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Based worm edition

>News
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>Deck lists, news etc:
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>Open Tournaments:
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>>135450534
Its a wram wrangler wbuff that's all
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>mfw I'm ready to dust my golden force of natures when they get nerfed
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>>135451101
>implying they're not nerfing Savage Roar like with Patron
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>>135451101
It's probably not gonna get nerfed friend
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Mech rogue seems alright.
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i'd be very grateful if somebody could post that furion - yu gi oh pic that says "victory is mine"
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>>135451101
Why would they nerf that? It's totally fair and balanced.
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>>135451286
probably this.
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Now that we're going to lose our early game, can we get cool mid to lategame cards?
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>>135450534
Shai-Hulud
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>>135451479
Paladin will get nothing and like it.
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>>135451569
:(
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is this the right place for a newbie to ask shit about the game and such?
is there a way to export your card list or something like that to ask people for help in building a deck?

pls I seriously don't wanna resort to reddit.
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>call steven and see if he still has that charizard, maybe you can trade it for some of your salt
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>>135451910

Post a screenshot of the deck you're using.
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>>135452051
I'm not using any, just leveled up every class and opened a couple of classic packs, I wanna know if I can use these new cards I got, but I don't know how to show people my "collection" and shit.
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>>135451910
You just screencap it and crop in paint

yeah you can feel free to ask, hearthstoneplayers is also a good resource for new people.
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>>135451434
agreed
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>dont use holy fire for quite a while in my priest decks
>put it in elise deck since I dont have a 2nd lightbomb
>no one expects it
Overall I'm surprised how good this card is as a one of
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>>135452265

Download Innkeeper. It'll prompt you to register an account at Hearthpwn. You can then sync it to your client and look up decks on the site, which will show if you can build it or which cards you're missing.
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>>135452345

>1 more mana than fireball
>1 less damage

>In exchange you restore 5 fucking health to your hero, as a control class meaning to prolong the game

Its pretty damn decent
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>new shredder replacement that supports C'Thun
>new shield maiden that gives 2 times the armor

Who is already hating the new meta already?
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Finally, a card to be excited about ResidentSleeper
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>trump streaming booby hearthstone

neat
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>>135452280
>face hunter
You deserve it
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So what is the hottest decks right now?

i've played like 15 games now and not seen a single dragon priest.
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>>135452265

Out of all the heroes you played, which one you liked the most/did well with?
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>>135452541

>this shit + brann

Not even accounting for armor smith, shield block etc.

FUCK
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>>135452505
What's the shredder replacement? Also yes, fuck the new shieldmaiden. If there's no way to get rid of armor in OG I'm just going to play CW.
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>>135452484

Holy fire is six mana senpai.
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Do you guys think Hex in aggro shaman would be too cheeky?
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>>135451073 →

Speaking as a WoWfag, I only got into this fucking game because I saw that Uther could swing the fucking Ashbringer and crush Jaina's smug fucking mage face.

Most people don't have my autism like that, but it offers their content plausible deniability when it comes to setting card effects. For instance, did you know that Loatheb didn't actually stop spellcasting, and that DPS casters with his effect were actually batshit insane in DPS? But they took the core component - no healing - and made it "no casting"
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Can someone translate this for me? I believe it is some form of angry kebab language

Context: Rushed him down as secret pally, he played sylvanas into my rag, so I played muster and hero powered, and his sylvannas died to rag and stole a recruit

Then he brawled a board full of recruits and rag, and rag (With kings buff) survived.
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Consider the following.
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>>135452815
earth shock does the job most of the time, but im thinking about it too. you can put one in and try it out, then report back.
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>>135452278
>>135452469
alright, thanks.

>>135452630
the mage has a shitload of removal which seems to make it rather easy, compared to other classes, but the priest seemed easy aswell, and the warlock is kind of cool but I didn't do well with him.
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Is there any guide on the optimal amount of gold to save for the next expansion?
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>>135452767

Unless you are playing Drood, Rogue or Mage, you will have a hard time trading efficiently against this.
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>>135453035

All of it. Every shekel. Don't the Chosen convince you otherwise.
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>>135453093
Then why isn't that 4 mana 3/3 divine shield played?
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>>135453093
>a shredder that buffs your lategame
OP
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>>135453035
probably just save it all up, my dude
if you buy a shitload of packs you can craft all the stuff you didn't pull and go back to buying classics with dailies
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>>135453013

Second question.

Do you like fast games or drawn out games?
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>>135453240

Because a 4/2 divine shield is MILES fucking better than a 3/3 divine shield.

Also C'Thun buff
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>>135453240
higher attack is always better on a divine shield minion. thats why scarlet crusader is a pretty decent card
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>>135453093

>Not playing Stand Against Darkness against this and countering it

:^)
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See the thing i don't get is that Blizz says over and over that they dislike OTK decks and nerfed Warsong and will nerf FoN/Roar and Anyfin via Murk Eye...

Then they're printing essentially a pre-built deck that centers around an OTK with C'Thun (I imagine ppl will add in Brann or Brewmaster for multiple nukes)

Why? It's bad enough we only get 134 cards and an eighth of them only support one gimmick. Now that gimmick is basically an intentional OTK.
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>>135453240

4 attack is a lot more impactful than 3.
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>>135453315
4 attack and 3 attack arent a big difference unlike 4 and 5 or 2 and 3
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>>135452948

Would work in magic, not in hearthstone
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>>135453093
>Unless you are playing Drood, Rogue or Mage, you will have a hard time trading efficiently against this.
Yea man real hard
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egashefo#1168

gib pack :D
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>>135453428

Because they want it to sell.
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>>135453428
c'thun is 10 mana m9. If you wanna play it with brann that takes 2 thaurissan ticks, brewmaster sure but thats's still not an otk. getting it to deal 30 damage is not really viable. It's not an otk deck. c'thun is just a finisher/power play type card
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>>135453493

You don't get hit by SW:P or Shadow Madness with 4 Attack.

>>135453573

And your yeti is now a 4/1.
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>>135453531

>"Restoring health"
>Relevant in Magic

u wot

Unless you mean something like "Give +0/+1 until end of turn"
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>>135453093
Whew
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>>135453760
how many times have you queued into a priest who runs shadow madness today? ive played over 300 confirmed matches and never once saw one
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We need more cards that generate spells.
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>>135453093
>all these C'thun cards

lol. Yeah Good luck getting to turn 10.
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>>135453313
fast games I suppose, I faced a paladin earlier that kept on throwing shit on the board, we even started to get damage from fatigue, tedious as fuck.
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>>135452948
I-I actually like it.

OC fags are still subhuman trash.
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>>135453726

It's not gonna deal 30, but I feel like 16-20 won't be too tough going by what we have seen so far.

The deck is also probably gonna be some semi-midrange-y goodstuff shit, so it's not like it's gonna leave the opponent at 30.
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>>135453890

MAGE HAS ENOUGH BULLSHIT. FUCK OFF.
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15+ good ladder decks

I can make anything

Go

Also preferably not hunter or aggro in general
Something different or interesting would be cool
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>>135453726

You would probably want to Brann/Brewmaster the buffers and not the nuker.

2 copies of 3 buffing cards + Brann + 1 Brewmaster on any one of them would mean C'Thun does 22 damage when summoned.
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>>135454098
face hunter is fun and uncommon.
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>>135454098
>15+ good ladder decks

trumps basic priest
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>>135453996

Good luck when control decks literally rape you to death
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>>135454250
A lot of the C'thun cards aren't good control cards.
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>>135454046

Th-thanks anon.
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>lose hard to a dragon paladin at rank 15
>realize it's the fucking dragon paladin from the deck recipes

what the fuck man
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>>135452948
>aquamancer x2, pyro x2, northshire x2 thaurisan/velen/face engine

i can dig it
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>>135452684

Brann will be an auto include in almost every deck coming out of this expansion it seems. The combos it will be able to pull off will be bananas.
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>>135454351
thanks for the easy trade into my MC
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>>135454038

Ok. Warlock can be pretty busted once you get the right cards due to its hero power, but if you're starting out mage has the most solid basic cards.
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>>135454207
>>135454214

useless

I'll just play freeze mage
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>the new deck screen swap button

holy shit did an intern design that? looks waay out of place. they just slapped the button upon the old UI
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>>135454492

>playing wild.
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>>135454319

............have you seen the class cards anon?
thats the tip of the iceberg
we have 120 left and clearly aggro meta is fucked
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>>135454373
I needed to finish some paladin quests yesterday. I tried that exact recipe in rank 15, lost 3 times in a row with it.

mfw i have no mysterious challengers
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>finally finish playing wow

I"M FREE. I HAVE A TRANNY PORTRAIT NOW THAT I"M FREE. HOLY SHIT IM A SUCKER FOR DOING THIS BUT IM FREE
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>>135454682
>implying the MC cancer is leaving standard
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>>135454774

You just wait. There's 5 other portraits to unlock, and that's WITHOUT the newer classes in the game.

You think you're free from the grind just yet?
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>>135454856

>no mini bot, muster or boom.

Its dead jim.
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>>135454774

This manfaced whore isn't worth it for me, I don't want to risk relapsing back into WoW over a shitty portrait
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>>135453996

>huntard
>ever relevant these days with the true smORC that is Thrall
>no more scientist for free trap

Get with the time, gramp.
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>>135454856
>no avenge
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>>135455000
>not implying bbrode has 3 more op techs for paladin in the next 120 cards to be released
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THE DREAM
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>>135454204

Building on that, you could run those cards plus 20 control-ish ones to ensure you survive to play all the buffs and thr big bad. Heals, taunts, removals and maybe some fatties that require an answer right away and an emperor tick here or there would basically guarantee the nuke goes off.

The buffing guys all have viable stats too and some impressive effects like +10 armor for Warrior or 4/10 for Druid.

And as we already know from Brokeback, 22 direct damage from the hand is kind of a problem. This time you can't even mitigate it with Taunt.

Seems a little too much but we'll have to see what the other non gimmick cards are like to judge.
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Would it see play?
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>>135455275
OP
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what legitimate golden classes do you guys have?
botting or low ladder dropping doesnt count
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>>135455254
>always a 6/6 for 3 with coin
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I'm new what packs should I open first? Or should I just arena?
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>>135455275
OP as fuck. Would be an auto-include in every deck.
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>>135455275

Absolutely fucking busted.

It would be too good as a 2/2
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>>135455275

>absolute curve wreck unless removed immediately.

Gee anon, I don't know.
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>>135455220
>sap
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>>135455460

Open some Classic packs, then do Arena

Under no circumstances open Goblins&Gnomes packs
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>>135455440

Warrior (3 seasons of patron)
Rogue (2 seasons of oil)
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>>135455275

this would be a 4 mana at least
stats would probably remain or make it a 3/3 for 5 mana
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>>135455220
THE SEQUEL TO THE DREAM

>>135455669
got 3 draws of chrom bb
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>>135455275

>better than mana wraith by miles

Don't be a tool, anon.
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>>135455460
Get all heroes to level 10, do all basic and hidden achievements (google it) for free gold, then arena. The first run is free, maybe watch guides beforehand.
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D I S R U P T I O N
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How about this instead?
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>>135455440
Paladin, priest, mage
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>>135453093
dies to shredder
most of the time
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>Beaten by freeze mage
>Beaten by control warrior
>Beaten by patron warrior
>Beaten by aggro shaman
>Beaten by hybrid hunter

Is it just me or is secret pally not nearly as strong as it used to be
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>>135456201
Everyone's teching against it
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>>135456201
It's not nearly as strong as this general hypes it up to be.
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>>135456201

>Playing Secret Pally

You're lucky we don't dox you and burn your house down, faggot.
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>>135455460

Classic. Those cards are permanent.

Arena is good if you have coin or cash. Teaches you how to trade and if you get gud the rewards are nice, granting back your entry fee and rewarding a pack or two.

Look at some infinite Arena players on streams. Find videos of them you can pause and try to learn and understand what they play, when, and why. Btw infinite means they win 7 to 12 matches every time and can then use the reward funds to keep playing AND buy packs. No need to spend cash ever once you reach that level.

Don't bother with GvG since it's going to be Wild Only in a month and a half. Get some TGT packs after your basic and expert collection is decent. Most of those cards are mediocre but some are kinda decent.

Good luck and have fun anon.
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>>135456136

as a class card then maybe
driving up an opponents mana cost on anything by 2 consistently shouldnt be neutral

wed all be running this and games would revolve around fucking up curve or getting removal in the first 4-5 turns
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>>135456201
It's not so much overpowered as it is forgiving. You can misplay the fuck out of it and still win as long as you play on curve. That's why the biggest complaint about it is "autopilot: the deck"

Also people generally know now what secrets they usually run and the best way to go about shutting them down.
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>>135456436

It should Exhaust a minion instead so it can't get Silenced.

Aso 1 mana lol.
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>>135456331

>Mad at someone playing a deck literally everyone is teching against to make sure they lose
>Mad at a deck losing more than 70% of its cards in standard

That being said mysterious challenger is still a strong as fuck care as is

I really wouldnt be surprised to see some kind of new secret c'thun pally spring up in standard

I mean, thinning your deck of smaller cards on turn 6 just puts you closer to drawing c'thun
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Whatever happened to voting on cards?

Blizzard being lazy this time around I guess.
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>>135456630

You can vote on cthuns flavor text though :^)
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>>135456201

No, anon, it's just you being so bad at a children's game with one of the easiest deck. Consider quitting the game.
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>>135456630
Nigger, it's still two fucking months.
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>>135456725

Oops

http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/forum/topic/20742934646
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>>135456616

Secret Pally is becoming a control deck. There's enough control cards that can fill the holes of the midrange/aggro cards that are cycling out for it to continue.

But, honestly, fuck you for playing Secret pally.
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where my /pay2win/ brothers at ?
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If I pace myself at one arena a day will I retain my sanity?
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>>135456838
And theres over 100 cards to spoil.
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>>135456935
does golden kt bring back golden minions even if they arent golden?
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>>135456935
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>>135456934

>Fuck you for playing literally the 4th-6th best deck in the game (Depending on who you ask)
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>make an oil rogue deck
>winstreak to 17

I'm gonna start losing terribly now, aren't I
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Bring back say effects and put voice chat in the game
idc how impossible it'd be I want to sperg out hard
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>>135457402

>4th-6th

If it's that low, you're asking some SERIOUS shitters
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>>135457427

You know it.
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Would this be playable y/n?
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This brawl brings new and innovative ways to win :^)
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>>135457553
i dont think i understand it
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man, trump is going full sellout mode today.
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>got my first 12 - 0 arena run as Liadrin with 0 truesilvers, 0 consecrates, 0 kings, 0 legendaries

Truly mai waifu.
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>Warrior that spams threaten five times while he has lethal with grom

ok m8 calm down
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>>135457049
yes
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>>135457742
still paladin. still had uldaman. still a cuck. fuck off.
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>>135457684
Say your opponent has a 3/3 and you trade this into it, your Bolf would resummon itself and be a 3/9 again, even when your opponent trades their minions into it
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>>135457695
Has been for months and it's pissing me off. He quits Hearthstone after 1-2 hours and then plays Duelyst/FF14/Faeria or whatever his current contract is.
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>>135457526

Well I queued into a Dragon Priest. And my Shredder summoned Millhouse. I'm doomed.
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>>135457856
wish i was /p2w/ :<
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>>135457553
too fucking slow
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>>135457806

>players actually get legitimately excited over this game

underage or autistic

I only get excited when the rng does something ridiculous

in some cases me and the opponent add eachother to talk about how insane the game was in a respectful manner
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>Paladins have a minion-based way to remove threats
>They brag about it

When will this meme end?
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>>135458071
No, I think he was spamming because I had mostly board control and he only had 5 damage on board, pretty much immediately after I ended my turn I realized I should've cleared the board first.
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I am really gutted, i didn't realize bliz was deleting shit from the game. I didnt finish all the nax wings. and i have next to no gvg cards. I wanted to collect all the cards in order and forget the order, it will take years to craft all the old cards. don't know why bliz had to go full retard just as the game was getting even better.
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>>135458071

Anger is the only emotion this game makes me feel
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>>135458021
It's supposed to be the ultimate down trader since nothing par a 5 attack can kill it.
In order for it to be cheaper it would have to have lower attack
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>>135458234
If you have at least one adventure wing unlocked the others will stay available forever.
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>>135457524

Aggro shaman
Patron warrior
Freeze mage

3 top tier decks that all Trump secret pally.
Thats why I put it at least 4th.

Curving out well with high value minions every turn, then playing a 6/6 for 6 with battle cry "Summon a 2/1 taunt the enemy cant remove, that will ressurect without taunt when killed, as well as buffing a random friendly minion for +3/2 after something dies, and your one minion left alive after the enemy clears everything else gets 1/1"

Is a strong play for sure. But its still just a high value minion. It wins more if you're winning, can push you in the lead if you're tied, and slightly hampers an enemy if you're behind
AND it relies on drawing well to begin with. If you draw into secrets early but didnt get to play them with an early secretkeeper you're pretty much fucked

Compared to freeze mage's "Im never gonna die then Im gonna generate 2-4 fireballs from antoniadas then Im gonna alex you then Im gonna kill you and theres nothing you can do about it"

Or shamans "Good luck gettint to turn 5"

Or patron warriors "Literally every card in this deck counters yours and then Im gonna mash you in the face with a 12 attack grommash"

Like I said, its strong, just not nearly effective a deck as a concept as those 3
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>>135458071
>playing as control priest vs control warrior
>we're both fatigued, both have monkey by now
>just smashing legendaries into each other
>I end up winning by a hair
>add him after to talk about how crazy it was
>never adds me, probably assumed I wanted to shit talk

I wish the spergy faggots wouldn't add after games and give us good lads a bad rep.
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>>135458336
well at least they threw me a bone there.
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>>135457897
only had 1 uldaman, I did have 5 minibots and lots of abusive/dark irons
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>>135458234
Nothing is being deleted.
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>>135458465
>5 minibots
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>>135458465
>5 minibots
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>>135457972

Huh, I actually won. Went turn 6 oil into flurry, turn 7 boom then turn 8 hero power - sap - poison - edwin. He conceded lol.

Maybe I can actually get past rank 15 this time around...
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>>135458234

>Just as the game was getting better

GvG and Naxx have made this game steadily worse as people perfected the most broken decks
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>>135458362

If the text for a Battlecry is that long, I'll assume it's pretty fucking good.
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>>135458362

>secret pally whining about losses

Good luck stopping from being SAD in standard then, you palashitter.
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>>135458465
>5 minibots
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>>135458614

And yet the deck that it forces you to build is weaker than the other most commonly played top tier decks
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Post yer decks.
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>>135458385

I always add them

and even if they rage I just let them have it and respond light heartedly
no point in taking it too seriously
especially as a card game
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I can't seem to get past rank 5 as aggro shaman
Did the deck fall off or am I just bad?
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>>135458774

Is that why whenever I try to breach level 10, I'm savaged by botted Secret Pallies?
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>>135458721

Im not whining you pleb Im trying to challenge the notion that secret pally is this unstoppable juggernaut of broken shit, when in reality its a good deck (been soaring up the ladder with it last couple days) but not as good as the other top decks
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>>135457487
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>>135458905

You make it sound like it is hard to have a hand of keepers or minibots or whatever crap then curve to turn 6 mc.

It's not. You're just bad.
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>>135458931
>cowgirl tauren
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>>135458807
>4 paladin decks
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recommendations?

I have 430 wins and just wanna get warlock golden already

I know there are a few switch outs I can make

Just curious what works best around the 10 rank
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>try dragon paladin
>get matched up against three face hunters in a row and lose

who the fuck is still playing face hunter god damn
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Is Reynad joking? How's he a virgin?
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Is there not a way to reorder your decks? It's annoying have to go past the basic ones to get to the ones I want, do you really just have to delete all the decks then remake them in the order you want?
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>>135459108

a lot of people
i actually feel okay losing to mid hunter
but the face ones that barely scrape by drive me crazy
like I just made one concede recently and didnt even feel good about it
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>>135459221

It turns out "I play a child's card game for a living" isn't very popular with the ladies
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>>135458807
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>>135459367
Face Hunters and Secret Paladins that only go face just make me stop playing for a day or two if I face two in a row. Same with Freeze Mage, it's not fun or interactive.
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>>135459221
he is an insufferable cunt
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>>135459108

>cheapest deck to make

Why not? It's even one of the suggested recipes.
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>>135459415
>>135458807

>post decks
>new players
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How's this for a card

>Angry Ape
>4 mana 1/1
>Every turn this minion is alive summon another Angry Ape
>Deathrattle: Give all other Angry Apes immune this turn and +1/+1
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>>135459590

What an autistic post
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>>135459798
unless you have a stealth spare part it wont survive one turn
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>>135459798
end of start of the turn? its the difference between this being op or garbage.
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>>135458807
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>>135460146
Not him but "every turn" means every turn you and your opponent take, so at the start of your opponents turn and the start of your turn, that's how micro machine works and it has the same wording.
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>>135459108
Just load it up with taunts
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>>135458807
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>>135459798
remind me about that one kawaii ass spider novel
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>when you get a map to the golden monkey in a thought steal and manage to pull it

Well that was fun.
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>>135460289
not it doesn't you moron, micro machine says explicitly at the start of each turn.
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>divine spirit + power word shield on deathlord
>no silence in my deck

fucking rip
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>>135453760
>And your yeti is now a 4/1.
and his servant is fucking dead, whats your point
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>>135459221
I feel like he could probably get girls
Ugly ass girls though, ones that would want to use him for his money/popularity and would blackmail/publicly oust him if he refused

And this faggot probably believes he needs to keep up the "edgy cool guy on the casual card game" facade or else he'll lose all credibility

Literally thinks he deserves 10s when he'd be lucky to get a 4 and that 4 would still try to use him in the end
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>turn 2 mage esportals
>turn 3 spectral knight
>spend 4 turns trying unsuccessfully to get rid of it
>turn 7 drops dr boom
wow this game sure is great
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>>135459814

good meme man you really got him with the whole autism meme
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>Bench 'Em
>10 Mana, 1 Attack, 1 Health
>Charge. If this minion kills the enemy hero, that player can't queue another match for ten minutes.

How much play would this see?
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>>135460776
>implying that's not you
stop trying to save face you desperate faggot
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Is there a general rule of thumb for mulligan or does it entirely depend on deck and opponent?
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>>135460776

It's not a meme, what kind of fucking retard shoo's away new players. Do you WANT your general to die?
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>>135460816
people would use it at rank 20 to bully newer players, nothing else.
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>>135460387
Suck a dick faggot. I had to stop playing Elise because literally every fucking priest faggot steals map/monkey and thinks they're some god of the game for doing it.
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>>135460881
it depends
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>>135460816

People would instantly concede during the intro animation
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>>135460881
of course it depends
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>>135460694

Reminded me of what happened to Jon Finkel before. The bitch literally blogged how failed he was or something like that.
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>>135460950

I was playing brawl tho
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>>135460890
>>135460862

cry more with your shit decks kids
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>>135460881
It 100% depends on your deck and matchup
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OC

I want control Paladin.
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>>135461215

You don't even know what's in them though, drop the pathetic act already.
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I've lost so many stars playing this deck but holy fuck it's actually crazy fucking fun.
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>>135460881

You generally want cheap minions so you can do more than hero power your first 2-3 turns. With some matchups you want removal. For example if you are playing mage and facing a shaman, mulligan hard for frostbolt to immediately remove the turn 1 trogg before he can rape your face with it.
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>>135461405
>that hero power
no
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>>135461405
Does this give Divine Shield to face? Because if it does Paladin would auto win fatigue
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>>135458807

Yes, I'm bad.
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as part of the nerf to classic cards besides the obvious like druid combo, I think molten giant will get nerfed
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>>135461405
>(insert corruption pun) trueheart
>6 mana 3/6
>replace your hero with an alternate one
>defensive hunter power, offensive warrior power, your paladin suggestion, etc

probably have the strengths of the alternate powers be a bit better than normal hero power

there now we can be more inclusive :D
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>>135461405
>Divine Shield to self
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>>135461703
>>135461919

The way it's written I don't think it's intended to be able to target face at all.
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>>135461848
most people have stated that molten will also be an obvious target
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>>135461405
That card would be absolutely retarded. If it actually saw print the creator would receive no less than a hanging and I'd say he got off easy.
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what should I add to my hunter deck guise :^)
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>>135462058
A deck to synergize with your lack of a deck.
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>>135462048

They didn't execute whoever thought it was acceptable to attach a zero mana cost to draw and play 5 cards on top of playing a 6/6 body
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>>135459221
but didn't he have aex with someone girlfriend and it was a big thing on here and reddit?
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>>135461919
dumb weeb poster.
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>>135462058
make a mech deck
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>>135462003
It just says "Gain 2 health and Divine Shield"

This is badly written, because it should say "Restore 2 health to a minion and give it Divine Shield"

or "Restore 2 health, if it's a minion give it Divine Shield"

The first one excludes healing face though
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>>135459018

I havent said once secret pally is hard to play you thick sack of shit. Im saying its not that strong

No its mot hard to mulligan for minibots and musters and curve out to 6
Im saying that it doesnt matter if you do against the better decks
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>>135462291
>believing e-celeb shit
>paying attention to e-celeb shit at all

You morons are worse than the people that pay attention to actual celeb bullshit.
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>>135462058
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>>135462279
The one that's in a barely top 5 deck?
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>>135462442

I think it's intended to actually increase the health of minions, like a PWS and a Hand of Protection slapped into one.
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Feelsgoodman
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>>135462181
>>135462424
>>135462503
I put in all the mechs I had, what should I take out for wolfrider (top tier)?
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>reynad was banned from MTG for cheating

holy shit I didn't know. lmao, what a faggot.
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>>135462591
The one that's the most popular choice for botting to legend, yes
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>>135462591

>arcane intellect: draw 2 cards for 3 mana
>sprint: draw 4 cards for 7 mana
>le secret man: 6/6 body, draw and play 5 cards for 6 mana

Just because people have learned how to play against secret paladin doesn't mean the card that enables this deck isn't disgustingly overpowered
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>>135462638
You should put in Metaltooth Leaper
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>>135459019
>No tauren tribal with female taurens in HS
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>>135462710
Actually he was suspended for cheating.

Then got twice the length for being a bitch and throwing a temper tantrum on twitter about it and calling judges a fag.
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Thoughts?
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>>135463039
>No tauren tribal
There's like 3 tauren cards in the game anyway, and if they added tauren they'd have to add every other race too.

You dumb faggot.
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>THE DREAM
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>>135462470

You state that secret paladin is not strong, and yet

>freeze mage gets fucked by drood & warrior in an out
>everyone running harrison or belcher to deal with dumbhammer
>patron is dead against priest or any deck with proper aoe above 2 damage

Get your priority straight, son.
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>>135463126
ur tryin to get purged m8?
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>>135463190
i hope bolvar becomes playable in standard
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>>135463327
anon...
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You're at the tavern and this guy slaps your secretkeeper gf's ass twice for 1 dmg. What do you do?

Keep in mind he's 2/4 and serves the firelord.
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>>135463382
Don't...
Let him dream of memes tonight. We will tell him when the time is right.
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>>135463382
just make him immune to silence
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>>135463407
Attack him with a perfectly curved 4 mana 4/2 weapon that heals me for 2.

The say well met.
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>>135463056
lmao. this just keeps getting better and better
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>>135463327

He will clearly be forgotten in wild
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Blizz PLS make Paladin viable out of stupid secret shit or stupid anyfin shit.

I want Dragon Paladin to actually be good so badly.
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>>135463213
I just wanna choose the insects I squash
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Eh, she was a bitch anyway.

He seems like a cool guy, I'd probaby invite him for a drink and hang out with him instead.
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Should they un-nerf cards that will be in wild and have been nerfed in the past? Might as well commit all the way for the bullshit meme format.
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Post skill
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>>135463485
I feel like a lot of minions would benefit a ton from this, or even just Battlecry immunity would be nice
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>>135463640
Whoops, meant to reply to this: >>135463723
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>>135463190
And it died just as quickly. At least he got to know what it felt like to be a 18/7, if only for a single turn.
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>>135462841

>5

Stop pretending paladins run any more than 4 kinds of secret

Avenge, noble sac, redemption, comp spirit

Nobody runs sacred trial because a deck slot that only gets value when the enemy floods the board and normally isnt good value anyway: is shit

Repentance: Also useless mostly

Eye for an eye: You kidding nigger

Remember, paladin secrets are cheap, small mimimal impact spells on their own and your deck has to run them to run mysterious challenger. So bad draws fuck you really, really hard. Both by gimping your mc and by giving you shit to play in your first few turns

It's be like a mage 6/6 for 6 that made you run 5 mirror images or 5 arcane missiles. You really dont wanna spend that much space in your deck on small cheap shit
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>>135463723
That would be fun to see actually: a format where every card is in it's strongest time.

Pre-nerf Warsong, pre-nerf Undertaker, 5 mana Auctioneer, 4 mana Leeroy, pre-nerf Starving Buzzard.

Makes you wonder which would be best
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>>135463962
Pic for proof.
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>>135464235
>the return of young dragonhawk in ranked.
I'd dig it
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>>135464384
>Waaaaah, my opponent has a battlecry to reduce my big minions attack to 1.
>Soo unfair, blizzard cant into balance, waaah.


>Aldor on the fucking board, in the same screenshot
Paladincucks, everyone!
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>>135463967

Draw and play 4 cards is still an extremely fucking powerful effect for no increased mana cost, considering sprint is draw 4 cards for 7 mana. Just because you have to run secrets for MC to be useful doesn't mean he is balanced, that is the same retarded reasoning used to defend mad scientist.
>muh bad draws
Not a valid argument, bad draws can happen to every class/deck.
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can this get me banned
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>warrior gets armor because tank
>priest gets heal because healer
>rogue gets weapon because dps
>hunter gets attack because ranged dps
>mage gets attack because ranged dps
>druid gets attack and armor because shapeshifting
>warlock gets card draw because of life tap refilling mana
paladin gets summon a 1/1 because?

Can /hsg/ design a better paladin hero power?
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>>135464698

>grimscale oracle
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAVCkVclNR4

>not having this playing while you play dragons
>not dropping Deathwing at the climax
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>>135464754
It clearly works
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>>135464821
>Rank 19
Clearly, anon.
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>>135464749

Well if you played vanilla WoW Blizzard also didn't know wtf to do with paladin when that was new
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>>135464643
I ain't even him

but shut the fuck up
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>>135464698
>screenshot saved to desktop
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>>135464749
Heal your hero for 3, justicar upgrades it to 5.
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>>135464643
literally where did he complain that it was unfair you dumbass

paladin is fucking weaksauce when it's not secrets/anyfin anyway
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>>135464865
You healed. Paladin was literally the best healer in the game once AQ hit. In Wrath it was the best tank, and in BC the best AoE tank.
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>>135464749
give a minion +1/+2
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>>135464749
>didn't even mention shaman
sounds about right
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>>135458807

r8
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>>135464991
Blizzard stated they designed every hero power to work even if you have nothing on board so you can always at least spend your mana doing something, no matter how small.
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>>135464968
wrong

vanilla = best healer
bc = best healer
wrath = best healer
cata = best healer
warlords = best tank/best healer

i wanna get ret in legion because muh ashbringer

theres gonna be huge drought of holy and prot paladins
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When are we going to have a "pay mana" mechanic in HS?
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>>135464749

pally only had iconic shit in vanilla wow and they'd make shitty hero powers

>cleanse
>FOL rank 4
>hammer of justice
>being a blessing vendor

not that great
>>
hammer of justice

target enemy cant attack next turn
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>>135465224
They were always the best healer. They are an endless mana battery because of the critical mana regen, in Wotlk they were absolutely the best tank. Ardent Defender allowed them to survive fights that the other tanks couldn't handle, and hammer of the righteous + holy wrath made for top tier aoe threat.
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>>135451101

Savage roar: give friendly beasts +2 until end of turn
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>>135464968

But they had to wear cloth to heal, the lack of plate healing gear made it pretty obvious that Blizzard wasn't sure what to do with paladins
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>>135465242
Inspire and Curse of Rafaam are basically "pay mana"
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>>135465405
literally freeze.
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>>135464384
I SAW YOU USE BOTH YOUR SILENCES THIS TIME MISTER DRUID, EITHER YOU HAVE THE COMBO OR BOLVAR SMASHES YOUR FACE IN.

O-oh, you do? Nevermind then, I didn't want to have fun with my 1600 dust anyways...
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>>135465476

holy priest was the GOAT in vanilla wow, pally only shined in BC till the heal crit was nerfed to 40% from 100%
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>>135465512
yeah but paladins cant freeze

its 'stuns' them
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>>135465405
How about a permanent thing like Ancient Watcher? Target can't attack unless silenced
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>>135465480
>>135465356
Once they got AQ gear and T2 they were unkillable healers with endless mana. They also had the absolute best raid buff in the game.
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>>135465746
now that would be broken
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>>135456436

>>135465405
>>135465746

you
fucking
people
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>Innervate a Shade turn 1
>Paladin concedes
>Other game
>Normal game with paladin, some back and forth. I dont have much but play emperor and hope to play ancient of lore next turn to draw something good
>paladin play tirion and concede
what the hell. you guys didnt tell me druid was tilting people this hard.
>>
How do we make Brawl not random?
>>
Crusader Strike

Deal 2 to a minion

idk

paladin is the jack of all trades class
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>>135464749
Divine Protection
Give a unit divine shield this turn
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>>135465242
Sadly, the reason they made Inspire is so that they could afford having to make a "pay mana" or "tap" mechanic.
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Divine Intervention
Give a minion Immune
You lose the game
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>>135466385
>jack of all trades class
Thats pretty much every class in WoW now. it's so watered down and generic.
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>>135465549

Druids also run BGH
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>>135466674
not really

>mage dps
>rogue dps
>shaman dps healing
>hunter dps
>warrior dps tanking
>warlock dps
>druid all
>paladin all
>priest dps healing

every class needs a dps spec for leveling

i guess you could argue that once you hit max you would go to your classes 'main' spec but really only druid and paladin can do it all

although druid tanking is silly
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>>135450534
>some kid beats me
>"epic troll has added u"
>send him gore videos
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Hey /hsg/ check out my totally balanced card
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>>135463039
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>>135466346

You can't completely remove the RNG from brawl. It should be a 6 drop and you shouldn't be allowed to play it if your board is empty.
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>>135467047
>snipe
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>>135466346
strongest minion survives (highest cost, or attack, or overall stats)
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>>135467047
dies to C'thun
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Are there any negative enrage cards yet?
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Rate this brawl:


Mana curve

turn 1 - can only play 1 mana spell or minion
turn 2 can only play 2 mana spell or minion

etc etc

unlocks on turn 11
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>Eye for an Eye is winning

Feels good family.
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>>135467386
1/10 mana crystals friend
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>>135467326
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>>135467386
You mean this one?
http://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Clockwork_Card_Dealer
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Decided to check out what cost minions would do what in the brawl. I wanted to see the best curve for a malygos deck by seeing which value minions would be likely to give spell damage affected spells. The middle column is spells with spell damage that can "kinda" go face, like avenging wrath or fist of jarraxus. Some of the stuff in other would still be amazing to draw. The interesting thing is how you can always rely on 9 mana drops to give you tree of life. If you can survive to that point in the game and sacrifice some HP for tempo somehow this could be a really good approach.
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Brawl idea
>turn 1
>10 mana crystals
>turn 2
>9 mana crystals
>turn 3
>8 mana crystals
>so on until you reach turn 10/1 mana crystal
>then it resets
>turn 11 is 10 mana crystals
>turn 12 is 9 mana crystals
>turn 13 is 8 mana crystals
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>>135467586
no, you make your decks
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>>135467420
all of the flavor texts suck
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>cobble together shitty meme deck for brawl
>keep winning games
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>>135467752
illiterate idiot
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>>135467773
yeah they're all pretty shit, even flavor in general. If they were more lore focused I would actually be inclined to read them but they're all just shitty puns.
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ok, so I just made this deck using info from one of those websites in OP, I made it to rank 17.
do you guys see anything wrong with it that I might be able to fix?
could I keep going with it?
what rank's the point where basic decks become useless?
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>>135468060
sorry

no, it would play like a regular game besides the rules
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>>135468265
Basic decks need better cards slotted into them around rank 15-10.
You don't need a T1 or T2 deck until rank 5 though.

But if you're not playing like 8 hours a day and grinding arena in your free time, you'll need a few months to get the gold for adventures and packs to make your basic decks no-longer basic.
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>>135468265
seems alright. you can make it all the way to rank 5 with them if you're good. but at around rank 10 things will get pretty difficult
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>use nefarian against warrior
>double shield slam

t-thanks
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>>135468779
if you have spell damage, it can still come in handy :^)
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>>135468626
>>135468664
understood, thanks.
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this fuckin kibler
>godlike wife
>rich as fuck thanks to games
>earns money with games anyway
>bleach white teeth
>cocaine addict
SO FUCKIN LUCKY
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>>135469502
wow, more pic of her?
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>>135469502
Bow to Kibler
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>>135469502

why live?
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>>135469502
>doesnt look like boogie
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post evidence of kibler snifing coke
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>>135469840
It's a meme mate, get used to it.
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>>135469840
>>135469893
its not a meme

its true
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>>135469840
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN-zYxwIimE
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>playing bullshit tempo mage in brawl
>throw down mad scientist and get a spell
>Lock and Load
>my dick is literally diamonds
>after a few turns
>my hand is full of 0 cost spells
>he ends his turn
>motherfucker doesn't even know what is about to go down
>plop down sorcerers apprentice and flamewaker
>activate my trap card
>start spamming every single card in my hand
>don't even give a fuck what they do
>arcane intellect to draw more shit
>explosions and missiles flying everywhere
>lock and load gives me minions to play which put more spells in my hand
>rope goes off and shit's still blowing up
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Guys I think I lost this match. There's no way I can get lethal here.
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>>135470298
REDDIT
E
D
D
I
T
PICTURE
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>>135470298
disgusting
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>>135466346
Highest total stats/attack minion survives.
Or just get rid of it because CW is already a nightmare to fight
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>>135470385
>>135470395
He didn't even let me finish =(
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>>135470298
REMOVE DRUID
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>>135470298
Standard and the nerfs that come with it will be the greatest thing that ever happened to this game
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>>135470298
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>>135470298
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>>135469610
Thanks, Kibbles.
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Does arena still give GvG? I've stayed away from arena cause I don't wanna get fucking useless packs as rewards. Did they change anything in 4.2?
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>>135469610

Thanks, Kibbles.
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>>135470459
I liked how in the TCG warrior weapons had infinite durability, but cost mana to swing, so they could keep controlling the board by sacrificing health or tapping armor, but could only swing one at a time.
Their really expensive cards (6 or 7 mana) let them deal their weapon's damage to 2 or 3 minions, but they still couldn't reliable just destroy a board.

They did have execute, and other cheap removal to get rid of one big card though, but that was their specialty.
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>see priest in brawl
>concede

Now you don't get to enjoy your 30 minutes of extended bm you nigger JOKES ON YOU
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>>135470298
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>>135471386
Feels weird seeing the non-looping version
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>>135470298
>6 cards, 10 mana, 4 of which need a thaurissan tick
it would be silly if that didn't OTK a nigger

but, of course, any damage not done directly with non-charge minions is bad and wrong for some reason
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>>135471645
Because they can't really play around or against it. Priest is fucked even though they have unlimited 2 mana heals.
People think it's cheap to be killed so easily even when they fight and win the board
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>>135471232
you can disenchant every adventure card now
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>>135471645
I agree, it's completely balanced.
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>>135458807
k den
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Fuck every single one of you that cries for more deckbuilding Tavern Brawls because of "muh strategy". What strategy is there in finding the one or two decks that dominate the brawl every week? Hint: one of them will always have Flamewaker. After two days when people have it figured out and everyone else copies their netdecks, Tavern Brawl becomes more cancerous than the ladder meta you all cry about so much.

Build new decks and try them in casuals or on ladder if you want the deckbuilding experience so bad. Oh wait, you won't risk losing with "suboptimal" decks since getting rank 5 is the only solace you receive in your shitty and pitiful existences. Kill yourselves, stop polluting the one game mode where wacky shit is actually allowed to happen.
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>>135471645
The problem with force/savage is that you can just slap them into any druid deck and then basically play a standard midrange game until you drop a ridiculous combo with only 2 cards that gets stronger with each minion on your board. Compare to freeze where the entire deck is based around it and you have to fight for your life to get the direct damage combo off.
Not only that but you can run 2 copies of force savage and each card can also be used fine on their own
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>>135472079
play 1 game for pack. how hard is that
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>>135472336
I did. If this brawl was any fun though, I'd want to play more than once. Because it would be, you know, fun.
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>>135471837
>Priest is fucked even though they have unlimited 2 mana heals.
that's the point. this is what combo decks do, and are supposed to do.

if you're so slow that you don't kill or armor/taunt enough to survive a full double combo by the time the druid gets it, then you're simply playing a bad deck against druid. you think you "have the board," but you've already lost just by taking too long, and people not understanding that seems to be why combo shit gets so much hate in this game.

that, and even a double-savage 22-damage combo rarely happens. the regular 14 really isn't that outrageous.

>>135472092
>Not only that but you can run 2 copies of force savage and each card can also be used fine on their own
I don't fully disagree with your post, and in fact I'm still sort of okay with a nerf just to get more variety in druid, but this isn't really true. force and savage are pretty mediocre when used individually as removal compared to what every other class gets, and having them clogging my hand without lethal has lost me plenty of druid games.
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>Magni doesn't have Fiery War Axe replaced with a hammer
>He even says "It's hammer time"
>has a hammer in portrait
>not one fucking hammer in warrior

REEEEEE
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who /climbing/ here?
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>>135472972
I am. In reverse though. Fell to 8.
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>>135472972
Post decklist, senpai.
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>>135472601
People hate Druid combo especially because of how ridiculously it scales with minions on board, and how even the shitty 1/1s from Living Roots are an extra 6 damage unless you clear them. I always feel like my life total is only 16 when I play against Druid because of how ubiquitous the combo is

Freeze Mage is almost more annoying because it has the ability to completely ignore your board and either freeze everything in sight or sit behind immunity and 16 extra health while they play Alexstrasza and burn you to 0 from 1 Thaurissan tick

Between the 2 I'd say Druid is still more annoying because they always run double silence and have the ability to be more unpredictable with Innervate
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>>135472972
Tried to. Was rank 13 a few days ago, fell to rank 18 playing a shitty deck, now back up to 15.

It's painful with the amount of control priest and oil rogue I'm going up against.
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>>135473293

Here you are, fampai.

>>135473503

>briests and oil rogues at rank 15

Sounds about right.
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>>135472972
I'm trying but I just can't take it anymore. I'm so sick of paladins and druids and warlocks. The occasional control warrior just makes things even worse
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>>135472972
Rank 12 right now. Just started playing around 2 weeks ago.
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>Misdirection lethal
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>>135473660

Patron warrior farms drood, zoolock and still play ball with secretards. Control matchups are pretty abysmal though. Even then my climb has been more or less steady so far. Give that a try if you can.
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>>135473618
>patron
Too hard for me. Trying to learn control at the moment. Thanks anyway, fimfam.
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>>135473997
>tfw have everything I need for patron, even Gromm that I was lucky enough to unpack
>except Death's Bite

I've really tried to make it work without Death's Bite but it's painful. So many opportunities where I know if I had DB instead of revenge I'd be able to go off with berserkers, armor smiths and patrons and kill a big minion but I just can't.
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>>135473997
I would but I don't have grommash or armorsmiths and I don't really wanna craft anything before standard, especially for a class I never play
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>>135450534
I think I found a unpublished bug fix. Did I?

I finally played Cairne vs a Warrior as Magni and instead of "Garrosh, you are not fit to rule the Horde" it was its usual phrase.

It could just be that I haven't played that card in a year though.
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>>135474143

That sucks. Have tried wild pyros? Could work, but DB is definitely irreplaceable.

>>135474182

I dunno man, warrior is a pretty safe investment imo. Wallet warrior has been around forever.
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>>135472079
the secret deck is maly warrior that doesn't play any damaging spells in deck, just gets them off of 2 drops
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>>135474471
I just don't like the class, couldn't tell you why. Probably my least favorite one in the game after those scumbag paladins
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what's a good meme deck to play on ladder
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>>135474715
Exodia
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>>135474143
>>135474471

Also, Revenge is defenitely not what you want to run with patrons. Aggro can get pretty close, and something that can kill your boys sounds pretty bad.
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>>135474715
meme decks usually aren't good.
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battlenet shitting out on anybody else? my internet is working fine, but can't connect to game and the website is the only thing in my browser that won't load.
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>>135474715
Malygos Hunter
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>>135474715
Velen burst priest. Laugh as renolocks become jaraxxus only because they think they're safe against priest only to die to double mind blast auchenai flash heal
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>>135467047
ruined by silence. UP
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>>135474715
malyrogue is secretly better than oil above rank 5
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>>135472601

>defending brokeback
>defending 14 damage from hand turn 9
>defending 22 dmg turn 9 with 1 minion on board
>defending force innervate double roar
>defending the fact that 90% of competitive druid decks are just double combo + filler on curve

Let me guess, brokeback carried you to legend so it's totally balanced right?

Enjoy Standard.
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>>135465105
Unless you're priest :^)
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>>135469610
Thanks kibbles
>>135469502
>you'll never racemix with a blonde haired beauty
why even live?
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>>135464749

Those are my boys you're talking about. Don't hate on my little niggas.
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>>135451407
>400 posts later
I feel bad for you, my man
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>C'Thun + Two cultists is handed out for free
>Three packs are handed out for free
>Brode recently talked about how the deck slots change was mostly because new players have a hard time building decks since they can't even see the basic decks for editing
>Deck recipes strongly imply there will be changes when Old Gods hits.

Calling it now, every class is going to have a C'Thun variant or some shit.

Think about it, all of the C'Thun cards have decent stats for their mana cost with a tribal effect that either makes the finisher stronger, or makes some of the other cards much more powerful.
What an easy thing it will be to tell new players "Play a c'thun deck, it just requires playing minions on curve and then C'thun for the huge finish!"
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Nerfed Class cards:

>Warrior
Charge
>Shaman
Windfury
Windspeaker
Lava Burst
>Rogue
Master of Disguise
Conceal
Shadowstep
>Paladin
Divine Favor
>Hunter
There doesn't seem to be anything here.
>Druid
Ancient of Lore
Force of Nature
>Warlock
Doomguard
Power Overwhelming
>Mage
Frost Nova
Blizzard
Cone of Cold
Counterspell
Ice Barrier
Ice Block
>Priest
Shadow Word: Pain
Divine Spirit
Inner Fire
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>>135476402
What are you talking about?
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>>135476402

>Master of Disguise
>Used in like 3% of Rogue decks, ever
>Nerfed

For what purpose
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>>135476348
>every class is going to have a C'Thun variant or some shit
God damn you are so slow you could fucking write for Kotaku.

They have already spoiled 2 and all but confirmed it already.
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>>135476402
How does lava burst need to be nerfed? It's shit already. Just to let you know there is a spell that does the same damage for the same cost without overload. You are absolutely retarded
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>>135476704
They can't make neutral cards with strong passive effect
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>>135476704
Limits design space
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Who waiting for nerfs, here?
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>>135476763
Blizzard is enforcing damage based removal to be minion only.

Trust me on this, my dad is Ben Brodes jester.
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>>135476871
>>135476918
What is brawl, what is equality consecration, what is vanish, what is lightbomb, what is flamestrike, what is deathwing.
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Is it a better use of my gold buying packs or using arena to get packs?
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>>135477005
>2 card combo being reliable
>doesn't kill minions
>GvG card
When was the last time you saw flametrike in constructed
>too slow, discards your entire hand, beast in my sights, etc etc.
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>play heroic escape from LoE
>AI completely ignores Animated Armor and goes face every time
Muthafuckin ez mode
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>>135477253
Why doesn't everyone play gruul conceal plus master of disguise? It's such a broken combo it is really a shame I figured it out just right now what a pity
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>>135477253
>When was the last time you saw flamestrike in constructed

About 3 minutes ago, actually. That's because I'm laddering with Fatigue Mage.
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>>135477253
>When was the last time you saw flametrike in constructed
All the fucking time now
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>>135477420
Because Lightbomb is a card that 3 for 1s the whole combo.

Remind me about that when Standard comes out. That might become a thing if Murloc Paladin gets nerfed hard enough
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>>135477253
>When was the last time you saw flametrike in constructed
every time I queue with reno mage
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>>135476402
>nerfing Priest cards nobody uses
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>>135476402
>cards that hurt my feelings are the ones getting nerfed guys!
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>>135476402

>"I'm shit at HS" The Post
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>>135476348
This expac is pretty janky so far, it feels like we'll see half the cards be god buffs and gods leaving about 60ish original cards.
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>nobody has serious decklists for pure vanilla decks
Sure fuckin' wish I'd saved my decks from back in the day.
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guys what is happening? i got disconnected because of my internet connection. then after im about to play again. i lost my shield block and whirlwind. what.send help
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>>135478479
Nigga it has already been SPECIFICALLY stated that only C'thun is doing this whole buff thing. The other Old Gods will be their own thing.

Further, it has also been explicitly stated that there are only 16 C'thun synergy cards in the expansion, of which we have so far seen 5 so far.

If I had to guess there will be one C'thun card for each Class and 7 neutral C'thun cards.

We've already seen the Warrior and Druid C'thun cards plus 3 of the neutral ones. I would guess that they are announcing these cards early because C'thun has been chosen as the face/gimmick of the expansion.
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/hot opinions/
>TGT was a shit expansion

Thoughts?
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I just got the beast, do you think they will make changes to him or shall I dust it?
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>>135478847
that's the general consensus
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>>135478930
BGH nerf means he might be useful
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>>135478847
I can't actually think of anything other than dragon faggotry that TGT gave us.
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>>135478997
Justicar
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>>135465242
N E V E R
cant implement on ipad/mobile the closest we might get is 'activate if you have x mana at the end of turn' and even that is retardedly hopeful
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>>135478997
Who am I?
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>>135478970

I wonder how they are going to nerf BGH, if it's just an increase in mana or lowered stats I would probably still play him
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>>135478847
>objectively right
>hot opinions
You tried
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>>135478997
Secret Paladin?
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>>135478997
Cancer
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>>135478997
Justicar
Bash
Shaman card draw
darnassus aspirant
living roots
dr6
totem golem
and a few meme cards like spellslinger, paletress, refreshment vendor

probably some other good cards, I cant remember
>>
*collects welfare*
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is baron geddon and ysera a staple for CW?
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>>135478847
tgt isnt out yet, it's being released when nax isnt out
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>>135479223
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>>135479201
Gormok is kinda used
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>>135479223
How salty was that mage?
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>>135479312
Plenty of other cards are kinda used, like murloc knight. I just mentioned the meta changing ones. Kinda.
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>>135479312
Also Arcane Blast in tempo mage
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I really enjoy this
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>>135479348
Well after I played Jewsera he conceded. That salty.
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>Play a card not seen in constructed play
>Opponent takes it to the rope because hearthstone players are incapable of independent thought when they can't copy a streamers actions
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>>135479426
>hiding rank
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>>135479573
>opponent plays a bad card
>laugh my ass off and rope him
>he posts frogs on an chinese neonazi forum
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>>135479598
>muh rank
Does being at 5 or higher every season make you feel superior in a children's game? I'm hiding my name so I dont namefag.
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>>135479909
baited, account is already on ebay :^)
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>>135479909
Cropping the image was an extra step. I assumed you didnt want to show your rank. Noone cares about your name, but I can see your point of view.
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>>135479909
hacked
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>>135457487

Fucking hell that art looks awful
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>>135480094
I have to crop every screen shot anyways because I have multiple displays.
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>>135464782

You forgot the part where BGH kills your Deathwing and you concede.
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>accidentally disenchanted rafaam
is this bad? should i regain him?
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>>135480290

>not running 2-3 bgh baits
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>>135480348
>This is why we can't have 18 deck slots
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>>135480269
Oh. I just press screenshot and HS creates it by itself.
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Did you forget this /hsg/?
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BARON GEDDON, YSERA, OR HARRISON?
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>>135478494
Meh at least Felli won.
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>>135480348
You can undo and not lose any dust.
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>>135480520
CAN YOU WAIT UNTIL STANDARD OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE RIGHT NOW?
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>>135479201
Murloc Knight too.
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>>135480568
dont worry. im rich. what do you think?
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>>135480548
only if you cant it before you leave the screen, which i doubt he did.
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>>135480631
Then craft all 3.
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>>135480662
You'r right, but then he is an idiot.
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>>135480679
i only have 1 slot left for 1 more legend..
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>>135480348
He's shit anyway xdd
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4/12 untargetable when?
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>>135480631
Baron is chemo, Harrison is tech, Ysera is a win con
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>>135480803
uh. baron it is. im still pretty much optimistic that CW will still see play in standard.
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going into brawl with druid and shitting on all these auchenai+tree of life faggots :^)
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>Make adventure deck
>que into ranked
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So Druids are literally getting a 4/10 for 4 mana.

What the fuck is Blizzard thinking?
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>>135481272
Not that simple. Will have to wait and see.
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>>135481272
Warriors are getting double Shieldmaiden.

What's your point? Both of these cards only work in C'thun decks and are average otherwise.
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>>135470298
You don't even need Loatheb, it's more than 30 from hand. Disgusting.
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>>135481476
>6 card combo that required a 7th card to be played with 4 of the cards already in hand
>disgusting
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>>135481476
So, assuming ticks from emperor, malygos, sinister strike x 2, evis x 2 is also disgusting?
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>>135453996
why is he so perfect bros?
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>>135481272
The likelihood of drawing and playing all the otherwise generic C'thun cards on curve and in order is pretty low for this to be played on turn 4 as a 4/10.

This is more likely going to be a turn 7-8 4/10 for 4 mana, which as scary as that may sound, still only trades evenly with a 5/5 in a vacuum
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>playing p2warrior for 2 weeks now
>first time trying to hit bash on face
today i learned
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>>135481272
It won't be a 4/5 on turn 4 in most games. So it's a yeti on turn 4 that scales into the lategame.
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>>135481721
So it's a strictly better yeti.
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>>135481604
Obviously, yes.
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it's a late game yeti!
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>>135481272
4/15 with Brann.
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>>135481756
Yes. But yeti is a neutral and this is a class card.
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>>135481756
It's a class card AND it only works in C'thun decks, which means you have to include at least 2 (but more likely 4 or 6) ultimately mediocre cards to get it where you want it (because they have on-curve stats but until you draw and play C'thun they essentially have no positive effect).
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>>135481883
I'm curious about the 1 mana card that will interact with Cthun
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>trying to win 5 with druid in brawl
>4/13

SEND HELP
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>>135481678
Just like paladins will draw all their secrets right?
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>>135481845
Shredder is finally gone. We were supposed to finally be getting back to reasonable 4-drops, not replacing them with something even more ridiculous.
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>>135482007
>He thought standard would make the game fun and balanced
You know this is blizzard we're talking about, right?
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>>135482007
Did you really think this was going to happen?
They need to sell a whole new expansion.
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i find myself running out of cards on my hand. any help? also. rate maybe? i think if this deck as anti aggro..
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>>135481949
At least this isn't a super Taunt, resurrection, +3/+2 buff, 1 minion equality, and Power of the Wild all rolled into 1 minion
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>>135481936
>1 Mana 2/1
>Battlecry: Give your C'thun (Wherever it is) Charge, Windfury, Taunt and Divine Shield

Or something like that.
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Basic minions that are played in constructed:

>Houndmaster (1 deck)
>Water Elemental (1 deck)
>Northshire Cleric
>Flametongue totem (1 deck)
>Fire Elemental
>Voidwalker
>Kor'kron Elite
>Acidic Swamp Ooze
>Bluegill Warrior

Discuss
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>>135482116
Try not playing cancer warrior and then come back.
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>>135482007
Druid is 1 class out of 9, Shredder is played by everyone.

Also this will be a 4/5 on turn 4 in most cases, which is worse than a Shredder. It'll only be better in the lategame and at that point you're more likely to be able to deal with it.
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>>135482139
If it is giving only 1 of those at random I dont mind.
>20/20 20 damage battlecry with charge
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>>135482172
i thought patron is cancer ;-;
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>>135482163
Haven't seen fire elemental and Kor'kron elite for a long time.
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>>135482253
>Patron

>kills aggro
>okay matchup vs druid and secret paladin
>killls zoo

>cancer
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>>135482116
-1 belcher
-1 rag
+1 acolyte
+1 slam
Now you got yourself a cheaper but normal control warrior deck
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tfw not gonna make it to rank 5 for the golden epic this month

can't do it mates. im so bored of facing the same 2 decks all day
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>>135482120
But it's still shaping up to be a "play high value minion on curve"-deck.
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>>135482286
Kor'kron is sometimes used in patron and aggro warrior (lel)

Fire Elemental is basically in every shaman deck that isn't aggro
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>>135482303
CW is only good against freeze mage :^)
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>>135482163
you forgot wolfrider
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>>135482324
I see nothing wrong with that.
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>>135482253
All warrior is cancer. It's a common misunderstanding.
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>>135482351
>Fire Elemental is basically in every shaman deck that isn't aggro
So it's in exactly 0 decks right now. Just wanna make that clear.
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>>135482368
a) it's boring and b) the deck with the highest value wins.
Why do you think Secret pala was so good? Not because one of their cards was OP, but because every card played on curve was OP
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>>135482324
I feel like C'thun decks are just going to turn into less consistent Dragon decks at this point with a ton of dependance on drawing the buff cards.
At least we're seeing cards that benefit from a big C and not just add to the well
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>>135482462
shield bot < river crocolisk
muster < unstable ghoul
shredder < tazdingo
Dr6 < enthomb
Boom < Boom
Dr8 < enthomb
:^)
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>>135482420
Totem Shamans masquerading as aggro Shamans still exist anon. They're also shit.
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>>135482491
Well that is part of the problem, you'll basically have to use most of the available C'thun buff minions in order to reliably reach the result you want. Which means you'll have to fill your deck with cards that ultimately do very little until turn 10 and beyond, which will probably leave you pretty far behind on tempo with C'thun as your main recovery mechanic and win condition.

All the C'thun decks will boil down to "Stay alive until I can slap down C'thun and nuke their board with my big fat minion"
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>>135482420
battlecry shaman?
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>>135482562
>Boom < Boom
Thats not how it works.

>>135482491
You might be right. I just don't think it's a particularly interesting mechanic. Definitely not worth deleting half the cardpool for.
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>>135482307
ah shit. this helps. works
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I'm slightly torn over this one.
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>>135454351
>El Shaddoll Winda is a balanced card
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>>135482804
get reno then post 12 wins
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>>135482804
Black Knight can single handledly win you games.
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>>135456123
>Erebus is a balanced card
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>>135482804
TriHard Knight
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well well well, guess who decided to come back for THIS DICK just one more time?

first i sling the fireball to YO FACE then i go 0-3
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>>135483021
Jesus!
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why did massan fuck his shit up so badly.

so what if you get called out on viewbotting, why did he sperge out so fucking hard.

I remember him using some animated furshit camera effect, and then transitioned into no cam with a voice changer

used to be an ok stream desu, now I feel weird going there
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>>135483191
I was surprised to see ratsmah with 4k viewers yesterday, I dunno what is going on anymore.
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>>135483021
Pick some more early game and enjoy your 12 wins
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>>135483191
I pop in every now and then just to cringe at his existence.
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>>135482804

Reno never works in arena, you have to build your deck around 1 ofs and you'll just end up picking shit cards because of it, don't do it. Harrison is the safest bet cause everyone picks weapons.
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>>135483310
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>>135482591
>>135482658
Pirate rogue, casino mage and inner fire priest are decks, too!

not really, though
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>>135483191
what the fuck you weren't kidding

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsY74VwuZgA
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>>135483468
wew
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>>135483468
wolfs and dogs are the ultimate plebs
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>>135483293
fat gook that was never really any good

no wonder he had to viewbot
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This is fucking stupid 2bh
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>>135483021
fucking mexican stole the only old man who loved me, too bad i got dr.2 to literally hit him three times and killed him
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>500 wins with rag
>Don't get a golden majordomo
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Any decent dedicated mill rogue streams? I know there's laughing for freeze mage
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>>135483718
Ryzen
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>>135483718
Ryzen sort of. You will have to put up with his occasional manlet rants.
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>>135483021
the dick btw

i predict 8 wins because im garbago
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fastest deck for this weeks brawl?

I got exams to cram for
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f2p player here

i have barely any cards (only classic cards) but this face hunter deck got me to rank 15 which is more than I can say for the other decks

are there any obvious changes I can make? it's too much work to share all the cards I own so if you could say 2 or so alternatives that would be good
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>>135483851
Zoo
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>>135483636
C'Warrior won't be running much removal besides like 1 copy of Brawl and 2 Executes. This is to give them life gain they wouldn't otherwise have access to from Justicar and Healbot.

It's also 7 mana
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>>135483636

>Blizz keeps adding these battlecries while forgetting about Brann Bronzebeard
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>>135483898
remove cards that don't do immediate face damage
add more cards that do immediate face damage
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>>135483851
the fastest dick is quitting your pyramid scheme undefaultable debt scam that has ZERO jobs and rewards h1b visas and play children's card games slowly like a real man

even prisoners get a hour for lunch
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>>135483898
Replace Bloodfen Raptor with Ooze. It has the same stats for the same manacost, but has a weapon-destroying battlecry.
I know Raptor is a beast, but you have enough other beasts and no beast synergy cards other than skill command anyway.
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>>135483898
Knife Jugglers instead of a mad bomber + 1 alpha wolf
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>>135484007
fucking savage bruh
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>>135483898
just play arena because hunter, agro hunter and secret paly and any other face bullshit is the most boring waste of time and air in existence

real men grind out arena to build that handlock and patron decks
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>>135484007
>>135484086
garbage tier girl
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>>135484037
no jugglers
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>>135484131
behead all those who insult sylphyn
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>>135484007
>ZERO jobs

That's a meme for liberal art students. And dumbasses that go to shitty state Universities.

In my 5th year of a 0-6 Pharm. D program. Already have a job lined up, thanks to school networking and internships. 6 figs, cycling weeks, just like my brother. He lives a great life, literally gets every other week free to do whatever the fuck he wants.

Pays to work hard in high school, plebs.
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Rate shitty OC
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>>135484250
>more combo enablers
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>>135484250
Same but different savagery
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>>135484367
ReVeRsE savagery
and since nobody plays savagery.....
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Better game
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>>135484250

It should say last turn
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>>135484352
>Rogue can't have nice things
You brought this upon yourself
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>>135484445
I think this turn is correct.
You're supposed to attack a big creature with dagger, take ~6 to face and then deal 6 with that card.
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counterstrike oc is boring
post CORRUPTED CARDS FROM NEW SET
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>>135484445
Thought about it, but having your opponent able to control the damage is more like a secret, plus this way it rewards face tanking
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>Corrupted Coldlight Oracle
>Each player discards 2 cards

Please, why can't we have a way to combat combo decks in this game? I just want to make that druid discard his FoN.
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>>135484649
Blizzard doesn't like mechanics that involve forcing cards out of your opponent's hand.

Also, a card like this would only work if Hearthstone were complex enough to have the effect only trigger when you (the person playing it) have at least 2 cards to discard. Otherwise the card would literally become "Play out your entire hand then force your opponent to discard theirs while you lose nothing", which would be a bullshit aggro shitter enabling piece of trash.
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>>135484649
>random discard

Put it in the fucking garbage

Until you can choose what cards to discard this shit has no place in this game.
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fucking finally

i was worried i wouldn't get it because i got 20 in a dungeon
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>>135484876
they patched that bug
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>>135484745
>Blizzard doesn't like mechanics that involve forcing cards out of your opponent's hand.

The thing is that Blizzard also doesn't like combo decks that rely on a specific card combo to kill the opponent from hand.

And then it becomes a problem, because in other card games discard effects are the natural counter to combo-decks. Since there are no effects in hearthstone that target your opponents hand you're almost always guaranteed to get your combo off and that's why combo decks were almost always at the top of the meta in hearthstone.
Decks llike old miracle rogue, old patron warrior before warsong nerf, anyfin paladin and combo druid.
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>>135484824
This is another problem with hearthstone.

Blizzard tried to make warlock discards work, but it will never be playable unless the player can choose what to discard. Blizzard should realize that. Random discard just has way too much potential to completely fuck you over and building a deck around discarding multiple times is a really bad idea as long as this chance to fuck you over remains.
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>Battlecry: Discard a random minion
Discard still risky but more reliable.
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SOMEONE IN NA POST YOUR BNET TAG AND LET ME SPECTATE YOU
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watch & learn
sityak#2475 EU
please add me, let me spectate
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>>135484249
i didnt say it wasnt a pyramid scheme

for every one of you there is like 4 other ATLEAST kids who did go to a stem major but went to a average uni and now cannot find ANY kind of work

its kinda like hearthstone where the top 10% of skill in arena make gold, the rest lose it, except its real like and its for keeps

i dont mind losing in a virtual children's card games, however i do mind losing in real with undefaultable debt and Z E R O job prospects

>"git gud XDDD"
not everyone can git gud, but everyone can opt out of a pyramid scheme
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>>135464749
Gain a random aura. Lasts until cancelled.

>Devotion: At the end of your turn, gain 1 armor.
>Retribution: At the end of your turn, deal 1 damage to a random enemy.
>Concentration: At the end of your turn, reduce the cost of a random card in your hand by 1.
>Resistance: Reduce all damage taken by your hero by 1.
>Crusader: The first minion you summon each turn gains charge.
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>>135484967
It's not that I don't think that opponent discard could work. It would just require a lot of thought and careful costing due to the general rarity of card draw and how quickly you run out of cards in hand in the game.

Simply put card discard would have to be quite expensive, probably twice as much as draw. In addition cards like the one I replied to would never work for reasons I mentioned in my post. Hearthstone's simple mechanics are simply too easy to exploit.

If anything, if you want some kind of way to mess with people's combos then you'd want deck mill. Say a card that forced your opponent to mill the top 3 cards of their deck (like a one time Fell Reaver effect on your opponent).

Still even then the fact that Hearthstone decks only have 30 cards would make it hard to cost (what I suggested would literally be a card that mills 1/10th of your deck, assuming you could run 2 copies that would be 1/5th of their deck total). Deck mill is the best option though, it has a chance to mess with combos without being too impactful by nuking your opponent's hand in a game with barely any card draw.
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>>135484564
Gotcha anon, hot off the presses
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>>135484435
best game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU4OYYqGSzU
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>>135485375
Deck mill might actually be a good idea and I don't think milling 1/5 of their deck is a big deal, similar to how Fel Reaver proccing twice isn't a big deal. Most games don't last until 24 cards are drawn anyway, so in most cases it wouldn't be a big problem. It would be insane in mill decks that try to win by fatigue-killing the opponent, but those decks are meme-tier at best right now, so they could arguably use the buff, maybe 2 cards instead of 3. Make it a semi-expensice minion with absolute garbage stats for the manacost and I think it could work.
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does anyone have a link to reynads rant on last nights stream? that part was muted on the VoD
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>>135485703
Again? Is there a single day without Reynad ranting about something?
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>>135485703
You'll have to be specific about which one
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>>135485671
putting it on a minion would be too strong, things like brahn and shadowstep would break it. It would have to be a stand alone spell. Maybe the first neutral spell?
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>>135485671
See, this is what bugs me about there not being any neutral spells. A minion could be Bran'd in mill decks to absolutely crazy levels of deck mill.

Think about it, even if it was only 2 cards
>Bran
>Minion
>Shadowstep
>Minion
>Shadowstep
>Minion

BOOM! 12 cards gone without even filling your opponent's hand.

On the other hand spells are more fitting for this kind of thing but having a spell like that would make it only viable for one class.

I just kinda wish there were neutral spells to avoid this issue.
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>>135485764
>>135485808
Sorry, from the old thread

>>135448679
>>135448887
>>135449850
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>>135485828
I forgot about Brann and bouncing. Yeah, that could be a problem if it's on a minion.
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>>135485828
>>135485880
Thinking about it - Brann might be a problem in the future.

Prior to LoE battlecries were basically the neutral spells. Blizzard could just slap a powerful battlecry on a minion with low stats and it was basically the same as a neutral spell.

Now that Brann exists that option is limited.
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>>135486256
hes from last year so the card only has 9 months left in its life cycle.Standard really devalues cards. I can't justify spending money on them anymore, espeically since the ones released at the end of the year lose months of value and still cost the same as ones released early on.
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>>135453996
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxY89F5oU-I
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Why is the thread so dead today?
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>>135486383

You still get roughly 12-16 months out of them, and you're just gonna dust em when they rotate out anyway, so why not?

What are you gonna do, just fall behind on the meta trying to get cards exclusively with dust and gold the slow way? Its worth just dumping cash on the pre-order package and playing the set with what you got imo
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>>135483021
i went 2-3

some people are smart, talented, good looking, good at things, and can play childrens card games

and then there are people like me

atleast anime exists
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>>135487137
You get at least 4 months between releases. 16 weeks is enough to save enough gold each time around to get all the usefull cards from the set. I have all of classic except for a few legendaries, and currently have enough gold to buy 40 packs of the next expansion.

It's entirely viable to not spend money and still have all the cards one could need.
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>brawl
>use midrange pala
>win
LOL
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Brawl pack hype
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>>135486926
Too disappointed in Blizzard to bother.
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>>135487274
you deserve it with your shit taste tbqh fampai
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>>135487374
Sure if you've been playing since beta. But for newer players dropping $50 on the new preorder is probably gonna be the only way they can get most of the cards from the expansion in a reasonable amount of time.
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>>135487418
Ragnaros
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Reminder that if you moan about secret pally but dont moan about

>Freeze mage
>Patron warrior
>Druid
>Aggro shaman

Then you're a shitter that just copies what you hear from everyone else. Those 5 decks are the strongest decks in game at the moment and secretdin is nowhere near the top of that list
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>>135484649
We have only 30 cards and no way to get the discarded cards back.
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>Come back to HS
>500g in the account
>I'll just play arena till my gold is gone
>Apparently now I'm good at arena when before I couldn't get more than 5 wins consistently.
>900g after a bunch of 9-3 runs with shitty drafted decks and having missing 2 expansions.
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>>135487446
People starting yesterday yeah, will probably have to buy just this set and some classic packs to be viable. But after that, they can just save gold and wait for the next set. They'll be in the same position as I am.

Hell, I've only started playing last october just before tgt
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>Miss-Read tavern brawl rules, thinking it was "Play a spell and get a minion of the same cost"

>Build mage deck supporting those rules

>Win anyway by a massive land slide
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>>135487459
>Moan about patron warrior
what
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>>135487459
I barely see freeze mages on ladder and I feel like aggro shamans aren't that strong.

I rarely have problems with patron, but that may be because I play warlock. Hellfire and Shadowflame easily ruin both of his patron turns.
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What the fuck is this nonsense?

My arena opponent nearly roped one turn and his portrait just vanished, couldnt target his face any more

Bug or hack?
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>>135478560
did you get it fixed?
same thing jut happend to me
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>>135487631
I encounter freeze mage more than secret paladin.
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There's a tournament at SXSW today. Apparently everyone who just happens to walk by can sign up and Kripp will cast. It starts in less than an hour if I understood that correctly.

Might be fun to see Kripp cast a shieldbearer tournament full of misplays and hopefully meme decks.
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>>135487445
fuck off nerd

i bet u unironically like tsunder character types and think naruto is a good show which doesnt deserve all the distaste it gets
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>>135487753
Whoops, I did mix up the timezones. It's in 6.5 hours.
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>>135487459
Secret paladin is just disheartening to play as or against. It's not the only anti-fun deck in the game and definitely not the strongest, but might be the most stupid one yet.
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>>135487787
Naruto is a gateway anime of the worst kind. It's a bad series, a clusterfuck of story and characterization that isn't very well done by any aspect, but which attempts to compensate for its weaknesses by adding in excessive shipping faggotry and DARKNESS. The normal anon can see this as the shit it is, and may enjoy it, hate it or be indifferent to it, but all the while recognizing that the series itself, regardless of their opinion, is plain bad.
However, these very aspects that try to smear over the shit of its core make it a breeding ground for aspie, unsociable underageb& faggots who engage in every kind of faggotry both online and in the real world. The superpowered characters all trying their hardest to look cool, the jutsus, peculiar, colorful clothes, the whole ninja faggotry and everything about the Naruto world fuels their escapist fantasies, while the pity-party character backgrounds, emphasis on revenge, and overall preachiness of the series make it fit just right with the mary-sueish drives of your average preteen and his sense of unwarranted self-importance towards the world. Exactly the kind of shit that makes little kiddies and underageb& retards eat this shit right the fuck up.
Naruto is basically THE series to attract the most hated anime fanbase known to /a/, which is why, regardless of individual opinions, it is the responsibility of every anon to troll the fuck out of this show and everyone who likes it, and ensure that no Naruto threads ever encourage the newfriends to show their faces here.
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>>135487418
>>135487449

Eh, I suppose I can find a slot for him in a mill deck, right?
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>hmasterfags on my /hsg/
How does it feel being associated with /v/ermin?
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>>135487753
Wait shit, really? I'm actually in Austin.

I'd actually go if my highest rank wasn't 14 and I didn't have like 3 assignments for spring break I'd been putting off. Also I'm pretty sure it'll be a crowded clusterfuck, I'd need to get there super early to try and beat out anyone else looking to play in it since apparently it's only 32 slots.
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>>135488049
Not really anon, I'm sorry. At least it's 400 dust.
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>>135472862
Technically Ogre War Maul is a hammer.
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>>135487787
>if you don't like my moeblob shit you must like naruto!!

You know there's actual good slice of life animes that aren't just oemgee so moe
>>
bets
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>>135472862
the fact he controls the horde doesnt bothers you?
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>>135488289
HOGGER
O
G
G
E
R
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>>135488289
Hemmet 100%
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>>135488289
GRUUL
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>>135488289
Prepare to face MMM
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>>135488117

>Druid beats me effortlessly by playing living roots, wrath, innervate druid of the claw, double keeper of the grove, azure drake, savage roar + living roots to finish

>Doesnt have to even consider contesting the board, wins after playing 9 cards

>Next game
>Redemption haunted creeper literally wins me the game by turn 2


This is why we need standard and those balance adjustments, power creep has gotten to ridiculous levels now, games get decided ridiculously fast

Although in druids case its just plain always been there
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>>135488289
i can wait no longer
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>>135487882
>>135487787
I like naruto, fite me.
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>>135488420

Didnt mean to reply to that post soz anon
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>>135488373
>>135488289

GRONN
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>>135488580
wew lad
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>>135488193
What's your SoL of choice anon?
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>>135488289
deathwing
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>>135488420
The decks are so effective and hearthstone is so simple that the game comes dowm to who gets the better draw. Your opponent may as well not exist as a human player. You're only playing against your own rng.
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Does anyone know how long the casual starting period lasts for new players? I just started playing this game and won 8 times in a row w/ basic paladin deck, am afraid I'll be facing super experienced players soon. For now I'm just facing fellow scrubs, but there must be a set period where that ends.
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>>135488692
Just play ranked. You're better off there then casual
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>>135488623
Cory in the house.
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>>135488692
level 20
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>>135488692
When you play ranked mode, you get a rank and play against people with the same rank. Getting to rank 15 should be braindead easy, except for the wall of farmers you have to fight at rank 20
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So i told him to play turn 6 twilight drake... he actually did it the absolute madman hahahaha!
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>>135488623
Princess Jellyfish desu
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>>135489031
HOW DO THEY ALWAYS GET WHAT THEY NEED
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>>135488623
Jinrui
Yahari
NHK
Girls und Panzer (maybe not technically SoL)

Are all great
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>>135487631

>Freeze mages arent that common on ladder
>Aggro shamans arent that strong

Both of these statements are false anon

Theres a reason both of those decks see more tourney play as well
>>
how do I make this secret fuckadin more reliable? I keep getting absolute garbage opening hands, and I just want my fucking golden epic so I won't have to play this shit meta any longer.
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>>135488859
>>135488895
>>135488984
Alright, ranked modo it is. Presuming absolutely no special cards whatsoever, what rank should I be aiming for?
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>top 2 hearthstone streamers are view botters

twitch please.
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>>135489501
>complains about shit meta
>while playing secret paladin
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>>135489582
I'm here to climb, not to play some ebin meme deck
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>>135489501
the reason it's a ladder star and not played in tournaments is because by nature it's inconsistent.
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>>135489635
what should I ladder with then? what gets me to 5 the fastest?
>>
What do you guys think about my mech/control warrior?
Juggernaut 'cause it feels pretty nice when you see a warlock tapping into a mine
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>>135489716
anything you want bucky
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>>135489628
You and everyone else. Or is it too hard to realise that?
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>>135489716
Secret paladin.
Also, if you don't post yourdick how are we supposed to tell you anything?
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>>135489835
You lost me there
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>>135489543
As a new player 15 probably.
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>>135489635

Its not inconsistent though. Draws are all it relies on, like any deck.

It doesnt see tourney play because, contrary to what everyone parrots on here, reddit and twitch, top tier tourney decks are stronger than secret paladin

The best fast deck in the game is shaman
The best midrange is warrior and druid
The best control is freeze mage and control warrior

Secret pally falls in somewhere 4th-6th place behind those decks depending on the matchup
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>>135489759
>Juggernaut without Brann

Do you even meme?
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>>135489898
Cheers, will do.
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>>135489904
seems about right. Druid it is.
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>>135489892
You'r complaining about shit meta, this is, playing against the same decks all the time while climbing.
While you yourself play one of those decks.
You are literally complaining about yourself.
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>>135489716
you can get to 5 with anything m8.
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>>135489904
>The best fast deck in the game is shaman

I feel like zoo should get a mention too here. It's not a face deck and not quite as fast as shaman, but it is very strong and sees regular tourney play.
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>>135489716
Warlock Murlock ? I mean if you set your bar that low you can do whatever.
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>>135489990
I wasn't really complaining, the meta comment wasn't the point of the post.

>>135490046
I know I know, but I think you should read the post again
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>>135489990
If I play a bad deck instead of a good one though, it won't change the meta a bit.
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>>135490130
Ah, my apologies then. Secretdin should easily get you rank5, dunno how many games it might take though.

>>135490139
But you wont be a hypocrite.
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>>135489369
>NHK
You faggot
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>>135490139
That may be true, but everyone playing the overused decks is thinking the same thing as you. Don't complain about it if you're part of the problem.
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>>135490109

Thats a good point, it is a good fast deck.

Not sure if I'd rate it better or worse than secret pally or aggro shaman. Guess it all depends on matchups, techs and draws
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>>135490190
>no actual argument or criticisms
you contrarian faggot
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>tfw entombing Reno
>actually know when he's safe to play now because of the new glowy border

feels gud.

Yes I know I could just keep track but it's hard to do when I'm playing while I'm tired
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>>135490189
That's basically the same as saying
>don't like the government? Then why don't you just move to another country :^)
Bullshit argument desu.
>>
since when has every warrior been running double brawl?
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>>135490376
I think since patron and secret pala
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>>135490376
For a very long while. Absolutely necessary against anything but other control matchups. Hell, even priests try to aggro cws
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>>135490376
People keep forgetting it's a good card
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>>135490374
Using your analogy, my criticism would be something like
>Dont like the government? Dont vote for them
I didnt say to play a different game
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>>135490376
>tfw sylvanas coin brawl
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I'm sure this has been done a million times before, but I had to make one for my own sake since I can't stop hearing it anyway when listening to the original.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1hkGSKBox3X
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>>135489165
YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT
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>>135490698
Sylvanas shadowflame feels incredible too. Clears everything below 5 health and that one big guy they had, like a sea giant, is yours now.
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>about to crush my opponent's board with an eadric play
>topdeck lethal

oh well
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>>135490619
Stale meta isn't my fault for not gimping myself by playing a bad deck.
It's a design flaw for making a small number of decks considerably more efficient than the rest.
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>>135490907
Renolock is the reason I had to include grom in my deck again. Against every other class you win the fatigue war by default (even against priest if you just don't play anything), but that 6/6 every turn after jaraxxus is just too much
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>the correct play in most cases is to not play anything unless you have 10 cards in hand and just tank up/heal
Control cucks will defend this.
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>>135491065
>tfw about to draw golden monkey that I got from a converted Elise, and I got the convert from Nefarian, and was able to shuffle two maps into my deck with Brann
>opponent concedes

fer shame.
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>>135491145

Are there any warriors that dont run grom these days? He's just an amazing card that does lots of different things. he's a combo finisher, he's removal that leaves a threatening body on the board etc.
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>Have to manually delete 9 useless decks
bit irritated desu lads
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>>135491486

>Tfw playing reno mage and I shuffled 2 maps into my deck with my own brann + elise

>Tfw it killed me because it disabled reno
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>>135491925
Those who dont have one.
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>>135491925
Fatigue warriors don't use him.
>>
Is there something to do with my dust if I just play arena?

Like is any card not going to be craftable in the future or shit like that or is just useless to me?
>>
>walk through an unfinished wow download
>everything lagging because of I'm around 15% downloaded through the client
>ganked by other faction
>finally reach 20
glad to be out of that hell
>>
>>135492197
>all these people who have no idea how to play wow

literally where have you been for the past decade?
>>
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Post 'em
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>>135492307
>pays for a monthly subscription
good
>>
>>135492197
>recruit of shiverz

Trial accounts can join guilds?
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>>135492197
got my ugly elf
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>Holy wrath
>Blessed champion
>Cobalt guardian
>Bolvar fordragon
>Solemn vigil
>Now this
Paladins 5 slot is a fucking joke
>>
>>135492340
I don't play wow anymore but I just cant understand how someone could never have played it once over the last 10 years
>>
What cards are getting rotated out that never got their chance to shine?
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>>135492307
It might come as a shock but 12-year-olds are playing HS and there might even be some in this thread right now.
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>>135492331
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>>135492504
As soon as they added that, it became the most p2w game ever.
>>
>>135492307
But I played runescape
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>>135492596

>playing an exp calculator simulator
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>>135492504
for america its around 35~40k
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>>135492467
>>135492307
I've always thought monthly subscriptions were dumb, I'd rather have spent the money on a single player game back when I was a kid.

Also, putting 3000 hours in TF2 made it my game of choice more than any other, the only MMO I really tried was runescape and that shitty pirates of the caribbean one
>>
egashefo#1168

SOMEONE GIVE PACK

THAT INCLUDES YOU, GUY IGNORING THIS POST
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>>135492801
sent on antartica servers
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>>135492307
I played it, not sure what leads you to believe otherwise
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>>135492479

Undertaker
>>
>play against mage
>t2 unstable portal
>t4 obsidian destroyer

epic.
>>
Damn this salty motherfucker keeps trying to add me.
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>>135493043
any one have screenshots of salty players ?

I need a laugh.
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>>135493127
fuck I forgot to take one of the guy who roped me all game for "selling my soul to the devil" by playing secret paladin.

He played combo druid.
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>Play through both noble sacrifices before dropping mysterious challenger turn 6

>The secret order is much, much better

Hear me out on this guys. Everyone always does a wonky attack order like sending in a small minion first or attacking with their hero to trigger noble sac

With no noble sac, instead the redemption targets were either a keeper, shredder or the mc. Far more valuable redemption targets than mr get down

And people fuck themselves up when they play around noble sac and end up hitting a much bigger minion than they intended, and end up proccing redemption on a shredder or something

Should I be trying to play noble sacs early? Keeping them in my opening hand even?

Its kinda like anti-meta. Everyones figured out the mc secret trigger order, so mix it up to catch people out
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>>135493370
That is kind of the reason I play only one sac in the deck. They never expect it.
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>>135492197
>decides to willingly play a game that's not finished downloading
>bitching that it's not finished
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>>135493231
>people complaining about combo druid

I will never get this
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>>135493659
Combo druid is literally cancer.
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>>135493659
>complaining
I was merely stating he played just as meta of a deck as I did.
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>>135493716
To be fair though, what else do Druids have?

Since they have the combo, Blizzard can't let them have anything else.
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>>135493127
I never add them when I know it's because I got lucky or whatever they're salty about.
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>>135492946
>undertaker
>never shone

:^)
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>>135493127
Used to have a bunch, but when I posted them on here all the shitters threw a fit about it.
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>>135493370
What secrets you keep in your opening handdepends on the rest of your hand and the matchup (their usual early game drops).
I like to keep avenge usually, get down if it can save my two-drop (knife juggler for example), and repentance against a warlock or priest.
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>>135493752
>To be fair though, what else do Druids have?
ramp?
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>>135493127
>>135493127

Translate this kebab rage for me >>135452905
He seemed salty
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>>135493905
Which also uses the combo?

Because it's their only finisher?

Because Blizzard won't let them have anything else until they nerf it?
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>>135492391
>coin dankness
>board wipe
>you activated my trap card
>BOLVAR FORDRAGON
>get your dick sucked by tranny elf
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>>135492479
malorne, wailing soul. every time i tried to play malorne they had him in their sights, it was most frustrating.
>>
>>135493960
Can't they shit out big dudes faster with ramp?
>>
>>135493842
how about
>ignore shitters
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>>135452905
Tried chucking it into google translate - thing says it's most likely Turkish but won't translate it.
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>>135493752
Innervate, druid of the claw and keeper are borderline insane cards.
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>>135493960

No, he means that druids have ramp so that they can cheat the mana curve. Be on turn 8 when you've just taken your turn 6.

But dropping 7 drops on turn 3 that sort of thing.

Thats how druids could be playing. Ramping up, using removal and taunts to stay alive, then dropping big creatures every turn as soon as they can to out muscle and out value the enemy.

Which is why they have stuff like ancient of war, ironbark etc.

Avianna lends herself to this style well
>>
I have 2 wings of LoE and one of BRM.
Is there anything left in either of those adventures if I don't play dragon or meme warrior decks?

Do I burn all my gold on arena now?
> implying I buy packs and don't just play arena since they don't give out GVG packs anymore
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>>135492391
>not playing this and getting turn 6 chromaggus
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>>135494263
>they don't give out GvG anymore

wait is this true? I've been buying packs because I got tired of getting GvG stuff.
>>
>>135493752
>To be fair though, what else do Druids have?

Druid has insane cards, mate.
Druid of the Claw, Ancient of Lore, Innervate, Keeper, Wild Growth.
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>>135494263
the first two wings of BRM have just about everything needed
>patron
>emperor
>gang boss
>gang up
>lava shock
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>>135493960
>Because it's their only finisher?

Why do they need a combo finisher?
What is midrange pallys finisher?
>>
>>135494263

>They don't give out GvG packs anymore

Erm, I just finished an Arena run and got a GvG pack for it
>>
>>135494405
None of those are finishers though. Druid has only the combo to end games.
>>
>tfw standard will kill control warrior
>>
>>135494553

They could try playing minions and finishing people off with them
Or hitting people in the face with spells

You know, like everyone else.
>>
>>135494579
>kill
did you miss the new card anon
>>
>>135494553
That's objectively wrong. They also have a pretty strong curve.
There's a reason why this deck is listest as the best consistently. Every class has their 15 damage finisher.
>>
>>135452905
>>135494140

Tried again - needed to actually be on their website instead of the little window in google.

It's mostly just assmad swearing that can't be properly translated because I'm too lazy to throw in umlauts.

Basically he called you a cunt faggot.
>>
>>135494749
CW is fine even without the new meme card. /hsg/ loves to shout overpowered or dead at the stupidest of times.
>>
>>135494553
>None of those are finishers though. Druid has only the combo to end games.

This may surprise you, but you don't need a finisher that kills the opponent from 10+ HP.
>>
>>135494749
Not him but link please
Can't find any new card that would seem to be fit for CW
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>>135494832
Fuck. Forgot the pic.
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>>135494943

>>135452541

sure you need to make it a cthun cw but whatever
>>
>>135494749
the shield maiden? i kinda think its hard to pull off
>>
Murloc Shaman is actually fun lol
Not as viable as Murloc Paladin tho
>>
>>135494579

C'thun Warrior though anon

The 7 mana 6/6 "Battlecry: If your C'thun has at least 10 attacking gain 10 armour" is gonna be legit as fuck
>>
>>135494510
midrange pally is shit. there's a reason it's not played

>>135494681
>like everyone else
so it's clear you dont even play the game. who is everyone else? every top tier deck has a finish in some style. whether it's burn cards or chargining minions. this utopia that people dream of, trading minions while gradually getting the board, is the most boring possible playstyle imagineable.
>>
>>135494934

secret pally is the only upper-tier deck that I can think of that doesn't often end a game with some type of burst
>>
>>135495145
1 good AoE and you'r dead, no?
>>
>>135495147
Ancient memebearer, anon
Not hard to remember.

So this, "if your C'thun has 10 attack" triggers when you haven't even played him, right? Otherwise this ability is next to useless.
>>
>>135495067
>10 armor
Holy shit, cthun warrior could work
Just drop yeti stat spread minions all day then use your removal spells to protect them
>>
>>135495067
You can't include average small minions in your deck and expect cw to still be a thing. It needsrremoval and several big threads
>>
>>135495229
>>135495216
The druid combo burst is incredibly unreasonable though. It wouldn't be too bad if it was fixed 14, but as it is now you can never let a single one of their minions live, which is incredibly hard since they only play sticky bullshit.
Then you're looking at 20+.
Shit is super broken.
>>
>>135494950

We must remove, too much salt
>>
>>135495393
Kinda useless to speculate now, for all we know there might be removal which buffs your cthun.
>>
>>135495296
Pretty much, but when it works swarming your enemies with fishes is pretty cool
>>
>>135495413
No one's saying it's not, but for now it's literally all Druid has because Blizzard painted themselves into a corner when they made the class. If they added any proper, balanced finishers while the combo exists they'd just get abused with the combo even harder.

If they had any sense at all they'd destroy the combo with the upcoming changes and give them a more balanced finisher of some kind.
>>
>>135495619
10 mana 8/8 with charge, costs 1 less for each beast minion you have on board?
>>
>>135495216

No other character has such a reliable high damaging burst finisher, thats the point. A mage can spend 3 cards (Double fireball, 3 mana roaring torch) to deal 18 damage, with setup if they've already used forgotten torch

Druids deal 14 damage with 2 cards no setup and no board, or 22 damage with any combination of combo + innervate to use the extra savage roar, double savage roar + FoN after a single emperor tick, or hell just have any sort of minion on the board to add 4-6 average damage to the combo


Its the "Leave a single minion on druids board, die at 25 hp" part that people dont find fair

Regardless of your opinion, you're in the minority, most people agree its bullshit, thats why its getting nerfed and druids will actually have to find a different way to play
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Why does Blizzard print cards like this, do they really just run out of ideas or something?
>>
>>135495762
I think it's too similar to krush.
I'd be happy though if they pushed the beast synergy more
>>
>>135495323

>Ancient /hsg/ poster

Ahh how could I forget

And yeah all the of the C'thun synergy effects come into play regardless of where C'thun is. Unless he's already died, might not work then.
>>
>>135496076

That card is their idea of slowing the meta
>>
>>135495971
Not saying you are wrong, but spells bypass taunts.
>>
How is Renolock even playable?
The decks curve seems way too high, you always fall behind early unless you draw hellfire or the few earlygame minions you have.
>>
>>135496076
I'd imagine it's really hard to make a balanced low mana minion
>>
as a CW player. i really dont like cthun deck. Hope they will just add a good weapon.
>>
>>135496260
>>135496260
>>135496260
>>135496260
>>135496260
>>
>>135496301
3 mana 4 2
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>playing some retarded control/beast synergy hunter deck I'm working on
>mage polymorphs one of my non-beasts and never kills it
>tfw I get free synergy on ram wrangler, Houndmaster and Kill Command within two turns for lethal
>tfw his own polymorph fucked the game for him
>tfw a 3/3 sheep with taunt bashed his brains in for lethal

This deck is fucking awful but sometimes it works.
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>>135496420
that shit will be nerfed
>>
>>135496420
4 mana ia tgr the sweetspot. Turn 2 axe strike, turn 3 2nd strike, turn 4 second weapon
>>
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>>135491359
go pay blizzard more money so u can build your hunter deck, im sure after every game at rank 16 u spaz out shit like "ugh, he got so lucky, this game is all rng and takes no skill"
>>
>>135496196
Yeah it's hardly even viable anymore. the meta is getting faster and faster, most of the time you have to reno way before turn 10. If you make it to Jaraxxus against non-otk decks there is a slight chance, but Renolock is by no means a t1 deck anymore. Not even t2 probably.
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>>135496301
4 mana 4/2, deal 1 damage to the minions adjacent to your target
>>
>>135496076

*Muffled Ben Brode HAHAHA in the distance*
>>
>>135496076
bad cards exist so blizzard can release a set with 130 cards instead of 40
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