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>EO Guides, References, Music, Art Books, etc.
http://pastebin.com/6cmH2LjS

>EOV Information
http://sq-atlus.jp/sq5/
https://mega.nz/#!SghiWI6J!SyUwZs2X9oLHP-rfmVvF_j0QjeI1lA2HSrU4C6qs0eY (Nico stream)

>EO2U Grimoire Collection
http://pastebin.com/uTt9sWvf

>EO2U Recipe + Advertisement
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Bh2wEBRjhpqPpTfZA5jIclHpE1ZXHzYtUeoS7nQO4jM/edit#gid=37367097

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first for highlander a cute
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>>135401816
no more gays
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>>135401868
Only many big damage.
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>>135401868
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKX6fkODFQg

I should play Story Mode, I haven't touched it since the demo.
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>>135401626
Another option.
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>>135402215
I read that as "I'm a jizz whizz, Highlander."
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Use a picture that isn't shit next time.
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>>135402215
>Not being a Boner Intoner.
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http://strawpoll.me/7099136
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>>135403138
...

>>135403218
Need more information. Is the necromancer herself dead? Is the flesh rotting inside?
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>>135403218
I did my part.
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>>135402578
You are shit
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>>135403441
>Is the flesh rotting inside?

Squishier textures!
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>Ginnungagap B5F
>Leukocytes are back
>Red Corpuscles are back
Nooo
NOOOOOOOO
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>Claret Hallows
>Get ambushed in the later floors
>Instantly game over
>One of your attacks miss an evil root
>Instantly game over
>Get unlucky against the red corpuscles and gasser trees fight
>Instantly game over
I'm getting pretty sick of this shit. Especially since I've been ambushed 5 times in the last hour.
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>>135404276
Group with 3 leukocytes and 3 red corpuscules is back
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>train Medic in a passive skill that gives him a faster natural recovery time from binds and ailments
>he's ways the last to naturally recover from binds and ailments
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>>135405241
always the last*
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>>135404739
>EO2U
>Get to 5th stratum
>"I think I'll poke around a bit before I go back to town."
>Ambushed by rare breed Mandrake
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>finally playing through the EO games
>EO1
>get to Sandy Barrens
>fuck yeah a desert, had enough of forests
>nothing but repeat monsters with color swaps
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>>135406047
I hope EOV just reuse every monster on all the 3ds EOs so we don't have to use color swaps this time.

Or if they have to use them, made them like EO3
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>>135406621
Every monster in EO5 so far is new.
Even Alraune
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>>135406802
>No more dragon trio
>their replacements still have cores
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>>135407608
>The Core has summoned a Red Dragon
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>>135405553
>"I think I'll poke around a bit before I go back to town."
Is engraved on the tombstones of every guild ever.
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>>135407701
>The Core's Red Dragon has summoned a Core
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>>135407889
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>>135404276
Kupala is cute.
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>>135406047
Doesn't help the fact Sandy Barrens is 100% "THAT level".

Shit on EOU all you want but it managed to turn that strata into something bearable.
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>Hall of Darkness B1F
>managed to sneak through the three-FOE conga line bullshit
>try to open up a shortcut in the bottom left
>end up on the other side of the fucking map
>can't safely backtrack because low tp
>ariadne thread
boy i can't fucking wait to deal with the FOE jamboree again
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>>135408661

Isn't Sandy Barrens pretty much exactly the same between games outside of Iwaopeln's floor?
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>>135409324
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>>135409324
Thanks?
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>>135409324
wut?
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>>135405553
Honestly fuck ambushes, they're a terrible mechanic.
>Lol you just got killed before you could even have a turn and lost a bunch of progress because you got unlucky :^)
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>>135410310
That's EO, baby!
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>>135410310
They're fine outside of Untold.
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>>135410310
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>>135408828
Better UI already makes it better, plus I think a bunch of floors got revamped at least for story.
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>>135411278
the layout is the same in both modes
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>>135410310
Always heal your party after every battle.
Know when it's time to go home and not be enticed by greed.
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>>135411448
Then I guess I got used to it
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>>135411540
What about when you get wiped from full health in an ambush? Is it better to just stay home forever instead of being enticed by greed?
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>>135411774
Be at an appropriate level?
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>>135411774
>What about when you get wiped from full health in an ambush?

Not him but that never happened to me.
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>>135410310
>>135411540
>Future EOs
>Hey anon! You ought to head back to town, don't you think?
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>>135411540
>Always heal to full after every battle
Like that fucking matters when you get ambushed by an evil root and then literally just lose the game
>Know when it's time to go home and not be enticed by greed
Yeah because when you explore for 20 minutes and then get ambushed by a bullshit encounter that wipes you while you still have a lot of TP that's totally being enticed by greed
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>>135410310
Honestly this has still NEVER happened to me.

Every time I've gotten a Game Over in EO it's been because I got fucked up by an FOE or boss.
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>>135411774
>here a retard who neverd used utility skills or a survivalist
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>>135410310
I'm the type of guy that in Fire Emblem has a 99% chance of hitting the enemy with a 4x hit weapon and still fail every single hit, yet this have never happened to me in all my EO years.
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Are we just posting our favorite girls now?
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>>135418326
Machinery has no gender
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>>135418437
She's still my favorite girl, no matter how right you are.
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>>135411540
I love seeing anons say "I'll just check out this next room then head back to town."

It's like when you're watching some movie and a character pulls out photos of their family.
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>>135418887
That puffy looking vulva is a trap. It will make your weewee literally explode.
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>>135418437
Robots have whatever gender I install in them.
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>>135419228
I'd still try.
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>>135419373
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How many e shop cards do I have to buy for the eou2 dlc? Don´t have the game with me right now, that´s why I´m asking.
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https://youtu.be/cFctacTsLMw
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>>135420025
Why are you buying eshop cards rather than just buying it through the 3ds
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>>135421590
Why is EO1's FOE music so shit?
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>>135421761
Because I fill my account with the money from the card code. Online shopping/banking whatever isn´t my forte.
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>>135422016
I think it's going for an 'Oh shit' vibe, unlike the more energetic themes in 3 and 4.
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>>135415256

Please do not molest the Hoplite/Fortress.
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Can I guarantee an encounter so I can not worry about getting attacked while walking by an FOE?

EO4 by the way.
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>>135425065
Just pace around outside the FOE's room/range until you get a mob fight.
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>>135425065
>>135425207
Small thing to add: most rooms with FOEs have a lowered encounter rate, so unless you're entering while the meter is red/orange you should be fine.
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>>135411918
You fucking liar.
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how do I eo4
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>>135429429

Map things until they die.
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Boy I sure do love EO4 but holy god it's terrible not having the walk speed option.

Literally the only thing I like better in the new versions
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What's a good name for an Arcanist? From what I can tell, they've got a Chinese motif, but I'm not very good choosing Chinese names.
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>>135418437
USBs have a gender.
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>>135431463
http://www.behindthename.com/names/usage/chinese
Pick two.
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>>135429743
Just get comfy.
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>>135429429
Just use a five Fort party, then nothing can kill you.
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>>135431463
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>>135431865
But then you will also not be able to kill anything.
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>>135429570
what if I die first
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>>135432321

Map harder.
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>it's a "bring 10 of these super rare drops from super rare enemies" quest
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>>135434846
>it's the 100 feathers quest
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>>135434846
>Find enemy by the dozen everywhere.
>Quest to get a material from them.
>They suddenly stop showing up.
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>>135434846
>it's a do a good deed for the good deed's sake quest
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>>135434846
You never have to pick 10 rare drops in any quest.
Not even on gathering points.
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>>135435504
Floor jump, 3D modeled enemies, grimoires
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>>135435761
Oh you.
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>>135435504
EOU1
>No immunize meme
>Max level 99
>Ricky
>More classes are usable

EOU2
>No bullshit retire requirements
>FOEs and quests give experience now
>You don't have to grind 30 minutes to get your force bar ready
>Force skills are actually fun to use
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>>135435761
Do people really not like the 3D models?
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>Playing EO4
>Get an Imperial
>Feel hyped
>Swap out my Landshark for one
>The only real benefit I'm feeling right now is that I don't have to worry about buff cap limit between L/RM/S
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>>135436357
>Do people really not like the 3D models?
Sprites were better as they translated the feeling of fighting ferocious monsters.

I don't hate 3d models, but some monsters looks silly.
Fenrir, but that one was awful in the original too.
Chimaera looks silly, and Revelationer looks dumb as fuck
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>>135431612
On second thought, I don't particularly like Chinese names. At the same time, I want to have names sound canon in the lore.

What do?
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>>135436732
wufan
wutang
wukid
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>>135436726
>Sprites were better as they translated the feeling of fighting ferocious monsters.

they really didn't, it just felt like fighting a piece of paper
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>>135436732
Stop being a pussy and make a decision.

Make a loli twig and give it a super cutesy name by repeating one syllable twice.
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>>135437020
That's just lazy.

>>135437060
I dated a girl with a cute Chinese name like that, so that's out. I'm thinking of just going with Lily or something.
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>>135436726
Sprites were better because FOEs were fluffy orange balls back then.
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>>135437373
I prefer the models. It's much better when you think that FOE on the map is the same as all the other FOEs on the floor, but then you get a look at it when you turn a corner and think "WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT!?".
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>>135432102
You'd be surprised.
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when you have a rare breed, does the extra exp apply to the entire battle of enemies or just the one rare breed itself
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>>135438968

It multiplies the exp of the rare breed itself.
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>>135435627
I remember spending hours hunting golden boars in EOU to get some of that golden fur.
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>>135436726
>Chimaera looks silly
Come on, how can you say that about this majestic creature?

>>135437369
>I'm thinking of just going with Lily or something
But you just did >give it a super cutesy name by repeating one syllable twice
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>Muskoid used Ruinous Pollen!
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>>135440356
Of all the ways to go in the labyrinth, petrification always seemed the most horrifying.
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>>135440356
>Stone Charm x5
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>>135440757
Specially since petrification can be cured. Just how much is a petrified person aware of? What have those statues experienced in the maybe centuries that they have spent stuck at the same place, unable to die?
At least they aren't floating in space
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>>135440896
>Wasting equip slots
>Not just having a dancer so dedicated they keep dancing when they're a statue.
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>>135441094
>eventually the adventurers stopped thinking and wanted to die
I can't think of a worse fate.
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>>135441148
>dance gets petrified before she can do her slut dance
Nah, I'll keep the charms.
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>>135440757
>>135441094
>>135441698
Think of petrification like being coated in concrete. You don't die right away, which is why you can be cured, however if youre not cured within X amount of time you die where you were petrified, in a stony shell of your own skin.
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>>135441956
That's why you teach your F/D quick step.
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>>135436391
I'm not there yet, but I will never swap out my landy. She is my group leader and my waifu
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>>135443247
I had swapped her out but I'm going to put her back in.

I'll just say that my Landy took a break or something.
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>>135443357
Did the same thing with my medic. I've grown quite attached to my team dynamic.
Except for my sniper. He's just a groupie.
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>>135440356
On that subject, can you save those adventurers in the dead end in the Hall of Darkness? I don't really want to bother with the whole thing if you can't.
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>>135439415
>But you just did >give it a super cutesy name by repeating one syllable twice
Oh, I thought you meant something like "Pan-Pan".
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>>135445237
Of course, you only have to go through the event 10 straight times then return to Vermillion City and use strength on the truck
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>>135442023
what happens when you win a battle but only one member remains unpetrified? do they have to lug around the lifeless statues of their comrades through the dungeon?
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>>135446279
Ties them all together and drags them around the labyrinth.
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>>135446279
Yes.
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Revive
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This series looks interesting and I just finished rage quitting a run of Elminage: Gothic.

Which one should I start with if I have a 3DS and what should my party looks like?
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>>135451170
EO2U
Lolis
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>>135451170
EOIV. Just try to balance a party. Keep in mind that Nightseekers are insane DPS.
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>>135451279
Good, I already have the .cia for this one.

What makes it a good entry point? Is it babbymode or does it simply represent the point in a series where there's a balance between QoL improvements without being ultra casual?
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>>135451170

EO4. All runemaster. Learn to kite enemies' attacks.
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>>135451284
>>135451456
AND WE HAVE 2 VOTES FOR EOIV

EO2UFAG, DEFEND YOURSELF OR LOSE YOUR HONOUR
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>>135451413
Game is balanced around expert mode.
Untold 2 is a remake of EO2, classes are balanced now.

Play it on expert, the game get a bit hard, but there is no challenge in picnic and normal, because you deal more damage, receive less damage and heal more.
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>>135451170
EOU2 by far.
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>>135451553
>we have 2 votes
>all me xD
>instigating shitposting for the sake of shitpost
Stop
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>>135451553
Not him, but 2 Untold has loli bath DLC
I'd still go with IV, though.
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>>135451772
God, the things I'd do to Arianna. Why can't she be real?
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>>135451772

>DLC only for untold sluts

Shit taste and you know it.
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>>135451772
>Arianna
>loli
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>>135452000
He is probably talking about Chloe but was to lazy to actually look for a picture or he was a fag scary to post "loli"
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>>135452000
Well, Chloe is there, too.
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>>135451170
2U. A generic party of

>Physical Attacker / Tank / Filler
>Elemental Attacker / Support class.

Can do it.
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>>135451772
>loli bath DLC
NOW you've got my interest.
Fortunately I know Japanese as well; TL note アリアソナmeans 'uguu"

But how do I get this shit?

Obviously I don't care if it's in Japanese; see above.
Did I mention I know Japanese?
I so rarely get the chance to brag about it.
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>>135452363
That's ン, not ソ
You have to play story mode to get the bath portraits, but anyway, 3dsiso probably has the .cia
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>>135452363
Well, since you mentioned having a .cia of the game, then just download the DLCs as a .cia too and install them. Be aware that the bath is only for Story Mode, in Classic you don't get any scenes, but you do get the best armor for the Beast class.
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>>135452479
Good eye; I was wondering if anyone would notice. H-heh, I was just p-pretending to be r-retarded

>>135452512
>Story Mode only
I'll save it for when I've done a Classic Mode run then. Nothing's better than using your imagination and filling in all the character details yourself!

10's all around for this helpful group of anons. Enjoy your (You)s.
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>>135452363
>アリアソナmeans 'uguu"
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>>135452704
>>135452363
I thought you actually wanted help, but you are just shitposting.

Fuck off to /v/
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>>135451895
Because if she were she'd be further away from you.
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>>135452880
He's just having some fun anon. It's better than HAY HOW 2 MAEK PARTI. And it keeps the thread bumped.
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>>135451895
She is dumb
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>>135452704
fyi, the bath DLC was localized (amazingly, considering Chloe), so you don't need to get the Japanese version specifically. unless you want to show off your talents
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Well, should I?
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>>135453862
Yes.
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>>135453862
Nothing ventured nothing gained.
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>>135453862

Bring her home. Just don't look back.
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>>135451170
EOIV, and don't worry about your party too much.
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>>135454213
>>135455225
>>135455296
Well, I took the doll but nothing happened. Teleported back to town because those Lightning Spawns are madness that nearly wiped me out.
...now I'm slightly on edge.
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>>135456548

Not your home. Her home.
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>the first thing you see when getting on a new thread is peeps playing pirated copies

So much support to Atlus, eh?
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>>135456548
Enjoy.
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>>135456587
I figured, but I was going to teleport back anyways. I'm on edge about what happens when i take her to her home, if I can find it.
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>>135456649
>>the first thing you see when getting on a new thread is peeps playing pirated copies
>So much support to Atlus, eh?
Thread has more than 150 posts and it is 9 hours old
The fuck are you talking about?
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>>135402093
How could you nigga, Fafnir is worth beating story mode for. I love that theme so much I can't help but include him in most classic runs.
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>>135456649

>2016
>paying for games

Where do you think you are?
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>>135456649
Eh thats how I got into the series, I pirated the first 3 games on the DS when I was in high school. Now I've bought every single one and even bought 4 a second time digital just to have it on me.
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Are Arcanists worth putting them in your party? I just unlocked them and I can't decide if I want to use one or not.
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>>135457529
On their own they're a 6/10, they have decent utility, but when subclasses get unlocked they shoot up to 9/10.
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>>135457529
I'd say so. I replaced my medic with one and finished the game fine.
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>>135457529
30 characters slots
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Minimum level to deal with Hollow Queen? I am using L-N-F | M-R party and cannot save myself from the damage she dishes out.
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>>135457772
What are they best paired with for subclasses?

>>135457775
I was thinking of replacing my Medic with an Arcanist, actually. Do they take over the role well? I feel like I've started to rely on Patch Up too much.

>>135457816
Five party slots. I'm just asking because I don't want to do tons of grinding only to find out they don't mesh well with my party.

>>135458072
I just beat her and I was level 27. She still put up a good fight, though.
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>>135458072
You will need to get used to using line shield, use the throws to disable some of her for a few turns at a time, and wreck her with shadow bite. altenativly ditch the N or L and replace with a dancer to help buff. I beat her around lv33 I think.
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>>135458072
Around Wufan's level
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>>135458217
It depends on what you plan on using them for, I use my arcanist as a binding medic, which she excels at, alternative uses could be A/N for extremely varied debuffer with some heavy hitting attacks, or N/A for a very heavy hitting dps with boosted ailment rate. arcanists are the type of class that can do basically anything you want. I replaced my medic with an arcanist as soon as I got sub classes unlocked.
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>>135458217
They're fantastic at healing continuously while their circles are up but if you're taking a lot of damage they have a hard time keeping up, plus dismiss heal basically takes 2 turns to use. Subclassing them as a medic for revive and full heal is useful and really helps even them out.
On the subject of patch up it outgrows it's usefulness fairly quickly so it's a good idea to ditch it anyway.
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>>135458072

My team was a couple levels below Wufan when i beat her. I had a sniper as well, but you need to use Wufan's circles to bind the Queen's backup dancers so you can burn them down quick. I believe she only has 2 pairs in total so after that you can actually start focusing on the Queen herself.

I only remember her Ice pirouette song attack thingy and her Dimension Slash being a problem so save the head bind and arm bind for whichever is more dangerous to your group. Obviously you're going to want to eat for Ice and Sleep (?) resist; there should be an appropriate foodstuff in the second area.
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>>135458072
I'm >>135458217 and I pretty much have the same party as you, but instead of a Landsknecht in the front I have a Sniper in the back. You're probably going to want to use Wufan for the fight because Hollow Queen and her guards have really high evasion unless you bind their legs. I blinded them with my Nightseeker and hit the queen with the double hit burst and Ice Knife boosted by my Runemaster's Ice Rune. I dealt with the guards with Glacier Rune and my Sniper. I'd also suggest using Taunt and Strike Guard, because the queen uses more physical attacks than elemental ones. Good luck.

>>135458617
Okay, thanks. I haven't quite unlocked subclasses yet, so I'll keep that in mind. Should I do an Arcanist with a Medic subclass, or the other way around?

>>135458691
I figured Patch Up would eventually outgrow its usefulness. I maxed it out, but it still plateaus and doesn't quite scale with your stats as well as I thought it would.
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>>135459269
do A/M. It'll heal well enough with circles covering what a normal medic would otherwise normally do, in addition to making the circles last longer. M/A is better if you really rely on tons of healing, but having bandage and bracing walk(?) should heal off any residual damage you take as an A/M.
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>>135459269
A/M so you have a better chance of landing circles. Also patch up doesn't scale at all. It will continue to heal 50hp forever.
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>Fighting Cursed Prince, level 61 or better for whole party
>Strike Guard, Rampart on Fortress, Full Health
>Been shrugging off everything he throws at me with ease up until he uses ignition
>Overdrive
>Rocks fall, everyone dies

...Like...Like for real though?
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>>135459972
You ever been hit by a rock? They hurt. The bigger they are, the more they hurt.
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>>135459407
>>135459702
Alright, cool, thanks.

Too bad none of the Arcanist girls are cute. I guess I'll use a guy.
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>>135460143

he could hardly put a fifty hit point scratch on my fortress until that last turn

is the battle just timed? it just ends when he overdrives?
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>>135460654

No. You need to beat him.
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>>135460654
No, you're just bad right now because you had mostly an easy time playing till then. I was hte same way with boiling lizard, he fucked me up consistently then I saw what I was doing wrong and just murdered him.

Side note, which one of you pulled this >>135363670
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>>135460828

It's not uncommon for young girls to have lady's to get hardons for various ore.
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>>135460375
>none of the Arcanist girls are cute
>hating twiggy twintails
Anon please
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>>135461357
Even if I were forced to pick who the cutest Arcanist girl is, I would not pick twin tails.
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>>135461683
Twintails is best arcanist.

As someone mentioned, A/M is superior to M/A. Putting more than half the max into any of the medics healing skills is unnecessary and arcanists inflict binds/ailments more often.
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>>135465870
i wanna fug sanae
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>>135465870
Twin tails make girls look way too young.
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>>135466187
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I need a good Ricky picture for my steam avatar
I'm open to suggestions
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>>135466707
There's just a point where too young is too young.
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>>135467319
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>>135467427
True, but she doesn't look younger than any other female in the game.
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>>135467427
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>>135467427
And thankfully Yuuji went past that by making an entire race that's basically pure Miyasaka Takaji bait.
Himukai you glorious motherfucker.
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>>135468174
Meant to quote >>135467319 but oh well
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>>135468491
I don't know how japs manage to draw the same kind of OTP.

I love Shiitake x Farmer and the fact that multiples artists love this couple too.
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1-3 replay 3
4-6 replay U2
7-9 replay 4
0 replay u1
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>No Fuurai class in EOV
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war revive
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Defanger is sleeping. Post more best magus.
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>>135478407
Why the snake scars?
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>>135479886
Snakes love fangs too.
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>>135410310
Didn't think this general had that kind of people in it.
Have you ever played other dungeon crawlers? This is the stuff that makes them great. You are never in complete control, a lot encounters can be very dangerous. Having bad luck sometimes is part of the experience.
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>>135481656
Comfymaster is cute but sleepymaster is adorable too!
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>You will never party up with other adventurers to explore dungeons and fight monsters
>You will never life in a fantastic world with swords and sorcery
I want to die.
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>>135483157
Take drugs and play EO.
Report results.
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>>135481656
Ambushes that force you to return to town because of how much they wreck you or that have you play your best cards as your only chance of survival are nice.

Randomly losing a ton of progress being in top condition because a dice said FUCK YOU with no option to make a comeback as if it were a shitty roguelike is not nice.
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>>135465870
Guy here who was taking his medic solo to level him up and put him back in the team in place of Wufan. I decided to auto-grind him and ended up falling asleep. Woke up and found he's three levels past everyone else. Awesome.

But I miss the circle healing already. And I forgot my medic has shit agility. I don't want to let him go, though. :(
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>>135483817
>a ton
You're the only one to blame in that case.

The game saying fuck you is part of the experience. A bunch of ninjas beheading your entire front row is the same. This is nice as long as it doesn't happen all the fucking time which we all know it doesn't.

If stuff like that didn't happen, you probably wouldn't die at all in EO.
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>>135484151
Told ya about that auto grind, bro, its the shit.
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>>135483817
When it comes to ambushes, youre not supposed to be prepared, thats why its called and ambush. You can ambush them, and they can ambush you. Don't be whining like a little bitch just because you never remember ot save your game and need your hand held all the time, I bought the digital version of 4 and accidentally my whole sd card and had ot restart the entire game, right after I struggled my way through the 3rd map. You, on the other hand, only lost a few hours, of which are easy and quick to recover from.

Also
>Randomly losing a ton of progress being in top condition because a dice said FUCK YOU with no option to make a comeback as if it were a shitty roguelike is not nice.
>losing a ton of progress being in top condition
>top condition
If your top condition gets you killed from an ambush, you really are just bad at videogames.
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>>135484398
>I had a shit SD card so nobody should complain about games
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>>135484220
>still sleepy when i woke up
>oh shit I left my game on all this time
>look at my status
>sleepy so I see my money amount and freak out
>over 5000
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>>135484521
>im shit at videogames so they should cater to my needs
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>>135484398
>If your top condition gets you killed from an ambush, you really are just bad at videogames.
Do you even know what turn priority is? Evilroots get a lot of that.
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>>135484551
Come say that when you play on expert.
And stop putting your personal hardware issues as a standard of the game.
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>>135484629
The fact that you/he cant handle unpredictable situations that are at your/his party level means hes bad at videogames. I played, got ambushed a lot, and never once died to it, because I can handle unpredictable situations like that, and have done it time and time again.
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>>135484702
>stop putting your personal hardware issues as a standard of the game.
What are you even on about.

>Come say that when you play on expert.
the onyl time its fair to bitch about a games bullshit is when its a game that legitimatly cheats to beat you, like in a few of those older call of duty games that will spawn grenades behind you when you've already put yourself in a situation where you would have seen the grenades coming. Bitching because you can't handle a surprise attack is nothing more than whining about not being better at the game.
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>>135484716
Most ambushes are harmless, they're fine like that.

However, sometimes they get mixed in with unavoidable crap like mandragoras/evilroots setting up to kill your whole party on turn 2, or party-wide turn1 poison that will instantly kill everyone below a certain HP threshold (and definitely everyone on turn 2). Until you have experienced it and prepare with poison charms, you won't know it's there so it's almost a guaranteed death at some point.

>>135484832
>What are you even on about.
I think he means
>I bought the digital version of 4 and accidentally my whole sd card and had ot restart the entire game, right after I struggled my way through the 3rd map. You, on the other hand, only lost a few hours, of which are easy and quick to recover from
Which is indeed unrelated to the matter at hand.
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>>135484968
Again, i've never run into an ambush I couldnt handle, even when I have to run. This tells me two things: 1. i'm able to prepare for being fucked over by saving the game regularly while he is not, and 2. he lacks the personal accountability to take preemptive measures to prepare himself for failure. If hes new to videogames thats one thing, but every seasons veteran understands that no matter waht game youre playing, be it harvest moon, guitar hero, or resident evil, you can be fucked over at any point in time for any reason at all.

>Which is indeed unrelated to the matter at hand.
I disagree, he's bitching about losing a few hours of progress, which is easily fixable, having to start all the way back at square one, thats something worth whining about. It's like working three jobs and always being tired, and some punk kid thats on his first day starts complaining because hes tired and wants to go home.
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>>135485204
>I disagree, he's bitching about losing a few hours of progress, which is easily fixable, having to start all the way back at square one, thats something worth whining about
But if we start escalating out of the game itself, it simply will trivialize everything, including his complain.
Buing a shitty card and losing your game is worse than losing some hours of progress.
Getting your console broken is worse than getting a shitty SD.
Your house burning down is worse than your console breaking down.

And if we keep scaling up, in the end nobody has the right to complain about anything, which we'll agree doesn't really work out.
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>>135485462
Exactly, which is why nobody should ever whine, there is always someone that has it worse than you.
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>>135485539
Well, then don't whine about me whining. There are people out there who have to stand their boss's nonsense and can't do anything about it, not even whining about the whining.
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>>135485683
Ill whine about you whining about whiners whining about whining.
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>>135478407
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>>135484398
Is IV your only EO, by any chance? There are ambushes that can petrify your whole party without you being able to act at all. And that means game over.

Thing is you're supposed to save often and learn from these encounters. If you know that there are enemies in a stratum that can cast group petrify, equip stone charms. EO is not a game where you're supposed to breeze though everything without getting wiped out ever. You're supposed to fuck up and learn from your mistakes.

In U2 you're also 'supposed' to lose against Esbat to figure out their gimmick.
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Love
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Anon who was fighting Fallen One yesterday here, gotta give my thanks to the anon who told me about Geo Impact. I just needed that and a bunch of Thearica A and managed to pull through, even getting the rare drop (but not getting the normal one in the process).

Now to fill that Item Compendium.
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Any particular skills i should look for in EOU2's storymode? Outside of basic things like elemental attacks, walls and heals/revives nothing seems too important.
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>>135489638
I rarely fuck up because im terrified of being caught off guard in these games, I hit the level cap quiet a bit before facing the last main storyline boss. The only hard parts were my insistence on getting the conditional drops on the very first kill, and the closest i've ever gotten to group petrify was 4/5 being stoned. I play the games as if the games were real, I over prepare, I grind, and I learn about what each dungeon has to offer in terms of drops, and then I play. In a real world situation, you would never dive into an unexplored labyrinth without doing some kind of studying or preparing for the worst. This is the way I play, this is how I have fun. I rarely lose to cheap shit, and on the times I do, I know exactly why I did.

>>135489790
Geo impact is the best burst skill the game has to offer, its the main reason why its possible to kill the super boss with five dancers and no chemicals.
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Is there an easy way to level grind a new guild member in EOIV? I've only gotten to the third stratum.
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>>135491218
Yes, go to dense bushlands, go into the top left corner of hte map, setup auto route in a circle, gear up your party member that needs grinding with the best gear they can equip, then use somehting to hold down the A button, then go do something else for six or seven hours.

Alternativly, find ebony carrots, go to the second map, drop them for the nightmare rams, then ambush then, kill them with holy gift burst skill, and swim in exp.
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>>135491218
You use the manuals you were given to level grind a character instantly.
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>>135491218
Do what I did with my medic. Auto-grind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv5Qg9ojMmo
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>>135459972
>using fortress as far as cursed prince
what even for if dual I/R analrape everything in the game, overdriving yourself and shoving some scorching blades up prince's ass is top tier at this fight
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>>135491443
Oh hey, that's how I used to map shortcuts too.
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>>135491443
That guy has the same idea as me, but he does it in a dangerous place, relatively speaking. dense bushlands is the safest low level place i've found, and the map quardrant I grind in has war bisons, which give massive exp for their level. Also, I was wrong, its the bottom left corner of the map.
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>>135491443
>uploaded 2 days ago
>100~ views
Did you make this video, anon?
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>>135491935
I was grinding just one character. Dense Bushlands has those paralysis-inducing scorpions. He'd be ded.

Lush Woodlands is fine if you avoid the bears. I can handle them alone with one character, but not on auto. I just circled around the main room.

>>135492002
No. I watched it last night and was surprised it was so recent.
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>>135491935
>not outlining your labyrinth maps
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