>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: http://www.dota2.com/news/updates/21084/
New players: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
Wiki: http://www.dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: http://blog.dota2.com/
Lore: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides:
http://pastebin.com/HGURXpwg
Cosmetic simulator:
http://d2armory.com/
Competitive Scene: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page
>STATISTICS
Competitive DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.datdota.com/
DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.dotametrics.wordpress.com/
Personal statistics: http://www.dotabuff.com/
Personal statistics#2: http://yasp.co
Hero stats: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/
Hero and DPS calculator: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/
>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/
http://www.gosugamers.net/
https://www.reddit.com/r/dota2/
http://www.liquiddota.com/
livestreamer GUI: https://github.com/bastimeyer/livestreamer-twitch-gui
>BETTING
Cosmetic items: http://dota2lounge.com/
Does anyone want to play some games?
when's all pick coming back
>>137221676
Apparantly, that's a "reddit" mode now, so we shouldn't play it.
>>137221676
All pick is permanently removed from Ranked MatchmakingApril fools
IF YOU PICK INVOKER
YOU'RE A FILTHY FAGGOT
>>137221807
Dota is a reddit game. Are you saying we should stop playing Dota too?
Anyone up for a game of Dota 2?
>>137221179
i just looked at the hero pool and i feel comfortable playing 92 heroes at any mmr
>>137222008
>>137221827
>>137221676
>>137221557
WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE MOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
>>137221676
When Valve gets enough feedback from Reddit on how to add the mode that lets players ban only the heroes that hurt feelings, like Techies, Storm Spirit, and FOTM MMR-grinding heroes. Generally anything that makes supports sad.
>looking at my 3 meepo games
>the first loss was against literally no counters and they had fucking anti mage
>the second loss was when I got meme'd on with level 1 rosh and memepush end before 15 minutes and I don't know how to deal with that
>the fucking victory
>was in High Skill, not normal like usual
>and I was against ET, Both ES and Pudge
what the fuck
does getting countered make you better at the game?
>>137222008
>tfw you play on a different region than me
>>137222129
Wanna know how I can tell you're 2k?
If Dota 2 isn't a dying game then how come we don't have Solo queue when League does?
>>137222331
the fact that I said I play most of my games in a bracket that's below 3.2k and that means that's it's very likely that I'm in 2k because <2k is an incredibly small percentile?
>>137222061
Well then good for you I guess. You're one of the lucky ones. Unfortunately not everyone is as versatile at their picks as you. Most people get to where they are by getting really good at a few heroes that aren't necessarily FOTM trash, this number rarely goes over 10, let alone 50. More power to you for this, but a lot of people got absolutely fucked up by this update and are now faced with the choice of playing unranked or rolling dice for MMR.
>>137222440
??? they literally just removed it
>>137222603
i really don't think you should be playing ranked if you only can play 10 heroes
>social liberalism is the mature, understanding way in which to embrace individual differences, not according to ancient dogma or religious prejudice
so why arent you a liberal yet d2g?
>>137222851
>naivety is maturity
this meme again
>>137222851
>>137222851
Because Omniknight's always right and he says liberalism is for fucktards
>>137222928
and how am i naive in that sense?
>not according to ancient dogma or religious prejudice, but according to the ideals of humanity that have been cultivated by our experiences throughout history, summed up in that famous American maxim: with liberty and justice for all.
>>137222976
for all i know Omniknight is a fucking republican hypocrite
>>137222943
no
>>137222851
>Literally every statistic shows that areas with loose immigration laws has experienced increase in crime
>Let's just keep importing these guys by the truckload, I'm sure they would never do anything really bad, like attack a national landmark or something. They just have different cultural values!
>>137223121
>embrace individual differences
>no better or worse cultures just different :^)
child
>captain's mode pubs
1 game was enough to remind me why I never play captains mode pubs.
>>137223121
>he doesn't understand that his own view of history is grounded in his own culturally shaped values and ideas of history
>he thinks that there are "ideals of humanity" that are universal
kek. Stick to dota.
>>137223121
>>137223258
wat happen
SHOULD I LEARN EARTH SPIRIT
>>137223243
greentexting doesnt prove your point
>>137223236
im not about about the kek'd countries
im talking about the oppresed just because you had your life handed on silver plater
>>137223417
> ideas of history
read again,
> ideals of humanity that have been cultivated by our experiences throughout history
it keeps getting better progressively, in time
>>137223558
keep posting reaction image its really funny
>Went back into the BroxyBot stream VODs starting right after the MM change
Holy shit it's so funny watching literal children get assdevastated by a Techies pick absolutely destroying them. Seriously, it doesn't take a goddamn genius to figure out that if there were mines in the rosh pit the last three times you went there, there will probably be mines there the next time you go there.
At least I can watch these until Valve realizes that randomly deleting 61 heroes from the pool or leaving all the picks up to one person are two bad choices.
>>137223843
>the oppressed
and who exactly is being ''''''oppressed''''
>I'm gonna push bot solo instead of TPing to defend racks even though I'm a carry!
>Oh we lost racks? Doesn't matter I almost got bot tower
>Oh they took a second set of racks, dont worry almost got their's
>Oh they got megas
>Lose
Fucking people need to be put down I swear
>>137223843
>>137223558
>>137223417
>>137223236
>>137223121
>>137222976
>>137222943
>>137222928
>>137222851
ONLY ON D2G
Nice thread derailing
DOTA 2???????????
>>137223843
>better
there you go again.
>>137223872
Can't wait until you reach the Storm/Lina game.
>>137224005
this hit too close
I got PTSD flashbacks now from all those times I lost winnable games because of shit like this
>>137224049
>he doesnt want to progressively get better
let me guess, youre a support cuck too?
>>137223258
>>137224012
keep posting these
>>137223843
>>137224207
senpai, who's being oppressed?
>Can either engage in the stupidest political argument on the planet
or
>Can try to get a link to the broxybot twitch even though at this point it seems to be a meme to pretend that it doesn't exist
/d2g/ - Team Fortress 2 General 2
>>137223872
Where are the VODs at? I need to see them.
>>137224415
I thought broxybot got banned for revealing Valve's forced 50 mechanics; teaming you up with bots.
>you are sharing this very thread to filthy republicans
Should I get into this game? Lots of spare time at night. Have played before but it was a couple years back. Played dota in wc3 too. Pros/Cons from you guys? And don't tell me you hate the game, you clearly play it.
>>137224585
He's still under the radar, which makes sense given how /d2g/ seems to be protecting this one with their life. The guy who made the bot even wrote a script recently that autopicked Captain (until Valve changed that too).
>>137224642
>democrats on 4chan
>>137224642
>regressive lefty thinks he's human
>>137222851
>liberals literally cannot grasp the idea that some people cannot live together
What happens when a devout muslim meets a tranny?
>>137224732
>democrats
cant even distinguish political views now
only in d2g
>>137224779
devout muslim = republicans
tranny = leftists
Guess what
>>137224919
the mudshit beats the tranny to death? :^)
>>137224919
So... you're admitting that there are people that can't live together because the outlooks they have are inherently conflicting?
>>137225053
What happened?
>ti6 final
>gaben comes on stage
>spotlight is on him
>he raises 3 fingers
>a few heads in the crowd explode in anticipation
>" I would like to take this moment to announce a long awaited project of ours"
>Half the crowd passes out
>twitch gets ddosed because of chat
>"Today I would like to announce 3 new rubick immortals"
>ogre
>Get my conduct summary after going 2-8 W/L in the last ten matches
>Only two reports and one commend, and maybe even one of the reports was for those games where I carried hard as fuck and bm'd the enemy team in all chat
No shadow pool for me lads, thank fuck.
>>137225264
nice
>>137225308
>about average W/L rate forever
>Every conduct summary is 0 reports, around 3 comends
>Get increasingly firm in my giving advice/shittalking my team mates because of it
>Conduct summary latest: 0 reports, 4 comends
The trick seems to be being firm, even if you don't know what you're talking about
>>137225484
>>137225308
what does winrate have to do with reports
Dota 2 General
>>137225526
It doesn't, at least not directly.
But how many reports you have had affects your player behavior score, which affects what sort of teammates you get.
In short, being a flaming asshole or an angry sperglord will typically match you with people who spit just as much venom as you. Which doesn't exactly help team cohesion between five strangers in a pub.
>>137225643
>In short, being a flaming asshole or an angry sperglord will typically match you with people who spit just as much venom as you
wrong
>>137225643
>telling your teammates why they're losing is being a flaming asshole
nice
>>137225696
I have four accounts with behavior scores inbetween 6k and 9k and I've queued within the same few hours between them and the type of teammates I get is consent, the lower the ranking the worse they are.
So unless you have any evidence to prove otherwise I'm going to stick to my extensive testing between four accounts and a couple hundred matches.
LOL
>>137225849
I flame all the fucking time and most of my teammates never say a word except bitch and be like "hurr be positive stop flaming"
>>137224759
>progress is bad
Why dont we go back to the stone age where we hunted for rocks
ME OOGA
DEMOCRAT BOOGA
>>137225849
>i have four accounts
>>137225790
Yeah people don't know how to take advice in Dota 2, and it makes sense when you consider that the vast majority of Dota 2 players are European, Asian, or South American teenagers and young adults between 15 and 21 who probably deal with criticism poorly if at all.
I usually just shut the fuck up because correcting my teammates just seems to get me reported or muted by them, and they make little to no effort to correct their mistakes.
>>137225985
>Implying we still don't hunt for rocks
Leftists don't understand how computers work it's quite ironic considering how much blogging they do tbqh.
>>137225987
One for playing NA, one for playing EU, one for playing SEA/Australia. The other one is my oldest, now nearly five year old account.
>>137225967
Whatever you say babo.
>>137225985
>letting decadence ruin my country is progress
hedonism is empowering :^)
post sheever pls
Can we agree that both Democrats and Republicans are retarded?
>>137225889
that's it I'm switching
7 decides what moba I'm switching to
Guys I need to fill my cute anime girls folder.
>>137226181
paragon
>>137226181
League of GodZ
>>137226179
>/tf2g/ is discussing their game more than /d2g/
We've actually managed to become worse than the general that posted furry porn and raided /csgog/ for 300 posts and only stopped because both threads hit bump limit.
Good job.
>>137226217
wats dat
>>137226295
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9ztTW0vvWM
>>137225643
>>137225526
This, but also because losing teams are more likely to break down and blame their teamates, so if you're winning you're less likely to get a report on average
>>137222112
ANAL BLASTERED CARRYFOTMKEK BTFO'd
>>137226215
Paragon is broken, the 100% cxp share system makes 5 man jungling the only viable strategy
>>137226179
nice bait mate
republican is the white man's view
unless youre a fucking degenerate or a 3rd world shitskin that is mad as fuck that the world didnt treat them lightly, don't consider yourself human
>>137225790
This is just pointless. All of us are equally shit/good players in a ranked game and will have differing opinions on who fucked up the most or was most at fault for losing. Countless times I've been in games where people who feed just rage at everyone else for performing poorly or two people are shouting at each other over who lost them the game.
People are by nature unwilling to admit they fucked up. To realize that you were the one who fucked up and what you did wrong requires active cognitive processing. This kind of thinking is next to impossible when you're in the middle of the game taking an assbeating and some anonymous asshole is all capsing how everyone should kill themselves.
So just don't tell your teammates why they're losing. You probably don't even understand the reason and even if you do, it's impossible for them to process the information in a constructive way when playing.
Only thing you can do to improve your teammates play during a game is to channel as much positive energy as you can into the team. If you can't do that you're better off just being quiet.
>>137226782
it's almost like, i don't know, the mmr system is supposed to keep the shitters who refuse to improve out of higher skilled games
>>137226682
Republicans in the US are literally cuckolded jewish puppets.
There is only one white man's view: Fascism.
>>137226782
yah im not gonna read that bullshit
3 decides what i read
>>137226590
I never said being able to ban FOTM heroes was bad, and in fact my personal stance is far from that. I just said that's what we're going to be in for shortly. My primary concern is that it would most likely delete Techies from the game, because it only takes one person to not want to play with him.
>>137226970
>he can't get out of the bracket that bans techies every game
Sou da ne?
What the fuck is this garbage, and why is it spam filtered?
>>137226967
The point is that no matter how constructive you think your criticism is, people are unable to respond to it in a positive manner when they're taking it up the ass. So don't criticize, only be positive.
>>137226682
If Republicans are so great then why are all the candidates besides Trump a bunch of jew dick ducking cucks?
>captain afk
>all random
>still win
What went wrong with dire? I was Nepgear
>>137226967
http://www.learntocounter.com/why-dota-sucks-introduction/
>>137226970
>techies ban
????????
stay 1k shitter
>>137226921
>belief in the absolute control of everyone/everything
>not puppet
tell me, how hard you lost the war again?
>>137225967
>your team sucks
>you flame your team
>your team sucks and hate you aswell
Now THAT is what I call productive usage of your energy.
>>137227336
>flame team for feeding
>they start tryharding just to try and prove me wrong
>mfw we win because of it
>>137227167
u had full range with drow is what happened
>>137227336
>teammates are retarded
>i flame them and feel a bit better getting it out
>i then play better
?
>>137227502
here's the more likely scenario
>flame team for sucking
>they sell all items and buy 322 sentries
>keep flaming them
>>137227687
>let me tell you about your games
How the fuck is newbee this shitty
I'm actually amazed by BTS abilities to find shittier casters by the year
>>137227585
Is all range lineup still viable this patch with drow?
Spec and Od banned
>>137227795
they weren't playing THAT bad yesterday desu
>>137227795
my rares
>>137227502
I can say that I have personally intentionally thrown games where someone flames me just because who fucking cares? Im never gonna see that person again, getting reported doesn't do anything, and the fact that they freak the fuck out about it just bring tears of joy to my eyes. If the guy is too stupid to realize that demoralizing the team is detrimental to winning, he's probably too dumb to win you a video game so why try your absolute hardest only for some shitter to ruin the game for you while yelling at you all game?
in 3222 hours of dota I always thought centaur's double edge was a single target spell till today. WTF mind blown
>>137228085
>i do this thing
>so everyone else does this thing
>>137228085
>man that guy is being a jerk
>i better fuck myself that'll show him
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fucking jews
Straight fuck reddit, specifically Leafater for making that god awful Mirana/ and hero ancient cliff jungling strat
Also AP is gone. FUCK.Captains mode. So many shitty peruvian and pinoys who dont know how to draft or talk
Random Draft all the way
>>137228528
rofl
>>137228228
I'm just letting you know don't be surprised when people react negatively. You can act like "aaaah people are babies and should grow thicker skin its just computer game flaming!" but thats not how it actually works senpai
>>137228341
There's no other way to show him. He's never gonna change so why not do everything you can to make him mad as fuck? He's already ruined the game anyways so why not just go full retard?
>>137226181
adventure time moba
is it sad that following all of ChiLongQua's advice by acting like a complete ass my MMR is skyrocketing
What's worse?
Filipinos
Peruvians
Russians
You guys are like the kids who insisted duelmasters was a better game than yugioh.
T I N K E R
>>137228875
do peruvians and filipinos sell their items and fill their inventory with mangos?
>>137228889
>Dota
MTG
>League
Pokemon
>HoN
Duelmasters
>HotS
Yugioh
>newbee tinker
>>137228997
probably.
>>137228875
I just want to express how shit peruvians and SEA players are.
NA Dota>EU Dota >Russians>.....>......>......>.....>.....>....>Peruvians>Everything below United States >...........................................>All of SEA
>>137228875
Aussies are as shit as Filipinos but they also lag like shit AND can berate you in what passes as English on that god forsaken continent
>>137228997
havent seen a pinoy do that thing yet
but they are always late to the meta but dont complain about your picks and shit
i hate the way they 5 man all game
>>137229095
yeah but on USE you get Peruvians and I don't wanna play with seamonkeys???
not sure how bad 100+ ping is either
>>137229186
Dude those Niggers have invaded USW. so US-W Is just getting shit fucked on both ends Orally and Anally by SEA and Peru.
>>137229015
wake me up when tinker starts killing people
lol this thread So let me get this straight d2g
Blue pilled = leftists
Red pilled = republicans?
>>137229108
>Aussies are as shit as pinoys
Harsh.
>>137229320
can confirm
i play on 120+ ping on USW just to see autists sperg the moment they realize im typing putang ina mo :DD
why is mu playing carry and hao offlane
>>137229349
Only retards buy into the two party system in America. The truly redpilled know who controls things behind the scenes.
>>137229457
>play with shit ping not only to play worse, but also tilt your team
Truly a beacon of our human species, aren't you.
i cant stand these shit casters
>>137228341
Losing is the worst fucking shit. But sometimes you can find some solace in knowing that this one asshole is absolutely buttblasted.
>>137229671
I miss our guy
>orchid tinker
what the FUCK am I listening to
>no ranked ap
>no point to live
FUCK.
https://twitter.com/Leafeator/status/715706290933276672
lmao get fucked
>15th loss in a row
Captain's Draft ruined rank
New, cute loli hero when?
I don't even know why I bet on newbee
They're infamous for throwing games like this
>>137230018
>losing to ursa pl lc at 30 min
I guess I found my true MMR xDDI'm still so fucking triggered from that LD game. I will never not be triggered.
What mmr is this DanelieCasts girl? She says some dumb ass shit.
I fucking love memes.
>>137230357
So fucking triggered I forgot my screencap
>>137230374
she's in the very high skill bracket
>>137230191
this series has been 3 heart attacks in a row and the 3rd game isn't even over, fucken newbee i swear to god
don't forget d2g
erp time 11 pm AEST, catch ya later :3
>play Defense of the Ancients 2©™ from developer Valve Software™
>purchase Compendium with over 15 immortalt for over 13 different heroes
>have a very good time and also fun in the masterfully crafted gameplay, refined by IceFrog
Who is the best waifu, Dotards?
>tfw no Draven hero
Pub captains mode is a fucking JOKE.
>>137230173
lmao
>>137230482
kek
>have to wait a week to trade for mobile authentication or have a 15 day hold on the items i've traded
UHHHH DOTARDS????!?!@?@#$io:@jh:H;OL3EJHTKL;ASRHKL;AH;Y
>tfw no Zilean hero
>Hero spammers salty they can't spam their free MMR hero every single game.
>Look at the profiles of these players.
>Constant losses since the change.
>Those 500 Invoker games now amount to nothing.
>>137230487
is that a qw or qe invoker?
>>137225293
kek the anticipation is killing me......no meme pet lurd fampai??...
>>137229993
What is the first day of April
>>137231001
Depends on the game, senpai.
>>137231108
6:04 PM - 31 Mar 2016
>>137230853
I love lying on the internet as well.
>>137229457
I mean how bad is 120 ping
>it's a the caster doesn't show the fight recap half the time episode
>>137230634
Fucking ridiculous seriously
Gonna allin on cdec to beat vg
>league ticket
>"yes i would like to pay something i can watch for free"
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2263888385
>>137231481
>not using dotatv
>not downloading replays
>not watching from player perspectives
but yea most tickets are just a waste
>>137231481
you should pay for them cheapskate we're the biggest e-squirt nao!!.....
>>137231429
not really that bad as long as you dont have packet loss
i thought it was bad too when my friend on usw invted me to play but we won those 3 games
i dont troll shit or anything just love joining forces with tacos and banter on viper mid autists
>aether glimmer tinker
So how about that Omniknight and Zeus? They sure are swell fellows with their win rates and what not
nice powerpoint presentation dotards
Insider here, Razor will be top tier next patch.
I'M SO FUCKING SORRY FOR ASKING GUYS
WHY IS ALL PICK DISABLED IN RANKED?
>newbee
>>137232409
Fucking kys newbee shitters
DUDE
you're telling me that there are people literally in this thread watching chink dota with tier 4 casters?
like
rofl
>>137232537
WEAVE
>>137232480
that doesnt explain SHIT
>>137232619
he's right though
>>137232619
get gud
>>137232209
In 6.86:
>Omni has been picked 39 times and has 20 wins, 19 losses.
>Zeus has been picked 259 times and has 121 wins, 138 losses.
Perfectly balanced.
>>137232127
viable reported
Guess the hero, /d2g/!
>>137232558
Better than watching EU dota with tier 99999999 casters like sheeber.
>>137232664
>>137232694
your next reply better have the answer or you're going to regret it
>>137232796
>ember.png
>>137232312
>skill 2 drain tick is still slow to be even viable for late game
Still doesn't scale well enough to last until late game
>>137232812
what are you going to do?
>>137232812
you're scaring me anon
>>137232820
WRONGGGGGGG
>>137232801
>why you eating dogshit
>at least its not catshit
baka senpai
>>137232970
man you really fooled me there!!!!!!
>>137233017
>He doesn't like toxoplasmosis
>>137232970
should've replaced vlads with satanic, nigger
>>137233147
>He doesn't like FREE damage x5
My first win to end my 15 loss streak, finally
>>137232970
>still buying badSkadi
>on any viable carries
>in the year of our lord two-thousand and sixteen
Holy fucking shit is Spectre overpowered as fuck.
I laned against a Huskar+CM alone the whole laning phase and died two times at lane and only had like 10-15 last hits until 7-8 min mark.
Only think I had was urn and boots but the second gangs and shit started to happen, only think I needed to do to catch up was just use my ult and steal kills. I was able to get drums and phase in 3-4 minute and was able to get diffusual in less than 3 minute after I solo killed cm and Medusa.
Enemy supports, Rubick and CM never roamed alone because of my ult and they all but 5 manned the entire game after 15 minutes after I got my drums and diffisual. But I still managed to get 650 GPM and highest exp per minute in the game even with my disastrous start.
How the fuck people lose with Spectre?
>>137233227
Good job. Keep at it.
>>137233267
how to fix skadi
>skadi slow now procs from spell damage
there fixed
>>137233313
>Skadi Tide
HOLY SHIT
>>137233313
by badSkadi i'm referring to sny, anon
also what the fuck
>>137233267
>bad skadi
>Movement speed + attack speed + nearly the same stats as skadi minus health and mana
>for 1500 gold cheeper
>build with less expensive pieces, i.e: easier to build
Not viable on Naix, Sven, PA, i.e: fighting carries that fall off after 45 min mark.
Stay 1k gulag
>>137232558
only to understand how these teams are playing and winning FREE money because odds are retarded on the chinese matches atm
>>137233276
Oh, this was one of my first spectre games and first one this patch.
And I think storm was from this general as well.
>>137232812
step up faggot
>>137233510
>literally honeypot item
yet shitters still trying to get it past 30 mins
it's a decent item if you can get it fast enough, like, say, by 20mins
>>137233429
>I buy sny for the maim! xD
>>137233857
Thats was the whole point of my post senpai...
Why are all of EHOME's names "old ___"?
>>137232409
>Reddit gets mad about FotM
>Valve panders to Reddit
>attempts to forcefully remove FotM, they know pub CM is a fucking joke and people will play RD to avoid the grief
>>137234001
The maim is really good though.
>cdec
EVERY
SINGLE
TIME
Guys what's wrong with puck? she seems to be pure evil.
>>137233787
>>137232934
>>137232851
>>137233276
>>137233578
Epic blog.
Spectre isn't overpowered, memeback is just fucking retarded.
It was nerfed, then recently buffed, so she saw a surge in popularity (again).
Sniper was nerfed into the trash so he couldn't capitalize on memeback, as was Storm.
Revert memeback = fix the game instantly.
>>137234360
>Revert memeback = fix the game instantly.
One, let the memepush go
Two, let the memepush go
Three, nothing wrong with meme
NOW!
LET THE BODIES HIT THE RAX
LET THE BODIES HIT THE RAX
LET THE BODIES HIT THE....
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>>137230018
AHAHAHAHAHA FOTM PICKERS BTFOOOOOOOO
>>137234026
initialy it was old chicken (pubstar)
then eleven added it to troll him
then lanm did it too
then iceiceice and fenrir did it as well because why not
>>137233227
>TBD
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I want games to be less than 20 minutes.
I want games to end before 20 minutes, because one team gets so fucking far ahead, that the enemy team cannot come back. I want comeback gold to be removed, and lineups to consist of Shaman, Ogre Magi, Undying and the best early-game carries you could imagine. I want deathball, deathpush, push, push push. That is all I want. Completely crushing enemies spirit and morale, and/or completely being crushed every game, with no inbetweens.
That's what memepush is. I have no idea why some retards want it back.
>>137234530
kek
>You will never go back in time to early HoNbeta or Dota version 6.65-6.7x
Why are all dota clones cursed to start out great and inevitably turn to shit?
>>137234708
>posting BadHotD
also hon was fucking shit from start to finish
t. beta player
>>137234708
HoN was always trash, revisionism bro. Because it was infested to its core and from top to bottom with dudebroism.
>>137234708
HoN was never great, it started out trying to be a graphical upgrade but was so ugly despite the technological advances that it looked drastically worse, then everything it tried to change was even more poorly-thought-out than the things it started with. THEN the bad new content came.
>>137234747
>also hon was fucking shit from start to finish
>t. beta player
beta was great
it turned to shit after our little fraud bailed out and s2 was in charge of balance
>>137234805
Where is the fraud now?
It's almost a certainty he's not at valve anymore.
>>137234805
HoN had as a stated goal from the very start to incubate the stupid fucking NADota mentality of crushing new players into paste to get "dunked" on by better players.
$2 wanted the dudebro core of absolutely insufferable faggots because their upper management was infested with that trash.
>>137234805
is hon dead now/ i remember playing a few games of it before going back to war3 garena because i was too lazy to take in ability and graphical changes
>>137234805
It never reached hero parity even in the "good days" and its art design and overal visual style was vomit-inducing. So there was never ANY point in time where it was better than just playing DotA.
>>137234863
>releases ANOTHER god awful patch
>not at valve
lamo
why the FUCK isnt he meta?
>game hasn't been good since 6.58
>go back in time to 6.58
>game hasn't been good since 6.23
The fuck is wrong with you idiots.
>>137234978
Let me guess, you lost the game anyway despite playing against agi puck of no damage.
>>137234998
are you fucking new?
this game peaked in 5.84c and everyone knows it
>Raks's
>>137234978
because of le ebin man of 1,000,000 spells exists and cannot be shaken from his throne on mid. his early game suffers when 1 stun can turn into a kill with a global pure nuke.
>>137234751
get dumpstered, kid
>>137235031
>implying its possible to lose with 2500 aoe pulse novas