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>/dsg/ Player List
http://pastebin.com/9hG50KHX
>/dsg/ Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral
>Draw
http://doodleordie.com/r/darksouls
http://imgur.com/a/XhBxC (DeS)
http://imgur.com/a/wwtuf (DaS2)
http://flockmod.com/dsg
>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a
>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/h1etMh8E
>Essential PC mods
http://pastebin.com/XwL5KDhB
>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v
>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n
>DARK SOULS 3
http://pastebin.com/RDDaqtcP>True
Colors of Darkness Trailer
[YouTube] Dark Souls III - Shadows Ahead | PS4, X1, PC
http://www.gamersyde.com/download_dark_souls_iii_true_colors_of_darkness-36715_en.html
>List of Confirmed Dark Souls 3 weapons
http://pastebin.com/SPbWEGnH
>>135342161
Kill yourself furfag
HALBERDS
First for Lautrec the cosplaying bastard
VOTE!!!
strawpoll.me/7086324
>tfw can't use black witch hat + moonlight greatsword in ds2 because the piece of shit clips right through it
BURG FC is sitll ongoing
120 channel 8
>>135342356
my red ss has been down summon me
>>135342029
Yes. It's just strangely relaxing. In DS1 turtling is quite demanding as you get poisestabbed on a whim. In BB reiter turtling forces you to be fast and precise as fuck. But in DS2 you can just relax as you have hard counters for virtually everything your opponent can throw at you. Just turn on some good music and let it flow.
>>135342161
So is Solaire really Gwyn's son? It seems obvious he's the son of the Goddess of Love but was she bangin' Gwyn? Doesn't it make more sense that the Dark Sun was the one who was represented by all the destroyed statues in Anor Londo??
>hate weeb katana fags
>they actually put the DeS skeleton leap attack into the game
>mfw I am going to become what I hate
CRAAAAAAAAAAAWLLLLLIIIIIING IN MY SKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN
>>135342356
>>135342515
is the host still there? I'm not being summoned either
>>135342574
>not being chill as fuck katanafag who just wants to have some fun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ph973FrkUs
>>135342607
summoned by new host now
I think
>game already being downgraded
nah, im pirating this
This is my Lautrec FC build I have been rolling
>>135342574
I wonder if we will be able to parry that attack. It seems to be really slow and easy to punish.
>>135342981
Downgrade not confirmed.
Wait 8 days and we'll know for sure, albeit on a peasantstation.
>select pictures for CAPTCHA keep fading away when you click on them
WHAT THE FUCKING HIROSHIMA?
>>135343141
>not using the old captchas
>>135343141
Read the instructions, for those you have to remove only a certain kind. Usually storefronts or rivers.
>summoned to Artorias instead of actual FC host
>guy with crystal sword uses tranquil walk of peace
>it damages me for all my hp every waking second
>walks up to me and puts me out of my misery
>>135343073
>pyro flame
>buckler
>lautrec
nah
>>135343073
>cosplay builds in a fight club
are you some shitty honorfags or something
>>135343382
tumblebuff stone greatsword
I won't do it anymore
>>135343407
>gimping myself
Lautrec had permanent fall control on anyway:^)
>>135343420
>midrolling
Enjoy getting poked to death by spears famalam
>>135343420
>mid roll
nah
>>135343420
I eat a Green Blossom before a fight then start fighting a dude
There's no shame in cosplay builds you goddamn NO FUN ZONE
>>135343576
>>135343620
>they don't know the power of midroll kumo and midroll setups in general that can transform into dwgr flippers with demon spear in a second
>2013+3
>everyone gets summoned but me the FC
:<
>>135343828
Sorry man your build sucks
>>135343828
aren't you that fag that trys hard on stream
>>135344007
it's just a screenshot of a stream
midroll builds are a hot theme in the entire tryhard pc community right now
>>135344108
Why is that?
I can't stop the Tarkus, he's too powerful
>host refuses to summon me
>place sign down hoping he will
>sign getting glitched by a guy failing to invade me now
>get summoned
>giantkid turns on infinite hp after I hit him a few times
lame desu senpai
>>135344262
MP8
SL120
Are you certain you're in the right place as well?
Is Anor Londo the most overrated area in the SoulsBorne games?
You enter into it thinking you get to explore a giant kingdom, but all you get to explore is the castle at the center of that kingdom.
It's basically a linear walkway leading to the castle. Anor Londo itself is actually incredibly short and has very little in the way of memorable level design (aside from the Anor Londo archers). What actually is memorable about that area from a visual standpoint is copy and pasted from real life architecture.
What do people like so much about it? In terms of exploring a medieval kingdom-like area, Boletaria and Eleum Loyce are far better. You're actually exploring the entire kingdoms instead of just a small castle.
Pic related. You only get to explore within the red highlighted area. Everything else is just for decoration when you enter into the area after Sen's Fortress to give off the illusion that there will be tons of exploration.
>>135344487
>PC community
>>135344487
Are you the arty anon? He did the same after complaining in the other thread lol.
>Giantkid turns on infinite HP
>Ciaran's futile attempt to backstab him into submission
>>135344535
>You enter into it thinking you get to explore a giant kingdom
Who expected that?
>>135344702
I am arty but I didnt complain or turn on infinite hp
Solaire would be a Lord of Cinder, discuss.
Bonfire-chan!
>>135344803
I meant Giantkid turned it on after he complained. Sorry for shit wording.
>>135344921
Ah ok, yeah I figured with a name like giantkid he'd do something dumb
>be artorias
>get summoned for some dank FC
>I have infinite HP but my trainers closed
thanks giantkid ???
post the first souls related image from yourphone
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>>135345101
Giantkid at it again
http://strawpoll.me/7094969
pls halp
>>135345232
just don't summon him? What's the problem
>>135345249
Nah, the games are a little too linear in nature to be called open-world.
>>135342528
His firstborn was stripped of his name and status
Gwyndolyn is his youngest child and his name is fucking GWYNdolyn
>>135342528
>It seems obvious he's the son of the Goddess of Love
>Solaire the son of the Goddess of Love
What the nigger?
Where the fuck is this ever hinted? Lautrec must be jealous as fuck.
>>135346050
>Where the fuck is this ever hinted?
Vaati sent him a PM and told him the secret lore of Dark Souls.
>>135346050
It's all real faggot, check out Vaati Vidya's latest Fina video.
Bonefire-chan!
>>135346050
To clarify, there are these statues all over the game. We know they're of some lady who is the Goddess of Love. I forgot her name.
She's holding a baby and the baby is dangling a straightsword identical to Solaire's.
>>135346226
>>135346228
Vaati's shit is all about him being Gwyn's son, I'm just tryna find out what's legit nigga calm down nothing wrong with speculation
>That Ciaran vs Solaire fight
Good shit indeed
>>135346363
>straightsword identical to Solaire's.
That sword looks more like a Silver Straight Sword than a Sunlight Blade.
Has anyone ever done a free camera mode to get a better look at them?
>>135346363
I think it's safe to assume that the statue belonging to the Sunbros that was destroyed was also Gwyn's firstborn. I don't think there's any evidence that Solaire is that man, though.
>>135346363
>identical to Solaire's
Nah
>>135346363
Not speculating on your own, you'll never unravel the mysteries of Dark Souls's intricaqte and deep lore.
Just got to Vaati Vidya's YouTube channel and check out his epic lore vids. Once he tells you what to think, you can subscribe to his channel, become on of his patrons on patreon, then come here and parrot whatever he says!
>>135346504
>>135346524
Wtf nigga that's a sunlight straightsword are you high
what class to start with for a caestus into bone fist run in das2?
>>135346697
The one with the highest stamina and HP.
>>135346658
I've watched Vaati's stuff. It's mostly compilations of other peoples' theories with some really crazy reaches that I definitely don't believe because there's no evidence to support them.
>>135346668
>blade narrows inward towards crossguard rather than widen out from material of the crossguard
I'm not convinced.
Friendly reminder
Fight club Channel 8
sl 120
>>135346808
Vaati's content is 100% original, if anything, they're the ones who won't stop copying his videos because they're jealous of my success and want a piece of it.
>>135346668
>>135346550
>>135346504
You guys are all tripping balls dude, looks like an sunlight blade to me
brb posting sunlight sword photo next
>>135346808
False, Vaati Vidya has direct connections to Miyazaki, and has reportedly even shaken hands with him. This means that Miyazaki's lore knowledge was transfered to Vaati via skin contact, so Vaati's "theories" (They're actually facts) are completely true.
You should go kindle his channel, haha
>>135346995
That's definitely a Silver Straight Sword.
>>135346992
fuck off vaati
>>135347020
>you will never masturbate with a hand that's touched Miyazaki
Why even gank?
>>135347051
Yeah, that's not the Sunlight Sword's hilt.
>>135346995
>>135347051
I believe in your skepticism, but to me this looks like a sunlight shortsword model.
>>135342574
I know the feeling.
>>135347212
it's close but it's not that same. the hilt is different and where the sword attaches to the hilt is different.
>>135347212
Naw. If you compare the 2, the statue's sword has a much longer, thinner crossguard. Definitely an SKS.
Not that some random fuckoff statue is conclusive evidence one way or another considering the game's abysmal development schedule.
>>135347212
>>135347331
Silver Straight Sword comparison will blow this shit out of the water.
>>135342574
hell yeah!
>>135346995
>>135347212
And now a look at the Silver sword.
>>135347363
I see what you're saying but I think I'm going to have to freecam it to get a better look. The angle is awfully bad on this cap.
Sometimes, I wonder if Vaati actually did steal anything, or if it was more him taking shit that were popular lore/theories around the net and using them as a basis for his videos, and anons getting assmad because "WHY WON'T HE CREDIT 4CHAN, THAT MASSIVE FAGET SHOULD KILL HIMSELF FUCK OFF" and so forth?
I'm not saying he isn't shit (fuck if I know because I don't really watch his shit), but come on m8s. It's like people don't know how to contain their autism over muh lore. Is it because he's a britbong? Or more-so because anons go autistic when people have names/trips on them period ever?
>>135347495
I disagreed with this anon when he posted the statue but the sks in this photo doesn't look fucking anything like that statue guys
>>135344535
I expected to explore a castle and that is exactly what happened. Anor Londo is the castle of the kingdom that is Lordran. Your entire time playing Dark Souls is you exploring the kingdom.
>>135342574
I hope the dual katana becomes very popular, all the hours I spent farming for pure bladestone will finally pay off.
>>135347495
The ends of the crossguard flair out like in the statue, sword does narrow inward to the crossguard, but it's different.
>>135347664
>mfw dunking katana fags out of the air with my Winged Knight Halberd
>>135347664
>PCfriends will never know the grief of pain pure bladestones
Anybody want to help me kill aavaa? Soul memory is 1 mil (Scholar of the first sin).
>>135347664
LMAO 2KAT!!!
2KAT!!1
>>135347752
>>135347664
xD sweet frog posts bro
>>135342574
Anyone got a link to that vid? IGN's channel is a mess.
>>135347835
>mfw people getting upset at fun frog images
>>135347835
Found the katana kid
stop summoning giant kid retard host
>>135347819
>that demon souls doujin
I was expecting her to get disgustingly fat.
>>135347938
He's invading.
>>135342528
If the First-Born is anyone it's Andre. Given the fact he is still around after what I can only assume is thousands of years and totally fine. His sister Gwynevere is also around and totally fine as she is the Queen of Lothric currently and either the wife or mother of Holy King Lothric. Solaire is just some guy looking for his own sun. Which is why he is so likable. He is positive and jolly in this extremely oppressive world and just wants to make things better. There is nothing special about him other than the fact he is the only person in the series who actually has hope for the future and fights for it.
>>135347819
I'm still not 100% sure why the Adjudicator stabbed himself with the meat cleaver.
>>135348057
don't kick me if I counter it
>>135347752
Halberd huh? Don't mind if I shrek your shit with my dual maces.
>>135348147
my guess is he fell over on it like a dumb ass.
>>135347557
I can't speak for newer anons that were here before the time when vaati was /v/ermin, but the bitterness from non-newfags is more or less the fact that he created a career by taking and regurgitating /v/ memes as videos. Most of his prepare to cry "lore" came from a mix of shit straight out of the old dark souls generals on /v/ before /vg/ even existed, and info ripped straight out of ENB lore videos back when he actually made anything worth watching.
This recent plagiarism shit (which is actual, literal plagiarism) is unrelated. He stole some guys 90-page fanfiction off of reddit and summarized it in a video (including direct quotes) without crediting the author, and tried to pedal it as his own original ideas. That's different from making a name for yourself by spouting /v/ memes. That's literally stealing the idea sand words of another person, which were made public for free on good faith. What's worse, it's stealing those words for profit.
Becoming a literal e-celebrity by parroting /v/ memes and OC makes you pathetic.
Ditching the people that made you e-famous in favour of reddit because they're easier to shill to makes you a kike
Stealing literal fanfiction from reddit and claiming it as your own for profit makes you a plagiarist
Vaati is all of these things, which is why he is most-deservedly mocked by anybody beyond his mindless patreon hugbox.
>>135348226
>All that no range
Enjoy my footsies and beyblade attacks, mace-boi
>just tried jump attacking against a Ciaran cosplay
I'm fucking retarded
Nice parry btw.
>>135347938
>Getting mad about getting killed over having a retarded build
BAKA DESU SENPAI
>>135348379
l'd rather play with lucifer than you're underaged hacking gayness
>>135348503
>wanting to be around lucy ever
Whoa calm down anon
>tfw play Dark Souls after playing DMC and try to do a Stinger
I'm dumb
Whoever has the bandit knife only build, you are pretty fucking brave.
Nice comeback
>>135346363
>>135346504
>>135346524
>>135346995
>Truth is, Solaire was a speculative fag that saw that statue and decided to cosplay as Gwyn's first born son.
That sounds like a solid dark souls story.
Joking aside he might as well just be impersonating or rolling with that gear just because he got his hands on it and there might not be any relation, or maybe he met Gwyn first son and got the sword from him.
Carrying a sword isn't a good argument as anyone can carry anyone else swords lol.
>>135348324
You got nothing on me
How does Flynn's ring even work?
I see the same stats when I'm at 40% load as when i'm at 70% load. What gives?
How do I not suck at dueling?
>>135349045
Giants, giants, giants. Become unstoppable.
>>135348740
beasthunter saif in bloodborne is fun as hell. It has a few stinger-like moves that send you so far forward. Always surprised other people at first.
>>135349061
You spent too much time posting anime and not enough time playing the game.
>>135349061
git gud
>>135348759
I made it to counter all the fucking greatweapons that were there about an hour ago
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/490864
Poisestab nigga
>>135348925
You don't find Solaire that far away from Andre. Solaire seems the sort he would give his sword to.
>>135349045
it works with your max equip load, not current
10 vit and third dragon ring lets you get the most out of it
dunked
>>135349501
i keep throwing out the rapier poke thinking
"nah, he aint gonna parry that"
And he do.
is there a more satifying feel than ruining a ratfag?
>running through grave of saints for toxic mist
>get summoned as a grey
>pop a seed of giants and use silver talisman
>returning to your world...
>>135349309
Thanks! I now understand.
>>135349571
You can use a seed of giants as a grey phantom?
>>135347767
Help please ;_;
>>135349571
>using a seed
>as a phantom
nah
I've sunk 750 hours on DaS2 pvp but I'm new to DaS 1 pvp, how the fuck do I counter backstabs? It's so God damn annoying
this motherfucker and his shenanigans
>>135349934
You backstab them first
So, I've played DS1 and 2 a few times through each, but I've NEVER ever made a big dick bully invader douche style character.
You know the kind. The ones with 99+ humanity just roflstomping people still trying to get through sen's funhouse.
Which game is better for playing as a bully?
I wanna try it.
What do I build? Where do I go? What's the "for retards" guide for this?
>>135348232
>Adjudicator will never wrap his long slimy tongue around you and voraciously slurp the cum out of your puny cock time and time again, until, he's satisfied with your fluids and demands more, gulping you down. As you begin to digest in his tummy beller fluids, you slip out of his wound, leading him to pick you up, beginning the cycle again forever.
>>135349934
>I've sunk 750 hours on DaS2 pvp
You are beyond any help
>I need to be a Warrior of Sunlight member to use Sunlight Spear
But I wanted to role playing as a servant of Gwynevere so being in the Princess Guard was kind of important
Aaaand there goes the FC host, cool.
>>135350193
just learning to parry with the hornet ring still works. It'll OHKO a lot of unprepared people especially if with the demon's great hammer.
>>135348059
>>135349293
I do like the idea of Andre being it but aside from both NPC's having some resemblance, which might just be due to technical limitations or design style, his longevity, and what else do we have to go for?
>fighting Ciaran
>actual invader appears
>oneshots host
>turn around
>Ciaran runs up the stairs
>invader oneshots for 2,080 damage
>warp out because host is dead
>>135349934
By continue to playing DaS2 because DaS1 pvp is absolute trash
I played every souls and bloodborne twice and I literally never invaded. I like to duel people but just didnt, I dont really know why.
I'm planning to start invading on DS3. Will I miss much only doing it in that game? Should I start invading in DS1 to get a hang on how it works?
>>135350492
A wild GiantKid alt appeared!
>>135350492
>fighting Ciaran
But phantoms can't harm NPCs
>>135350309
What because I got used to DaS2 pvp? It's a lot better and the reason I didn't even try DaS1's pvp fampai, but seen as DaS3 is going to be like DaS1 again I want to try it out
>>135350449
Then don't use sunlight spear.
>>135350267
neck yourself
>>135350457
The fact that he was originally supposed to be the first born and moved a statue to allow you into the Kiln of the first flame. It's why he has unique animations. It just didn't make the final cut but DaS3 might bring the idea back and he could very easily move something allowing you access to the final boss. Because apparently you can't kill him for good in DaS3 so he might be plot relevant.
>>135350492
He just invaded me too. Fucked one shot me with a katana.
>>135350449
>Princess Guard
Jesus, I forgot this existed. Why was every covenant in DaS fucking broken and worthless? I'm genuinely surprised Darkwraiths worked.
>>135350526
Welp, this general really is dead
>>135350691
There's no difference.
>>135350784
Sounds like you were outskilled by nipponjin steel.
Anyone pick S&S up recently? Only just got past the first night but it's been fun so far. Nice to kill time before the release next month.
Decided to be an old black chef.
>>135350727
DaS3 is going to be like DeS not DaS.
>>135350807
The only reason why Darkwraiths works is that it's the closest to the original DeS invasion system.
>>135350492
had to lay down all my prism stones again ;_;
>>135350961
What is that game?
>>135350961
I didn't even know that it came out.
Is getting cornered by bosses still a big problem?
>>135351098
2D Souls-lite-like-clone.
I'm looking forward to the Nip release and people trying co-op for bosses and areas whose names they can't read.
>Anyone want to co-op in the fire area?
>I need help with the ice boss
>>135351119
Think it technically released today, like 23 hours ago at midnight.
Only fought one boss so far, just played a bit before bed, but being cornered wasn't an issue.
>>135351098
salt and sanctuary. I'd wait on user reviews before thinking about buying it. It's an indie souls like so it's critic scores most likely will be inflated.
>>135351224
>Implying there is more than one ice boss
>>135351014
Yea but I can't practice it with a dead game, and the closest thing is DaS1
>>135351156
What is the name? I think it might be neat. Wanna look into it.
>>135351285
I don't think he implied that at all.
>>135351224
>not just soloing everything
>>135351285
There is an ice area and we know at least the dancer and bort are ice bosses.
>>135351224
>I could really use some help in Cthulhu's backyard
im amazed at how awful almost every aspect of ds2 is
weapons do no damage without using robflynn or infusion+clutch ring
infusion scaling is utter trash unless the weapon already did the infused damage typ
poise is a joke that has never worked in my favor, in pve or pvp
phantom hits and shockwaves are far worse than anything ive experienced in des or das1
every enemy is obnoxiously strong in some way, especially the ogres, dogs, mannequins and alonne knights
bosses are either bland generic shit or rehashed shit from earlier games
npc invaders are grossly overpowered, with infinite poise, poise damage and stamina, gear and damage that no player would have at the level you find them, and the ability to magically roll out of every attack
>solaire is actually doing well in PvP
>end up switching back to lautrec because curved sword parrying is the funnest thing since the invention of fun
>>135351250
Interesting, I remember it being a problem in the early impressions I read about a year ago.
>>135351325
Pepper and Refuge.
>>135350807
Covenants were an error.
>>135351325
Salt and Sanctuary, PC release is later, but it's on PS4 now. Not a lot of reviews from what I saw, but it's only 18 bucks. From the trophies, I saw a lot of boss fights, and I liked the upgrade tree. I think it's fun, but I haven't played that long.
>>135350961
It looks like shit, I have no idea how it ever got any actual media interest
I'm in favor of games taking influence from some of the stronger elements of Souls games, but S&S strikes me as parody at best and outright plagiarism at worst
Poor man's Souls isn't automatically worthwhile just because it's a sidescroller
BTW I only go invincible when I'm going against that ciarian fag
stupid gets his revenge!
Time for TWO rapier fighting
>>135351514
Covenants were a mistake
Covenants were a mess
Covenants were a joke
Covenants were a big fat mistake
>>135351594I just feel like I am scrub tanking through everything, man. I'm getting parried like a chump.
>katana dude invades again
>he goes from red to white to ghost then kills himself
WHAT IS THIS?
>That 1,058 rapier riposte
I'M SO SORRY
>>135350739
You'd think the gods would let it slide that you're worshiping Gywn's daughter instead of his EXILED SON.
Plus Sunlight Spear is so pretty neat
>>135352037
That was legit, 100% luck on my part
>>135351978
White ring
>>135352053
There are only 2 gods worthy of blessing a champion with spears that powerful. One of them is roasting on the barbie of the first flame and the other is an exile.
Worshiping a trap's "art" of his sister isn't going to affords you much in the way of god-given power.
Of the three children of Gwyn which are alive? We know Gwynevere was alive recently enough to be a queen but what about the exiled first born and Gwyndolin?
>>135352120
IT WAS DAS 1!
>>135352278
Cheat engine then
>>135348313
Wait what? Is this true? Got a link to the guy's oc?
>>135352246
Gwyndolin dies to the chosen undead because CU hates traps, and Andre is still alive, much like Mozart.
>>135352246
gwyndolin is in the game m8
where the fuck is lucatiel
i just summoned her for smelter after i talked to her in earthen and shes not showing up at any of her locations
>>135351250
damn, it's only on ps4. I can't play it in bed tonight. I'll have to pick it up in the morning.
>>135352418
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JL5acskAT_2t062HILImBkV8eXAwaqOj611mSjK-vZ8/edit?pref=2&pli=1
A quick google search of the title reveals its author posted it on reddit as a means of distributing it. Vaati has a video not only parroting the content of it, but which quotes directly from it as well.
Literal plagiarism.
How much of an autist am I for wanting to learn how to use a sword because of souls?
Kind of want to learn smithing too.
I really don't deserve to win these.
>>135352746
There are katana swinging weebs in their mother's basements that would cringe at the sight of you googling "how do blacksmit???" Because you played a videogame.
>>135352746
both are a lot, lot harder than you think.
Smithing especially.
>>135352746
I'd expect something like this more from a Mount & Blade thread.
>>135351978
That's this nerd, watch out for him. No more summons for this bully.
>>135351276
>It's an indie souls like so it's critic scores most likely will be inflated.
This. Nobody dares to be critical of Souls anymore. Remember when Dark Souls 2 came out and still got higher review scores than Dark Souls 1 and Demon's Souls? That just hurts the series because it creates false hype for games that don't deserve such critical praise. Same goes with these indie games. They look like uninspired shit so far, but they're getting high praise.
>>135351554
>I have no idea how it ever got any actual media interest
It's a Souls clone. Souls is what is trendy right now. So whenever there is a Souls clone game of any type, it'll get media coverage, because the media knows that the Souls fanbase is obsessed with playing Souls clones.
>I'm in favor of games taking influence from some of the stronger elements of Souls games, but S&S strikes me as parody at best and outright plagiarism at worst
Same here. Not a big fan of these Souls clones at all. These games have no unique identity. What they're basically doing is just riding on the success of Souls by making games specifically to appeal to Souls fans who want more Souls games. I really hope this fad dies out soon.
>>135352746
Smithing and proper swordplay is a pretty fun thing. Especially if you make the swords you fight with. Try and find a group that has practical swordfighting nearby.
>>135352746
learning swordplay is relaxing and gives full body strength if you do it along with armor weight training
smithing is expensive and complicated though
>>135352225
Yeah I guess Gywnevere wouldn't have the authority to give something like the spear, But I feel like if anything, the Queen/Princess of Sunlight would have a better word than the exiled god. I just think its dumb.
>>135352956
>those swings
Fucking keke, I'd rollBS that peice of shit before he knew what was even happening.
>>135352956
Looks pretty gay senpai
>>135352746
I picked up a few fencing classes because of vidya rapiers, it was fantastic. Pick up swordplay, sure, it's great stuff.
Smithing is dangerous, hard, and expensive so it's your life on that one.
>>135352574
Holy fucking shite you're right, no mentions, no description links, nothing, assuming it's the 11 minute video explaining the lore of Bloodborne what a fucking jew
>>135352974
The princess is gone, nigga. Left.
She ain't there no more
What you are being blessed by is a man in a dress.
Also Freud has a lot to say about a person whose got a swarm of snakes in their pants. That boy ain't right.
>>135352956
The zweis are the capoeras of swords?
>Ricard's rapier has those sick R2s
>Rapier has lunge and highest possible riposte damage in the game
Decisions...decisions
>>135353016
>>135353078
its training
hes swinging like that to get a feel for the weight of the sword and so he doesnt throw his arm out during combat
>>135352956
Is he preparing for some movie scene or something? Because that doesn't look like what real swordplay would look like. If I wanted to chop someone with a sword, I'd be swinging that sword much more quickly instead of dancing around with it.
>>135352925
It's really that an indie souls like game will appeal to that one guy at every game site that shits his or her pants over indie games and souls like games. Indies and souls likes are still perceived as underdogs and often times get a bump in review scores. Editors OK coverage of these games because souls fans are so fanatical that it'll get clicks.
>>135353276
Who cares, the guy's a fucking scrub. I could definitely reaction parry his slow ass R1s, and I don't even want to see his shitty R2s.
R8 my build
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls
>>135352574
>>135353150
vaati is the soflo of dark souls
>>135353576
pretty good/10
>>135350961
>Paladin starts with HP regen ring
>>135353576
Anal prolapse/10
>>135353167
Broken statue vs Trap illusion?
>>135353547
>actual discussion
>start memeing
>>135353720
You started by posting a memesword
>>135353701
More like moonlight vs sunlight. No matter how far the sun has set, it will always be brighter than the moon.
>>135353720
>some retard who played Dork Souls thinks he's going to go down to the local sword club and start swinging a zweihander just like in my japanese vidya germs
>Actual discussion
>>135353809
Thus was the origin of the line 'to kill the envious moon.'
>>135353414
Why would you move full speed when warming up/learning the motions?
I can't wait for March 24 to come so that we can see what the rest of the bosses of the game will be like.
Because so far the four bosses we've seen are all middling at best to utter shit at worst. Middling would be Bordt and Dancer. Shit would be Iudex and Rotting Greatwood.
Sad that the game is starting off with such shit bosses. Bloodborne, for better or for worse, put Gascoigne at the very start and that is one of the highest moments in the game.
I hope the Dragon covenant gies you a body rather like in DaS and not armor like in 2.
Who else is making a bottom heavy female specifically for this reason?
Thanks to every one for participating! It was fun
Final grudge match went to janus
Every one played great though
Will host more FC in the near future!
>>135353978
I think Greatwood is better than shit. I like the idea of a big boss you can only hit in certain spots, instead of just wailing on their fucking ankles. It's what Bed of Chaos should have been.
It's a solid 6/10 boss I think.
>>135353985
It was an honor fighting you janus, I felt satisfied those two times you parried me because it was a good fight
>>135353985
Thanks for hosting. Looking forward to the next one.
>>135353985
>everyone played great.
Don't lie.
Lying is bad.
I had fun though, thanks.
>>135353978
>Iudex
>shit
I think he's better than Asylum Demon.
maximillian Dood is streaming eleum loyce and when aurheim invaded him he was like I'M SURE THIS GUY IS FROM 4CHAN lmao
>>135354246
You even suck at croping images.
>>135354246
I suck at editing too.
>>135354383
You suck at not being a bully.
>>135353978
Ludex is the best of the 3 tutorial bosses we've had though.
>>135354370
End yourself
>>135354443
its ok. I deserve it.
>>135354471
>Ludex
>L
no
>>135354246
You had your moments stupid, shush
you took out mr crystal moonlight sword when he was on a big win streak
i can host in sotfs if anyone wants
i got a few characters in varying sm ranges
>>135354517
>not witnessing lewdxxx
>>135354471
The only good tutorial boss in the series is Cleric Beast/Father Gascoigne.
Vanguard/Phalanx is shit.
Asylum Demon is shit.
Last Giant is shit. Dragonrider is worse shit.
Cleric Beast and Father Gascoigne are the best.
Iudex is garbage.
>>135353978
>ludex
>shit
compare it to last giant or asylum demon
i do think the greatwood looks pretty shit though, many of the attacks can't seem to be avoided because when you get in close the camera can't observe much
>>135354885
No, compare it to Father Gascoigne or Cleric Beast.
>>135354395
If you were the guy with the Elite Knight Helmet and the fancy cloak you beat me up a few times
>>135354653
I thought that the beast in Iosefka's clinic was the tutorial boss.
Anyway we should wait for the final release before talking shit about my man Iudex
>>135354653
Fuck off.
Ludex's moveset is on par with Gascoine teir.
He's fucking great, and you'll change your tune when you fight him on release day in April.
Why do people dislike Iudex? He looks awesome, especially for a first boss.
>>135354653
>The only good tutorial boss in the series is Cleric Beast/Father Gascoigne.
They're not even tutorial boss.
>>135355061
Because the big guy in armor with a big weapon meme.
Dark Souls 2 hatred is affecting Dark Souls 3.
>>135355061
shitposting
he looks great
>>135355061
I fucking love his weird/clunky movement. Really looks like a reanimated armor.
>>135355061
He looks cool but kinda slow and predictable.
I think it fit nicely as a tutorial boss.
>>135352890
>>135352893
>>135352954
>>135352956
>>135353083
I know both are going to be difficult, that makes it fun.
I'm 6'6", so given time I'm sure I'll be able to learn to use a sword.
Regarding smithing, my plan in life is basically to learn as much as i can about mechanical/electrical/robotic engineering, methods for making stuff, and further down the line medicine. Once I've learnt an enormous amount I'm going to start work on some insane shit.i know that's an outlandish goal, but either i try or i fail.
Smithing will be useful.
>>135353978
Lewd-ex is the best tutorial boss a souls game has ever had. Comparing him to asylum demon would be an outright joke. He straight up outclasses Cleric Beast as a boss, blatantly so. The demo builds we've seen, which all have admitted to having the difficulty radically lowered for the sake of gaming journalists that aren't actually capable of gaming, have revealed his only flaw to be his HP pool (the thing that's been reduced to make him easier). Comparing him to Cleric Beast is actually probably unfair. He's more akin to Gascoigne and probably falls short in that respect because Gascoigne is 100% exceptional, one of the top 10 bosses of the entire series.
Vordt's moveset is mediocre and he's mid-low tier as a result of the blatant blind-spot he exposes in the fight. He's much, much too bloodborne in design. However, in being bloodborne-esque, he's no worse than bosses like Bloodletting beast, who are also simple checks of "do you know where the blindspots are?" His second phase need a faster "get off of me" move to punish people sitting underneath him in order to be a truly good boss.
The tree is solid. It's a different design of boss that's less exciting by nature, but the puzzly elements to it make it a more cerebrally-focused challenge which is, in and of itself not a terrible thing. It reminds me of the Gapiing Dragon in terms of gameplay analogy (or Freja, for DaS2 fans) but is absolutely, fundamentally better than both in that it makes much better use of that gameplay paradigm and is much better focused within it. The fact that the first phase is primarily centered around luring the boss into attacking the mobswarm is really unique and interesting. The fact that the mobswarm disappears entirely in phase 2 in favour of the boss' moveset more than doubling is excellent. The one flaw of the greatwood in its design is the fact that the camera in the second phase is awful due to the claustrophobic arena and frequently gets trapped within walls.
>>135355262
Sad if true. Dark Souls 2's problem with big armored bosses was a matter of quantity and quality. It wasn't just their presence that made them bad. Shit, some of Dark Souls and Dark Souls 2's best bosses were large humanoids with swords. There just happen to be too many that were too similar in Dark Souls 2.
>>135354653
Gascoigne and the Cleric Beast aren't tutorial bosses. Saying they are is like saying that the Taurus Demon/Capra Demon are tutorial bosses.
>>135355061
Because "muh difficulty" memes. Also, there was sort of a tradition where the first boss was supposed to kill you on your first encounter, but you get something special if you manage to win.
>>135354961
I was.But I also had a scumbag tryhard build with 1800 hp. and got parried like a bitch at least 6 times
EPIC BOSS BATTLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU5yd3ZKhhY
>>135354971
>wolf in clinic
>tutorial boss.
It doesn't have a boss health bar. It doesn't have boss music. You aren't fog-gated in. It's not a tutorial boss. Or even a boss for that matter.
>>135355061
>unimaginative first half moveset that is no more creative than Dragonrider's
>ugly-ass Old King Doran armor
>ugly-ass Bardiche weapon
>ugly-ass second phase with that low-texture slimey goopey thing covering his body
>second phase is harder only because you're wrestling with the camera being obstructed by his ugly-ass slime
>>135355238
Why not? They're the first bosses you fight in the game, just like Asylum, Vanguard/Phalanx, and Last Giant/Dragonrider.
>>135355262
>Because the big guy in armor with a big weapon meme.
Nope. I love Fume. I love Alonne. But Iudex is shit for way more reasons that big guy with armor.
>>135354930
who cares about 6weaponsborne
>>135355647
>putting elite knight helmet on random sets.
Yep, "Faggot" sounds right.
>Final boss of DS3 is a bonfire
>>135355647
I was TWO?! Rapier man, Solaire, and Lautrec
Interestingly I dunked Ciaran a few times comparatively
>>135355569
lmao 2rider
lmao 2sentinel
lmao 2lurker
lmao 2kat
lmao 4loyce
lmao ganksquad"boss"
lmao 2smelter
>>135355685
>I DON'T LIKE HIM BECAUSE HE'S UGLY
Wow, great argument, chief.
>>135355657
>soul arrow
that was fucking sick
>>135355778
Yeah I think I only fought you once. I remember it being close. Nice cosplay.
>>135355723
>go through fog gate
>just a bonfire that looks like a fully kindled fire in DaS
>your sword just goes through ti
>>135355723
>beat final boss
>go to link the flame
>bonfire can't be interacted with
>fog door still active
>"Dark spirit Solaire of Astora has invaded"
>>135355685
>Why not? They're the first bosses you fight in the game, just like Asylum, Vanguard/Phalanx, and Last Giant/Dragonrider.
Asylum is a tutorial boss. Vanguard is a tutorial boss. Iudex is a tutorial boss. Phalanx, Last Giant and Dragonrider aren't tutorial bosses. They're way too far in the game to be considered that.
Father Gascoigne and Cleric Beast should be compared to Vordt instead. They're about the same distance from the beginning of the game.
>>135355657
When will mage pussies be erased? Why ever go mage the first run through?
>>135355828
magic uses FPs just like WAs
>>135355685
Artorias is the worst boss of all time
>Ugly ass broken sword
>Ugly ass limp arm
>Ugly ass slime
>Ugly ass broken armor
>Second phase is only harder because damage buff
>>135355828
I think that's the mana/blue bar
>>135355939
>damage buff
lmao what damage buff
literally git gud
>>135356024
>Camera obstruction
lmao what camera problems
literally git gud
>>135355657
So do the bosses in the footage the streamers and IGN have put out have lower health so the people playing don't get butthurt and are actually able to progress, or will he really bruise like a summer peach in the actual game?
Not that he should be balls-deep hard or anything but this seems purposefully easy.
>>135353980
Muh dick
>>135355543
Hey man, non-ironic good post. I agree.
>>135356087
Yeah they were nerfed
>>135355543
> which all have admitted to having the difficulty radically lowered
The only way his difficulty has been lowered is his reduced HP. Otherwise, unless they make him more aggressive and give him more moves, he'll be easy.
>The one flaw of the greatwood in its design is the fact that the camera in the second phase is awful due to the claustrophobic arena and frequently gets trapped within walls.
I'd also add that the acid rain spam and the ultra slow pace of the fight make for an incredibly boring fight. It's boring to watch, and I would imagine it would be even more boring to fight.
>>135355590
Depending on who you fight first, either Cleric or Gassy is a tutorial boss. Any boss that is the first boss you fight is the tutorial boss. Plain and simple. Stop trying to redefine words.
>>135355709
>>135355939
(you)
>>135355812
Yes, please ignore my arguments about unimaginative movesets and camera problems.
>>135355921
>They're way too far in the game to be considered that.
20-30 minutes into the game is too far in? Jesus, the lengths people go to defend shitty bosses like Iudex. They even redefine words. A tutorial boss is the first boss you encounter in the game. Plain and simple.
>>135356416
>(you)
This is how you know someone lost an argument.
>>135356087
Asylum Demon also goes down in a few hits. I think the tutorial bosses are more about introducing you to the way boss fights work, and less about being a real boss fight. The other two bosses we've seen have pretty decent health pools.
>tfw I always max out luck in every RPG I can since it's usually the most fun stat
>tfw it's probably shit in DaS3 and I'm not good enough at these games to waste a shit ton of levels on a bad stat
I'm so torn /dsg/. If there's an early game luck-scaling weapon I'll probably go for it but otherwise I don't know
>>135356239
THIGHS
>>135355723
That sounds like it could be fun. I hope there's some sort of fight with Ludleth of courland though.
>>135355939
I like him, only for the flippy thing tho
Manus is a better HIGH ENERGY boss
>>135355657
I know you are just shitposting but goddamn, the amount of detail in his arena is amazing
>>135356564
bleed build up scales with luck, so you could use a flamberge, morning star, bandits knife etc
>>135356564
It does affect poison and bleed weapons we know so far, bleed is like it was in ds1 which was pretty good, poison aint bad either so it could be pretty viable. I was thinking about making my first character 40 luck just for the drops and respecing later if it was a bad choice but I think they'll make it viable.
>>135355657
The best part of this is that the offered context later.
Gamespot sent 3 "journalists" to cover the early access event and the one of those 3 to play the sorcerer (the well-known easy-mode class) was the one female employee. That female employee also apparently didn't make it through the high wall of Lothric because out of all the footage that Gamespot uploaded of the event, the ONLY video featuring footage from that employee is this single, awful video of her spamming soul arrow at the first boss and still only barely winning.
I'm not saying that she didn't deserve to be there because she's a woman, but I will readily and happily say that she didn't deserve to be there as a gamer or as a journalist, and that she ONLY got an opportunity to be there because of her second X chromosome.
The only thing I find more amusing than gaming journalism pretending to be real journalism is when people utterly, and in the most un-self-aware fashion, happen to conform completely to negative, derogatory stereotypes
>>135356416
>Yes, please ignore my arguments about unimaginative movesets and camera problems.
I intended to, because they're equally as subjective as your other points, just not nearly as retarded. You haven't touched the game and you're already complaining about camera problems? Based on footage? Get real.
As for the unimaginative moveset, I don't particularly agree or care. It's exactly what it needs to be, especially for the first boss of the game. I don't want him to twirl around on his weapon like a fucking stripper or do other retarded shit for the sake of appearing more "imaginative". Freja shooting a fucking laser was imaginative, and it was also fucking retarded. A big guy in armor is trying to kill you. You don't need to have a good imagination to figure out how he's gonna try to do it.
>>135356416
Bloodborne's "tutorial" is running through Iosefka's clinic, dying, and then reading the messages in the Hunter's Dream. There is no tutorial boss, just like in the vast, vast majority of games.
>>135355657
Mages are gay as fuck unfun shit.
They need to just make magic have movesets like weapons. A catalyst, and a rolling attack does X spell, a running attack does Y spell etc.
Honestly, why not?
>>135356416
>any boss that is the first boss you fight is the tutorial boss
But that's wrong. The tutorial boss is the boss of the tutorial area. Dark Souls 2 and BB don't have one.
>>135356886
Central Cathedral ward is definitely the tutorial area of bloodborne. Just because it doesn't have developer messages on the ground doesn't mean it isn't very blatantly a mandatory area where the player is given space and time to familiarize themselves with the basic controls and fundamental mechanics of the game in an environment of radically reduced difficulty.
https://youtu.be/yaqXp-o5vbE
GUYS NEW HERALD CLASS GAMEPLAY
fromign
>>135356886
Yes they do.
Bloodborne's tutorial boss is canonically cleric beast. The level design pushes you there with the most obvious route.
Gascoine can be the first boss, but the way to him is more roundabout than cleric, and because he moves you to a new area and is much tougher than cleric, it's not really a thing.
Cleric Beast is the tutorial boss of Bloodborne. The tutorial boss however can be skipped for little loss. It's a good method. If you're gud, you don't need to waste your time on him. Just do gascan and save time.
>>135356737
>>135356804
OH SHIT! Really?! Not him but I thought it was only bleed/poison resist. That's fucking awesome. I can have a luck/poison build on the same character.
Managed to finally beat Lud and Zallen after skipping them on all my other playthroughs. Fuck that zone leading up to them, I'm glad I could do it in one shot.
>>135357059
Central Yharnam, I meant. I had a bit of a brain fart while naming that.
>>135356672
Yeah quite an upgrade from DaS2
ive been using silver serpent ring all game and i just got to crypt, fully upgraded my gear, just under 1mil sm
its still telling me that black gulch, iron keep, and tseldora are my best bets for online
is this normal? i thought itd tell me amana or the castle were more active
>>135357068
>spear gameplay
good to fall asleep to
>>135357068
Herald is Temple Knight from DeS?
>>135357068
Nice clickbait, ign.
>>135356859
It's really only unfun if you spam only soul arrows/spears and don't use any weapons. If you actually mix up your spells it can be pretty neat specially on a spell sword and not to mention utility spells that are often overlooked.
>>135357068
>that downgrade
>>135356509
No, it's how you respond to shitposting and non-arguments Here's another (you) just for you.
>>135356837
>You haven't touched the game and you're already complaining about camera problems? Based on footage? Get real.
Every single footage that has come out in the past few weeks of Iudex has shown camera problems almost as bad as Darkbeast Paarl. One of the latest videos, shown at >>135355657, is not as bad by simple virtue of the player being a sorcerer/caster so he can afford to stay far back and not have to suffer having the boss cover 80 percent of his screen.
>I don't want him to twirl around on his weapon like a fucking stripper or do other retarded shit for the sake of appearing more "imaginative".
He doesn't have to twirl around or be fancy. Gascoigne uses almost the same moves as the player but his moveset is much more imaginative than Iudex. He's also more fun to watch, because it really feels like you're fighting for your life when you fight Gassy, whereas in Iudex you're fighting an easily exploitable knight fight that has all the same weaknesses of just about all knight fights in the past Souls games.
>>135356859
>Honestly, why not?
Because your system is awful and not everyone wants to marry a claymore/zweihander for eternity.
>>135355926
My favorite thing about BB is that magic isn't viable or even available until well into the game so there's not a whole class of shit players that never learned how to play the game
Out of the Loyce Greatsword, Ivory Sword, Burnt Ivory King UGS, and Bonefist which is the most fun to make a build out of? Save the Bonefist I rarely see the others.
>>135357068
>throw doesn't do any damage
>>135357336
I cant wait to pvp magebabbies who only know what soul arrow spam is.
>>135355657
>roll
>roll
>pew
>roll
>roll
>roll
>pew
What a truly epic fight indeed. Glad to know that Miyazaki has learned how to design bosses that can counter passive sorcery spam. It's taken him since 2009 and three Souls games (DeS, DaS1 and BB), but he's finally learned it.
>>135357229
I'm not from IGN I just googled "Dark Souls 3" :(
>>135357301
I know :(
>>135357068
I keep expecting him to hit the enemy back to rally back health
Thinking about that Mound-Makers covenant that's been seen since a couple weeks back, it got me thinking: What is the big gimmick of it, and how does it differ from the usual red invasion shenanigans and dickery?
Any ideas on what the big thing is that you'll end up doing when you finally join it, other than invading fagets of course?
>>135357301
Wait what?
>>135357464
I really, really, really hope From brings back spellparrying. The best way to fuck with a pve-only magebaby was to just casually flick all their spells away while slow-walking towards them.
>>135357332
>Every single footage that has come out in the past few weeks of Iudex has shown camera problems almost as bad as Darkbeast Paarl
And yet no one has complained about them.
>Gascoigne uses almost the same moves as the player but his moveset is much more imaginative than Iudex
Are you retarded? How is Gascoigne's moveset imaginative when he used the same moveset as the player?
I don't think you know what imaginative means.
>>135357557
dont members of the covenant remove some vertebrae from their spine or something to join
>>135356815
I'm eager to get in on this drama and would like some sauce because Google didn't produce obvious results.
>>135357504
dat panic roll at the end was epic
Guys I really REALLY hope Dark Souls 3 has some good and unique characters. Everything we've seen so far is ehh.
>>135356886
I'm of mixed feelings about this. On one hand I consider the tutorial to be the area you play through before you reach the central hub of the game. Whatever that may be I consider the tutorial. It's obvious in DeS, DaS1, DaS2 and DaS3 but not with BB. With the other games it's a clear area where you familiarize yourself with the game before you start the game for real.
With Bloodborne it feels like the area between the clinic and the first lamp big gate shortcut would be the tutorial. Beyond that the area is too long and real for me to consider it a tutorial. Cleric may be an easy first boss but the whole area leading up to him is too complex for it to be a tutorial. I would say Bloodborne doesn't have a tutorial boss but it does have a tutorial area.
>>135357716
Eygon looks neat. cool that he has his sisters face on his shield which he can prod to moan if he wants
>>135357068
So neither Lobos nor this guy picked up the ashen estus flask @0:17
Should we take bets on whether they will be more emphasized in the final build? I would guess there's going to be at least a sign in front of them
>>135357830
They had a big glowing PICK ME UP fucking thing in a big central point with a dead oscar look alike.
If they missed it, their fucking fault.
>>135357830
I doubt it. People who can't find the ashen estus shouldn't have found regular estus in DAS
I have a feeling that part of the meta in ds3 is going to be everyone maxing out the blue estus and just carrying around a pyro flame with warmth. We saw in Oro's footage its pretty much the same as it was in ds2 and even if it takes up one full mana bar it still might be worth taking for all the extra spells/WAs.
>>135357504
>tutorial boss is easy
>WOW MIYAZAKI FUCKED UP BIG TIME WHEW BOY
>>135357830
Makes me remember how everyone missed the ladder to the first lamp outside Iosefka's so they put a fucking lever at its side
>>135356549
I liked the Vanguard in DeS's tutorial. You only have one chance to kill him. If you do manage to do it you get rewarded with some upgrade materials and healing items.and a falcon punch
>>135358028
>Implying WA's won't be shitty, useless showy things
>Implying Obobobo determines the meta of an entire game
>>135357829
He doesn't look cool to me, his armor is gay as fuck and he's a clone of previous characters.
>>135357601
>expecting journalists and e-celebs invited to promote a game to actually complain about them
Like they did for when they were invited to play Dark Souls 2 in press events before release, right?
>I don't think you know what imaginative means.
Okay, fine. Imaginative might not be the right word. But Gassy's moveset is definitely more fun to watch and fight against than Iudex's and requires more thought and effort to dodge and counter than the simple passive backrolls and siderolls of Iudex.
>>135358028
warmth is heavily nerfed and all you would have to do is be in your opponents as well. You can even be more agro than him and force him out.
>>135358028
> everyone maxing out the blue estus
Well that's kinda obvious.
>>135358028
ds3 meta is estoc turtle
>>135357949
>>135358024
I'm definitely not saying it should be emphasized, I just think the team will review the footage and see how shit most players are. I'm guessing something similar happened with Oscar since you need to talk to him to get the F2 East Key to progress
>>135358185
>Implying Obobobo determines the meta of an entire game
Whoa man, I'm not the one who's doing that here. I only mention him because that's who I saw warmth from.
>>135358212
Its been nerfed? I meant from a pve point of view too.
Post yfw you saw for the first time what the crystal lizards ended up becoming in DS3 when footage started being shown of the starting area.
>>135358198
>>expecting journalists and e-celebs invited to promote a game to actually complain about them
Vaati and Lobos both voiced complaints in their videos. Neither of them mentioned the camera at all. Obviously no one is gonna rail the game but it's not like they're held up at gunpoint and told to praise it. They were even given almost entirely free reign on the footage they showed, they just weren't allowed to show any online content.
>>135357068
They posted six new armor sets and some weapons too
https://youtu.be/VxJ2xKBGrU4
>>135358198
That is because hunter boss fights are the best and Bloodborne has a lot more mobility options than Dark Souls. It requires more thought and effort because it's moving at roughly twice the speed of Dark 3. Bloodborne is always going to take the cake on human-sized enemies because it's a lot more suited to it and is based around mobility and aggression rather than passivity and defense.
I also wouldn't put Papa Petrol and Iudex together as the first bosses. I would say it's Cleric and Iudex and then Bort and Papa Petrol. It's really hard to top Gascoinge as far as early bosses go.
>>135358493
The crystal lizard-equivalents already had a leveled-up form in Bloodborne that fought back when you attacked them so I wasn't terribly surprised.
>>135357192
And the Assassin is essentially Royalty from DeS
>>135358462
yes it's more nerfed than the das2 version
I forgot the source but it is. Also warmth heals enemies as well too in das2, it will probably be the same in das3.
>>135357650
I don't remember which, but it's one of their videos one of the mentions that the sorcerer player was the female of the group. There's no drama, just one of those things that the people over there are very obviously doing their best to avoid saying -that the gurrl gamrr pretending to be a journalist had no business being at an event to play a difficult videogame.
>>135358585
Armor and graphics look great but why are the graphics so shit? It just looks like Bloodborne during the day.
I think it would be cool (abd lore fitting) if you could use humanity as a currency with merchants.
Kind of like insight with Bloodborne but with actual merchants.
>>135358737
>Also warmth heals enemies as well too in das2, it will probably be the same in das3.
Right, but in pve you get chances to just sit for a second.
>>135358585
>Drang Hammers
>that 2kat
Holy boner.
>>135358761
Because it's not a PC exclusive and it's a Jap game.
demon greathammer needs 12 int and faith.
will it be worth the investment or be like shitty ds2 black knight weapons?
>>135358761
BB definitely looks better, but I like the medieval aesthetic and world more so I'm happy.
>>135358838
>Drang Hammers
I feel the same.
>>135358964
i hope its like chime hammer or blacksword
needs int and fai but shits out split damage
>>135342161
>Souls Games General
We not Borne now?
>>135355657
lmao
He'd be alright if he jumped every time a player moved to a certain distance
>>135358585
DRAAAANG
HAMMERRRRRRSSSSS
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!
>>135358838
>>135358998
I'm excited more because it confirms that the Drang Twinspears will be absolutely badass
Holy fuck I hope they change the sound of sunlight blade in DS3 if it returns. I can't stand it in DS2
Do you guys think a Luck build will be viable with bleed weapons?
>>135357068
>Uses heal aid two times in a row at full health right after leaving a bonfire and then gets hit like a bitch
>Doesn't go back to the bonfire that is 10 feet away to get his FP and health back
>Tries to cast heal aid at the enemies half a dozen times
>Presumably dies to Iudex eighty times before barely winning it
Are they just kidnapping literal retards to play these games for them?
>>135358585
>Eastern Set is back
>Shadow Set is back
>Heide Greatlance is back
>Yuria The Witch's clothes are back
REHASH SOULS
>>135358987
Because it's at night time, practically every game looks better at night. The game's are identical otherwise it's retarded.
Demons, Dark and Dark 2 all looked very different from one another. I'm pissed off this looks like a Bloodclone.
>>135359250
QA tester groups are notoriously infamous for being full of both the devs' family members and also the dumbest people on Earth usually.
>>135359250
>Are they just kidnapping literal retards to play these games for them?
It's IGN, anon. They don't need to kidnap retards when they already make up most of their workforce.
>>135358964
demon's fists also have the int/fai requirement. i'm starting to wonder if there isn't a class of STR/magic hybrid weapons with strong FP specials, like bloodborne's wheel/HMS/tonitrus
>>135359250
Huh, I thought he was just trying to test the talisman R2.
>>135359250
>>135359357
I wish I could be a real QA person for a real company sometime because I'm both good at video games and good at figuring out video games and puzzles and shit.
I did QA for my friend's company when they made some games at university, shit's cool. You just force the game to break as many ways as possible in a crammed amount of time.
>>135359235
maybe. there might even be a few weapons that scale with luck like in DeS.
>>135359330
you didn't play Bloodborne I can tell. BB has a few different times of the day through out the game. DaS3 will have that also from what we've seen.
>>135358987
What the hell, I thought the Cleric got a white peasant hat.
>>135358585
Oh, so you can actually parry and riposte Iudex?
I'm assuming that because he still uses his halberd in his second phase, you can still parry and riposte him then.
Well, so much for him being hard.
>>135359513
here's the same area during the day.
I think I'm going to plat das2 before 3 drops, I've already platted des, das and BB. has anyone here got it? seems pretty straightforward, the only real issue is farming the sunlight medals as far as I can see, online is pretty patchy with summons since the game is kinda dead. The rest of the stuff is simple.
kind of an easy plat too considering, just finishing some NPC plots and gets all magic shit. if it included getting all weapons and getting all rings it would be way harder. one thing I definitely notice coming back from BB is just how much stuff there is in 2. tons of weapons, all weapons can be held in in multiple ways + powerstance.
>>135359581
It's part of the cleric set but for some reason Clerics don't get it as part of their starting gear. They also don't get a faith ring like the sorcerer and pyromancer get rings for their casting.
Saw some people talking about Salt and Sanctuary earlier in the thread. Well, I bought it today and played a good deal, so I'll give my impressions. Mostly because everyone here seems to be somewhere between "What is this game?" and "This game is shit. No, I haven't played it, but I know its shit."
It's like..7/10. No not IGN 7/10 where its fucking garbage, but an actual 7/10. It's fun, it's worth the price, its a good way to kill the time till DS3, but it's not some kind of instant classic.
>Combat
Its basically souls in terms of combat. You have your I-frame roll, your shield with varying stability and elemental/ attack type blocking, your light and heavy attacks, etc. There is some variation in that you can do combo light and heavy attacks, jumping and in air attacks, but it's all fairly familiar. It doesn't quite work as well as DS though because the 2d plane means it' sometimes hard to judge when an enemy's combo will keep going in one direction or when he can turn to face you. It's consistant, which moves can switch up and which can't, but it's the sort of thing you have to learn via trial and error.
>Magic
Magic is actually kinda interesting in this game because using it drains your stamina AND slightly reduces your max stamina each time, until you rest at a sanctuary or use a specific item to regen it. These items refill at sanctuaries, just like the health ones, but it makes it interesting because if you just spam fireballs like an idiot you suddenly have no stamina for rolling or blocking.
>Enemies and world
Eh. It feels like souls fanfic crossed with a metal album cover. It's passable but nothing special. They clearly tried, as each little pip on the tech tree has lore, each item has lore, each enemy has lore, it's all very dense. If you end up liking it there's a shit ton to read but I just wasn't interested.
>>135358761
Graphics will never be good in a fromsoft game and will never be the focus.
I'll be honest. If the graphics in DaS1, 2 or 3 (or BB) upset you, you've probably been cuckolded by the western gaming industry.
Here, lemme give you a quick rundown.
In the west, triple -A gaming titles cost hundreds of millions of dollars. Their budgets are comparable to that of hollywood blockbusters in many cases. "Why?" might you ask, well there's a pretty simple reason. Gaming is one of the principle product-movers for hardware companies. Gaming is am product mover because the gaming industry perpetually demands progressively higher-end graphic processors, among other things. THe companies who make graphical processors, among other things, stand to benefit the most from that,. They stand to make more money of the release of a game than the actual company making the game does. So what do they do? They sponsor the game. They help fund gaming companies and publishing companies (who own gaming companies 99% of the time) in forming a budget to fund development. As a major (often primary) sponsor., they get to be part of the production committee, and can sit in on meeting and impose conditions and demands on the developers and the publishers who control the developers. As you might expect, these demands involve performance and graphical fidelity, because those are the aspects of the game that the makers of a videocard care about. As a result of 90% of a game's production budget going towards the research and development necessary to meet the graphical demands imposed by the hardware company who constitutes 95% of the budget's funding, the makreting focuses disproportionately on that graphical fidelity and the technology that makes it possible.
Fromosft, and the japanese game-development industry in general is unique in that it's literally not seen as worth the investment from those companies. As a result, graphics are neither the focus nor the appeal of their games.
>>135359513
>>135359653
Oh shit looks like there's going to be backtracking portions like when the sun goes out in Anor Londo
fuck sake I hate that stuff, but I'm sure they'll find a way to make me love it.
>>135359513
>I can tell
I did so there goes that. BB is a dark game.
>>135359653
I had no idea that the game had a time of day system so I'm happy now. That looks much better.
>>135359658
i can help with that anon
ive been meaning to get all the magics but haven't bothered getting to ng++ to buy them
want to do a coop run 3 fucking times?
>>135359592
>souls bosses
>hard
>>135359368
>demon's fists also have the int/fai requirement.
Shit.
>>135359696
Huh, That reminds me; did anyone find the morning star? It better still be hidden somewhere like usual.
Was the morning star thing in DeS and kings field too?
>>135359746
Demons Souls, Dark Souls 1, and BB look great, 2(just fuck my shit up) and 3(thought it was grey all the time) not so much.
Why the fuck did you write all of that? Are you autistic?
>>135359653
Wait, is the cycle of the day based on beaten bosses like in BB, or is there an actual concept of time?
>>135359923
Morningstar was in DeS and King's Field 2
It was just a shitty hammer in DeS but was valuable early game in KF2 for defeating skeletons
a lot of new shit in DaS3 is taken from BB and I am VERY okay with that. I am excited. Looks like they're taking all the best things from each game in implementing them.
>>135360095
God I fcuking hate The Know
its literal clickbait trash 100% of the time
>>135359235
I think that, on release, Luck will be undertuned and will not scale enough to be a worthwhile improvement to innate buildup of status-effects. Bleed will probably be overtuned on release and be good-to-overpowered even with 0 luck. In other words, Miyazaki will insist that numbers be set such that a 0-luck bleed build and a 50-luck bleed build are about equal because he doesn't give a fuck about builds. The balance team, who are wholly independent of Miyazaki, will then iterate on it gradually until status builds are completely dependent on luck but also generally underpowered because the balance team has a really explicit biased towards footsie-focused gameplay with high-mobility dex weapons that eventually balanced-but-ruined DaS2.
>>135359713
>NPCs
There are NPCS out there, wandering around in the world, just like DS. But there are also Generic shop keeper, black smith, etc NPCs that you can bring to any sanctuary using idols. You spend an idol and that corresponding npc shows up there. These idols are limited too, so you have to be careful where you use them. The "Guide" NPC is particularly good because he allows warping between sanctuaries.
>Gear
There seems to be a great deal of crap out there in the world. Lots of items, equipment, armor, weapons, etc. And you upgrade them in much the same way, turning in specific items and currency to level them up.
>Leveling
Much the same, each enemy drops salt, you use it to upgrade. But instead of just dumping it into a stat, you choose a thing on the tech tree. Teach thing levels a stat or unlocks something. You can unlock more estus analogs, or the ability to wield higher level weapons or armor via this, meaning they're not locked to stats.
>>135360168
>its literal clickbait trash 100% of the time
but the dark souls 3 leak was completely accurate
>>135360168
me too, but they had the best screenshots of DaS3. very spoiler-y though.
Which game did the crumbling world trope the best?
DaS3 seems to purely be based off of that style in of itself.
I do hope that the Bastard Sword makes a return in DS3. That shit ended up as my go-to weaponfu in DS2, loved that shit so much.
So simple, yet it was just so fun to murder everything with it when upgraded.
>>135360095
Wait, this isn't a bloodborne screenshot?
Fuck sake
>>135355926
>>135357464
They should make bosses an other enemies deflect magic or absorb it to go into power modes, that would be awesome.
>Ha! Soul Spear!
>Boss starts growling and glowing.
>It now moves 50% faster and hits 75% harder for 30 seconds seconds.
That would be awesome. Also could a tactical thing, like that knife in BB to turn monsters aggressive towards invaders.
>Invader pursuing mage host
>Host runs into a magical frenzy enemy
>Host uses confusion spell or item and makes the monster aggressive towards invader, follows with a puny soul arrow
>Monster is now frenzied and charges towards invader
>Invader is now running while host fires arrows from a distance.
This game needs more depth.
>>135359857
I've only just started out still on first NG doing what I can.
I have it for ps4 though, there's no cross play is there?
so, encountered a hacker today in DaS at anor londo @SL 55
got summoned as a white to help on O&S, instantaneously petrified and killed, respawned with a fucking parasite on my head
>>135360296
>all those durgens in the sky
Okay, either this is like DS2 where they're just for show, or that place is going to become dragon dildo rape town if they do what I think they might here.
>>135360068
probably like in BB I am guessing.
So I just beat ds2
pretty much the "lore" is you wander around aimlessly killing stonk beings until you get noticed by some queen who wants you to take vendrick's role, but then decides she actually wants it?
and some "getting lost/forgetting ones mission/goal" theme thrown in for pseudo deepness
>>135360496
PvP watchdog
I told you man, I told you dawg
>nothing will ever be as based and a +5 blessed greataxe in DeS
>>135360374
It's back. There was a loading screen with it in one of the japanese streams.
>>135360468
nope, each console has their own server group
>>135360496
Nice. I hope parasites come back in ds3. vagrants/drift items would be cool too.
>>135360547
>DeSfags
I bet you think Flamelurker is a hard boss and one of the greatest boss fights ever.
>>135359967
My Question is: Can you parry him after he goes into Hyper Snake mode?
Haven't seen anyone try, but he still does halberd attacks for what I saw.
>>135359357
One of my closest friends is a QA tester for EA and I hear horror stories all the time.
Long story short, the tester isn't to blame. Most games have a laundry list longer than the karma sutra long before release of all the major, gamebreaking bugs, and millions of minor, lesser issues ranging from imbalances, to exploits to minor texture overlaps. The development team receives this list and then the guy in charge of the development team, pushed down upon by the guy in charge of funding them game and making the most money off of it, disregards the entire list and focuses development somewhere else entirely.
QA testers are the lowest o the low, hierarchy-wise. They'e treated like scum because their input is absolutely 100% worthless. The people who pay big bucks and make big bucks off of game development don't give one quarter of a fuck if there's a major, gamebreaking bug that ruins it. You can't market bugfixes, so you can't move the product by fixing them. That's their philosophy. As long as it works on the average machine anticipated by their experts to be used by their target audience (eg. the most profitable demographic) they don't care about anything else. They pay for QA testers just to have that laundry list should it become profitable in the future to fix those bugs for the sake of PR, because PR events after-the-fact are a secondary source of marketing and thus another source of monetization of their product and moving it proactively.
The QA testers don't fail. The people that pay the QA testers just expect something very, very different from them than what we, the consumers, expect.
>>135358585
Eastern greatsword is my swordfu
>>135360534
yeah DaS2 is pretty retarded. you go to lordran to get uncursed or whatever and then you start killing shit then it becomes your job to become the next monarch instead. Whatever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00g2ZbI3ung
Is Chaos Blade worth using on a minimal 16str/14dex build, or is it only for high dex users?
>>135360238
Hrm. For 18 dollars and something to keep me away from ruining DS3 with spoilers once its out in JPN might be worth it. Playing DS2 and BB just make me want to look up shit from DS3.
>>135360656
I know this is bait, but of course he's a hard boss when it's your first Souls game. Especially since most people do Stonefang Tunnel right after beating the Tower Knight.
>>135360239
>tfw they don't tell you if it's the Inside Gaming team or Rooster Teeth shitters doing an episode
>>135360901
>he's a hard boss!
>but only if it's your first Souls game!
Why don't you use the rest of the usual arguments to defend this shitty boss?
>but only if you don't use magic builds!
>but only if you don't overlevel!
>but only if you don't exploit his idiotic pathfinding!
>but only if you don't accidentally get him stuck!
>but only if you fight him early on in the game!
I love DaS2's themes so much. The stuff about forgetting, the Will, Aldia's speeches, I think they were all great. If the game werent so butchered it could've been as deep as DaS1. They had a lot going for it, a shame it turned out the way it did where everything was either heavy handed or so subtle that it makes it hard to say it was intentional.
I know most of you guys don't care about that stuff and dismiss it as pseudo or hipster shit, but man, I think that game had something special buried in all those shit animations and bosses.
>>135361056
You are definitely an insufferable cunt IRL.
>>135361056
Flanelurker is my favorite.
>>135361101
>I think that game had something special buried in all those shit animations and bosses
It definitely did, which only makes it that much more depressing.
Deep down at the very core was a lot of potential. It's as sad as it gets. At least when a game is shit you can just say it's shit.
But when light shines through the cracks in the shit-caked exterior, you can only sigh and wish that things were better.
>>135361101
early on, at the concept art stage- they might have wanted an open world game.
that got axed. so they instead stuck with the DaS style of world. they designed a few areas, but still wanted to make it a very big world, so it ended up a hybrid of DaS open world and DeS level design
but then they had to downgrade it halfway through because muh consoles couldnt run what they had, and from there they had to salvage what they had already made, and rush everything else, shuffling levels around where needed.
So undead crypt would have been accessed from Earthen peak, (which is why Grave Wardens are there) it's boss would have been the Rotten
Aldia's keep was supposed to be a house of horrors, and be more than a single hallway, and Dragon Airie would have led to Drangleic Castle, situated on the highest point in the game world, accessible only after traversing the dragon nesting grounds in the airie and the rickety rope bridge across the chasm.
Its the reason the opening cinematic shows what vaguely looks like Dragon Shrine when talking about Drangleic. the cinematic was made before the downgrade, and before development got fucked halfway.
the time travel element would have been a more heavily featured plot element, which would have expanded on the Herald, where you met her as a loli and gave her the feather she later returns to you aged.
in the intro, you encounter the tree with the lightning bugs, (like in game) in the middle of a lake of ruins, and the whirlpool takes you to the past, to Drangleic's last days
the ashen mist heart is what remains of a heavily marketed locket that wouldve done the same thing.
also, for further proof that DaS2 was probably supposed to be a next gen game:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/02/26/dark-souls-2-engine-created-with-next-gen-in-mind
more incoming next post
>>135361101
I hate everything until the castle. Especially the beginning
>>135361056
Please tell us what your favorite boss in the series is.
>>135361056
the sexiest flame demon ever.
also could you name a good boss in the Souls series. One is enough. I can't wait to pick it apart.
>>135361315
Look at the concept art. Read interviews from before the game launched. Now put it all together. The game was intended to be massive. Somewhere in the last months of development (when the trailers start looking like shit) they redid the game for whatever reason. I feel it was more Namco pressuring dlc as both directors explicitly stated that they wanted no dlc but that's only a theory. So areas of the game were removed and introduced as dlc, the rest of the areas were cut and pasted together, graphics AND sound were downgraded (listen to the skeleton dragon roar in the demon at e3).
Oh and they also stressed how time and ocean travel would play a big role which obviously got cut.
Basically, dark souls 2 should have wiped the floor with dark souls 1 (and any other rpg released in the past few years) but instead became a laughingstock.
>>135359961
Not autistic, just drunk.
2 does not look good. 1 does not look good (though you probably think otherwise because you fell for the Dsfix meme). BB does not look good, though it's a huge step up from its predecessors that 'step up' does not hold up to the standard of the industry.
Des looks straight awful. Nobody who has played DeS will say it looks good unless they are genuinely delusional. It literally, unironically reuses assets from AC4, which is like pre-PS1-era graphics
The graphics of fromsoft game is not good. Their aesthetic is a product entirely of their art direction, which is exceptionally good. The graphics are awful and only very gradually have progressed in not limiting that art design's ability to create the aesthetic.
That said, the fetish that people have with graphics in the west is absolute insanity, and entirely the product of falling for marketing hype and business memes deliberately created by the people that pay for games to be made, rather than any real value that it adds to the product.
Unfortunately the character limit is too small to fit all this shit into 1 drunken post.
>>135360095
Minus the dripping sun, the area reminds me of the place where the MC was fighting the manikins in the DaS2 Announcement Trailer.
>>135361462
>AC4, which is like pre-PS1-era graphics
wew
>Dark Souls General Discord Server
https://discord.gg/0t9VioBfIvE7dz8j
>>135361430
There was an interview with the guys at From about what happened. Apparently Shibuya the other director for Dark Souls 2 intended to create something massive and impossible to do. He wanted to make Skyrim with Zelda elements. He however was incompetent and horrible at managing the team. So several months before development had to come to an end they realized they were nowhere close to being done and everything was FUCKED.
So Shibuya got booted and Tanimura took over and took what he could from the assets they had and stitched together the monstrosity that was Dark Souls 2.
>>135361579
Seriously, nigga. I'm genuinely surprised I didn't have to plug a RAM pack into the controller to play that game.
>>135361582
fuck off
>>135361682
What are you, gay
>>135361582
discord is botnet shit basically normieware
Alant is the only acceptable final boss of any of these games so far.
cant cheese him, cant out DPS him with best weapons in the game if you just spam attacks, and SL drain to keep the shitters out and encourage a calm confident approach instead of "retry it til you get lucky"
>>135361634
ive actually been curious as to why shibuya dropped off the face of the earth after his one and only interview
ty
>>135361462
I don't know man I think it still looks pretty good. I replay it 3-4 times a year. The lighting is very well done IMO.
>>135361731
>>/g/
>>135361741
I hope Level Drain comes back in DaS3
>>135361101
DaS2 is not artistically bereft, it's just that what's there was given very little support to flourish but was instead cut together by a desperate team
i hate to attribute everything to the director but in DaS2's case it really does feel like they had some talented people and some very bad direction
>>135361741
I love Allant, but he can be cheesed with poison mist and arrows iirc. But that isn't really fighting him so I guess you's right.
>>135361309
Yeah, you can see a lot of sparks of greatness there. I know it's late now, but I really want to see everything they cooked up and had to throw away someday.
>>135361315
>>135361430
I was aware of the scrapping halfway and the loli Herald, but I didnt go back and read those interviews to see how massive it would be, thank you for your post detailing it. As the other anon said, it makes it worse to see that it wasnt just fruit of dumb designers or lack of passion. It's a damn shame.
>>135361354
Father Gascoigne.
>sitting in iron keep bridge, with bellkeeper ring on, with summon sign down, open to invasions at 1mil sm
>2 online connections in the past hour, and both were drangleic/vengarl/greatsword shitters needing coop
ds3 cant come soon enough
>>135361741
false king is nothing but r1, roll, and grass: the fight
he can't do shit if you have grass
>>135361462
A drunk autist then.
You're delusional.
>>135361741
>can't cheese him
Kaiokek x 100
>>135361634
It's a real shame, did miyazaki leave 2 because he was already working on BB even during 2's develoment?
given the clusterfuck they had trying to make 2 so big I wonder how big 3 is going to be. I feel like miyazaki favours fewer elements to the game as a whole as long as those elements are very well made, just look at how little there is weapon wise in BB yet the weapons are all tight as fuck.
A game as big as 2, made as carefully as BB would be fucking incredible. I really hope that's what 3 is.
>>135361882
well sure if you can manage to perfectly evade all of his attacks after that, goes for any boss.
he's got the most intense player-seeking slash-dash in the game, i may not be the best but it was hilariously hard not to get hit by that, and standing still to do any action felt like a deathwish
>>135361758
I'm a sucker for games that look like "this"
Often hard to explain but they look like "that" and I like it.
>>135361750
His name isn't even in the credits for SOTFS.
>>135359746
>>135361462
>my dumbfounded opinion in 4000 characters
You're better off posting on neogaf, you literal retard.
>>135362294
nah I agree with you I'm just saying he CAN be cheesed, just like the first maneater with arrows through the fog gate and Manus in DaS1 outside his boss room with arrows. DeS is my fave and I still replay it a few times a year. Allant is a great boss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2lJjdIDKY4
>>135361741
>cant cheese him
So what do you call the process of hitting him with 100+ arrows as soon as I enter his boss zone and having him not even react or come to me? Is that not cheesing?
>cant out DPS him with best weapons in the game if you just spam attacks
Huh? I just used a Halberd or sometimes a Mirdan Hammer and just treated him like any other boss of just attack, roll, attack, roll and being passive.
>SL drain to keep the shitters out
People actually get hit by that? Well, I guess I can't do anything about the fact that literal retards exist in this world.
Also,
>DeSfags actually think their game is hard
I wish I played Demon's Souls back in 2009 so that I could shit on all of you praising the game as "challenging" back then.
>>135362523
>I wish I played Demon's Souls back in 2009 so that I could shit on all of you praising the game as "challenging" back then.
well you didn't so you will never know. Also the mirdan hammer is pretty damn OP broseph.
Looking for co-op summon at O&S, Sl 38, PC
>>135361741
Gherman
>>135362485
>Manus can be cheesed
holy shit
>>135361462
i agree with you but i think you are saying it poorly. as you've conceded the art direction of these games is exceptional, and when most people say these games "look good" they are talking about the holistic package, and not the mundane characteristics of normal maps and shaders
there isn't any question that From's technical rendering is objectively poor. but as you've concded, this obsession with technical graphics is insanity, so you should be heartened that people think these games "look good" in spite of their technical issues. ultimately rendering is an artistic process and millions of dollars of paint can't compensate for a lack of artistic fundamentals, whereas any reasonably talented artist can illustrate something impressive with a $1 pencil
>>135362801
Parries + clawmark runes make him almost as easy as Gwyn, given the fact that he has several super easy to parry attacks.
>>135362832
This was common knowledge when i did my first play through three years ago, how have you not heard of it?
>>135362668
I'm not even part of this argument and you really seem to be projecting more than a theater.
>>135362832
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9qNvk5LUvg
>>135362663
>Also the mirdan hammer is pretty damn OP broseph.
Not my fault the weapon I like is OP. If it was enough to trivialize the fight even more than when I used a Halberd, then I guess the FKA fight isn't actually hard the way you retarded DeSfags always insist it is.
>well you didn't so you will never know.
Thankfully, I can shit on you now.
Who do you think was telling the truth? And who did you guys side with?
>>135361882
I love how in his cutscene when he turns around to look at you, you can immediately tell he is not human/possessed just because of his eyes/gaze
no other boss really gave me that feeling in the series
>>135363389
Creighton almost invariably.
Pate's a fucking asshole.
I do wonder about the trap that Creighton sets, but I sort of just blow it off as a trap meant for Pate.
>>135362925
Yeah, good luck doing that in the second phase.
>>135363389
creighton
he seems appreciative of you letting him out, and would at least warn you that hes out to kill you
>>135363460
the traps there for both of them, its just a setpiece
>>135362990
>p-p-projecting
I don't like this kind of response because it has no impact. What am I supposed to be projecting here, according to you? Is this supposed to be some kind of lazy tu quoque or do you have more to say?
>>135362919
>poorly said
Well I'd readily admit that due to drunkenness and all. "Look good" was a really poor choice of words because I meant to refer specifically to graphics and not art direction or design. The former is bad but the latter is good. As a whole, the package is very good but it excels in the latter and falls short int he former whereas most western games are the exact opposite, falling short in the latter and excelling in the former.
Basically, the point I'm trying to make is that the art design of a game matters a lot more than its graphic fidelity in general when it comes to overall presentation, and so the distinction between DaS1, 2, BB and 3's graphics is really arbitrary and rather meaningless because it doesn't come from a place of actual appreciation for the game's overall appearance and rather from some deluded buying-into of marketing rhetoric for the value of graphics which has no basis in reality.
>>135363545
I know it's a set piece, but you hear Creighton's voice upon opening it if you help him.
Not sure about if you help Pate, never helped the bastard.
there's been a lot of DeS hate lately. It hurts my soul. I hope DaS3 cheers these people up when it comes out. Tired of all the negativity.
>>135363862
The thing I don't understand is why people judge it if they've never played it.
I've never played it myself so I don't consider myself in a position to judge it.
>>135363862
Those beautiful feet were meant to step on me
>>135363627
i agree. the only one i'd single out is 2, and only on occasion. there are some good areas in 2 but the whole package understandably feels like a theme park ride, so you get really abrupt shifts like heide -> PIRATES or the infamous windmills -> lava
i think most of the technical criticism of DaS3 right now is just shitposters looking for another "downgrade" to meme about
so whats the point of dragon armor
it has worse stats than almost every piece or armor, has no poise, and can only be removed by dying
i can understand not being able to wear helmets with the head, but why cant the body stone just make you have scales and increase your defenses and poise by a set amount, while still letting you wear armor?
>>135363862
There's been a terrible amount of DaS1 bashing and DaS2 bootlicking out of nowhere too
>>135363981
there are still some rational people like you in this general at least. Gives me some faith.
Hey guys, you know what would be great?
Lets make another covenant that makes you trudge through 70% of the game to do it.
And after you've joined you can give away your effigies to go to a place. That's right give your effigies to go somewhere.
And when you get there we'll put in a bunch of NPC phantoms to gank you.
We'll make it so that the entire level is built mostly thin platforms so you can't roll and we'll make all the enemies guard break you or tanky enough to smack down your stamina.
And when you inevitably die we'll charge more human effigies to go in and do it all over again.
And when you've 'won' 3 times you can go and fight the boss.
And we'll make the boss seem super easy but half way through we'll turn this into another gank.
And when you inevitably die to the boss we'll charge you more human effigies so you can test your luck on one of the levels again so that you can then test your luck on the boss again.
And to top it all off we'll have members invade one another during the entire thing.
Fuck this covenant and fuck the Dark Lurker.
>>135363862
>498 / 100 / 85 / 1
People have a tendency to criticize one thing while not criticizing another, It's alright to recognize that every game has its flaws, but when one game is devalorized for a flaw while another game that exhibits the same flaw is valorized in comparison, it invites criticism.
It's best just to think of it as a learning experience for the youngest people posting in /vg/ who have strong opinions but haven't yet learned how to really articulate those opinions, or consider arguments from other positions.
Shitposting is a learning experience for shitposters. That mean words are thrown about with regards to a game you like shouldn't really upset you. If they knew better, they'd post better.
>>135364052
I know what you mean man...
>>135363862
does this heal your soul?
>>135363862
>there's been a lot of DeS hate lately
It's to counter the DeS worshiping and calling it the best game in the series and stupid shit like that. You get to praise it. We get to criticize it.
>>135363981
>The thing I don't understand is why people judge it if they've never played it.
Yes, because all critics of Demon's Souls have never actually played it. Because if they HAVE played it, then they will love it so much that they'll sleep with the game Blu Ray in bed every night. I guess you want any potential critic to post a timestamp and an in-game picture proving you have the game? Fuck off, DeSfag.
>>135364365
DeS is objectively the best game in the series though.
>>135364350
definitely
>>135364365
I wouldn't say it's the best technically, but it is my favorite. Then again I played the day it came out back in 2009. I still replay it a few times a year. it has a special place in my heart. I am very excited for DaS3. has a lot of elements from DeS, DaS1/2, and BB that I loved.
>>135364365
I wonder what makes people summon up this level of negativity and hatred for no reason. Are you really that broken that all you can do is hate the things that give other people joy?
>>135364365
I just want to add that the sudden and abrupt increase in praise for DeS in the face of DaS3's imminent release is not coincidental and nothing short of rhetoric. Most of the people praising it have never played it., Most of the people criticizing it are aware that those praising it have never played it. It's just shitposters jockeying for position over DaS3 so that they have a narrative to exploit to either praise or hate on the new game once it consumes public interest entitely in 3 weeks
>>135364601
I really hope I am never crazy enough to think there is some elaborate shitposter conspiracy and false flag operation going on so that they can shit on Dark Souls 3 when it comes out. They don't need to do all that work when they can just lie and distort images or information to shitpost. Jesus man that is fucking crazy.
>>135355914
I would actually be pretty sad.
>>135364810
>elaborate
Nigga this ain't even elaborate. It's just the average day on 4chan.
DeS has the best PvE in the series though. That's always been accepted as the popular opinion.
>>135355723
>It's health is based on how many time you rested at a bonfire during the game.
THREE FUCKING WEEKS, FIVE FUCKING DAYS AND FIFTEEN FUCKING HOURS.
We Angels now ?
>>135365301
>that cleric pose
Better be an actual emote
>>135365301
Thanks for reminding me to pick that up
>>135365301
this is giving me such a Berserk vibe it's crazy.
>>135365293
Eat shit
>>135365301
>dat pose
Aww yee
>>135365301
>that cleric is using a miracle and that pose is how he casts it
/fa/ as fuck
>>135365301
>>135365540
Miracle:Jazz Hands
>>135366032
That spell probably replaces heavenly thunder as the rng aoe damage miracle
>they didnt turn bonewheel shield into a full on weapon
why.
>>135366032
That guy swore himself to the Angels. Wonder if this is a new Covenant.
>>135366032
dude yeah that probably is the exact miracle. I am so excited.
>>135366168
go play BB if you want the best wheel action available right now.
although I am sure the bonewheel shield's charged R2s and weapon arts will make it useful for actual combat in DaS3.
You have exactly REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME RELEVANT TO YOUR ABILITIES to tell me why you don't use a rapier or ricard's rapieror both
>>135365301
WITNESS ME
>>135366561
They're small
Mean they can't tear huge guts
>>135366561
Boring in pvp, overpowered in pve yet with shit durability
>>135366561
I used ricard's rapier for my Ricard cosplay build a shitload in DaS1 pvp. Used to actually get compliments believe it or not. that was during GFWL days though. I actually miss them a lot. I'm more of a str guy though. Demon's great machete was my jam.
I'm new in dark Souls, I wanted to ask how is it that you use the dragon eye for PVP.
>>135366561
ricards breaks almost instantly and rapiers are only used by shitters than can only use the most op weapons to win
>>135366561
Because rapiers are boring as fuck. Like, unbelievably boring. Their 1HR1 is a straight thrust, their 1HR1 followup is a straight thrust, their 2HR1 is a straight thrust, their 2HR1 followup is a straight thrust, their 1H and 2H R2 are straight thrusts, their running attacks are straight thrusts, their rolling attacks are straught thrusts.
Rapiers have a million different slight variations on one fucking attack, where the only thing that changes, slightly, is the amount of startup.
They are the single blandest, most uninteresting and most repetitive weapon type in the souls series.
>>135366561
because i've used them before and none of my current characters are dex/chaos builds
>>135366659
I suppose
>>135366664
But anon, jabx9000 with some of the highest (highest in DaS1 period) riposte damage
>>135366696
At least you know the LIGHT
Going Dex/Int for the jap launch so I can try out how magic and the 'stylish' weapons.
Upon launch I'm building completely around those Drang Hammers since I'll (hopefully) know where to find them.
Fuck me their moveset looks radical.
>I've killed O&S 10 times in the last hour from getting summoned
>Starting to feel like a bully
this is what you fuckers deserve for bullying me so much back before I got gud
>>135366938
Drang HAMMERS, anon
They will probably have a high dex req (my bet is 18) but they will be strength-scaling weapons primarily. You're probably looking at something like 18/16 or 22/18 for requirements and B/C or A/C scaling pre-infusion.
They will be strength-leaning quality.
>>135366746
Rapiers are fun and wholesome
Ricard's in 2 has horrific durability so an offhand weapon for filler is probably recommended, I agree
>>135366705
Anyone?
>>135367072
he said hes going dex for the Jap launch, not US launch. at least i think thats what he meant
>>135367121
look at the wikidot
0.05 seconds
>>135366705
literally just use it in any area, it works as a normal cracked red eye orb, it's harder to invade though
>>135367121
you place a sign on the ground, then someone summons you to their world, whoever wins gets a dragonscale
>>135366705
>>135367121
be in the dragon covenant then place it down in a place where people pvp and you will get summoned. If you win you get a dragon scale. it's like putting down a summon sign man.
>>135367235
Oh shit you're right. I read his post wrong.
>>135366470
I do nothing but wheel & deal in BB my dear anon
>>135367412
oh my bad. bonewheel shield will definitely be more versatile in DaS3 than it was in DaS1 so I am very hopeful.
>>135367560
How does Logarious' wheel even work again?
They decided to use wheels to deal the pain? And the special state is that it becomes more powerful because it was filled with THAT much hatred and rage?
>>135367412
>BURN THE BEAST
>PURGE THE SCOURGE
>BURN THE BEAST
>PURGE THE SCOURGE
>BURN THE BEAST
>PURGE THE SCOURGE
>BURN THE BEAST
>PURGE THE SCOURGE
>>135367268
>>135367287
Oh, I've never placed a summon sign so I didn't know
>>135359046
The majority of people would classify bloodborne as a souls game, so yeah we're still bloodborne.
A different name that means the same shit.
>>135367657
It's haunted by restless spirits of gay vampires.
I heard the weaponart of that giant hammer the new Lautrec uses is shooting fireballs, anyone got a source/video for that?
>>135344868
I want the 2 DLCs to each play like a bestof of Das1 and Das2. With Solaire as endboss of one and Giant Lord standing on top of Aldia for the other
>>135361731
prove it
>>135367887
you heard wrong, it's grant 2.0
the gargoyle flame hammer is the one that does the mortaring
>>135366938
I'm going to shit a brick if there is a great hammer version of the Drag Hammers.
>>135367657
It's filled with the vengeful spirits of those killed by it.
>>135367657
They're wagon wheels. Like the kind of wagon wheels a bourgeoise noble in romantic-era europe would ride a carriage on.
The executioners are ironic.The hunter too implies that they were once the servants of the Cainhurst nobility, and for whatever reason snapped and slaughtered the whole castle and every single last person in it with wagon wheel and zeal. The wheels are empowered by the spirits of the semi-immortal vampires that were murdered by being ground into juicy slurry by wagon-wheels. Their spirits are, at least in part, contained within their blood, and the wheels bathed in that blood until they become soaked in the fury of their victims, who all happen to be ostentatious and grandiloquent vampires in some spooky castle.
It's irony.
>>135367887
Nah the weapon art of Eygon's hammer is Morne's Rage: it's like bloodletter's special from BB, but with poise/defence frames. >>135367951
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQEP5s6iZik
Who was Jeremiah? What was Xanthous like? Why does his crown shrink so much in 2, why is it so disgustingly yellow for all of eternity?
Why does it encourage such evil things to be done while wearing it?
>>135367953
>dual-wield ultra weapons with Cuhrazy movesets
Holy fuck I want this so bad.
>>135367887
>new Lautrec
first of all I think you mean new Yurt, second of all the new one is this Ringfinder dude. Eygon gives me more of a Leeroy/Garl, but as an asshole vibe.
how does 2handing work in ds3?
ds1
1.5x str for weapon reqs, 1.5x scaling bonus, 2handing multiplier
ds2
2x str for weapons reqs, no scaling bonus, 2handing multiplier
>>135352574
Wow that is fucking disgusting.
>>135368062
"Xanthous" is an archaic term for "yellow". His Japanese name is literally Yellow King Jeremiah.
>>135368241
>archaic
It's literally just greek.
I hope they have my irl weaponfu. Then i can make rinka from fire emblem fates
>>135368241
>>135368062
jeremiah's crown is an homage to the Old Monk from DeS. That's all I know.
>>135368348
Why would you want to make a STR build that only gets 16 STR?
>>135368241
WHAT IS HE THE KING OF
WHO IS HE
WHY WAS HE IN THE PAINTED WORLD OF ARIAMIS, WHY ARE HIS CLOTHES SO YELLOW, WHY ARE THEY WERE THEY ARE IN 2?
VAATI HELP MEEEEE
>>135368436
He's a reference to the King in Yellow.
>>135368436
TELL ME ABOUT JEREMIAH, WHY DOES HE WEAR THE THE CROWN?
if i were to host a fc here at 4mil sm would anyone come?
>>135368436
>unironically watched Vaati during the Das1 days
>stopped before DaS2 was announced
>get linked to a video recently
>"lamo guys the First Sin is totally Gywn linking the fire, watch my other video to see why"
>when the Witch of Izalith/Bed of Chaos incident happened first
>when Aldia looks like a chaos treebug monster
>and uses fucking chaos flames
Like I don't get it.
>>135368525
Armored Core has a fuckton of references to King Leer and in For Answer, the French Revolution.
>>135368753
Vaati is basically a meme at this point.
>>135367657
Kinda like thisold low mensis gems webm
>>135368419
>16 str
You're a luckier anon than I
Really tho, with the pyro glove having a built in combustion, oni chief could be a fun build
>>135368856
>dex vs magic users.gif
>>135368536
IF I TAKE THAT OFF WILL YOU HOLLOW?
So I noticed in some gameplay of 3 a player with the Estoc backstepping while simultaneously flicking the blade for minor damage? We already know its weapon art is Shield Splitter, so what is that? can the Estoc just attack while backstepping now? It didnt seem to be R1 or R2
>>135369526
you never tried to kick with it equipped? that's what it does. replaces the kick. just like the falchion's "kick" makes you do a slicing back flip thing.
>>135369526
that was the kick in 1
a backstep with a minor damage swipe
like the curved swords with their swing and backflip
>>135369526
Shotel and Falchion both do swipes and backflips when you kick with them
Rapier, Ricard's, and Estoc give a little swing with a backstep
It's been like that forever.
DS1
Forest Hunter Covenant area
Download Region > Finland
anyone up for some fun?
>>135369638
>>135369635
oh okay, cool!I only ever played 2, because I can't get DaS to be playable with just keyboard and mouse.
>still no das1 steam key
hold me
>>135347897
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxJ2xKBGrU4
here you go anon
>>135369726
SL? Just the good old 125?
Gonna try getting into Soulsagainwith DeS. Should I play online or offline?
>>135369843
Which soul level has the highest chance of connecting to others in that area?
>>135369945
125 is the meta most people stick to for PvP
>Already downgraded
I'd cancel my preorder if I could.
>>135369980
See you there friendo
-Oxford
>>135346907
dickwraith/10
would fite if I wasn´t on school
>>135369895
I like to play online because there are still messages all over and I still get invaded and get some coop every once in a while. If you want a weapon that you can only get with pure black or pure white world tendency though you gotta be careful. Look at his guide and look up any weapons that might need PWWT or PBWT to get. Have fun.
also check out this DeS album with over 700 images of official art, fanart, and comics.
http://imgur.com/a/XhBxC
>>135370118
I'd have to change my download region.
If I do and leave a red sign down, would you summon me? Am I getting MEME'd?
>>135370187
ty anon
>>135370194
If you don't want to fight, that's cool, no matter how I invade you / you invade me, we can just 2v1 or 2v2 whoever else joins
>>135370309
I'll change my download region in a second.
Multiplayer Channel?
>>135370356
Multi what now?
>>135370396
MP Channel.
With Wulf's connectivity mod you can choose which channel to be on at all times to make connecting to other people easier.
It's how we host so many fightclubs here.
Anybody have the link to that weekly From stream ?
>>135370441
Set to MP15
>>135350961
We Pepper and Refuge now?
>>135370834
I'm wearing the crimson set doing a bunch of ninja rolls out in the forest, but my Sif is dead so I have to invade/put a sign down by the stairs
>>135371050
Lord's blade set, Uchigatana, grass crest. Also chilling by stairs.
>>135371013
>that hud
>parrying
>grass
Woaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
>>135371102
Try summoning me, wearing Mask of the Sealer+Crimson Robes+Elite Knight Leggins+Elite Knight Gauntlets holding a rapier. Sign is in front of the entry stairs.
>>135371131
Every different like covenant spot has it's own version of the Not-Estus-Flask. The area I just left had the grass as it so don't worry, we're not DeS grass anymore.
Is the full trophy list out yet ? Noticed the latest builds had them enabled.
>>135371198
Yours isn't showing up.
Mine's in front of the massive pile of bricks.
>>135371584
There's a lot of brick piles in the forest
Mine is at the entry staircase, by the bonfire, by the door where you first use the crest
>>135361354
>good bosses
>>135371713
Likewise
>>135371312
Should appear online by the end of the week.
>>135371776
channel 15
in the forest
DL region of finland
these are the facts, yes?
>>135371886
>>135371776
Did you leave Wulf's open after setting it to 15?
>>135371886
Correct
>>135371973
Yes
>>135372068
My sign isn't down so I should be able to see yours
Where the fuck are the videos of this sexy motherfucker? I think he's the only class nobody's played.
>>135372446
yeah he definitely has one of the coolest starting armors. I rolled to start as a cleric a few threads ago and I am going to stick to my word though so I guess I will be a godly mother fucker who supports peeps with miracles instead of my usual.
>>135372446
>twin scimitars
>>135372481
That's a white soapstone sign
PvP signs are red, red soapstones
You also can't see other signs if yours is down
>>135372446
ptsd from refugees
>>135372521
>>135372446
fuck wrong pic
>>135372546
Leave yours down then, I'll take mine away
>>135372774
Mine's in the same area yours was, you should be able to summon me if your level is 125
>>135372446
I only saw him featured briefly here (34 seconds in):
https://youtu.be/Olf338itLAg?t=34s
>>135372774
>>135372832
Your Sif also has to be alive, mine is dead
>>135372852
Thanks anon, I'll buy you breakfast one day.
>>135372918
Yeah my sif is alive.
>>135373001
Sign's down, there's a node close to mine, occasionally I even saw a ghost version of you standing by the stairs
>>135373093
Yep, I can see your ghost occasionally too.
A Playstation JP stream that will show DaS3 among other games will starts in about 1 hour and a half.
http://pscom.jp/PLC-Ust
>>135373194
The japs and the fins are trying to keep us separate
but I will always love you
http://pastebin.com/PCaf9eba
I did a small writeup of DKS3 starting classes efficiency and strengths.
Mainly I was just putting my thoughts down so I could decide what I wanted to run when the game comes out. Figure someone somewhere might give a crap to read it.
>>135373363
goodbye my lover
goodbye my friend
>>135373526
I try to invade
I try to sign
nothing happens
Oxford, Oxford, where fore art thou?
Any word if the fun utility sorceries like shockwave will return? Shit was the best, worked in pve and "spin circles, teleport behind you" pvp faggots never see it coming.
I giggled at this way more then I should have.
I think it's because I just got off a 10 hour shift at 9 pm and spent the last 4 hours trying to finish Anor Londo
>>135374104
He's not wrong
>>135374104
It's really the definitive soapstone joke
>>135350961
Stop shilling your shitty game in every general
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9U4zRyuADY
Anyone know how this was done?
Anon in the Finlands
I'm getting off now
I still love youhttps://steamcommunity.com/id/MilitarizedChefHat
keep in touch
>>135374251
>cheating
>>135374191
>not amazing trap ahead
why did I ever get gud /dsg/?
I know too much about these games now.
I think i might be retarded, i loaded the .ct files from the pastebin but i am not able to give myself equipment or souls. how do i git gud at ct guys?
Need help with the living failures the password is ebin
>>135374894
ringing where?
did 4chan die?
>>135375771
No.
>>135375771
only on the inside
>>135375771
death is only the beginning
>>135373270
Stream is starting
>>135376619
They'll show DaS3 later in the stream. They're showing some Hatsune Miku game atm.
So the nippons get to play Dark Souls 3 in a week while the rest of us need to wait until April. Is it possible to get a PC Jap copy off a keysite or something (maybe order it from somewhere?) and play it on the 24th? Or am I just gonna have to wait till the 12th
>>135376751
ps4 only.
I've heard nip xbones work too but not sure whether that's substantiated.
>>135376751
Are you on PC? PC version will be released in April only. Worldwide, including Japan.
You can only play the japanese version on PS4 or XBOX1 on the 24th.
>DaS3 is releasing just as I start uni
whyyyyy ;____;
fuck life
>>135377425
Im glad im jobless bum.
>>135377425
Don't worry, you'll have plenty of time to play it.
>>135377612
What if your parents die tomorrow?
>>135377425
>he thinks that he has no time in uni
Writing my Bachelor thesis right starting next month - Never had "no time to play Souls games" in those years.
>>135378184
I dont get any money from my parents anon-kun.
>>135378184
what if he's a jobless bum BECAUSE his parents are dead and left him money? That's what happened to me...
>>135378240
What's your major anon?
I'm going into applied physics myself.
>>135378247
So you are a beggar or something?
>>135378360
>that madman at the end
always gets me
>>135378360
And how many time you can live with that?
If my parents died I would have no option but to enclose myself in a small room and burn some charcoal until I fall sleep
>>135378426
Nah, im a welfare whore.
>>135378608
>burn some charcoal
You'd fuck black women until you fell asleep? What the fuck? That's a weird way to cope anon.
>>135378656
AIDS kills faster than you think
Will Dark Souls 3 finally close this retarded story arc?
has the stream showed any ds3 yet?
>>135378360
If flails aren't in das3 I am going to shit.
>>135378774
Nope
>>135378760
lol, absolutely not
>>135378780
Enjoy shitting
>>135378848
how long has the stream been going for, and how long will it go for?
do we know for sure that it will have ds3?
>mfw there's a psychopass game
This man died for the B-team's sins.
>>135378360
>No flail trick weapon
From doesn't have any excuses anymore
>>135378774
what stream?
Japan PS Blog streaming some shitty games AND Dark Souls 3
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/%E3%82%B2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0%E6%83%85%E5%A0%B1%E7%99%BA%E4%BF%A1
>>135379035
>>135378847
>>135378998
Looks more like a VN to me
>>135379101
>yfw they didn't make it in
>>135378360
>Be the heir of the Wayne family
>Spent time playing vidya instead of training and fighting crime
What are you doing with your life anon!?I'm sorry that happened to you anon, unless you hated your parents that is, or maybe you got rid of them to get their fortune...hmm
Can't wait this type of passive dash attack spammers to get completely blown the fuck out in ds3.
So is Salt & Sanctuary good? A 2D souls game sounded nice
>>135379459
Twitch shills seem to love it. ENB hated it for some reason
>>135379409
>playing that build
>talking shit about any other playstyle
You're both cancerous.
>>135379409
based estoc turtle, keep making webms
How do I fix this screen tearing on DaS1 PC? Turned DSFix on and off, enabled and disabled vsync, locked framerate and nothing works.
It's not horrible but bad enough to make me not want to play.
can't wait for dark souls 3 PC
>>135379191
Tell us when DaS3 is being shown. I'm not interested in those shitty anime games they have lined before it.
>>135379359
He should become a mod and cleanse this general from the shitposters and tripfags instead
>>135379548
>Bullet hell Dark Souls
Looks fun.
>>135379548
get out of here gil
>>135379548
That's kinda cool
>>135378998
Seems like it sold like absolute shit on Xbox One.
>tfw doing pvp in das1 and you come across a player playing das2 type pvp
Whipping out of the critdagger; trying to go for a BS after many failed parrying attempts and trying to backstep my strike
>>135379506
Don't talk shit about turtling nigga, it's a holy souls game tradition.
>>135378998
Now they're showin Digimon for the Vita, then The Division then DaS3 at the end.
>>135379709
>spinning
>unironic use of the sun sword
>>135379548
>Gate of Babylon.webm
>>135379709
DS2 shitters trying to play in any other souls game are the most hilarious shit ever.
>muh """mindgames"""
>muh """spacing"""
>>135379548
Wonder if i can make Father Kevin build and fuck around with it.
>>135379548
haha so fukin epic
>>135379548
We didn't get any bow user boss?
If they add one it should be like this
>>135379816
As someone who never played any das2 pvp why does spinning work in das2 but not other games?
What's the goal?
Going to play vanilla darks souls 2, only played sotfs. What am I in for?
>>135380083
Same shit, different enemy position.
>>135380123
This toy looks less like plastic than the armor in-game
>>135380054
Masking your moves
Ultimately it's pointless though and something tryhards adopt because their favourite twitch fairy does it
Does anyone have a screencap of Epicnamebro shilling Dark Souls 2 hard on twitter? Saying it's better than Dark Souls 1? A pal won't believe me.
>>135380054
Basically spinning in DS2 fucks up player animations for their opponents and allows spinner to carry out a running attack without almost any clear indication. That's why typical spinners always uses weapons with good running attacks like axes (like here >>135379409), so they can be passive as fuck, force opponent to make an action then punish it with instant running attack. DS2 also has the best running attack in series, but thankfully in DS3 we're back to DS1 ones which are worse.
how do I make dark souls fun
>>135380386
Thanks m8.
>>135380386
>>135380427
All true
>>135380229
He still hasn't deleted them, but I won't go through all his Tweets to link it.
>>135380462
This, From really re-invented the wheel with Dark Souls 2, it's definitely the true Souls experience.
The best part is that it's available on every platform that matters, so there's no way you can miss out on THIS gem, haha.
>>135380287
ah okay
so its a DaS2 specific netcode bug that hides the running animation from the opponent? Is that the gist of it?
And it doesn't work in other games like BB because the opponent will still get more than adequate time to see the running attack coming because the animation plays properly?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qByFob7-8VY
Reminder that this abomination is an official DS2 release trailer.
>>135380467
>>135380229
Ok found them.
https://twitter.com/epicnamebro/status/424709538025967616
https://twitter.com/epicnamebro/status/424703780362285058
>>135380287
The grand irony being is that is also fucks with their hit box and properly nailing them with the edge of your weapon's shadow hitbox is much easier since their entire goal is to "outspace" your attack rather than roll through it.
Also, it seems most of them have no idea how to properly deal with bows
>>135380618
Dark Souls 3 is far worse
>>135380539
>so its a DaS2 specific netcode bug that hides the running animation from the opponent
Pretty much.
And yes, in other souls games running attack spam is easily punishable and shield-less passive play is very unsafe as aggressive play allows to completely shut it down. Only a very good player can pull off reactive play in DS1.
>>135380386
>>135380427
Don't want to come off as an apologist or w/e but fuck it I like the guy
In this specific case, out of all the countless people who shilled DaS2 I feel ENB has the best leg to stand on. He was practically on the development team by this point in time so I feel that his personal investment in it was probably larger than any other soulstuber or w/e.
Speaking of time, when exactly did the huge downgrade occur during development anyway? ENB said this in January and the game didn't release for another two months right? Could it possibly be that he was talking about a pre-downgraded game?
>>135380618
Better then true colors.
>>135380682
There's no launch trailer for DS3 yet.
>>135380997
At least it has a good gameplay showcase.
>>135380054
It doesn't really work because all it does is telegraphing your playstyle.
>>135379459
>co op isnt online nor is pvp
into
the
trash
>>135381153
Yeah, the second someone starts spinning you can pull out a bow or spear and just destroy them because you know exactly what they're going to try and do.
Now they're showing The Division, DaS3 is next.
>>135380963
Pretty late in development. They led Shibuya to a white room with nothing but a katana in it sometime in late November. So around december is when the game started being cut down to size.
So, anyone know if there'll be dead angling in das3?
>>135381331
>division
what a fucking dissapointment that fucking game was
>>135381429
Not sure why anyone would buy it after the boring beta.
>>135381429
>russian buddy purchases division
>refunds 20 min later
>buys das3 instead
Ayy
FOR ANYONE THAT HASN'T HEARD
SOME SORT OF DS3 STREAM AFTER THE DIVISION
get in here; http://www.ustream.tv/channel/%E3%82%B2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0%E6%83%85%E5%A0%B1%E7%99%BA%E4%BF%A1
>>135381429
>expecting Jewbisoft games to be any good
>>135381540
Siege is good. I've played it to death but avoided Division because of the awful reviews.
>>135381525
When are they going to drop this kusoge and get to the Souls?
Why the fuck does that Jap girl in the stream say "eeeee" and "sugoi" every 2 seconds ?
>>135381757
Because it's "cute"
>>135381757
You don't seem like a sugoi guy, eeeeeeeee?
>>135381757
EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH?!
when recording for webms i should be recording at 30fps 720p right?
for optimal filesize/ bitrate ratio
>>135381757
in japan, if it doesn't have a cute girl constantly calling it amazing, it's shit
this one is relatively tame
>>135381986
http://pastebin.com/4ipnGRND
It depends. If you're only recording to post shit here then yes, record in 720@30. There are some people who like to take screenshots of their videos, so if you want to do that, you might want to record in 1080@60 and high bitrate.
Ultimately, remember that you can change the size, the framerate and pretty much everything else when you're encoding your webm. Recording in 720@30 is recommended only so you don't waste your PC's resources, but if you have power to spare, go for it.
>>135381757
Have you never seen JAV, m8?
this literally looks like the EXACT same gameplay as gears of war1, which i played like 50 years ago.
have shooters not changed at all?
I bet they'll show the tutorial area and Firelink in the stream. Maybe some High Wall of Lothric, if we're lucky.
>>135382589
At least it will most likely be the final version.
>>135382583
Shooters never change.The same could be said about Souls games.
>>135382589
>last stream just fucked around in the tutorial area showing the hand axe moveset even though everyone's seen it 100 times already
>>135382583
There's only so much you can do with "Man shoots another man"
Shooters focus more on improving map variety, weapon variety, and EPIK FUCKIN GRAFIX between games, as there isn't much else they can do. Just look at CoD, they've had the same gunplay for years because there just isn't much you can do to it without alienating people, instead they try and change movement mechanics with double jumping, wall running etc.
But even that's been done multiple times before.
>>135382748
Then why is DaS better than Das2
it's starting
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/%E3%82%B2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0%E6%83%85%E5%A0%B1%E7%99%BA%E4%BF%A1
>they're still showing the Gamescom trailer
At best, we'll learn something new through loading screens.
I want to make a study of /dsg/ and see when there's more activity and when people shitpost the most.
I did something similar yesterday, however, due to not having clear rules as to what is and isn't a shitpost, I ended up with like 400 posts and less than 10 shitposts, which is a bit strange. I do remember, though, that I ignored people shitting on bloodborne or the souls games. This time I want to have some clear rules as tho what is and isn't a shitpost before starting my investigation. So far I've only covered the basics. Is there anything else I should ass to the shitpost list?
THAT FUCKING GIANT
HOLY SHIT
>>135383004
That's the best trailer, though. At least it's not that true colors shit.
>>135383051
old news
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news
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>>135383051
>dragon god2.0
Fuck I though they had some new launch trailer. This shit is from last year.
>2016.3.24
>already preordered japanese version7 D A Y S
Someone wake me up when they get past the stills
>is black
>is killed on pretty much the beginning of any playthrough for his armor
did from intend for this?
ELITE KNIGHT
>>135383348
wake up
>>135383354
Japan hates black people.
>this area
>again
WOW, THE TUTORIAL AREA
JUST WHAT I WANTED TO SEE
Elite Knight set confirmed.
>>135382950
DaS 2 was an experiment.
Most of said experiment was arguably a failure, but some things are beneficial to the series as a whole, such as guardbreak to riposte since it disincentivises turtling. This is why we're going back to a more DaS1 type system which is arguably as a whole more sound, with some of the good experimental stuff added like aforementioned guardbreaks and 360 degree rolls as opposed to the four way rolls in das1, but with the orientation based on lock-on instead of the way it was in das2.
Just to name a few reasons.
>>135382987
What the fuck is wrong with that fucking woman holy fuck.
i still think the movement is still too fast and floaty
Holding rapier stance looks neat
Please tell me someone's recording that sickass rapier stance
>>135383501
uwah
kakoi
sugoiiiiii
ehhhhhhhhh
She sounds so fucking disinterested.
uh uh uh eh eh eh
>>135383501
sugoiii~
She's already dead inside.
Also every rapier is ricards rapier confirmed.
>>135383430
Like last month, kiddo
Will DaS3 have directional rolling while locked on like 2?
>>135383531
yeah, i'll make you some dank webms bby
>>135383567
From what I've seen from oro's vids the rolls are 360 degree but the orientation is like in das1.
>>135383501
Just imagine an english event where they hire a woman to say AMAZING every 30 seconds.
Worst mace confirmed
What does morning star WA do?
nice guard break f@m
>>135383714
Same as the mace. Poise buff for a few second.
>>135383048
specifically:
>Any post that begins a game war
>Any post that begins a console war
>Any post that begins a reply chain about the soulsborne title
>Any post that begins a reply chain about /bbg/
>Any post that begins a reply chain about trip faggotry (including a post by a trip)
>Any post that continues any of the above in an obviously inflammatory way, you can't just count any post in the chain because there are ways to have this discussion in a mature way but it should hopefully be obvious what is and isn't an attempt at this
Beyond this there are more specific kinds of shitposting like the boss of new londo autist and so on, hopefully you can tell for yourself what counts for that.
>>135383714
poise and maybe damage reduction
dogshit for pve
axe weapon art is loads better
>>135383567
that shit system is made optional thankfully
>>135383694
But she sounds so fucking dead,
ohhh
ehhh
all the fucking time, like nothing happens, and there is fucking grunt from her anyway.
Is this japanese thing?
>>135383713
fight me cunt
>>135383694
More like every five
>>135383762
>implying
It deflects weak attacks, decreases damage like 60%, grants you super armor
New thread when? page 10
>>135383854
Ehhhhhh?!
>>135383801
it's not a shit system. it makes dodging directly through attacks a lot easier
Reminder that if you don't parry Iudex on your first playthrough you're a casual.
>he actually died
First the club, now the rapier. It seems like multi hit WAs are really worthless for damage and staggering bosses.
holy fuck that mace poise is actually good against the boss, he chained it through his combo and took like no damage while attacking during the down time.
neat
>weapon art multi attacks do literally fuck all damage
WHY EVEN EXIST
CLUB RAMPAGE ATTACK IS THE SAME
5 SECOND ANIMATION LOCKED FOR THE DAMAGE OF 2 R1S
what is this
>>135383760
Thanks for your help, anon.
>>135383994
>>135383980
IT'S OVER
MIYAZAKI IS FINISHED
>>135384010
Armor.
>Japanese lady immediately perks up once a tentacle monster appears
Her ovaries freaking exploded.
>>135383994
The weapon's unupgraded, m8.
It'd be OP as fuck if it just magically did tons of damage.
Gundyr seems a hell of a lot more aggressive
He didn't have that two step tackle before
Am i imagining things or did they change the shape of his weapon?
The tip of the blade goes beyond the back of the haft now
>>135384010
"Armor of the Old Ashen Knights
Some say there was an old king that ruled a great kingdom, or perhaps..."
>>135384105
>The weapon's unupgraded, m8.
that's irrelevant
compare it to regular r1s of the same weapon, it just isn't worth it
>>135384137
>He didn't have that two step tackle before
Yes he did.
>>135384137
>Am i imagining things or did they change the shape of his weapon?
>The tip of the blade goes beyond the back of the haft now
It was like that before, as well.
>>135384102
She's having flashbacks to that one JAV she did.
>>135384142
>or perhaps...
oh fuck no not this style of item description
>>135384010
"The pleasure of being cummed inside"... what?
>>135384163
>it just isn't worth it
It's got hyper armor, though.
Not to mention I could see the WA damage increasing exponentially as you upgrade the weapon.
Saw Dragoons of the Deep and Hig Lord something on the OST.
>>135383415
Me too
is that all the footage?
what a waste of time
>>135384324
What were you expecting?
Those HDD covers look neat.
>>135384163
Defense, bruh
With low weapon upgrades and low stats, weak attacks are really weak
When the weapon is upgraded and you have a sharp gem on it + 40/50 dex, you can bet those will definitely be worth it
>>135384324
at least we saw a pickaxe...
>>135384374
AYO
MIGRATE
New thread when?
New thread?
I'm about to fight Gwyn, shall I use all my souls and boss souls to level up? Will I need them in NG+?
