Ogre Edition
>INFORMATION & GUIDES
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>STATISTICS
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>NEWS & STREAMS
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http://www.gosugamers.net/
https://www.reddit.com/r/dota2/
http://www.liquiddota.com/
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>BETTING
Cosmetic items: http://dota2lounge.com/
>50% of the heroes are in RD
>wow RD will save ranked because there will be no OP heroes XD
valve destroyed RD by putting 50 heroes in it
>>137179817
It should be 12 of each type of hero
>>137179901
Fuck it, let's go full restrictions.
12 of each stat, 6 of each faction
>>137179586
when was the last time you saw clock and warlock picked in all pick ranked?
>>137180078
Probably last week.
>>137180170
really? what bracket is this? warlock is alright but ive never seen clock other than like 2-3 times this entire patch
>>137180053
>6 of each faction
I think we should do away with factions, they're so dumb and inconsistent
Why is BH radiant? He doesn't give a shit about anything but the pay.
Why is Oracle radiant? He's probably more evil than anyone else in the game.
Why is Visage and Razor Dire? They just have jobs they have to do.
How is there still no fucking balance patch after all this time?
I'm starting to be really done with this game. I barely play anymore, the cancer heroes this patch are just too much
>be ta
>team picks lich safelane void bs jungle and clock
>i tell bs wont work cause weak lanes
>i tell void wont work cause only i can hit in chrono and possible lich ult
>lololol stfu
>safe loses hard
>clock can't do shit against am veno and wl
>i go 3 0 mid
>they screaming for me to gank safe
>we have 0 control so i wait for bs to hit 6
>we kill, they continue screaming i lost them their lane or some shit
>try ganking bot, succeed.
>meanwhile, somehow, pudge that was 0 3 mid is now 6 3 or some shit
>top died like 10 times, void no farm, clock can't do shit and bs is well bs, went form 4 0 to 04
>screaming at me non stop, lose my shit, have late blink deso
>scream back at them with my not perfect english
>lolo not perfect english fucking russian report
this game is really fucking frustrating sometimes
>windranger is an int carry
>implying windranger even has a primary attribute
>>137180809
who even piicks bloodseeker and clock anymore. desu you should just recalibrate senpai
>>137180586
Because at the beginning of the game Valve was all, let's add a story and lore to deepen the gameplay
I mean look at the tutorials there's even a world map with banned locations
Then they were all like Nah bruh just go with it
Blizzard was at least smart and went with the whole "mystical vortex pulls people from different universes" angle
>>137180882
it's probably easy to tell just from front teeth
>RTZ playing OD
>EE playing slark
There is nothing to good to watch. What do I do dotards?
>>137180930
well gaben and his fucking random draft
desu m8, when i was like 2.8k games were decent
at 3.3 games are often pure horor
everyone thinks they are fucking good and god of 3k , no one plays support
and most of those core players are fucking shit , i often need to win every lane with shit like bh
>>137180809
BS is suppose to one of the few junglers that can easily step out and do something in the lanes when needed, since he uses no resources for jungling.
>>137181094
epicenter GFs
>>137181094
>OD
Literally a honeypot hero.
region lock when
pls
i can't take anymore jajas an antigamer
>>137180586
why is zeus radiant? hes a rapist and serial philanderer
why are windranger and enchantress radiant? they reinforce the manic pixie dream girl archetype and are ultimately selfdestructive
* Ranked Captain's Mode now selects the highest ranked player of each team to be captain.
xd
>>137181269
We've seen him at dotapit, we've seen him at shanghai. He is no longer fun to watch. He's boring now. I'm getting so sick of watching him that I might never want to watch him again once he gets nerfed. I'll want him to stay in the dumpster with storm, leshrac, troll, and sniper, huskar and invoker.
>>137180053
Limiting picks based on faction is probably a bad idea.
>>137180586
>Why is BH radiant? He doesn't give a shit about anything but the pay.
It's true. But he has a voice line or two talking about the greater good of the kingdom or whatever. So he thinks he wants to work for the "good guys".
>Why is Oracle radiant? He's probably more evil than anyone else in the game.
Just because he's clairvoyant doesn't mean he's evil. He's just scheming extra hard to try and get the outcome he wants. What he wants is just probably the opposite of what Dire wants, not that he's "good".
>Why is Visage and Razor Dire? They just have jobs they have to do.
Most of the heroes related to prophecising and afterlife/death and/or quests for power seem to love the Dire side as an affinity thing as opposed to an ideological thing. That and Radiant is all about life and flowers and fluffy butterflies and being happy forever and that goes contrarian to edgelords like Visage and Razor.
>>137181192
he actually did it and was ok early on
problem was lich and void screwd big time safe and then pulled down whole team
then they decided its my fault and ganked on me
they decided tthat from like minute 5 when i was 3 0 screaming gg mid no gank
The Radiant are all crazy and shallow. Every otherdimensional power is aligned with the Dire.
After all the base damage nerfs how did invoker come back to the meta?
>>137181356
>why is zeus radiant? hes a rapist and serial philanderer
He thinks it's all harmless fun and games. In Greek mythology, Zeus is also a major moralfag who gets mad at people for doing immoral or unjust things so he strikes lightning on them as punishment/judgement.
>why are windranger and enchantress radiant? they reinforce the manic pixie dream girl archetype and are ultimately selfdestructive
Manic pixie dream girls like butterflies and flower and sunshine and happiness and nature.
What items should I have before midas on Silencer and Spirit Breaker?
guys patch
Ranked Captain's Mode now selects the highest ranked player of each team to be captain.
>>137181963
literally nothing because don't get a fucking midas on those heroes
>>137181963
lotus orb/skadi
Ranked attracts the most retarded people. Some autistic little shit always picks a carry last after we've already picked our carries and shit.
I almost never have this happen in unranked.
let's seem em'
>>137182030
Yeah sure, I'll be really fucking useful at 30 minutes with nothing but a force staff and half an atos on silencer, and nothing but urn and drums on spirit breaker.
>Ranked Captain's Mode now selects the highest ranked player of each team to be captain.
finally. time to spam pick np + drow + visage + invoker and get to 6k.
>>137180586
>BH
because he literally hunts criminals, including a legendary thief and a tyrant king
>Oracle
He just sees the future m8
>Visage and Razor
I might give you visage, but Razor is a sadist who literally takes pleasure in lightning-whipping the souls he should just guide through the maze
>>137182370
Silencer and Spirit Breaker are meant to farm heroes, not creep, you shitter.
git fucking gud
>>137182370
just go straight refresher for silencer u mong. you are literally a walking ult if you are a support.
thats also why u get a lotus orb on sb because you can purge shit and reflect all cc thrown at you
>>137181480
BUT HE ISN'T OP.
SINCE WHEN "I HAVE SEEN IT TOO MUCH" BECAME A VALID REASON TO NERF SOMETHING
>>137179261
Earthshaker
>>137182616
A boring professional scene means dead esports. I don't want to see OD bad invoker anymore and I doubt anyone disagrees.
>>137182245
>play unranked
>everyone else picks carries
>hover a support then lock a carry last second
>get fisted in the first 30 minutes
>carry the 4 feeders and win anyway
>pick Timber
>lose
>pick Timber again
>lose again
help
>>137182860
learn how to farm better with tinker
>>137182860
how can you lose with the epic goblin of pure burst? just pick timber when theres no invoker around.
>>137182810
>"we need a support"
>last pick carry
>get every last hit
>never fight with the team
>use teammates to start teamfights
>never initiate
>kill steal and clean up teamfights
>carry the feeders
>750 gpm on average
>>137183038
so, never?
>>137182616
t. OD spammer
>>137183105
in this patch pretty much yea.
>>137182810
>Everyone else picks carries
>Hover over morph
>"pls not another carry"
>mfw they don't know
Anyone use roshpit.ca? I can name someone as my referrer.
>>137183241
4 seconds of stun time that they aren't gonna do shit with.
>>137183075
that's a perfect representation of what happened
except getting last hits, you don't get last hits on solo offlane arc warden but you don't need them
>>137183241
Picking support morph in a greedy lineup (like 4 carries) is the worst thing you could do though
>>137183148
Joke on you, I don't even play ranked.
OD winrate in tournament has gone down after shanghai.
Why redditor like yourself always call people that don't agree with them X spammers?.
Why aren't you crying about Lion who has better winrate than OD/Invoker.
CRYSTAL WAIFU GOT PICKED
>>137183292
what is that?
>>137183415
>>137183241
you actually made me visit the playdota forums for the first time in 3 years.
>>137182860
timber is good but he gets absolutely shat on by le balanced 500 spells man and le balanced pure dmg alien, at least one of which you're guaranteed to play against in nearly every game
april fools hehe haha
>>137183415
from all the acolyte spam on here I understand he invented:
RFO spectre
Not-a-ricing-carry alchemist
Mid void with blink and Aghs (before he got reworked)
Ggreaves tinker
Aghs-RFO luna
And some say he invented Bfury AM back in the time of dota allstars, before playdota existed
to people stuck in forced 50 i can give only one advice - just be yourself
>>137183241
I will never forgive icefraud for killing supportling
Just let him be meta you FUCKINg hack
What does a hero truly need?
>>13718080
>be ta
First mistake
>team picks lich safelane void bs jungle and clock
Nothing wrong with this
>i tell bs wont work cause weak lanes
He's jungling with clock offlane, literally nothing wrong
>i tell void wont work cause only i can hit in chrono and possible lich ult
What the fuck are you talking about, chrono sets up lich ult and bs silence, gg team fights, it's not a hindrance at all
>lololol stfu
They were right to tell you so, I'm only this far and you already annoyed me
>safe loses hard
Shit happens
>clock can't do shit against am veno and wl
It's the offlane the fuck do you expect, your team doesn't even have high mana pool heroes why do you give a shit, am sucks anyways
>i go 3 0 mid
That's nice but your job isn't to get kills, you're #2 you should be bragging about last hits
>they screaming for me to gank safe
Because that's your job? If you don't want to gank pick a safe lane carry
>we have 0 control so i wait for bs to hit 6
This is some of the dumbest shit I've heard. You have control mid but bottom doesn't so you won't gank? How the fuck does that help?
>we kill, they continue screaming i lost them their lane or some shit
Refusing to gank until the jungle hits six and can help? He should be in the jungle, not doing your job
>try ganking bot, succeed.
It's about fucking time
>meanwhile, somehow, pudge that was 0 3 mid is now 6 3 or some shit
What have you been doing this whole time?
>top died like 10 times, void no farm, clock can't do shit and bs is well bs, went form 4 0 to 04
Probably because you didn't help your sidelanes as a gank hero mid
>screaming at me non stop, lose my shit, have late blink deso
How are you late blink deso if you were 3-0 mid and didn't gank? What were you doing?
>scream back at them with my not perfect english
Why are you on English servers then
>lolo not perfect english fucking russian report
I would have reported you too, solo driver mid Russians are cancer
>tfw you are support that single-handedly destroys 1 side and has best gpm while your carry builds support items and nobody can touch t2 on other sides
>>137183241
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RTYDxoRGh8
based
>>137183813
new ones i mean. the MOM no mana break AM is an eternal classic. ofc ive seen and applied most of these. rfo spec is legit ultra late.
greaves tinker sounds terrible desu.
he has the foresight of icefrog desu
>>137183914
You didn't play support
>>137183737
use duolingo or something it's a pretty easy language once you know the alphabet
>>137184120
What are you talking about? What is duolingo?
>>137180809
I bet you also didn't stack ancients for yourself, didn't farm 10-12 min deso followed by 15 minute blink, didn't oneshot anyone through the game and are completely convinced that all of this is somehow on your teammates.
TA mid can win game ez if you stack ancients, unless you have bad matchup but considering you're probably below 4k you shouldn't have problem with that either.
>>137184054
I guess wards, healing and buffs don't count.
>>137184053
Aghs-Greaves tinker is pretty fun 2bh pham. Literally endless mana for your team and rocket spam for ages
Of course it still has the farm vacuum weakness of tinker
>>137182245
everyone in ranked has the "I'm better than this MMR so I need to carry" mentality
Why is Shadow Demon so fucking useless.
Disruption lasts either too long or not long enough. The illusions themselves are nice, but the way it prevents the enemy from taking damage is SHIT and since illusions just have the base movespeed unless you have a slow or stun they just run away from them.
What if Shadow Poison slowed? Would it be viable then? Sure he's got his ult, but that shit's not that great, and if they get bkb he's entirely useless.
If they have any purge he's all but useless.
I get he's a niche pick and does certain things really well, but why ever pick him when other supports exist that don't suck balls at everything except Luna Glaive abuse.
>>137183737
not really, i mean obviously some russian words are cognate with English but most words aren't intuitive to non-native speakers of a slavic language. lessons on russian duolingo would be better, at least so you learn basic stuff like numbers, who what when where why, etc
t. slav
>>137184338
Disruption is a Euls that you can use on own team. Pretty OP.
Damage amp and ult is what you do.
Poison is just there to dickwave.
>>137184338
i feel like icefraud was determined to make all of SD's spells mediocre versions of other heroes' spells
>>137180450
Can I get a source for this famalams?
>>137184230
i did stack anicents, my items were delayed a shitton. i didn't play perfect, i never said that.
i was made to leave lane at lvl 7 and kind of lost momentum.
>>137183973
what are the latest clan iraq builds
>>137184585
truly a jack of all trades. desu if they reduced cd on shadow poison and disruption, he'd be pretty up there. also reducing aoe of soul catcher. that shit is garbage right now.
a charge based purge or a lower damage but lower cooldown ult would also be great buffs.
>>137184963
well he hasn't posted on playdota since forever so i don't know
>>137182860
>Pick Naga
>Enjoy the hero immensely
>Lose 4 games in a row
It's just so fun to farm the whole map and rat but goddamn if I could just get the bare minimum team that will push
>>137184542
And it's fucking uselesssss unless you're already ahead. If you're losing, it just delays the inevitable. He's not a comback support like Venge, or Omni, or Sand King, or any of the meta supports as of late. He's squishy as fuck with no armor so he can't trade, which means he has to zone using his shadow poison, which means you basically have to be on clarity non stop. It's mildly effective but you're vulnerable to ganks if you want to zone them out since you'll be low on mana and your disruption will be shit.
Soul catcher is random, so unless your target is alone maaaybe they get hit by it often they don't. And what the fuck does it even do? Is it a separate damage instance? Is it just a damage amp? The explanation is so vague. How many units can get hit by it? What's the chance of them getting cursed? Why can't it just be a focused curse in a small area that's a guarantee, why is it a chance to curse.
I know it's only a single enemy, but the explanation says units implying it can hit multiple dudes.
If it's a random target, why is the aoe fuckhueg. It makes it almost impossible to use.
>>137185137
C U R R E N T Y E A R
playing naga as anything other than a pos 5 support.
its like you want to lose mmr.
>>137185085
RIP clan_iraq
>>137184963
>>137185085
he posts in the game strategy forums on playdota pretty often. he posted in feb iirc. ion cannon luna.
>>137185154
>>137185064
ice frog will never buff this hero. hes designed to be used to counter illu heroes with good orbs but illu heroes are just not meta now.
>>137185154
>Soul catcher is random, so unless your target is alone maaaybe they get hit by it often they don't. And what the fuck does it even do? Is it a separate damage instance? Is it just a damage amp? The explanation is so vague. How many units can get hit by it? What's the chance of them getting cursed? Why can't it just be a focused curse in a small area that's a guarantee, why is it a chance to curse.
>I know it's only a single enemy, but the explanation says units implying it can hit multiple dudes.
>If it's a random target, why is the aoe fuckhueg. It makes it almost impossible to use.
You need to git gud. Damage amp is easy to land if you slap AoE where only one unit is. Disruption gives you free damage amp application unless you do it in the middle of a fight.
>>137185723
for a 50% pure damage amp that isnt reliable, the cooldown and mana cost are obscene compared to the utility of his other spells
>>137185898
I don't know what you are trying to prove here. With just a small buff SD could become one of the top picks.
>this arteezy game.
DAMN SON, TINKER IS FUCKING CANCEROUS.
>>137185723
>>137185898
Not to mention its cast range is anemic. You can argue it's such a huge aoe so it's actually got a big cast range, but for something so fucking unreliable its radius is a huge negative, and its cast range pathetic. Give me the radius as the cast range and the cast range as the size of the radius, and I'd be happy.
Instead you can't use it in lane because you'll hit a minion. You can't use it jungle because you'll hit a neutral. You can't even use it reliably in a teamfight because you might hit the support instead of the carry.
>>137186110
Exactly, he could be good, but he's shit outside of specific, niche areas.
>RTZ throws another game
epic
>Can't spam OD anymore
>lose
like clockwerk
>>137186439
is that recent?
Hello?
what is this nigga even supposed to do
>>137186793
win games.
i have a 100% wr with him this patch. 7 games played
>>137186793
Tank towerhits.
>>137186793
Attack towers in ranged form
Stun people
Thats about it
>>137186917
holy shit f@m, you on the leaderboards yet?
>>137187165
Talk about a Dota stream.
>>137186793
Either early tower pushes, or lategame hard carry. Or both.
If you want to win games as Dragon Knight, either get an early push/teamfight draft or a 4p1 that'll let you farm for 40-50 minutes.
A 5-7 slotted Dragon Knight is ridiculously unkillable and shits out infinite splash damage in a teamfight.
>>137182616
>SINCE WHEN "I HAVE SEEN IT TOO MUCH" BECAME A VALID REASON TO NERF SOMETHING
This is LITERALLY how Riot balances their game.
If you ever see anyone try to apply it to Dota its 100% certain they are league rejects
>>137186793
max dragon blood and enjoy not only a FREE PLATEMAIL but FREE TRANQS
>be on record winstreak playing the same character over and over
>know picking anyone else isn't literally free wins every game and I'll get shite teams
>want variety
>want wins
wat do?
>>137182773
>>137183148
Reminder that Riot balances their champions around PUBLIC GAME PICK RATE.
Not if they hero is good, but whether it's played "too much"
PPD just confirmed that secret is NA
>>137187871
Doesn't league have any heroes that are basically Pudge where they drew so much attention from retards they would be top pick/ban even if all their skills were changed to do nothing?
>MSS
L O L.
>Tickets for the International 2016 will be available via Ticketmaster.com
surely the tickets won't all be bought up immediately and resold for higher prices
Guess the hero, /d2g/!
>>137188535
Farming Specter
Who's the best to counter alchemist mid if OD keeps getting banned.
Razor sucks lategame against him even tho he does well early game.
>>137182571
If they could farm creeps, they wouldn't need midas. And good luck "farming heroes" past the laning phase.
>>137188720
>And good luck "farming heroes" past the laning phase.
git
fucking
gud
Is there such a thing as a rat alchemist build that isn't badNaga? I just had a game where I had to take alchemist from somebody because they accidentally picked him, and I ended up in the situation where the enemy team just started going everywhere as a group. So I needed to start ratting.
>>137188953
EXCUSE ME? Naga is the badalch. by the time naga gets radiance an alch probably has rad + manta
>>137188953
AC mjollnir butterfly
>>137186793
You jump into teamfights and hope they can't kill you fast enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL43k2MFWuM
>>137188000
tryndamere
threadly reminder that aghs refresher riki is the only way to build him
>>137188720
>hero that gets +2 INT just for existing next to dying enemy heroes
>BKB piercing ult
>PURE damage orb
>+3.0 AGI gain
>high magic burst
>just don't be out of position and don't feed early game to get massive INT gain and damage
>hero with a 12 second stun train, pure skill bash, and extra high magic burst that is almost always a guaranteed kill
>I WISH I HAD A MIDAS SO I CAN CATCH UP IN FARM AND LEVELS BECAUSE GETTING KILLS IS SO HARD
Maybe you should just pick an easier hero, one that fits your skill level. Like Wraith King. He only needs one button and all you get to do is farm creeps all day. Sniper probably works at your MMR too, maybe OD too. They are simple heroes that a simple mind like yours can play.
>>137188818
Literally timbersaw
>play dota
>update required
>oh ok download update
>play game
>update required
DOTARDS?
>>137188953
I love when Alchs don't build any armor so I can go around one shotting them with crits and -armor.
He's a good hero, but people play him so dumbly.
>oh boy I have radiance at minute 8
>and 700hp 3 armor
>what could possibly go wrong
>>137189108
and then alch dies to a stun and two nukes
>>137188668
WRONG
>>137180518
Where is image?
>>137189453
Not gonna lie that's some impressive farm.
Either that or you're horribly underleveled.
>>137188953
The radiance naga build is amazing for the farm. Just skip octarine and go mjolnir ac abbysal after that. Octarine just lowers your cooldowns and takes up slots you need proper items on. Mjolnir, AC and Abbysal are the holy trinity of alchemist items. They are like antimages battlefury manta abbysal. That's how important they are.
If you don't want to play with radiance then go medallion, into solarcrest if you like, shadowblade/blink, maelstrom, basher, ac. Then finish the mjolnir and abbysal. And then go bkb or mkb. Depending on the disables. Sell solarcrest if you want both. Then you end the game. Or give out aghs. You lose 200 gpm if you don't go radiance though. Your farming is much slower without it. I get 750 gpm without radiance and 950 with radiance manta BoTs. Almost 90 games as alch.
>>137188720
>We share a general with people who build midas on Spirit breaker
1550 GOLD OF NOT-SHADOWBLADE
>>137189442
hue hue hue. dont tell me you cant dodge stuns with your manta you nobo?
Jokes aside, alch with go octacore and will basically become death destroyer of worlds.
>>137189374
I built AC and solarcrest and bkb and still got 3 shotted by clinkz/TA. Alch can't handle them unless he builds eblade.
>>137189767
GIVE ME ALL THE FARM
>>137189131
>4 minute long teamfight pushing high ground with like 8 buybacks and Dire just gives up trying to kill DK after the first time
Glorious.
>>137189834
how else will you carry the 4 peruvians/russians/pinoys/pollack/insertracehere
also, look at naga radiance timings compared to alch radiance timings. its makes a difference to your team as well
>>137188874
>Full image has sopping wet in it
Nice.
>>137189352
nice
>>137189807
Alch has some of the worst bases and growths in the game. He also sucks against nukers in general, and because he starts with a whopping 1 armor anyone with -armor, even if he builds armor, completely shreds him.
Basically he has to be baby sat and go unganked for 15 minutes so he can get levels and 2 full items, then he starts ganking the fuck out of anyone alone for sweet bounty money, still avoiding most standup fights and just farming stacks for mad money.
If you're not six slotted by minute 30 you're hopeless. Alchemist's biggest strength is his ability to have 2-3 items over his opponents. Oh and his ult reducing his base attack time, that's pretty bullshit right there.
>>137189972
>going octameme
You'll do no damage. You could have had a satanic on that slot. Or even an MKB
>>137189681
So is Alchemist's escape method to have more HP than they have damage?
2Kmmr is shit...
Why is everybody playing Abyssal Underlord? Ive had 3 ranked games in a row and people who have no idea how to play him keeps picking him...
>>137189108
Alch is just a reverse Spectre
instead of getting pickoffs, memeback gold/XP, and winning the lategame, Alch inevitably feeds, hands the enemy an assboat of memeback gold/XP, and loses the lategame
Might as well pick Meepo tbqh
>Broxybot keeps dodging Laguna Blade and the Lina's going apeshit
This is just too fucking funny.
>>137190304
wat
LOL
>>137188874
sparrow truly is the Monet of our times
>>137190382
>111 heroes
>61 heroes are removed at random
>100 heroes remain
This is why Nerf Now is shit.
>Rtz gets memed in lane by ench
>starts bitching in chat
wew
>>137190291
Yes. But his regeneration doesn't mean shit after 40 minutes after that you can't escape. Strength heroes don't get to do that. You have to prep your stun. Get into the middle of the enemy team, drop acid, stun them all and then burst them down as fast as possible. You win teamfights in the first 5 seconds. That's like antimage mana-voiding the invoker. If you fail, you die.
>>137190643
>he's the best
>around
>>137190525
CM has more than a hundred heroes.
>>137190815
literally everything gets him doooown
>>137190369
where?
>>137190304
well thats some reddit tier post
>>137189343
>implying WK is easy
Ok yeah he's kind of easy but a braindead WK is a dead dead WK. He's really easy to fuck up with, and while you do usually get a second chance to do so, many times you don't.
>>137190369
I thought it only played Techies? dodge how? euls?
lina go half of ass and tits out
barefoot
sexual references
why can't sluts settle down
>>137180586
bh serves the realm's justice
other two i agree with
I'm getting lonely, someone pick me please.
>dies twice
>gets no kills
>still gets midas + relic at 14min
How is he so fucking good. Jesus christ.
are there any "real" dota2 hacks? or its just a myth
im sure there are designer hacks somewhere out there that cost a fortune
>>137190952
At least he can pretend that buying a Midas is okay on WK.
>>137191075
gabe was like "hmm lina burning fire make her hot woman guys"
>>137191274
Me first.
>>137189108
Why do people badmouth manta on alch though?
>>137191274
I actually won with this guy today. he combos pretty well with void
>>137179261
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co_OD--08Ok
who techies here
>>137191459
which channel?
>>137191451
What's the fucking point of Manta on Alch? If you want to dodge spells, get a BKB. If you want the illusions to boost your DPS, you're fucking retarded. If you want the movespeed, you already have BoTs. If you want an upgraded ultimate orb, get something better like a Skadi or someshit.
>>137191347
>>137191404
>buying Midas on WK
Why tho.
You get brown boots magic wand and rush blink dagger then start farming enemy heroes with your "15%" chance crit and 2 second stun 8 second cooldown nuke.
As long as you don't die with level 1 ult, you're fine. Level 2 ult isn't that great, but it's not unbearable like level 1 ult is.
>>137190940
hey i tried ok, i dont post very often
>>137191470
It seems like he relies too heavily on setups for his ult
>>137191438
I like SD but he sucks unless you break some skills
>>137191459
nice
>those roots
>>137191609
The start of the conversation was the retard asking for item builds for Midas gaming on Silencer and Spirit Breaker. Specifically, asking what items he should buy before starting on the Midas. Because he can't farm creeps *OR* get kills after laning phase on either hero.
>>137191596
Who is this qt
>>137191438
At least shadowdemon is great against single target melee hard carries. Too bad he is trash against PL.
>>137191316
plz respond
>we are going to defeat NA...
>by becoming an NA team
the absolutest of all maddened men
only Clement "nyxpicker" Ivanov could have devised it.
![o1orW[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/bYf7n3F.jpg "o1orW[1].jpg")
reminder that if you don't build lifestealer similar to this you are the reason he has a sub-50% winrate.
>>137191316
they aren't that expensive and will always exist, no matter what the game is. I use to surf a forum for the fuck of it to see if there was anything worth buying for the fuck of it. Most of them are just really boring.
>>137191316
Broxybot is a myth.
Scripts are legit so they say though they haven't worked for me, I put them in the autoexec and all but nothing happens.
>>137191904
i build mine with butterfly skadi
why is there a plus by posts
>>137191668
>It seems like he relies too heavily on setups for his ult
yeah, but I think you could also use his skills as big CC. like if the enemy is pushing a tower and you can get a spirit in behind them and Q they will get fucked by mini song of siren unless they move forward into you. I think maybe his ult can be value to be used in similar ways. they can both fracture an enemy position is what I'm saying. then it's just the problem of you fighting 4v5 in the actual fight that follows (though is aura is god tier ofc)
>>137191904
Why aghs and why vlads?
And why would you play lifestealer when alchemist dumpsters him at all points in the game?
>>137191482
I watched like 2 minutes of this shit video and everything that happens in it happens to me every game or so of techies. Maximum boring.
>>137190369
wasn't broxybot banned after valve found out?
>4chan is now actively tracking and tabulating youvotes per post
or is it a shitty meme tier 4chanx?
>>137192137
>>137192014
It's not like we want EETEEZY.
That gay love can fuck off into the memedumpster. They kicked w33 and misery for this poisonous snake rtc.
>>137192249
its probably a multiscript and the operator uses several accounts
>>137191897
>NA team
>not Kebab team
>>137192123
Aura is god tier if they don't have AC/vlads and pipe. Only ult goes through BKB right?
Gabe is going to fucking kill himself I swear to god
>>137191575
Broxybot is a myth. This guy is lying.
>>137190832
CM is elder god tier, but only if you have the autocaptain script.
>>137192267
>tfw can't shitpost with upboats because it is detected as spam
>>137191609
shitters can't into holding reincarnation skill point until if/when they need it
>>137192302
>It's not like we want EETEEZY.
But I do want that, more than a season two of my favorite show.
To: 137192267
Meme apps only. Won't get my (sinä)
>>137192504
This. I'm not even a WK player and it triggers me when they automatically skill ult at 6
>>137192302
>RTZ+The today's best offlaner in the entire west
Viable?
>>137192429
>shanghai major not even on the list of older updates
heh
>>137192669
That's not Iceiceice
>>137192148
he's a pocket semi-carry. you literally spend most of the mid/late game inside of your allies, this allows you to pop out, pop rage and open wounds, and have infest off of cooldown to pop right back inside after yo uget focused. the auras are to compliment that playstyle. radiance is absolutely core as it allows you to passively get last hits (most of my cs in that game is from radiance).
aghanims scepter is for assimilate, it lets you put allies inside of you. this is amazing for 3-man naix bombs, but I mostly get it for what I call the exit bag. see an ally dying? assimilate them, rage tp out. also works great in teamfights because if you save a hero like death prophet from dying, it keeps their ult in the fight.
>>137192851
4.2k gold to save a teammate. seems legit
>>137192390
it should increase damage a lot. with no pipe/cloak it ups magic damage by about 33%. yeah that's right about bkbs
Holy shit how did arteezy only win with boots and cloack?
>>137192982
4.2k gold to not lose the game?
lifestealer is a 30% winrate carry, he is trash played that way.
>>137191438
>Had a SD daily one day
>our offlane Brew tower dived the fucking safelane NS 4 times in the first 10 minutes (making us feed while trying to save him) and rage-abandoned because we told him he was retarded for expecting us to not wipe if it didn't work the first 3 times
>he died midlane to tower while he was split up
>sell off his items, get myself a fast greaves and force staff
>keep our worthless Viper alive whenever he decides to randomly walk along into the enemy jungle and get stunlocked for it
>every teamfight is 5-6 stacks of balanced unlimited magic damage
>eventually NS always wastes his spells on me while the Viper is right-clicking his ass to death thinking that it'd stop me
>collect fat stacks of post-humous kill gold every teamfight
>get aghs
>just drop all 3 purge charges on a sucker and kill them before the fight ever starts. Usually the WR or Lina or ET
>win game
Shadow Demon is such a situationally dependent pick but when he works, he very well damn works.
ET used to be like that. Well even better since he was a strong bullshit pick regardless of draft most of the time in his heyday. Now he's just situationally combo-able. I miss spamming ET in games, especially when I had to deal with Morphling and PA mainers all the time.
>>137192851
Vlads are also for the aura?
I guess 2X lifesteal is good too.
>>137193016
Maybe they should make aura aoe bigger, it's like 200 radius or some shit right now
>>137192148
>when alchemist dumpsters him at all points in the game?
N'aix is the anti-STR carry. A raging N'aix with a Basher and Open Wounds just deletes his HP bar in seconds. What are you smoking? Alch maybe could have an advantage when it's 7-slotted Alch vs 7-slotted N'aix but not before.
>>137193239
if they upped it even just a little I bet you'd see a bump in his winrate
>>137193163
both cuirass and vlads are for the aura. feast is counted as base damage, so from that 7.5% hp damage you get 15% bonus damage and 15% bonus lifesteal.
>>137193239
>>137193138
heres a thought, pick him with burst heroes and just buy a veil on him, subsequently go refresher.
play him as a support pos 4
>>137180586
Radiant v Dire is not Good v Evil you dipshit.
Both sides are just as horrible as the other.
What does this + thing next to posts do???
Heroes you wished weren't mediocre.
>Necrophos
>Morphling
>Weaver
>>137193402
But you don't have any armour. Alch drops acid and deletes him because he hits so much faster. All you need is one attack speed item and niax will die in one stun under acid.
>>137193630
Night Stalker.
Fuck I miss when the hero pool was 2012 small and Night Stalker could win mid against half of his opponents.
>>137193630
>Necrophos
it seems like he would be fun but then you play him and realise you are basically doing nothing 90% of the time
>>137193630
NECRO is mediocre. You heard it here first.
DUDE is mediocre. You heard it here first.
Two of the strongest heroes in the game are 'mediocre'. holy fuck im triggered.
>>137180586
>>137193604
>Both sides are just as horrible as the other.
This.
It's like you never read the Are We Heroes Yet? comic.
>>137193517
>pick a hero that gets a lot of damage from a skill
>don't play him as a core
It frustrates me
>>137193630
>Magnus
0.3s cast point is such a turn off
>>137193802
he is until ultra late game
He becomes mediocre ultra late game
>naix assimilate to save an ally
I haven't really seen this in action yet. does the ally have any say in the matter? can the ally accidentally pop out and die if they're retarded?
>>137194070
>>137194128
theres a 2 second grace period where the ally cant do anything, after that any button or movement pops out. you never see it cause people build ls as a carry but its an amazing ability
>>137193802
there are things you don't take in account for necro
>slow
>farms like shit
>low base damage
>no stuns
>ultimate can only be used under certain conditions
>everything you use is starting from 200 mana
>farm dependent
>not good as other carry's
>easy to blow up
>>137194271
I can imagine it's really good, almost like the phoenix ult
>>137193738
>Alch drops acid and deletes him because he hits so much faster.
You are severely overestimating early game Alch's whacking potential, especially against a hero who is designed to counter fat STR carries.
All N'aix needs is a Basher after boots/midas and he can easily kill the Alchemist with one attack speed item even at lv 11.
If N'aix lanes with someone against Alch (or even solo), Alch is fucked for the first 20 minutes unless he can find safe farm elsewhere, and even then it might not be enough because N'aix can buy items when Alch can too.
>>137194342
>farms like shit
2k pls leave. Maybe if you're skilling heartstopper over sadist.
>>137194117
an increase of flat 30s to respawn is ridiculous. it can straight win you games with aghs refresher ulties.
>>137194005
the damage isnt there for any appreciable length of time though. it only lasts 9s, even with the 16s cd, you would only have it up dependent on your mana.
just play him as an int initiator. you will have more success imo
>>137194507
I used to pick Naix a lot, but I hated how he could only really wail at one guy at a time in a teamfight.
you rage, you kill (or fail to kill) one guy, and then you die, almost like a badUrsa
![Earth_Splitter_icon[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/d7cXz2E.png "Earth_Splitter_icon[1].png")
>Earth Splitter slows starts as soon as a unit touches it, not when it explodes
Better?
>>137194607
aghs now reduces am's mana void cd and mana cost. AM becomes the greatest anticaster known to man.
it'll be broken as fuck but am needs some love
>>137194607
Antimage Aghs upgrade
Manavoid drains 150/225/300 mana on the target before applying the damage
>>137194607
Mana Void now echoes to targets hit by it with less than 100% mana.
>>137194667
that is true, that's why icefrog gave him ancients at 6 and a 50 second cooldown on ult. his ult is for ambushes now, not healing so much. go with the carry and be his bodyguard.
>>137194507
Depends on who gets the jump or the bash I guess.
>>137194796
you lose the zoning utility that the ult provides. if you blow your load before reaching max range its just a more damaging impale.
>>137194847
this is actually great, though desu I would make this his ult without aghs (like Pudge Dismember)
>>137194653
Initiator ET is boring, I want to get SnY and whack people. They should buff the duration of the spirit buff so I can play him as a right click core.
>>137194517
>he farms fast
>compared to...
farms faster than lion
>>137194667
I liked Maelstrom as a first real item on him for this reason. Just spam right-clicks on your slowed target or the creep wave and proc lightning bolts everywhere so that the enemy all scatters or dies trying. Later upgrade it to Mjollnir and just laugh maniacally as your lifesteal sustain keeps the lightning bolts proc'ing as the enemy team wails on you.
>>137195018
>wasting farm on a SnY on ET
Hyperstone into AC is always better for ET. ET's problem isn't that he gets kited. It's that his worthless stomp is channeled and that his nice aura only kills base armour and doesn't affect +armour.
>>137195018
accept the fact that carry titan is dead anon. the meta demands that you initiate to win. try the veil refresher build tho. its alright
>>137195039
I like that too. but yeah i don't pick him anymore.
>>137194607
Any unit hit by mana void is hit by an additional second mini mana void.
Deals damage based on missing mana at a .4/.5/.6 ratio, ministuns, and affects all units within 325 radius.
