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El Draque Edition.

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>[Servant Strengthening Quest - Part 1]
-March 23, 2016 16:00 JST to ~
-Several Servants will have a strengthening quest for them. Who exactly are they and how is to be revealed daily.
-You need them max ascended to do the quest. The quest itself will have no deadline.
The quests will be unlocked in the following order:
-March 23, 16:00 JST: Spartacus, Healing Skill Upgrade.
-March 24, 4:00 JST: Eric Bloodaxe, Def Down skill upgrade
-March 25, 4:00 JST: Charles Sanson
-March 26, 4:00 JST: Benkei
-March 27, 4:00 JST: Leonidas
-March 28, 4:00 JST: Boudicca
-March 29, 4:00 JST: Martha
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20160322b

>[1/2 Ascension/Materials Daily Quests]
-March 23, 2016 16:00 JST to March 30, 2016 13:59 JST
-Dailies Ascension/Materials AP cost will be halved.
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20160322

>[New Interludes]
-Arjuna and Karna will be getting the first part of their Interludes during the maintenance.

>News and Reminders
- Latest changes:
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php
- America to be written by Higashide


>Datamine
http://pastebin.com/LDRZ5ac5

>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>Frequently Asked Questions
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>Friendlist Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q7PleXm4aQWpc0-fvUhS-p9LMoept7nc5WtwkCUX0os

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info
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best daughteru
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It appears that the consensus is that none of the girls should even exist.
http://strawpoll.me/7167189
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>>136295426
BEST CAPTAIN.
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Nobu Thread!
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George Ruler when
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>>136295556
That's not really an achievement when her only competition is the worst Blackbeard portrayed in fiction.
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>>136295426
How come Wada is on point for most of the final ascension potraits? I mean look at this, it's perfect
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>>136295591
George and Benkei with their strongest skills when?
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>>136295461
it's lazy but it's effective.
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MANAKA
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Didn't got him despite over 1000 quartz and 18 gold ticket during rate up. God damn
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>>136295662
How is it even lazy? Spartacus now has a 5* tier healing skill and Memeaxe has the highest defense down skill in the game

They're actually not doing too bad, doesn't change the fact the servants that get these buffs are useless regardless
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>>136295773
One backstab wasn't enough
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>>136295879
Like I said, it's lazy cause they just decided to bump one number up on it, but it's still effective cause that's kind of a huge deal anyway.
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>>136295879
How is changing a number on an existing skill instead of adding a new one to Servants with only two skills not lazy? Especially when Martha is getting one of these upgrades. It's like the least possible work they could do. And on top of all that, they chose the two least popular Berserkers.

And his defense down is tied with Frankensteins, not the highest by itself.
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>>136295525
No Atilla or Scathach, what did you expect? Not even Lancer Alter or Saber Alter. You literally missed all the best girls, only listed waifubait trash.
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If you think about it. Drake is the only good rider we have right now.
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>>136295629
5* Blackbeard soon.

Now with Yami Yami no Mi
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>>136296120
Disagree senpai.
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>>136296120
>forgetting the sluts
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>>136295773
Cute.
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>>136296120
>Salter
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Sensei!

>>136296120
Don't forget the sluts.
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>>136296120
The sluts are also great, but not my cup of tea since I generally dislike QQAAB decks
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>>136296215
>>136296223
They need better attack animations. Pretty lackluster right now.
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What if Vlad a +atk skill instead of transformation and a normal NP modifier?
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>>136296340
Half of servants need new animations.

Like my king Arthur
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>>136296439
Grail ascension son, when they give her Avalon as a NP.
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>>136295525
http://strawpoll.me/7170209

Superior version
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>>136296439
>tfw my cat will never get an animation and NP gain upgrade
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Xth for Aniue
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>>136296494
Fucking when though? I would like pic related to be her sprite.
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>>136295773
The most punchable TM loli.
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>>136296120
>what is Salter
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http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2311638
Did Gudako just become hero of gacha?
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>>136296340
Not like they need it. Their whole use is for using stars and killing stuffs with their NP.
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>>136296819
I dunno, Illya really deserves a good punch in the face for a lot of FSN.
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Is Sumanai good paired with George or is he still shit?
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>>136296340
>muh animations
Unless you mean they should really look for more impressive, hit count pretty overrated. Base NP and star generation is always rationed accordingly.

It's why Gilgamesh isn't the best Servant in the game.
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>>136296841
Gudako was Shielder all along and Mashu was imaginary
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>>136296960
Pretty good.
Sometimes I pair Leonidas/George/Siegfried for maximum tanking.
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>>136296960
Still not very good. The damage he does after the enemies become dragons only lets him catch up to other decent units in damage.
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>>136297047
I meant for damage because George turns shit into Dragon.
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>>136296120
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>>136296841
>"Should I roll /fgog/"
>"NO dont the gacha is shit now!!"
>"Okeh"
>"Whew,well then should I do the roll myself?"

Everytime
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>>136296985
Not to mention their first skill + NP alone can gain a decent amount of stars because of the number of hits.
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>>136295781
We'll get him, someday.
Let us wait and hope for Astolfo Saber.
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>>136297121
No, his damage is still ass.
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>>136296120
Everyone keeps forgetting the sluts.
I mean ok, they are literal whos but come on.
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>>136297192
Could be higher with a maxed Lv Saber Mystic Code.
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>>136297352
>tfw hate the concept of the sluts but like them as characters
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>>136297121
Lets say average.
He just doesn't meant for damage for no apparent reason.

Well,its pretty good if you are going for Lancers map tho
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>>136296756
Does that pic of her exist without all the shit over it?
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>>136297412
Yeah, only level 8 at the moment. Need to max this shit so I can go back to leveling battle suit
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>>136297425
Two-in-one riders always make for good stuff
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>>136297425
Cute
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>>136296841
LIZ COMIC
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Is there any Servant in your roster you really really want to burn, but can't because it's gold?
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>>136298229
Marie
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>>136298229
Tamamo Cat.

I really dislike her but she's my only gold Berserker and I'm in a fence whether I should max ascend her or leave her at level 50.
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>>136298229
Dantes

I really wanted him when I first saw him in the roster, rolled his gacha for shits and giggles and actually got him

He's so edgy I want to burn him but he's a 5*
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>>136298229
Martha and Steno.
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>>136298229
Emiya. I didn't like him in FSN, I didn't like him in Ataraxia, I didn't like him in Extra, I'm positive I won't like him in CCC.
He was good in CP but that's it.
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>>136298280
Oh and Stheno as well. Fucking bitch ruined my roll for something good I could have gotten
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>>136297556
Ask datamine anon or someone to extract it.

http://www.fate-sn.com/goa/
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>>136298348
Also Martha, forgot about her. I have no use for her as a Rider because I have Drake and MaryAnne and Medea Lily does healing and debuff remover better, much better.
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>>136298625
Should be able to get it by using element inspect, on mobile ATM so I can't but thanks
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>>136298625
>right-click
>View background image
That was hard
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>>136298790
Eh.
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>>136298860
>Inspect
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>>136298860
So much for not using Firefox
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>>136298229
Siegfried, I guess?
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>>136298917
Beautiful. Time to make an APK icon for this
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>>136298917
Saved. Thanks.
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>>136298229
Gilgamesh and Mordred for stopping me from getting Dantes twice in a row.
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>>136298229
Attila, bitch stole my Brynhildr.
Also Halloween Liz, can't stand Liz in general.
Marie has sat unused and unleveled ever since I got Medusa, but I don't dislike her.
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>>136295591
> is the most broken servant on original Apocrypha roster
> gets 2* treatment in GO, has several skills removed
> might as well be a Saber now
> is in no way useful against dragons, actually is specifically useless against AoE enemies
> still presents one of the tools to break the game with to the point where they won't give him an upgrade

> gets blown in Orleans, meaning he won't appear in main story again
> is never used in Events, because Dango had people complain that fighting triple stacks of Guardian Knight sucks

d-don't worry George, y-you still have one fan in me right here
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Whose ready for Arjuna?
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>>136299672
>gets blown in Orleans, meaning he won't appear in main story again
Just like evil cat.
Oh, wait.
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>>136298229
Beowulf. I wanted Brynhildr
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>>136298229
Saber lily, but i can't burn her because my only other saber is Gilles
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>>136299672
>tfw George with Bayard never

Also they used his old as fuck art in-game instead of making new one.
Fuck this lazy-ass faggots.
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>>136298229
Fion.

I have maxed Cu too, and Lancarturia. Everytime I come across that smug face in the not-ascended bracket I get the urge to burn him.

At least Stheno's interlude gives quartz.
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>>136298229
My sixth copy of saber lily that I payed 7 bucks for
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>>136300126
>not burning the extra Lily

For what purpose
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>>136299672
Why is he considered broken again. Could someone fill me in with the details?
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>>136300180
I ask myself that question every day
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>>136300191
>is god-tier against dragons
>one of his NPs gives everything the dragon trait
Basically he'd get a free boost to damage against everything.
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>>136300256
Same here
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>>136300376
Same. Madness
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>>136300126
>he bought a Lily code
>spending money instead of pre-ordering or participating in the code wars
kek

I fed my extra Lily to Saber Alter. It was a great success.
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>>136300191
Full Power George, because he has a cloak that lets him turn whatever he hits with it into a dragon, and then has also a sword that can shoot anti-dragon beams. Also Instinct, which is offensively supposed to be the really good skill. Also he has a horse that makes him invulnerable to any one attack in a fight. Also has two skills that raise his defensive power further, especially when he is protecting someone.

GO George, because Guardian Knight at level 10 gives +40% def for three turns and taunts, and has a cooldown of 5 turns, which is stupid good. If you really invest into him, he's as good as D'Eon - not as a tank, overall.
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>just scammed some retard on Reddit for $160
Literally stole pictures of an account from eBay and some guy sent me money first, didn't give him shit. Can't even report my paypal because he sent via friends and family.


God I love idiots.
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>>136300662
Damn son
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>>136300662
I'll take things that never happened for $400
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>>136300662
Ikr.250$ total here, three times.
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>>136300662
Good job

As an approved middleman on the subreddit, I'm still waiting for that one day some faggot with like 20 5* sends me his info just so I can steal it from him
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>>136300662
I thought they had some service like a middleman to prevent that. Did the guy forget about that or was he too of a retard
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>>136300860
Retarded
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>>136300191
Free boost against everything,originally have a laser-shooting NP which deal massive damage to dragon-being(literally anyone).

His horse,Bayard can negate attack,
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>>136300860
>>136300838
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>>136300191
Essentially he's absurdly, ungodly tanky. That's his main claim to fame, and also why they wrote him out, because that kind of powerset can't really do anything for a narrative except job to show how strong some other guy is.
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>>136298229

Marie. She spooked me while rolling for Drake during the Valentine's gacha. I resent her greatly
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>>136298229
Siegfried. I have Mordred and Attila to carry the day for Saber purposes. He's just sitting there at level 1.
I like his legend, but as a unit, he is not worthy of my time.
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Hey guys! Nice day, right? Good community. I wonder if there are Lancelot fans here.
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>>136300191
His sheet is total min-max with all those defensive skills and dragon turning and dragon slaying NP.
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>>136300939
I thought they crossed him out because he contradicted with Jannu,since being saint and all he is also qualified as a Ruler.
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>>136301183
They don't want a third saint interfere in saint vs saint/Jeanne vs Amakusa battle.
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>>136300345
>>136300516
>>136300923
>>136300939
>>136301084

Do you think we'll ever get to see him shine even more if they release a 4* or 5* version at a different class such as Ruler?
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>>136301183
I bet they wrote out Dave for similar reasons.

That, and he doesn't really fit with any of the Masters, IMO.
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>>136301348
Hypothetically yes, but that won't ever happen. We would be lucky to see him in an event again apart from another Dragonslayer party.
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>>136298229
Arturia for spooking me while I burned everything during Honnouji looking for Okita.

>>136301020
I feel you
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>>136301348
He's already shining.

Jerusalem beter give him an interlude that gives him a slayer bonus after Ascalon finishes dealing damage.
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>>136300813
https://www.reddit.com/r/GOtrades/comments/4bo914/offer_endgame_account_okita_jack_karna_drake/

Here is my listing

You'd be surprised how retarded people there are
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>>136301464
>tfw got arturia, siegfried and okita in same ten roll
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>>136301508
They are called leddit for a reason. Most of the people there are the defence force for DW's maximum jewing
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Almost time to CM! Hype friends
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500k - 1mil HP for America bosses or I'm done with this game
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>>136301508
>.>
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>>136301730
>CM is amazing
>realize you still can't make America great again
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>>136301896
Who cares about America
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>>136301776
Proof we have Reddit lurking in here
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>>136301958
Make germany great again. Like Arondight
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>>136301958
Euroshit living in irrelevant subterranean shithole detected
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>>136302068
>implying I'm a yuropoor
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>>136302001
>>136301730
>>136301064
Fuck off
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>>136301348
Low chance.
They even use his recycled art to show how much of a faggot they are.

Still I am hoping that will happen
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>>136302068
>Americuck
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>>136302209
Reminder that if he had tits George would be at least 4*.
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>>136302128
>>136302413
>2016
>still living on the earth

Get fucked earthcucks
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>>136302649
>2011 + 5
>still existing in this universe
Get eternally cucked you third dimensional faggot
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>>136302625
>George
>Tits

I would be pissed if they were ever to do that. He's already fine as a male servant. Just give him higher stats and he will be godlike
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why doesn't robin hood have a third skill already
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Why do people like Tamamo except for T&A? She's one of history's greatest individual mass murderers and an all-around terrible person.
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>>136302843
Fuck off
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>>136302843
Rip Diarmuid Shinji
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>>136302134
Why so rude, friend
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>>136302779
He's already a good nuke. No need to buff him even more
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>>136302843
>ripping off capeshit
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>>136302843
Stop posting this pedobait Shirouwank fanfic already.
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>>136302779
that's actually the same reason why George doesn't have an upgrade interlude

Robin is fucking busted, they are scared of him.
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>>136302843
Why is Deermund wearing old Chinese glasses?
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>>136302843
>Boogeyman.jpg
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>>136302779
He already have it

It called Eternal Bug A++
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>>136302843
LZO shirou Demi servant when
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>>136302970
But that's not HF manga.
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>>136303393
Not for lack of trying.
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>>136302649
Fuck off Zeek
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Why are Julius and Caligula made out to be some oddly wholesome family men? They were both douchebags. Same with Romulus, and that guy murdered his own brother.
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>>136303969
They exist to prop up Nero, so they can't be bad people.
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48 minutes until CM. Hype friends!
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What servants do you think should get a second NP with grail ascension? We know it won't happen, but it's fun to wonder.
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>>136303969
>Caligula made out to be some oddly wholesome family men?
Isn't the whole reason he likes Nero is because he fucked her mother that looks exactly the same(at least he said they did in his My Room line)?
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>>136304220
Lots.
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>>136304220
>It's fun to wonder
It's not, fuck off
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>>136304220
I would like to see Jannu become 5* Arash. There's poetic justice in a Christian Saint becoming a suicide bomber.
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80 AP farming when?
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>>136304340
We haven't even got 70 yet
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>>136304220
Evil cat
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>>136304220
Siegfried's Armor of Fafnir.
Cu's thrown Gae Bolg.
Heracles's God Hand.
Nusery Rhyme's Jabberwocky.
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>>136284603
But anon we already have one
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>>136302963
How's that a ripoff? Shinji tried to ambush Shirou, not to outrun him.
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>>136303969
I don't know, Caesar was pretty bro to his legions.
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Why are the Fate girls so tall?
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>>136304813
Because tall girls are justice
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Is Arjuna later today?
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>>136304308
You're the only one not enjoying it. Don't be a sour apple.
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>>136304813
The only one I can think about right now is Meltlilith.
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>>136304813
>Fate girls
>tall
There's two, one of which is a giant and the other wears stilts.
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>>136304813
So betas will get cuck by the taller alphas
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Nobu a CUTE.
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>>136304901
half an hour
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So, I was thinking of doing a Buster team that is not just three Berserkers, please post the chart.
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When is the CV cumming?
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>>136305382
Have you tried thinking for yourself
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Can we expect a new Servant in the CM? i.e. not Mashu, Billy, Nightingale or CUHRAYZEE indians
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>>136305432
Thinking is way too hard.
I have a lot of Servants that could be in a Buster team but I can't decide.
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>>136305461
I'm 90% sure that at least one of the remaining Apoc or Fragments servants will make an appearance. I hope it's Chiron.
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>tfw no fergus

my irish team is suffering
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>>136305515
Bryn, Tesla and Amakusa are a fairly good combo.
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why is this allowed
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>>136305427
26 minutes
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>>136305653
DESIGNATED
5*
GACHA
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>>136305653
EX luck is something some people are just born with
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>>136305653
This reminds me of that nip who rolled 4 Karnas in a single 10 roll. I wish I saved it.
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>>136305653
Is this really not photoshopped?
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>>136305382
It's in the pastebin
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>>136305653
The power of whale
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>>136305765
>Siegfried
>Buster Damage
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>>136305749
Nope. It's real. You can identify it very easily if its fake.
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>>136305890
*against dragons
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>>136304813
They aren't, honestly. The tallest ones just reach the male average height instead of female.
Meanwhile the guy Servants seem to hit stupid high numbers without even trying. Looking at you, Teach.
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>>136305653
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>>136305765
How does Saber Shiki acts as a support again?
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>>136305890
Stheno is the only one that gets bullied for this table.
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>>136305982
Even that isn't true, he is outdamaged by Nero, Alter and on a one turn basis Lily against dragons. He really is useless.
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>>136305382
Post what you have.
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>>136305989
why would the most famous pirate in history be a manlet?
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>>136305890
Unfortunately, there's no meme category.
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>>136306047
Her NP remove debuff.
I often use it to clear Jannu/Fran stun
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>>136306047
"support" is another way to say trash
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>>136306047
removes debuffs
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>>136306080
>Lily
>more damage

Just pit Siegfried against Lalter or Fafnir.
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>>136306104
Generally worldwide average heights have been going up with time because people eat better (and work less). Pirates weren't exactly known for their healthy diet (scurvy and all that)
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>>136306085
Golds that would fit in a Buster Team?
5*
>Mordred
>Tesla
>Karna
>Altera
4*
>Nobunaga, Lily and Salter, the welfare Servants
>Lalter got her while rolling for Tesla
>Beowulf
>Jetman I didn't even want him
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>>136306335
Explain Napoleon then.
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>>136306367
Make a meme crit team. Lalter and Nobu + one good star generator handles anything in this game
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Is it possible to summon someone from IH as a servant?
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>>136306128
Waver confirmed trash then. :^)
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>>136306335
Explain nips then.
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>>136305515
Consider Shakespeare.

And if you're on a budget, also Leonidas, Arash, Ko-Gil, Hector, Blackbeard, Jekyll, Babbage, Romulus, and especially Fergus.
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>>136306272
>on a one turn basis
Between her mana burst and her higher base damage, Siegfried needs to overcharge his NP to beat her in a one turn deal, and when you combine that with him not getting free NP upgrades and his boost up skill only effectively lasting for one chain anyway, Lily beats him.

Any gold Saber but Chev would be better against dragon lancers, with Siegfried only beating out Lily in extended battles. Siegfried is considered trash for a reason.
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>>136306518
It would be better put Andersen there with 2030 or the free new years CE and Saber outfit
Quicks will just ruin the deck
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>tfw when still couldn't get L O/Z after having five Kaleidoscope

Not that I am complaining but, why is it so hard to roll that fucker
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What is the draw of this "game"? Do you hate yourselves? Why is Souji Okita a girl? Why is she locked to an event? Should I preorder her second fig?
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>>136306532
Probably. Everyone in there was a heroic spirit.
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>>136306448
Was not nearly as short as the brits would have you believe. He was around the average height of the time.

>>136306540
You mean those guys who mostly live on fish, rice, and instant noodles?
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>>136306658
>Maxed IA, 2LO/Z, 4 Kaleido
>0 Formalcraft
JUST
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Not even fucking mad, I wanted to roll him back when I didn't know he was shit because I learned about his legend when I was but a shota. I even live in the area where it takes place
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>>136306712
>Okita
>>>/reddit/
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>>136306542
I have the silver one as well, but the entire Quick section is a mess and it hasn't been updated for Kogil
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>>136306712
Waifus, yes, waifus, shekels, yes
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>>136306540
Low protein diets with a side of depression.
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>>136306645
>Quick ruin the deck
>Putting a 3 Arts servant

I use Jack+Salter+Nobu and they work just fine.
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>>136306658
I've gotten LOZ, but no Kaleido. I really wish I had one. Or a 2030.
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>>136306546
Who the fuck tought that 8181 Atk was a good idea with only a x1 damage multiplier
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>>136306765
I feel your pain man but its the other way round. One Formalcraft, Two I/A but zero Kaleidoscope. Sakura 4* CE just ain't enough.
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>>136306767
Sometime I wished I'd roll him instead of Shiteno.
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>>136306765
>maxed Formalcraft, 1 IA, 1 LO/Z
>no Kaleidoscopes
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>multiple LOZ, Formalcraft, IA, Kaleido, various other 5* CEs
>No 5* Servants
This is true hell.
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CM stream link when
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>First summon
>Caesar

Kill me.
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>>136306773
>that Stheno in the quick roster
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>>136307136
>What is rerolling guys?
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>only need 3 more paper
>this happens

Well then.
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>>136307136
>not Gilles or Boudica

Your suffering isn't enough son
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>>136306773
>Stheno in the 3* chart

This is pure gold. Thanks for making my day, anon
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>tfw I had a nightmare about doing a 10 roll and getting NP4 Stheno

Fuck me.
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>>136307136
You got one of the better 3*, whatcha complaining about
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>rolled 2 Formalcraft, 2 Limited/Over Zero, 2 Kaleidoscope, 1 Imaginary Around extremely quickly in my F/GO career (before I fully understood anything or had a single servant ascended)
>equally early on, fed the Imaginary Around to another CE because I don't have any Quick servants
>no regrets because I still don't have any Quick servants
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>>136307303
>Tfw I have a NP4 Stheno
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>>136307136
Caesar has some decent skills compare to most of the 3* starter. He is like an Okita lite
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It's midnight in Nipland. What's Sanson's skill upgrade?
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>>136307136
Caesar
>decently strong
>S curve means he hits his stride without a whole lot of investment
>single target NP often more useful than AoE for everything except EXP hands
>excellent skills to help a stronger servant down the line
>Saber, only weakness is actually pretty uncommon

You got one of the best springboard servants you could ask for.
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>Roll arts servants
>with buster CEs
Just A single formalcraft, sir. Just to see me through the winter months.

Also https://twitter.com/kuiuji_tuki/status/713011408271618048
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>>136307136
Caesar is far more relevant than you think.
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>>136307530
Unless you have shortage of pages for his third ascension. Fucker thinks he can get hold of that when I have other servants who desperately needs it.
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Mother Harlot when?
I want my lewd empressu.
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Can three berserkers achieve anything outside of EXP dailies?
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>>136306712
I like RPGs
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Nightingale looks so good
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>>136307426
Are you one of the few that choose her as free 4*?
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>>136307136
Caesar's actually good. His only negative is that he's fat.
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>>136307671
Depending on which Berserkers they are, they can beat every mission in the game. As long as the enemy doesn't crit every hit.
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