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Ded but not defeated.
>What is this?
A general for all strategic, operational, and tactical war games that can't generate enough traffic to sustain their own generals. ARMA need not apply.
>Old thread
>Attention Grabbing tags:
/wgg/ /rtt/ /rts/ /rtsg/ /tsg/ /mowg/ /mowassg/ /ctag/
>Example welcome games:
Wargame: Red Dragon
Combat Mission
Call to Arms
Flashpoint Campaigns
Graviteam Tactics
Theatre of War
Men of War
Command: Modern Air Naval Operations
Armored Brigade
Close Combat
Steel Beasts
Steel Panthers MBT
CMANO
>Graviteam DLC:
http://pastebin.com/TwMLZQ6h (embed)
>Interesting history links:
Cold War military technology ads:
http://www.vintageadbrowser.com/military-ads-1980s
/wgg/ misc Cold War literature:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/zfm69f0k91pmf0y/wgg-lit-v1.3.rar
The Soviet Army: troops, organization & equipment
http://fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm100-2-3.pdf
USMC intelligence North Korea handbook:
http://fas.org/nuke/guide/dprk/nkor.pdf
Everything there is to know about the T-62:
http://thesovietarmourblog.blogspot.my/2015/12/t-62.html
>Steamgroups:
/wgg/ old group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/VG-Wargamers
/wgg/ new group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dedgamededthread
Uralmod official group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Uralgraznomod
/wgg/ Men of War / Call to Arms Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ReReaGa
>Teamspeak server
uralmod.typefrag.com:7495
>Legacy Wargame General pasta and game-info repository:
http://pastebin.com/70Nwcb5m (embed)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lon0cgmjfqwq1oi/WargameRD_Hidden_Knowledge_Spreadsheet.xlsx?dl=0
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UvBiH3lrCFzLYnRzNzF49yVtaNHYLfi7dgMpNE517RM/
>Mius Front Link:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9C_KBrk6cmCcTBmN0lqNG9ocVE/view
Bump
>>136413651
Thanks for bumping with me, my friend.
Page 7 already. It's over lads.
>>136414126
>T-64A
>NVA markings
triggered
Anybody interested in a Steel Panthers WW2 aar as germany?
Credit to the autistic posters that keep this place bumped during the slow periods. It's fucking work.
>>136414296
I thought it too at first, but it's actually early T-72 Ural (early production batches had T-64A turret).
>>136414126
No Problem
>>136414834
Thanks, love ya
I love Battle for Wesnoth but the Tolkien theme annoys me. Is there another free wargame with random that does not use Tolkien lore?
>>136415321
Wrong.
The tank is equipped with TC remote NSVT, all T-72s, even prototypes, did not feature this.
Also early T-72 did not have T-64A turret, albeit it had one very similar. The "new" turret was required due the autoloader of the T-64A not being adopted.
Only the T-80 original production model had a copy of the T-64A turret but also lacked remote NSVT.
>>136418775
WinSPMBT
>>136419920
>WinSPMBT
It ain't free.
>>136420184
it is
>>136414384
I love all sorts of AAR, so count me in.
>>136420184
Someone should finally add this to the oppost, I repeat myself like 4th time. Rename CamoDLL.dll to DXAniTimer.dll and you're good.
>>136420471
Where? Legally? Have you a download link?
Regarding the AARs. My last mission of mini-campaign isn't over yet, here's the situation so far.
In the south enemy tried rushing his armor through my road block, didn't work as well, he even started bypassing it in the south right through the river. Remnants of my armored forces are gathered around the southern mission objective, but they'll be all dead as this thread once enemy Leo 2A4 turns its frontal armor in their direction.
In the middle I've transfered BMP-2 platoon and recon elements with ATGMs from the northern side (which is ignored by the enemy) and preparing to fight yet another Leo 2A4 platoon. Once again, I can rely on side and rear hits only, so this is pretty much a game of chance.
>>136421145
On the fucking official site, just open up Google (for retard like you: type google.com in the big white bar in your browser and press Enter), search for WinSPMBT and the first or one of the first links would be it.
Next turn started fairly good - our old friend Leutnant Rossbach has yet another enemy kill, this time it's Leo 2A4.
In the middle another Leo 2A4 is caught into crossfire and got it's side projection penetrated twice by T-72, resulting in a kill.
And finally in th middle RPG-7V team gets it's shit together and manages to hit another Leo 2A4 from 200 meters right in its shiny metal butt.
>>136421993
Someone even plays campaigns, I tried once, playing with Russian airborne company against Japan and got my shit handled to me by Type 90s and reservists spam.
Also, I'd love to code some shit like FPRS or WinSPMBT but in real time, like Armored Brigade, but on a higher level of command and with more strict OOBs
Enemy tanks in the northern woods are suffring heavy losses to RPGs fire. One was even unlucky enough to be destroyed by the Factoria.
>>136422772
thats probably the easiest campaign. you can move from sector to sector raping everthing with helos
>>136423927
forgot pic
Meawhile in the south roadblock finally gets overrun once the jaegers catch up with the tanks.
And enemy effectively counters my artillery with his FASCAM. Luckly only two tubes are lost, others are about to reposition.
>>136422772
Basically something like FCRS, but in real time?
As for campaign - I've only managed to win one battle out of four so far, others were a draw. And all of them resulted in mutual destruction, so its pretty tough out here too.
Enemy is approaching mission objective in what looks like a combined arms force. For some weird reason Gepards are leading the way. Well, happend to me in Eugene's Wargame too.
Meanwhile I pop a couple of 2A4 in the north and lose a T-55, which I decided to reposition a bit closer, to enemy Milan
>>136423927
Read my message one more time, I wad talking about WinSPMBT, retard
>>136424341
>Basically something like FCRS, but in real time?
Yeah, I also like the aspects of indirect control
>>136425151
yes, yes you were. my bad
>>136425705
I still love you, anon <3
Leutnant Rossbach scores his tenth kill, it was Leopard 2A4. Me and enemy are in opposite situations now - I've lost almost all my infantry, bar mech company HQ and some ATGM and AAA. And he's out of armor, while his infantry finally starts creeping at my mission objectives. Unfortunately for me he has some Milan II which could be a disaster for me.
Woo-hoo, it's finally over and looks like are in for a major victory! Also it's 5th time both me and enemy have very little to fight with in the end. This time my artillery was a game-saver - not sure I'd stand my ground if those waves of enemy Jagers and PzGrens made it to my positions in time and in full numbers
Nope, just a marginal victory. And the campaign is finally over, all in all it was quite interesting to play. Fun fact - the only modern enemy MBT I've knocked out with frontal penetration was a M1A1 in one of the first mission. If this resembles real life, then Cold war gone hot would be a world of hurt for NVA, CSLA and Wojsko Polskie. In SPMBT only Soviets possess tank ammunition that can somewhat reliably penetrate contemporary enemy MBTs. And even then tons of ATGMs they have on pretty much anything are good only against older MBTs or IFVs
>>136425331Warmachinist spotted
>>136430416
I'd still like a system where tanks aren't allowed to shit out 4 rounds before receiving return fire.
The 2.0.11 version of FCRS plans to have this bullshit too, which will make it marginally worse.
wtf
Good WW1 game when
>inb4 Call of Verdun
>>136430416
>Warmachinist spotted
Sorry, never played that. It always bothered me that you have to manually control every single unit, unlike RL commanders do.
post cold war stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77GtrSa6qNc
>>136432067I was talking about your picture, saw them on /wm/ lately
Is Rule the Waves /wgg/?
I am addicted.
>>136434995
yes post some pics
>>136435863
On my cell, I will when I'm off work.
Just started an Austria-Hungary game, War with Italy by 1902.
>>136428956
how big are your maps?
and do you have any attacking tips for a beginner?
>>136436579
great fuck the shitalians
>>136437278
>do you have any attacking tips for a beginner?
Before every attack, use lots of artillery and spam the 'Z' key
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>>136419373
The NSVT is just rotated forwards that's all (duh), it's not remote controlled. If you look well enough you'd see flaps on hull sides, no T-64 model ever had them. As for the turret, I forgot to write "T-64A styled turret", yea it wasn't straight from T-64A.
Tank in the picture is just early T-72. Pic related.
>>136422530
Based rossbach
is there a way to set a higher resolution to winspmbt without the cd version? like an .ini tweak or something
Any one have one of these for 9. Panzerdivision?
>>136441431
>flaps on hull sides, no T-64 model
pic related, u wot m8.
and
the T-72 NSVT's magazine is different from the T-64, (50 rnds vs. 150 rnds)
the T-72 NSVT has a collimator sight just above it, which the T-64 lacks
the T-64 has the TC IR always aligned immediately left of the NSVT
any AS2 players in the house? I wanna do some Co-op
>>136422392
I get it, it was only the CD version that is not free. Thank you anon.
>>136444804
I should've included my own pastebin with ORBATs in the op, there should be DDR ones:
http://pastebin.com/0LCQp3Tf
>>136420184
>Only made one mage and is getting rekt by skelemans
lel
>>136449423
I'm a noob.
>>136444230
Just get the CD version it takes literally 10 second
>>136450873
nigga im broke as fuck.
>>136444230
see here >>136420901
>>136448095
CD version is free.
Attention to the fucking retard who makes the next general, add the steel pantherz CD exploit to the OP so we don't have to keep typing it out
>>136446923
please respond
>>136451660
They send CD for free? Are you talking about the iso only?
>>136451986
What the fuck
>>136451986
Fucking read the thread. How one person can be this retarded?
>>136451714
>Play AS2 coop with friend
>all the nations have the same maps with the same objectives
I've never been so dissapointed. I'd play with you for shit and giggles anyway but I have 35% packet loss since 3 days ago and Im about to get an aneurysm because of it.
>>136452245
The fuck is packet loss?
>>136448568
Thanks bro.
>>136451986
READ THIS
>>136451406
>>136452218
I don't. I find the free version on http://www.shrapnelgames.com/Camo_Workshop/MBT/MBT_page.html
But I don't find a link to dl the iso. Is there a link somewhere to a free iso?
>>136452456
That's cracking, that ain't free. I was precise I use the word free, like in Linux is free.
>>136452869
So I'm not retarded.
>>136452956
It is literally renaming a file
>>136452956
>So I'm not retarded.
Yes you are. There is nothing illegal in renaming files.
>>136452956
>renaming a file is cracking
how low have we fallen
>>136453040
>>136453096
>>136453409
It's cracking. I'm not scared by doing illegal things like that, but I don't need to crack Wesnoth.
>>136453485
>It's cracking.
>A is B because I said so.
Okay, m8, enjoy your 800x600 version
>>136453949
It's cracking.
>It's just a buffer overflow exploit, so it ain't cracking.
You're ridiculous.
>It's just a security trap, it ain't cracking.
>I just found the code of nuclear weapon I can use them, it ain't cracking.
>...
It's not because you can do something that it isn't illegal.
>800x600
I don't say I won't do it. But small resolutions don't annoy me.
>>136454567
Thanks for bumping with your shitposting anyway
>>136455086
You're welcome.
>>136450273
So much so that you didn't know that you NEED mages (and Elvish Fighters, to soak hits, because I'm guessing you can't make Woses) to fuck up undead, more than anything else?
Shaman's are useful for heals but they're not on the same level as mages. Get some white mages and you'll just roll the fuckers.
>>136455497
Thank for the information. I will try to have white mage for the undead. But don't worry I always read and study units description to understand which kind of units I have to use. I have a lot to learn.
>beat AmberT twice in ranked
>does nothing but spam 10pt infantry in gavins, SK60bs, puffs and leo 1s
>about to win a third time
>helo rushes me
>fight him again
>more helo rushes
People actually look up to this turbosperg?
Just finished a 4 hour game of Men of War 2 with the terminator mod.
I'm sweaty and tired now.
Disbanding the soviet union was the bravest thing a man did in the 20th century.
>>136457080
>terminator mod
going to go look this up
perheväkivalta
>>136457183
It's a fucking amazing mod, gives you alot of tools to customize battles.
It adds like 100 new vehicles and shit.
Also adds China, Hungary, France.
>>136457357
Is it as good as Robz?
>>136457429
In term of new vehicles? Yes alot.
But it's not really a multiplayer mod, mostly for fun extended SP games.
>>136457538
What's yer steam so I have a co-op buddy
>>136457135
Care to elaborate?
>>136457649
look up Ser Colgate or infoman567
>>136457692
It was a major step forward world peace and the betterment of the lives of the people of the earth.
>>136458175
>betterment
>millions of people died due to famine after fall of USSR, not mentioning countless local wars.
Your opinion -> trash
>>136458312
That wasn't because of the Soviet Union's collapse itself, it was because Yeltsin was a fuckhead dictator with no idea how to run a country.
>>136458312
Every reform has negative short term effects.
>>136458631
Some of the wars happened before Yeltsin (for example Armenia/Azerbaijan), and you'd expect anarchy after the fall of governmental power.
I'd prefer something like 80s-90s Chinese reform with liberalization of the state without going full anarchy.
>>136458692
>just """"short term"""""" side effects )))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Pic related.
>>136457080
>tfw it got an update a couple of days ago
haha time to install Men of War again
Le changing files is le illegal crack
Page 10 shitpost
rate my deck guise
>>136464976
>supply helo
>Mi-8
>no autocannon IFVs
>No T-64BM or T-72BU
>no BRDM-3
>taking Sturm/Norov when you can use the points for better vehicles
>MiG-31 over MiG-25PD
>No SEAD
>Navy
>>136466078
>MiG-31 over MiG-25PD
>using either of those
>not being a shitter
Pick one.
>>136466294
>Not wanting cheap and effective fighters that come more than 1 per card
>being this bad
>>136466398
>not wanting to be a cheesing scumbag = bad
topcuc. Meme unit crutch user git gud.
>>136466078
>navy
>complaining about a slot thats fucking free
>>136464976
>supply helo
>not taking the largest truck available
>btr robot
>strelki not in bmp-1d
>heliborne infantry
>strela-10
>tube arty
>no mortar
>no buratino or smerch
>t-80b
>t-80bv
>no superheavy
>no emergency heavy
>no t-64bm
>brdm-2
>no brdm-3
>no ground-borne recon inf
>atgm vehicles
>norov
>mi-24p
>mig-27k instead of vetted mig-27
>mig-31
>no vetted mig-25pd
>no sead
>naval
>>136466686
>If it's good, it's meme
>>136468093
>navy
Shitter central in here today
>>136466686
>being a satanist hato apologist
>>136464976
Better?
>>136471498
>Still no T-64BM
>No T-72BU
>No recce inf
>Sturm when you already have Konkurs-M
>Afghanskiis when you already have plenty of Biryusas
>BTR-152E
>MiG-29 instead of a good ASF
>>136472986
>T-64BM
is it really worth it? The T-72B1 has been doing a good job so far (I think)
>T-72BU
why really? Aren't the T-80U's enough?
>good ASF
such as?
>>136471498
>two supply trucks
>4/5 inf tab
>bmp-1p
>uragan (though not useless, it's not as good as a buratino)
>upvetted mortars
>no superheavy
>gutted recon tab
>overabundant vehicle tab
>wishing for non-veteran mig-27 to hit their target
>>136473887
T-64bm is probably the best cost effective medium tank as of now, better than the k1 and mexas.
T-72bu is a requirement for superheavy spearhead tactics as it will only be stopped by a m1a2, atgm plane, lucky or plentiful tow-2, longbow and infantry nests such as woods and cities.
Best (and only) option for a fighter is a pair of veteran mig-25pd.
But in any case, you should play men of war instead as it is a massively better game.
>>136473887
T-64BM is the current meta medium tank for USSR
T-72BU is one of the higher end tanks that can compete with higher tier Abrams
>Good ASF
I already suggested the MiG-25PD.
>>136464976
>>136471498
Ignore the memeposters. Having a naval tab is fine, you'll regret it if you'll accidentally join a land/naval game.
Just a tip, the minimum should be:
>2 Jianghu
>3 Hujian
Jianghu is mainly for coastal bombardment and sector capturing, Hujian is the real deal and you will never want to lose them. If possible, bring your FOB as close as possible to the coast, otherwise just hope one of your teammates has a supply ship.
The other 3 slots can be whatever you want. I personally suggest naval infantry, so as USSR, it would be:
>BTR-** Morskaya Pekhota
>BTR-** Spetznaz GRU
>Afghanskii
Afghanskii for immediate air support on landing and as a cheap (20+5) transport for land CV. Just dump one next to a spare CV and ship it around.
Oh, this?
Just a BMP.
So as someone who hasn't touched a war game besides his friends old copy of men of war. What is a good game to get into?
>>136486632
Men of war isn't a wargame
>>136486632
Probably one of the Wargame series. Heard that EE is good for SP while RD is for MP. Graviteam Tactics is nice if you can handle a ride with no tutorials and a steep learning curve. Then there's hex stuff but might not what you're looking for.
>>136489110
Is there multiplayer in Graviteam Tactics?
>>136489310
Coming soon, no ETA.
>>136489805
Shame, seems like a cool game to play in co-op with a bro.
>>136487434
Doesn't make it a wargame
Bump
Fug, /wgg/, this is a lot of ships. Just about the entire Austrian and Italian navies showed up to fight.
>>136493615
Is there anything like rule the waves but WW2
>>136496621
If you go super old school there's the Great Naval Battles series, but it doesn't have any of the design or diplomatic layers.
Page almost 10 bump
Also what time period does this naval shit go up to
I elected to stay home from a tinder date with an Korean amateur model to play Mius Front. I have my priorities set
>>136499694
Forgot pic. Going to get fucked tonight anyway because I have only 1 AT gun in this battle
>>136500440
looks like the perfect match to use the Retreat option
>>136472986
>>136476904
>>136477470
>>136481142
took me a while but here
I really want to get into milsim type games. Which ones would you guys suggest?
FPS & RTS varieties please. I'm thinking Arma 3 but all I see people streaming on Twitch is shit-tier "altis life"/Battle Royale shit & not actual milsim servers
>>136453485
And thats Why wesnoth playerbase is ded
>>136509398
For strategy Wargame titles there's not that much under the 'real time' category other than Graviteam Tactics: Mius front and maybe Combat Mission which is really better played its turn-based mode. There's a lot of hex titles like Flashpoint Campaigns but they are all turn-based.
For Arma there are no public 'milsim servers', just a lot of groups that have events every week or two. I'd recommend Broma and Murshun which are 4chan affiliated groups which have no barriers to entry and if after trying them they aren't realistic enough you can move on to other groups.
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>>136509398
I'd tell you to check Squad, but its on early access and has optimization issues with AMD setups.
I used to hate artyspammers, but now I buy 14 Akatsiyas every game.
>>136515926
I watched it on Twitch & everyone talking was just a bunch of whiney man-children crying like a bunch of fucking faggots because they suck & kept dying so I'm going to avoid Squad.
Mfw realizing that making a wargame from scratch would be much more complicated than I thought. Maybe I should use one of those game engines they talk about.
>>136516432
There's a reason why people avoid it, you know.
Im thinking of getting one of the combat mission games.
Are they locked to 30fps?
And which is the best WW2 one?
>>136516034
4 m110 as USA as grown on me.
>>136518301
My main problem is that I do have some experience in programming (some scientific calculations for thesis), but not game dev. I can come up with how to make the basics of the game to work, stuff like handling hits, movement types etc, but no idea on how to tie them up together and make an interface apart from outputing a string "iterations complete: %c".
Convoy to page 1
>>136518984
Making a game from scratch is a huge time sink. Honestly its better to check what engines are available and see if there's one that fits your needs; the result might be less bloated or less prone to bugs. If you're trying to make something super niche you might be out of luck though.
>>136520669
>If you're trying to make something super niche you might be out of luck though.
I guess that's my case. Though I find FPRS as good as a wargame can get despite post-2.0.10 updates trying the hardest to ruin it.
Maybe I will make an Afghanistan campaign for it after I finish my 1968 one.
Na pervuyu stranitsu!
>>136518984
What are you using, c++ with Qt?
>>136523838
Tried C++ with SFML
>>136524062
It seems like the right library for the job. There should be a couple of drawing methods to create an interface and interact with it.
Can some of you fags que for the Burgers for the tank duel event
>>136520909
>espite post-2.0.10 updates trying the hardest to ruin it.
What the problem with them?
>>136528817
2.0.11.1 has the issue where Pact units can no longer hit anything and M109s became really overpowered.
2.0.11.2 has that fixed for red helis only and M109s became even more powerful now leaving no chance for Soviet player.
>page 9
Meanwhile I reworked the roads for the second scenario from anon's input.
>>136427446
>>136428956
>>136430416
But the most important thing is that Rossbach survivied
Are the Graviteam downloads in the OP just DLCs for the base game or do they work as stand alones?
bump
>>136534467
I should play RO2 again.
>page 7
>>136532781
The dlc link is for Graviteam Tactics Operation Star. The Mius Front link is a stand-alone game.
>>136536549
Couldn't someone upload Operation Star basegame too?
>>136510909
>ever recommending murshun or broma
literally fucking kill yourself you stupid nigger
they are DOG SHIT groups
>page 9
Meanwhile I've finished the second map, r8 please.
>>136538420
also, there's a link broken, the first one.
>>136543486
And a quick fix
>>136541493
Form a coherent counter argument as to why first.
>>136547712
Lmao
>>136548445
Thank you for your input.
>>136509398
FPS, there's Project Reality, which is a free standalone mod of BF2. It's got a shitload of content from factions, weapons, maps and so on. There's even Nam maps, and Falklands is coming soon. There's also a WWII beta.
Squad is the same idea, except it's early access, and you need to buy it. There's no content for it at the moment, so skip it for now.
Insurgency is okay, it's more of a tac-shooter. Lots of mods for it.
RTS there's Graviteam Tactics and Combat Mission, both have a fairly steep learning curve. If you want something simpler, Wargame and Men of War exist. There's plenty of hexshit to find. Older games like WinSPMBT an Close Combat are also really good. If you're looking for RTS, check the welcome games in the OP.
>>136547712
ok you want an argument?
they aren't milsim
they have terribly optimized missions
missions are long and uninteresting
modpack is 30gb
shacktac hud (lmao)
panimala is an actual asshole
>>136538420
>uploading 4.6GB with a 20KB/s connection
I would do it but honestly it would take forever and probably get a "sorry, your upload speed caused an error because its too slow, also fuck you". There's also the russian forum link if someone really wants Operation Star.
>>136437278
Maps are standart 100x80 size.
That >>136437765 guys is quite right. Use 'z'-key indirect fire, it doesn't require full LOS, for instance it can fire through smoke and trees. MG-teams are great at it.
Other than that - it really depends on the situation. In any way try to suppress enemy artillery first (if they're on-map, you can spot them by smoked zones in the enemy rear, if they're offmap it's more complicated - you need to have an offmap arty yourself, if it's not ordered to fire it will do counter-battery at the enemy firing arty. I don't remember full details, check the manual.
If you have TIs you can abuse smoke and be able to fire at enemy units that hasn't got it. Smoke generally can be a game changer here - you could smoke out a part of enemy defence and concentrate your fire on the rest so you could pick out defenders one by one. Remember that tank platoon leaders usually have some smoke shell. And another thing - usually you'd like to manually turn off automatic AI smoke screening when your armor comes under fire, it usually rather annoying during attack since you could lose LOS at unwanted time. It's done inside unit's stats view, select your unit and press spacebar.
Also, don't forget to set Target Reference Points - you'll be able to fire arty much quicker if have these. It's done at artillery page during the setup phase.
And a more 'gamey' advice.
When it comes to random attack/assault missions AI's deployment of troops is ofter rather silly - it generally fails to cover whole map height, so you can find a safe passage to enemy rear with your scouts and exploit it. When you cap some mission objectives AI generally tries to recapture them, so it's entirely possible that you'll be the one defending after that. And it becomes much easier then.
Some points that I could come up with quickly.
>>136538420
Here you go
https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/10729484/Achtung.Panzer.Shilovo.1942.READNFO-CODEX
>>136555583
are you going to post another radom campaign?
FLX wrote:
Here is a price proposition, if we can agree on it I'll review the availability based on that.
Basically, nerf to Leo1A5 and K1 and compressed price between 100$/150$
M1A2 --> 180 (~)
T-72BU --> 175 (-5)
T-90S --> 170 (-5)
Chally2 --> 170(~)
Leo2A5 --> 170 (~)
Kyu-Maru --> 165 (-5)
T-80UM --> 160 (-10)
Moderna --> 155 (-10)
STRV 121 --> 155 (-5)
Leclerc --> 160 (~)
PT-91 --> 155 (-5)
M1A1HC --> 155 (-5)
T-80U --> 145 (-10)
K1A1 --> 140 (-10)
ChallyMk3 --> 140 (-10)
T-72obr89 --> 135 (-15)
ZTZ-85-III --> 135 (-10)
M1A1HA --> 135 (-10)
T-72S --> 125 (-10)
Leo2A4 --> 125 (-10)
T-72S1 --> 120 (-10)
T-64BV --> 120 (-10)
Wilk M2 --> 120 (-5) (60% accuracy)
ChallyMk2 --> 115 (-10)
T-72obr87 --> 110 (-15)
M1A1 --> 115 (-5)
T-80BV --> 110 (-10)
T-64BV1 --> 110 (-10)
ChallyMk1 --> 105 (-10)
T-80A --> 110 (~)
T-64BM --> 100 (+10)
Leo2A1 --> 100 (-5)
T-72B --> 90 (-5)
K1 --> 90 (+5)
(...)
Chief Mk11 --> 80 (-5)
(...)
Leo1A5 --> 65 (+5)
(...)
Super M60 --> 60 (-5)
These actually look decent for once.
Fucking Landships
>>136557057
That actually looks rather decent.
>>136555583
Thanks for the tips although I figured most of it by now
Gonna try smoking the enemy positions next time
>>136556052
Not him but currently I'm playing a German campaign in Steel Panthers WW2 after I'm done with the current battle I'm gonna post some pics
Why are hit chances so low in SP ww2?
At 2+ hexes it always below 10%
At 1 or less it still only reaches 45%.
Not to mention the bullshit with reaction fire t34 taking out multiple panthers, but that is another issue
>>136561491
which weapons?
if your units stand still the hit chances are pretty good
>>136557097
is that a mod? looks rather unpolished to be an asset from the game
>>136557097
Arty food in WoT.
>>136561697
Regular German infantry squads
>>136563634
The customizable skirmish mod from the workshop
its pretty good but it seems he removed the tank only battles wich is kinda sa
>>136568438
which map isthat
>>136568438
which difficulty are you playing on
>>136569337
dont know
>>136569494
normal but I´m thinking about switching to hard
Testing the updated first scenario, looks like there is a need in using BMPs instead of BTRs
>>136568134
it fepends on los, moral, experience and on unit stance
moving troops have less accuracy than stationary squads
The accuracy also increases with consecutive shots on the same unit
>tfw you're being overrun by M60s and cavalry scouts and F-4s rek your HQs and AAs
>>136572640
it seems like you're about to get raped
ded
>>136574913
Nah, my ambush in outskirts of Plauen has rekt already two platoons of M60s who thought they'de be able to rush inside the town
>>136556052
I'm playing a premade US campaign now, maybe I'll will write AAR as I go.
>>136557057
rip t-64bm, you never existed but you will be remembered
The attack is mostly repelled, now most of efforts US puts in is to the south of the highway, but I have nothing to fight with on the north.
Russian armored vehicle
dead
>page 10
>>136578747
>t-72 chassis
It was a msta-s modification.
The... the msta-s doesn't have a t-72 chassis does it?
Why so ded?
>>136584810
Msta-S has T-72 chassis but T-80 like suspension.
my first mistake was playing 10v10
my second mistake was not quiting the second I saw a red tide of helis
is there anything more annoying than shit spammers?
How are victories calculated in Steel Panthers?
I just wone with 5k points and the enemy had 300
I lost about 160 men and 3 tanks and he lost ten times that, but somehow its only a marignal victory
plons
>>136555720
Thanks kind anon.
So i've been jerking around a little bit with GTOS just to see the differences from GTMF and i think the interface and graphic is actually better on the older title for some reason.
It just seems much more polished, the only things i don't like so far is that the unit status bar is cut in two at the bottom of the screen (instead of the vertical left side bar) and that the squads icons have no indicator to show if the units has viable AT weaponry or smoke.
And the enviroment appears to be more credible, Mius has that strange gloomy atmosphere with summer-like grass paired and cloudy weather that just don't cut it.
Also, is there a way to remove the horrible blue boxes surrounding units when selected in squad name mode?
this post contains no bmp
BTR > BMP
BTR
>>136411448
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctnK7wdJmAo
Post videos itt that describe your style of play in wargame.
>>136613842
>Airspammer
Effective but extremely annoying to play against.
>>136614657
Not even just airspammer, I use almost exclusively napalm. I think it's offset by the fact I use only airborne infantry.
кoт
>>136456195
Just Russians and himself.
>>136456195
>calling it a gavin
Please stop with this shitty meme.
10
>>136626712
we need to have an argument about something.
You are planefu a shit.
You are tankfu a shit.
You are raifu a shit.
and most of all, you are nationality are subhuman scum that will be crushed by their most hated enemies and geopolitical rivals with the greatest of ease.
>Gavin
end thyself
The term 'Gavin' is some bullshit fabricated by popular culture. No body in an actual armed force calls it that.
>>136627298
Nice bait. Go back to your own general planefag. Stop spreading your fony balagona here
>>136627035
Fuck you mig 29 is great
Fuck you abrams is undeadable
Fuck you my raifu is better than you raifu
My nationality is the best it is you country that will be easily crushed by its enemies
>>136588019
People who don't know how to counter and whine about getting stomped by a fairly straightforward strategy?
>>136628825
Go to bed Mike
Only France could make an uglier OICW.
You know the drill
Bumb
>>136637657
>mfw my country operates the most BMP-3s after Russia
>>136578747
>>136584810
>>136587735
MSTA-S is based on T-80 chassis, with T-72 engine.
>>136640776
Your MoD picked a good IFV to spend dem oil bux on. If you have to import for IFVs, the BMP-3 is the way to go.
>>136642170
T-72 hull geometry, T-72 engine and transmission, T-80 suspension.
>>136642720
>T-72 hull geometry
look at the driver viewports
>>136644942
And? Engine compartment and the rest is totally from T-72's
![251060_screenshots_20160327151200_1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/770AM68.jpg "251060 screenshots 20160327151200 1[1]")
T-70 tooth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U9JjGseXIs
>page 8
>>136652684Cкoлькo paз я тeбe гoвopил нe тaщить cюдa гoвнo c хapкaчa, a ты oпять блядь пpинёc лoкaльный кoнтeнт кoтopый пoймy тoлькo я? Tы eбaнyтый?
>>136653575
Mmm... Vodka.
>>136653575
[spoler]Hy я бы нe cкaзaл, чтo пpям лoкaльный, вce и тaк пoнятнo. Ho вce paвнo тaщить нe cтoит, этo дa.[/spoiler]
>>136654434
>
%%:^)%%
>>136652684
Only a Russian could be behind this awfully beautiful
Meow
>>136652684
>tfw a mod you made for gmod shows up in the video
breddy gud feel desu
>>136652684
Modern masterpiece, Andrei Tarkovsky is alive in Russia and making Gmod videos
>>136589986
Hard to tell, had pretty surprising results myself. Probably it's buried deep in the manual.
>>136456195
He has pretty unconventional style of play that's fun to watch. Pretty much thats it.
>>136659625
Kek'd at your post, have a maymay
Sky's the limit.
This time I play CENTAG 78 revisited campaing as US Army vs horde of godless comunist subhumans.
First mission was a turkey shot, nothing to write home about.
Second one was a turkey shot on an epic scale, having huge amounts of ATGM assets and ability to replenish their supplies plus AI inability to smoke my shit properly and bring AA to the party warranted an easy win.
Points taken - Strela-2 can't hit shit, 5% CTH after flares, 1% CTH after evasive action. Stinger on the other hand hits almost always, but sometimes it isn't enough to bring enemy gunship down or at least force it to retreat. Actually plain old ATGMs (TOWs in my case) were much better at downing enemy helos.
I had to replay it twice since I've fucked up force composition in the third mission. Went really smooth, though I have sinned and savescummed a couple of times. Losing both your Gunships to artillery barrage is a thing you're used to in Wargame, but here I was infuriated. Ended up as major victory eventually.
3rd mission is an attack agains enemy VDV troops. Poor sobs knew what they were up to, feel little regret for them.
As a support for this mission I recieve an airmobile squad. Also I've ordered a mech inf company and a rifle company in trucks.
Scenario is tiny, both in length (9 turns) and map size. Plan's simple - steamroll down to the last objective clearing any resistance in progress. I have to be quick this time, no time to prepare a complex assault schema.
>>136629604
I didn't get stomped.
I wrecked his face with my spaag spam.
It's just boring.
Succesfull landed my airbornes in the middle point. Thats the good news. The bad news - both bridges leading to further points are mined, so I have to either clear them (unknown amount of time) or try and cross the rivers (high chance of stucking down). Also, enemy has some armor, already destroyed one BMD-1.
Not sure if the mines are even being cleared, will have to cross the river on foot since trucks with definitely get stuck. Not sure if my boys will even get to the mission objectives in time - I have only 5 turns left. Damn, it's the second game in which I use inf in trucks and they disappoint me once again. Probably not a best thing to get.
Enemy tries to recap middle point which I was about to leave. I guess I'll have to leave at least a couple of squads behind to hold them until my foot inf catches up. 4 turns left, most of the points are already mine. Also enemy Para Snipers are armed with PKP Pecheneg for some weird obsole OOB reason.
>>136652684
Wonderful, truly in the vain of the best Gmod videos of yesteryear.
>>136671914
I love those helis in WinSPMBT
Well, that was too easy - game ended at 7th turn out of 9 when last enemy unit was destroyed. Bulk of my forces didn't even fire a shot.
Next mission - joint advance with German forces.
>>136672984
Yup, they can be deadly when enemy has no proper AA.
Whoa, new mission map is huge. And at the same time it's rather short. Good thing I have helo recon + got me some more tanks and ATGMs. Plus the Germans provided a tank platoon with two mech inf platoons.
page 10
>>136678703
rip brave soldier
>p.10
Dumb sovok tried to flank me but instead drove into a height 10 hill while my glorious acier francais ran him through with 40mm SA38
>>136678703
RIP Russian Operator
F
But thank you so much for sharing this Double Platinum-Eagle ÜberRare with me. You will not be forgotten Ruskie.
>>136687180
>instead drove into a height 10 hill
everything looks flat to me
>>136687379
I'm glad you liked it, my friend!
>>136584810
>mfw when your tanks are so perfect you start building all your gear from them
two t-72 tanks can gattai into an artillery piece, a shilka or a spetsnaz squad
>Warsaw Pact was a defensive alliance
>>136695195
>NATO is a defensive alliance
ded
>>136695331
Tell that to Serbia
>>136695486
Green arrow means >implying.
>>136695195
tell that to Czechoslovakia
Good night, anons
>>136697054
Good night anon.
>>136698853
This picture gets me every time with the T-84 and Eurofighter.
>>136699256
ON MY POSITION!
>>136699256
ON MY POSITION!
I SAY AGAIN, ON MY POSITION! HOW COPY, OVER!
not like this.
>>136704407
kekekekekke
IFV
just let this shitty slavaboo general die
Rate my EuroCorps 10v10/General deck
>>136716807
28 jagers too few.
don't you die on me
>>136721776
today's a really ded day
goodnight, sweet prince
>>136716807
You're a patch too early. F-4F KWS will be godlike after the air overhaul hits, for now stick with elite RDIs. Even in an environment where everyone is spamming F&F, an elite RDI will have way more chance to hit with the same survivability and much deadlier if you do get close. If you must stick to F&F, at least make your fighter elite, even if it's only 140pts.
Too much AA. Dump the supply helo and an AA piece and get one more fighter or AT plane or recon thingy or even a leclerc.
Dump either keiler or leo 2 (I'd dump leo 2), dump leo2a4, get leclerc and use the free points on maxing plane or recon tabs.
Otherwise pretty good. I'd rework the infantry tab to fit in more fighting inf, by ditching the marder 2, ditching either manpad or ATGM, and maybe even downgrading jaeger to pzgren, but if you do fine with your current numbers then that's cool I guess. Downvet the jaeger.
Anyone played Command Ops: Battles from the Bulge? Thoughts about it?
What is this new "on my position" meme
>>136733673
A Russian SF soldier was surrounded by ISIS, and so he called an airstrike on himself.
It's bullshit but the slavaboos all bought it in no time.
Slavs go out
Planefags leaving was a mistake
I blame tied.
On a wargame related note that can make discussion: why is landjut the least played coalition in the game? I noticed when a friend couldnt even recognize the flag for it. Is there a downside to them other than helicopters and possibly planes?
>>136740931
>muh planes meme
uhh no. their threads are shit and rely on life support from a couple of autists just as much as these ones do
>>136743387
>thread splits
>bumping skyrockets
>both threads live close to the page 10
Gee boss, I dunno.
>thread status: ded
>uralmod status: unded
>eugen status: muh AoA
>balanse status: hon
>wargame status: shit
>>136733816
>It's bullshit
Why? Seems pretty legit, knowing traditional ISIS/mudslim love of torturing people the guy would have prefered that kind of death.
>>136745026
It's bullshit as there is no proofs
>>136746816
Hi, rooster
Shit APC coming through
>p.9
>>136749238
slavs get out
>>136749693
If we go there will be no one to bump this thread.
>>136750352
Vladimir seems like a bro.
10, back to sleep
>p.10
Kek, lets change general name into /BMP/, as we have more bump posts than wgg
>>136757528
fucking anime get out RRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
4th mission of CENTAG 78 campaign.
This time I'm at relative disadvantage - the only thing that can reliably destroy enemy T-64B are my TOW and Milan ATGMs. And they won't be as effective as before since visibility is relatively low - 28 hexes. On the other hand enemy has probably forgot to take AA again, at least in the first line of attack, so my Cobras will be really effective and hopefully will be able to get rid of enemy MBTs early..
>>136758670
based hexposter :*
>>136757481
have you ever been to /acg/?
>>136758670
I love you anon, in a non lewd way
>>136740931
I think it's because both nations are in better coalitions. France is a better complement to West Germany and Scandinavia is a better coalition for Denmark.
>>136745026
"On my position" as if there's an active "minimap" where a pilot has the least clue on where his comrade is.Sounds like a fun way to annoy people in PR though, sounds like a blast to do it in Black Gold or Silent Eagle
>>136759449
>what are coordinates/grids on military maps and radios
>implying there is no coms between the target designator and bombers which he guides
I guess you never been to military and all your knowledge of RL military is based on Battlefield.
>>136758779
>>136758859
Feels good.
>>136758670
So basically I'm playing the defence against superior enemy armor yet again. Enemy T-64s are staying in the back for some reason, my Cobra's are out of ATGMs and retreating to FARP for refill.
I have a Minelets ammo this time, which is awesome, but I fear that I won't be able to use them properly - they have a 2 turns delay, hard to where the enemy tanks will be by then. I only hope that they'll wait in the rear a little longer.
Now this is some bad news - Enemy has an battle group attempting some sort of a flanking maneuver. Looks like I'll have to fall back in the south, unless Cobra's will be able to handle it.
Generally my plan for this mission wasn't really good - most of ground-based ATGMs are in the open ground in the north, where, as it seems, only a couple of BMP-2 platoons are against them. BMP's are not the problem for TOWs, enemy infantry is.
>>136740931
germany has literally the same units as denmark and thus provides almost nothing to the coalition compared to fin/norway
>>136561491
I can barely hit targets in War Thunder, what do you think it's like for a poor sod in a hot, noisy, unventilated shaking vehicle with piss poor optics and constant explosions?
>p.8
>>136760051
Are you kill?
>>136699256
ON MY POSITION
>>136716807
>supply helo
>not taking the biggest supply truck
>both atgm and manpads
>no fascistjager
>no leclerc
>no recon tiger
>bothering with german planes
>>136765971
I like 20pt trucks a lot actually, 30pters resupply a bit too slowly for my taste.
>>136766293
Fair enough.
>>136764656
Nyet, I am no ded yet.
The turn is 10, half of the battle is over. Main complication this time is unpredictability of enemy actions - they didn't go the way I expected, so I have to fill the gaps on the go.
Main point of interest is this little village near the center of the map, Fearing the T-64s I had to reinforce it with armor and infantry alike. Looks like it wasn't that necessary, initial group is doing just fine, tanks are destroyed or stopped and enemy infantry that's late to party is getting pounded by lots of arty.
My minelets weren't that effective - 2 tanks got caught, others decided to go other way. Once I get rid of T-64Bs with mah choppaz this approach lane is considered fairly safe - I'll fill the gap (next pic) by my Leos 1A3 by the time T-62s get there, and they + Marders with Milan are more than enough to deal with them.
And this is the approach I was talking in the previous post. Presumably tanks are going there. Check those minelets - not a single one managed to cover the road, yet some of them are right on top of my inf.
And north seems safe too - I had lots of M150 with TOW there, they were an overkill for a platoon of BMP-2. Had to transfer my core tank platoon there to assist recapping the points by cavalry scouts.
The only thing thats getting on my nerves right now is these two BMP-2 trying to cap points deep in the forest. Ordered a mortar barrage to slow down the inf, not sure if it'll do any good.
>>136758807
I was in wkg, eagg, rtsg, cohg and more
;_;
>>136770831
shitty taste
Based Ivan Topor fears no capitalist armored coffins. Grabs AK, fires AK, grabs RPK, fires RPK, grabs RPG-16, fires point blank... and misses! No rest for Ivan, enemy bullets don't bother him. So he starts all over again and this time RPG-16 is right on target. Glory to Ivan!
In other news - first core unit is lost, M60A1 RISE didn't notice sneaky scout. I'm launching a couterattack in the middle and in the north attempting to recap some Soviet points.
>>136729583
whats all this about an air overhaul?
>>136772391
FLX posted a list on some steam group, basically every asf will gain some veterancy and the current meta planes will be nerfed.
>>136772391
-=USA=-
F-4J Fantom II / 75$ / 5.0.4.0.3
F-15A / 130$ / 3.0.0.2.0
F-16 Block 52 / 160$ / 0.2.0.0.1
F-15C / 170$ / 0.0.0.0.1
-=UK=-
Sea Harrier FRS.1 / 70$ / 5.0.4.0.3
Tornado F.2 / 115$(+5$) / 0.3.0.0.2
Tornado F.3 / 135$ / 0.0.0.2.0
Eurofighter Typhoon / 175$ / 0.0.0.0.1
-=FR=-
Crusader / 60$ / 5.0.4.0.3
Mirage F1C / 90$ / 4.0.0.3.0
Mirage F1C-200 / 105$ / 0.3.0.0.2
Mirage 2000C RDI / 120$ / 3.0.0.2.0
Rafale C F1 / 180$ / 0.0.0.0.1
-=W.GER=-
F-4F / 70$ / 5.0.4.0.3
F-4F KWS / 140$ / 0.0.0.2.0
-=CAN=-
CF-101B Voodoo / 45$ / 6.0.5.0.4
CF-188 Hornet / 130$ / 3.0.0.2.0
-=DAN=-
CF-104 / 60$ / 5.0.4.0.3
F-16A Block 15 / 120$ / 3.0.0.2.0
-=SWE=-
J-35D Draken / 50$ / 6.0.5.0.4
J-35D Draken / 75$(-5$) / 5.0.4.0.3
JA 37 Viggen / 105$(-5$) / 0.3.0.0.2
JAS-39 Gripen / 150$(-10$) / 0.0.2.0.0
-=NOR=-
F-16AM / 150$(-10$) / 0.0.2.0.0
-=ANZAC=-
Mirage IIIO(F) / 70$(-10$) / 5.0.4.0.3
F-4E Fantom / 90$(-10$) / 4.0.0.3.0
-=JAP=-
F-104J RYU / 60$ / 5.0.4.0.3
F-4EJ / 90$ / 4.0.0.3.0
F-15J / 145$(-5$) / 0.0.2.0.0
-=N.KOR=-
KF-5E Jeong-Ho / 75$ / 5.0.4.0.3
F-16C Peace Bridge / 100$ / 0.3.0.0.2
KF-16C / 130$(-10$) / 0.0.0.2.0
-=E.GER=-
Mig-21Bis LAZUR / 80$(-5$) / 4.0.0.3.0
Mig-23ML / 90$(-5$) / 4.0.0.3.0
Mig-29 9-13S / 150$ / 0.0.2.0.0
-=USSR=-
Mig-23ML / 65$ / 5.0.4.0.3
Mig-23MLD / 90$ / 4.0.0.3.0
Mig-25PD / 100$ / 0.3.0.0.2
Yak-141 / 140$ / 0.0.0.2.0
Su-27S / 155$(+5$) / 0.0.2.0.0
Su-27PU / 180$ / 0.0.0.0.1
-=POL=-
Mig-19PM / 50$ / 6.0.5.0.4
Mig-21Bis / 80$ / 4.0.0.3.0
Mig-23MF / 80$ / 4.0.0.3.0
Mig-29 9-13S / 135$ / 3.0.0.2.0
-=CSSR=-
AVIA S-105 / 40$ / 6.0.5.0.4
Mig-21MF-75 / 70$ / 5.0.4.0.3
Mig-23ML / 100$ / 0.3.0.0.2
-=CHI=-
J-7II / 45$ / 6.0.5.0.4
J-7IIM / 55$ / 5.0.4.0.3
J-78IIB / 80$ / 4.0.0.3.0
J-78C / 100$ / 0.3.0.0.2
Su-27SK / 150$ / 0.0.2.0.0
-=N.KOR=-
F-6C / 40$ / 6.0.5.0.4
F-7B / 55$ / 5.0.4.0.3
Mig-23ML / 95$ / 4.0.0.3.0
Mig-29 9-12B / 120$(-10$) / 3.0.0.2.0
Pending tweaks. F-14 going to two cards of one as well.
>p.8
>>136765971
>>bothering with german planes
The Peace Rhine is good, particularity since France has no F&F fixed wing tank killers.
>>136774078
>F-14 going to two cards of one as well
shame about that, interceptors back to 'literately useless' tier again.
>>136776982
The whole concept of being able to take down any plane from accross the map without any threat to your own planes is pretty broken. Even if it is a rather low chance.
>>136774078
>china getting a single veterancy increase on the su-27
>dprk getting four mig-23 and three mig-29 at veteran
Cool. Every little bit helps.
>>136777882
Agreed, interceptors are lame and I'm fine with them being effectively cast aside. The F-15A buff makes up for it in my eyes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r29k_T_o9To
>all those t-55s
>they have more armor than my pattons
is the campaign supposed to be that hard ? never got a chance to refit battlegroups
>>136779327
The WRSA has a shitload of penetration, you should be fine.
>>136776982
F-14 was buffed to give US a fighter that is competitive with the scandi and PD meta. With the overhaul fixing the 130-160pt bracket, it will no longer be needed.
>>136776982
Good riddance. Finally the MiG-31M can rule the skies again.
>>136779327
use the sabres, set up a firing line so they get contested crossing the bridge, the bring in sabres in groups of three. the spawn right on top of the enemy
Dadudu ;_;
>>136782630
>implying the mig-31m isn't a waste of a plane slot
Should I bother with Tochon 152mm or just spam heavy mortars as DPRK? i'm trying to find a balance using 8 Tochons ans rolling barrage artillery, and 3 mortars as anti atgm infantry/infantry blob sniping and smoke laying.
>>136786604
Mortars > grad > tubes.
>>136788653
>shitting on tubes
Help. I've been trying to update for 2 hours already.
Last battle felt like a little too easy. Enemy had no AA at all - Strela-2 doesn't count as it has more chances to hit my helos with AK than with it's missile. He had no artillery bar some 82mm Vasileks. And he attacked my positions with piecemeal groups that were easily dealt with.
>>136789850
You just have to wait37 days.
>>136790980
>error during the download
Cant say Im surprised. If anyone has that game (its free), I'd appreciate a mirror.
>>136790153
This campaign goes much better for you than previous randomised one
>>136795715
I agree, at least so far. ATGMs just rape the fuck out of poor Russians AI who can't use smoke and for some reason has no useful AA.
Although next mission looks hardcore, judging simply by the amount of assistance I get. Two FRG mech inf companies, two tank platoons, some ATGMs with HOT and lots of F-104 starfighters with some Alpha Jets. Didn't use jets lately, not sure I'll be able to use them effectively.
I've already started taking losses here and there, this isn't looking that bright. Best moment so far - ATGM duel between Cobra and Mi-2, Cobra won.
![094a05ecc186568e78ea72175d403551a249fde76e1908d620a22d3c8bd913e5[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/JdCHcWu.jpg "094a05ecc186568e78ea72175d403551a249fde76e1908d620a22d3c8bd913e5[1]")
Ground Control 2 is still $2 for the next 8 hours on GOG
Map has large height again, so tranfering reinforcements isn't that easy. Good thing I've save some points on repairs - last two missions I had almost no casualties - and got me a mech inf company, so I have a layered defence of some sort - Germans in the front line, Murricans in the second line.
>p.9
>>136793981
I'm uploading it to mega but it could take a while my internet is shit
Really intense mission. Lost a recon heli to enemy arty barrage. Enemy Mi-24 got hit by arty too, retreated to its base. Just like in good ol' Wargame.
Redeyes and Stingers are mostly ineffective against enemy planes - even if they hit, the don't bring them down immideately. Gepard and Chapparal on the other hand are rather good - MiG-23 and Su-25 are grounded forever. Lost an Alpha Jet myself, he didn't even make it to the target zone.
Some losses here and there, mostly to the enemy artillery and air strikes.
Nothing really threatening so far, apart from this hard push in the north, but it's just turn 5 of 45 total turns. I'm said to be fighting enemy tank regiment, so I expect much more troubles to come.
>>136800759
is there a screenshot function in winspmbt?
>>136802590
What's wrong with a normal screenshot
Northern positions are overruned, trying to retreat gracefully and save as many troops as possible. No serious action so for in the middle, yet it's where most of my inf defences are set up.
In south it seems like enemy is about to launch an attack, nothing to worry about yet, unless there's an enemy tank company in that forest to the east.
For some weird reason my planes arrive from enemy side of the map (even though I've set approach and evac explicitely) and I'm losing them before they do any good. This turn Alpha Jet actually did harm - he fell right on top of marder, crew is dead, vehicle is non-repairable.
>>136802590
I'm using Faststone Image Capture + good ol' paint.
>>136784917
Why, what are you going to use instead, an SU-27PU?
>implying I don't have MiG-25PD in another slot
Step aside, interceptor master race passing through.How do you like the thought of MiG-25PD + MiG-31 + MiG-31M? :^)Just kidding, MiG-31 (not M variant) is shit in RD. This combination works only in ALB
>>136804314
>+ good ol' paint
why? that program should allow you to get cropped images with a single keybind
>>136804059
Cant play it in fullscreen and I dont like having my taskbar on the screens
>>136805018
Elite MLD, elite PU, even elite Yak is better than 31M. Personally I'd go for MLD because you always need a reliable helo killer and the PD can't do that, and because it can do a pretty good job as ASF if sent alongside a PD as opposed to solo.
Taking 31M over PU is madness.
>>136805980
Just use fucking puush
>>136806126
thanks anon
>>136793981
Here you go m8
https://mega.nz/#!Cog0lICS
>>136807132
>encryption key
>>136807132
Missing the decryption key
>>136807426
>>136807527
Sorry I always forget it
!F_bhwkUsO-ycyGLHFdfzZ25xzDh_uddf8UqMBz4U5TU
>>136807872
There it goes, thanks senpai. Have some soldiers at rest.
>>136805496
Was a bit too lazy to spend precious game time on setting up proper pictureflow. Good thing you mentioned it, will finally do that tomorrow.
What went wrong?
>>136809659
It sucks at the one thing it was designed to do.
>>136809659everything, Sheridan a shit
>>136809659
Americans can't design missiles.
>>136806034
I like the Yak, am I a bad person?
>>136814254
No, you're just not powergaming all that hard.
>>136809659
Clappers cant GLATGMs, and the failure of the Shillelagh tainted an otherwise successful project.
ded
>>136819250
very ded
M113
>>136821408
Congratulations, you passed the test and used the correct name for the metal box. You get to keep living.
rate me family
>>136825219
no, get that b8 outta here
SPOOKY JEDNOTKY
>>136825772
how dare you display that lovely hair man in such a sexist, out character pose. I demand you change it because my 8 year old daughter follows world politics and I want this to be a world for her to grow up in without worrying about how she should groom her beard
>>136825219
>Korean fobs
>60 activation
>>136825219
Replace the tank cv with a command helo and the navy seals with cav scouts.
>>136825219
Flawless
deder
>>136829605
eddie vedder
https://youtu.be/PxszRVT5duE
M113
rip
Gavin
>>136836031
Triggered
>>136745026
There's just no way Russian bombers are that accurate
wen u nut but she stil sukin
>Make a push over open terrain
>No less than 2 Su-22 seria 30,su-24m, an su-25k, and 2 su-25T bum rush me
Call in delays when
10
is it time to let go?
>>136855391
Never give up!
Is this a semi-accurate depiction of the Iraqi Army, circa 1991?
>>136861697
Also, the invasion force.
>my thread lives through another night
Thank you, Western anons!
>>136806034
Enjoy your ASF while my interceptors fire at it from the safety of my air defense.
and straight to p.10
BMP 1
p.8
p.10
>>136875940
Never change Burgerstan
>>136875940
>evacuation
>USA WINS!
>>136841014
>GPS (well, glonass) guided bombs are not real
>>136861697
>t-64bm and t-72b
>in iraq
>>136809659
You look at it the wrong way and it blows up.
The tank can be destroyed with a flamethrower because alunium armor.
>>136880559
Syrian civil war is a wonderful thing
this whole decade is going places
p.9
>>136882504
>>136883540
KV-2 > jagdtiger
>page 10
>>136890141
>again
Ded
>>136894623
Super ded
bmp
Damn, this battle is tiring. Played it for a few hours today already, and only 1/3 of it is done.
Here's the sitrep.
Biggest threat so far was a breakthrough in the southern part of the map. They didn't push straight to next point, instead they went north and were threatening my ATGM positions.
Although some reinforcements from the middle, nicely placed cluster bombing and some artillery fire stopped them fairly easy. Few losses here and there, but I'm pretty sure we'll be able to hold in case of another assault. Unless the enemy brings T-64 there - then I'll have to rely on my heli support to stop them.
Middle, that was expected to be the main axis of the enemy attack, is surprisingly quiet. Few tanks, some inf constantly pinnded down under mortars firing, pretty much thats it.
And finally the north, where the enemy pushed the hardest. I've left the little village, but the enemy had nothing to exploit the success. Even if he had - that wasn'y my main killing zone. You can notice brave observers in the little patch of tree to the north of the road - they have a magical TI tech on them, so enemy inf being under constant artillery fire, didn't even manage too leave the village.
And here is the hill which provides great view on both northern and middle approaches. ATGM vehicles and tanks there rack up pretty impressive kill-lists.
Generally this doesn't feel like as easy as before - enemy uses smoke pretty heavily and in sensible places, although for some reason he does it after middle and top pushes are already deflected. Artillery fire is heavy and, even though my troops are dug in, manages to get a kill here and there. He has some air (at least, had) MiG-21Bis with PGM were especially annoying, destroying my artillery spotter vehicle and a Gepard. Also he had (or still has) some SEAD - one missile that was targeting the Gepard missed it, but destroyed the Jaguar-1 (ATGM veh) instead. Also I've already lost both recon helos (one to the enemy arty) and I've using my Cobras much more conservatively. And Strela isn't that bad against low-ECM planes - got my Alpha Jet damaged by Strela-2 and finished off later by Shilka.
Oh fuck, just got two barrages from Uragan's. These things evaporate anything with low armor and infantry not in cover. I got lucky the strike hit APCs but not infantry - enemy is pushing again with armor, this time right through the forest, they'll come in handy.
>>136774078
>45pt planes
Why is this allowed?
Why isn't the minimum cost for all planes capped at ~120 shekels?
>>136903148
Because some of them are shit.
>>136903262
>some
>>136903262
And they should remain shit.
Why does Eugen insist on making Korean War era garbage usable?
>>136885971
Not realist.
Why no overpenetration?
t. Warthunder dev
>>136904846
>no argument
>resorts to memes
>>136908124
If we remove shitposting, will the thread die?
>>136908252
Its woild be extremely ded
>>136908521
You're big meme
http://steamcommunity.com/games/302670/announcements/detail/887580451729176810
Call to Arms is only $6.24 buy it you chuckle fucks
>>136909149
For you
They really want that highway as it seems. My losses are high, but manageble. Mostly German tanks and ATGM vehicles, rationale is simple - it's their country, so they should be dying for it.
Even though the Red Juggernaut hasn't come that far - only those two points are captured - I'm transfering the reinforcements from the north which seems to be completely safe.
And once again Cobras are here to save the day. Just check this one out - he's drank a gallon of commie tears in this battle alone.
why is anzac so funto lose with?
come on, /wgg/, I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you.
zehn
>>136914421
Word, cunt. Why not going moto?
Any other people here play John Tiller games?
>>136926915
I'm familiar with them but have never played any.
>>136926915
>the sausage war
I find those icons more confusing than I should. As for your question, saw that game but went for War in the East.
ded
>>136932039
i'll go to sleep, keep the thread pls for a night.
>>136932591
We'll keep the fort, sir.
>>136932904
Thanks, comrade!
>>136925032
I don't know.
>>136903148
>low cost planes
Ohh you missed the good old times...
China is growing, despite the best effort of the africans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0C4_88ub_M
>>136945873
Do these mounds of fat not impair her aim?
>tfw 6rpm
we are already dead
>>136861960
Both too modern and too old, the British tanks for instance would exclusively have been Challenger 1s, recon Scimitars, possibly Scorpions/AVRE Cents
Filenames
>captcha: Post all images with a recreational vehicle (RV)
>>136947529
>tfw a pair of tomcats is 50 more pts than a pair of Nork subpar Mig29
Did anyone ever play that early access WWII TW game before it died?
>>136879870
about as real as the R-77
>perpetually on page 10
>90% of the posts are bumps
Boy am I glad those planeposters left
>>136953758
abrahams look so weird without the turret-mounted MGs
>>136965565
Still realer than the soviet military in 1995.
rip
>>136948567
Type-59 are not as terrible as they seem when combined with flame troops in forests.
>>136970587
Nothing is terrible combined with competent infantry in forests
>>136971741
Once upon a time competent infatry in forest were terrible. Cet Mk5 meta was the best, except perhaps the 55HE AKs patch or the fast rope bug patch in the beta.
>>136965761
fuck off faggot and take hexshitters with you
>>136972307
Ayy lmao
>>136972307
I dont play hexgames and I become violently motion sick from flight sims and I wish we could still all get along and share one autistic 20th-21st century military games thread.
>>136971904
cent mk5 had literally 0 offroad speed.
>>136972956
It still spent a patch as king of the forest. Wargame has come a long way in balance.
10, the thread is made of bumps, followed by bumps.
Anyone here play squad? I want to play with some milsim bros
>still no strella tanks
>>136979843
bump
>>136932591
I'm back and the thread still alive! Good news.
>>136983462
I'm heading to work Slav bro, keep the fire going
>>136983685
Going to uni soon as well, but will bump anyway, I have a lot of content on my phone.
>>136980239
HON
Mfw going to class I haven't been for two months, knowing that most likely I'm gonna be expelled because of that
I don't know what to do with my life.
Bump with best literatureI'd kill myself but I don't want /wgg/ to die.
>>136993042
You got the one with the flying Shilka?
>>136993370
Here you go senpai
>>136421757
w-what game
>>136993947
WinSPMBT, my friend. Available for free on the official site
>pic limit reached
Well, that's an achievement
>>136998981
Not really when every bump is a bmp.
Man, Theatre of War 2 is hard as fuck. Spotting enemies is a chore, infantry get chewed up on an advance, and your maneuver elements will get schwacked from across the map and lose a track.
How do I git gud?
>>136993120
Is this the russian version of Gate?
>>137000907
I know that one ultrapatriotic Gate fanfic (literally a fanfic) got published here in Motherland, but that's not it.
>>136993473
Thanks senpai
>>136926915
Played substantial amount of Modern Campaigns: Danube Front. Rather good, possibly would play again.
>>136993473
I laughed so hard when I first saw it.
What's the Mius Front link in the OP? It's pretty huge, is it just the full game?
>>137000636
Just play something better, it's no good.
>>137004093
Yeah, I figured that out. Already uninstalled it.
>>136910161
Brutal
>>137004028
Yes
Is the nork t-72m okay now?
>>137007462
Still overcosted and inferior to other T-72 variants. Nork armor is depressing in general; half of their entire selection is stuck at 6rpm without an autoloader. The selling point was always above-average AP with shitty accuracy, ROF, range, speed, and armor, forcing you to play them as ambush units. Balance changes have seen other nation's tanks gain comparable AP whilst still being superior in terms of all other stats.
I'd post a comparison but we're at the image limit.
ded
Now we have to actually talk to each other.
>>137018753
uh h-hi...
>>137019056
D-d-do you come here often?
Nork recon t-55 Has an mg though. Kind of nice, but only 300 rnds so its dry almost immediately.
>>137019267
y-yes! sometimes i even make the OP
>>137019549
Who's your tankfu? Mine is t-64b.
>>137020965
Not that anon, but t-80U is best looking tank for sure.
>Image limit reached
new thread?
>>137020965
Pz IV
>>137020965
Leclerc
>>137020965
Abrams...
>>137022208
>FREEDOM
Picture of a bmp.
>>137026306
That's a btr.
Picture of Euro deck
Pls r8
>>137026937
Picture of a smug anime girl
NotPact/10
>solid 60 fps on Operation Star
>Solid 25 on Mius front
what the fuck
Which are meme settings that dont do anything but cost FPS
>pic of Kim Jong ill smiling whilst looking off into the distance
>picture of an anime girl with a gun
>picture of a ded thred
>>137020965
IS-2 for WW2 and T-80UD for cold war
>>137032492
>IS-2
>a literal meme tank
>>137032690
That would be kw-2
>>137032296
It's npt a picture, it's reality.
>>137032690
IS-2 became a meme already? Damn I'm old.
>they have T-43-85
>no is-2/3/8
EUGENE THIS IS ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE
>>137034562
>T-43-85
Absolutely haram
>IS-8
die
SOMEONE MAKE A NEW THREAD THIS IS GETTING PAINFUL
>>137035173
kek
>captcha:select all images with planes
its a sign
>>137034993
>>T-43-85
Well sorry, I mistyped
>die
>not wanting based soviet heavies
Bluecuck pls
>>137035654
>IS-8
>being mass produced EVER
That's the exact bullshit that makes my eyes bleed. It's the same as calling M1A2 Abrams an XM1.
>>137037119thread, live!
I love you guys
>>137039152i-i love you too!
You're all going to have to accept the death of this general already.
>>137040681
Truth hurts.
>>136555720
Are there any torrents that have more than 2 seeders?
>>137040681
Nuts
>guys, let's make combat vehicles out of aluminium!
What was the rationale behind this?
>>136861960
The VDAA and the Cassiopée ever entered service.
You can use the Gazelle (Canon or Celtic) and Crotale instead.
Legion '90 is too modern since they use the Eryx ATGM. Use regular Legion or RIMa '85 instead.
>>137047876
>guys, lets make tanks light enough for planes/choppers.
ded
>>136971904
>fast rope bug patch
Fast roping in Wargame? I thought that was a Project Reality meme.
I was there when the 40 HE AKM bug happened, but what is this fast roping about?
Is it as hilarious as ships on land?
>>137054771
All the way up to the nswp patch I believe.
>>137056138
it only lasted a few weeks back in beta
>>137057615
>what do you mean 40 years ago? I just came back from vietnam last month
The memories are still vivid in my mind anon.
>>137063316
how
>tfw image limit and can't post BMPs
>>137068327
someone end this pain please
>>136414126
why would an m113 be in the front lines in west germany?
