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Exhibitionism edition

Discussion about the making or playing of English Language Visual Novels.

Do you have a question about a Japanese visual novel or a translation of it?
/vn/ is ready to answer it.
Want to talk about Katawa Shoujo or similar evns? /ksg/ is the place for you.

>Getting Started:
http://pastebin.com/7LsCvtq3 (embed)

>Recommended Reading:
https://vndb.org/v/all?q=;fil=olang-en.tagspoil-0;o=d;s=rating

For Developers. Huge collection of guides on everything:
http://meganelover.com/post/122965940223/visual-novel-creation-masterlist

Ren'Py Download:
http://www.renpy.org/

Previous Thread >>136258393
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Dead at 138 lol. Third-world anon reporting for Good Friday bumping.
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Sorry about that, I was watching a Chinese imperial harem drama.
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Even yuri can't save /evn/.
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>>136374297
based WC
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I missed you guys.
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What's the best way to show the MC?
Half body behind textbox
Small face/shoulders inside textbox
Small Body in front of text box
Or something else?
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>>136376525
I prefer either none or a normal sprite like the other characters.
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>>136376525
there is no best way so do what you like.
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>>136374297
Winged Cloud is saving yuri.
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>>136378621
It's probably just a dream sequence
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>>136381659
What's the point of making a game with 20+ year olds if they all look thirteen?
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>>136381879
Makes people feel better about their natural pedo desires.
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>>136381879
on the plus side you can get past the Steam Pedo Gatekeepers.
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>>136381879
All Characters Are At Least 18 Years Of Age
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>Welcome to Romantic Retirement
>All characters are at least 80 years old.
>All text enlarged to %300 of normal size,
>for your easy reading pleasure.

Also bmpu.
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>>136385615
>Romantic Retirement

retirement homes are basically real-life eroge.
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>>136385615
That's p. cute tbqh.
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>>136386078
Hell yeah, pops is getting it busy. He isn't controlled by his benis since it doesn't function like it used to, so he's all about the romance.

>Coming Winter 2017
>Please remember to take your meds, and we'll see you then!
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>>136386078
Oh man, too bad the MC probably has no energy to do so many characters.
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>>136386078
retirement homes are real-life yuri eroge, all the men die off first

although I suppose you could be the last man standing, trying to score before your heart gives out
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>>136388820
>witty, ambitious woman with a sharp wit
Maybe if they say it enough, it'll be true.
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Since the thread seems to keep dying without any drama around, let me make some. I did an edit to Tao's recent character design, but probably not the one most people were expecting. Her lips are fine, but I prefer girls with a clearer skin tone, so I erased her freckles. Opinions?
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>>136390101
I still think those lips make it feel like her face is melting
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>>136390101
The freckles were cute.
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>>136369882
and what game is this pic from ?
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>>136390518
I thought they made her look too young for her age (assuming she's around college age like Nadia) and that they detracted from her eyepatch.
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>>136390663
The eyepatch already blends in with the hair, the eye color is the first thing I noticed, with or without freckles.
I think the freckles are just a matter of preference like you said.
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>>136390101
Looked much better with freckles imo. This is why I don't ask 4chan for help with character designs. Everyone has an ideal design for each and every character.

I remember in old /ic/ people used to constantly get critiques of their artwork. Should change this, change that, I don't like this, this is too short, etc, etc. Eventually you'd end up with a husk of a character that has no appeal. Like some kind of Frankenstein born out of everyone's separate ideologies of exactly what a character should be.

PS bump
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>>136390101
let it go
let it gooooo~
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>>136391127
My eyes kept being drawn to them instead of her eyepatch, but that might be because I'm sensitive to imperfections on the skin.

The trope youthful freckles also came to mind and combined with her petite stature, made me think she was a young teen(16 years old max). Considering the ages of the rest of the cast though, I'm assuming she's in her early twenties.
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>>136391613
Weirdo spotted.
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>>136391551
I'm not the same person. I just don't want the thread to die again. You come up with a better way to keep the thread going.
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>>136391707
That's my line.

bump
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>>136391765
Keeping a thread alive with drama or shit posting is the worst idea. Let them die, or simply bump with empty posts before resorting to such things.
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Is Solstice any good?

There's also a new free evn http://store.steampowered.com/app/445230/
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>>136392017
this.
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>>136391613
She's supposed to look like a loli, dummy. Looking young is the whole point.
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>>136392689
He should've given her a lolipop.
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>>136392521
>cute art
>free to play

Nice.
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>>136392521
Count the number of things wrong with this screenshot.
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>>136392689
Trigger warning click below at your own risk.
What kind of loli has slut lips?
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What nanoreno releases are you looking forward to?
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>>136393134
Exactly. That's why they look bad. She has a loli's body with a slutty older woman's face.
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>>136393224
None of them
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>>136392521
>Someone shitposting as nano in the reviews
This is a sad day.
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>>136393287
You forgot your trigger warning.
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>>136391551
are you the one writing a frozen VN?
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>>136393134
>>136393287
but girls have lips. There are many animus with lips. Reminds me of Saya from blood+.
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Disney ships the Frozen sisters. I saw a t-shirt at my local Walmart that had them holding hands and gazing at each others eyes romantically.
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>>136393557
I never really saw Saya as petite though. She always looked mature to me too.
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Have you played the King of EVNs yet?
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>>136393130
Everything looks perfect to me.
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>>136393941
True. Maybe the artist is French? French artists love adding lips to their art. They make it look pretty good too.
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>>136394106
>Made in Ren'Py
I bet that's something PyTom is proud of.
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>>136394221
If you mean the above sprite, then I'm pretty sure he's from the US.
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>>136390101
Legs are still fucked
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>>136390530
A shitty one
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>>136394221
What do you think of this other one he drew?
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>>136393525
no but im writing a yuri incest vn.
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>>136394518
>That voluptuous body
>Those Africa starving tier thighs

No. This is a crime.
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>>136394518
An abomination sent from the depths of hell.
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>>136394337
Why wouldn't he be proud knowing that the greatest EVN to date was made with his help?
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>>136394807
Why are all characters either too fat or not fat enough?
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>>136395023
Jokes aside, it is very well presented. Production quality in face.
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>>136369882
Spoonfeed me OP
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>>136395076
I like almost any size of character, but they really should be consistent throughout if it's a single character. Stick legs supporting a Greek Goddess upper body does not computer.
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>>136395119
I wasn't joking.
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I want to lick her flat chest.
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>>136395231
>her
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>>136395227
But it's not real, so what does realism matter? It's anime style, so it especially doesn't matter.
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>>136395357
It matters when it looks bad.
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>>136395338
Are you one of the plebs who thought she was a dude?

I wasn't sure at first myself, I was 50/50 on whether she was female or not. I'm bisexual, so she was hot either way it turned out.
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>>136394807
I think he wanted to give her a thigh gap but you can't have your cake and eat it too. Either make a fatty or make somebody who can actually have a thigh gap.

>>136395357
I bet anything you'd say a loli with Z-cups looked weird. It's about proportions, not realism. Having a thick character with tiny chicken legs just looks odd.
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>>136395357
>It's anime style, so it especially doesn't matter.
Lots of stuff on deviantart is anime style too, doesn't mean it can't look bad, wrong, or off. Anime style art is still art. It doesn't get a special pass just because it's animu style. Anyway, it's personal preference. You asked me why and I answered, but now you sound like you're trying to change my mind on the matter? You startin somethin bro?
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>>136395468
But it's all a matter of opinion, so nothing can objectively look bad!

>>136395573
>I bet anything you'd say a loli with Z-cups looked weird.
Imouto Paradise vn looks just fine to me.
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>>136395619
It's all a matter of opinion, so anything can look bad to me and I can bitch about it.
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>>136395619
Literally none of the characters in Imopara fit that description.
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>>136396102
Nobody has a Z-cup in anything, that's not a thing
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>>136397362
>102zzz
>Triple Z
Oh but it is, friend. Watch at your own peril.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h-vTuFKNf4
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>>136397362
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I offer to you, one final bump, before I go into the night.
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How to /evn/ Easter?
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>>136369882
Google gave nothing, what game is this?
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>>136385615
>%300 larger text
that doesn't sound bad desu
especially for EVN with awful color choices for textbox and font
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>>136393130
I like the toggle-able quick menu button desu
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How 2 choose colors?
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>>136403118
steal palette from something else?
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>>136403914
That's not good, anon.
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>>136404349
it's alright for beginners. learning values is far more important than color.
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But I don't want to receive the scorn of an increasingly Leftist LSF...
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>>136404651
You really shouldn't care about LSF.
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>>136404651
I'm not sure that means what you think it means.
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>tfw you don't really like how one of the routes is turning out, but afraid to say anything in case the writer bolts
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>>136406156
Do you really think they would quit because someone voiced some concerns?
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>>136406483
Who knows, some people are touchy as fuck.
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>>136393557

Or Chimera Ant Kite who was a loli with lips/
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even gentler, sleepier bump
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It's not like I want you to live or anything
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What is the point of kinetic novels? I really don't understand. Why not just read/write a book? You'd get a lot more assurance of it being actually worth your time.
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>>136413452
I guess people just prefer the medium and want to present their story with art and music.

That said, I personally agree with you that it seems kind of pointless. Lack of user interactivity is a big minus in my book. And that's why I got bored with Grisaia after it failed to give me a single decision for at least four hours of reading.
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>>136413452
Why does there need to be a point? It's just another form of storytelling.

A book and a KN should not be compared to each other. They are entirely different mediums, the reading experience, the writing style, everything is vastly different. It may not be for everyone, and some developers may not show it for all its strengths, but the KN medium has the potential to provide a very powerful work and should not be discounted just because it lacks choices.
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>>136413452
Why even read comic books or watch movies? Just read books
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>>136413452
What is the point of fiction? Just live real life.
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P10LEB
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>>136397582
Make it stop.
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>>136407709
Wait until they're finished with the rest of it and then say something about it.
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>>136413756
Even though people think that vns should be full of choices, the fact is that many of them aren't. I've played many 25-30 hour games that either had few and far between choices, or seemingly pointless choices that didn't really effect much.

Kinetic novels are no exception. You can have transitions, animations, and changes in poses and expressions just like any other vn. The story and characters become much more important in that type of vn.
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>>136369882
Source please!
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>>136419202
My Little Sister Invited Me To Hot Springs And Now Her Crush Is Touching My Penis?!!
coming (heh heh) in 2017
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Confess /evn/.
How many of you are currently using highly-saturated hair dye.
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>>136420909
My hair is buzzed so no.
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>>136420909
I'm just making gaems
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>>136420909
>not embracing your natural beauty/hideousness
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>>136420909
I'm a failed human, I have no need for hair dye.
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>>136418748
Yeah, I'm aware. I personally prefer otherwise, but a good VN can definitely be written with minimal user input.
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>>136420909
I hate hair dye with a burning passion.
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>>136422457
What did it ever do to you?
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>>136422680
Frizz. And crazy exes.
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>>136369882
could someone please give us the name to the vn in op's picture? It's a fetish thing I'm chasing I don't care if it's good or bad.
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>>136420909
I am natural
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>>136422951
What exactly is making you interested about it?
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>>136423176
the art looks great and having women demand I masturbate in front of them turns me on
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>>136422951
I don't feel like looking through all of their stuff to get the title, but the art looks like something from an artist whose Patreon was posted in the last thread:

https://www.patreon.com/marblesyrup?ty=h

Have fun?
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>>136423675
instantly found it on that link, thanks bro
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>>136423834
No prob. Go crazy, you perve.
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>>136423047
lewd
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>>136420909
No, hypersaturated hair dye is for Tumblr users
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>>136420909
it looks like shit unless you have flawless skin and wear heavy makeup and what kind of dev has time for this
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>>136420909
I want to dye my hair green and do photosynthesis.
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>>136420909
I should so people stop calling me grandpa.
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p10lqb
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>>136420909
I would except my hair is too dark to take on dye without bleaching it first and that's too much effort
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>>136435706
[x] punch in the boob
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>>136436294
>put it in
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>>136435706
You can't be funny and smart. That's against the rules.
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>>136437929
Well then they better lock you up, anon. Because you're both to me ;)
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>>136437929
You can if you're a huge piece of human garbage in any other aspect, like me.
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Tfw Black Sands becomes vn of the year.
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>>136440338
But anon, surely the brilliance of Highway Blossoms, which should only be experienced in its whole purity, will outshine all else?
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>>136440338

but it's not a VN, it's a (insert pretentious word that means basically the same).
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>>136440338
game looks nice but they need to fix the performance issues. and the dev needs to shut up forever.
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Tao's doing a series of posts about Let'sPlays and vn sales on Twitter. Do the plays really not see a spike in sales?
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>>136444924
They do if you're actually somebody. Has an EVN ever been played by an actual "A-list" e-celeb rather than the hundreds of D-listers?
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>>136444924
They absolutely do, IF it's played by someone who has a sufficiently high viewer count and IF the game looks like fun / tempts the watcher to try it themselves.

Getting TotalBiscuit to play your game is worth a ton of money. Dodger is worth money. Some random with 1000 followers isn't noticeable.
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>>136440338
>$5k PC
>Can't run nigger "VN"
Yeah, nah.
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>>136446431

Toko was played by Dodger and Tao's saying sales didn't even bump. Those videos have tons of likes and views and positive feedback. I think getting TB or Dodger to play your game earning you sales is only true for non-linear games.
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>>136444924
>Do the plays really not see a spike in sales?

he's saying if you have a super linear KN that can be played in a little over one hour it will kill sales.

which is arguably another problem in itself.
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>>136446431
>IF the game looks like fun / tempts the watcher to try it themselves

Let me repeat that for emphasis. You want people to see an LP and feel interested but unsatisfied, so they go and play the game themselves.

If a game is SHORT, and has NO CHOICES, why would the watchers go and buy it? They've just been given the whole thing on a platter.

If a game is LONG, then only cheapskates are going to watch the whole thing in an LP (which might never finish). Many players, if they're interested, will drop the LP and go to play the game themselves. If they're not interested enough to buy at all, or can't afford it, they'll just stick with the LP.

If a game has CHOICES, then you watch the LPer and you think "I wouldn't do that, I would do this instead" and that motivates you to go get the game yourself.
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>>136446746
Toko is like an hour long.
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Help, I need a good idea for an interactive sexy VN. I had one, but I decided I didn't like it because it's too hard to implement reasonably.
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Well, from personal experience, if I watch a game on a letsplay I have no incentive to play the game. That's how I view most games now. Watching other people play them. For something like a visual novel, I can't really see it being that good of a thing to have someone play your game in it's entirety. TB is a different story though, since he would just review it (he doesn't review VNs btw).
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>>136447035

That's an exaggeration, if you look at the reviews to see average play length, it's closer to 2-3 hours depending on your reading speed. Dodger did multiple videos of it all with high view counts and that should have increased sales but he claims it didn't.
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>>136447213
Orgasm Girl 2016 edition
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> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/monstrous-lovers-a-boy-s-love-visual-novel#/
>11k

good luck but whew. hope you have your shill game on.
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>>136447578
Anything more VN like?
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>>136448326
Orgasm Girl 2016 Edition: Story Expansion
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>>136448045
You might want to clarify the voice acting will be in Spanish.
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>>136448045
Yeah, that's what I'll be doing this whole month.

>>136448842
I knew I was forgetting something. I just added it.
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>>136448503
I don't know about this anon.
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>>136448045
"Rotwang" still sounds like a venereal disease (yeah I know that's what the guy in the movie was called)
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>>136450250

Well, a lot of German in general sounds like venereal diseases.
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I have no motivation. I'm out of ideas. I hate it when this happens.
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>>136452663
Spend a year or two totally depressed and then suddenly get inspired.
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>>136447548
I played it in under an hour.
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>>136453013
space bar masher detected

SLOW DOWN SPACE MASHER
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>>136452919
I just spent about 10 years being depressed, I don't think any inspiration is coming from that.
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>>136453208
Hmm then I'm out of ideas. Perhaps its time to change something.
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>>136447548
Review length is inflated by needing to idle for trading cards, anon.
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>>136453079
If I were doing that it would have been under 10 minutes.

Look at the playtime of people doing LPs with intro and outro and reading every single line aloud and pausing to make jokes. If it's only taking THEM 2-3 hours, it's a lot faster for people just reading the thing.

Unless you only read at a mumbling-everything-under-your-breath speed.
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>>136448045
>indiegogo
>fixed funding
but why
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>>136453520
also don't forget when they pause at the wacky CG scenes and take 10 minutes panning over it and making stupid faces.

I'm talking about LP'ers I've seen play other VNs mostly though, since I haven't seen/read The Demon Reject. Assuming it's the same.
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>>136453752
Removed the fixed funding part and I would have the same question. I thought Kickstarter would have the widest reach and be the easiest to hit such a large goal. Is Kickstarter not available for some countries?
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>>136453752

Kickstarter works through bank transfers, Indiegogo with paypal. Ignoring the fact that I would be taxed on the spot for the amount (and that the process to open a US account became too expensive recently), if the currency exchange rate were to fluctuate drastically like it has been in the past months I'd risk losing as much as 20% of the money when I had to pay people.

This wouldn't be a problem if we made a lot of $$ over the goal, but if we only got the 11k then we'd be short.

>>136454064
No, it's not.
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>>136454064
>Kickstarter not available for some countries?
no for a variety of reasons from being banned to needing a recognized bank account.

imo ML campaign should have set the VA as a stretch goal.
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>>136454819
>imo ML campaign should have set the VA as a stretch goal.

I have my heart set on VAs, but if it all goes south chances are that's what I'll do.
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>>136453910
or fanning themselves like fainting flowers at the slightest hint of boobies
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So, for numerous reasons, I decided to go for a separate CG artist from the main sprite artist I have for my monster girl game.

Obviously their style wasn't going to be able to 100% match the sprites, but I feel like they've done a really good job so far. Maybe the faces look a little different, but I'm hoping it won't be too jarring for people when it swaps between the two.

Spoilered just to be safe, though isn't really that NSFW.
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>>136456776
whatever brings in the big bucks. Lost Pause has built himself an empire on making stupid faces at breasts
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>>136456805
what do the sprites look like?
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>>136456805

As long as it's not Wild Catgirl Appears! tier I think people will be fine.
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>>136457128
I put the sprite of the mummy on the right of the CG for comparison
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>>136456805
>Mummy
>Not embalmed
Wry?
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>>136457503
If it's that similar you're worrying about nothing at all.
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>>136457734
I like my mummies full of life. And hometown.
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>>136455045
One of my followers points out that 'incorrigible' is misspelled in Vincent's character promo.
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>>136456805
That's quite close, few people will notice at all if it's mostly like that.

Honestly sometimes even the same artist has more jump between sprite and CG than that appears to be.
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I am bored. writers, describe to me your character and i will draw the one with the most interesting design tomorrow.
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>>136457884
>>136459141

Thanks, guys. That puts some of my worries to rest.

Going to have a demo out in the next couple of weeks or so, featuring two lewd scenes. That should hopefully be enough to generate interest for the full version.
Or I find out my lewd writing abilities are crap and everyone laughs at me. ;_;
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>>136459867
Slime and mummy?
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>>136459867
I'm just amazed that I'm not the only one in here working on a monster girl type VN. You seem to be a lot further along than me though. I'll look forward to the demo then.
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>>136458997
ha, figures that I have read the blurbs so many times my brain just kind of skips over the words. I'll got fix it, thanks!
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>>136460432
Yup! The ending of the demo will tease a third character (out of 5, each having two scenes each), but there's no actual scene with her included.

>>136460769
I was kind of surprised to find out there were so few monster girl EVNs when I started mine. We gotta stick together, man. Looking forward to seeing your project, too.

This project pretty much is just smut for smut's sake, though. I'm not pretending to be making some kind of big, deep story out of it. Somehow I get the feeling most people buying it would be okay with that, so long as there's at least some semblance of a plot to link together the lewds.
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>>136420909
It's pastel now because I haven't touched it up in a while.
I like lavender tho so it's fine.
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>>136458997
>>136461442

I just realized it's spelled wrongly because I wrote it in spanish.

jfc.
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>>136460769
>I'm just amazed that I'm not the only one in here working on a monster girl type VN.
There's at least three of us here.
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>>136461815
Awesome. I can't wait to show it off, but it will probably be a while since I'm slow and working alone. I was also surprised how few there are. We'll just have to change that I guess. Where are you planning on selling yours, if you don't mind me asking?
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>>136463258
Any progress pictures or blogs I can follow? I'm a huge fan of monster girls.
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>>136463653
>Where are you planning on selling yours, if you don't mind me asking?

coming soon, monster girl bundle.
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>>136463653
Haven't reached out to anyone yet since I was waiting until I had more to show for it.

I'm thinking Mangagamer, DLsite, and I think somebody here suggested denpasoft, too. I'll have to get in touch with each one and see what happens.
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>>136464183
It's too bad there's no r-18 on steam.
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>>136445237
Lost Pause seems to have the highest view count in evn.
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>>136464675
It does suck. I know most people are getting around that these days by selling the all-ages version of their game and then offering an uncensoring patch off-site, but I don't think I could get away with that, considering my VN would be missing the majority of its content in an 'all-ages' version.

Unless I invested in non-lewd CGs and rewrote the scenes. But that would be too much time and money for something I probably wouldn't even earn back. Plus, who wants non-lewd monster girls? What's the point
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>>136465250
>who wants non-lewd monster girls? What's the point
Not everything's got to be porn.
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>>136446919
I think being super long is what possibly made people buy Princess Evangile after watching its videos.
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>>136447035
It took me 2 hours. And after that I had to idle for cards.
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>>136463852
I've got a tumblr, but it's half progress, half shitposting.

I might link the demo when I'm done with it, though.
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>>136453356
The game didn't get cards until months after it released. Most of the reviews are before then.
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>>136466104
Doesn't the playtime still update after the review?
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>>136465792
What's the point of having a tumblr if you're not going to whore it out everywhere?
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>>136467092
I thought it was a snapshot of when the review was posted, if so, then the time wouldn't update.
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>>136465483
Everything must be porn.
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>>136467590
Every profile I've checked on other games the review-stated playtime matches their total playtime. It's possible that not one of them have ever played a game after reviewing it, but seems less likely.
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>>136446552
>5k PC
Why
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>>136469151
Probably bought a prebuilt "gaming PC"
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>>136459623
A lewd little girl with tan skin and slicked back hair.
Do I win by default?
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>>136465483
Said nobody ever.
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>>136470449
Said me, who loves porn.
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>$1600 to get 40,000 words from someone competent

guess i will be writing.
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>>136459623
Atrocious art.
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>>136475413
Are you that anti-lip anon? Just curious.
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>>136475413
That's far from atrocious art bro. It's just in a style you don't like.
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>>136476486
>there couldn't possibly be more than one person who thought the new sprite looked bad
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>>136476763
I realize that. I'm just genuinely curious. There aren't many trolls around here so the dickwads and abrasive posters really stand out I noticed.
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How much money do I need to throw at an artist so they could do dis? http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=651346103
How do I explain that I'm not dreaming about the scope?
How do I stop them from complaining about the aesthetic I want -- Should I throw even more money?
Will money be really enough?
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>>136478046
If you have to ask, you can't afford it.
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>>136478046
The question isn't whether money would be enough, it's whether you have enough.
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>>136478046
You do realize that's made by an actual studio in Japan right? A studio with multiple professionals with plenty of experience. Most likely more than one artist, etc. I'm not saying you can't buy that kind of talent to help you out, but I hope you have some major cash. I'm not talking about hiring someone off deviantart for a couple hundred either.
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Tried the Pale Spectrum demo: are you supposed to have played Brilliant Shadows to get it? It was full of short segments of story with characters that I assume were featured in another story and I simply didn't understand what this is going to be about, it didn't seem to have a hook.
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>>136483704
>Pale Spectrum is the sequel to Brilliant Shadows
gee anon I don't know
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>>136484632
It's limiting your audience if it makes no sense without the original, though. Throwing newbies a bone is not a bad plan.
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>>136484845
Or you could just go check out the original game instead of wondering why the immediate sequel doesn't make any sense.
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>>136484845
>>136483704
really ?
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>>136459623

23 year old girl
short, black hair with a bang
is very curious, eager to learn
easygoing
jokingly flirtatious
self-aware that she's fictional

basically told in a character interview that she's fictional, she doesn't exist in reality, but that's ok.
given the offer that she learn more about the real world, or become blissfully unaware of her fictionality she chooses the truth.
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>>136485104
i'm just saying in general, if your sequel makes absolutely no sense alone, you've capped your potential customers so advertising to anyone other than them is wasted
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>>136486214
Do you pick out random books in the middle of series and expect them to make sense?
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>>136486214
jfc
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>>136476982
I really dislike the hugbox mentality that some places have. You can't speak negative about anything without a bunch of artists and their jerkers coming to shit on you.

That said, no, I don't know who anti-lip is nor do I care. I just find it interesting how you have to assign 'names' on an anomyous image board.
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>>136486492
Have you noticed how many books these days DON'T label themselves as 'book 3 of 5' and DO include a little bit of basic grounding information, for precisely this reason?

I am baffled that this concept seems new to you. I'm not even the guy who first posted about the kickstarter, I'm just talking about general marketing strategies.
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>>136487731
>hugbox
>shit on you

Either you don't understand some of the words you're using or you're intentionally misusing them.
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>>136487731
>hugbox mentality
You seem to be implying that in order for a place to not be a 'hugbox' it must be full of assholes, which is not correct at all. If you can't handle not being a dick, maybe you just need a break from the Internet. I know it helps me when I feel like being a shit to everyone. Saying something sucks is completely useless to everyone. If you're going to say something is shit, at least give a reason why. This thread is largely troll and shitpost free, so there's no reason to bring the 4chan mentality on full force here.

>Atrocious art.

Come on, really? Are you just trying to be edgy? Do you think being an asshole is your 'escape' from what you claim to be a widespread 'hugbox' mentality? I doubt you ever post anything anywhere, but if someone ever replies to anything you made with a comment like that, you want to know why at least. Tell them why their art is atrocious. I won't even ask you to post your art, since you clearly don't make any(you seem very bitter about artists).

Do you want to talk about it? Something to get off your chest?
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>>136488420
I'm not retarded, so I've never needed this sort of thing.
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>>136489286
Just ignore them instead of going full lecture mode.
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>>136489969
You may not be, but customers often are.
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> sakura spirit manga

Finally, fapping without the pesky visual novel part.
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>>136490224
I guess I can't argue with that when there's evidence in this very thread. But anyway, their campaign succeeded, so it reached the people that mattered and could actually comprehend the word sequel.
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>>136490435
i am so baffled by this.
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>>136489286
>This thread, for once, is largely troll and shitpost free
ftfy
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>>136489286
>This thread is largely troll and shitpost free
It is also post and purpose free
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