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Previous Thread:
>>137320823
First for permadeath when?
reminder that #1 is best
Is there a skype group for EO yet?
>finally level up all the party (uneven exp)
>go to put the skill points into a few skills
>notice I have 5
Holy shit, how could I forget, five times, that I had available skill points?
>>137541959
1 > 4 > 2 > the rest
So how effective is the Shoguns instant death ability?
>>137542250
Instant death just shows bad game design, it needs to be balanced.
>>137542193
meant for >>137541729
>>137542352Stop.
Post your rarest EO
>inb4 2020 fag derailing the thread
>inb4 vitafags with their permadeath memeDelete this
>>137542580
Don't post pictures of my wife without permission.
>>137542580
Where's the fang?
>>137542580
Fang?
What fang?
>>137542518
>Post your rarest EO
anything with twitter filename. fucking twitter.
>>137541739
Don't steal her clothes, feng.
>>137542310
>Yes, in other fucking games, you mongoloid.
Of the same genre.
>So far the only argument you've put forward for how it's good design is "It adds more risk", which is flawed in an infinite number of ways, "Because it just is", and "Because I'd like it".
How is it bad game design? "Because it just is", and "Because I wouldn't like it"?
>It's like you're not even trying to do anything except shitpost.
It's like you're not even trying to do anything except shitpost.
>>137542871
>>137542716
It doesn't need any of that at all, that stuff just makes things easier, and easy things aren't generally worth doing. Theres nothing wrong with my suggestion of some enemies having a skill that has a low chance of perma death against party members that arent revived the same turn theyre hit with the move, and theres even less wrong with it if its an option you can toggle. I'm not saying "if a party member dies they should stay dead", im saying "there should be some instances where death is permanent."
Stop sperging already.
>>137542995
the best thing to come out of EO2
>>137542947
>>137543014
Fuck off to the previous thread vitafags
>>137542947
>>137543014
You have a perfectly good thread, don't bring your shit in here
>>137543004
What?
>>137542947
>Shitting up this thread with bullshit from the last
Stop. You're making yourself look autistic.
>>137542518
i made this a few months back when someone posted a japanese webapp for creating pixel avatars
>>137543130
>>137543154
>"I'm going to whine and call you names because I don't like what you say, stop trying to change my safe place"
This is discussion,a non, this is what generals are for. If you can't handle it, don't reply to it.
>>137542518
>>137543130
>>137543154
>>137543180
Jesus, why are you guys so emotionally invested? Does discussing something you don't like physically hurt you or something?
You're turning a normal discussion into a shitstorm, you're not in a position to complain about others ruining the thread.
>>137543159
>Janitor applications are now being accepted for the next ~48 hours. Apply here.
Maybe we can get rid of the fucking redditor for good.
>>137541739
Do you mind if I lick your fang?
>>137543443
Well, I expect people to defend a terrible suggestion with something more than just "I like it, kill yourself fucking casuals if you don't like what I like"
That anon is just straight shitposting.
>>137543651
As nice as they are, might want to delete those loli nipples, Anon.
>>137543651
I always thought the gunner's hat was a bit big in this one.
>>137543651
l-lewd
>>137543159
He's a crazy faggot from a while back. Not worth talking about beyond that.
>>137542518
>>137543727
>That anon is just straight shitposting.
Again, you need to accept that there is more than one person not having the same opinion as you and posting something you don't like isn't shitposting. I really don't get why you people can't understand this.
Arguments more than "I like it" were given. And please stop with the strawmen, nobody wrote "I like it, kill yourself fucking casuals if you don't like what I like".
It's not a terrible suggestion at all and really doesn't justify this butthurt reaction.
>>137543991
Then why would anyone mention him in the first place?
>>137544241
Okay. Give me a reason beyond it making only you have more fun
>>137543651
Is this what Transfer looks like?
>>137544115
Delete this. Disgusting Furfag.
>>137544440
Because the anonymous guy act the same way that tripfag did. Playing the victim game and shitposting a thread until it hit bump limit.
>>137543651
>>137544440
The way he argues is very very similar.
>>137509790
>>137544503
You really can't read?
>>137544590
>the anonymous guy
Who? Please point out the posts because I suspect "the anonymous guy" is just another fictional persona like Teachfag.
It happens a lot that people overestimate their identifying ability on anonymous imageboards which is why I warn them often to not do it in the first place.
>>137544791
Fuck you I'm not playing this game. Show me these great reasons of yours or get the fuck out
>>137544503
>>137544982
Try arguing for or against FJ, the retry option, not being able to save everywhere, petrify, story mode, ambushes etc. and see what happens.
>>137544982
Calm down, friend. Just read the discussion up until now.
>>137545309
That's not answering the fucking question anon.
>>137545401
>Just read the discussion
Yep, it's Magenta
Reminder to stay vigilant.
>>137545401
>Man there should be enemies that can permakill a character if they aren't immediately revived and it autosaves the death?
>Can't you just delete a character if they die?
>No I don't want to
>>137545606
I don't even know who that guy is but I remember someone mention him before in a similar manner.
Please show me some posts of that guy.
Is he a native english speaker? Because I'm not and I'm pretty sure this is obvious.
>>137545730
Man, I just wanted to have fun and talk about EO
>>137545730
fucking /vp/
>>137546009
Then tell me why I should run 2 Beasts in my team next run of EO2U.
>>137545481
Arguments for game mechanics boil down to that.
It's pretty hypocritical to only call out one side.
>>137545730
I don't remember seeing this here before
>>137546101
Because you are the true animal king anon, and you need your left and right fist
>>137546239
Good enough.
I'm doing itunless I decide to do Story mode for the first time.
>>137546101
Because they're cool as fuck, that's why.
>>137546182
That's still not answering the fucking question anon. What are these reasons you were talking of?
>>137546101
Beasts have attacking skills as well as cover skills, alternatively two beasts can cover for two specific squishies if you choose to run a frontline with shit for defenses for whatever reason.
>>137545730
>>137546009
Are you guys really that retarded? Don't you realize that posts like these are the reason why shitstorms happen in the first place?
It was a normal discussion, you need to calm down.
This really reminds me of neuters getting triggered by lawfags but I can at least somewhat understand those guys for getting emotional.
No developer of EO is gonna bother reading these shitty threads. Nothing happens when we discuss things like this.
>>137545876
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/username/MagentaKrayons/
>>137546407
You're ridiculous, dude.
>>137546205
It's when we had a resident furry that would dump bushi pics because we would post "loli shit"
>>137546349
>unless I decide to do Story mode for the first time
>>137546680
This obviously isn't all because the rest were without his name and trip, but it should give you a good idea.
>>137546680
Are you guys really getting upset over 11 fucking posts?
Please point out the similarities between my posts and the posts of that guy because I don't see them. Also while you're at it point out my posts in the last thread.
Okay
Let's be real.
Most permadeath games have ugly artstyle or worst, western artstyle.
Himukai's girls are so cute that they cannot be affected by permadeath, they can't!
I agree with the perma death stuff, but only for main bushi class...and male characters
>>137546916
I'm not upset, I'm just giving info. I'm unrelated to the whole discussion.
>>137546923
>>137546738
The faggot with the 5 bushi run who keep crying about how unfun his life was?
>>137547016
My bad then.
I just don't get why people in generals always want to assign posts to personalities like these. It defeats the point of anonymity.
I also don't get why this stuff always happens to me. I got called beadman before even though my writing style and his really aren't similar.
>>137546923
Now I want someone to post that EO2 art of the female party wipe with the female gunner looking at the sprout as the light leaves her eyes
>>137547846
you mean this one?
>>137548157
Thank you
>>137548157
Is that from the artbook?
>>137548406
fan art
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=40338943
I wished the portrait art changed with the subclass
>>137548505
Oh god these are brutal
>>137548607
Everyone is subbed Ninja or rarely Shogun in art.
Just so they can use the damn mask
>>137548157
I love this shit. Are there any others like this? I swear I once saw one with impaling
>>137548896
Zodiac arbalist would look cute trying to lift that big ass crossbow
>>137548607
I know.
But it is impossible.
Just imagine Untold 2 had 15 classes, that mean that 1 character need at least 14 differents portraits. (If they added subclasses to that game)
Does anyone have the other images of this set?
>>137549252
Come on, that would be only 840 portraits in total
>>137548896
Ninja is a great sub though, and Z/N is fun.
>>137549642
>It's not tagged with 'confusion'
fucking japs
>>137549642
You can just look the artist pixiv pics until you find it.
pic related
>>137549883
>>137550861
wat?
>>137550861
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
>>137550861
>thumbnail
well aint that something
>>137550861
not again goddamnit
>>137550861
Some thread on /pol/ just got derailed by an image of a cute girl who's about to explode.
>>137550861
Mein seiden
>>137549642
Coincidentally, it's the same artist who does most of that that guro we've been posting.
>>137551076
>zodiacs are isis
>>137550861
Shiiiieeet
Dismiss Heal
>>137553643
I want to hug a stick elf.
>>137553643
Do book weapons boost elemental damage?
>>137553917
No, elements on a weapon are for their normal attacks
>>137553917
I want to break the law with that pirate
which EO has your favorite soundtrack?
>>137553801
Delete this.
>>137549642
>Album didn't have any more panicked people pictures
Oh well.
>>137554647
>Their own Brand of Justice
>Calling that Detestable Name
>The End of Raging Waves
>The Vengeful God in the Dark Ocean Abyss
Easily EO3
>>137553917
No, but most of them raise TEC. Forging elements onto a weapon adds that elemental damage type to that weapon's standard attacks and most chasers(including Kaishaku for grabbing certain conditionals or blocking it with Elemental Parry).
>>137546923
You know what's more fun than permadeath?
Just playing the game without warp wires.
>>137554647
3 has best battle themes.
U and 2U overall though.
>>137555470
>untold of all things
I bet FM synth is too cool for you, eh?
>>137555648
The arranges of the stratum themes are so good though.
Unlike the battle themes, I almost always want to have new-style for the stratum themes.
>>137554647
Probably 3. Just because I can mentally remember more songs than any other game.
>>137555648
>being this mad because someone has a different opinion
>>137555648
FM is shit. Even NES' waves sound better.
>>137555648
I was listening to the EO4 OST at work last week and it really is actually pretty great. Like, it's better than most other RPG soundtracks. I think I was kind of biased when I first played it because I was really bitter about the FM being gone.
Would you?
>>137555828
Untold's remixes were pretty good.
For U2 the only tracks I bother with listening to outside of FM Synth are the new tracks and Shiver, and in Shiver's case that's mostly because they took it in a different direction from the original theme, most of the other remixes felt like weak attempts at trying to recreate the FM sounds without adding anything interesting.
>>137556612
The new music for the Heavenly Keep is incredible though.
>>137556612
>For U2 the only tracks I bother with listening to outside of FM Synth are the new tracks and Shiver
>This is actually almost the exact opposite for me
>>137556937
Is it just me, or is the Untold music for Heavenly Keep sort of similar to the Untold music for Lost Shinjuku in certain places?
>>137556963
Yeah actually the new tracks are a LOT better in FM.
I turned on FM every time I went to Ginnungagap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgQ0RmP0x_I
>>137557047
https://youtu.be/ZB3sf7GNAf4
>>137557113
that sounds like shit though
>>137557264
Compared to >G U I T A R S
it's much better imo.
https://youtu.be/5Z-jr-WAK5E
>>137557676
not really, at least the guitars makes it sound menacing and very powerful, whereas the fm version sounds like a watered down version and it sounds like shit
>>137557676
>>137557113
Same with Betting It All
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKX6fkODFQg
>>137557868
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpSdWVD3k3g
>that little Shining Force-esque trill at 0:15 that's not in the normal version
FM a best
>>137557868
>>137558184
jesus fuck, I'm glad I didn't leave the fm option on, after listening to the originals these sound so damn empty it's not even funny
I guess it would have been fine if they were the originals, but they aren't
also, the part at 0:15 is there in the original, maybe you just can't hear it
>>137557113
>>137557868
>>137558184
These all sound like shit though.
>>137558463
It's like Yuzo lost his touch with the FM synths (I think I read somewhere that he doesn't like them anymore?), because emptiness wasn't a problem before, especially not in EO3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPvBxglPNRI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_0TeykT5NA
>>137558704
The FM synth versions from the Untold games aren't by him I think
They are better than the normal versions though, FM just makes everything better even if it's done amateurishly, and guitars are so passe it's painful.
>>137558463
>also, the part at 0:15 is there in the original
No it's not, it's a solid held note in the worse version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agvs8B7LX2o
>>137558704
Their own brand of justice is by far my favorite song from EO3. I really hope EO3U is made someday because I just wanna hear his version of it non-fm synth.
>>137558996
I can hear it just fine. It's a background Flute, although it's a bit overshadowed by the Oboe that plays the main melody.
https://youtu.be/zCUZ0vWQaZ8
vs
https://youtu.be/g6AWATf4TWU
Other then the part that starts at around 0:35 for the second, I like the first better
>>137558184This is one I'd actually say is better new-style
>>137558854
>FM just makes everything better
eeeeeeehhh
I wouldn't generalize it like that.
>>137558996
It blends into the other instruments but it's there.
>>137559296
See, that's actually a good example of an FM version that can compete with the original. The percussion sounds awesome, something that can't be said for the other songs.
>>137558184
This song like complete dog shit compared to the real instruments
>>137559601
Wait
>1:28
Nevermind, I take that back.
>>137559964
To be fair, that's probably the weakest part in both songs.
>>137541729
3>1>the rest>>>>>>literal shit>5
>>137553643
I literally cannot imagine what she looks like naked
how do her legs work
>>137559296
That song is shitty either way
>>137561495
Just imagine a skeleton with a thin layer of flesh.
>>137546101
>not going with a tiger, a wolf, a panda, and two bears
>>137561495
They actually hide all their body fat in their butts.
>>137562776
Why is she poisoned?
>>137563504
Because you told her to swallow.
>>137555085
You're forgetting some important ones
>Chalky woods
>Hoist the sword with pride in the heart
EO3 definitely the best though, in both number and quality of songs.
I still died :(
>>137553643
Upskirt when
>>137565871
Sticks are for hugging, not lewding.
this is slightly off-topic and not EO, but given how nice Persona Q's dungeons looked I'd really like to see a Yume Nikki themed EO-style game. The dream setting would make for some interesting designs.
>page 9
also,
>finally unlocked subclasses in EO4
Should I rest my Runemaster and sub something onto her, or just wait for Imperial?
>>137570529
>>137570529
Sub Bushi on her
>>137570649
>>137570669
thanks famalamwhen the heck is Whirlwind going to betray me, I can feel it any day now
>>137571232literally now
>>137570529
Depend in how do you want to build your Runemaster.
Active damage boost while your HP is decreasing or passive damage boost.
sure is a slow night
>>137573321
That's what happens when autists sperg out and kill off potential discussion
>>137573725
Why not ignore them, EO and 7D are best friends.
>>137543651
>janitors don't even care about this thread
War revive
>>137574785
Someone posted up webm with lolis dancing in naked cape in the last thread and you are complaining right now? Go to sleep, Ricky.
>>137575239
F-Fuck I forgot to watch that
>>137575239
Don't buly Ricky, okay?
>>137575321
https://a.uguu.se/apngzr.webm
This?
Post best Ninja.
>>137576628
>>137576628
But she cannot be the best when she's the only one.
>>137574785
Full frontal plant nudity was left up the entire thread a couple generals back, it's pretty much proven by this point.
>>137541739
>>137578903
Best by default.
>>137575239
Was it the webm with the two hexers playing with balls of light or whatever?
>>137579368
delete this
>>137579368
what does that say?
>>137580891
its right here >>137576128
>>137580978
Fang
>>137541564
Medical Miracle
>that TP
Cry until I die
>>137556442
Would.
Himukai is suspiciously way too good at making traps.
It's not even one of those draw a girl call it a boy type things either.
>>137585832
>It's not even one of those draw a girl call it a boy type things either.
But that's exactly what it is. He gives them features that are characteristic of the females he draws.
>>137586268
No you just can't tell what is a "boyish" pre-pubecent features...
Stuff like face shape and shoulder length can set 2 genders apart pretty easily, something not many artists incorporate when drawing traps.
>>137571232
I went back and forth between thinking he was going to betray me when I first played. What happened washe kidnapped a child, stole a crown and a rock, tried to kill youre party twice, then you get the options of giving him mercy, telling him his prince needs him, or outright killing him.If you choose ot kill him, he doesnt die.
>>137587676But people die when they're killed
>>137587775Not when they have plot armor.
Ricky
>>137586268
>But that's exactly what it is. He gives them features that are characteristic of the females he draws.
Is there an easier way to make money in 3 then grinding out collection points with maxed out farmers? The special equipment is 250,000 each and I'm only making 5000 a trip with double chop and keen nose
>>137576128
Could someone reupload this somewhere? It's gone.
>>137594453
If you are only making 5000 per trip, that mean you are low level and you "shouldn't" use that weapon yet.
>>137596251
Well yeah I'm in the third stratum. I used formahyde to get the special boss drops. Plus the sea exploration is a huge money drain
>>137594453
Post-game with pasarans in 29F.
Playing EOU (classic) and Ronin is so squishy I kinda regret having one. Need to use front guard like every turn or she is dead, sometimes even with. There are so many skills as well, what am I supposed to prioritize?
Picture is to grab attention
>>137599668
>Need to use front guard like every turn or she is dead
That's something I do probably every turn with protector anyway.
>>137599668
You won't be doing anything else with that protector most of the time anyways.
As for prioritizing, you want to choose one stance or two and invest on it. Swallow Strike is popular, but it's not the only option.Source?
Following up on last night's FM synth vs. live music discussion, I'm pretty shocked at how, unlike in EO1 & EO3, a lot of songs in EO2 sound better with DS sounds than FM synth
Compare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5rZbFBaupc (PC-88)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzBiq3r-L7o (DS)
Does anyone still have that "why do people shitpost?" pasta? I kinda need it somewhere else.
>>137541959
>uneven exp
How do you live with yourself?
>>137602973
Should be in the archive
>>137541959
Happens to me all the time if/when I'm tearing through a dungeon, if my party has no problems advancing why bother allocating skill points? Only when I feel I need extra help I use them up the instant they're available. In EO3 especially, though, my party was just so efficient at cleaning up random mobs and getting passive heals from Princess that I ended up with over 5 points per character several times.
>>137541959
Happens to me later in the game all the time. In Mystery Dungeon, the first time I played, I didn't know that the units that stayed back in the guild got some experience as well until I was at the 3rd dungeon and they all were like level 12 by then.
>>137541959
Happens to me all the time.
Unless I'm about to get something pretty or important (like a level 5), I won't bother going to the custom page after every level up.
Hypnosis in EMD is ridiculous, my protector just completely stripped out of her armor and then threw a warp wire at my hexer
>>137601601
Seriously? Bass drowns freaking everything in the DS version, and the highs PC-88 are much better. In general I would also say that the balance is somewhat off in the DS rendition.
Are you sure you're not just really attached to the electric guitars, which are much more pronounced in the DS?
Can someone explain me the Story of "Hall of Darkness" in EO IV? I dont get it. The Scientiest goes full hikki and shit happens?
>>137609347
Environment go to shit and the took refuge on the hall.
When things calm down, they go out and see that the little food they can find is poisonous to them.
Purificating resources is not enough.
They create a race to work outside that can eat poisonous food instead of their valuable purified one, these are Sentinel.
They need a race with more brains, they create Vessel.
They find a way to make Vessel that don't eat at all, they create Hollows despite warnings from the Vessel.
They come up with their own version of the Yggdrasil Project to purify the land.
They notice that the tree might go berserk and purify a bit too much.
In case that happens, some people suggest creating a beast that could destroy Yggdrasil. Others think it's a stupid idea.
They do it anyways.
They can't control the beast so they must lock it down (not sure if this last part was mentioned).
Now more efforts are put in dealing with the Yggdrasil-dealing-method than on dealing with Yggdrasil.
Yggdrasil does go berserk and shit that the Sentinel and Vessel told you about happened.
???? killed everyone remaining at the shelter.
>>137609109
>Are you sure you're not just really attached to the electric guitars, which are much more pronounced in the DS?
Eh, maybe, the PC-88 version just sounds so quiet in comparison.
How does Sunlight work in EO I?
So Stratum VI is INSIDE the Yggdrasil Tree Roots?
What exactly is Primevil? Something like Lavos?
>>137613124
>What exactly is Primevil?
The core of Yggdrasil, corrupted into a hideous monster by all the pollution the tree absorbed.
>How does Sunlight work in EO I?
Just as clueless about that myself.
>>137556128
this should be cropped more
>>137613124
My best guess.
I'm more lost about High Lagaard, since that one is mostly inside the fucking trunk.
EO I: Forest People (Plant Monsters like Alraune)
EO II: Bird People (Tengu? Monsters like Harpyie)
EO III: Ayy lmaos or more like Fish People?
EO IV: Sentinals (Twig Elves) & Sentinals (Furrys)
Etrian Odyssey: Monster Squad when?
>>137615710
EO3's are shark people.
>>137613124
Magic light-producing spores, weird reverse photosynthesis, your guess is as good as any.
Final Boss in the 6 Stratum of EO VI
>>137616350
>this isn't even its final form
>>137616350
Final boss is Nidhogg as a bug.
>>137616679
Again?
>>137616350
is lavos a visual allusion to female genitalia
how did I never notice this
Guys... what is High Laggards Yggdrasil Tree Core?
Urchild? He was created by the Overlord. BTW Overlord in EOII he mentioned always a Woman. I always think that Urchild is that Woman or Urchild is the Overlords Child and his wife got really pissed of about it.
>>137618236
They expand that in EOU2
>>137618236
Cute moth.
>>137618082
u wot m8?
>>137613124
It's the fucking WORLD tree.
>>137619538
What tree?
>>137615710
literally never because only neckbeards and degenerates like monster races
The cosplayers can stay.
>>137620916
>literally never because only neckbeards and degenerates like monster races
>neckbeards
>degenerates
Return to your safe space zone you fiend.
>>137620916
>The cosplayers can stay
Back to the scumhole you came from.
>>137620916
So what, are we talking sexualising or just in general? Cause if it's the latter then you're kinda missing the point of a fantasy/scifi setting buddy.
>>137622135
>fantasy/scifi setting
is for neckbeards
>>137622302
video games are for neckbeards
Monstergirls are pretty great. Especially if you can hit that sweet spot in the design where they're not at all furry, but not cosplay tier either.
>>137622302
>>137620916
>calling other people neckbeards
>he post on 4chan
>>137622549
This is definitely more on the furry side.
>>137622750
It's definitely more monstrous, but you can't really call it furry at all. If it had a weird muzzle structure on the face, then definitely.
But a face can usually make or break the design anyway. Just look at the female bushi, for example.
>>137623225
So that's why bunny bushi is vastly superior to doge bushi?
>>137623831
That's why bunny bushi was the less disgusting bushi. The other 3 are 100% furry.
>>137623831
Pretty much. You could still put forward the argument that it's furry, just by way of the button nose, but wherever or not you think that, it's still better just because her facial structure is 100% human.
I guess the bunny bushi is pretty much like this character from that monstergirl manga you might hear about occasionally. She's got fur and a button nose, but you can argue wherever or not she's a furry, and you'll have equally valid points, I think.
>>137624543
>it's still better just because her facial structure is 100% human.
You meant to say 100% ayyy, because 100% 3DPD would be disgusting as fuck.
>>137624757
Nobody's talking about 3DPD here anyway. What point are you trying to make?
>>137624543
>Pretty much. You could still put forward the argument that it's furry, just by way of the button nose
Still like 80% furry.
It just so happens that a bunny-like face structure for a furry is so much more similar to a human's than the other options.Plus she's a himeko
>>137623831
Cute boys
