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>Tips and guides
Blog: tf2.com
Wiki: wiki.tf
Class guides: pastebin.com/u/TheOperator
FAQ: pastebin.com/RRENUArS
Mods: pastebin.com/bzzUK5tz
Steam status: steamstat.us steamgaug.es
Preview Loadout: whatsnext.loadout.tf | steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/158547475
HUDs: huds.tf
Game Traffic: steamcharts.com/app/440#1y

>Trading
Sites: trade.tf | bazaar.tf | backpack.tf | tf2outpost.com
BP check: backpack.tf
Prices: trade.tf | backpack.tf
Scrapbanking: scrapbank.me | scrapwh.com | scrap.tf
Betting: saloon.tf

>Competitive
Basics: playcomp.tf
Comp Wiki: comp.tf
Lobbies: tf2center.com/lobbies
Scripting: pastebin.com/1VmngMfJ | pastebin.com/H3WfKLaB
TF2 streams: teamfortress.tv
UGC (Global): ugcleague.com
ESEA (NA/EU): play.esea.net
ETF2L (EU): etf2l.org
AusFortress (AUS): ozfortress.com
AsiaFortress (Asia): asiafortress.com
FBTF (Brazil): teamfortress.com.br/forum/

>IRC
irc://irc.rizon.net/tf2g
pastebin.com/9S37Kk0W

>Discord
https://discord.gg/0rDL3AnqnrKNRXhF

List of people looking to queue up together for matchmaking:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15-e-Sut2sj954Cjm8aGzXMaN4dSSop7xgiyp9DCdOK8/htmlview
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I live for my tf2gfu!
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Ded geam
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Potis
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This general is mostly queers so post your husband.
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http://bazaar.tf/trade/1106681
http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/520609

http://pastebin.com/pY7FydMR
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>>136034750
I'm straight and like girls
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>>136034750
Marie is not a man

>>136034795
image related
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>no sexy fempyro to start the thread
wtf OP I needed that
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>>136034810
I like that idea of heal rate being increased relative to proximity to the heal target, but I really don't like the idea of keeping the beam active while other weapons are out. Maybe if it was a new Medigun.
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>>136030429
S18 is about over what would you like to see banned in s19 ?
>> scorch shot
>> phloh
>> back burner
>> booties/bootleg
>> Tomishit
>> iron bomber
>> all demo melee except stock
>> all demo shields
>> Scottish resistance
>> conch
>> dead ringer
>> gunboats
>> nerf sticks
>> black box
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>>136035150
who cares just ban everything that isn't stock and ubersaw
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I knocked out a toxic player in playoffs. :3
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so the natascha is actually a good counter for demoman in 6s. Because GRU isn't banned on valve matchmaking, you can flank pretty fast and catch some demoes out. The damage they do is usually not enough to kill you, and you can then harass the enemy with your slowing bullets.

I see counters to heavy as mad milk and jarate. Usually a natascha heavy pub stomps in matchmaking, but because it's so broken, other unlocks are seeing play, like the direct hit.
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>>136035265
>toxic
>>>/reddit/
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>>136034795
UM
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>>136035325
>actually using natascha

just fucking kill him with the stock like seriously

if you need the slowdown to land all your shots you need to learn how to track
and if you need the resistance to live, you need to learn how to strafe and not run into shit that's going to cost you more than half your health
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>>136035325
Really? When I play 6s as heavy the demo makes me go kablooie in seconds, I don't think increasing the time it takes to kill him would help with that.
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http://bazaar.tf/profiles/76561197996718813
2 rec off combat slacks
1 rec off nabler
2 rec off dictator
1 rec off face full of testive`
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>>136035510
stock doesn't do enough damage to kill people. Anyone smart knows to not get close anyway, the natascha slow benefits your whole team, as well as punish people for being out of position.

>if you need the slowdown to land all your shots you need to learn how to track

it's about catching people out who would normally be safe

>and if you need the resistance to live, you need to learn how to strafe and not run into shit that's going to cost you more than half your health

you're implying that a revved up heavy can actually dodge mid range rockets. good joke. There's a reason why natascha is banned, it's because it's ridiculously OP
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>>136035775
fuck off moody
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>>136034795
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>>136035704
forgot to add: a fully buffed heavy with the natascha has effectively 562 health. Also, because the medigun heals full health, it heals 25% faster when healing a natascha heavy.

So you have a 562 health class with a 25% faster heal rate that slows people down and catches them out of position.

But go ahead, keep telling the pros that they're all noobs that just cant deal with the natascha
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>>136035863
I'm someone else
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>>136035704
except if you know how to track you can kill those people or force them out anyway

at midrange the soldier has to either
A) shoot directs that you can easily dodge
B)shoot the floor and get maybe 50 damage per rocket splash
while at the same time you are turning him into swiss cheese with almost 500 DPS

natascha isnt OP, its the definition of a crutch

makes a bad heavy able to aim while making a good heavy unable to react to incoming threats and having cripplingly low DPS

Stop running into heavies, alright scout main?
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>>136036030
sure
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i used to be angry at this avatarfag but i realized i will always be better at the game than him
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>>136036009
I'll share
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I fucking hate the fucking recent players list, it never has the fuckign person i want to fcuking add. FUck HEgSEH"L at least I can stab myself more
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>>136036209
hope your mouse isn't actually wireless if you seriously play heavy
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>>136034795
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>>136036424
ur husbando got rotated IDIOT
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>>136036373
Whats so good about a wire
like you get maybe a millisecond better reaction time
It's like saying 60 fps is better than 59 fps and anyone with 59 fps shouldn't even bother

sure wired mouses are better but they just die after like a year or whatever but ive had this wireless fuck so long the labels have worn off and ive only changed the batteries twice
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>>136036292
Try waiting a couple of minutes, then refreshing it. You do mean the "recently played with" tab on your friends list, right?
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>>136036292
thats never worked for me, just wait and refresh it every bit
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>>136034795
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>>136036643
i've never had a good wireless mouse and never have heard a good story about them so maybe you got some good shit
generally for a good wireless mouse you can get a really nice mouse that's a lot better build

fps can be 60 or 30 and be okay as long as they are locked without any drops
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>>136036994
well its a logitech, they make good shit
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nothing can save me from this depression
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what if instead of avatarfagging you put on a trip code
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what if instead of a trip code you kill yourself
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>>136037178
but there are people who know how to use filters
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>>136034795
Does using such a cheap mouse legitimately make me worse at the game or is that just a meme?
my original waifu ended up being a trap so I had to change
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fuck you
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>>136034795
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>>136037375
delete it
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>tfw nearly 600 hours in tf2 and haven't got a cosmetic drop yet
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>>136037359
it depends on the mouse
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>>136037242
there are also filters you can set for images but I'm not autistic enough to care, so I don't mind your avatarfaggotry
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>>136037359
was it vivian

also as long as you get good DPI and all that fancy shit it really doesn't matter that much, having more side buttons for push to talk or whatever helps though
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>>136037359
Whatevs, Vivian is still a cutie.
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>>136037487
It's an m100, dpi is apparently 1000. Is that decent? I also don't play with a mousepad.

>>136037528
yeah

>>136037359
>tfw realizing I posted a mouse twice
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>>136036661
that tab is a piece of shit it shows like 4 people from a server you were in 2 hours ago
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>>136034795
>>136034795
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>>136037686
It always works fine for me.
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>>136037686
>>136036770
>>136036661
>>136036292
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>>136037839
his pyro was cute, we did dum things on turbine i felt not lonely for a bit
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>>136037903
never fucking reply to me again unless you're contributing to the thread
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>>136034795
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>>136038064
>not even a TF2 weapon
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>>136038064
alternatively
>>136038180
who cares about tf2 L:OL
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What's he typing? The suspense is killing me.
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Using the shotgun as Pyro and the Sniper's SMG is incredible

No one expects you to pull out the ol' 1-2-Dead when you're playing Pyro so no one seems to know how to react and the SMG is just devastating if you can land your shots

It seems to make a good bit of players panic when you can consistently hit them with your SMG, I guess because they notice their health just draining non-stop

God I love stock, sometimes
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>>136038501
He does it to screw with us
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>>136038518
The shotgun is one of the best weapons in the game. I really don't find myself using the SMG that much, usually when I'm in a situation where another weapon is required I pulled out my melee, though it is funny when they run out of melee range and you just SMG them down because they assume you don't have a secondary.
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>>136038590
Why would anyone be so cruel?
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>>136038720
It really is amazing how underestimated the shotgun is

People tend to rush Engi's a lot and it's always so easy to just pop 2-3 meatshots into them and watch the chat light up with anger
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I suck at aiming, right now I constrain my mouse to about a 8 inch square and use relatively high sensitivity. Would lowering it and giving my mouse more space help?

I already have acceleration and stuff disabled.
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>>136038501
>tfw no one ever has or ever will post anything relating to you.
:,(
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>>136037467
Before hat drops ended (and then started back up), I went for a little more than a year inbetween hat drops. And I exhausted every single item drop in that time span.
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>>136038906
Practice helps.
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>>136038906
yeah probably
can you draw a circle better faster or slower
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>>136038906
make sure raw input is on

moving your mouse halfway across your space should do a 180 turn ingame, adjust your sensitivity so you can do that
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>>136038870
He's testing us
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>>136038501
>>136039060
i'm not typing anything to anyone right now, it must be a bug
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Step 1: Imagine the screen is your head
Step 2: Tell yourself to 'look' at the enemy with your head
Step 3: Realize that aiming at people is as easy as looking at things in real life is

>>136038906
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>>136038590
oh i didnt reply to this one but i'm not doing it to screw with anyone its probably a bug
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how do I get someone into tf2, or should I wait for overwatch. I think the second would be better.
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>>136039706
Ask him if he'd be interested in playing a game or two with you.
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*wakes up*
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>>136039706
What do you want to play, TF2 or Overwatch? Pick one and play it with them.
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>>136034795
I got a new mouse. but I don't feel like changing it.
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>>136039790
ok, I might
>>136039871
I want to play TF2, but I dont want to introduce them to the cancerous communty with money grabbing devs. I mean maybe we can just play MvM together, I mean he does like coop games more then pvp.
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>>136040193
Well, Overwatch isn't TF2. Play TF2 if you wanna play TF2.
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>>136040267
I will still play it, im just considering if I should introduce him to it.
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>>136040514
Well play two games then. Maybe show him Overwatch, cus it's newer and easier.
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Late night Tf2 seems to be full of idiots.
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>>136040642
yeah, I havent played it yet, so we will be on the same page.
>>136040662
the thread or pubs?
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Tf2 seems to be full of idiots.
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am i an idiot
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>>136040662
I get the worst teams when I'm trying to play at like 3 AM. It's all Russians, Nips, and fucking BRs, usually on my team. The other team is almost always that one Silver soldier main with his personal kritz medic.
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julius.miquel2007 has joined the thread
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Literally WHO
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>>136040987
julius.miquel2007
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>Medic mains

http://steamcommunity.com/id/ChitinWantsYourSoul
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>me

https://steamcommunity.com/id/epicgirl1998
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I bought a couple keys a week ago to turn to refined, so I can buy dumb junk, and now the price has plummeted. Fuck me, I guess.
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>me

https://steamcommunity.com/id/mrcatbutts/

pardon my retarded comments

>>136041338
same :(
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>>136041338
Mine are tradeable in like an hour too. Fucking undercutters, I get the feeling that they're just fucking with key prices at whim at this point.
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>me
http://steamcommunity.com/id/690061/

waifufaggotory intensifies
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>>136041765
blocked
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>>136040757
Pubs, I've top scored the last 3 maps I've been on.
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>>136042116
>MFW I got a 20+ killstreak as sniper
>MFW I have less than ten hours on the class
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>>136042305
its like soldier but the floor is a lot smaller and moves
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>50 total kills as sniper
>Only 20 headshots
Voice(me): Help!
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I didn't win the unusual raffle on tf2r
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>>136041765
i am also blocking you
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>>136041765
It's okay, avatarfag heavy guy, I won't block you.
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>>136043204
i thought squid faggot was a different guy
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>>136043204
I dont really care if ya block me for having a waifu

I do like heavy tho
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>>136043291
Nope, though Dots likes squids too.
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>>136043365
oh
well the reddit face emoji on his profile explains a lot, actually
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>>136043398
what reddit face?
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>>136043783
Lenny in his profile, right there under his name.
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>>136043849
>mfw he wrote reddit face emoji next to it after you got mad about it

fucking kek man
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>>136044053
you're this guy >>136041765

it's very transparent that's you samefagging laughing at a thing you did while implying people who think you're a reddit faggot are mad
it's a laughable effort, my review is that its a 1/10
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>>136044169
here's 1 (You) feel free to spend it at any licensed (You) store
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he ran out of responses so he goes "lol a you for you!"
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I want to make friends here but I am too shy to post my id or add anyone
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>>136044253
a complete non-sequitur reply implying i'm only after replies, another low effort attempt at trolling
i'm not surprised at this from a reddit poster, but it's frankly quite disappointing that someone would make a post like this in sincerity
yet another 1/10
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>>136044362
I'll add you, anon, post id.
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>>136044392
>People actually arguing over a fucking lenny face

jeez kids
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>Being baited by Barkley
Come on, man. You can do better than this.
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>>136044502
another low effort post, this time one subtly implying that the people posting are children, and that you aren't here defending your own reddit emoji while pretending to be a third party

it's depressing that the state of tf2g in modern day is posters like this, but overall it's preferable to literal gay circlejerking and furry erp

2/10
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lmao just tell me how our reddit browsing avatarfagging 8th tier friend here has over SIX THOUSAND hours in the Team Fortress 2 Shooting Game and can only play iron heavy i would have definitely gone to my local bar and requested a shot glass of antifreeze by now
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human please join the irc
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>>136044441
I'm too shy and afraid, maybe one day
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tfw no one ever reviews my shitposts
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>>136044614
Am I like not allowed to use the lenny face or something

why are you THIS mad about it

>>136044623
i like heavy
i dont like reddit
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why did this redditor reply to me
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Why does no one love me
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>>136044821
i dont even have a reddit where did this meme come from
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>this autistic brony redditor 6000 hour only-plays-in-iron heavy main fucking abomination of a person logged out of his reddit account and took a screenshot just to reply to me
end yourself my man and dont reply to me again
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>>136045043
I don't even have words for this anymore

as the memers say, enjoy the (You)
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>>136045043
holy fucking roast
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why is he still replying to me
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>>136045154
replies to you
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>I wonder how /tf2g/ is doing
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>>136044763
you're a freaking embarassment
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>>136045253
>implying VG wasnt a mistake
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(me)
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>>136045340
*adjusts glasses* heh.........as the memers say, enjoy the (You)
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>>136045282
>reaction image

>>136045370
gave me a chuckle, thanks
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enjoy THIS
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>>136045410
Get a stealthy scarf already, you chucklefuck.
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i am enjoying this ice cream
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>>136045296
I would say to delete /vg/, but at this point the cancer has intensified to the point where deleting /vg/ would cause it to spill over into the other boards and threads, and in the end, they'll be begging Hiroshima to save them.
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>>136045410
stop posting any time
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>>136045486
>Taking the video game discussion out of /v/ instead of just stepping the moderation game up
Forever and always moot's biggest mistake, though to be fair, the site was already on a steady downward slope, it just intensified after the split.
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>>136045495
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>>136045565
I'm more surprised that he did it three times, /vp/, /vg/, and /vr/.
You'd think he would've learned that it only takes discussion away from /v/.
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>>136045043
im gonna frame this and put it on my wall

>>136045707
/v/ is just shitposting at this point
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literally every board is shitposting except like, /po/
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>>136045739
I want the /v/lebbitors to leave, and that includes you
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>>136034795
im late
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>>136045739
>/v/ is just shitposting at this point
Believe me, I am well aware of that fact.
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>>136045707
I guess at the time he figured /v/ was a lost cause. I remember we'd been asking for mods for the longest time, and when the moderators actually stepped in, there was this huge backlash against it, so he said fuck it, let the board rot. That's when everyone who actually wanted to discuss video games moved to /vg/.

>>136045782
>TFW even /an/ has its share of shitposters
I just want to talk about how cute and cuddly cats are without some autist bragging about how he shoots outdoor cats.
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>>136045282
>>136045410
>>136045495
>>136045639
>>136045805
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>>136045831
board culture was a mistake
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>4chan group
>"femme pyro central"
>living for equestria
>freddy fazbear pizzaria
>more fnaf groups
>more pony gorups
>The Furfaggy Furfags
>even more pony
>shrek group
>Undertale General (/UTG/)

how do we get this reddit furry brony squid guy to fuck off, lads
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>>136046065
>/utg/
why is that still a thing
why
snowshoe was also part of it, pass it on
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>>136045919
>MFW people still use "m-muh culture" as an excuse to shitpost
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>>136046065
Shit i still need to clean my groups out im just too lazy to remove them one by one

a lot of those a run by people i know tho so im just kinda there

out of that list im literally active in none of them. lmao
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>>136046191
>Why is that still a thing
Go ask them yourself
>>136027328
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>>136046287
is that general still alive
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>>136046329
It's faster than This one
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>my team of rank 1's gets matched with all higher ranked players in a 6 queue

?????????
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*shake shake*
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>>136046551
"Matchmaking"
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>>136034795
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As a Spy, can I pretty much only get kills while people are distracted? If so, why isn't the CnD more recommended?

I just really don't understand Spy and I never have, but I'd like to play him at least a little well. It just never goes well for me when I decloak near them and they hear it no matter what watch I use or I decloak too far and their team or themselves see me before I can get to them after I'm visible.

pls explan
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>>136046986
why use the c/d when you can be a retarded and press M2 to not get punished
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people keep saying thet keys have plummeted, but they look like they're at 18 ref to me.
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>>136034795
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*plummets*
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>>136046986
With CnD, you tend to spend a lot of time just standing around waiting for your cloak to refill. It's fun if you have the duck journal or some sort of noisemaker, but not much otherwise. Stock and Dead Ringer outclass it in just about every way.
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>>136047071
Check what people are actually buying for, right now the best you could get is probably 16.66 for keys. They were 19.66 a week ago. The price drop honestly isn't that much, but it'll probably go even lower.
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>>136047508
MINE
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>>136047247
What's causing this?
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>>136047508
>>136047570
>shitven pooniverse fans in my tf2g

*fucking pukes*
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>>136047508
>>136047570
Leave now, cancer
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>>136047834
>poo

what are you twelve
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>>136047834
post camp counselors instead
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>>136047987
Do you like my outback steakhouse man
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>>136034795
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>>136047987
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>>136048159
>>136047834
literal autism
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what's the setting that causes invasion 2fort to crash again
its low models, right
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>>136047987
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>>136047987
I need more Stranges.
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G'night TF2G


remember that /vg/ was a mistake and TF2 is a dead game
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>>136048372
waifu sticks make this game great
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>>136048527
Die in your sleep
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>>136048701
thats rude anon

holy fuck that picture
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*ude
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darwins danger shield nice one
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am i a nice one
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i think you are nice and i like you a lot
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>not owning a beta pass
There's no excuse for you.
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>>136051101
How do I get one? Ive been away for a few days
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>>136051101
You need to beg for one
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>>136051715
either get lucky and get a drop, or have friends who can give you an invite
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>>136034795
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i feel weird
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>>136047987
I enjoyed the puns.
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http://tf2r.com/kvhd3g1.html
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http://tf2r.com/kihvmam.html
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Damn contracts are fun
why didnt anyone tell me?
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Any of you anons wanna help a yuropoor shitter out of fresh meat hell?
/id/flaminta/
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>>136051101
>needing one
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>>136059070
>literally who begging for a pass
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aaaaaaa
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>>136059369
>wanting to be known on an anonymous imageboard
he isnt even begging for a pass. Hes begging for a carry. try reading next time nigger
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>>136060458
fuck my bad
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>>136060515
fuck now you made me feel bad for calling you a nigger

i hate this board some times

sorry man
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>>136060746
>>136060515
ha ha ha you fags gonna kiss and make up? ha ha ha you fags gonna get gay married and adopt a child together? ha ha ha you fags gonna live a long gay life together? ha ha ha
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>>136059070
So many things wrong with this profile don't help this fool
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>>136060947
who said anything about me being a guy
fuck you
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>>136061241
fag
taking pills doesnt make u a girl
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>>136060947
>betafag trying to bully someone on internet
lmao @ ur life
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I'm losing my sanity tf2g I'm slowly losing it. It's coming to an end lads this is it
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me too
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>>136039432
dude what
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maybe like 20% of this thread has actually been tf2 discussion
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Post tf2 videos where you appear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SEdp4TwP4U
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>>136038906
maybe this will help idk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eXHWImVlpk
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>>136038906
Well what's your sensitivity at?
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I'm so tired of Razorback-wearing Unusual Snipers who never fucking miss a shot.

If I ever get ahold of a time machine I'm going back and slapping Robin for even considering putting Sniper in without any sort of meaningful check to his skill ceiling.

That or pushing whoever came up with the Razorback in front of a train.
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is the loadout thing disabled/broken by the mm overlay?

on a fresh pc, didn't see it in thread info / couldn't find it on google
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>>136065385
It's called the Revolver nigger.
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>>136065435
loadout ZOOM thing

seem to have missed that detail
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>cp_orange_x3 | 100% crits | 10x stats | Randomizer | RTD | Low-gravity
Fucking why
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>>136065385
>wanting to put a cap on a skill ceiling
Thats not possible. People can always get better
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>>136065718
That's why the Sniper Rifle needs a cap on its potential. Add inverse damage falloff, require more time for the Sniper to be scoped to be able to score 150 for a headshot, etc.

Quickscoping is a plague and it needs to have a stake driven through its heart.

>>136065475
Counterpoint: gyfcat QuickGorgeousAnura
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>>136065013
twitch tv/ wiffle_sniffler
I'm in a good bit of tf2 streams on there
he regularly plays cactus canyon
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>>136065251
Like 4.37 I think, can't check right now.
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>>136066019
I forgot Cactus Canyon, that map was actually pretty fun. I disliked the removal of stage 2 though.
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>>136034795
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>>136066321
It just needed a bit of tweaking and making a single choke a but wider but no they decided to remove it
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>>136065475
>Just shoot him nigga

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFXyE8SLHww

Hey hey
Ho ho
Razorback has got to go
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>>136066723
Not that guy, but I doubt razorback will be removed. Just give it an unattractive downside.
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>>136066808
UHHNG
THICKER
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>>136065013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA1pmsOGv40
I'm in the chat at some point.
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>tfw the autists who take this game too seriously and are just ungodly good make you consider using cheats just so you don't burst a bloodvessel after they pull off some bullshit Matrix-style shit for the Nth time
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>>136067331
Nah, I know that.

I'd rather have it changed drastically. Remove the backstab protection, so Spy can actually counter Sniper now - but the flipside is that stabbing the Razorback causes the battery on it to explode, dealing 60 damage to the Spy and lighting him on fire.

Also I guess maybe a hidden attribute that prevents any "On Backstab" effects from completing if you do stab a Sniper wearing the Razorback.

>>136065013
I wouldn't even know how to find out.
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