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We need to fall in order to get up again.

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Old, thrice-cursed thread: >>135187723
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I don't know, /rlg/ has been one of my favorite places these last couple of years, and then this happens... I just want things to go back to normal.
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>>135409203
I'm sorry anon. Someone higher than us wants us to become dumb bimbos who can't remember to post.

And he loves to see us struggle.
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>>135409410
Well, I hope he's happy. Don't have a lot to wake up for these days and /rlg/, pathetically enough, was one of the reasons I even bothered to turn on my computer.
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>>135409742
>was
Man up and post some roguelikes.

I would but I've been impatient and fucking up everything the last few days. Threw my best ever run of Brogue because I was impatient.
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Someone last thread was asking about the range of fungal blooms, and you can see it by making a world and using the show hordes debug command.

Turns out it's pretty large, as all the dashes aside from the squares out in the swamp are fungal spawns.
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Let's see where this will bring us.
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>>135410054
Oh wow, that is really neat. I don't mess around with debug often enough. I wonder why they spread out in that pattern, or if every spire spreads out like that. Needless to say, I have to move even farther away from where my current character is to avoid that cancer.
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>>135411059
>I wonder why they spread out in that pattern, or if every spire spreads out like that.
Well, this is turn zero, so they probably generate randomly in a range around the spire and then move around on their own.
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Yeah no thanks.
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I'm a complete shitter, what's a good early skill order for an OpTr?
be as specific as you can, things like:
>Level transmutations to 5
>Then train Unarmed combat to X
>Once you reach level Y, focus on Fighting until you reach lair
Some step-by-step babby tier instructions would be ideal, thanks in advance dudes.
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Pakistan is a much better option.
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>>135411819
The curse strikes again.
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>>135410054
that's nothing. I've had fungal spores spawn 70 maptiles away from the source.

Nowhere is safe.
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Gee Bill, how come your mom lets you have two gods?
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>>135412063
>>135411280
>>135411046
>>135413049

AKTIVER.
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>>135411280
it's D3 and you're shitting on free vehumet with piery?
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>>135413049
Get fucked
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>>135413049
Is it really happening?
Or is this some hack or branch of sorts?
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>>135413357
Nah I abandoned Vehu and his wrath was a cloud of noxious fumes. Luckily for me I have poison resistance so I can, if unintentionally, take advantage of it.
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>>135413152
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So far this is going more than well. Even managed to find the OctoTrident.
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>>135414902
AKTIVER.
REFUGEE.
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DDA
>tfw stronger alcohols are useless for battle because are strong enough to give you dexterity debuff in one drink.
Dammit
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Vanilla or Shattered?
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>>135414902
anon how many bodies have you seen irl
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>>135415709
>tfw stronger alcohols are useless for battle because are strong enough to give you dexterity debuff in one drink.
Alcohols are only good for crafting molotovs and bandages.
And I STILL don't know what homemade alcohol is good for. You can't do anything but drink it.
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>>135415865
Uhh... I think three? I think I'm missing a joke here.
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>>135415712
wrong pic lmao
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worst gadget boutique ever

/acid is good at least, but I already have one
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>>135416202
>Trump's gadget boutique
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
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>>135416416
he'll use the profits from this shop to build a wall between Orc and Elf
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>>135416001
>Alcohols are only good for crafting molotovs and bandages.
Weaker alcohols (like cheap wine or other that are quenching thirst) are good because they give you 1 str buff and some pain reduction without cons.
But yeah, rest seems to be good only for molotovs and bandages.
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>>135416510
>they give you 1 str buff and some pain reduction without cons.
The cons is that if you drink alcohol more than one unit of alcohol 8 hours apart from one another, the game is going to call you an addict.
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>>135416202
Iceblast is always underrated,
Also, no one for >>135411480?
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Off to a good start, what with the starter npc attracting a horde and shooting me in the back.
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Rupert is on Lair:8 (with a 46% chance to paralyse me) and the only MR in my game is a single cloak and a single robe, and since I'm Ash I'd have to burn my last ?removecurse and lose my armor bonus to equip them.

I've already gone through Orc and all of D and I ain't found shit. Do I just skip the loot in Lair:8?
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>>135417394
don't you have multiple stairs? just use them
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>>135417601
I'm a fucking EE if I actually fight any of the shit I will attract the whole level with noise and end up paralyzed next to a pack of dire elephants.
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It just gets better and better.
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>>135417242
Is there some way to reduce the amount of NPC's running around? I turned off that mid-game spawning option thing, but I still end up tripping over 5-6 different NPC's per day. It's just damn annoying at this point.

>"DROP THE WEAPON"
>"Hi"
>From the northeast you hear a bang x23
>"DROP THE GOD DAMN WEAPON"
>Flamethrower intensifies

Every god damn time. At least I never run out of nails.
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>>135416809
anon your elections aren't even real what are you worried about
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>>135419104
>options
>current world
>npc spawn rate scaling factor
I would assume, anyway. I've never messed with it.
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>>135417394
okay apparently Rupert is a tard. He saw me and immediately went berserk instead of casting paralyse and then I stomped him into the dirt with haste + iron shot
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>>135419104
>Is there some way to reduce the amount of NPC's running around?
Only at chargen. You poor soul.
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Are ponyposter jokes still ok after his mental breakdown here?

Also, since all the IVAN wins, the troll archmage guy, a shitload of PCB Rune Knight wins including the Nighmare one, that one dynahack tourist win, one MuMo win, a good chunk of DDA posting and possibly the nethack autist were all that guy savescumming or otherwise cheating to hell and back, what thread culture do we have left that the guy hasn't shitted up somehow?
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>>135420863
FUCKING
CRAWL
DEVS
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>>135420863
Talking about Dredmor.
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>>135416809
I looted a whole liquor store, so I'm fine.
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>>135420863
Can anyone recap what happened? I don't want to misinterpret something.
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>>135421130
FUCKING
MOUNTAIN
DWARVES
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>>135420863
>one MuMo win
his best was 3 runes
unless he's Implo
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>>135421628
Someone made a ponyposter joke for the umpteenth time and he melted down by admitting he was secretly half the fucking thread all along and posting all his wins, then describing how he had cheated on them. Then he spammed pony porn to get banned. Again. Then he ban evaded to ask the mods to delet e the pony pictures, and mentioned that he was going to post CP if that didn't work.

He also admitted he did it all for attention, and that he's currently going to therapy which seemingly isn't working all that well.

Look for the thread in the archives, the mods post-humously deleted all his posts.
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>>135411480
unarmed to ~6 (5.6 at a minimum), transmutations to however high it needs to be for ~20% failrate spiderform. After that, nudge fighting/dodging/transmutations up a few levels at a time, then take unarmed to 12 for .8 auts per attack+higher damage, then take fighting/dodging/transmutations up again, and so on.

You're not really a mage, you're a hitdude that uses MP. Really, you could get some ideas on how to skill from watching MuMo players.
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>>135421628
some idiot went apeshit and posted pony porn and kept getting ban evading
apparently he's the autist that shitpost about DDA in every thread and played most of the meme wins in the general
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>>135422063
>>135422116
Thanks.
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>>135422063
>>135422116
I don't understand.
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>>135421130
I still want my Paladins and Death Knights back.
:^(
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>>135422063
My favorite part was all the posters trying to talk him out of his hissyfit. It was like watching people try and talk an unhinged addict out of jumping.
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>>135422076
Around 2 levels of poison magic and the rest on transmutations can be faster for access to spider form. Particularly on merfolk since their apt for poison magic is good and their transmutation is even better.
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friendly reminder that I still post shit here and am not a pony poster or a cheater (but I was octodragon guy who people still remember somehow)

look at this, all 3 of these guys spawned within 5 tiles of each other somehow

I'll show you guys some more fun splats if I get any too
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>>135422316
If you don't know who ponyposter is, the hang of it is that a month or two ago some dude was posting his Dredmor run. This made a certain poster get REALLY SALTY and eventually he started posting pony porn, which got him banned. The mods also deleted all the posts attached to his IP. Someone checked the archives and that revealed the guy was responsible for a good amount of the shitposting on the thread, and that he had turned samefagging into an art form. Since then he was turned into a meme/boogeyman who was regarded as the source of all the evil in the world (not too far off).

Then, confusingly, he started pretending to be a guy who pretended to be ponyposter and was really butthurt towards him and mimicking himself on insulting ways. Then he tried to trick people into thinking that guy (the fake ponyposter imitator) had figured it out by saying that ponyposter had samefagged the whole ponyposter name and meme, shortly before his breakdown.
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I did bring it up in therapy. I mean, I explained it while being vague, the whole point is that I got angry at someone and de-vauled a lot of achievements. But anyway.

This is a look at the fire station with 7.3 spawns density.

How horrifying.
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>>135423827
even the mightiest among us will succumb to the curse
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>>135423827
YOU WILL NOT PASS
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>>135423827
I wonder who started the curse meme honestly. I don't remember.

>>135423741
>Then he tried to trick people into thinking that guy (the fake ponyposter imitator) had figured it out by saying that ponyposter had samefagged the whole ponyposter name and meme, shortly before his breakdown.
That was truly a piece of art, I have to admit.
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>>135423741
Man I never did understand why he even bothered with that. Shitposting is one thing, samefagging is another thing. But that meta-shitposting-samefagging chimera of his, it was pointless.

Once you pass the level of samefaggotry, it's all just noise in the thread.
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y helo thar
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2 of them
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I'm pretty sure there's like 50 more guys in the main hall, but still I think I can lure them 1vs 1.
The starting gear is encumbering, but pretty good.
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Hi im new here, what do you guys think of barony? Its kinda low on content for a roguelike but it somehow captures the atmosphere of a real roguelike in a first person perspective. Which I think is a great effort.
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>>135425360
We don't discuss Barony here. Try /indie/ or /v/.

Sorry.
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>>135425360
its ok but it doesn't match up too the best roguelike of all time, Dark Souls
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>>135424561
>duelwielding
I wish: Formicids would be even better, mages could channel while they spam spells, axes might become good, my merfolk would finally live up to their name, and bucklers would become less mandatory.

It would be fun.
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>>135426119
>>135426036
You guys are mean :'(
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>>135426409
I actually tried to tell you to fuck off as nicely as possible in my post and you still act like a retard?

Fuck off.
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They actually weren't as many as I thought they'd be.

I took a look outside though and it's hell.
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>recruit npc
>he's not doing so well
Will splints work to recover his legs?
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That's a shitton of armor.
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>>135427290
Just amputate them and get a wheelchair.
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>>135411480
Don't listen to these clowns, you always always rush spider form first, because if you focus XP, you can get it reliably castable by XL5, especially with octopode's superb poison aptitude.

Spider form gives you:
>roughly +8 EV
>UC damage bonus
>UC to-hit bonus
>UC poison brand on top of damage bonus
>DEX bonus, which also increases your to-hit
>increased stealth from DEX and 'tiny' size

all this at XL 5, compared to if you pumped UC till XL 5. So, I recommend this:

>enter dungeon
>XL1:
>turn off all skills except transmutations
>XL2:
>memorize sticks to snakes, continue training only transmutations
>XL3 and beyond:
>memorize spider form
>turn off all skills except poison
>keep an eye on poison skill, once it is equal to transmutations, train both skills until spider form is under 20% or so
>switch skills back to fighting, UC, dodging until you feel you need to learn ice form/blade hands

Also just some subjective opinion, I think transmuters should worship Chei
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>>135419364
lucker
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any halfling sling user tips?
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>>135429592
yeah, I got some advice, at least it's what seems to work for me

>D1:
>ctrl+Q
>turn off comp
>kill yourself

I hate halflings, and slings fall off too fast and don't crosstrain for shit
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Bodies still can't be used as combustible.
It's kind of annoying, but I guess it makes sense. I mean, it's blob-drenched rotting flesh, not really stuff that burns easily.
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>>135429592
>>135429946
yeah make a kobold assassin instead you faggot
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>>135429592
Level only slings until mindelay. Then train defenses.
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halflings are the tankiest characters in the game

eventual goal: become a massive wall of AC, EV and SH while slowly tickling enemies to death with your sling

luckily the game drops more stones than anyone could ever use so even if it takes 100 shots to kill a single enemy you won't run out
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also worship grampa Oka in the hopes of getting a sling that actually does damage
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>>135431562
Eh. Halfling Slingers are great because you can get to mindelay by D4-5 easily on a ranged weapon with effectively infinite ammo.

This carries you until you can get stuff that actually scales online like Longblades, charms, and god powers.

Using a sling past lair/orc is kind of shitty though.
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>>135431562
If you think AC, EV, and SH is useful late game you are retarded. None of those do anything against hellfire, torment, death curses, starcursed mass, smiting, etc.etc.etc.

If any of those are saving your life you've made a tactical mistake or a shitty build. The most important statistic is HP and the only replacement for HP is stealth or the ability to kill first. Halflings are complete shit that should be removed cause we already got kobolds.
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Is vampirism still useful for Hell & stuff? Or do I need to switch now my axe is my only source of rC and warlocks shield was fun in elves
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>>135432383
That's not late-game, that's some parts of extended, which is stupid and even more terribly designed than regular crawl.
>smiting
Smiting does nothing once you get a wand of digging, learn positioning and get a decent amount of HP to soak up that max 17 damage per smite.

Also, it sounds like you're trying very hard to sound like a good player.
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>>135432383
>The most important statistic is HP

yes of course, and for this reason ogres are considered extremely strong while gargs' -20% hp means they're shit-tier

oh wait
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>>135432976
you're trying to talk back to me and you think a normal ascension is fucking anything? you think this shit game is actually fucking hard on it's own terms? if you're not willing to play for score or win with a challenge race and background, then you've fucking done nothing, and you are nothing.
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>>135432383
>>135433281
Today on /rlg/, Internet Tough Guy: "Mad about Midgets."

More at 6!
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>>135433281
Hahaha sorry internet tough guy, I didn't realize you were a navy SEAL with over 200 confirmet wins.

No, what you said was wrong. I corrected it. Call it a nitpick, but ditch all those supposed implications your crippling insecurity made you pack into my post.

And it still sounds like you're trying too hard. Harder than last post, even. I hope you also know the e-sports fags you're trying to mimic are also hated here for being the main reason the game has gone to shit.
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>>135433281
>autism

go win a real roguelike like PCB
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Oh cool this is a new layout.
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jeeeeesssuuuuusssss chroist
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>>135433548
I'm angry at you for being mediocre anon. I'm angry at you for thinking fun is an acceptable goal or motivation. You're speaking like a fucking casual on /rlg and it makes me sick.
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>>135433882
10/10 got me good
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>load bearing windows

The memes were real.
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>>135433789
>I saw a shocker brute upstairs
Better think up a new character... just in case.
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>>135434408
zombies can't see shit at night thankfully
but the problem is that I had to leave the cart with my scavenged supplies in that home I just ran away from
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>>135433840
>Ancestral memories of Jackie Wang fill your vision
>Chei smiles as history loops repeats!
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>>135433840
That's what you get for not wearing "air
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I've heard that someone was combining all the best parts from the various versions of Crawl into one release. Is this true? Will I be able have Singularity-spamming Djinni of oldMahkleb? Axe-wielding Mountain Dwarves? Fireball-spamming Artificers?
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>>135439239
no.

/rlg/ talks about *wanting* that sometimes, but nobody's actually coding it
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hella chei-zerking
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>>135441354
>Not a berserking chei dragon
You've lifted anon, but you still have gains to make.
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>ctrl+f zoopy

no one watches zoopy joobles here? for shame.

his youtube stuff is so comfy
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>>135442117
I still have good feels from stomping down Cerebov with my Octodragon
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>>135442405
Yes. Clearly no one here watches it because it was not mentioned by one of 23 people within 110 posts.
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>>135442405
>Old guy playing crawl and commentating.
Nice. I mostly watch dck, dfuxa plays, sil streamer and waervyn's world for when I'm in the mood for roguelikes but have to to something else. Truthfully, we never talk about youtube playthroughs. You can ctrl+f dck and not come up with anything in most threads, let alone some random dude playing crawl.
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Page 10 bump.
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So is there any reason to ever go beyond abyss 3?
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>>135445910
To slay the hydrataur on the abyssal stair.
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>>135445910
There's an experimental branch that changes Abyss to 4 levels with the rune only on 4 and the exit only on 1.
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>>135446003
>Hydrataur
>Hoof attacks that bypass AC
>Each head has instinctive headbutt counters
How horrifying.

>>135446076
I guess that means it wouldn't be an easy 3rd rune.
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>>135445910
a greater possibility of generating high level artefacts and useful supplies, also a higher rate of generating rune vaults, gates deeper, as well as abyss exits, and also a higher rate of generating deadly hordes of monsters

I'll also tell you that every turn you spend on a floor makes it progressively more dangerous, and if you get stuck wandering aimlessly or scumming in Abyss:3, it'll eventually become both less profitable and more dangerous than Abyss:4
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>>135446252
No no. The hydrataur is a horse(fastmove) with 13 necks, each ending in a human torso who throws javelins. It is subject to head chopping rules.
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>>135446314
I've never really felt like abyss 3 gets super dangerous. How long do you have to spend there for it to really ramp up? Abyss: 4 and 5 are a constant state of getting fucked by nexus crabs and cancer stars that I've never really seen in 3.
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>>135446789
Starcursed mass can and WILL kill ANY character if you let the spawn rate get high enough in the abyss.

There used to also be the danger of death from status damage, luckily that's not such an issue anymore.
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>disassemble chipped knife spear
>recover all the parts
>craft again
>it's fully repaired
It's magic.
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>>135446756
Please no.
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>>135445910
yeah, so you spend less time looking for the rune/for an exit
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>>135446756
they need to buff it and give it hellfire immunity, chopping it's heads off is too easy for cheigargs with 50 AC/SH
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>>135446756
What if.
Killing it unlocks abyss 6
With the HYDRATAUR WIZARD OF TROGONU, IT SUMMONS BERSERKING ABYSS CREATURES, CAN CAST HASTE
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>get ambushed by an npc with a short bow while out to get toilet water
Pretty sure the only reason I won the fight is that I had a filter mask to block his tear gas and he didn't.
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dcss

(new) +5 quarterstaff or an (old) +2 dagger of protection (+5 AC) on a caster?
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>>135449468
Both. Keep the quarterstaff for bashing dudes, keep the dagger for when invisible horrors and ranged guys start pounding your asshole.
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A-Always Acquire Armor...

jk I asked for a wand right before this and got hasting, I didn't think it would work twice though

love them ossuaries
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>>135449932
woah holy shit nvm switching to chei now
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>You fail to craft the X, and waste some materials.
Is there a worse feeling? It takes quite a while to grind the material for some of these recipes, and you somehow destroy fucking everything.
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>>135450490
it would be less retarted if cdda actually told you what your success rate would be
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Sick play-by-play of one of the fastest runs ever recorded. Total turn count of 9786
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>>135450113
JESUS CHRIST WHAT THE FUCK

YEAH OBVIOUSLY I'M NEVER GOING TO EVEN THINK OF REMOVING IT
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>>135451467
leddit poster detected

go upvote posts about FTL or whatever it is you people do
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>>135451646
>le leddit

am I le triggering you faggot? :^)
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reddit is not a roguelike :^)
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>>135451421
I'm surprised there isn't a better crafting success rates trait actually.
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>>135452486
>>135451970
>>135451646
Come on, pony poster. Give it a rest. That sapher post and ALL of that guys posts (He does a turn by turn for a 1 kill DD of Friendship playthrough too) are fucking quality.
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>>135453423
Yeah, he's better at crawl than anyone here. The fucking epitome of /rlg/ good players is what, dicks?

What a joke. Maybe if these faggots spent less time complaining about le reddit and more time playing the game there'd be more than 1.

On the other hand that guy is a furry, sooo. Maybe it balances out.
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What the fuck do I do about swamp wurms now that they can walk on land and murder the shit out of me?
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>>135454940
They're strong, but they aren't that bad. Use a blowgun and poison needles to absolutely wreck them.
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>>135454940
swam worms in crawl? they're complete chumps just hold tab at them

the only danger is that they can hide in water and pop out to gangbang you, but that's only a risk if you follow the badplayer behavior of running at enemies instead of waiting for them to come to you
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>>135453912
It's dicks and implo to be fair. You can't get much better than them without eating, drinking and breathing crawl 24/7, which is what the best players do. And they're not that much better.
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>>135453912
Implo and VinniePaz both beat MuMo while dicks didn't/
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k so which rune would you guys go for first?

I'm hoping for snek but I didn't find it on the way down
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>>135456648
spider>snake>swamp>shoal>slime
why do they all start with s in the lair
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>>135456648
>3 EV
>Wore the CPA without chei's gains
Veronica please. Branch order kind of depends, but I usually go Swamp > Spider > Shoals > Snake.
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It's been many months, friends. How are we on the quest to find a good game that does not look like a keyboard? I remember something that looked decent in a japanese way before I had to go on tour.
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>>135456648
I've been wondering for a while, are you actually called veronica?

Also, is your octopode still alive? You should at least have the decency to ascend that thing already
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>>135457172
Could be Elona, One Way Heroics, LiSA or whatever that porn game was called or maybe Cata:DDA on tiles mode.

Also, you should get updated on the thread's lastest drama and memes.

>>135423741
>>135422063
>>135422214

This is the tale of great Ponyposter, the shitposter who was banned and posts again, the Samefag of /rlg/, the eight-faced man.
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hey cerebov, mind if I drop in to take a look at that rune?
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>>135457876
The porn game is Maidensnow, but I'm not sure what letters are and aren't capitalized.
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>>135457876
Forgot one post
>>135422116
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>>135457912
Snake, watchout! That is the pandemonium lord Cerebov, which means "Never ending fire." His name is no joke, as he can weave great fire storms. Try not to get hit by his sword either, as it carries fell magics that will sap your resistance to fire. Thankfully, he isn't too smart. Why don't you try hitting him from across the lake?
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>>135458946
What language is his name in?
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Is it worth it to wear amulet of harm in DCSS?
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>>135458946
he was pretty hospitable when I visited, he even let me borrow the rune

also
well well well, this is what I get for diving dungeon floors, I just completely missed this potion of experience
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>>135459214
Snake, as you know, Cerebov resides in his own personal realm of Pandemonium. Cerebov is a powerful spell weaver and wears heavy armor, so be careful. Your silence scrolls will have no effect on him, as he speaks the glyphic language of higher beings, which is partially spoken by gesture. Attacking him head on may be fool hardy, and might result in you getting hurt or even killed! Snake, promise me that you won't fight him if you don't have to! Remember that you only need to get the rune. Do you want to save your progress?

>>135459776
no.
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statuesnake of cheibriados is way too strong, I just walked up to each pan/hell lord and punched them to death with little else but statue form and bend time
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>>135459776
generally no

if you're a melee otabber enemies will die faster but do the same damage to you before they die, plus it'll make you squishier to ranged attackers

if you're a blasty caster it lets you kill stuff with less mana but it also makes your already-squishy ass even squishier and you'll get oneshot by an OOD cyclops or something

it's maybe worthwhile IF you have tons of defenses but shitty damage, but that's not a problem DCSS characters tend to have
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You feel clumsy. x2

LEAVE ME ALONE
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>>135457876
It was the porn one. Such a waste of good looking assets... no not those kinds of assets. *facepalm self*
That Ponyposter sounds almost inspirational. I mean, that's a lot of time and effort to gain absolutely nothing. Like a paragon of bloody retardness.
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>>135460343
Good job mate. You ascend really fast! My 15 runers always take 9 hours or so.
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>>135460119
Seriously, how do you know his name is "never ending fire"?
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ELVEN RUNE FIRST!
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>>135460730
he made it up
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>>135460461
Thanks man, it went really fast because that combo is really strong and I got perfect equipment real early on. Friggin hat of the alchemist just laying on the ground. Reminds me of that scripted sequence in Morrowind when that tinkering sorceror falls out of the sky and splats right in front of you, leaving you 3 acrobatics fortification scrolls
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>>135447890
How much HP do Cataclysm NPCs have nowadays? You dealt ~200 damage to him in that screen alone and I feel that the picture provided is not the whole message log.
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>>135461610
I think they do the same thing as players where they have separate hp for each limb, and your attacks just damage a random limb
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>>135461812
Huh, humans are actually pretty durable when you put it that way.
Never thought about it like that. Possibly because the only things that can hurt you either damage only one part of the body or damage all of it at once.
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>>135462226
People often die by slipping in the shower, but there's been many cases of people surviving literally falling off planes midflight. You have Rasputin and then you have people who have to live in fear of accidentally swallowing a peanut.
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>>135462629
Oh yeah, one case that would be considered unrealistic in a videogame but actually happened was that guy who was struck by lightning 7 times in his life, and was attacked by bears some ridiculous amount of times as well. He developed a fear of clouds.
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>>135463005
Yeah, he was a park ranger right?

His colleagues began refusing to be near him during storms. Which is stupid really. The safest place would be near him if the lightning was more likely to strike him.
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>>135409203
>>135409410
This happened last year as well with little consequences.
Difference being nobody played along with them.


Are DF singleplayer /rlg/ approved now?
/dfg/ barely has any.
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>>135463457
Sure.
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>>135460743
going down to slime as 4th rune while it's close

I also want to mention how much I really like the name of this morningstar (and it's enchantments)
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>>135465593
one of my favorite uniques showed up
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CDDA poster, I appreciate you
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>>135466484
which one?

>>135466207
Doesn't really sound familiar. Definitely sounds like a sandbox, almost like rune factory. But that isn't roguelike, as fun as it is.
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>>135466789
the one who's been posting for the last few threads
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>>135465980
ok I'm dead

it was fun while it lasted though

I basically underestimated the new corrosion mechanics to my own peril and wasn't able to kill acid blobs reliably enough

I'm not that upset though, I can't say I loved my mutations, my character had no personality and was basically just their equipment

yes

I think I feel good right now
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>>135467181
Weird how splatting feels both good and bad, isn't it?
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>>135467514
Oh I pretty much did it on purpose, like I know how hard slime is, I was just pissed off at the RNG basically perverting my character build and turning me into a tab-beast javelin thrower, and I wasn't having any of that not in control of my own destiny shit no sir

I was basically pretty pissed from the exact moment I couldn't find a chei alter in the temple after searching for altars/temple for like a thousand turns
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>>135466893
If you mean the clumsy Snake who built his truck backwards, drove it for 2 miles and splatted immediately by getting slammed into the truck, thanks. I hope my sad splat amused you. I'm still mad that I never got to drive that truck. There was even a trunk full of seeds next to the driver seat, little dreams that will never sprout.

>>135467181
RIP. New corrosion is really rough and slime is basically where Tablords go to die. I feel you on that feeling though. I'm sitting on an elf blaster that has 1 rune because the character is so empy.
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>>135467982
every altar is guaranteed to be somewhere before D:9

it was probably in some upstair vault
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>>135468129
that's exactly the thing, I wasted so many turns searching up and down stairs to even find the temple that I was just like fuck it I guess we just ain't takin it easy this time
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>>135468340
just use X and [ ] to look at other levels you dope
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>>135468432
It was in a blacked out portion of the map smart guy. You think you get turn counts like that while resting and using auto-explore? Sad thing is I wasn't even doing that good. I was perfectly set up for Deep Dwarf or something, not fucking DsAs
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>>135469056
ah fair enough I didn't realize you were speedrunning
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>Nuclear throne general has 500 posts
>there was a binding of Isaac general with 3
/rlite/ soon hopefully.
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>>135423741
I completely understand.
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>>135469798
there's already an indie games general
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>>135453423
You know that's not me anon
You know my posting times better than anyone
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>>135470184
Just a jape my friend. Sorry for triggering you so hard that one time. I hope you find peace with whatever ails you. What've you been playing recently?
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I can't believe how zombies fucking waltz in and out of houses. Like, fucking hell there is only ONE brute and I've seen ten houses completely destroyed because of fallen rubble. Hell, a couple survivor zombies just smashed a fucking wall to get me.
I think I'm gonna up the basic wall strength from 20 to 30 in the jsons because that makes no bloody sense. Only brutes and beyond should be able to smash house walls.

I think
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>>135470824
I feel the same way. One thing I hate about playing high population worlds is that the inner city is always completely fucked. No buildings, all the cars are wrecked. Everything has perfect LoS because of it and its awful.
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>>135470770

City size 10 spawn rate 7.3 firefighter winter start.
It's fun for now, but I'm pretty sure that I'll never get out in broad daylight for a couple seasons. I saw a shocker brute and some masters /necromancers just when I wanted to get out to grab my cart.
The building south of here is a 6x6 diamond completely full with zombies.
The firefighter station is pure brick and metal doors so nothing short of a jabberwock can breach it, but I'm beginning to worry that a hulk or even a shocker brute could destroy the metal doors.
Also that whinch takes 5 turns to activate and makes a ton of noise.
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Also it should be noted that having so many zombies around slows the game a lot when you're trying to read something. I don't know if it's because I'm on a toaster, but you can really feel the difference. It's as if staying near one of the old time housefires, the ones that sucked all your ram and you had to stay inside its bubble to make it stop.
Doesn't help I added wander spawns either.
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>>135427290
No idea. I know NPCs can wear splints, but the specimen I had never got any better in the few days he was alive.
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>>135467995
Yeah, that was funny. I get crawlfatigue so it's nice to see active posting of any other game and made me play some CDDA myself
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wait what
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>>135472748
Welcome to IVAN
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>>135472748
RULES OF NATURE
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guys I miss Lava Orcs

and Forest
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>>135473621
your opinions are wrong

the Dev Team removed them in their infinite wisdom, and now we are free from the oppression of lava orcs

any "fun" you may have had with that race was merely an illusion put into your mind by Satan
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>>135472748
Jeez man it's just a hedgehog

don't lose your head
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>>135473621
I never even got to play forest. Was it fun?
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Any experienced hellmoo anons here?
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>>135474097
Me neither, but I remember a lot of people shittalking forest at the time so I don't think so.
What was the thing? There wee two staircases, one to forest the other to something else and if you chose forest the other entrance collapsed?
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>>135474376
The forest would have a 50% chance to spawn instead of crypt, like with swamp vs shoals or snake vs spider.
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I just have no idea what is even going on in this game
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in the future, what precisely am I supposed to do when I step in a bear trap

d-do I eat the leg

oh who am I kidding I know it's my fetish
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>>135474921
Move out of it
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>>135474921
it's telling me not to eat it

how do I put it back on then

will these wands of necromancy and resurrection help

can I reanimate my own leg and attach it to my body
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>>135475136
i think you can pray to a god and they might replace your leg with a new magical one made out of bananaflesh
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>>135475136
ZAp yourself with resurrection
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>>135474341
>>>/indie/
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>>135475136
Eat the dog. It's useless.
Don't eat mutant(anything) corpses or you'll poly. Prioritize daggers and whips over any kind of weapon. You have to beat the sumo wrestler to get the belt of levitation to bypass mines and bear traps (read the pasta). Also don't spend too much time in uc 3, the blue plants pack a serious punch. In the starting town the priestess of Silva will reattach your leg if you bring it to her. Praying to a god while missing a limb will have the god give you a new artificial prothesis made of (God's material). Artificial limbs aren't that good since they cannot heal by themselves.
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Oh also don't eat frog corpses and don't pray lawful gods if you'd prayed to chaotics. Rule of the thumb is that if you pray to four gods ( N+N--,N-,NC) you won't ever have a problem with the others. Except for the kamikaze dwarves but those happen even if you're an atheist.
There's a way to juggle seven gods at once, but unless you find a holy saga or find a lot of altars in the earlygame it's impossible.
Oh and don't go around burdened or satiated. That's nethack knowledge but still.
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>>135474376
Forest was hex central, full of spriggans with weird classes and Satyrs. Also some dumb animals and plant monsters, but what people really hated were Spirit Wolves, which basically attacked you with never ending spirit wolves via a status effect that summoned them near you, and Elemental Wellsprings which spawned 10 billion water elementals and kept you in shallow water.

It was fucking great but o-tab babbies couldn't handle it. God forbid crawl have monster design that isn't instantly solved for any character by 'lure everything to stairs and corridors'
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>>135476770
Elemental Wellsprings still exist.
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>>135475136
Eat the leg and zap resurrection at yourself. You could also pay an extra to the priest in the starting town and get a new leg. You could reanimate your leg, but that's wasteful.
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>>135476770
Spirit wolves were hated by everyone I remember. That's why they put them in extended now.
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>>135476819
Their summoning and AI were both nerfed and now they basically only exist in Cocytus and the occasional vault and are basically no longer relevant.

>>135476908
Doom Hounds were nerfed as well. You're not wrong about everyone hating them, but imo everyone is wrong to hate them.

I'm also mad about juggernaut nerfs btw- in my mind monsters SHOULD be drastically different from one another and very dangerous. That's why I've been playing so much Demon lately- it's still in alpha stages, but monster encounters are incredibly differentiated from each other, as opposed to crawl's 'popcorn/meatsack/pack of meatsacks' design philosophy that makes every fight pretty much the same, with some resetting to exploit the shit-tier RNG-based caster AI.
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>>135479946
Are you going to do one for each rune
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>>135479991
We can do a 3 rune.
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>>135480069
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>>135480189
>>135480069
>>135479946
So what runes do these all correspond to? The trigon looks like it could be the decaying rune, the diamond looks like it could be the silver rune, and the emerald looks like it could be serpentine rune.
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>>135480280
I like the way you think anon.
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>>135480341
That fits the orb. What card is it? The Mirari could also work for the orb. For dark, maybe do darksteel relic.
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>>135480402
Orb of dreams. Relic could come out really nice.
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>>135480402
Noice. Good call anon.
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>>135480482
MM13 Aether Vial for magical rune
Amber Prison for golden rune
Crystal Shard for barnacled or bone
Dimir Signet for magical rune
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>>135480984
Eye of Ramos for magical rune
Fellwar Stone for golden rune
8E Iron Star for obsidian rune
Mox Jet for dark rune (you've probably done the mox cycle already though)
Lifespark/necrogen spellbomb for glowing rune
Quietus Spike for bone rune
Sorry if the amount of things to process is overwhelming
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>>135469056
Can you ever get a good turncount with a demonspawn? Those below average aptitudes across the board make it seem like you'd need to clear floors more in order to stay ahead of the curve
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>>135482432
Skeleton Shard for bone rune
Skullcage for fiery rune
Sungrass Egg for serpentine rune
Thorn of Amethyst for abyssal rune
Witchbane orb for magical rune
That's all I got from slogging though all noncreature artifacts on gathrer
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>>135482896
it's honestly pretty risky, and you tend to have to change your strategy on the fly.

but they have very powerful regeneration abilities and ways of reducing damage late in the game, and if you do get lucky you can actually push yourself a bit harder than normal and make up for low apts with experience scaling benefits.
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I'm at dungeon:13 after completing lair. I think the mace with MR will help with orcish mines?

Also how do you judge the value of the enchantments
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>>135484028
What type of build are you running? A caster might want to use them purely for resistances, while a fighter will want the one with the best damage output (the flail against orcs since draining is good against the living).
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>>135482896
>-1
>below average
>implying crawl uses a reasonable system where 0 is average

-1 is the average aptitude for almost every skill anon, except stealth which is way higher
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Fuck me immolation is fun.
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>>135484528
MiFi scrublet of chei with plate armor and shield.
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>>135485056
Do the flail for now but pray for any eveningstar or a good morningstar.
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>>135485087
Okay, let's hope rngesus is kind
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>>135484775
man I always just leave that shit on the ground

I should try it sometime
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>>135485381
It's very niche though, if I'm playing a melee character I don't find it uncommon going through the entire game without finding a use for it.
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does anyone actually use wands of disint when they have the choice?

if you want damage other wands can do it without an MR check and to multiple targets at once

if your target has shitty MR you can just paralyse or confuse to neutralize them in a single turn instead of spending multiple zapping them with disint

of course they also work as baddig but again they're outclassed by another wand -- gooddig
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>>135485508
They don't miss, which makes them good for taking out enemies who stay in back, eg orb spiders and electric eels. You can, as you said, just paralyse them, but not always can you take out the surrounding popcorn before it runs out.
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>a pair of +5 quick blades

i didn't even know this existed. should i ditch getting a buckler for my SpEn for these bad boys?
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>>135485508
wands of disintegrate are pretty good for digging killholes, because you can make it so that you can only see the tile you're standing on and the tile that the monster is standing on. If you make the killhole with digging, unless there was some convenient non-rock wall, then you have a bunch of empty space behind you. This is no bueno when fighting monsters that have blink other, blink allies encircling, blink self, or summoners.

That's mainly what I use it for

also 841 XP holy cow
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