armor, I took ~25% less than naked. With full Havel's, I took ~35% less than naked.

So it's not completely useless, but it's generally not worth the weight, unless you have nothing else you need.
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>>138230480
because base damage is more important when factoring scaling than the scaling letter itself and chaos not only lowers the base damage of the weapon but also split up the scaling into two different damage types

C/C off of 122 base is not very good
A/A off of 158 base is pretty good

it's not as great as you think it is
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>>138230480
It has the exact same AR with chaos infusion as it does uninfused, but chaos is split damage.
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How does one obtain the bonewheel shield?
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>>138230674
Why not? Where should I put it instead?

I also can't hear what that loli is saying.
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>>138229950
you can respec 5 time per playthrough
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>>138230950
You don't ever need to hear what Shinoa is saying, you just need to appreciate her
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>>138230970
so?
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>>138231037
Ok, but is 40 endurance just overkill? I mean I could drop it down and push strength up I guess but that's gonna be pretty minor gains.
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out of all 5 games, which of the protagonists had the hardest life? Hunter got fucked up pretty hard
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>>138231184
Yeah, its just like in BB. Anything above 25 is overkill.
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>>138231037
I'm detecting a fake loli. I'm downloading it now anyway.
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>>138230674
What is this gif supposed to mean? What does it convey? How does it relate to your post? It's an anime girl talking and showing joy through expressions, although we cannot hear her because it's a gif.

What the fuck is the point? What the fuck were you thinking? Did you even fucking think, you stupid fucking worthless weeaboo? Did you at any point consult your brain before attaching that gif to your post? Or was it that you have crippling autism and therefore cannot register emotions, so you just took a shot in the dark and attached a random anime gif in the hopes that it would match the context of your post?

You weebs should be gunned down in the streets like the useless degenerates you are. Your love of anime should have been medically recognized at birth as a defect so that you would be euthanized out of mercy.

But yes, 40 endurance is overkill.
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which will be the non shit one for ds3?
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>>138231184
I recommend 40 END.

Stamina is king, since the best build right now is Havel / Estoc. You need as much stamina as possible, assuming you try to beat them using an AUX weapon or elemental straight sword.
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>>138231479
the one on the left
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>>138231281
Bloodborne was a bit different because no shields and easy access to hyper speed stamina regen though.
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Can anyone tell me if there is a not summon sign for Kalameet? If so where?
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>>138231418
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>>138231581
Stamina still works pretty much the same way. It regens fast as fuck even on default no buffs
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>>138231539
>>138231184
Also more stamina just translates into more damage when using glorious infinite combos!
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>>138231418
wew lad nice pasta
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>>138231479
which wiki
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>>138231539
Who is that?
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>>138231813
buck angel
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>>138231813
a big guy
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>>138231790
Wikidot has always been the non-shit wiki. Fextralife is only used after release because wikidot takes forever to update.
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So is the Herald basically the Red Mage?
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>>138231813
hes milk pilled
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>>138231479
>>138231790
Check all of them and see which is more consistent.

Learn2internet you lazy faggot.
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>>138231813
master of shit meme routines

do not go to him for advice, he'll just make you fat and laugh at you
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>>138231720
Aside from shields being back in this game which completely changes things. In BB a dodge was just a flat stamina cost per dodge and as long as you had enough to dodge and attack a couple times you were good because it would just refill between actions, but with shields in the mix less total stamina means your guard is weaker and its harder to break an opponents guard.

In Dark Souls the total pool of stamina points actually matters unlike BB.
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does havel's shit really need to be in every dark souls game?
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>>138232460
Even Havel has to poop.
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>>138232302
BB really made me like non-shield approach more. Every time i use a shield i feel like i could better off just dodging stuff instead of blocking.
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Seriously guys, where is there no discussion of videos about bows?

It's really fucking weird.
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>>138232460
I think From mistakes it being widespread for being well liked.
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>>138232460
It's a shame because Havel's armor has a really neat design (the whole boots shaped like demon hooves is really cool), but it's gotten such a bad rep for being associated with shitters.
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>>138232534
It reminds me of this career advice program we had to use in school one day. It told half the class they should be "leather technicians" whatever that is.
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>>138230480
you need 40/40 or more to make effective use
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>>138232534
It could be either because either way you're wasting 1 level.

Warrior gives you 1 higher INT than you need, Cleric gives you 1 higher FAI.
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>>138231184
Don't listen to him.
40end might be overkill in pve but it's worth it in pvp.
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>>138232528
Really though you're pretty off learning when it's advantageous to block and when it's advantageous to dodge. It was cool that Bloodborne made everyone git gud at dodging and stop turtling, but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't take advantage of the ways in which shields are actually useful when playing Dark Souls.
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Souls+Pokemon crossover WHEN?
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_JoBtL4BafHEYXeE0z13gdO7DNCuvzs9aKMgcSHayHY/edit?usp=sharing

I guess I have to manually enter in values for every weapon and their maxed equivilant because the wiki's sense of formatting is beyond fucking retarded. Can't copy paste that shit.

Shit will take me hours.

>File
>Make a copy
>Edit purple values
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How worth are shields that allow one handed weapon arts? I hear it speeds them up by quite a bit. Is it worth giving up the parry?
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>>138232754
pokemon is for babies
pls no
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>>138232674
in my class everyone was apointed to be a teacher
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>>138232149
wew another /fit/ meme
are we really infested with your kind?
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>>138232550
bows in this game feel kind of janky honestly
pharis blackbow is super unimpressive even at 40 dex
i'm about to respec to give the darkmoon bow a try though, i loved that thing in the first game. i wish it didn't scale with INT in this game though
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Guys. Please take this very seriously (as seriously as possible on an anonymous imageboard).

I have (undocumented) mental problems when playing videogames; they aren't only about the usual OCD stuff, it goes much deeper. When I play the game for the first time, I sometimes raise the bar 'for fun': can I do X with a restriction Y? As soon as I did it, this becomes a rule I *must* follow. I am also a perfectionist/completionist freak. When I learned that Lautrec stops giving his tip after Gaping (I learned that long after killing Quelaag), I had to restart from a save backup. Whenever I meet some 'challange', I *must* complete it. All of my challenges, obviously, had the basic set of rules: no magic, no shield, no resins, no damage taken, no cheesing, no glitches etc.
1) The two cats that fall on you when you defeat the first one; I had to kill them both with the rules I mentioned above, in other words, no ring of fog to separate them, no running in the woods where they lose aggro etc; it took me about 3-4 hours to do that.
2) Doing a perfect-perfect Sif no damage kill, meaning not being hit even by the minor paws/jump damage. With my weapon I had to make 27 2h hits - took me about 5-6 hours.
3) Killing two egg-carriers at once before Quelaag perfectly;
4) Killing two Sentinels in Anor Londo at once (that was probably the most brutal challenge - took me about 5 hours)

Please understand that I list all that not for the sake of being praised or whatever, but to show you how serious are my problems. I can't stop. I can't turn my back and go away. Funnily, I have no problems having some overpowered or really good for the occasion weapon, if I had it BEFORE I encountered the 'challenge'; however, as soon as I pulled it once, I don't give myself the right to change the starting setup.

Continued below
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can infused weapons be buffed in 3?
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>>138232916
Damn shame, are the great bows at least good at doing what great bows do best?
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>>138232896
no, /fit/ would be telling you that weighted chinups and dips are meme exercises that nobody except crossfitters would do
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>>138232727
hmm thou may be right, im planning to use some pyromancy and flynn ring, gonna regret it
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>>138232946
>is it a magic/elemental/blessed infusion?
No
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>>138233015
i havent messed around with them much, but they knock down again in this game
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>tfw cleric has the highest faith but lowest intelligence.
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>>138232854
What's your point? So is Dark Souls, even DSP can beat it and he has the mental capacity of a 5 year old
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>>138232901
why does it cost MP to stab yourself
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>>138232916
Composite and the Dragonslayer(not the great one) bow are decent. They're mainly used for poison and tricks anyways.
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>>138233178
Because its a WA
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>>138233178
Because suicide is magic.
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>>138233178
It takes FOCUS
Don't wasn't to accidentally hit anything vital
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>>138232754
>Frogadier a knight instead of a rogue like intended.
What the hell man. They were designed to be a knight, Rogue, and mage respectively.
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>>138233189
>NO KNOCKBACK
>NO TRACKING
>NO DAMAGE

WORSE THAN DARK SOULS 2'S NERFED GREATBOWS FUCK
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>>138233178
if you even think about touching that L2 button, it costs FP
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>>138233323
frogadier is a duelist, not a rogue
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In what builds would Herald be a better choice than Knight?
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>>138232550
Bows are a solid and quick way to rack up some extra damage if you have the stats for them. Nothing amazing but they're quick and get the job done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b4ti3h_rg0
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>>138233178
cuz your mum is a whore
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>>138233381
>expecting FROM to learn and advance
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>>138233309
>Don't wasn't to accidentally hit anything vital
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>>138233323
"Respectively" refers to being in the same order as depicted.

Respectively, with the picture, they should be a rogue, a mage and a knight.
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>>138232945
cont:
Even after completing several such challenges (Hydra melee no damage in Darkroot - was hard, but the Ash Lake one is a lot harder) I sometimes had to restart a save losing ~20h of progress. A good example: as I said, I am also a completionist faggots, so I HAD to have the optional Patches encounter in Catacombs. First time I didn't know about it and missed it - had to lose my Titanite demon no damage (it's actually rather hard in that narrow corridor, however the Anor Londo one was a lot harder), a summon to Pinwheel (that's a fucking rare occasion, and my completionist checklist also states 'be summoned to each boss at least once'). Second time I got it, but had to restart again! Why? Because I killed Pinwheel without talking to Rhea's group even once, so they left for the Tomb. Is that gamebreaking? Fuck no. Is it enough to break my nerves? Yes. And I *do* understand how retarded that is, it's almost like I can't win against myself. Sans fight in Undertale had this one line about 'the hardest challenge for your likes: the challenge to defeat yourself and give up on trying something'.

So, I need to move on to the question I wanted to ask you. Yesterday I got very depressed when I realised that I had to take Old Witch's Ring for the real perfect walkthrough; exchanging the Maggot for it, even after Solaire's questline, means missing out at least on one dialogue line (the first meating with Quelaag and the first lines before you reach rank 2 for the shortcut). It was hard to force myself to let that pass, however now I have a much more serious problem. I really wanted to finish at least NG before 12th. I actually already have DS3 and can play it (the press version), but I still didn't go past the main menu even once, I want to start with everyone.

Still, the problem is: the pressure of running tight on time makes me fail.

Cont.
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>>138233458
The trio were meant to represent the Warrior, Rogue, Wizard fantasy archetype trio.
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>>138233490
greatsword buff when
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best girl
best route
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>>138233641
gimmie your steam account and let me play the press version
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>>138230437
Pretty much same for me. Do you think there's any low req spell for that 1 att slot?
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>>138233748
Thats not Yuria (Karla)
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>>138233641
>the first meating with Quelaag
>meating

lewd
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>Won't be able to cosplay as Samus again

DLC better give me my dark beam ballista and huge pauldrons back
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Hey guys, what's the character limit for names?
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>>138233795
my first playthrough was on pretty much the same build. I just threw on Flash Sweat when I got it, worked out well
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I want to play Dark Souls 1 again before I get 3. Is there a roulette image like this for DS?
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http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Dead+Again

Noice.
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>>138233748
I kinda like her armour
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>>138232708
Damn that dark blue cathedral set looks so dope
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>>138233847
i just realized that there's actually an NPC called Yuria, i thought everyone was calling Karla that because they couldn't remember her name
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Is Dark Bead in this? Or Dark Hail? Scraps of Life, Repel?
How is Dead Again?
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>>138233381
Blame the Japanese PvP community, they're the only people Bamco listens to. That is, Bamco only listens to Japanese fans in any meaningful way, and I'm assuming PvPfags got greatbows nerfed because I doubt PvEfags were writing emails about how their gear was too good.

To this very day I'm certain that if cancerous tryhards hadn't latched onto Souls PvP and demanded rebalancing I'd still be able to flip my happy ass through Lordran in Havel's armor.
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>>138234001
it was in das2 too
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>>138234129
>WAAAAAH
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>>138234057
Unfortunately is not droppable :/
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>>138227634

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXNoT551PM8
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>>138234091
How silly of you anon
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>>138234129
Look, if you want to be successful at this, just go complaining about them actually fixing 3k Dragon bow backstabs
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>>138233641
cont.:
Fail hard. My current roadblocks are Ash Lake Hydra (my attempts became completely shit when I got hit after killing 4 heads - got hit by the remaining 'easy' ones). The second roadblock is O&S. I still use the Drake sword (+3, but it won't matter to upgrade it to +5, and as I said, I can't do that anyway). While two-handed, it takes 4/5 of the large Ornstein's bar, meaning I need to make ~16 hits on him if I want super Smough; Smough first would take ~9-10 hits. The problem is, even with such acceptable damage, this sword has such shitty recovery that I simply can't find the time to hit them, especially if I try going for Smough. Any attempt to hit him in the opening results in almost guaranteed enough time for Ornstein to do something. Still, I know that it would take me several hundreds attempts to get it down. It's obviously harder than even Sif no damage, but possible. But I won't do it before 12th. And that keeps me down, and I grow desperate.

I want your opinion. Not on whether I need to see a doctor or kill myself, but rather on this idea: finish the game without caring for the challenges, ASAP, to make it before 12th; start fresh later, when the DS3 hype calms down and I have time again to go through DS1 (and actually play DS2, since I'll have to skip it - I didn't expect DS1 will take me so long), this time doing a real challenge run, SL1/naked/no damage on bosses and mini-bosses, etc.

Will I have time to do that? That's my first playthrough, so even if I don't go for the 'no hit' challenges, I'll still want to explore everything, get every treasure (already done with Great hollow and 10 lizards), get to every covenant etc... If I make the final push to defeat my psychotic mind right now, will I make it just in time for DS3?

Sorry for this wall of text. I needed to vent that. Imagine being like that while also having no friends, not a single human being to share all of this with.
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What's gonna happen if i use my build from DaS? Will i have a bad time?
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>>138234284
Dragon bowstabs were actually in the damage range of 15000
The 3k was the initial punch
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Are great axes any good? I want to keep the 'warrior' theme going but everyone is saying that straight swords are the best.
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>>138234129
Greatbows usually get nerfed because pvefags whine about being shot off ledges with them. That's why one of their major nerfs in 2 was to reduce their knockback effect.
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>>138233748
4C@1nHurst
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What's the math on how flynns ring works in DS3 and does it effect arrows
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>>138234507
Don't let anyone tell you what to use anon. Be the opposite of forced meta garbage

Use what you think is fun.
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>>138233938
16
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>>138234368
Anything that's above 40, dial it back. Otherwise, you should be fine. Oh yeah, and since carry weight and stamina are two separate stats now, you might have to take that into account. Put a couple of points in vitality (just a few) for your carry weight, then keep the rest for endurance for your stamina.
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>>138234713
Right, so no 59 END, Got it. most of it was under 40 besides vit.
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How do I know which skills to progress and when? Help me.
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>>138232708
nice chicken legs
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>>138234831
By what problems you're having. If you keep running out of stamina, first try to be more conscious of what you're doing and don't swing wildly.. If you still keep needing more, than increase the relevant stat. If you find there are enemies that kill you very quickly, in just a few hits, then raise your HP. If you seem to be doing next to no damage to enemies, upgrade your weapon and raise any stats that you need to wield it properly (it tells you on the item itself).
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>>138234831
The skills of gitting gud, all times.
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>>138234647
Anyone fucking know because I don't see numbers changing?
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>>138234321
you did it share it though i mean that's pretty interesting

i would personally have a lot of trouble finishing your challenges by the das3 release, so i would put it aside. but idk how your mind works
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Oh hey, starting as a Knight for just 1 point in FTH and INT you can access these spells.

http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Power%20Within
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Poison+Mist
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Carthus+Flame+Arc
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Great+Combustion

That probably seems pretty worthwhile.
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>>138234195
I didn't complain to get anything removed from any of the games, numbnuts.

>>138234613
I find that hard to believe since PvEfags could just play offline and retain better gear.
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Is the dark end still the good end?
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>>138234975
You can't deny I'm a sexy hollow.
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>>138234975
Thanks, it gets me all the BBC I can handle.
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>>138227269
Nevermind I did it.

Now all that I gotta do is change the item indicator without making it look like something from an iphone app.
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The credits song of DS3 hit me right on the heart
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So whats Iron Flesh like now? Is it near the once greatness in DS1 or complete shit like DS2?
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>>138235010
Thank you. I never really thought of it like this and just upgraded stats randomly.
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>>138235212
Pretty much just like DaS1
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>>138228716
Git gud :^)
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so, should i play quality or full dex-flynn's-katana-bow-rapier faggotry? magic's pretty worthless from what i can see, and i'm gonna get shit on by havel-estocs regardless
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what's the point of hollow infusion?
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>>138235135
>I find that hard to believe since PvEfags could just play offline and retain better gear.
PvEfags (i.e. 99% of all players) still want to see the notes, bloodstains, ghosts, get summoned, summon, etc.
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>>138235136
I guess it's the one that advances things and that the game was pushing all along.
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>>138233998
bump
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>>138228716
Excuse me, I think you mean the "Thrusting Sword" weapon class, you sissy
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>>138228716
stop mashing buttons
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>>138235180
My benis hit you right in the heart :DD
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>>138228716
You got rapied :^)
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>Lost Izalith is the most unfinished zone in DaS1
>Old Izalith is the most unfinished zone in DaS3
Like pottery.
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>>138235338
That's a good point, but I feel like the kind of people who would write angry emails to Bamco would just disconnect in order to avoid the buttmad in the first place. Then again, the kind of person to do either of those things might just do both. I still doubt that PvEfags lobbied to get one of the most useful PvE tools nerfed.
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So I have no clue what I am doing and tried to make a pyromancy build with minimum req for a spear and giving that chaos infusion.
Maybe I should go back to pure strength builds.
Math is hard.
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>>138231418
10/10
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>>138235725
>12 attunement
What do you even plan to use?
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>>138233748
>refuses to speak with you if you aren't hollow
>best girl
wew lad
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>>138231418
nice copypasta fag
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Which website is the build calculator on?
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>>138235318
flynn's isn't good anymore, and katanas are only slightly above average
go quality
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>>138235136
well the light end is a wash, so really going all-out for DARKNESS is the best bet

it's the only one that interrupts the status quo, in addition to this

though honestly, I really don't see the appeal of being a Lord of Hollows. Sounds boring, there'd be nobody to talk to
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>>138235783
It can't be Lost Izalith tier unfinished, surely
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>>138231813
MC Rippletits, leader of the GOMAD goonsquad
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>>138231418

HAHAHAHA NICE COPY PASTA FAG HERE'S YOUR (YOU)

ALSO IF YOUR FIRST PLAYTHROUGH ISN'T A HEXXER WHAT'S THE FUCKING POINT
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>>138235873
>this pathetic amount of FP
>that abundance of end you won't end up fully utilizing with fast weapons
>30 30 and not 40 40
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>>138236172
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Abyss Watchers is the best boss of DaS 3
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Have dark arrows always had tracking on them?
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>>138232786
Hey faggot. Nice spreadsheet. Take a look at this for stamina

https://sites.google.com/site/darksouls3stats/hp-and-stamina-graphs
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>>138236320
>I thought fire scaling caped at 60 combined faith+int
>I did not know FP was dependent on attunement
>I can lower my endurance
>thanks
faggot
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>>138236065
i mean, i've been playing offline, and i really like the katanas' WA, and rapiers are always fun. seems like quality builds are always just either a polearm, a straight sword, or a greatsword, and i'm pretty tired of all of those, truth be told.

has anyone really done extensive testing yet on flynn's, also? i haven't seen anything yet.
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>>138236204

What is this screen supposed to mean? What does it convey? How does it relate to your post? It's a homer talking and showing joy through expressions, although we cannot hear him because it's a screenshot.

What the fuck is the point? What the fuck were you thinking? Did you even fucking think, you stupid fucking worthless homerfag ? Did you at any point consult your brain before attaching that screenshot to your post? Or was it that you have crippling autism and therefore cannot register emotions, so you just took a shot in the dark and attached a random Simpsons screenshot in the hopes that it would match the context of your post?

You Homerfags should be gunned down in the streets like the useless degenerates you are. Your love of The Simpsons should have been medically recognized at birth as a defect so that you would be euthanized out of mercy.
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Like this post if you'll be Blades of the Darkmoon.
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HHHNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGG
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>>138232534
>>138235873
>>138235873
>>138235725
>>138230437
>>138229146

>SL 120

Can you guys please go back to your reddit hugbox?

The official meta is 80, as set by the Japanese community and anyone respectful enough to not play a homogenized mess that is SL 120.

Also, enjoy your havel + estoc fags @ 120.
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How are faith builds in this game? I'd like to go with a faith/dex build but after how fucking god awful faith was in SOTFS I'm concerned that it'll be ass again.
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>>138236957
>blue sentinel sentinels

no thanks; i'm either gonna mound-make or finger
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>>138236702
I wish this graph was more detailed. In the current form it's pretty useless; I need specific values. I could eyeball it but that would only give an approximation.
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