Phalanx Edition
>FAQs & General Info (Updated March 19th, 2016)
http://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN
>/twg/ steam groups (MP battles on weekend, co-op anytime)
http://steamcommunity.com/group/totalwargeneral
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/twgmp
>Attila
TWC Mods -- http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2105-Total-War-Attila-Modifications
Slavic Master Race Culture DLC -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0ICZXBfFwU
>Warhammer
Vampire Counts Reveal -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj605sogy3I
Dwarfen Campaign Walkthrough -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPszpVH0Yyc
Orcs vs. Bretonnians Let's Play -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_AD4gHVrWU
Demised >>135639316
>>135743650
is that Raphia?
Dominate rome > principate/republican rome
nth for Alaric
>>135744008
>try out bactria
>400 food by the end
Ahh... Rome
>No faction has a woman for a political marriage
I swear to God.
Annibal my son
>>135743650
Since the Greenskins are getting a third legendary lord, who are the candidates for the other factions?
>>135744334
come, shit, share my fire
nth for T H E L A D Y
>>135744370
roll
>>135744657
time to make black history real
>>135744481
spare my arse
>>135745358
Roll
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7fwcElPNhw
What's the largest Total War battle you've ever fought or seen fought /twg/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5ihy9aY0UM&index=20&list=PL7l8yJHLU_BHQCVDULG4nz_NmT3usWmC-
>>135745603
https://youtu.be/26hd25OX3_k
This 4v4
>>135745603
That I've ever fought was an 8k vs 8k showdown in Attila. Close second was like a 13k man battle in Shogun 2. Both were fun as fuck.
The shogun fight was spanned across two hills and a forest which was really difficult. I had to pause scum a few time a just to manage my flanks properly.
>>135745952
>pause scum
As someone who doesn't handle well under pressure I do this a lot more than I like to admit but I have no choice
>>135745603
If only the cinematography wasn't utter shit, this video could've been amazing.
>>135746521
yeah way too many closeups but this one was well done
>>135746329
I don't do it often but when I do I kinda just justify it by saying that realistically I'd have sub commanders that could manage their sections individually and strategy would've been discussed before the battle.
>>135746941
>he needs to justify using standard game mechanics
>>135747169
Really. The battles are so fast-paced that not at least using slow-mo from time to time is something I can't comprehend.
Granted, I'm shit, but still.
>>135744469
Volkmar the Grim for the Empire would make sense to have the Emperor, the Supreme Patriarch and the Grand Theogonist.
For Vampire Counts maybe the Red Duke or Abhorashin addition to Blood Knights FLC
Dunno about the Dwarfs though.
>>135745603
it lasted for over an hour and crashed 3 times
The only time I pause is at the start of a battle after deployment. more so in shogun 2 in a siege where they just appear out of nowhere. less so in attila where they're already visible.
But I don't like pausing or slowing down the game.
Big battles of 2 stacks vs 2 stacks can be an absolute charnal house though.
>>135747559
How did you manage to kill 2 thousand of your own men.
>>135747752
Cannons have a mind of their own.
>>135747752
Artillery into melee, probably
>>135747559
>darthmeme
>>135747559
Do you have any screenshots from the battle?
>>135747559
This is probably it for screenshots that i took.
but to be fair the battles for the city over 2 years must have left over 200 000 dead Indians littered around the surrounding fields and there wasn't a single intact segment of wall,
>>135747752
one word my friend: artillery. Some of it was intentional like when I sent one unit into a melee vs 3 units to blob them all up and then rained cannonballs on the whole lot, but most of it was unintentional, you can see the AI lost a lot to friendly fire too
>>135747965
well, the imperial splendor, or whatever it was called is still unfinished, so its not like I had much choice
>>135748159
>>135748256
>not sucking it up and playing vanilla
empire is shit no matter what
If I kill enough of the enemies faction leaders in Attila can I dissolve their country? I know it used to work in M2 (if I remember right)
>>135748632
Eh?
>>135745603
empire lategame factions tend to bunch up their stacks on borders to serve as a sort of border guard against other powerful nations.
>allied as prussia with russia
>focus on eliminating western factions, stop with paris, northern italy and vienna
>turn to the east because I need moscow
>turn camera over to poland
>russians have nine or ten stacks amounting to around 16k men
>bring an army of 3k against one of them
>the others reinforce
>cue an hour of reinforcing and endless waves of russians
>win with 300 men remaining on a hill and a colorful carpet woven in front of me
>>135748780
f I keep killing their faction leaders over and over again in battle. Does it do anything in Attila?
I'm pretty sure I dissolved the Turkish state in M2 crusades this way before. But I could be wrong.
>>135748068
no, unfortunately I dont had to do an hdd wipe and lost all my old screens, but they didnt look that great anyway, the reinforcements were coming from all over the place and after the first stacks were done, there were many small scale fights all over the place and nothing properly organised so there was no carpet to show
>>135748632
i dont think so
>>135748980
Yeah, in M2 a faction could end of wiped out if the entire male-line of the royal family dies out.
Don't think it works in Attila.
Is it worth trying to manage public order in Attila (i.e. invest in buildings etc), or should I just ignore it and slap down the rebellions as they come?
It feels like the malus is too high to mitigate
>>135748632
>>135748780
>>135748980
killing all nobles from a faction would dissolve that faction into rebels in m2, it does not happen in Attila (would make defeating all those one province factions too easy)
>>135744370
rollin pls no krauts
>>135749121
Are you sure? Because I remember getting all my family members killed by inquisitors
>>135749205
Yes, it's worthwhile. After the occupation malus wears off and the province has enough food, a couple of public order buildings is all you really need. You can build up a large public order buffer by garrisoning the settlement for a few turns.
>tfw when you love firing in ranks and gunpowder artillery
>Napoleons europe just feels kinda shallow
>FotS's artillery all feels the same except for wooden cannons and gattling guns
>Empire has perfect artillery and the world to play with but bad mechanics and buginess.
The best part about warhammer total war when it releases will be the variety in the artillery between dwarves and empire. I want to see what a gunline can do. even if i have to do without the different shell types (tfw no canister shot)
>>135749862
wait, I just remembered, there are rules for canister shot in the rulebook.
Canister shot confirmed.
>>135749862
>tfw ETW could have been the greatest TW ever made
I still need to get rid of Imperial Destroyer from my ETW and get Darthmod back. I forget the reasons why I disliked ID so much
well the graphics in the orc battle look like fucking shogun 2 so I guess I'll be able to run it a-ok unless they fuck up the optimization again somehow
>>135750327
I was thinking of trying imperial splendor.
Imperial splendor and darth mod seem to be the two most talked about for empire. dunno about others though.
>>135747539
It'll probably be Ironbrow or Burloksonn
Either bonuses to not!Magic or bonuses to Cannons
>>135750327
>darthmeme
>>135750996
as someone who tried both IS and darthmod, I'd choose darthmod
the battles lagged too much whenever I zoomed in and my PC isn't shit either, and you fight using mostly militias for line infantry for the first 50 turns
the campaign map is better than darthmod's though
>>135751053
Bugman bonuses to Economy and moral.
How many people can you get in a multiplayer campaign?
>>135751571
just two i think?
How does Darthmod improve/fix Empire as opposed to simply changing numbers and adding units?
>>135751834
it doesn't.
Play napoopan with LME instead.
fug, even with a massive cavalry advantage basic levies really struggle against armored professional soldiers
also is it just me or is the AI in AoC better than in the grand campaign, so far the AI has been very reluctant to charge the cavalry general into my infantry in AoC, while it does this all the time in grand campaign
>>135745358
Rolling
Anybody have the Byzantine version?
Unrelated, I am doing a Garamatian campaign, and I can never get my economy in order. Any tips?
Don't forget to play VC at launch guys!
>>135743650
>http://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN
Someone needs to update it,using N to zoom also works on Shogun 2 and Fall of the Samurai
>Hun stacks with 5 heavy onagers
>>135754267
I swear, the "anti-shills" do more shilling than actual shills could ever do.
>>135744628
Assuming they'll choose a Damsel like Morgiana Le Fay as the secondary LL for Brets is there a chance we'll get the Green Knight too?
>>135754221
>>135754990
quiet you.
>>135751970
>play LME
>start as Duchy of Warsaw because why the fuck not
>during first 3 turns, kill Blucher, Kutuzov and Bagration with just my starting stack because AI is as dogshit as in vanilla
>uninstall
>>135754990
>hurr anti-shills is bad such as shills
>>135755086
Thanks, senpai
>>135755362
And you can global conquest medieval 2 in 12 turns. It was always shit anon.
>>135752761
Do you not use artillery often in AoC? I think what causes cavalry charges into your infantry line is the AI attempting to get the artillery. It's extremely prioritized.
If it's far enough behind your line they'll flank logically, but if it's close they may charge.
>>135749812
what about the Instability malus, though? How do I reduce that?
>>135755662
It decreases by 1 point every turn.
>>135755590
how the fuck
>>135755653
I literally have one unit of artillery in all my Shogun 2 armies, don't care if it slows down on the campaign map, The AI will always shit its pants and be the one to attack even when I am attacking.
>>135755662
Time heals all wounds.
It decreases by one every turn. When taking whole regions, don't sack each province
Letting a place rebel can be strategic, since every turn that the rebellion is active, you gain 20 in public order.
>You will never restore the Roman Empire to its former glory.
>>135755830
Legend did in in 14 turns I think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vObLGPSJQU&list=PLY8cZUL4pfEDOm-zQQM0dsLIRCOj8jvP_
>>135755653
>first battle against high-tier Hun stack
>"well, they are charging their cav head-on against my heavy infantry, this should be easy"
>they actually destroy and rout my frontline
>>135756013
>you will never make Rome great again
So is public order always a bitch in Attila? Playing as the franks and I feel like no matter what I do I constantly have to shift armies around my empire so keep public order barely above rebellion.
>>135756013
>Didn't even conquer all of europe for ebin grossromaniums
It was a shit empire t b h.
>>135756035
literally just breaking gameplay mechanics and breaking diplo and shit, this is worse than speedrunner autism who use bugs to finish a game in like 10 min
>>135756285
>implying there was anything of worth left there to conquer
>>135756281
get a better governor, give him bonus happy traits and authority and lower taxes, you can also use a province thing with happiness if your faction got 1
>>135756519
How do you get better governors? I'm still not good at managing my family tree. Do you need to build certain buildings or something?
>>135756285
>His maybe a barbarian
>>135756335
That's because medieval 2 was a buggy mess. Retardedness of AI, is, however, a constant of the series and by abusing the fuck out of it cancer of total war wins all of his legendary campaigns.
You can't claim that Napoleon has some especially retarded AI. On the contrary, many people consider Napoleon's battle AI (campaign AI is still as retarded as ever) to be one of the best in the series, even though that's not saying much.
>>135756281
You have an entire building chain devoted to providing public order. Build something from it you retard.
>>135756186
Heavy cav crushes anything but heavy spears/pikes, or heavy infantry in shield-wall.
Nomad units also have crazy stats.
>>135756665
just let them level up and put points into public order skill
also use edicts
>>135756281
Pro tips: buy priests, level up your governors in Authority, get +PO followers, set your taxes on High.
>>135756665
look at candiates or family members with a good governoring skill as their first, bonus authroity, taxes, more money from buildings then put them in governor slot and they will auto level and every so many turns then give them more authority and bonus happiness talents and give them any items your generals find after battles and shit that helps with it.
>>135756397
>implying those peoples living in northern Europe didn't migrate into the empire and establish the most successful kingdoms ever known and an era of unprecedented prosperity, scientific progress and art.
>>135755830
>>135755986
ooh
thanks anons
Just bought shogun 2.
Im no weeb and hate japs and want to smash them with Western tech.
What faction do I choose?
>>135758098
Otomo in regular Shogun 2 and any imperial clan in Fall of the Samurai
>>135758098
Correction, I bought fall of samurai
>>135758253
Thanks senpai. They didn't make it too clear which was western and which was traditional.
>>135758451
Well, both sides can be western or traditional. The Shogunate was not "traditions only".
>>135758984
Oh okay. I thought it was West vs traditional japs
>>135744008
Rolling for a Hellenic faction
>Assassinate Attila
Wow didn't expect it to be that easy
>Next turn, noble turns up in my recruitment roster called 'Attala'
"N-no, I'm not Attila. I'm...Attala, yeah"
>>135744008
Roll
>>135758451
As Otomo you can literally build an army out of guns and portuguese tercios and slaughter nips by the thousands
Can someone explain how the Zadruga works, exactly?
Taking pic related as example, the yellow circle is the town with a Zadruga. Do all provinces marked with a red X get an increased wealth production from the Zadruga? Furthermore, does the Zadruga also increase the wealth in its own province, and Zadrugas stack with themselves?
>>135760098
Is he even assassinatable? It always shows 0% chance of killing him for me.
>>135755653
nah, I dislike artillery because its too strong, but in this battle I actually did have an onager and the AI still did not charge its cav general in, I am shocked desu
>>135760424
Well I did it. I'm amazed honestly, I expected him to be plot immortal.
>>135757757
but they didnt, the vast majority of the "great" migrators are eastern tribes or germanics, not northern euros
>>135759985
West vs traditional Japs would be Satsuma Rebellion.
>>135760393
forgot pic
>>135759985
technically the Imperials are the ones who want to "expel the barbarians," but the Imperial restoration also directly resulted in Japan's westernization, which caused some of the most prominent Imperial clans in FotS to rebel against the Emperor themselves not long afterwards
the series of events was complex
>>135760681
and they achieved fuck all compared to the Franks , Anglo-Saxons and Lombards who founded the most powerful Kingdoms in Europe who were all northern Europeans.
How do i meet women /twg/?
>>135761994
Your only hope is things like craigslist, but it's usually women with kids looking for a daddy
AI can't into flanking
>>135762669
AI literally cannot into those "Better Maps".
>>135759985
Imperials are anti-foreigner but their factions have a lot of traits that favour modernization. Shogunate is pro-foreigner but their factions traits favour traditionalism.
>>135762669
>>135762669
I noticed they flank alot in Attila tbqh
Even during sieges
>>135762669
As much as I love that mod, the AI can't deal with the new maps.
>>135763174
What mod is it?
>Migrate to Rome through Greece as Ostrogoths.
>Have most of family die fighting off Romans
>Consolidate in Italia.
Where should I go to? Looking to bolster my armies and kick the Roman Seperatists out of Italia too.
>>135763428
>Roma as your capital
>Instead of Ravenna, the true capital for the Ostrogoths
>>135763412
Better Maps
>>135763428
Wrong image, but that's what it was like at start
>>135752761
AI in AoC can fuck your shit up senpai
>>135763174
I think theres another mod in the workshop that adds small towns and buildings outside of the edge of the map instead of inside
So it doesnt effect the AI movements
>>135760393
>>135760847
Yes to all your questions.
>>135761003
I've learned to just never try to understand Asian politics
>'''''holy'''''
>'''''''''''''''''''roman'''''''''''''''''''
>'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''empire'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
>>135744370
Rollan
>>135763525
Why settle for the consolation prize when you can have the real thing though?
>>135764151
They make a lot more sense when you take into account the fact that everyone over there hates each other, and often themselves, with a burning passion unrivaled outside of wales.
>Be Franks
>Marry daughter of the King to the leader of the West Roman Separatists
>Rome was razed by the Huns
>Rebuild it
>This is how the Holy Roman Empire was formed in my canon
>tfw you forget to conquer carthage
>>135762669
>>135763026
Thats what you get for spamming yari cav
>>135764391
Exactly, both cities were disappointingly wide open for attack, so I just went for Rome.
So is there a way to manually change your capital city in Atilla yet
>>135764391
It's always fun to listen to Asians hate on each other. I wish I had those /int/ screenshots of Koreans and Japs shitposting at each other.
>>135764637
I played a game as Takeda once where I had a stack of 20 yari cav for a joke. People say cav is shit in S2 but those motherfuckers routed an entire army of yari samurai spam on the charge, shit was disgusting. Ashigaru in yari wall would've stopped it mind but it was still hilarious.
>>135761994
Get a job where you have to talk to people. Lot of bored girls sat around all day wanting some attention and if you ive it to them you'll be pretty popular.
>>135765096
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=474998322
>>135766676
>all that shit just to change the fucking capital
Jesus
>>135767473
At least changingHOVELSwon't be an issue in Warhammer.
are there any waifu mods for attila?
>>135769664
Sadly no
>>135769456
Memes aside, I do find the difference between mountainside and non-mountainside cities strange. It's obvious that CA are going for a heavily stylised approach where cities take up the same kind of real estate on the campaign map as they did in older titles but it doesn't contrast well with the Dwarf holds that can be lavishly detailed without affecting the playable area because they're inside mountains.
>>135769927
It does kind of work however. I mean the dwarves are an ancient civilization on the decline they already made their holds are products of tens of thousands of years. while humans were barely barbarians not even 2000 years prior.
>>135769927
I think, after looking at the campaign map, there's a lot of really big human cities, but the inner land where human cities are located is actually pretty small (relatively speaking), so putting a big city with a big AoD could really fuck that shit up. A mountain settlement is on a fucking mountain, which was already impassable terrain.
>>135754990
sauce on this moving tapestry sample?
>>135770773
But thinking ahead to Tomb Kings, Elves and Lizardmen, will their ancient cities also be compressed in the old style? It would be odd to have Dwarfs as the exclusive owners of swag-tastic campaign cities because they're built on impassable terrain.
>>135769807
>You will never face-fuck advisor-chan while old man-kun narrates
>>135771831
Why are you making this a meme
>finish reading blood on the Reik
fuck me, thats grimdark.
>>135769807
How about any that make the guys look more interesting than Helmet Man #5?
>>135772130
It's not a meme, it's my honest feelings.
>>135772229
Welcome to 1980s British metalhead fantasy, enjoy your stay.
>>135771792
I'm just wondering how they will do skavenblight as that monstrosity of a city is about 10 times the size of a dwarf hold
>>135764516
AAAAHHHH
REEEEEEEEEE
>>135764516
NO ONE CAN CONQUER THE GREAT
HANNIBAL BAKA
>>135772734
Honestly I think CA is going to have to add an entire underground layer to the map if they want Skaven to work properly. Not like their underground passage system at the moment, I mean a fully-featured subterranean layer that has cities built on it.
It's not really surprising that Skaven are being held back for the sequel when you consider just how wildly different from every other faction they are. Shit's gonna take a lot of work to do right.
>tfw you just watched The Last Samurai and want to play Shogun 2 but it's midnight
>>135773230
>Wake up next day
>Don't want to play anymore
>>135773230
Start a traditional FotS campaign and see if you can win before sunrise.
>>135773387
This, let the light of the burning sun guide you to victory or defeat
>>135773387
>finishing a campaign in anything less than 20+ hours
How?
>>135773647
Shogun campaigns are short
>>135772670
nah, grimdark in a hopelessly soulcrushing way.
I wonder when GW lost the plot.
>>135773195
Didn't hint at something like that with the dwarfs? I could be misremembering though.
>>135773195
They'll work the same as Dwarfs with the underway stance and when you siege their cities it'll be underground. Possibly they'll make it so skaven never have to travel out of the underway so can't be ambushed on land until they surface to attack.
Is anyone making a new LOTR mod for Attila or are they waiting for TWH where it might be easier with the dwarf caves to make Moria and whatnot?
>>135774521
IIRC the underway isn't displayed on the map, is it? How would that work with 100% underground cities?
Any good mods for Shogun 2?
>>135774613
It'd be way easier with WH surely. It's already half there compared to Attila
Thinking of starting a new shogun 2 legendary campaign, what clan is good for just camping an area and building economy?
>>135772445
Why even live?
>>135775080
Triangles
>>135774652
unless they wanna fuck it up hard they won't add skaven til one of the map expansions where they add an Underway map. I feel like only Skaven, Dwarves, Goblins, and Undead will be able to go there normally
>>135775080
Chosokabe desu
>>135775396
For my waifu.
>>135774652
The cities will be visible on the map but when you actually fight the siege you'll be underground. The underway isn't visible but a little tunnel pops up near your general and he moves to it then out the other side that you clicked to.
>>135774674
Better Maps(3 parts)
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=99501976
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=123046263
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=427417469
VUS
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=105951952
Expanded Japan
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=150812711
Recruitable Generals
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=124774475
More Characters
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=639950946
Real Armies
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=215214032
>>135774978
Yeah I agree, plus the unique animations for orcs and other races will be useful
>>135775808
thanks
>>135775424
>>135775567
So Hojo or Chokosabe?
>>135775820
Warhammer Orc animations are useless for LotR Orcs. LotR's are basically humanoid, while WH's have almost comically exaggerated proportions.
>>135744370
rolling
>>135776624
Hojo because Chosokabe is lmao noob tier
>>135743650The men are wavering
>>135776624
ODA
D
A
>>135744370
roll
>>135777095
>Winning battle handily
>General dies by accident
>Entire army instantly routes
I mean guys...we were winning
>>135777095
>>135773470
>Bring victory to the land of the rising sun while the sun rises
>>135773230
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=160675934
>>135744270
Do you guys really find it fun to do completely unplausible things like that? This one is remotely plausible, though.
Not trying to be rude, sorry if it sounds like that, serious question... That's why I hardly play any Greek state besides Sparta (and even then I barely conquer anything outside of Greece and Asia Minor) and Athens (I can be a bit more free with this one). I end up only playing barbarian factions to conquer germanic/western europe and harass Rome trying my best not to enter asia minor, Rome, Carthage, Persian states, the (historically) bigger sucessor kingdoms (not because of difficulty or lack thereof).
It kind of hampers my fun. I cannot deal with ugly borders or impossible overextensions. Too bad the game doesn't give you other options like Paradox games, or even Civ.
post your campaigns
416AD and I'm thinking of trying to take the rest of Aquitania and Narbonesis before Attila pops up but I'm dealing with public order issues and need most of my troops garrisoned.
Should I just say fuck it and take it to the saxons? I kicked them out of Frisia in turn 2 and they hoarded around for a while before finding a new home near the Pyrenees mountains.
>>135778785
Here's mine
I burned everything down and moved to Africa, converted to minor religions.
Once I build at least one shrine in a province I have zero public order worries and I can slowly steamroll my way back across the map and reclaim all my former lands.
Shit's comfy AF yo
Is there a mod that makes Rome 2 not shit and maybe fixes the awful minimalist art bullshit?
>>135779430
>he actually converted to minor religions
The mad man.
>>135779430
>abandoning Roma
Shit campaign. What religion did you convert to though?
>>135779703
All will flee before meand then integrate peacefully when I conquer them
>>135779430
Can you take a screenshot of your religious buildings, and potential religious buildings?
> Tomb Kings still not announced
>>135779682
Attila
>>135780137
This is what you build
It costs 10k, you need to own a gemstone resource, it can only go in towns, and you get no religious edicts and can't recruit priests.
Still, it's great as WRE because of your immigration bonus, and you can deal with the squalor easily .
what the fuck is this meme
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=644990746
>>135780620
I remember when the wealth used to be +666% from immigration.
>>135780620
How do you even get minor religions enough to convert?
>>135780814
There are some regions in North Africa and in the far east with minor religion influence. You pack everything up and go to one of those regions to start converting.
>>135780814
Caucasus and eastern steppes has enough local tradition for it
>>135780796
Yeah, they nerfed it. It's still pretty op as it is now
>>135780814
I just burned everything down right away except for the region where it was high enough fore me to convert, at about turn 3.
>>135779682
I liked the minimalist art.
Alright twg how different is the ERE faction compared to WRE?
Checked most of the Shogun 2 workshop(so many fucking upkeep reduction and income mods) and i think im ready to start a new campaign.
>>135745358
Rolling
>>135744370
rollan
>>135781608
Better cav, more money, generally easier depending on dickishness of Sassykids.
>>135781608
You get to be the best empire as opposed to the inferior, degenerate West.
>>135781608
WRE has based Stilicho
ERE does not
>>135777095
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>mfw Venedian farmville runs are literally easiest way to play the game
Settlements that are unconquerable unless outnumbered atleast 4 to 1, piles of money and food from farms with no downsides, free fertility and the supposed "end game threat" of the huns can simply be bought off.
>>135783746
start game ridiculous tho
Playing S2 for the first time as Otomo, are European cannons good against infantry or only walls like the description says.holy shit nanban trade ships are goat, all these matchlocks and tercos, this is fun as hell
hallo mein negars
I bought Atilla yesterday, love it. Played a bit of the prologue and everything flows so smooth.
A small question, however.
I began a Grand Campaign as the Franks, expanded southward and took the entire province, however my income is still very low and not high enough to repair/convert buildings per turn.
Is there a way to expand without having rebellions every other turn?
Thank you.
>>135783746
>tfw I could never get off the ground
I really want to play as them but I am shit
>>135778785
Trying to finish off the Sassanids puppets so I can send armies to go deal with the huns before Europe is thoroughly fucked.
Also real proud of based puppet Ostrogoths, fucking up Caucasian Lahkmids/Himyar.
>>135779682
Divide Et Impera
>>135783925
That's true, it's pretty much a 50/50 of every germanic neighbour instantly declaring war on you, and if you get real unlucky the nomads gun for you aswell. But the reward is great indeed.
>>135784137
>implying
>>135783958
Cannons are best used against enemy cavalry in field battles. but really their best factor is that they force the enemy to attack you. so while cannons might not be the best unit. its usually worth lugging one around just so that you can play your matchlocks defensively which is where they work the best.
>>135784082
>that Europe
>>135783958
They can really fuck up morale, but if you want series anti-everything, get you some Donderbuss cav.
when should I convert to christianity as the langobards?
>>135784485
Never.
>>135784601
muh god tho
being a barbarian sucks
>>135783746
If you take the Ma'rib dam and convert to Semitic paganism, you could get 3750 gold a turn from a single farm in a 5-fertility region - which is easy to get if you build two Slavic pagan buildings in each province before you convert to Semitic paganism.
I tried it, but after setting up my new capital in Arabia Felix, it just got boring. I'd have to fight the Sassies and I'd have to do it with shitty barbar units.
>>135784679
Get slavshit religion. It's easily the most useful out of the religions available to you in that area of the map.
>>135784041
>public order
Not that big a deal in the long term, immigration can make it a bitch but if you keep one army per province that's large enough to auto-wipe small rebel stacks, it isn't a big deal to wait for conquest penalties to decrease and for your own PO buildings to get built.
>>135784847
>trade barbarian shit religion #1 for barbarian shit religion #2
wew
>>135785929
>not wanting a religion that lets you return fertility to every province
>>135743650
>tfw loved Rome Total war and spent endless hours on it
>want to get back in the series
Should I but Rome 2 or Attila?
>>135786926
Attila
>>135786451
what happens if you emigrate and deploy the slav terraforming generators in egypt?
>>135786926
Rome 2 is about building an empire.
Attila is about surviving through a shit period, in an attempt to build something out of scraps.
Mechanically, Attila is far better.
>>135787219
it's god tier
especially when you combine it with the dam
>>135784825
Wouldn't BIG SLAV SHIELDS be great against the sassies?
In S2 should I take those "This clan who was our ally is now planning to gank the shit out of you daimyo" messages seriously or not
