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fartlanpiss revival when edition
https://discord.gg/0kAYYuEhY9fQDK2r

/wpsg/ guilds:

WOTLK
<You> - Horde, Theatre of Dreams

MoP
<Ulduar Never> - Alliance, wow.freakz.ro


>Where can I get game clients?

http://pastebin.com/mxjmsr3t

>How do I connect to [server]?
1. Register on a private server that hosts the same game client you have.
2. Copy their realmlist URL. This can usually be found on the main page of the website or on their registration page.
3. Look for a realmlist.wtf file in your WoW folder. This may either be in the root folder, or inside Wow/Data/enUS/
4. Open the realmlist.wtf file in a text editor such as Notepad and paste in the realmlist settings of the server. Make sure it starts with 'set realmlist' followed by the realmlist URL.

>I have set the realmlist correctly but it still connects me to XYZ server/says invalid login info.
You will need a clean wow.exe and dll files if you downloaded your WoW client from XYZ server. Check the clients section above.

>How do I stop my client from auto-updating?
• Start the game with wow.exe - not launcher.exe
• Don't use your email for logging in, use your account name.
• Find the patchlist file in your installation and remove it.

Previous Thread: >>135415531
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>>135625332
Nice shitpost OP.
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>>135625527
what's shitpost about it?
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3rd for Poles cannot into PvE content
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Friendly reminder that Dalaran is still the #1 Wrath server for non Polish players.

Check it out now @ www.dalaran-wow.com
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Nost pve is so comfy
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Sad shills general.
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>>135626263
https://github.com/dalaranwow/dalaran-wow/issues/2552
>druid Heart of the wild does not work

https://github.com/dalaranwow/dalaran-wow/issues/1770
>Heigan's Dance is not scripted correctly

https://github.com/dalaranwow/dalaran-wow/issues/1563
OS, tail swipe has a chance to root you to the ground

https://github.com/dalaranwow/dalaran-wow/issues/1415
>Maexxna
Pathfinding and Line of Sight - There are massive problems with a solid ground sometimes when it comes to hitting Maexxna, she often tends to go under web and glitch out, meaning it's impossible to reset her without GM assistance. The zone in that particular room should be remade just to avoid her to glitch out under web, in the wall and simillar.
Happens usually on: "Taking the aggro, reseting, killing a player and simllar".

>Stalagg/Feugen
Magnetic Pull fail - Sometimes if you stand too close to the edge of the platform where Stalagg is, there is a small chance that he will throw you inside the pool instead on the other side.
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>>135626263
>>135626784
>Kel'thuzad
Pathfinding is screwing the script big time, mobs are spawning undeground and simillar most of the time + they have some weird way points.

They fixed some of the bugs from the first comment, but all the ones i have listed above were never confirmed as fixed. But wait it gets better. Another poster adds a long list of bugs that are in Naxx, and they reply
"Thank you very much for such detailed report, it is really appreciated.
Everything shall be implemented bit by bit."
and
"I am currently preparing the Beta test for ToC, as well as working on the Argent Tournament from Icecrown."
then there are no more updates with fixes. here are some of THOSE issues

>4HM
Sir Zeliek and Lady Blaumeux are not casting their AOE spells,when there is no one in their shadow/holy bolt range (55 yards)
Condemnation (http://www.wowhead.com/spell=57377/condemnation) and Unyielding Pain (http://www.wowhead.com/spell=57381/unyielding-pain)
This issue really ruins the balance of the raiding in the encounter,so if possible to fix it as fast as you can.

The spells Condemnation and Unyielding Pain are not scripted properly.They should have 2 seconds cast , not instant cast.

>patchwork
Patchwerk is supposed to be Taunt immune.

>gluth
The Decimate should reduce the HP to all players and zombie chows exactly to 5%. Nothing should be able to resist this effect.

Dalaran peaks less than ToD, and is in a much worse state script wise
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>>135627138
>Patchwerk is supposed to be Taunt immune.
He wasn't in 3.0.2
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When are we unban genetics. He a good officer and not corrupt core. COBE shoulda talk to him like our lil nigga yarrick. Such double standers here
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>>135628806
This is actually true.
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>wiping on glitch because you can't handle adds and kiting
Wow it was really like joining a retail pug.
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>>135629101
>gluth*
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>sneaking into an archavon pug with a 3200 gs
who /mischief/ here
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>>135628806
>hes a good officer
literally none of the leadership but asscobra and senna do anything
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>>135629257
what else do you expect them to do? there's only one raid tier available
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>>135629257
buttbuddies welp and ruslan are good at bringing absolutely nothing of value to council meetings besides loudly agreeing to anything asssnake or senna says
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>>135629326
then dont call him a good officer when he was useless. asscobra and senna at least listen to suggestions and talk about it with people in discord.
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>>135618883
which one of those 2 would you recommend? I really want to do some tactical stuff in group during EU times.
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>>135629521
has there ever been a time when genetics or any other officer didn't listen to suggestions? sounds like you're assbent kid
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>>135629632
yes. i have tried talking to all the officers and whenever i mention anything they just say "k ill talk to cobe" and then never do so i have to mail him or pm him in discord or talk to senna before anything happens. quit defending shit leadership.
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>>135629493
Welp is infact a community manager at Myanimelist. Trust me he does a lot of behind the screens work in the guild.
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>>135629526
project 1999, it has an insanely huge population
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>>135629831
things that never happened the post
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<you> trolling on global
this guy thinks everyone in the guild is a retarded memer

can we spam him with shit until he has everyone on ignore? that would be nice
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>>135630269
t. Officer outed for being complete shit
He's right, most of you are useless
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>>135630414
>this guy thinks everyone in the guild is a retarded memer
>let's spam this guy like retarded memer
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>>135630414
>he thinks we're all retarded memers
>what a retard
>lets spam him with memes XD
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>>135630679
he's a lost cause anyways
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>>135629935
There's only 800 people online on Project1999. Can you really say that's insanely huge when Nostalrius pulls over 12k online?
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>>135630778
There are no instances is velious.
Also people who play eq go to sleep around noon because they didn't want to leave their group. It isn't like wow where eu time is primetime.
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>>135630648
that's fine if he thinks they're useless but he should use the actual reasons for thinking that and not just making things up
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>>135628806
>double standers
*tips burger cap*
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>>135630679
he's a normie who cares
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>>135631502
You do, considering you made the effort to take a screenshot, post it in the general and tried to rally others to support your cause in spamming him.

Just leave the guy alone, nobody gives a shit.
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>>135631787
Christ you're autistic
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>>135631881
You're the one taking screenshots and trying to unleash the 4chan army on some dude on a buggy polish wrath server.
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>>135631881
Alright buddy
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>>135631969
>>135632018
I'm not even the retard who posted the screenshots trying to shit on some literal who normie. You just care way too much about something so inconsequential. Let the guy act like a fucking idiot if he wants to.
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>>135631787
not even me
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god i hate ToD Lets just go back to GD ya? Uldar is 3+ months away anyway
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>>135632215
lordaeron waiting you
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>>135632143
>someone is being a retard in the general
>call him out on his bullshit

stop being autistic and let him be a retard XD

how about you stop caring about me caring about that guy acting like an idiot

checkmate
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>>135629526
I'm the guy you replied to. They're very different games but both are a lot of fun. P99 is an Everquest emu set in the hardest and most unforgiving state of the game. With that said I think everyone should try it out, at least to see where games like early WoW got a lot of inspiration in their game design. I'm redownloading tonight now that I've thought about it.

I haven't played a FFXI emu but I know they still exist, and Live was like an actual FF with other people playing with you.
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>>135632306
>lordaeron
worse scripts, probably longer time until ulduar
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retards in this thread
no wonder that normie got that impression
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>>135632451
Lordaeron has had a ton of updates though.
You're just too casual to deal with the content on lordaeron.
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>>135632143
>wasn't me

Good thing you hid your name retard.
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>>135630778
Peaks just under 2k, and it's a game without instances and no player based factions (like Horde and Ally). Only in the deadest of dead zones will you find few people. And only a few classes can solo well, which forces most people to look for partners or groups, of which there are many.
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>>135632704
lmao lordaeron is shit dude
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What is the next meme server?
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le aunt poisoner
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How scripted is theatre of dreams anyway.

I never got to play through wotlk and do dungeons or raids.
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>>135633691
It's awful.
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>>135633691
Scripting is worse than Dalaran and GD but slightly better than Lordaeron.

Honestly I'd just head over to Dalaran instead. ToD is 95% Polish and the population just tanks when they log off to sleep.
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>>135633667
wowcircle
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Now that the dust has settled. We have well over 10 people in on the Nost PvE dream. We will be rolling ally, just have to figure out guild name. We need any and every class. Everyone's just leveling right now so if you want in, now is literally the best time.
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>>135633691
It has the best raid scripts out of any server available. There's a reason why the /wpsg/ guild there runs two 25 man raids
>>135633790
>>135633882
have never played there
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>>135633882
got a link to Dalaran?
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>>135633667
>>135633956
check out nost pve
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>>135633961
>It has the best raid scripts out of any server available
No, it doesn't.
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>>135634027
www.dalaran-wow.com

See you ingame. Cheers.
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>>135634027
dalaran is a buggy mess desu
>>135634132
but it does, i've raided on GD, lordaeron, and ToD and ToD is by far the best.
Didn't even make it to 80 on dalashit because of how bad northrend was
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>>135634259
You are a shill. Your opinion doesn't even count.
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>>135633547
2hxc4u

Any braindead retard can clear naxx in 3.3.
90% of you couldn't clear a wing in lordaeron.
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>>135634340
I've played on more wotlk servers than you, i know more about emulation than you.
<You> runs two 25 man groups because the server is the best one available, there's been no /wpsg/ guild that's had that much success before.
It's a low rate, high quality wotlk server which is more than you can say about any others atm.
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>>135634340
>says the retard shilling for dalaran
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>>135633691
Very good scripting in dungeons, extremely good in t7 raids, good scripting in Northrend (Lorenaster is possible now), Outland was good (didn't get to do BEM, Netherstorm or SMV because I was 68 by the time I finished Nagrand by doing almost all of the quests), and vanilla was probably the worst of them but still in good shape. Class scripting is solid and most bugs are hammered out. The only way to really know is to try it, as with basically any server. If you need leveling gear there's a shit ton in the gbank.
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>>135633691
Non shill post here I have actually played there and will give my honest opinion.

Questing and pre-wotlk content is very, very average. You'll be able to complete all quests but it's a bit wonky at times and can get frustrating due to low drop rates on quest items. If you are focused on raids/dungeons you wont have any issues with this.

There are some class bugs but overall its pretty solid and the worst ones get fixed quite quickly. Everything you'd want to do at level 80 actually works and is scripted very well, the best i've seen of all current wotlk servers. Comparable to GD scripting if you ever played there. Naxx and all heroics are scripted well, you won't find any bugs until you start looking very closely. Again, they are working fast and the minor bugs that slipped through get fixed pretty quickly.

The bad part is that most of the community is polish. If you're NA you'll be mostly playing with the wpsg guild, there are like 3 other american guilds and they're all pretty small (10-15 active players). With that said, the wpsg guild is pretty big and there is always someone running something.

I strongly suggest you ask in discord or in the ToD guild instead, because as you've seen people are shilling like crazy in this thread.
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>>135634447
>I've played on more wotlk servers than you
Good try, but that's physically impossible. I've played every single wotlk server we've played on so my opinion is more valid than yours, mr. babbys first wotlk server.
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>>135634223
gintensity is on dalaran now?

he's a g
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>>135633882
>dalaran is good
See
>>135626784
>>135627138

Don't lie to new players in the general
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Can't believe Nost PvE is becoming a reality. It's about time
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>>135634597
I know man. It's long overdue.
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Battle for undercity works on tod and tod alone
/thread
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>>135634597
>>135634667
>10 people in a vanilla guild is a lot
>DM just got released
>vanilla on a pve server
DROPPED
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>>135634726
Someone post the screenshots of battle for undercity being bugged as fuck on ToD
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>>135635014
This would be valid except for the fact that they fixed it recently.
>servers fix bugs
Who would have thought!?
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>>135635092
>they fixed it recently
More shill lies.
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>>135634742
DM was more then a month ago and thats 10 people in 1 full day
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>>135635014
Ive known some people who had issues with it in guild and some who haven't. When i did it i didnt have any problems but i wouldnt be surprised if other people did since the scripts arent perfect and its pretty easy to bug it out if you do certain things.
Basically to answer the origional guys question there are over 50 of us enjoying the end game quality on ToD that is the best ive played on from gd/lordaeron/dalaran.
The rest of the players are basically jealous of everyone else raiding
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>>135635509
Bittera nobody is going to play on a pve realm when all the people who want to play vanilla already have 60s on the pvp server.
Also go shill in nosg faggot
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>>135635791
Not bittera but i also have a 60 on the pvp server, it's not playable
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>>135635791
That wasn't me that time tho senpai don't you bully me.
add me on discord to join the friend collection
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I haven't played tbc pvp in a while, but getting rekt by every rogue and warrior with some gear and everyone that uses mana is going oom in no time against them is pretty onesided
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>>135636047
>>135636065
/nosg/
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I don't understand why people shill so hard for shit servers like dalaran, they'll just log on and log out like 10 minutes later when they instantly see for theirselves.
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>>135636215
you sound like you're terrible
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How does vanilla WoW even work with 10,000 players. That's just retarded, how do you farm or well, do anything?
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>>135636385
You don't. That's why you play on the pve server.
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>>135636385
Buy Chinese gold to buy Chinese flasks
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>>135636385
It's more than 10,000
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>>135636356
And you like you've never played the expansion
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>>135636385
Its only 10000 during peak times, plus a lot of them are low levels.
Nosg shills need to go to their containment thread
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>>135636273
>being so new that you don't even know how to link to other threads
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>>135637217
I almost exclusively play casters in tbc.
I'm literally playing on a tbc server right now.
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i just want to eat snacks and smoke a ton of weed while i play on corecraft 15 hours a day
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Does anyone have any dank old tbc pvp videos

my list so far:
>drakedog
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>>135637371
>i play on an unfinished dead as fuck server
Lmao.
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>>135637317
I wasn't trying to link to nosg
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>>135637652
im so burnt out on the que simulator wotlk
same with vanilla, i dont even log in for raids anymore on nost
no one plays on hellground anymore, idk what to do also fuck you man
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>>135637893
play excalikek
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>>135637331
Then I wonder even more that you disagree that mace stun warriors and rogues are not the by far best pvp classes this expansion are, unless you want to be a cheeky sl/sl lock
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>>135638070
Because healers are unkillable in TBC. Especially resto druids.
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>>135638394
just thinking about a resto druid in tbc makes me seethe with anger
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>>135638643
Then roll one.
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>>135638705
SEETHE
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>>135638394
And that's another point why rogues and warriors are so good, classes without mana ressource that can spam out dps forever compared to casters
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>>135638767
You can either be mad at someone else playing one.
Or laugh at people trying to kill you.
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>>135638705
but they're boring as fuck
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>>135639041
Compared to most classes in tbc they actually have a lot of stuff you can do.
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>>135639270
except kill a nigga that's not afk
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>>135638978
Not having mana to worry about doesn't make one bit of difference. A healer will kill you eventually because you can't outdps his healing. If you actually played BC when it was relevant, you would know this.
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>>135639472
not if you are a sl sl lock
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Im board. Is warlock any fun to play in pvp for WoTLK/Cata?
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>>135639472
Oh yeah, I'm sure the two classes without ressource and ms have it just as hard as anyone else to kill a healer top kek
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>>135639472
back in TJC I was doing BGs with Aerobatics and Asscobra and around the windmill at farm Asscobra 1v3d 3 dps for almost 10 mins on his resto sham while we just ran around capping. Healers in tbc pvp are fucking broken, especially with pillar humping and it's really hard to kill them without perfect CC setups.
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tfw u stop enjoying tod after lvl 70..
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>healers are so hard to kill
Had wpsg always been this shit at pvp?
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>>135639687
hi board
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>>135640464
I don't know how anyone could enjoy it pre70.
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>>135640718
t. never above 1700 in tbc arena
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>>135640951
i've played 2100+ as a dps and 2200+ as a healer, that's why i know how to kill them instead of crying on wpsg about it
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>>135640464
tfw u stop enjoying tod 5 minutes into starting it
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>>135640718
A proper hpally is neigh unkillable alone as a non-caster without spell oriented interrupts.
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>>135641123
and guess what? you won't do it without a solid CC setup like >>135639853
said. nobody said it's impossible, it's just more difficult than other expansions and if you were actually above 2k you would know this.
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>>135641123
>I'll just make shit up to come off more credible
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They guy with more epics does a stronger clicky clicky and wins, guess I go back to other games, this is boring
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>>135641320
>>135641381
i'm talking entirely about 1v1's. again sorry you guys are shit
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Arenas aren't 1v1.
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Is someone going to post some nice open world outland pvp vids or nah
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>>135641437
>1v1
you won't kill a pvp geared healer 1v1 as any class. now i know you're talking out of your ass.
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>>135641437
>i'm talking entirely about 1v1's
Grats on revealing that you have no idea what you are talking about.
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why are all the hunters mm on wowfreakz?
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Can we play on a tbc server now?
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>>135641775
excalikek
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GD
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le
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>>135642098
no
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>>135641615
>>135641645
The only class that isn't a guaranteed kill for a rogue 1v1 is an equally geared/skilled feral druid.
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ITT wrathkids talking out their ass.
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>>135643072
this desu
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>>135643072
i'm not a wrath kid but i talk out of my vagoo
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I just started on a private server a few weeks ago only to experience some delicious Vanilla PvP. I played Vanilla WoW way back when on retail (up to WotLK before I quit forever). I used to run the standard 21/8/22 dagger build and loved it. I was Rank 13 for a real long time...but I started to hate the "VANISH/BLIND/PREPARATION/BLIND/VANISH" game. I wanted something more consistent that relied more on mechanical skill rather than blowing all cooldowns to blow up an enemy.

So after much deliberation, I played around with the talent calculator and I think I'm going to do something like this (gonna be main-handing a sword) instead:

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#fhebotzZG0edbZxMx

I'd rather be a jack of all trades and use my skills to take control of my weaknesses. I've always been really mechanically sound at vidya (please, not now, guys) and the thought of hitting 60 and once again always running in circles to land backstabs and use cooldowns constantly has worn thin over the years. Thoughts? I know it's not really touted as the "best cookiecutter rogue build" for a reason, but I'm trying to factor in my current skills and attitude.
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>>135646070
Play mage, get elemental spec, get engineering, become 2016 vurtne.
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>>135646435

I'd rather die than play a caster.

Anyone want to offer advice that regards the post I made?
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>>135646070
I used this for a really long time for pvp and raids, the cp generation is crazy

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#fheboxdAZGcZV0xc
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>>135646070
That spec is beyond shit.
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>>135646070
This isn't a Jack of all trades spec, those don't exist in vanilla. You're missing out on the good parts of combat and sub. If you want a "mechanically skilled" figure spec in pvp you need to go hemo or combat/sub daggers. Cold blood is just for eviscerate crits, it's the pom pyro of rogues.
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>>135646706

Interesting, thanks for the tip. I won't be doing *any* raiding (outside of maybe LBRS/UBRS) for a real long time though. It's good to see that some people stuck to builds that didn't dip in to the 30 talent point abilities that weren't 21/8/22.
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>>135646706
>raiding
>0/3 slice
>imp. ambush
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>>135646070
you're basically just going to be running around spamming SS and evicerate.
sounds boring desu
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>>135646903

Constructive. Though I don't doubt I'd probably still beat ya with it.

>>135647062

So it sounds like I was right the first time: 10 years ago. Looks like I'm stuck there forever...
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>>135647108
You can always change the points from improved kidneyshot into imrpvoed slice and dice if you want to be it more a pve than pvp spec, but I never used it, since my idea for the spec was to be able to do as much 5 point eviscerates. Looking at it today, I don't even know how I was equal or topping the combat rogues like that, but the backstab crits make up for the lack of white hits as it seems
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>>135647108

He did say it was used for BOTH raiding and PvP...as sort of a "I'm too lazy to perfectly optimize for one or the other so I'll just use this makeshift hybrid build that is functional in both scenarios" build. Not sure why you're cherry-picking two talents.

>>135647219

But I'm not. That is how I would be killed. I would still need to time gouges, vanishes, blinds, sprints, evasions, and kicks --- and still would have Cold Blood and Riposte in the rotation. If you think any rogue can just "spam ss and eviscerate"...well, you'd be right about one thing. It would be boring...

...always running back to your own corpse.
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>>135647687
the only spell you listed that does damage is riposte, and you need to parry for that and what's your parry chance going to be like 8%?
90% of your damage will be from spamming SS
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>>135648138
how can 90% of his damage be SS when auto attack will be 40?
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>>135648138
You are aware that riposte is already an additional damage spell that most cookie cutter specs don't even have?
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>>135648645
i assume he meant yellow damage
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>>135648138

Still not understanding that I wasn't debating where my DAMAGE is coming from (why are you ignoring times where Rupture may be used, or my white damage). I was talking about rotational play. But if you are only entertained by (and count) damage as the "things you do" then I guess every game ever is pretty bad.

>Guys, Dark Souls is bad. You only have two attack buttons. Pretty much just spam R1/RB and R2/RT.

I know that's not what you're really saying, but it seems silly to try to argue that. No matter what build you are as a rogue, your bread and butter moves (for damage) border on 2 or 3 usually. I get where you're coming from, but it seems more like you're honing in on an knee-jerk fallacy.

>>135648645
>>135648727

Exactly.
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>>135648727
you are aware riposte almost never procs when you only have 5% parry chance?
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>>135647268
>>135647687
>ellipses

Kill yourself
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>>135649110

>an knee-jerk

That was originally "an honestly..."
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>>135649150
With the deflection talent it's 10% and it's still one more attack than usual,even if it should be easy to just put into a macro together with ss. The point being it's adding something and usual rogues have even less
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>>135649110
>white damage is "fun"
the whole point was that you didn't want to do something that was boring, now you're saying that white damage is part of your fun dps rotation?
dude the spec is shit, go ahead and waste your time i don't really care
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>>135649150

>>135649274

>trigged by pixels

You first. ...

>>135649150

Where are you getting these retarded as numbers from, man? My level 25 has a 6.2% to parry right now -- with 0 talents spent. If you saw the very first build of this "mini-thread", you'd see I'm grabbing +5% more parry chance from that talent. ~12% parry chance without even being that geared is incredible when you consider a ROGUE'S ATTACK SPEED.

>>135649450

Every time I start replying to bad responses, someone else swoops in with logic. Thanks, Anon.
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>>135649806

Why are you telling me what my "whole point" was? At no point did I say I wanted to do something that wasn't "boring". I said I started to hate the old build because it was overly tedious and generally "lame" to just 100% to 0% an opponent with a whole bunch of chain cd/cd reset abilities just because my build often required that kind of flow.

Please don't pull the "I don't really care" internet cop-out if you were tossing out (You)s.
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>>135647268
>Constructive. Though I don't doubt I'd probably still beat ya with it.
I honestly doubt you could beat anyone considering what you think a good spec is.
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>>135650457
>mistaking ignorance & stupidity for confidence & competence

I'm so sorry.
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>>135650442
>thought of hitting 60 and once again always running in circles to land backstabs and use cooldowns constantly has worn thin over the years
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>>135651119
>thinking you can be competent when you're ignorant
At least you tried.
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Thanks for the tips everyone. Going with that 21/18/12 build.
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>>135656579
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>pickles
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Who to whisper for an invite to the mop guild?
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>>135656579
kek
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>>135659759
wpsg is actually playing mop, well it was a good run boys
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>>135660494
It hasn't been a good run. For the last teo years nothing but wrath and a couple of karas happened
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Played one evening of pvp and reminded me why this will never be considered an esport and stays an mmo, maybe it's better like this
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>>135661078
why wouldn't arena 3v3 or 5v5 could be considered esport?
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>>135662184
not him but
>crit chance
>resist chance
>random dmg spread
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>>135662587
also
>proc chance
>other random effects
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>>135662751
>>135662587
So dota?
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Literally dead guild
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>>135662986
yes, dota is also not an esport
assfaggots are dumbed down rts for plebs
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>>135663183
Why do you shitpost so much Zanitho? We spoonfed you loot that should have gone to other people.
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>>135662184
The first and most annoying problem is that gear is for the most part deciding who wins. An esport title it not build on who farmed longer, gets the better items. If everyone would be scaled to the same itemlevel, then the balance would be a big topic, but not even arenas start out fair. A good counter strike player is not starting the first round with an apw, just because he plays for 3 months longer, that's not how it should be
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>>135662587
Why is soccer considered a sport then when the ball is round?
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>>135663276
dota is taking the easy parts of an rts and leaving the hard parts in
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>>135660494
>well it was a good run boys
It literally wasn't a goo run. After GD, this place turned to complete shit.
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>>135663329
why are you so dead?
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>>135662587
then remove any and all rng factor of the game, or at least make it non crucial to the result of the match.

The level of mechanical skill plus the decent amount of player coordination on 3v3 or 5v5 makes it already pretty superior to shit like lol.

Rated 10m capture the flag or defend base type BG's would also be a good fit in an esports context, but I feel it requires less mechanical skill (it would be obviously more of a team coordination game)
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>>135663553
I guess we know who isn't getting a raidspot this week :^)
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>>135663631
>5v5 arenas require more skill than 5v5 moba
confirmed for playing neither at even a semicompetitive level
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>>135663329
Who the fuck is zanitho
I haven't logged into the guild in 3 weeks
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>>135663772
are you really going to argue that a 4 button game requires more mechanical skill than wow arena?
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>>135663887
You're actually retarded
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>>135663449
you know who was playing dota in wc3?
people who were terrible at wc3
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>>135663772
>4 button game
confirmed never played a moba
dota is harder anyway
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>>135664003
I know it's different because there's lanes.
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>>135664046
Bullshit.
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>>135663743
I'd have to be in the guild to get a raidspot.
But I don't raid with you shitters I'm on another server now.
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>>135664143
what server?
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>>135664003
I don't know man, instead of throwing out insults like a 12 year old kid, at least enlighten me on how it is mechanically more difficult to play a moba than wow. By mechanically I mean the hand skilll of pushing the correct buttons in the correct time at the correct target.
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>>135664358
You're really just showing you've never logged into a moba, theres no reason to explain it
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>>135664358
because you click to move
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>>135664329
Nos
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>>135664143
that's because we kicked you for being shit, seth
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>>135663887
Besides the most effective ways to use cooldowns in wow is to stack them up in one-shot-macros, there are almost zero skillshots, almost everything is point and click. It also depends on about what expansion you are talking about. The later it gets, the more of a clusterfuck of buttonmashing it becomes for standard dps rotations
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>>135664571
>that godawful taste in books
jesus christ
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Nost PvE is really roaring atm
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Fuck it guys, I tried my best-- nobody can take that from me.

But I'm done with you fucking retards, this has been the biggest waste of time in my life.

Fuck you all.

And if I see you on corecraft, I'm fucking fucking bully you.
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wow arenas require more mechanical skills
mobas are more about strategy than mechanics
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>>135664675
>I'm fucking fucking bully you.
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>>135664675
literally who
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>>135664675
I have no idea what these faces are trying to express, please use other images
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>>135664675
im sure you'll be missed
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>>135664675
>I'm fucking fucking bully you.
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>>135664675
With CC just around the corner I can't wait to see you there.
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>>135664419
I have played a moba, yes. I am merely comparing the act of pushing buttons on both games.

>>135664609
I don't see how that makes a moba require more hand and finger coordination that wow arena. Don't tell me that just because you point to a general direction and press a button that it requires a good amount of hand coordination.
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>>135665190
how many hours and what moba. you're actually retarded if you think wow arenas are harder
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>>135665287
Not him but I'm 4.7k MMR
>inb4 dude wow xD you're so shit!
on dota 2 which is WELL WELL WELL above the average and Diamond 1 in LoL. High level WoW arenas are much harder.
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>>135664571
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>>135665287
again. are you a 12 year old autism that cannot hold a conversation without insults? I know that this is 4chan but come on.
Anyway, if you cannot comprehend that what I mean is basically this >>135664742 , then I just don't know how you are able to breathe.
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>>135665489
lol
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>>135665489
>comparing my shitty mmr to high level wow arenas
how about compare high level dota to high level arenas?
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>>135665765
>are you a 12 year old autism
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>>135665893
A 12th level autism is a force to be reckoned with.
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>>135665781
Link your dotabuff with you being higher than 4.7k. It's literally the top 5% of the player base and it's not even the "elite" of the top players.
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>>135664571
>those bands
>not even good metal
>those books
>those movies
>that television
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>>135666457
not the guy you replied to but i'm 4.5k and it's the fucking trench. there is a huge difference between 5k and 6k, and 6k and 7-8k
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>>135667387
>implying there is such a thing as "good" metal
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le aunt poisoner
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>>135668845
cool reddit commic
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>>135668845
I bet you listen to katy perry at the gym
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>>135669230
>>135669301
Hello, assmad teenagers.
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>>135669230
>it's bad because it's reddit
spotted the literal child
t. the cobe
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>>135665489
Average MMR was 3.9k 5 months ago and MMR only increases. Diamond I is top 1%.

You're a shitter and have no idea what you're talking about
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>>135670000
>get quads
>waste it on LoL mudspeak

I fucking hate this general.

Why do we play on these shit servers?

MoP?
Cata?
Warhammer?

Are you fuckers braindead?
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>>135670847
I'm doing heroics on excalikek :^)
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>>135670847
>he thinks quads nobody will remember on a meme thread in a meme imageboard are relevant enough to be upset over
Is this actual autism?
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>>135670847
>mop is shit cata is shit wahawahaha why do people play and enjoy different things than I?
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>>135670847
MoP is the second best version of the game, I don't fault people for wanting to play it.

Age of Reckoning is really good if you like to PvP, but most of the people here are PvE babs
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>>135671803
>literally
who?
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>>135671421
>>135671365
>>135671359
Yeah you guys are fucking retarded.
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post dank memes
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>>135671421
is age of reckoning a pvp server?
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>>135671803
Oh hey thrang, we just need a third!

And some scrubs to play wintrade against
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>>135671421
is it a private server*
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>>135672212
>>135672393
They're playing on Return of Reckoning which is a private server of Warhammer Fantasy Age of Reckoning. It has pretty good PvP, but just like the game it is inspired by, it lacks meaningful PvE content
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So I understand liking mop. The pvp was miles better than 50m long 2v2 Cata and SL/SL Restokin TBC (but worse than wrath by a bit), and the content after ToES and HoF was really good (ToT being almost as good as Uld and Kara). But what I don't get is, why the fuck are you playing on an unscripted pile of garbage? I doubt most boss mechanics work, and I highly doubt that all the class mechanics work. Does pathing even work?

If you are going to play mop, why not just play retail and stay at level 90? None of the raids got the "legacy raid" buff yet, and with the stat squish and change to classes they are still relatively hard (stuff that was soloable during end mop is still not soloable now).

I know retail is shit, but playing on a 1/4th working server just for 1 or 2 good raids is dumb (because let's face it, everything outside of ToT, SoO, and PvP is dogshit. The dailies were horrid, timeless isle is crap, the leveling was god awful, and everything about it is kinda crap).
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>>135672686
Because wpsg is full of retards that's why.
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>>135672686
Because they don't have enough people to raid 90 legit.
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