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/sthg/ #431 - Microwavable Enchilada Edition
>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK
>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b
>News/Developments<
Summer of Sonic 2016 Kickstarter Campaign Launched
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/04/summer-of-sonic-2016-announced-dated-kickstarter-launched/
Iizuka back at SoA; SoA names new western Sonic brand head
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/04/takashi-iizuka-is-in-the-us-to-oversee-new-sonic-games/
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/03/sega-appoints-ivo-gerscovich-as-head-of-sonic-brand-outside-japan/
Sonic 25th anniversary party at Sandiego July 22
https://www.universe.com/events/sonic-25th-anniversary-party-tickets-san-diego-2P1ZRL
Sonic Boom: Fire And Ice Out September 27th On Nintendo 3DS
http://mynintendonews.com/2016/03/19/sonic-boom-fire-and-ice-out-september-27th-on-nintendo-3ds/
Archie Action Solicits for June 2016
http://comicsalliance.com/archie-action-releases-for-june-2016-solicitations/
Mario & Sonic Rio 2016 Wii U releases in NA and EU on June 24th
http://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/03/mario-sonic-rio-2016-wii-u-releases-in-na-and-eu-on-june-24th-final-na-box-and-new-screens-shown/
25th Anniversary Pixel Sonic Shirts Out Now In Japan
http://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/03/25th-anniversary-pixel-sonic-shirts-out-now-in-japan/
>Recent Releases<
Sonic Lost World has released on Steam!
Sonic Boom's first season has ended! You can watch all of the first season's episodes in English here:
http://www.watchcartoononline.com/anime/sonic-boom
Previous thread: >>137320258
Thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeS0CcpRbGE
>>137641026
Is the knuckles based off another drawing
>>137641114
I think it's a panel from Fleetway
When?
>>137641912
When, what?
>>137641912
SOON
Would the humans in the Classic Sonic universe basically look like 1930s cartoon characters?
don't know if I already posted these but hey
notimeforgames!
>>137642758
Is a new comic due to come out on Wednesday?
okay pretty sure I did post them and this one because I changed the filename.
>>137644495
>>137644495
Next Wednesday I think. Might be getting previews doon tho
>>137644553
Yeah 280 is out next Wednesday. We'll likely get previews by Saturday. There is a digest coming out this week. No origins in it, but there may be some new Boom stuff.
BEST SONIC THEME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOLnI9CTL7M
HIGHEST QUALITY
>>137644995
Green hill zone?
>>137644526
There's some thing about that left (her right) arm that seems off. Otherwise breddy gud.
>>137644995
I don't remember Sonic being so patriotic.
>Someone's already drawn porn based off the the SU issue.
I'm disturbed yet impressed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QD9BkP1NZc
>>137645853
There is a single pic of Abyss and it is abysmally bad.
>>137645970
Man, Blaze is adorable when she smiles.
>>137645853
>All those Hearlessoul pics
This is some funny ass shit.
Discuss.
>>137646708
Excellent.
>>137645045
>>137645242
Do you guys want more?
>>137646870
I don't mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXikZjw2XlI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4E54wHGTc4
I still don't know if I'll get this game and the Wii U version. It does look nice and more characters, but you apparently have to unlock them.
>>137640690
>All my efforts had met with success
>Entire race he was born to protect dies off in 16 years
>The two great cities of his people are razed to the ground in the same amount of time
Comedy gold.
>>137645984
Like pottery
![[revving intensifies].gif](https://i.imgur.com/HelUXDh.gif "[revving intensifies].gif")
ALLRIGHT PEOPLE
HERE WE GO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Opy-_-Pvk8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLFQbJWE0g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LqwLvI7ywI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjQBEfQvH1g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc9F8FKa9wQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsUWzWzz_n4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxs24U7Sjsw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgeXSUQndiA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lstr1VDKuZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMHP8wP9Cj0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei6CD2sB8iI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbGR3k-cZZg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAgObg-PSR8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41bI25a90es
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLuxSTrIitw
>>137648181
Forgot a few more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY4aJzJlMuI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa41_1h2dCE
>>137647273
>He has to sacrifice himself to save the world from his own massive fuckups
Father of the year everyone
>>137645853
Mind telling us where we can find it?
>>137645984
Of course it is. The first 34 drawing is never the best.
>>137648181
>Sky Bablyon, Act 1
Literally the final boss music from Splatoon.
>>137649186
https://e621.net/post/index/1/hearlesssoul
>>137649560
Anon, I have some news for you.
>>137649560
Did you check the rest, and try to spot references?
>>137642927
They'd look like the OVA humans, I think.
>captcha: churchill cres
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgmhU2FmOq8
>>137648181
>Vs. Character
fucking unlimited kek
>>137649951
Yes. About three seconds after I posted, in fact.
The internet is a beautiful place.
Post best Knuckles
>>137617510
>talking about the games
>not talking about your OC's
>not talking about gay robot sex with your OC's
Nah, this ain't /mmg/
>>137598594
>>137612121
I think I phrased my post wrong.
The comics couldn't use Rockman Shadow. So instead the comics literally just used Quint in his place, for all of the five panels he appeared in
>>137651693
S'up, bitches? Still miss me?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnlXPSfH0Hg
>>137652042
>>137648181
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLFQbJWE0g
Oh the joke is that he made it good.
I was honestly expecting Flintstones or Snow Halitation.
>>137652979
Damn that's good.
>>137647049
>"Don't be shy Blaze, I'm a girl too. Let me see how much you've grown now!"
>>137645853
>still no porn of the Nauguses
such wasted potential
>>137648373
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa41_1h2dCE
Guilty pleasure.
Has the right amount of emo songs, buttrock and distorted lyrics
>>137654005
In time.
>>137654005
>Wendy tries to use Eggman to repopulate the troll race
>>137654005
>>137654930
We already have handsome!Naugus. Sexy!Wendy when?
>>137653624
Give D the D
>>137652073
Counterpoint - imagine Scourge's lines as voiced by Jaleel White.
>>137650089
Realistic anime humans like Sara in a cartoony world is backwards as shit.
Hesse's Classic Sonic design for the Classic Sonic comic.
Opinions?
>>137660709
>Sara
>realistic
I get what you mean, but for me it fits fine. It's also totally normal from a Japanese perspective, but they don't have the same history of cartoon animals America does.
>>137660735
Yes
>>137658669
I imagine his lines as Adam from Workaholics.
>>137660735
It's a Sonic.
>>137660735
Perfect. Hesse was the perfect artist to get for this comic
>>137660735
I like it. Keeps the coolness Sonic always had, which I felt Generations kind of dropped for Classic in some respects.
>>137660735
That sheer disrespect for Knuckles is great. He really had no chops until Adventure.
>>137660709
>realistic
>anime
Anime is Japanese cartoons.
>>137660735
>>137661160
Here's Knux
>>137661592
Wow, these look really good!
>>137662404
These look like Hesse's work so it should otherwise I would be lead to believe he either had a stroke or has a problem with his hand.
>>137660837
It doesn't fit fine at all. Sara is designed completely differently than the Sonic characters. Realistic body-proportions and facial features versus cartoony ones. Something isn't right here.
>>137660735
>>137661592
I like how he doesn't make them unnecessarily cutesy and therefore completely contradictory to their own personalities like Generations and every fan-artist on the face of the planet do.
Post best final boss music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVz7QTzeqS4
>>137660735
>>137661592
>It's coming tomorrow
Can't wait!
>>137664807
Technically it is a final boss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYn-ipADKJ4
>>137664962
Tomorrow isn't July.
>>137664962
Thanks, Doc.
>>137665175
Fuck...I didn't even realize. I ordered it last month and didn't see the July, just 6th and got hype.
Oh well, only 3 more months.
>>137664139
>tfwI can't for the life of me resist their cutesy versions
>>137665554
>3 months for Megadrive
>3 months for that Japan Sonic converions
>4 months for the American Buttrock party & Sonic news
Man I wish I the power cord to my GameCube, I don't think I've fed my chao for 9 years
>>137665898
Don't you have a Wii?
>>137667565
Don't know how that picture got uploaded.
All recent ideas have now been added to the wall.
>>137669232
Thanks
Is espio a good character ? Does he deserves more spotlight ?
|spoiler]Are the chaotix an unofficial gay couple with charmy as their surrogate child ?[/spoiler]
>>137670172
Vector just keeps Charmy around for the tax benefits.
>>137670172
Espio has been in a surprising number of side-games and I'd definitely say he's one of the more popular characters.
>>137670172
Espio's pretty decent. Never really paid too much attention to him though
>I don't even play runners that much anymore but okay
>>137670539
X MORE DAYS UNTIL ADVENTURE 3
>>137670172
Yes. YesYesGambling Addict Espio is best Espio
>>137670539
What song is it?
>>137670812
An instrumental version of Live and Learn, with a guitar riff replacing the vocals.
>>137667565
Nope, though I may buy Sonic Adventure 2 again on 360
>>137670172
Espio is a fun character, i really liked him in the fighters tournament arc
>>137670539
>Sonic Adventure Music Experience
>Join the Adventure!
>Sonic Adventure events on Runners
It's clearly a third Storybook game. Screencap this.
>>137671857
>>137661284
>tfw you'll never be hugged by giant fluffy were-Amy
>>137670172
>>137670361
>>137670797
As a brit it is so weird to see Chaotix as their post Heroes Mighty-less formation.it's also kinda weird to have the team referred to as their game title, and really shouldn't knuckles be a part of the team before it's REALLY chaotix if we're honest? Chaotix is like Knuckles side project band where he got really experimental and it got a small but cult following but everyone went on to do better things.
>>137673581
>Nack working with the Chaotix
I know he betrays them obviously but fuck, my sides.
>>137670797
>goes to a casino
>loses less than five bucks
HE'S OUT OF CONTROL
>>137673581
The official explanation(from Iizuka)is that the Chaotix from Heroes aren't the same characters from the 32x game.
>>137674267
The Chaotix don't have any more money than five bucks though
>>137674267
Five bucks is a lot to the Chaotix, man. They need a serious windfall pronto.Vector is a more responsible parental figure than Sonic is to Tails.
>>137674609
You what.
>>137675337
Iizuka apparently said something akin to the games aren't canon to each other, so the characters aren't the same from game to game.
>>137675337
http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Chaotix#Trivia
>According to Takashi Iizuka, the Team Chaotix invented in Sonic Heroes were recreated as new characters from the same characters in Knuckles' Chaotix when Sonic Heroes was designed, ignoring certain traits that had been established in Knuckles' Chaotix that would have contradicted their intent in the game.[
>>137675580
you know what this means, right?
CHAOTIX FOREVER, WHEN?!
I want Fleetway Chaotix to meet Heroes Chaotix, end up spilling into Archie Chaotix until they discover Nack is going to destroy the mulitverse by destroying the 32x dimension.he succeeds and the chaotix everyone knows now are bumbling dumbasses. BAD END.
>>137675862
>Nack
>Succeeding
u wot m8
>>137674684
Sonic is more a older brother figure
>>137675934I found out that this artist is elusive as FUCK about their work.
>>137675337
Knuckles' Chaotix is considered non-canon by Sonic Team, as it was developed by another internal branch at Sega. Iizuka considers them separate characters, and helped create new personalities for them, both to act as foils to Sonic and to help insert them into Sonic Heroes' story easier.
>>137673818
I wonder...
Forgot to post this earlier.
>>137678195
Oh hey DoodleAnon. While you're here, mind whipping up a Maw to match the Abyss you did last time?
>>137671568
Why is Nicole so lewd?
>>137677853
Tights are love.
>>137678995
Damn straight.
>>137679917
Man I want to see what Clove does in Eggman's dozen.
>>137678195
>shoes and a bandana
Notta.
>>137678846
Lewd Nicole is Best NicoleIf you have more colorless pictures I'll try to make more colored ones, with a touch more lewdness
>>137681214
Be careful with your coloring though. Nicole's mouth up there looks pretty off compared to the original.
>>137678846
>visible vag
>>137678195
What does Bean's voice sound like?
>>137681612
Woody Woodpecker.
>>137681612
Master Shake
>>137681612
Someone before said he read him as jontron and I can't stop reading Bean in his voice so I guess that for me.
>>137681348
I gave up on the mouth after awhile, since I just couldn't get it right. Some of my other ones like the sally one turned out much better
>>137682179
I can't even parse how that would sound but I'm sure going to try
>>137678846
>>137681214
>lewd nicole being best nicole
Really?
>forgetting to post the image.
Guys.. this is for the fucking options menu..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8DUT9TKLe8
>>137683328
Shame about the rest of the game.
>>137683442
Nice meme assfuck. The game was good
>>137678846
She's a catgirl, my man. A catgirl that has 24-hour internet access, and nothing better to do with her time.
>>137683753
>ZG
>good
Nah, fuck that. I'd rather play the original if I'm gonna be honest here.
>>137683753
>getting this salty over fucking Zero Gravity, of all games
The game was mediocre. It's absolutely a 5/10 at its best.
https://youtu.be/Q27sBUpzVKU
>>137683921
your whore mother's a 5/10 at best. I don't mind shitty opinions but don't speak like it's fact, piece of shit
>>137683893
I think I'm getting the gist of why you fucks don't like it. Top kek
>>137684461
>>137684295
>>137683753
Has it been three days already?
>>137683001
>>137683154
What is your favorite Nicole?
>>137684461
And I'm getting the gist of why you're being such a faggot.
You're the same shitter that was shitposting a few days ago and that image is proof. Same filename, size, and dimensions. Fuck off outta here, m8.
>>137683753
Filter here, ignore further shitposting. Let's stay above it this time, okay /sthg/?
>>137684702
I'd say report for good measure so he doesn't eat up the post and image limit as well.
>>137681612
Kinda fond of this one.
https://youtu.be/tNTPMzlDLIw
>>137684781
Reports should go without saying, but you're right.
>>137684823
Damn those are pretty good
>>137684823
Bean I can live with, but I really can't get a handle on that Nack. It's trying to juggle too much at once.
>>137684823
>scr-uh-ples
>>137683328
I'm 20 minutes in and I listened to it the entire time I did this. I blame you for both anon.
>>137684823
I always envisioned Nack having a higher pitched voiceAlso the mispronunciations are setting me off.
>>137685008
GIMMIE
>>137684823
>>137684969
Yeah that's a little too much Dr. Mrs the Monarch for Nack.
>>137684969
>>137684979
>>137685075
Yeah desu I'm not super fond of the Nack in this, mind you I don't buy into the 'he's Aussie/Kiwi' headcanon that most people do thanks to his dialogue pre-reboot. My voice for him is more along the lines of Gren from The Wolf Among Us, but maybe at a slightly lighter tone.
>>137683328
This might be divisive but I always loved this for options music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGWSijvWxFI
>>137685008
you're welcome
>>137685109
Exactly this, combined with the Sniper.
>>137685241
This anon knows what's up.
>>137683328
Anybody mashed this up with some Daft Punk yet? Because it should happen.
>>137685339
my ears. what the fuck
still decent
>>137685339
Good music (if a little too synth-y) on a meh game.
>>137648181
A lot of these are far better than they have any right to be
>>137664807
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNsGT2Pjug8
>>137685652
Just as garbage as the Rouge one.
>>137685720
Maybe even worse due to gorilla arms.
>>137685241
I read Nack as if he had Meowth's voice.
>>137685652
They should be commended for coming up with designs worse than those in Boom.
Well, commended's not really the right word, but whatever.
>>137685989
Slapped upside the head, maybe?
what would scourge's vocal theme be? Would it be a corruption of a sonic track, like a heavy metal bastardisation of His World or just like a snarky rework of something like Live and Burn or Close your Heart?
>>137678846
She is so candid. That's why.
Her innocence and the way she acts can be seen an unwittingly promiscuitous.
It makes the thread's collective dick HARD.
>>137676114
>drill man getting hit with his weakness
its the little things
>>137686149
>heavy metal bastardisation of His World
I didn't know I wanted this. Sounds akin to Scourge though
>>137685109
he also sounded like Spike from Tom&Jerry and Dingo from Gargoyles in one of the lines.
Yoou know, with all the cringy fan arts we got of sonic over the last 25 years or so, you would think someone would have got the cringe as far enough as sonic , WW2 style.
I need the cringe, and sonic fucking up an hitler like robotnik complete with giant robot and exterminatated echidnas as jews, for extra penders points.
Yeah,basically wolfenstein : sonic edition. But fuck my life, that'd be cool.
>>137686948Go to bed Fatoler.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrCGk0BE7RA
>>137686948
>and exterminatated echidnas as jews, for extra penders points.
I though the dingoes were the jews
>>137687579
Penders rule number 1 : If it's a minority, they are jews, no tact nor execption.
Everyone is jew in eggmanland.
>>137685652
This person has a bad case of "decent sonic heads on poorly drawn bodies." It shows they don't have much experience in figure drawing dealing with proportions. Yes indeed, that extends to cartooning as well.
>>137688125
That last point needs to be emphasized a lot more often than it is.
>>137683328
>tfw looping this and STILL listening to it
Goddamn why is it so GOOD?
Haven't been here in a week. What's been going on?
>>137690535
Sonic Universe 83 finally came out, and not much else
>>137690590
You are a blessing abt. A true blessing
>>137690535
Deliveries, anon. So many deliveries.
>>137690590
>nightly reminder from ABT to step up your drawing studies.
Goshdang I gotta focus on getting them sonic style proportions down.
What in the fuck is with Barby's sash? It's just a loop of fabric belted at the waist, but it's only hanging down her left side. How does that even stay on?
>>137690913
Nanites, son
>>137686149
>just like a snarky rework of something like Live and Burn or Close your Heart?
I see more of this. His "Scourge Adventure" theme would be "I Only Matter" and his team in "Scourge Villains" would have something like "You Can't".
>>137690913
I remember an artist or two fucked it up and drew it as a sash over one breast with a same-color skirt.I preferred it like that.
>>137687579
>I though the dingoes were the jews
They were nazis first, and the echidnas were the jews.
Then the Dark Legion became the nazis and the dingoes were the jews.
>>137690590
Awesome. I love her =3 smiles.
Do you think Game!Eggman should have more minions? Not like Archie!Eggman's Egg Army per say, but just more loyal minions of his own.
>>137690590
Nice, I like her design. BTW dude some kid on tumblr was throwing a fit because you didn't show up at a con or something. So congrats on the success of reaching the levels of having fanbrats I guess.
>>137691368
I think what he has now works. If you wanted to make him a dictator then yeah more minions would be viable, but as he is now, I think Orbot and Cubot suffice
>>137690913
No one actually knew what she was supposed to look like. Sometimes she had a dark tummy area. Other times it was a bodysuit like Bunnie's. Sometimes she had a skirt. Or a sash. Or nothing. Sometimes she had wolverine/Knuckles claws and sometimes just pointy fingertips. They didn't give a shit.
>>137690913
>>137692248
That image (and her appearance in that SU arc) were the closest she ever came to a consistent design. Otherwise, yeah, shit was never the same from issue to issue. An artist could draw her however they wanted because who the fuck even cared, it was only the Pedo Koala.
>>137692248
I'd like to think if Barby came back for any reason, her new design would be largely unchanged from her last one, but with the "Bunnie bodysuit" that artists accidentally drew her with. She'd look decent with that.
>being a sonic fan
TIME TO PUT THIS TO REST
>>137687316Come on now, I always capitalise my proper nounsHowever, I'd be lying if I said I didn't have thoughts of putting Robotnik in Mecha-Hitler's suit. Also Doomguy and Sonic having a race, because I'm still pretty certain the former is faster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQsV2wqOniU
>https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tbird/the-summer-of-sonic-uk-fan-convention-one-more-run
THREE-QUARTERS FUNDED
Morning Bump!
>>137690590
Now that's what I'm talking about! Great work as always!
>>137702139
MorningSage
>>137701413
>morning DUFUS
ma nigga
>>137690590
If SC is the hero of /sthg/, abt is surely the treasure.
>>137652073
Nah
Never did and never will miss him
>>137670686
>10 days
I'll hold you onto that :^)
>>137681612
Hell
>>137686149
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMd23Yo3B8U
>>137690590
nice
which one, /sthg/?NOT SEXUALLY, just who has the better design, better personality, etc
>>137701112
Zero Suit Sally when?
>>137676114
>Rush and Skullman
>Ringman gag
>Grinds off of Buster Rod G's staff
So many little details in this page.
>>137705887
Both are meh imo. Relic would be a lot better without the one piece. The other just looks like a generic OC.
>>137704595
I need to get back into drawing after a week hiatus, any DUFUS reqs?
>>137705887
I like Relic more myself. I imagine her with a soft British accent.
>>137700537
It's really happening, isn't it?
>>137705887
Relic has the more entertaining personality as an individual, but Sonar and her group represent a very interesting viewpoint that I'd sooner like to see further explored than see Relic again.Also, Sonar is cuter.
>>137707574
>British accent
Isn't this basically canon? I'm pretty sure Ian confirmed it somewhere.
>>137708682
>Isn't this basically canon? I'm pretty sure Ian confirmed it somewhere.
If he's at SOS I'll ask him.
>>137708442
27 days to go, I'd say it's looking good.
>>137708682
Given that Relic is all but guaranteed to show up in the Knuckles/Amy story, I'd say that she'll more likely be seen first. I do wanna see the Dai Gurren FFs again soon though.
>>137706941
DUFUS attempting to blend in with a group of SWATbots
>>137709039
they are showing up this year too
>>137709961
They are? Bumblekast confirmation, I'm guessing?
>>137709961
>you lived long enough to meet senpai in person
So we've finally met all the nu-series Egg Bosses.
Who's your favorite?
>>137691368
Yes. If only to provide a bit of variety in the boss fights.
>>137712324
Top three are Kukku, Hood, and Clove so far. Once we get into the action who knows how that will change.
>>137712324
Thunderbolt
>>137690590
Bless your heart.
>>137712324
Thunderbolt
Conquering Storm
Kukku is on his own level, but I'll mention him anyway
>>137712324
I like Clove, but hopefully they'll ditch Eggman soon.
>>137680016
Dies.
>>137713309
Not for quite some time, I'm betting. They practically just got introduced.
>>137714704
Aren't all non human Sonic characters basically space furries?
>>137715864
I thought they evolved over the years?
>>137716682
We need more actual cute, fun Cassia art.
>>137716682
Her and her sister read a lot older to me. Why does Eggman put children in charge of major regional operations?
>>137717838
For the same reason a 15-year-old routinely kicks his ass. They're good enough at what they do that the age doesn't really matter.
>>137717838
Clove's an adult.
Cassia isn't an Egg Boss, but her sister gives her near equal authority among their ranks.
When?
>>137717838
Clove's like 19. Also, please remember that Sally is 15/16 depending and Bunnie hovers in a vauge area between 16 and 20, and even then only due to being married.
>>137717838
>>137718043
> Eggman worst enemy is a teenager
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zhPhow2EGE
>>137718140
Soon®
>>137716574I see her as being more aggressive in bed than shy. I see her sister as being more of the shy type
