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>EO Guides, References, Music, Art Books, etc.
http://pastebin.com/6cmH2LjS

>EOV Information
http://sq-atlus.jp/sq5/
https://mega.nz/#!SghiWI6J!SyUwZs2X9oLHP-rfmVvF_j0QjeI1lA2HSrU4C6qs0eY (Nico stream)

>EO2U Grimoire Collection
http://pastebin.com/uTt9sWvf

>EO2U Recipe + Advertisement
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Bh2wEBRjhpqPpTfZA5jIclHpE1ZXHzYtUeoS7nQO4jM/edit#gid=37367097

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First for Wynne > Ricky.
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>>137019581
Live2D?
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Towering Pair is the only battle theme where the new version clearly beats the FM one
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>>137019805
Who was Wynne again
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>>137020238
EOIV shop keeper.
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EO4 is the worst one honestly. Dungeons were not only annoying, but they were small and shallow. You have a huge 30x30 grid or whatever and some dungeons were only like 8x8
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>>137020152
And meanwhile, all the new stratum themes are amazing
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>>137020238
harder den steel I've never actually seen this in game. I feel like I keep forgetting to check her dialogue at some point early in the game
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>>137021291
First floor of the first stratum
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>>137019805
Dicky the Wynny.
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>>137023019
Rym the Wynne?
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>>137019848
Rest easy Troub, your force break is so broken it puts even fafnir to shame.
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>decide tochange my A/M's arcana rods to panic fleuret and hauteclair
>find out I sold my hauteclair when its not in its treasure chest

Son of a bitch. Oh well, panic flauet has procced every single time i've auto attacked, so its reliable enough.
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>>137023278
Pin the Wynne. On your dick.
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Nin Nin motherfucker.
Izunas headed your way
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I'm really starting to hate the 3rd stratum in EOU2... I might just put it on Picnic to get past it. Anyone else feel the same way when they got to this place?
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>>137028005
not at all, no
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>>137028005
EO2 actually has the only 3rd stratum that I liked.
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>>137028005
Let me guess, your first EO game was EO4.
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Why are the bosses HP in EOU2 so inflated? It's obnoxious.

>>137028439
Mine was, I played the original EO2 just fine.
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>>137028386
>not liking the Azure Rainforest
>not liking the Golden Lair
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>>137028439
3 actually

>>137028352
>>137028386
Guess it's just me then. What level do you guys recommend to be at before fighting Esbat/Scyllia?
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>>137028743
38-40 for scylla, about 35 should be okay for esbat
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>>137028743
I just beat them at 36 on expert with the story party, so i'd say anywhere around there is fine, maybe even earlier if you're on classic.
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>>137028743
34ish for the first.
37ish for the second.
Unless you're doing Story, I have no advice for that.
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in EOIV, do binds count as 'ailments'?
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>>137028816
>>137028858
>>137028875
Forgot to mention that I'm on classic but thanks for the tips. I tried fighting Esbat the first time at 34 and they were hitting pretty hard - doesn't help that they have a ton of HP
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>Charging Chopper Hares look like the classic sprites
Cool
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>>137029052
In any EO game (EMD is not a EO game)
Binds are binds
Ailments are ailments
Buff/Debuff are buff/debuff
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>>137029243
A ton of HP? Not really, they're a pretty straight case of "short but with strong moves" type of boss.
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>EOU
>Trying to get a better Front Guard grim so Highlander can better protect Raq during Bravery's Gift turns
>An hour of spamming four-leaf clovers and hunting horns has yielded nothing
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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>>137034390
don't do it unless you are level 90 or more
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>Slantwise Cut not affected by Arm Bind
fuck
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>>137039345
Now we're talking, none of the blue shit.
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>>137039345
>I'm going to need to choose between vanilla, chocolate, and blue raspberry multiple times when creating my party.
I've never had trouble with names but this is going to set me back hours.
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>>137040789
Don't worry, only elves get blue.
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Is there anything more despicable then the Blizzard King?
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>>137042741
The Blizzard Kings that actually got people killed.
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>>137042741
Squirrels.
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>>137019581
I want to use that thing as an onahole.
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What Alch to use
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Anyone have the necro picture with the "good luck, I'm behind 7000 skeletons" line?
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>>137045032
That one.
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What's a good party and subclasses to base around bushi and arcanist main?

? / B / ?
? / A
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>>137045032
Short hair and glasses never fail.
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>>137046249
Cute boy
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>>137042741
>then
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>>137045032
Is that a serious question?
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>>137045032
Use the Arthur
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>>137045032
The best one.
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Why is the boiling lizard so hard? What level should I be to face it?
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JRpg General seems to be gone.

Anyone here playing 7th dragon 2020? Got an English patch a few days ago
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>>137045032
I reclassed fang war magus into one. Both alchemists are ugly.
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who 2/3 here rather than 3/2
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>>137048030
Depends on the game.
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>>137047718
You should be playing smart.
Eat that food that gives fire/ice ^^^ + vit (I think)
Make sure you have a billion ice spike items to take out the scales he throws in battle
Bind and ailments

Don't just hit him until he kills you
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>>137048030
>>137048203
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>>137048018
>Both
>Automatically discarding one gender
casual

>>137048030
L/B // Sov/A/G here.
Shit's tight
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>>137048018
Found the gay.
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>>137048318
>using men in EO
Faaaaaaaaag.
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>>137048318
Kung Fu alchemist is fine, but I still won't use one.
I can't remember at all what the fourth one looked like.

>>137048528
UGLY
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>>137048749
>UGLY
The opinions of queers mean nothing.
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>>137048215
Oh, those ice spikes are usable in battle? I didn't know that.

But what level do you think is best, still? I'm using binds and ailments as much as I can, but they rarely last more than one turn on a boss.
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>>137046249
>>137047450
>>137047695
Homos please go
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I'm not really a fan of glasses or short hair, but I think my opinion of this alchemist is slowly rising. Maybe I'll end up actually liking her by the time I start my classic playthrough.
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>>137048819
UGLY

Also, what kind of shitty alchemist can't make potions, homunculus, weird but useful items or other biological monstrosities?
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>>137049061
>>Oh, those ice spikes are usable in battle? I didn't know that.
You poor fuck. The scales in battle leave you vulnerable to massive damage unless you destroy them and the ice spikes do the best job of it.

I'm perpetually overleveled since I spend too much time unlocking every item so I don't know.
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>>137048554
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>>137049072
No.
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>>137049061
You even got a runemaster at the Dancing Peacock commenting on how he's so much of a failure that he has to strike monsters with those things.

>>137049326
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>>137049673
Not canon
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>>137045032
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>Boyposters
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I bought EOU on release day some years ago.

I still havent played it.

Don't know to if story mode is worth the grind just for the extra dungeon + katana.
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>>137050147
>posting the worst class in the entire series
>not even a single good portrait on top of that
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>>137049061
>Barely last more than one turn
Christ what?
What level are you
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>>137050279
yes
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>>137050430
but the characters are so BORING
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>>137050346
>Dissing cutest girl
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>>137050380
I think you read that wrong. What he means is that ailments and binds wear off after only one turn.
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>>137050147
No boys here, only cute girls.
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>>137050483
While you did post the best Zodiac, none of them are good overall.
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>>137050565
But you just posted a boy
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>>137050346
Come on anon, don't make such obvious lies.
Although they could do without dragon wings
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>>137049281
The kind that transmutes your blood into fucking poison. Or used to before getting nerfed.
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>>137050493
Oh hehe.
So I did.

>>137050565
I guess I'll start then
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>>137050346
>hating both fluffy Zodiac and deadpan Zodiac at the same time
Holy shit anon what the fuck
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>>137050346
Actually, which class is the weakest in the entire series? Zodiacs were at least involved in something semi broken, surely there must be a more useless class than that.
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>>137050482
Really? I actually found them pretty funny and effective. I guess it's because I wasn't expecting Xenogears-tier characters for the game, instead I was expecting some simple but cool characters, and it's exactly what I got.
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>>137051726
Zodiac is definitely in the top 5 worst. Shit like EO2 Beast and Wildling are strong contenders.
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>>137051726
Wildling, maybe
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>>137050346
Wow those sure are some trash opinions you've got right there.
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>>137052257
Orange is worst Zodiac
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>>137050346
>hoplite guy pls
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>>137053141
Orange is the only worthwhile Zodiac.
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>>137053141
Purple>Orange>Men
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>>137052072
>>137052094
>hating wildlings

>>137050483
>>137050587
>best zodiac
>not black and white zodiac

Is there anybody here with decent taste?
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This is a word-cloud of last thread. How does it make you feel?
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>This conversation
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>>137053651
>party game

SAKURAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAI
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>>137053640
I love the Wildling, one of my favorite classes, but I'd be lying if I said they weren't garbage.
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>>137053651
how do you make those?
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>>137053837
http://catalog.neet.tv/harlequin.html
Make sure you read the instructions carefully.
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>>137053651
>Fear Teach
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Clearly the best Zodiac
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>>137053640
Not you.
Didn't even post either of the best Wildings

>>137053651
>Force Story Kill
>Always Skill Damage
>Imperial Binds Bushi
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How do you guys like to play EO?

My favourite time to play tucked in bed at 1 AM with some nice headphones on. It really immerses you in with the benefit of being damn comfy at the same time.

On that note, what's your favourite stratum, theme, and class/portrait?

Tell me everything, /eog/. I love to hear how other people enjoy EO.
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>>137054087
>stratum
Autumn Thicket
>theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KmcSXVyzzM
>class
I had the most fun with the Dancer.
>portrait
pic related. Also really liking the male Warlock.
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>>137054087
>Same, the last couple of hours before I fall asleep is best for comfy exploring
>EOU2's Petal Bridge
>https://youtu.be/3KmcSXVyzzM
>Pic related
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>>137049061
You fell for the binds meme. Respec your party.
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If you could take one EO class and subclass any other EO class with it, what you would do?

What do you think would be the most powerful?
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>>137053651
I need to post more Ricky
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>>137053651
I love playing "find the word combos" whenever I see one of these.
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>>137028386
Same for me
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>>137055192
>build walls
Make Yggdrasil great again.
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>>137055192
>status lolis
>not find lolis leg
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>>137055192
>volley spam
>sniper without hits
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>>137053651
>feel flavio
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>>137055463
>not taking the first letters from always to make lolis legal
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>>137055127
I'm trying to combine Fafir and Imperial in my head to see if I can come up with some overpowered bullshit.
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>>137055673
Add bunny ears so you can quad wield drive blades.
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>>137055192
>bosses stop Flavio
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>>137053994
>Imperial Binds Bushi
Lewd
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>>137055803
You're a madman.
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>>137055924
>tfw no art of Arachne tenderly loving Flavio
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>>137055803
>Four Elemental Waves in succession, each dealing a fraction of an Elemental Drive for every hit
>Delayed Chase will activate off of each individual one
>You can Accelerate to perform 12 actions in a single turn

How much higher can we stack this? How much more broken can we make this imaginary class tri-fusion?
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>>137055127
Buccaneer/Nightseeker so I can dual-wield a pistol and sword without having to be a shogun. I'm not sure if it'd be all that useful, but it'd be cool.
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>>137055127
EO2U Land and EO4 Land.
Links in a game that has elemental chasers as well sounds funny.
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>>137050346
I'm with you. The guys have always looked bad, and the girls only look good in fan art. The dragon fin backpack shoulder pad thing is stupid.

>>137055127
I'd want war magus subbed arcanist for supper utility and passive ailments to land Ailing Slashes. Most overpowered would probably be something like Fafnir/Bushi or Nightseeker/Fafnir.
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>>137052072
What makes zodiacs so bad? I used one before and they're amazing. Singularity boosts your damage against an enemy's weakness by 50% and Etheric Charge triples your elemental damage next turn. Both those even apply to Limit abilities.
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>>137060236
IMO They're pretty good in a game that has broken as fuck things.
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>>137060236
zodiacs get outclassed hard after subclassing UNTIL abyssal god if you go for Z/G
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>>137060236
Biggest problem with zodiacs imo, is that they're so SP intensive.
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>>137060460
DukeBurgr
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>>137060460
Detroit.
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>>137060460
Cafe Lune, to go with my guild name of Goldlune
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>>137060460
BunyHouse
I hate the 9-character limit. ATLUS USA just doesn't give a shit.
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>>137060460
Heorot.
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>>137060460
Vanaheimr. I do the Norse thing a lot.
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>>137060460
Deermeat
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>>137028537
If their HP wasn't so bloated the fights would end so fucking fast its not even funny. Almost all classes are capable of pulling off ridiculous amounts of damage, either alone or in synergy.
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>>137060460
Crossroad. I would probably be happier with the name if they called it "Cafe Crossroad" more often in the script.
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>>137060410
I never found my zodiac outclassed even throughout post game. You don't need to sub gladiator either considering Singularity greatly boosts your damage and almost every enemy has an elemental weakness.
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>>137063242
Z/G gets you freezing blow which due to STR formula being way better than TEC formula you just get way more damage AND hit weakness on abyssal god
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>>137060460
Coffeehole
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What gives the larger EXP bonus for the active party, Yggdrasil-Clover Tea, or the Monster Fish Panino?
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>>137064672
Yggdrasil is 300%
Panino is about 140%
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>>137065082
It's 120% according to the datamining guys.
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I hate these fuckers.
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>>137065368
I never realized how good that darker green is for fog rooms until now.
I've been seriously using the yellow for it until this point.
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What's a fun subclass for Buccaneer?
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>>137067506
gladiator
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>>137067506
The guild house
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>>137067506
Gladiator
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>>137067506
Ninja for instant death swashbuckling.
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>>137067862
>>137067982
That's for the clubs skills, right?
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>>137069658
That's for Charge which is good on everything physical.
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>>137070061
Remember to train your body so the meteors you call down from the heavens hit harder.
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>1. Unhand Me, then Sunlight's Dawn
I'm in the fifth cycle of this phase, and so far, it's only used Twilight's Gleam once during the second cycle. Will it ever end up using SD in this phase, or is the wiki just completely full of shit?
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>That one boss that's absurdly obnoxious until when you figure out its gimmick.
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>>137072272
>7th dragon 2020
when did this get translated?
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>>137072439
Like 2 days ago
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>>137072494
I thought this was a joke but it's true.
http://gematsu.com/2016/03/7th-dragon-2020-fan-translation-patch-released
Downloads within.
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>>137072494
Now if only P2 batsu portable also get a translation
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>>137070684
Does it scale with Tec of Str?
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>>137073046
Tec, I was just making a joke about how charge works with meteor which seems silly.
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>>137073046
Good thing I still have this laying around
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Is Level 38 overpowered for B14F in EO3? I was able to beat the Savage Beast and Deep Coistrel as soon as I saw them. The only thing I haven't tried to kill is the Deep Prelate.
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>>137073698
Maybe a bit.
I'm pretty sure I was around that level when I hit the last floor in the 4th stratum, but it's been a while.
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>get to new floor
>new foe is blue outline
goddamn it I overleveled again
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>>137060460
Cafe Mars
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>>137075694
>Clear out Gladsheim before I go through a stratum
>New FOE is yellow

>Get a Ginnungagap quest in classic mode
>FOEs are yellow in Ginnungagap

They just can't balance this shit
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>>137072494
Well call me a slowpoke.
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>>137075694
>2 character IV run where you add the NPCs as they're unlocked
>FOEs always blue
>10 levels higher than Wufan
>8 levels higher than Kibagami
Not to say I'm surprised.
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>>137076584
>two character IV run where you add NPCs
Someone else has done this?
I thought I was the only one.
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>>137076845
I've been working on it for a few weeks. Just reached the Cloudy Stronghold.

I picked Fort and Dancer because they're classes I haven't used yet, but once I get Logre into the guild my front row is going to overflow. Bad planning there.
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>>137072272
So how do you level up skills/unlock skill in this game?
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>>137077212
Fight enemies and spend SP.

New skills are gated by plot advancement.
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>>137077341
Does Hacker, Destroyer, and Samurai sound like a good team?
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>>137077882
You can get by with pretty much any party once as long as your spend your SP correctly.
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>>137060460
Apicius's
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If they ever do EO3, they're gonna port in a Landshark
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>>137082139
They already did EO3 a couple years ago.
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>>137082139
Prime wife material.
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>>137084372
wat?
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>Trusting anything from the labyrinth
Did the mimics teach you nothing?
NOTHING can be trusted.
Trust no chest, event, FOE, little girl's voice, shiny spot, etc.
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>>137086579
I don't know either friend.
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War Revive
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>>137091521
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Reposting because I'm a faggot.

Ok, call me mad but I kind of want to play EMD again after I sold my copy I bought on day of release.

How do I go about having a bearable playthrough? I kind of want to solo it with a Ninja because those palette swaps are fine.
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>>137092447
use only teach and mediko
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>>137092447
I think soloing it would help a bunch actually, since the AI for your guild is atrocious. The game it's based off of has you going solo too.
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>>137054087
That's pretty much my favorite way to play too.

Favorite Classes: Brown DH, Mascot Gunner and Green Gunner, Blue Hexer, BEASTS, and I'm already really into Hound

Favorite Stratum: Echoing Library (Including the Library Caves since EO4's strata are all fucked up)

Favorite Themes: The Green Green Woodlands, The Vast Primeval Hidden Grove, The Withered Forest, The Lounge Where We Speak of Tomorrow, The Wind Doesn't Draw Heroes, Ever-Scarlet Forest, Woodland of Frozen Flowers, Inspecting the Resounding Weapons, The Ancient Capital Enveloped by the Great Tree, The King Forgotten by Time, The Blue Sea Temple of Ritual, The Vengeful God in the Dark Ocean Abyss, Their Own Brand of Justice, Library of Puppets, City of Radiant Ruin (It's hard to narrow down, Yuzo Koshiro is why I picked up the series in the first place)

Favorite Shopkeeper: Shilleka
Favorite Barkeep: Cass
Favorite Innkeeper: Dalla
Favorite Guildmaster: Marion
Favorite Official: Dubois

I color under my doors, and draw walls around sky in EO2U's Petal Bridge
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>>137092447
I'm playing through it right now and my plan so far has gone from
>Shark/Gunner/Hexer/Medic
>Holy shit this AI
>Solo Wanderer
>Wanderer is boring
>Solo Ninja
Currently grinding my ninja before taking on the next dungeon. Second choice for solo would probably be Runemaster for ridiculous damage.
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How does the bonus for altering class work in EOU2? I know the stat growth is the same.

But what's the difference between training down to 30, and altering class into the same class? Because it looks like you can do that.
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>>137093852
Alter classing doesn't boost stats. It just lowers your level by 5 and changes your class to something else. You still have the same stat growth as the initial class.
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>>137094147
"By dropping [Adventurer's] level by five, the adventure can assume a new class with bonus stats and Skill Points."

I knew the game was bad with typos, but if you're right, they really fucking dropped the ball on this one. Thanks for the info.
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>>137094147
Has anyone bothered with that? I figure you can do some crazy stuff with it but I never tried it out.
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>>137054087
Stratum: Porcelain Forest
Theme: Faith is my Pilliar, End of Raging *, The Withered Forest.
Class: Ronin or Highlander
Portrait: Bandanashark
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>>137095048
Well some classes it's better to change to a DH instead of keeping them in their normal class since their Force Boost is better. ex: Gunner Alter Classed to Dark Hunter does more damage with Force Boost, Burst Shot 10, Point Blank 10 than Regular Gunner does with Force Boost, Burst Shot 20, Point Blank 20

Another thing that can be done is Alter Class a Medic to Dark Hunter and give them an Ailing Slash grimoire. That gives the highest damage potential to Ailing Slash.
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>>137086675

You can trust the hot soup and warm bread.
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revive
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>>137048318
alch and gunner?
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>>137104979
Alt. color is better.
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>>137105236
too old

Those hips aint loli hexer
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>>137095509
Can you elaborate on this DH business?
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>>137105236
Why do Hexers never show their arms?
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>>137106914
Dark Hunter's Force Boost multiplies damage by 2. Fafnir's Force Boost multiplies damage by 1.5. Alchemist's Force Boost multiplies damage by 1.65 if the enemy is weak to the element. Gunner's Force Boost technically multiplies damage by 1.6. Highlander's Force Boost multiplies damage by 1.5. And Landy's Force Boost with Fencer 20 multiplies damage by 1.65.

You can see how Alter Classing to Dark Hunter can help boost damage since their Force Boost is better than everyone else's.
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>>137106540
Who said lolis can't have hips?
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got a question to you anon
I've been playing etrian odyssey IV
know i've been thinking to get another from this series
should I wait for V or is just buy untold 1/2 ??
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>>137110025
Buy Untold 2 and play classic.
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Post Sarashi.
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>>137086675
Can you imagine?
>get to a new stratum
>like 20 or something
>go to the pillar of purple light to warp back to town
>you're on 3 with no TP and everyone with half health or worse you just barely made it past the last boss
>F O E PURPLE BEAM
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>>137114157
EOMD made me think about breeding foes to release in the dungeon either for grinding purposes or as a puzzle to distract other foes
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So I foudn out theres a game save editor caleld TharsisForge for EOIV. Unfortunatly, for a multitude of reasons, I can't use it, which totally sucks, because now instead of jsut cheating stat books and warped cores into the game, i'll have to earn them.
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Sometimes looking up pays off
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>>137054087
Stratum: Hall of Darkness. Or Petal Bridge for aesthetics.
Theme: Lost Shinjuku
Class: linksknecht maybe?
Portrait: Bandanashark. Or fluffymaster, or himeko, or lolidancer.
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>>137093195
Innkeeper: Quona
Shopkeeper: Abigail
Guildhouse master: Rosa
Barkeep: Cass
Guildmaster: Marion
Official: the Marquis
Town: Tharsis

I'm gonna miss High Lagaard NPCs.
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>>137072670
Is there a way to play this on a PSP? The guide suggests to press the L-button to change the keyboard to English while using an emulator, but on a physical PSP this doesn't seem to work.

Just using moon runes doesn't work either, for whichever reason (doesn't register as text once the keyboard closes).
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I want to get into this series. I played the EOU1 demo and had fun.

Would it be better to get EOU1 or spend the money and get EOU2? I don't mind the extra cost if the gameplay is better.
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>>137126678
Get 4 instead, its the most beginner friendly, and you'll need that so you know what youre getting into with the other games.
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>>137126678
EO2U is a lot better than EOU in both classic mode as well as story mode.

EOIV is my favorite, though.
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>at one point Daliah was going to be Ricky
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>>137127473
I want to marry Deliah.
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>make imperial soldiers all about drive blades
>have NPCs wield spears
Though I guess the same is true of Vessel.
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>>137127867
Spears are probably a better weapon for fighting in a formation + cheaper to teach someone to use.
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>>137129617
Then what about all those poorfag no-experience soldiers that are at the Explorers Guild but use drive blades anyways?
Where are spears in the shop at all?
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>>137126678
Literally start with 4
I'd hate it if you didn't like 4, but 4 is a great game and it's unlikely you'll hate it. Then playing U1 and U2 with their better conveniences won't cripple you from playing 4

1/2/3 are good too but outside of 3 are real dated U1 and U2 are literally 1 and 2 remakes which means we might get a U3 so start with 4
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>>137124187
>Keeping Petal Bridge green instead of pink
>All those unfinished walls and tiles not filled in
Absolutely disgusting
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>>137127473
Cutest innkeeper.
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>>137127473
That sketch feels familiar
>ポメラニアン
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http://sq-atlus.jp/sq5/character/
They aren't even activating the other classes, let alone extra portraits.
The information stream truly has come to a halt after they presented each class on twitter.
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>>137135280
We could try to speculate on silly details.
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>>137131292
The imperials you can recruit at the guild probably aren't poorfags then? No experience =/= no education.

There are no classes in EO4 that use spears, why would you be given the option of buying something useless?
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>>137135280
I can't help but think they're not as far along as they said they were.
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>>137132576
U1 doesn't really have better conveniences, aside from maybe floor jump. The grimoire system in U1 is awful. U2's is about as good as it's gonna get when it comes to grimoires, though. I still prefer subclassing, but I don't have any problems with U2's grimoires either.
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>>137135607
... It kinda looks like they're holding assault rifles.
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>>137135802
Ok good I'm not the only one who thought that
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>>137135717
>U1 doesn't really have better conveniences, aside from maybe floor jump
Running.
More battle speed options.
Ailment/bind resistance charts.
Perfected autopaths.
Dynamic icons.
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>>137135650
They could've had one of the Fortress' weapon options be spears with no changes to the skills, but lock them out of the mace skills because you get access to ranged attacks. Arcanist might also fit.
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>>137135954
>Ailment/bind resistance charts
>Different Autopathing
>Dynamic icons
U2 introduced those though.

>>137135607
I'd imagine that the disconnected parts on the models are the crystal things on the end of their lightsaber-spears.
But that would mean they're holding it a wonky way, or at least a lot different then the one we can see.
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>>137136045
Or imperials since NPCs, even Baldur's close guards, were so eager to wield them.
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>>137135954
You could run in IV, no? It's been a while, but I seem to remember that you could move quickly starting from the 3DS games. I might be wrong though. The rest is minimal to me, but I can understand others might disagree.
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>>137135650
Why wouldn't they be poorfags? They couldn't even afford a full equipment set and what they have is the cheapest stuff around.
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>>137136336
That'd mean you need Drive Spears, unless you want to lock them out of all their offensive skills.
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>>137136561
>Drive Spears
That actually sounds really cool
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>>137136416
Nope. I think you might have moved faster in a couple scripted events where you couldn't control movement, but no running while exploring the dungeons.
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