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>/dsg/ Player List
http://pastebin.com/9hG50KHX
>/dsg/ Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral
>Draw
http://doodleordie.com/r/darksouls
http://imgur.com/a/XhBxC (DeS)
http://imgur.com/a/wwtuf (DaS2)
http://flockmod.com/dsg
>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a
>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/h1etMh8E
>Essential PC mods
http://pastebin.com/XwL5KDhB
>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v
>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n
>DARK SOULS 3
http://pastebin.com/RDDaqtcP>True
Colors of Darkness Trailer
[YouTube] Dark Souls III - Shadows Ahead | PS4, X1, PC
http://www.gamersyde.com/download_dark_souls_iii_true_colors_of_darkness-36715_en.html
>List of Confirmed Dark Souls 3 weapons
http://pastebin.com/SPbWEGnH
>>135301573
RING RING
>>135301573
2nd for
>Soulsborne
LMAO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2KINJFwnVE
Fourst for Fuck Bloodborne leaking into my Dark Souls 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxJ2xKBGrU4&feature=youtu.be
great lance seems so fucking broken
gankers are going to be problematic
>>135302163
come on man, I beseech you to accept it as best you can.
Do you praise?
Oh lord, do I praise!
Rate and post fashion!
>>135302257
I'll make a webm.
>>135301573
art looks like fucking ragnarok
>happy people in souls universe
No
>>135302257
Why would gankers be a problem when I'll be busy skewering whole groups with my greatlance?
>>135302257
just dodge to the side when they do the charge
What are some good/fun powerstance combos?
>>135302463
Why would you use OP weapons?
Why Do I have the feeling that DaS3 pvp Will be korean hack 'n' slash mmorpg af?
>>135302723
Quadblades.
ARE SPEARS STILL A THING?
I NEED MY SPEARS
GIVE ME WEAPON ART SPEARSSPEARS________
>>135302723
Possessed Armor Sword and Gargoyle Bident
>>135302378
>ds2
>"fashion"
>>135302979
here comes the guy no one invited
Where's the fist weapons art webms at?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxJ2xKBGrU4
Reposting for those who missed it.
>>135302773
Why do I have the feeling that you're a massive faggot?
Can I use CE on SOTFS to dupe souls and stuff without getting a ban?
I know that directly modifying your inventory and having infinite stacks gets you.
>>135302979
>executioner gauntlets with constable's top
>knight's silver-white ponytail with dark hair
This is a disaster. Not even your magic blue snotrockets can hide the atrocity that is your wardrobe
>>135302378
9/10
>>135302526
spooky/10
>>135302710
>teleports behind you
>>135302714
top kek 11/10
>>135302979
JJ Abrams/10
>>135302257
>0:50
GLORIOUS NIPPON STEEL NOW ALLOWS YOU TO FLY
>>135303119
Because you like to project
>>135303184
i cant stick to any other headgear and i need to stay mobile anon
with that sword im teleporting nowhere but to t he nearest bonfire
here is a fat dog cosplay
>bonewheel shield has proper attacks with a real spin-the-wheel art
>DeS dual skeleton katanas are in complete with their jump attack
>you STILL can't become a skeleton
Blunder of the century
>>135302378
no helmet in the game will ever go well with the Aurous set/10
>>135302526
pretty good, it's too bad that the Archdrake Helm doesn't mesh well with other sets when not a phantom
>>135302384
Can't stop the train.
>>135302378
>ds2
>"fashion"
I wonder how far into the game it will be before you can get Shiva's armor? I'm planning a Mercenary dex character as my first and that armor is awesome.
>>135302124
ring ring?
>>135303441
So fucking OP, going to feel disgusted with myself when I use it one day
GUYS I JUST SAW THE KATANA JUMP THING
FUCKING BLACK SKELETON JUMPING ATTACK IS FINALLY A THING
OH FUCKING LAWD IM HYPED
>yfw the dex stat ends up affecting how fast you run/walk
>1 dex is about going slow as a tanky turtle
>99 dex ends up being Sanic the Kathog as you roll and kill at the speed of dicks
>yfw Sanic speed dexfags
>>135303737
That depends on the tracking. If you miss that attack you're fucked.
>>135303441
Jousting lances were not used irl as foot weapons for a reason
But I cant tell whats the reason
These things are a bit annoying. It's good that their damage and defense is shit, though.
>>135303885
>dex pyro builds not only burn and poison you while spamming r1s, they now run and roll even faster
>>135303410
Maybe we'll get a skeleton covemant that allows additional movement, similar to kos parasite and milkweed in BB
>>135302378
>R8
k
7/10, shield doesn't go well with that chestpiece.
>>1353027105/10
>>135302714
I love enlarged head despite the fack that it's not wobbly on the player character, unlike the fucking golden cone.
10/10, it's ok.
>>135302979
rooddood/10.
>>135303184
thematic/10, I love it.
>>135303413
saul al-samefacemed/10.
№2 and 5 are great.
>>135303517
featuring Guardian of Mausoleum™ from Dark Soul III™ Dark Crypt Edition™/10
>>135303720
Always adored this one.
>>135303898
That's what they said about DaS2 lances, but the charge carried you so far you were generally safe
>>135303798
>you can finally be a skeleton (maybe)
>you can finally be a 2kat black skeleton
hold me /dsg/
>>135304076
Oh god, it now just hit me: Sanic speed pyros stabbing and burning and murdering you whilst also killing you with katanas.
It even has a perfect name for the build: Blaze the Kat.
>>135302257
it triggers me a lil bit to see shiva without his kumo
>>135303930
They were unwieldy. You needed the forge generated by the mount for it to do any damage, because you sure as shit wasn't going to thrust repeatedly with the thing.
It's too big, too thick, too heavy, and too rough.
>>135304107
>Always adored this one.
Oh gosh.
>>135303962
brother
>>135303441
Stunlocking someone into that will feel great.
Hey /v/ what's you're favourite Dark Souls youtuber? Mine is Onlyafro, his giant dad video is hilarious as fuck 2bh.
>>135303441
What's different? I sense some kind of difference between this and DaS2 lance running attack, but I can't quite tell what is it.
>>135304239
Fortunately the chosen undead didn't skipped legs day
>>135303962
>actually being smart
Using blue burrs with the spell res ring you got also helps.
>Literally Yuria's witchgarb from Demon's
oh fucking whoa
>>135304380
Is this what new looks like?
>>135304283Actually...
>>135304380
I like Helkite (when he isn't posting music again and again) and Crestfallen for the debug vids.
>>135304516
i dont get it
>>135304468
I think it's the game speed. DS3 is faster.
>>135304239
>It's too big, too thick, too heavy, and too rough.
>>135304495
>implying
SotFS amana is castrated as fuck.
BACK IN MY DAYS YOU COULD EVADE THEIR MAGIC ARROWS BY SIMPLY WALKING.TO THE LEFT.
>>135304380
Well I thought it was pretty funny at the time. It still gets a chuckle out of me.
>>135304642
f-fuck I mean couldnt
>>135304594
He is saying that he's a grill (girl)
So Brother doesn't work since it's a she, but it's a guy so don't worry.
>>135304380
To this day i still watch his old forest invasion videos, I can't wait until he does videos for dark souls 3, asked him once if he was going to do it again and he said yes
Can't wait, he always acted like he didn't care when he lost but YOU JUST KNOW it hurted him every single time
>>135304380
Otzdarva
>>135304239
Who cares man, undead are superhuman anyways so the ain't gotta explain shit.
>>135303391
this is a nice doggy
>>135304642
I didn't have that much of a problem with the unpatched amana. I just used blue burrs, spell shield, ring and so on after dying two times. Dying a couple of times doesn't make it a bad area. I really hope people don't just dismiss a dark souls 3 area simply because they died like 5 times.
>>135303412
unique/10
>>135304908
What does he even do? I inadvertently streamsnipped him the other day and as far as I can tell all he does is whine in a french accent and lose in the arena.
>>135304824YOU GOT STABBED IN YO CHEST
>>135303441
I-Is this the first call?
Could he be back?
>still playing Shit Souls 2
>still talking about Shit Souls 2 in this itt thread
Stop this, please. Thank you.
>>135305234
DRAGONBONE GLITCH! Did you see that?! Pieces of you know what
>>135303526
that's pretty fuckin neat
>>135301918
People keep posting this meme incorrectly and it triggers my autism
You start with "faint ringing.jpg"
then you do "hey buddy.jpg"
then you do "later buddy.png"
For fuck sake guys learn the meme, your reductionist philosophies aren't working and I'm gonna have to start posting so I can get them all in every thread
>>135305380
Just like chess, the elaborate intricacies of the backstab meta are such that only a sufficiently perfected supercomputer could ever hope to master it.
>king's set with throne defender helmet
ah yes nigger that's the spot
>my character is female
fug
now she looks like an old man
I absolutely cannot find this skeleton thing you kids are talking about in the video
Why does coop feel so dead in dks2? I'm trying to get summoned around 700k sm but it never happens.
>>135304380
Yami, xskulled, not much else.
Holy shit. I just shat my pants.
NOO I WAS SO CLOSE
>>135305402
And the post content is as follows
>ring ring
>RING RING
>RING RING
>RING RING
fucking bad memers you all are
>>135305346
>defiling the image of best girl with your attempts at shitstirring
>using slavic maymays on a ching chong nip nong bulletin board
You
Feeble
Fuck
go back to sosach famalam
>>135305574
The dual katana jump attack is the same as the black skeleton's from Shrine of Storms.
>>135305205
He's trying to do a no hit run.
>>135305346
Shh, no more tears now, shitposter-chan. It'll all be over in a month.
>>135305595
Shit dragons are cunts.
>>135305594
>place is full of holes
>camera not panned down
You are asking to die sempai
>>135305759
oh oh yeah gotcha. Thought it was a suit or something.
Why have I never seen this used against me?
>>135306000
Because tumblebuffing is a pain in the ass and most people will just BS you out of the casting animation
/dsg/ discord room
https://discord.gg/0t9VioBfIvE7dz8j
>>135306067
Yeah its hard to pull off, but its been years and I didn't even know this existed until just yesterday. You would think at least one person would've cheesed me with it.
I finally found a spot where you can slav squat
this brings peace to me
what with this downgrade rumour?
8 D A Y S
D
A
Y
S
who sends the crow to grab the chosen undead to firelink shrine? is it like the school bus for chosen undead would be people?
>>135306606
A graphical glitch was spotted in one of the versions, people started to panic.
That's pretty much it.
>>135306606
Some rusemaster took footage showing off an outdated build and compared it with recent XBO footage (which is the better looking one)
>>135306515
If the Gutter didn't have those goddamn statues it would have been pretty goddamn sweet. The Black Gulch was just fucking retarded
>>135306606
Just some differences between old and newer builds so far. It's just a rumor as you said,for now at least.I wouldn't worry about it and I doubt it's a downgrade.
>>135306606
Don't start that bullshit again. Some dudes played on an outdated and severely glitched build, posted vídeos of them playing online and some retards started screaming downgrade
Whats a good way to check if you're softbanned and is a softban permanent?
>>135306805
>I wouldn't worry about it
Are you a goddamn skinwalker?
>>135306606
Some footage from an event in London looks like shit compared to the game we've seen at every other event.
Some people think it's a downgrade and there are some sub-par arguments being passed around to defend the reason the game looks like shit.
It can't just be a bug, the ground textures and buildings are totally 100% different.
If I complete Stonefang Tunnel without dying in body form, will that be enough to get me pure WWT and get the DBS?
Also if I want to get black character tendancy to scale with DemonBrandt how many friendly NPC's should I murderize?
>>135306967
>what are different angles
>>135306967
Maybe they were using an older build.
ARE SPEARS STILL A THINGI need to make my lancer build
>>135307353
I mean one of the buildings in the distance was fucking blue and obviously glitched. I don't even know how anyone can think it isn't an outdated build.
are there any summons for king vendrick?
>>135307360
Yeah, they're good in one and two, Dragonslayer is good in both, and a spear/longsword combo in 2 is one of the best combos
>>135307216
>>135307353
I've watched the London footage a dozen times, maybe. I've seen every argument people have against it being a downgrade, I think.
The game really does look totally different. It's not different angles, it's missing fog, no texture meshes on some objects, even more. People said all kinds of things like this about DAS2 when the first downgraded footage came out. The reality is that we won't know for sure until Jap release because FROM has mislead consumers in the past with footage, builds, and screenshots.
We can argue about it all we want but there's no way to know for sure.
>>135307451
It wasn't blue, it had lower LoD than the same building in a different build. The fucking tiles on the ground are totally different models. It's clear that the builds are different and that it's not the result of a bug.
The question that needs answering is whether that's the build we are going to get.
>>135307360
Greatlance is back and spears are obviously in
Can something like this be a miracle?
Like the Curved Dragon greatsword Special move but in miracle form.
>>135307582
https://youtu.be/vQ1WVcFbDTI?t=1m5s
Here is the actualy Playstation build and not the shitty on that they showed to that Sunlight faggot
>>135307604
>Greatlance is back and spears are obviously in
Yeah, we even have twin spears now.
>>135306000
it's more effective to just be a mager, use stone sword special, cast homing soul mass, and run in with dark bead.
>>135307761
I have watched this video because someone else asked me too. Don't you remember DAS2 release? The preview builds given to streamers and reviewers were fakes, they were not the final build of the game. This is why I don't believe this is definitively the final build until I see it on my desktop for myself.
Your argument is legit, but I'm too skeptical after the clusterfuck last time.
>>135307940
But that shit didn't happened with Bloodborne, maybe it's a NamcoBandai thing.
>>135303132
FUCKING CHEATING SCUM
>>135307914
pursuers*
>>135307842
BUZZ BUZZ
>>135307734
Sluts cant use miracles
>>135307842
OH SHITDiarmuid build inc
>>135308042
Bloodborne was also an exclusive and their QA / testing time was entirely spent on PS4. They didn't have to worry about porting and the graphical changes that could bring due to hardware limits.
>>135308137
You don't have to be pure to use miracles, only have enough faith.
>haven't played bloodborne in months
>decide to play it
>9.3gb update patch
>9 hours left
>>135303132
my dumbass brother modified his SM and went to lvl 167 but had 0 sm and invaded some guy playing
Don't do that, he didn't get banned but you can get banned for it
What I do is drop a lifegem, change it to say, 50 Ivory King souls, and use them, totally safe and you don't risk messing with SM/SL
>>135308357
Doing the DLC?
>>135307842
>Dank spears
We're all officially doomed
>>135308348
Faith in the cock doesnt count anon.
>>135308527Don't tell heal-slut anon that.
>>135308496
That's the plan, though I'm starting from scratch. I haven't bought the DLC yet since I don't think it's like SotFS where it'd matter.
It's now up to 11 hours. No clue why the fuck it's so long.
>>135304516
Please be in Londor
Hey guys I've been away for a while because I want to stay relatively pure for DaS3, I just need to know: Will dragon form be back?
>>135308894
The DLC really made me enjoy BB a lot more. You'll love it, anon.
>>135308938
Why wouldn't it?
I was right
>>135304824
This is the only acceptable answer.
I miss that high speed hotshot.
>>135308938
I think dragon covenant has been confirmed.
>>135302301
That's quite a bit of stamina usage, more than anything seen in the March 1 footage. Is it a more recent build?
>>135302378
Would you hire this Landsknecht to watch your back and do some bro-op?
>>135307150
I HAVE WORK, PLEASE ANSWER THIS BY THE TIME I GET BACK
>That feel when you can't find a weapon you have fun using in Dark souls 2
>>135309331
I'm starving for coop actually, sm?
>>135309367
If you're playing online, killing 2 bosses will get you to Pure White if you haven't died.
>>135307150
All you have to do is beat two bosses without dying. You don't have to kill the Dragon God.
If you play online your tendency will be fucked up though.
>>135309330
Nigga he can do 4 r1 attacks with zero stamina investment, stamina usage is as low as in BB
>>135309330
Probably earlier build actually, because that build was the one with the "downgrade" and graphic glitches. It could also be that he doesn't have the stats to wield it.
>>135309117
They might decide to just give you an armor ala: DaS2
>>135309331
Of course. SM?Vanilla? ;_;
>>135309415
ultra greatswords
curved greatswords
greathammers
greataxes
lances
everything else is namby-pamby crap
>>135309415
Use Ricard's Rapier to achieve 1,000+ combos like a real champ.
>>135307558
Nope
Anyone else feel like DaS3 pvp will be stale and shallow without animation canceling aggression?
People'll be afraid to attack just like in DaS1
>>135308887
YOU RANG?
>>135309581
it's a friggen' whip, far heavier weapons in the footage were using up less, but >>135309582 is probably right, I didn't notice the cross
>>135309614
Scholar of the first sin, sorry
>>135309483
660k, I still haven't gotten through brightstone or gutter. I spent a while farming Smelter. Steam is EuJesty
WAIT WHERES THE SCARF ON THE SHADOW SET
Is there any way to speed downloads on PS4 up? I'm trying to update BB but it's 6GB and it's going to take something like 6 hours, even on a 25mb/s connection.
>>135309942
I'm 720k, where should I place my sign?
>>135304239
>It's too big, too thick, too heavy, and too rough.
just the way I like my women
>>135309813
The game hasn't even released and people are already talking about if animation cancel is in or not?
VOTE!!!
http://strawpoll.me/7086324/
>>135309813
I dunno, with the harder to pull off backstabs and increased speed (factoring the BB style ring and seemingly low stamina consumption which may change or be nullified with bigger weapons/armour) it could be quite aggressive or at least have a place for aggressive fast assaults. As someone who has been recently playing both DA1 and 2 you don't realise how much faster 1 is thanks to even just the rolling.
I have high hopes for PVP and do think it'll be fast and brutal compared to... whatever the step in and out dance of 2 is.
>>135309815
Aren't you supposed to have hollow cocks in your mouth and stay quiet?
>>135309331
>calling yourself a Landsknecht
>not wearing Jesters tights
Sie zeigen keinen Ruhm auf dem Schlachtfeld mit einer solchen dumpfen Kleidung
>>135310212
just place it in the spider room, right next to the bonfire to the left.
>pointy wizzerd hat already confirmed
yes good
secretly hoping there might be more than one because the one shown is a ratty-looking witch hat and I need a fancy hat for my wizard, but witch is fine too. Witch outfit looked very much like yuria, which is neat.
>>135310208
Pause and start again
>>135310370
Oi you fuck off, they wore armor under the tons of scarps of cloth.
>>135304912
He specifically asked for an explanation.
What starting gift should I pick?
Fire Gem is stupid, since the game throws several gems at you right after the tutorial area. Besides I'm sure a decent amount of bosses will be fire resistant.
CREO sounds fun in theory, assuming you can invade right as you spawn, but Leonard gives you 5 when you arrive at the Shrine, so meh.
The white branch is only useful if you want to befriend that giant archer.
I think coin is might be the best shot. Pop it when you encounter an interesting humanoid enemy for dem delicious drops.
>>135310265
>the majority of people want to go boring ass generic knight AGAIN
>>135310905
>The white branch is only useful if you want to befriend that giant archer.
The giant gives you a branch, you don't actually have to give him anything.
And yeah, the coins seem like the most "useful" item.
>>135310905
Depends on what the crows give this time around. Fire gem could be worthwhile if it trades for something unique.
>>135310905
The rusted gold coin to get those armor sets.
>>135310617
Sure, but the ones who inspired their fame rarely did.
>>135311051
Oh, fuck, right, the crows.
What do you give to them now? Gems? Or the branch?
>>135311223
It's back to DaS1. You can trade any item in the game and each has a fixed counterpart that they'll give for it. Seigbrau gives you solaire's chestpiece, for example.
>>135311426
Would giving them Solaire's chestpiece result in recieving seigbrau drank?
>>135311163
Well I'm here to be an effective Landsknecht, not some flashy fucker that gets killed in two hits.And I don't know how to get the fancy hat without the mask
>>135310454
the bonfire after prowling magnus?
>Running PVP build through sen's for anal rodeo acess
>get invaded
>kill invader in one hit with chaos storm but also oneshot Siegmeyer
Shit
everything hurts inside
>>135311665
The bonfire after that, the one next to the giant pit.
>>135311663
i think it's in thesnowy dlc
Question about hollows: when you go full hollow and you get killed, are you dead for good? Why do the NPCs that go hollow (Logan, Griggs, Siegmeyer, Laurentius, Crestfallen, Cleric bros) disappear forever after you kill them once?
THREE FUCKING WEEKS, SIX FUCKING DAYS AND ONE FUCKING HOUR.
>>135312194fucking shit I die so much in there
>>1353122618 days
>>135311663
Outskirts of E.Loyce. Turn left after landing, you'll see where to go when it clears.
>>135311686
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!
>>135311663
They were flashy and good at fighting, that was the point of the crazy outfits.
>>135312195
Presumably, you find them right after they've hollowed. They revive again afterwards, but at that point they're no longer recognizably the person they were previously.
Laurentius could be any of the numerous hollow wretches you kill anywhere in the game. More likely, he probably becomes one of the egg dudes.
>>135312195
Can't be that considering all the other dozens of hollows that respawn, how puzzling.
>>135310523
You can use this guy's hat.
>>135312421
Because they wore armor underneath, m8
>>135310265
>no one going thief
why
>>135312472
>tfw if the book is a item drop we can go full mozgus
>>135307498
Assassin yesterday, what have the gods planned now.
>>135312195
I believe shit hollows reappear after they are killed, otherwise that "plague" wouldn't be considered that bad since you can just kill them once they go mad and never have to worry about them ever again. People wouldn't be locking them up in prisons or banishing them out of their kingdom if you could just slay them, Shit Hollows aren't hard to kill.
To me the implication of NPC disappearing after you kill them is that they just come back as Shit Hollows, without wearing their unique gear.
>>135312661
Because I already called dibs
>>135312195
They just fuck off from your timeline. It's pure coincedence you even know they exist.
What's this I'm hearing about pyromancy being unoptimized in DaS3? I thought it was doing a lot of damage in the demos. They already fucked over the INT/FAI scaling in DaS2, how could it be worse than that?
>>135312195
They "disappear" because reincarnation isn't instantaneous. "Time is convoluted" and all that and you all exist in parallel universes that are happening in different times in the same space. When your worlds overlap you see each other.
How long do you think it takes for you to appear back at your bonfire when you die? An hour? A year? Ten?
I know I'm not the only person who thinks this but I feel like I don't hear it often enough, I want confirmation here and now.
Who else looks at Scholar of the First Sin in a similar way to shitty fanmade romhacks? I feel like preferring it or vanilla comes down to why you're playing. If you're playing solely for the gamey aspects and couldn't give a shit about worldbuilding and clever world design, Scholar is just fine.
But when I first saw what they did with the Heide knights, taking them from being passive mysterious characters scattered to the wind throughout the world in vanilla, to just throwing fucking 20 of them into Heide's Tower of Flame seemingly because LOL IT'S CALLED HEIDE'S TOWER OF FLAME, HEIDE KNIGHTS!
Or like that lone Bastille knight just hanging around before Pursuer when originally your first encounter was rightly in the Bastille...
Or just throwing a fucking dragon/drake on to the too-tiny platform before Ornstein 2.0 because "Old Dragonslayer", get it? He has Dragon in his name so here's a dragon before his boss room! Nevermind that it makes no fucking sense even within that context because he's a Dragonslayer why the fuck would a dragon be anywhere near him?
When people praise enemy placement in Scholar I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
The kind of intelligent Miyazaki influence (see his design theory behind the Undead Dragons for best example) is already notably missing from vanilla, but with Scholar it's like they just completely through what little intelligent world building or overall vision they did manage to stumble upon out the fucking window in most cases just for the sake of a challenge or something.
>>135312472
>guy
>>135312970
You must come back to the bonfires real quick, otherwise the curse wouldn't be such a problem.
Also, parallel universes=/=alternate timelines
>>135313415
>lone Bastille knight
They're not Bastille knights, they're Royal Swordsmen. You see a ton of them in Drangleic Castle.
>Or just throwing a fucking dragon/drake on to the too-tiny platform before Ornstein 2.0 because "Old Dragonslayer", get it?
I think Miyazaki himself put that dragon there if I remember.
>>135309123
>All this hinting at becoming a skeleton
>This moveset is in the game
If there's no skeleton mode per se, I bet you 12 dollars theres an armourset that looks like the black skeletons.
>>135313714
My bad, the Drangleic knight then. I still think his presence is silly.
I'd be interested to know what Miyazaki's thought process was, though I consider the the dragon overall less egregious or obnoxious than their decision with the Heide Knights. The Heide Knights thing really annoyed me.
>Griggs plans to go to Sen's Fortress, where he goes hollow if you accelerate his plans by buying all his shit
>Logan goes bananas and is found swinging around in his underwear and hat
>Laurentius goes hollow because he can't perceive Quelana
>Siegmeyer either kills himself, gets rekt by chaos eaters, or becomes so insecure he becomes hollow and gets vanquished by his not-cursed onion daughter
>Solaire goes mad and dons the sunlight maggot because he never finds his sun, or kills Gwyn and relinks the fire, depressed until the very last moment of his life
>Quelana just poofs out of existence once you finish off her family line
>Fair Lady is blind and far too sickly to even recognize who you are if you speak to her even with the Old Witch's Ring
Why? What point in living is there?
>>135312161
Name engraved ring maybe? My sign is next to the bonfire.
So I just played DS2 and I'm currently on the scorpion girl. The game looks beautiful and is fun to play, but when do boss fights get good? They have all been the same boring shit. Makes me even miss BoC holy shit.
Post yfw when you kill your first skeleton and it drops a Sharp Gem
>>135312964
T'was the pyromancer class. Go back to yer swamp.
>>135312752
>Not going assassin
You wish you were us.
>>135313965
There is a theory Siegmeyer isn't actually dead, since he didn't disappear when killed and his model is still doing the "breath" animation inside the armor
>>135313415
Heide Knights being in Heides Tower of Flame makes way more sense than them being scattered around, you still have 2 random ones but both of those actually sort of make sense one being lost in a hole the other locked up.
Royal Swordsmen being in the ruins of the castle that is the FotFG makes perfect sense.
What I'm trying to get is that instead of looking at the changes and trying to make sense of them, you just look at the changes and went "THIS IS DIFFERENT THEREFORE BAD" the royal swordsmen is the best example, nothing in the lore ever states that they are supposed to be in the bastille exclusively and you find them in Castle Drangleic later on, but instead of running with this fact you just assumed that they were bastille knights and then ragged on the changed placement for going against your HEADCANON rather than what is explicitly stated in the game
>>135314059
How about you add me on steam and we can speed this up? Eujesty
is it true? I just saw on a /vg/ thread that skeleton hollow is apparently a thing
pic related, from the new 2kat trailer
LET THERE BE A SKELETON COVENANT
I JUST WANT TO EMBRACE LIVING AS A WHEEL SKELETON
>>135314145
>dex/int
>fagstoc
>no dagger
Disgusting.
>>135314085
Only good boss fights in DaS2 are:
>Fume Knight
>Ivory King
>Smelter Demon
>King Pet's Alva
>Sir Alonne
>Sihn The Slumbering Dragon
>King Vendrick
>Throne Watcher and Defender
>>135314407
>incoming lucy with his amazing webm
>>135314305
to be clear I mean BEING a skeleton hollow
>>135313965
>Griggs plans to go to Sen's Fortress, where he goes hollow if you accelerate his plans by buying all his shit
Holy shit really?
I had no idea.
>>135314305
Time will tell.
If skeleton mode isn't in, an armourset that looks like the black skeletons will be
>yfw Pinwheel was working on Metal Skeletons before we stopped him
>yfw Dark Souls 3 skeleton leader has finished the job
>yfw you can become a bone/gold/biack iron skeleton
>>135314320
>Implying dex/int is anything but God
>Implying I'm not gonna get handed my rapier and dagger in no time flat
The only thing disgusting here, is your starter equipment.
>>135313965
>What point in living is there?
Life is brilliant. Beautiful. It enchants us, to the point of obsession.Beyond the scope of light, beyond the reach of dark... what could possibly await us? Yet we seek it, insatiably.
>>135314184
Of course he's not dead
Undeads just reborn from bonfires every time they get "killed", thats why the undead asylum was builded in the first time
>>135314407
Aava and Alonne are the only good bosses in that list.
>>135314671
>talkin' shit about the bandit's knife
You crossed the line, nigga.
You, me, the high wall. See you in ~4 weeks
>>135314145
>T'was the pyromancer class. Go back to yer swamp.
What are you trying to say? If the pyromancer was doing lousy fire damage all that proves is that scaling is awful like DaS2 since they start with a decent amount of INT/FAI. I want to know if upgrading the glove does noticeable damage.
>>135314184
So he was just pranking Sieglinde?
>>135303441
>That fucking windup before the charge
Here comes the pain train faggot!
>>135314576
If you buy everything Griggs sells (I think after he starts selling Logan's spells) you can find him hollowed somewhere inside Sen's.
>>135314492
He's right though. A boss fight can't be fun unless it's hard. Isn't this what the Souls series is about, anyway? Every time you die, you're having fun. Bed of Chaos and the platforming in Anor Londo is some of the funnest shit in the series, after all. Laurence is the hardest boss in Bloodborne, and everyone knows he's also the funnest.
>>135314578
>Metal Skeletons
it's a skeleton with a saw by his hand
>tfw no space magic in DS3
i-i hope abyss goo magic will be a thing
>>135314186
I'm definitely open to you blowing me the fuck out as you're doing with the great many of your examples, by all means.
But I'm pretty stubborn on the Heide Knight thing. Obviously it makes sense from an obvious, superficial perspective. But not from the perspective of what I felt to be an obvious and valid interpretation of the implications in vanilla. Which, you know, I guess doesn't matter because SOTFS is canon, a retcon even. But simply put the area is in complete disrepair, just torn all to shit, and I preferred it much more when the appearance was that its former knights all left and wandered to different corners of the world without purpose. Reflected by their complete passivity.
>>135314873
We don't know. It possible whatever means she used to stop him crippled instead of outright killing him.
>>135314830
They were referring to it's general starting stats. We don't know the scaling numbers but we do know for a lot of builds it's got a lot of wasted points for anything not pyromancy.
>>135314797
That's if you get there with your broken butter knife and your missing gloves.
>>135315046
>That magic L2 explosion
absolutely wrecks, yet it never feels like it's cheap or OP.
>>135314990
You had me going for a second.
>>135315269
Same.
>>135315228
Probably because when you hit someone with it, you still see them where they were 3 quicksteps ago, back when they were still within range.
Being on the receiving end of that hot piece of garbage is nothing but cheap. It might as well have infinite phantomrange for how practical it is to escape some etheopian's high ping pose.
Is there anykind of map of the dark souls world?
Are the souls games even in the same world? What about demons?
>>135315046
We have hexes, m8. Best magic tree.
>>135315394
All the Dark Souls games are part of the same universe, Demon's Souls and Bloodborne are their own thing.
I left for a fw days, what's with this 2Kat Skeleton meme?
>>135315374
I was referring to general use, take your PvP woes somewhere else and set your shit to local.
>>135302378
Going on a SL1 rush to the Great Scythe and Gravelord Greatsword for the first time.
Wish me luck!
>>135315685
Use the morningstar to crumple skeletons
>>135315564
the 2kat skeleton is confirmed to make a return iirc
>>135315072
>and I preferred it much more when the appearance was that its former knights all left and wandered to different corners of the world without purpose. Reflected by their complete passivity.
But this remains in the game, in the vanilla game you had 3 knights, in scholar you have 2 knights as well as all the knights in the tower of flame.
They are still portrayed as crestfallen knights with no goals left, but with the added caveat that if a significant enough event happens in the world (the dragonrider being killed in this case) they regain some motivation and start moving around again.
What kind of hexes are confirmed for Dark Souls 3? I hear Yuria sells them?
Every single weapon so far looks fun to play with. I honestly don't know what I am going to shot for first.
>>135315564
There's a dual katana weapon arts in DS3 that has a move from the black skeletons using two katanas in DeS. "2kat" was a meme from DeS when people used two katanas.
>>135315958
Oh look, a pre-mature cancer meta
nice
>>135315958
>ridiculous crouching tiger hidden dragon dual katana battle art (?)
holy shit
>>135315934
Dark is back so yeah hexes are pretty much confirmed at this point
>>135315934
Yuria sells a book that be read by the blind slut so she can sell them
>>135315934
Confirmed so far are Vow of Silence, Dead Again and Dark Weapon.
Not sold by Yuria, but she sells the key item that unlocks hexes at the miracle merchant
>>135316092
If you think that jump attack means anything for the metal, you're mistaken.
>>135312970
This doesn't make sense. Why are those same NPCs constantly in the same spot in the same world then? If you never talk to Crestfallen Warrior, he is sitting in the exact same place for the entirety of the game. Is he just sitting there for thousands of years? I'm sick of people defending lore/world inconsistencies with the convoluted timeline thing.
>>135313415
>The kind of intelligent Miyazaki influence (see his design theory behind the Undead Dragons for best example)
>"I have a standard of elegance in design, I don't accept gross-out monster concepts."
>Makes a game where every enemy is an incoherent tentacle monster with a million eyes and teeth
Miyazaki helps create some fun games but he's a pretentious twat. Fuck his "design philosophies".
>>135315934
Also there's no more hexes as hexes, just dark miracles, sorceries, and pyromancies
>>135314698
top cringe friend. reddit is that way.
>>135315981
Rapier. Get a REAL sword for real men.
>>135316269
I think it's funny they explained the respawing better in BB.
>>135315984
>"2kat" was a meme from DeS
>>135316269
>Fuck his "design philosophies".
You do realize that miyazaki has never said this word, right? People just attribute everything they like about souls games to Miyazaki like the ground he walks on turns to pure gold. The pretentious ones are fuckwits who use phrases like "intelligence Miyazaki influence" unironically
>>135316442
thanks for the redirect friend
>>135316442
>cringing from Aldia dialogue
>>135316470
I'm referring to what that anon was referring to. Miyazaki sounds like a twat in this quote and given the monster design in Bloodborne he either changed his mind or hes a huge hypocrite.
Is there a working hex ID list for DS2? All i can find have wrong shield IDs.
>>135316459
Why quote it friend? It is only the truth.
>>135309813
I'm actually glad it's gone, played around 1k hours of DaS2 pvp but I'm ready for something new, I like learning the souls techs from each game
>>135316269
>>135316705
>unironically shitting on Bloodborne's designs
>taking it as some indicator of Miyazaki changing his mind or being a pretentious hypocritic
It's a fucking Lovecraft inspired cosmic horror game you gigantic faggot. Have you played Bloodborne?
>>135304908
>Otzdarva
Mah nigga
>>135304380
Limit Breaker because the dude is a madmen
I mean look at this shit www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mmiadcweNQ
Crestfallen has some cool debug stuff too
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRXlCbzW93A
>>135316705
We don't even have to look at BB, just look at the undead dragon in DaS1 and the dragon asses, its pretty much the textbook definition of making things scary by making them ugly/disgusting to look at.
>>135316821
http://pastebin.com/F55swCDR
Worked for me when I was trying to get a Loyce Shield
>>135316459
He's right, "2kat" is a DeS meme. The Dwarf Fortress meme it's based on was "2cat".
>>135316705
What's wrong with BB designs?
>>135317032
Nigga where did anyone say that BBs design was bad?
It's just the literal opposite of what he claimed before in his interviews.
>>135317032
I'm not shitting on Bloodborne's designs, I'm saying they are literally the exact opposite of what Miyazaki is talking about when it comes to "elegance" in monster design. Every enemy is a gross-out splatter freak show. There's nothing wrong with that, I love the gross shit in Bloodborne, but it's not anything like what he's talking about and I hate when fanboys defend him to the death.
>>135315934
There aren't really hexes anymore. They were rolled into the DaS1 magic classes and modified. From what we have seen they now fit into traditional faith or int build without requiring the other stat. They are basically just miracles, spells and pyromancies but one or two of them might require some other stat.
>>135317032
You sound mad friend.
>>135315830
Thanks for the advice but I made it with just rolls.
It should be just the same to get to Nito.
I accidentally used the throne defender soul because I'm a retard
If I use the bonfire ascetic to make them respawn, do I have to fight nashandra again?
>>135316269
>This doesn't make sense. Why are those same NPCs constantly in the same spot in the same world then?
I don't think they're sitting there for thousands of years. I think those places where they sit are easy locations for the worlds to blend together, and that's why you only see them in those locations.
> I'm sick of people defending lore/world inconsistencies with the convoluted timeline thing.
I'm not trying to defend the game having shitty design conflicts or problems. I'm just saying it makes sense that the timelines get crazy and you interact with people in the future, and the past, and the worlds blend together and it results in paradoxes that are just easier to accept if you don't think about them. The characters in-game (Solaire) even says that leaving a white sign will help him find your world again, and that there's no telling how long the effect will last or when you will see each other next. I think removing NPCs from the game permanently after killing them is just as easily explained as "time is convoluted" as anything else.
For example, Tarkus kills the giant in his world but dies in Anor Londo, so why is his summon sign left behind at the giant, and why can you fight the giant if it's already died? Etc., etc., we could do the "Time is Convoluted" thing all day.
I made a cleric and I'm trying to do a hexxer but i'm not a huge fan. I kinda just use a poking sword with dark weapon and dark orb. Will I be impressed if I continue on the path? I like using melee so I can't bring myself to do PURE hexes. My casting stats and att are still low because I was under the impression that it takes a long while to get a good hexing build.
Is there something else that people find more fun stemming from cleric I can Soul Vessel to?
I'm really just kinda lost and meh with things so far.
Are there weapons you guys would say are much better for endgame or PvP or is it just what you guys are comfortable using?
Honestly curious to see them make a better looking moonlight sword than BB's.
>>135304380
Emarrel, since he's actually quite good at the game.
>>135317329
>>135317305
Not the guy you are talking to but isn't the thing though that he HAD to fit into a pre-existing aesthetic and expectation? Even then you could argue some of the enemies in Bloodborne had good designs but I feel it really does come down to preference. I thought it captured abyssal horror of the great beyond quite well which by definition isn't gonna mesh with his Dark Souls/General design idea. I most certainly can't really find a way to make eldritch horror elegant.
>>135317032
Miyadrones in full force today.
>>135304380
I like OnlyAfro as well. He got less interesting when he started doing let's plays. I prefer his silly shit.
>>135317680
There are better PvP weapons/endgame ones
I just like using the ASS and SSS more than other weapons, it's actually not that incapacitating to have some personal flavor in a build.
>>135305586
>yami
>watching him act like he's good when all he showcases is him fighting against painfuully new players
>>135317032
>>135317979
I personally accept the reality that is BB's design influence, but that doesn't mean I don't think it's ugly as sin. I think it's ugly and totally uninspired. I did really like the game though. The atmosphere was great.
>>135317680
I always try to put fashion souls and preference first but sometimes you gotta drop a weapon.
>See Scimmy versus Falchion for the vast majority of players
>>135316705
What a fucking cunt, imagine putting hours and hours on character desing so this fat autist tells you it isn't dignified.
>>135317791
The sword from Dark Souls 1 doesn't really look like that, the color is wrong.
>>135317635
Just stick to 3 attunement slots, 2 for Dark Orb and 1 for Dark Weapon, then grab whatever weapon you want then enchant it with dark if you really want to or just run around buffing it every now and then with Dark Weapon.
This leaves you with a solid melee weapon as well as one of the most powerful ranged options for dealing with enemies you would rather not facefuck
>Shotel +15
>Chaos Rapier +5
>Ricard's Rapier +15 (w/ buffs like Sunlight Blade adj. by Solaire's Talisman)
>WotG
What are some more items I can acquire to be a scum player in PvP?
>>135307498
Lets see
>>135304380
Krazy. That guy is the purest form of dickwraith
>>135317791
Darkmoonlight Greatsword. Blade looks like a starry night, cue dickwraiths named Pink Floyd.
>>135317791
>R2s are slashes that fire projectiles
>WA is the longsword stance
>stance light attack is the magic L2 thrust from BB (also a guardbreak)
>stance heavy attack is a huge, sweeping horizontal slash that extends the length of the sword with magic, like soul greatsword
>>135317929
well even Dark Souls has some monsters that are gross-out. the Blightown crag spiders, engorged zombies and phalanxes in Painted World, mass of souls in New Londo, and Gaping Dragon. all those enemies are just retarded deformed monstrosities
again, I have no problem with fucked up disgusting creatures, I love that 80s horror movie shit and its part of why I like Bloodborne so much. but for Miyazaki to try and say theres a standard of elegance there, thats fucking ridiculous
>>135317518
There are no bonfires in the Throne of Want.
>>135318497
>Chaos Rapier
Wait, did it do anything different back in DS1? It was okay-tier in DS2.
>>135317518
Yes
>>135317032
Calm down, he's also got a point, if Miyazaki wants to be different from other titles so badly, then he should stick to his word ,just sayin
>>135317830
>magic spammer
>good at the game
>>135317518
>>135318670
The first bonfire in Drangleic Castle respawns them. But you'll have to fight Nashandra and Aldia again.
>>135318306
>>135318074
Ah alright, I was mainly wondering since I cant find any damn weapon I enjoy using for the life of me
>>135317791
Objective truth:
Das2 has the best handle
Bloodborne has the best blade.
>>135315685
>sl1
>clearly not pyro
>>135318708
Chaos was an infusion in 1. It was a direct upgrade to the fire infusion and caused the damage to scale with your currently-held humanity but not with any stats. The ultimate in twink and vitgouge shittery
>>135317791
DeS>DSII>BB>DS1.
>>135318669
Oh most certainly, I see where you're coming from now. Yeah I can agree with that. There is an average there but that average gets dropped by a number of things.
Those things are okay too, they fit in well with the Dark Souls aesthetic but I would never come out and say they were all perfect designs. I think by default you lose elegance points for being inspired by Berserk of all things.Nothing wrong with inelegant as you say.
>>135318962
Mind if I ask what game your on?
>>135318708
It's mostly for the memes
But fair note is that +15 Rapier has the highest riposte damage in the game.
>>135318963
I can totally get behind that, main reason I like the DS2 version so much is because of the way the handle looks
>>135318337
He has the right to do so, he's paying the artist.
>>135319104
>ds2's lego brick before the majestic one from BB
topkek m8
>>135319184
>>135319032
OH! Chaos infused rapier. Sorry, was thinking of the Chaos Rapier from 2 like "Was that in DS1? I don't remember it...Surely this guys knows."
>>135318893
But Bloodborne is different from most games.
>>135313415
>If you're playing solely for the gamey aspects and couldn't give a shit about worldbuilding and clever world design, Scholar is just fine.
That's just Dark Souls 2 in general, though. This would only make sense if Dark Souls 2's worldbuilding and world design weren't fucking awful, which they are.
So don't worry about it. They're both shit.
>>135310370
Only landsknecht can look manly playing a flute
>>135318946
wait shit
i forgot that i can just skip her with the feather right after i'm done with the defenders and just leave her be foreverunless i feel like ever starting NG+
>>135319142
I'm on DS2 SoTFS
>>135316705
>don't rely on the gross factor to portray an undead dragon
Makes sense.
>>135317514
Made it to Nito. Now it's time for easy mode.
I never noticed that the skulls and bones around nito had an opalized fossil effect. This game can be so rich with detail.
>you can't parry barefisted anymore
Shit game
>>135319017
sorry, I meant rush after asylum at base SL but of course you already knew what I meant.
>>135319605
Dead things are not necessarily gross.
What is the best build to do starting Cleric?
I dislike what I am doing.
I'm having trouble reconciling what stats to level first for a 'utility caster' build. I want melee and spells in the end and I'm not sure how to do it from a 'what stats get levelled first' standpoint. Base to weild weapon then defensive then casting stats?
>>135319574
Don't get too hung up on it then, the changes from 2 to 3 will be massive. Right now just get an idea of what you like and don't like in general, because right now you're playing catch up on a game that has little in common to the first and the third game in the series.
>>135313965
Dont forget
>Rhea cursed as an undead, comes to Lordran to try and help the fires, goes into spooky crypt
>gets knocked into a skeleton pit and her guard goes hollow
>if you save her she heads to the church and gets killed by a fat fuck who was too much of a coward to help her
>if you save her from THAT, she gets captured and locked in the archives where she hollows waiting to be experimented on
True fucking suffering
>>135316705
I think what Miyazaki meant is that most of the designs in the game are not "grotesque" for the sake of being grotesque. Like the Chaos demons or the beasts in BB, they are meant to be ugly, but they are almost never exceedingly so. Hell, even Ludwig being a fucking distorted mass of limbs and screeching acquires some humanlike poise after he brandishes the HMS. The patients in Research hall are meant to be horrifying mutations, but it isn't overdone like in some other games. They are in strapjackets and wear bags in their swollen faces, it's a pretty basic design, but it's still effective.
There's a lot of grotesque stuff in the games, but it never feels like it's being overdone.
>>135319954
What game are you talking about?
>>135301573
>still forcefully trying to merge bbg into dsg
fuck off, we dont feel the need to share threads with anti-console shitposters and besides that no souls has BB references, its a thing on its own.
let us be.
>>135302257
>drang hammers
>dual katanas
gonna cum
so much better than powerstance
>>135320120
Rhea was made to suffer.
What's with all the hatred towards mages and spellcasters?
Do people seriously believe that these games should exclusively be played sword-and-board? They're grabbing one of the most versatile games in the entire industry, taking hold of a single playstyle and saying "anyone who doesn't do this is a faggot"?
god damn that corovian greatknife looks exactly like the blade of woe. My dick is ready.
>>135319954
First answer this to yourself: "How new am I to the game"
Because the fact of the matter is that outside of some very endgame buffs, Faith is kind of the new player helping crutch that becomes less and less useful the better you are at the game and the more you know about item placement.
The main appeal of a cleric is that it provides a healing method outside of estus that doesn't cost souls unlike lifegems, but experienced players will know where to go to get more estus shards early or just know that souls are not nearly as valuable as new players think they are, and are happy to spend them on lifegems.
>>135320120
>tfw found Rhea's corpse slouched in the corner of one of the prison archive cells
>knew she would appear at the parish but rested at a bonfire and chilled out in the world for a while only to find a pendant and like 3 humanity at the parish
>killed petrus before I had even told him what happened to Rhea and claimed his Ivory Talisman
Fucking heartbreaking
>>135319954
Scholar. Sorry.
Not necessarily a faith based build either. Idk if int, fai or hex is most fun.
>>135320120
>who was too much of a coward to help her
He wasn't a coward, he just hated her and wanted to see her die.
He even invites you to rape her.
>>135319423
''Different'' I forgot to add the quotes, sorry I'm retarded , different as in his views of the world, rather then something simplistic like BB's way of making you feel uncomfortable, with disturbing and disgusting things that is, after he criticized the work of the other designer.
>>135319376
I'm objectively right.
>>135320380
Melee is the most fun, spell casting in these games usually boils down the backpedaling and throwing orbs of stuff at enemies until they fall over.
INT gives the most spammable spells and is pretty good for overall magical damage
Faith mostly gives utility in forms of healing, its offensive potential is fairly limited these days
Hexes are the most powerful for of damage, but are shorter in range than sorceries and require a specific stat spread to use
>>135320294
The mention of cleric wasn't relating to the play style but just to the fact that I chose it as the starting class.
I have experience in the game. I just have never done a caster. I picked Cleric because it seemed to be the best for any casting build but im guessing hex and fai are the only viable ones.
I wanted to try something new and I don't know what to be doing with any sort of caster, even if it is melee hybrid.
>>135318921
Where's your NG+7 SL1 run :^)?
>>135317791
Why are they getting taller each game???
>>135320570
Miyzaki is full of shit.
People should stop worshipping him and realize the reason these games are good is because there's a whole team of talented people working with him.
Don't turn Miyzaki into another Kojima.
>>135320256
People think it doesn't take skill to use magic in these games which is far from the truth
>>135320090
I just want to find something that I can have fun using in the meantime, all the weapons in this game just feel empty and lifeless
>>135320678
Min/maxing doesn't matter unless you plan to stick to a specific SL. Starting class isn't as important if you're just going to keep leveling.
If you're a melee hybrid, think about if you want to buff your weapon primarily and have a few utility spells, or if you want to use both magic and melee frequently. If you just plan to use some magic to buff yourself you only need the bare minimum stats for casting it, and can focus more on Str/Dex.
I hope the Japanese version of Souls 3 still has english voice overs. Not being able to read moon is going to make playing through the Japanese version interesting.
>>135320678
Caster builds are just flat out boring if you have already done melee playthroughs since it's basically just a crutch for when you need extra damage from buffs or just too scared to get close to an enemy to attack them, which will just feel flat out cheap after a while, but that's just my opinion and I did my spells only playthrough after like 10 normal ones
>>135320814
Hello Emarrel.
Challenge runs like that don't require skill, only patience.
>>135321230
>I hope the Japanese version of Souls 3 still has english voice overs
Probably, I'm wondering if the American release is gonna have multi-language like Bloodborne.
>>135320256
>>135320993
Magic in PvP is whatever, I don't feel strongly against anything but the cancer that was "let me cast all my 5 buffs plz" that DS2 had for a while.
That said, magic in PvE never keeps me entertained for long, because of how mind-numbingly easy it can make clearing areas. But the same can be said of using a bow/poison arrows, so again, I don't feel too strongly about the subject.
>>135321178
>Empty and lifeless
Welcome to DS2.
Fun weapons I've found
>MLGS
>Santier's Spear
>Disc Chime
>Mace of the Insolent
>Blue Flame
>Axes
>Thrusting swords
>Whips
-Not strictly a weapon-
>BB Hunter Cosplay (Battle/Drake Axe, Llywenenenene armour, Mirrah hat, crossbow of your choice, lots of items use)
In least to most 'lifeless' order.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3HPkXHxS_s
>>135321674
I love every variant of this joke. I'm at soup is a classic of our time.
>Yurt???
Fucking ded.
>>135321280
Yeah, but honestly some spells are fun as fuck. Chucking lightning spears is a lot of fun (if OP pre-nerf), so is Soul Greatsword and shit.
>>135321674
I fucking love pruld
>>135321674
Why is this so well made? Why is this so entertaining?Why do I want to see a series like this for all the characters?
>>135321181
>>135321280
I think i'm going to do something like:
Vig: 25 or 30
End: 15 or 20
Vit: 10
Att: 16 or 20 (3 or 4 slots)
Str: base for weapon
Dex: base for weapons
Adp: whatever i need to get agi to 105
Int: 30+
Fai: 30+
This is as a basis, I don't plan on stopping leveling for pvp so i'm guessing once I hit ng+ things will be higher.
What I would do is have 2-3 fun melee weapons that are dark infused with dark weapon and the other attunement slots would be for hexes. I have no idea which, I don't know them. I can look it up eventually.
Is this a stupid way to go about it?
>>135321230
It does, theres actually no japanese VO at all its english mandatory
>>135321674
Rip off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNcYtcVn-8k
>all that cool armor and weapon exhibition
>witch armor/weapon it's just a raggedy fag dress, pathetic "moveset" and gay ass spells
KILL YOURSELVES SORCERY FAGS
>>135322323
Nah thats fine wayt to approach a spellsword type build but I would recommend getting more Vit since it's tied to your stamina regen speed, and since you will probably want at least 2 weapons on you at all times (a staff/chime + a main weapon) upping it can be a lifesaver because a lot of the fun and interesting weapons are heavy as well as giving you more fashion options,
>>135323031
REMOVE MAGE
>>135323031
>witch armor is literally the one from demon souls but with physics
>catalyst thats purpose is shooting spells, shoots spells
>"kill yourself"
what? was that supposed to be bait? you almost sounded serious until you told us to end our lives
What's the deal with this guy?
>>135323298
>demon souls
It's Beatrice's set from DaS1
>>135323031
>>135323156
DRINK THE POND DRINK THE POND
DRINK THE POND DRINK THE POND
DRINK THE POND DRINK THE POND
>>135322112
He mostly uses the lautrec+solaire+oscar trio but he has done a few with more. I highly recommend watching them all
>>135323026
>memes are ripoffs
>>135323516
Are you blind or retarded?
>>135323031
>will be forced back to spamming soul arrows instead of burning enemies to crisp with flamer or raping them with cosmic tentacle
>>135323496
He is, literally, a retard.
>>135323496
His name is Nico, that would be enough to go hollow.
>>135323496
Nico nico nii~
>>135323556
Majik
so let me get this straight
i can invade with a 0sm max stats character with a dagger that does infinite damage all i want, but i cant give myself a +10 pyro glove without getting banned?
>>135323026
I never watched this
>>135317791
I think I've found a good analogy for the games and the ''moon'' swords
>Large sword of moonlight (DeS) : The first one, has some issues but it's pretty awesome overall
>Moonlight Great Sword (DaS1): The improved one, made some changes to the original, everything feels a lot better about this one
>Bluemoon Greatsword (DaS2): Different, a little generic and has nothing really all that ''special'' about it, but it's still a very nice sword with a great moveset
>Holy Moonlight Sword (BB): The Nicest looking and smoothest one, but if you wanna try it out you have to pay a great price for it.
Could anyone post new link to the Dark souls scholar of the first sin OST, the one in the pastebin isn't working
>>135320256
i just think the magic system is really bad in these games desu. it's not remotely up to the standard and i don't know why anyone would enjoy it
>>135323637
>that Gintama parody
B A S E D
A
S
E
D
>>135323998
>des
>first one
>Want to RP/Cosplay Raime
>cant buff His greatsword halfway through a fight.
>>135320256
i just think the magic system is really bad in these games desu. it's extremely simple and tends to trivialize the game. it's not remotely up to the gameplay standard and i don't know why anyone enjoys it outside of roleplaying
i'd prefer they redesign it from scratch or not waste the effort. at least they're tweaking it in what looks like a positive direction
Do you mean mlgs? Bmgs is a fake
>>135323998
>Large sword of moonlight (DeS) the first one
Kaiokek x 90
>>135324264
I mean about the newest games of course
>>135324797
There better be dual-wield crossbows in 3.
>>135319694
this is going to be so easy.
>>135323637
>Where I come from they used to use umbrellas!
>Target acquired! Load the umbrella!
>Umbrella ready to fire!
>5! 4! 9! 10! 25! FIRE!!
>explosion
Fucken fantastic.
>>135324242
Which one is that?
>>135324274
>needing buffs
>>135323731
>yfw assassin has replaced the mage class and is better in everyway
C U C K E D
>>135325147
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMGNN2XTOCc
![[ThePruld] Im into the abyss-Y3HPkXHxS_s.webm](https://i.imgur.com/mmiNF1F.jpg "[ThePruld] Im into the abyss-Y3HPkXHxS s")
Do we have the dickwraith armor in das3?
>>135323731
I just hope they keep the fun spells like soul greatsword, soul spear barrage, and soul bolt/crystal dragon breath
>>135325470
>>>/b/
>>135325470
Every other level point goes into resistance
>>135325470
Solaire of Asstora faithbuild
>>135325470
greataxe str/faith with cleric armor that patches sells
>>135325370
There's a Dickwraith, so maybe we'll get one.
>>135325470
Full mage, can only use dagger weapons
>>135325470
pike running R1 only
>>135325470
Really? The janitor deletes this guys post but not the console wars bullshit every thread?
>>135325178
Anon, thats why i said i was cosplaying him. I was going to buff the greatsword with fire and ditch the fume straight-sword when my health gets down.
>>135325370
You get the redeye orb from killing one so I would assume the set is in the game.
>>135325470
Uninstall it.
>We don't know if pyromancy sucks or not yet
>>135325770
GET posts are against the rules.
but y tho
>if I kill myself he didn't really win the fight haha!
I'm shit at pvp also, coming back from BB has made this game ridiculously hard to adjust to.
>>135326658
It's going to be a real fly in my ointment if they somehow botch pyromancy.
What region should I join for dark souls 1 pvp on pc?
>>135325770
Isn't it hilarious? That one autist spams threads with 4kings copypasta and "kek pcucks btfo" for hours and nothing gets done about it, but the moment someone asks to roll for a build they jump on that shit. Priorities clearly are in order.
>>135327161
Why do people do this
For what purpose
I've had people kill themselves with the Bewitched Alonne sword after I didn't finish them with a riposte after I parried them. That makes sense to a degree (looked rather stylish too at the time).
But this shit right here is fucking pointless, it's quitting for no reason. You coulda won but by doing this you just look like a stupid cunt.
>>135327267
LAN Event of your area or the bourg
>>135327683
im looking at darkroot garden and oolacile, im on luxembourg rn but nothing is happening
>TFW I'm probably banned for a day
>>135327531
I think they do it to deny you the joyof the fight. I have witnessed this kind of thing where the host would wait until he knew i saw him and then woukd jump off the cliff.
Why these people dont just play offline is beyond me.
>>135325770
>>135327398
Much more likely he deleted the post or globally wiped for breaking the rules elsewhere
fightnight when
>>135328045
>>135327531
>invaded the world of person
>they quit the game and reload to avoid fighting you
>>135328243i will be home in 2 1/2 hours. I might start one then.
>>135326658
>>135327245
It looks powerful and has far better range than in DaS. People reporting on it say that it's very useful.
In dark souls 2, is it more effective to use dual fists with RoBFlynn or with magic+clutch ring?
>>135328429
>People who try to black crystal out
THAT AIN'T HOW IT WORKS HERE SON.
>>135328515
Really good combination.
>>135328515
BattlePiggu/10
>>135328515
proportions make you look like a dwarf
i like it
>>135328515
BROTHER!
>>135328045
>>135327531
yeah I man you've already lost your humanity either way. it's not like I was twinking and being a dick
>>135328429
they get punished for that somehow don't they, tagged as a sinner or made more vulnerable to invasions or something?
>>135328515
>>135328908
I have a feeling that we are the distant relatives.
Is it okay to talk about Salt and Sanctuary here?
I just beat theKraeken Wyrmand have no idea where to go
>>135328972
They get pulled from the invasion and co-op pool if they do it too much iirc
>play the game for the first time
>feel like an idiot and messing everything up
>I lost almost every boss souls and I can't level up that easily
>go to these threads
>I've missed a lot of shit
>I can't fight Nito so I deleted my save and start all over again
>git gud
>since I don't die, I don't pass through the same areas again farming souls
>same level as before
>still feel like I've missed a lot
>>135326658
>>135327245
its automatically less interesting to me now that it actually requires Faith/Intelligence. my favorite part of pyromancy in DaS is being able to level it up without attribute investment. they'll have to make it much more fun and powerful to make it worth taking this time around
Sure hope whoever worked on DS2 network hit detection has lost his job and won't even remotely touch DS3.
>>135329143
No. Go to >>135296174
>>135329215
It's completely reasonable to beat the game at level 1
don't mistake your incompetence for poor balance
>>135329283
You just need more Agility bro
>>135329283
Roll every swing no matter what
Why is every single host in this game a massive estus chugging faggot?
>>135329247
>Summarize Pyromancy in DS2
>You pick up a Faith, Int or Hex build instead
What pisses me off is the fact that we were told in DS1 that pyromancy is brutal basic bitch stuff, rather different to sorcery in that it's the power of the technique and the flame. BUT NAWH GOTTA GET THAT SCALING.
It better hit like a god-damn bus now.
>>135329327
I did go there and the first thing I see is someone jerking off a cat so I think I'll stay here.
>>135329215
Unless you are autstic and backtrack to areas nonstop for chance encounters you will almost certainly miss heaps on any playthrough. You can sleuth out clues for most things but I find there are still lots of things that are extremely easy to miss.
best way to do it is first playthrough blind, look at the item description for everything you ever pickup, especially rings and keys and make note of any place you go with a locked door or something blocking your path. then finish the game and realise how much you missed, look at a guide and go from there.
>>135309556
>>135309547
back from work thanks my niggas
In DS2 is there any way to direct your attacks after rolling! I'm so used to bloodborne that I always attack after rolling when I'm locked on and end up chaining attacks in whatever direction I end up facing.
>>135329552
>Honorfags
I hope we get Alonne's sword in DaS3.
The rest of das2 can stay behind, but I want my sudoku sword.
>>135329760
Yeah but you have to turn before attacking. It's retarded, but hey it's DS2.
>>135329049
>>135328908
>>135328515
quick, post your builds
>>135329760
Delay the attack until the very very end of your roll and aim it with your movement stick.
>>135329283
A shitty connection will always be shit no matter what. Nobody can fix that.
MAKE FAITH GREAT AGAIN
>>135330089
DaS almost never gets to the level of phantom range DS2 has on a good connection.
They fucked it.
>>135330121
>Again
>>135329283
maybe you should stop speed hacking
>>135330217
Oh right, I need to go and beat XCOM2.
>>135330089
My connection quality is good. More than enough to get a stable network hit detection in both DS1 and BB. Hell i've played a year in BB and never fucking saw anything remotely as atrocious as i've seen in just 15 arena battles on DS2 arena i just did.
>>135329934
Not even honorfag,(Not anymore)so much that every single one of my characters has great heal, is just that it's so fucking unfair that there's a trillion fucking healing items and phantoms are stuck with spells like holy shit.
>>135329283
DaS1 network hit detection was worse.
>>135330584
Not even close, lad.
is it wrong to tumblebuff in pvp?
If you saw someone do it would you do something differently like heal in battle?
>>135330610
It really was. Plus, this was further exacerbated by instant backstabs and glitches like dead angling.
>>135330349
Wut?
Is that a jab? I can't tell anymore
>>135330172
hamon stronk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH9cNAOe34M
>>135330649
>If you saw someone do it would you do something differently like heal in battle?
Definitely.
>>135330715
Dead angling was the shit against turtlefags, though.
>>135329283
Do you think it's just DaS2
Like seriously
>>135330715
Dead angling was only a good thing.
In fact most of DaS's glitches ended up being happy accidents when it came to pvp. Without toggle escape for example it would almost be unplayable.
>>135330584
Not even remotely fucking close.
And i'm telling this as a person who jumps between DS1, DS2 and BB.
DS2 is by far the most atrocious fromsoft game in terms of hit detection, even worse than DeS sometimes.
>>135330926
Huh. That looks interesting.
I liked xcom enemy unknown, maybe i should get xcom2
>>135330883
>Making shields and poise irrelevant is a good thing
Sure buddy, real men roll around naked with dex weapons amirite?
>>135330715
>>135330780
W-will there be dead angling in DaS3 doe?
I'd hate to lose my halberd 1hr2 finishing move.
>>135331069
>making shielded circle strafing irrelevant
Fixed that for you. Shielding is still very much relevant.
>>135330819
The difference is, in BB it's one of a hundred battles, usually against some shitty aussie.
I just did 15 DS2 arena battles and all of them were laggy even against people form the same continent.
>>135330960
>And i'm telling this as a person who jumps between DS1, DS2 and BB.
Guess what, same here. Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal.
The worst hit detection in the series easily belongs to Demon's Souls anyway.
>>135330751
>What miracle fags actually get
>Heals
>Magic condom
>Banana flavor buff
>Sacred Oats (3 SLOTS)
Just resign yourself to morale support like heal-slut anon.
>>135331069
In DeS every build rolled like a madman. Even the Str ones using the Greataxe or DBS.
>>135329760
the amount of times I am locking on backing away, then attack and end up doing a 180 to attack the wrong way holy fuck.
I thought it was tough going from das2 to BB, but coming back again after playing BB for the past year or so is rough as fuck. 20 hours in and I'm still hitting triangle to heal, options for the menus and trying to iframe through stuff at the wrong time.
>>135330960
>killing the phantom with a glitch
lmao grow some skill
>>135331214
Every fight I have in BB is this shit here.
>>135330960
>>135331214
>slow walking while listening to Linkin Park on YouTube
Please get a tripcode so we can filter you.
>>135330562
you invade, feel the anger of my sunny D
I summon you, let's go
>>135331214
>>135331454
Also, watch ANY /bbg/ fight club footage. It's all full of phantom range bullshit.
It's disgusting, no game except Demon's Souls is worse about it.
Who /CLUB/ here?
God dammit I want BB to leave, I now feel bad about not playing it
>>135331454
Welcome to bloodborne.
That's my biggest concern with DS3. I'm hoping it doesn't have as many phantom range issues as bloodborne.
>>135331632
>/bbg/ fight club footage
It's full of muriclaps sitting on dialup and fighting against aussies.
They can't maintain a stable connection to people in the same region, not to mention even continental ones.
Not a problem in my case.
>>135331454
I've had maybe one laggy phantom range fight in BB out of hundreds, in that one I got hit by unzip from the very edge of lockon range it was ridiculous.
but then again I'm australia, I'm probably the one lagging and phantom hitting people kek.
>>135331740
DaS3 is out soon and is basically a BB reskin, don't worry.
how do i do jump attacks on das2with kb and mouse?
>>135331632
My biggest issue with BB netcode is how offset the timing for seeing an attack and it registering damage are. I can't go a single fight without at least 1 attack registering damage on me before the other guy even begins the attack animation. That shit is so obnoxiously common.
To be fair, I think most of BB's netcode issues were the fault of sony. In general, the ms delay in Bloodborne is much higher than any pc souls game and I can only blame PS+ for that.
Honesty, that's the biggest reason I'm not going with PS4 for 3. I can't shake the fear that the online will be marred by the limitations of a shitty paid online service and all the countless issue that brings.
>>135331745
You know it will. That's the nature of a FromSoft game.
>>135332042
assuming standard controls,
w+2 on the number row for right hand
w+tab for left hand
w+h for guard break
>>135332042You get a gamepad.
Try W and whatever is the heavy attack? I don't know.
>>135331740
Maybe one day Miyazaki will make a multiplat in the same aesthetics.
>>135332229
It's called DaS3.
>>135331740
Then go out and play it.
>>135330010
>>135330067
OK thanks, will give it a try. I can't remember if DS1 was like that but I don't think it was
>>135331380
I adjusted pretty fast, but I wish I had played this one first. The game feels pretty unpolished, there are some aspects I really like but others I find so frustrating. Especially move sets, I took for granted how fluid and diverse each weapon's was.
>>135332304
>Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne haves the same aesthetics
>If this hasn't been posted yet...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw8FyWvV4vQ
>>135332391
i like how almost every weapons' light attack scrapes the ground like you dont know how to swing properly
>>135332431
>bamco gave him an early copy of the soundtrack just for some free advertising
This is just impressive at this point. Whoever is in charge of the souls 3 ad campaign deserves a big bonus this year, this shit is just brilliant.
>>135332549
That's one, uno, (1) npc.
>>135332536
Your character is a zombie
>>135332549
Could Mozart be still alive?
>>135331972
I know, I'm excited for DS3 but seeing so much BB lately got me annoyed I didn't play it
>>135332229
I hope so, but DeS has been like 7-8 years and nothing so I doubt they'll be ported to PC/Xbox, or even a similar game, all us PC fans are getting is souls 1-3
>>135332305
I'd have to buy it, also aren't the buttons fucked up? I played it at a friends house and like the estus/2hand buttons were switched
Also with the Golem hitbox I had him slam me all the way to where you find the first bolder in sens
Almost thought I lost like 20 humanity because my bloodstain wasn't in the bossfight but I ran down there and my bloodstain was at the bolder place
>>135332673
my character was a zombie in one too, and he knew how to not ruin his sword then
>>135327161
I feel ur pain anon. 90% of the people I invade on ps4 either disconnect when they're about to die or kill themselves immediately. Idk why they dont just play offline.
>>135332779
>medieval-styled dress mixed with medieval-styled gothic plate
>crow-themed helmet
Clearly this is something right out of a romantic-era gothic horror aesthetic.
Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?
>>135333040
Blizzard
>>135333040
>having trouble with darklurker
Nigga git gud
>>135332431
It's the Main Theme, apparently. Pretty good and soothing, might be the best Main Theme in the series.
>>135333014
It's Cainhurst set mixed with a dress.
>>135333040
I don't think I've ever killed Darklurker, I tried my first couple playthroughs and gave up
to lazy to try another one to fight him, he's just annoying
>>135333161
I had no problem with 1, but then he splits into 2 and uses retarded ranged attacks
>>135332536
>like you dont know how to swing properly
Nigger don't even start. Literally the only sensible attack motions in the Souls series are rapier/spear shield pokes and the follow-through on DaS2 two-handed greatswords. Everything else is wildly telegraphed baseball swings as if your character thinks they're using a metal pipe instead of a finely smithed weapon they'd have received training for as a fucking Knight or Warrior. They also stumble from exertion after swinging greatswords that would weigh below 4 kilograms at the extreme upper end, closer to 2.
Souls protagonists use their weapons like the pasty nerds that play the games and have never touched or even seen a real weapon in their life.
>>135333040
Fightwise heis pretty cool.
But yeah he is straight Tyrael looking.
>>135333251
It's the character creation theme. You can hear it in the recent 45 minute footage dumps
>>135333257
>I had no problem with 1, but then he splits into 2 and uses retarded ranged attacks
Thats the entire point of the boss buddy. He has slow and really really really really easy to read attacks and gives you plenty of time to get used to them, then you have to keep a lookout for 2 at once
>>135333040
This has to be the trashiest boss in the series, it even has black nail polish.
>>135333257
you do know hes really weak to fire right?
and if you hit him with forbidden sun/swathe as he splits it does double damage since it hits both right?
>>135333382
well like I said I fought him on early playthroughs when I was still a noob
I could probably kill him now but I can't be asked to do that dumb fucking minigame
>>135333509
read above, I think I did straight meele my first couple runs, still don't even like spells in souls games now but I'll occasionally use them
Help me dsg should I upgrade the dragons tooth or demon great hammer I only have enough twinkling for one
>>135333040
You mean design? No idea, some edgy faggot.
You mean boss fight? Someone who knows what's good, a person with refined taste.
>>135327245
I doubt it. The class starts with a ring that augments pyromancies.
>>135333665
get some from the friendly man at the rodeo and do both
>>135333253
>DaS 3 doesn't gets the full set
It's a shame.
>>135333337
Nevermind, found the actual main theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stWae6r7Blw
I stand by my word, the mix of female and male vocals and the absolutely crazy work with the chords is overwhelmingly satisfying to hear.
>>135333665
Demon's Greathammer is absolute shit
>>135333748
Leggings were fucking ugly.
Will miss armor and gloves.
>>135307498
Rolling, and does force do damage in this game? If not I feel like its kind of pointless to throw it on the cleric to start as. Should have just given the cleric a heal and a weak damaging miracle to put it above the herald.
>>135307498
check my 1
So is Solaire really Gwyn's son? It seems obvious he's the son of the Goddess of Love but was she bangin' Gwyn? Doesn't it make more sense that the Dark Sun was the one who was represented by all the destroyed statues in Anor Londo??
>>135334070
No. Force is exactly the same as every previous game.
The major advantage of the Cleric is starting with the anti-armor pve juggernaut weapon. Herald starts with a fucking spear. What could be less interesting than that?
And...preorder cancelled
>>135334230
pshhh
nothin personnel
>>135334230
>crying about a backstab me: the attack
Any kind anons near 400k sm willing to help me with the rotten? I've always been able to solo him but I'm having some issues today.
PC, 400k sm.
Hey guys.
I'm trying to achieve the Knight's Honor achievement which requires me to get all the rare weapons.
But I have a question.
Can I upgrade the rare weapons I have already found, or must they be kept in their 'mint' condition for the achievement to register?
Thanks.
>>135334230
>implying that's going to hit anyone that's not braindead
>>135333665
Both are bad weapons, but I think Dragon Tooth has better reach.
>>135334407
You can upgrade them.
>>135334230
Why? That move looks fucking awesome
>>135334230
Imagine if this puts your hitbox up there as well. That'd be pretty cool.
>>135334230
What if
What if
What if that's not the weapon art and just the regular 2H jumping attack?
>>135334230
It really does look awful.
Why couldn't they just make it into a normal jump? Why the need to fly for two solid seconds?
>>135334407
You can upgrade them
t. faggot who got the achievement without cheating
Also it doesn't matter because you have to be NG+2 to get all of them so you can get two or 3 of most weapons anyways
>>135334228
Really doesn't bother me much considering you find some different weapons to use pretty much immediately, at least typically.
>>135328515
Hello ENB
>>135334382
where you want my sign at?
>>135334230
LMAO 2KAT!
2KAT
>>135334573
We've already seem 2kat jumping attack in BB and it will most likely return in DS3.
It's not it.
>>135334514
Thanks.
>>135334595
Yeah, but I'm very autistic about my inventory, so I always drop the duplicates of weapons I already have.
>>135334560
>matrix-dodging UGS swings by hovering over them with 2kat jump
>>135334573
>>135334515
>actual weapon art is Aerial Rave
>>135334586
They tried to do "normal movements" with mocap in DS2 and it looked fucking terrible. Im okay with these exaggerated motions.
>>135334673
Near the second bonfire? where Lucafail's is?
I'm gonna summon her cause I want dat armor.
FIGHT CLUB TIME!
CHANNEL 8
Place your red SS up on the sniper hollow concrete part here!
>>135333908
Premonition is the character creation theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIuDuz26tOY
>>135334791
No. If anything, DaS2 animations are one of the best things about that piece of shit game.
>>135334751
I did the same, inventory gets very cluttered very fast anyways though
Friendly reminder you don't need DLC weapons but you need DLC spells/pyro for other achievments
>>135334910
Are you serious?
Are they keeping lances in dark souls 3?
Please tell me there's hope.
>>135334910
It is true. Zelda syndrome is real.
>>135334945
Yeah, I know. Thanks.
>>135335016
greatlance is confirmed
>>135335016
Anon...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxJ2xKBGrU4
everything i've seen about DaS3 has reinforced my decision of my first character being Dex based but HOLY FUCK that Drang Hammer moveset
my fucking DICK
>>135334981
Are you?
The animations for DS2 were all good apart from the non mo capped ones, anyone claiming otherwise is too high on memes to bear listening to.
>>135335016
Yes and they look extremely overpowered.
>>135335016
Yes, there's a greatlance in the latest video. Get ready for Maldron revengeance.
>>135334749
is that a ras 'al ghul cosplay or something
>>135334981
Yes.
>>135335057
What is the Zelda syndrome?
>>135334673
I'm at 394k. Just looking in the room where the bonfire is before the Rotten. Let me know if we need to use god ring or anything.
>>135335103
Heide lance, not great lance.
>>135335116
>>135335103
Thanks alot bois.
Also side note, you think my gtx 760s good enough to run souls 3? I think Itl be fine.
>>135334910
They are fucking horrible.
I hate to agree with twitchfaggots but he's absolutely right here and nothing changed in release version.
https://youtu.be/pQ6SqmwXx2o?t=1315
>>135335263
were you the powerstance caestus user that just summoned me?
>>135334230
le haha
>People actually liked lances
Literally the laziest weapon ever in the series
>>135335116
>witch set on a male character
Why would they do this.
>>135335271
Or perhaps..
>>135335271
It's the Heide Greatlance, which is different from the Heide Lance
In DaS3, it's referred to simply as the "Greatlance"
You might be confusing it with Grand Lance
...what?..
>>135333908
I just noticed, why doesn't Lothric look elevated in the DaS3 picture compared to ingame?
>>135335521
It's probaly Faron's mausoleum
>>135335406
No. I am cleric chest with Estoc.
>>135334910
lmfao
>>135335519
you can use it as a shortcut to the knight with the tower shield
>>135335521
That's not Lothric in the background, it's just some nondescript ruins made deliberately to look like Anor Londo
>>135334230
but you're lying
>>135335384
Why didn't we listen?
>>135334905
summon me fampire, I want to Lautrec cosplay
>>135335256
Zelda Syndrome is whenever a sequel comes out, people start to praise the previous game that was heavily bashed.
>>135335497
>You might be confusing it with Grand Lance
Yeah that's what I did.
>>135335653
I mean the dragon butt. It shouldn't be there.
A funny bug, I guess, but that thing is breathing and all, but I can't damage it.
>>135335709
It's fucking scary how right he was about everything.
I usually consider him to be a shitty player and a whiny uploader but this one video just nailed a whole shitton of issues that never were fixed.
>>135335917
>implying it's a bug
It's been there since the console release and it's not a bug.
>>135335384
So his complaint boils down to the character having momentum?
That actually explains so many things about retards that went from 1 to 2 and then bitched about the animations and movement, the very idea of having to commit to actions and there being weight behind your character and their movement.
Aaaand then there is the other group of people who bitch about the exact opposite problem of everything being "floaty"
So I'll just do the logical thing and assume that both sides are full of shit and retarded old dogs that just flat out hate everything different because learning new things is hard
>>135335917
The dragon butt is because the dragon was undead/hallowed
it crawled toward you because the other half is over there
If you stimulate the half it stands up and lets you use the shortcut
>>135335636
you do know that you have to kill him again since lucatiel died right?
>>135334910
>Someone out there actually thinks that weightless, choppy and dumb looking animations are better than anything.
>>135336050
Look at the actual animations, dude. It's right there, it's not a matter of opinion.
Holy fuck you can't be this retarded.
>>135333737
>twinkling for dragontooth
He mean ds2
>>135335845
If that was the case now we should praise Dark Souls 2 and hate Bloodborne.
>>135331214
>Actually defending BB's pvp
>>135336119
What's with the shitty resolution, kid?
>>135335917
The undead dragon laying there is in one piece until you wake it up. The top half crawls after you while the lower half separates and is left behind. Due to a bug, a jumping attack to the bottom half causes it to load the animationset for the Izalith dragonbutts, but since it has no ai it doesn't attack and just shifts to a neutral stance.
Fromsoft probably left it in for debugging purposes since it essentially allows you to skip half of the painted world, and just never thought to fix it.
>>135336050
Turn the video on 21:55 and say everything concerning animation boils to the fucking momentum.
If anything DS2 character feels fucking weightless.
So can we all agree that Dark Souls 2 is better than 3? Looks like absolute trash tbqh farram.
>>135336229
It happened. But Bloodborne isn't a sequel to anything, more so now that Dark Souls 3 is coming out.
>>135336241
well excuse the fuck out of me for playing in a window
>preordering a digital game
>>135336252
I always thought it was an intentional trick, I discovered it on my first playthrough on accident by trying to kill the ass.
>>135336314
Halberds in 3 don't have stumble or sweetspot, making it the best game in the series for me already.
are fist weapons viable in das 2? str build or no?
>From Soft PSVR game
What will it be? Im betting on AC
>>135336314
I like how you project your own opinion as fact.
You must be a very insecure person.
>>135336236
I played a couple of FCs with bbg and shit's fun as fuck.
>>135333040
So who exactly was this dude anyway? What is the lore behind him and why he doesn't seem to be a creature of the dark despite being elbow deep in the abyss's asshole. Is he another artorias figure?
>>135336463
Armored Core games have always been 3rd person, but I would actually cum buckets at a VR one.
The UI in V/VD was absolutely orgasmworthy. The gameplay didn't hold up but the sim elements of the game were perfect. Immersive as fuck.
>like murdering the shit out sinners
>build isn't actually ever going to get the Faith for the use of Darkmoon Blade
I can't help but feel like I'm making a mistake here, even if I do enjoy being a knife wielding thief
>>135336180
I am looking at them, and I can see the "issue", stand up from your fat ass and try turning around suddenly a bunch, then do it after running in one direction.
An interesting thing happens, you either have to commit to fully stopping your own momentum or you end up skidding along and hopping awkwardly, the animators for DS2 went for the former approach and it works just fine, this creates an issue of retards from DS1 going "but but but but but I could stop sprinting in DS1 and turn around with no consequences the combat is too *random nonsense words that don't even mean what the idiots are trying to convey*"
>>135336278
You mean the part where he bitches about the non motion capped animations looking bad?
Glad we agree then, the mo capped animations are great and the non mo capped ones are terrible
>>135336601
maybe you should fuck off back there then, you shit eating retard. Stop defending that shit game on our general.
>>135336627
>ds2
>asking about lore
Thinking about it, we've had to fight Havel in DS1, and found his gear in DS2.
Perhaps we can finally at last be able to chat with Havel in DS3 so we can finally know what the guy was like, and finally also have more to him than "the guy who's armor every tryhard in existence uses"?
>>135335384
He's not a twitchfag though
>>135336627
The lore behind him is very flimsy.
The same can be said about anything Abyss-related, which is stupid, since it had an entire covenant based around it.
>>135336627
There's no lore, the point of the covenant is to explore the abyss, Darklurker is just a denizen of the Dark.
So I just extracted pvp watchdog to data and now dark souls crashes when I start it up, I also have dsfix. Am I just retarded?
>>135336278
Annnd then he goes on to cherry pick the shit animations of 2 and compare them to the good ones of 1 and pretend the reverse isn't true for literally every non special weapon in the game.
I stand by what I said, its a retard being a retard bitching for the sake of bitching who doesn't know the first thing about anything, but hey he is talking shit about DS2 so clearly he is a prophet and a genius.
>>135336314
Epic.
>>135335826
>>135334905
Had to switch characters due to taurus being killed on the previous one, but still waiting on signs!
SL 120
>>135336753
Do you think Elliot played Dark Souls?
>>135336729
whatever you edgy faggot, go take your meds.
>>135336925
>Am I just retarded?
You're playing Dark Souls: Hackers Edition, so yes, you're retarded by default.
>>135336627
It's the dark within you.
The Chasms are long empty. There's no real abyss left in there. Everything you face comes from you, projected into that space so you can confront the dark within yourself and conquer it. That's why each step in the covenant gives you a progressively higher tier of "convert souls into dark and fire it" spells. The Chasms are just the medium for your own dark to manifest. In a sense, the "abyss" you explore is your own.
>>135336729
>our general
Man, you sound like a faggot.
>>135336463
It's going to be King's Field you faggots.
>>135337028
MPChannel 8
I can be summoned by you and my sign is on the damned sniper tower
>>135336958
I thought DS2 had better animations?
>>135336707
>>135336958
The delusion is real. And mocapped.
>>135337037
I'm sure he played Final Fantasy 7.
>>135337037
Yes, I think it was his favorite game.
>>135337047
Thanks for kindling my channel, I'll be sure to mention you in my newest lore video
t.Vaati Vidya
>>135337037
Seems more like a GTA guy to me
>>135336958
>cherry pick
he directly compares the animations from the very same actions
there's no ds2 animation that looks better than ds1 one
>DS2 thrusting swords were better animated than the ones in DaS
t. /vg/
>>135337226
The mo capped ones are better, the non mo capped ones are bad that was my original point and I'm glad it only took you 4 kneejerk reactions and posting irrelevant videos to come to this realization.
>>135337353
Try every normal attack for every weapon from the rapiers to swords to lances, all the DS2 ones shit all over the DS1 ones, that's not to even mention backstabs
>>135337226
It doesnt.
>>135336707
>m-muh realism
Congrats, your realism turned ds2 into slow as shit mess of a game.
Unfortunately in DS3 we're back to DS1 animations, speed and responsiveness. But hey, nothing stops you from staying in your dead shit game right?
Just popping in to say that Dark Souls 2 is the Magnum opus of the series, and 3 looks like fan pandering, recycled, washed up bullshit that has nothing but reused assets because M-MUH NOSTALGIA, MUH ONION BRO, MUH PRAISE THE SUN
Miyazaki is a cuckold fucking hack, get over it.
>>135337386
>DS2 thrusting sword sound effect
I just sort of want to rape her while the three hags watch and can't do shit about it.
>>135337501
I like this guy, he makes people look stupid very effectively when he's correct about something and they are not.
>>135336278
From the video
>"How heavy and weighty the character feels"
>>135337538
This.....Simply....This.
>>135337501
>every normal attack for every weapon
ds1 rapiers: a realistic thrusting motion that has momentum and weight
ds2 rapiers: nonsensical thrust that lacks both of them and feels like it's done by a machine and not human being
your point?
>>135337028
did I disconnect or are you just standing still
>>135335384
>praising the magnet enemies
>>135337585
What happens if you start murdering people
Will they get up and tell you to fuck off or just let you murder everybody
>>135337538
More like Miyacucki haha LMAOing at ur life you fucking chink failure
So, we thinking fist weapons are gonna actually useful in DS3 or are they gonna remain in meme-tier?I wouldn't mind another bone fist provided it could fucking hit something AND do damage.
Riveting FC.
>>135337615
Where?
>>135336601
/bbg/ FCs are the only way I can enjoy BB's pvp, and it's mainly because people are more interested in having fun than just winning hard.
Real pvp devolves really hard into dash attack spam followed by backpedaling dashspam and an attempt to vial. The overwhelming majority of fights outside of our fcs end with the winner parrying a vial and until you successfully parry that vial the fight just keeps going because both sides just keep popping vials.
Even in fcs things can tend to get repetitive pretty quickly. BB's pvp can be really simple because the sheer power of the mobility options limit the number of useful attacks. It's essentially just a simple footsies and timing match with latency serving as the x-factor. It's not terrible, but it's like the jump from AC4 to AC4A.
>>135337831
>meme-tier
>>>/v/
>>135337749
Anything is better than enemies that literally do nothing as you circle around them and BS them.
There wasn't a single enemy in DaS that was intimidating because every enemy that could be backstabbed was worthless. I'm not saying DaS2 did it right either, but they at least tried something. 3 seems to have it right.
>>135337831
>tfw finally Joey JoJo Whacky Build
>>135337928
DA WORLDO
>>135337708
>ds1 rapiers: a realistic thrusting motion that has momentum and weight
See this is what I'm talking about, you idiots bitch about the same thing from 2 exact opposite angles.
Also why the fuck would anything as light as a goddamn rapier have "weight" in the first place.
AND have you even looked at the rapier stabs, the ones in DaS 1 are light jabs, the ones in DaS 2 are full body thrusts.
I will NEVER be able to understand this mythical DaS 1 """""""""Weight""""""", is it like the force? Or maybe its actual magic? Or is it just bullshit people pull out when they have nothing of value to say about anything.
Seriously go look at the animations for rapier stabs, the DaS 1 stabs are light jabs, the DaS 2 ones are full on thrusts if anything the argument you should be making is "DaS 2 rapier animations are stupid because thats now how you use a rapier" not some utter nonsense about the ones in 1 having more """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Weight"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>Going from DeS to DS2
>Going from BB to DS2
>Going from DS1 to DS2
>>135337925
>There wasn't a single enemy in DaS that was intimidating
giant mace knights and black knights are more intimidating alone than any ds2 gank formed by 20 trash mobs
>>135337831
Their damage was extremely low in the network test but they attacked really fast, much faster even than 2's double-fisty stuff.
They'll definitely be solid for pve, but pvp will depend really heavily on how long they can stunlock for. If they can only chain a pair of L1s together for a proper stunlock, their damage will likely be too low to make up for their negative reach
>>135337928
>Not going full Senator Armstrong
Estus flasks, son.
What's one thing you'd like to see in DS3?
Doesn't have to be the exact weapon/armor piece by name, but looks similar or has a similar moveset
I want a Fume Ultra Greatsword weapon, mainly for the moveset
>>135337831
better than any other souls game so far
though that doesn't say much
>>135338091
>black knights
Nope, we both know you're wrong, Black Knights are intimidating only one time, then you realize they can be backstabbed and the only purpose they serve is to be a free piece of titanite. They're fucking jokes.
>>135338043
>Also why the fuck would anything as light as a goddamn rapier have "weight" in the first place.
try to do a strong thrusting motion with a simple stick and look how it will look like
spoiler:it won't look like a shitty ds2 animation
>>135338227
dragon bone smasher
meat cleaver
des great axe
>>135338227
DeS claymore.
>>135338227
>What's one thing you'd like to see in DS3?
I want my Golem axe (with better stats pls) and my Cript blacksword back
Abyss magicks huh
Silver Pendant time assholes
Why did everyone started calling renowned game directors hacks since last year? Why is /lit/ leaking on every other board?
I want the iconoclastic phase of video games to end already.
>>135337925
>There wasn't a single enemy in DaS that was intimidating
For starters
>>135338295
Nigga
>if anything the argument you should be making is "DaS 2 rapier animations are stupid because thats now how you use a rapier" not some utter nonsense about the ones in 1 having more """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Weight"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Seriously if you want to bitch about animation realism in the series then go right ahead but leave nonsense nothing words like weight out of it you goddamn retard.
>>135338227
Just my trusty zwei, but I have no doubts that it will be in the game.
>>135338227
>that slow, shitty UGS with generic gimmick
>in a game where curved greatswords and greataxes have almost longsword-tier speed
Big turn out so far!
>>135338116
As someone who missed the details on the network test, I'm assuming this is just the standard no weapon in hand punch right? Assuming we can probably find another Vanquishers Seal (Please big M, bring it back but less bullshit to get.) or just pop on Caestus it wouldn't be so bad?
>>135338394
Actually, the Golem Axe with actual scaling, as well as the DaS3 moveset could be a really viable weapon.
>>135338461
Dies in one hit from any respectable weapon's jump attack. Can be trivialized by circle strafing or just rolling. Only shield users have trouble with these.
>>135306613
27*
>>135338426
It's leaked into a number of boards. It's just shit that newfriends and trendy oldfags cling to, like cuck.
>>135338472
>bitch about animation realism
i'm bitching about ds2 animations being simply ugly as shit
being unrealistic is just a cherry on top
>>135338227
bone fist
PLEASE
I don't understand why people are saying pyromancy looks awful in the footage we've seen so far. Pyromancers are chunking the demo bosses for almost three times as much health as their shitty axes. Are people mad because they were hoping it would be as broken as DaS1? DaS2 pyromancy for the most part was awful for damage excluding a few broken spells and the scaling was hilariously bad but with the wide range of pyromancies you could dance around players in PvP with a little strategy.
>>135338316
DBS would be nice
>>135338368
I don't think I used it that much, is the moveset really better than 1/2's?
>>135338394
Golem axe was fun but yeah those fucking stats sucked
Purple Popsicle sword was fun, the greataxe moveset really messed me up at first, it's a giant sword but the swing feels weird
>>135338494
I'm sure it will, definitely going STR weapon first playthrough so I'll probably pick one up
>>135338516
Wait a second, I'm seeing a pattern here. It seems like in DaS3, bigger weapons have a medium speed first R1, but a lightning fast follow up, we've seen this with UGS, that curved GS, and the great machete. It seems like there's an emphasis on guaranteed two hit combos for heavy weapons.
>>135338426
Stop creating false idols and you'll stop provoking iconoclasts. You pretend like negativity isn't a response the blatantly dishonest exultation rampant in this marketing-dominated subculture. Stop being cancer and you'll stop creating a contrary cancer.
>>135338394
>>135338571
>golem axe with machete-like vertical swings in 2h mode and axe motions in 1h
>with fast torrent of wind projectiles on r2
>>135338426
MGSV not living up to the monumental hype was probably the starting point, since Kojima is probably vidya's most well-known auteur.
>>135335384
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UWySVONjRY
>>135338704
No you are explicitly bitching about animation realism.
>>135338295
>try to do a strong thrusting motion with a simple stick and look how it will look like
>spoiler: it won't look like a shitty ds2 animation
See you even made a comparison to real life to get your point across better.
Now since you literally don't even know what you are talking about I'll just ignore the rest of whatever you want to say, I'm sure it will be equally as kneejerk and retarded nonsense as the shit you have said so far.
>the animations are not realistic look at this example
>NO IM NOT TALKING ABOUT REALISM
Face it nigga you don't even know what you are trying to say at this point.
>>135338554
I was talking about the cestus but I meant the recent demo, not the network test
2H just pulls out a second one and switches to a DaS2-style powerstance where the L1s are a spammable flurry of chain-punches. It was really fast but the damage was blatantly lacking compared to real weapons. We'll have to see when the full game is out if they can hold up.
>>135338864
Even the first great machete R1 has ridiculous speed. If it has hyperarmor on top of it it's going to be insane.
>>135334230
>that little golden streak that follows the jump
it's the little things.
>>135338227
Crypt Blacksword
All this talk of DaS2's ugly animations aide, I loved the way the attacks on that weapon looked and the moveset was fucking ideal for an impractically huge strength weapon.
>>135339049
>it was really lacking damage compared to "real" weapons
Someone post the webm where caesti absolutely wreck 2 hollows in 3 hits
>>135338426
Because they are falling from his grace.
Gaben did, Kojima did, Miyamoto did, now Miyazaki.
It's the cycle
>>135331214
based keanu
>>135339109
It would actually be an interesting paradigm if they made it so that some strength weapons were fast with no hyperarmor, and others the more traditionally slow speed but with hyperarmor.
I expect the Machete's weakness will be its lack of horizontal swipes and limited free-aiming alongside a shitty weapon art. Proper greataxes will probably be slower, but with a more useful and versatile art
>>135339023
I'M TOO HIGHSPEED FOR THIS SHIT
>>135339160
DS2 had great PvP, a little silly at some times but a lot better than 1 in many aspects
Sure it was bad at first but it's not as bad as getting killed in like 3 hits from an estoc turtle
new thread when
>>135339463
>getting killed in like 3 hits from an estoc turtle
that IS ds2 pvp
>>135339405
>limited free-aiming
Doubt it.
So far everything could be free-aimed without any shitty DS2 restrictions.
>>135339258
I want to point out that those enemies, alongside everything else in that build, had their difficulty greatly reduced. The axe could 1-shot those hollows and most would other weapons leave them only at a sliver of hp after a single attack, overkilling heavily on the second.
Relative to the damage that everything was doing in the demo, the cestus was underperforming. That said, it was an alpha build and an unupgraded weapon so it's hardly indicative of its actual performance.
>>135339049
FUCK.
>>135310905
Do coins even matter at all in this game?
They did literally absolutely nothing in dark souls 2. 1% boosted item discovery basically gave you no bonus at all.
>>135338953
>Weapon arts are based on the special attack
>>135339463
>getting killed in like 3 hits from an estoc turtle
Hello.
>>135339754
The Great Shill vaati showed that he used the coins in his demo gameplay and obtained most of the Lothric set easily with them. They seem to make things quite easy to get.
>>135339796
>both l2 and r2 are special
>>135339754
Did they only give 1%?
IIRC, they were bugged or something and caused your item find to overflow or someshit.
>tfw blacklisted from the fight club
I just wanted to poke a bit of fun before getting on a real character lads im sorry.
>that chest you have to fall off the spiraling staircase from
>that fucking invisible path down crystal caves
Literally who the hell thought this shit was acceptable?
>>135339315
Gaben was never regarded as a game developer, Miyamoto is just old, Kojima is still Kojima.
They didnt "fall from their grace", neither will Miyazaki. I guess this is just a young people thing. I dont mean any offense, but I guess older people know how to admire best since they know how is life and don't expect perfection of everything.
>>135339557
I don't see Estoc in PvP that much, I stay at a lower SM, like 150SL tier because it's got way less super autists and allows me to use fun weapons without having to worry about metafags
>>135340323
Fightclub is big swords with high damage general fight now
>>135340423
>I stay at a lower SM, like 150SL tier
dohoho
turtles are actually at their strongest in sl150 range
new thread when
>>135340392
I hope that there's more invisible floors in DS3.
Just strewn around the entire game. Would be a good way to screw with people with the orange soapstone.
>>135340687
this desu famicoms
>>135340672
I don't see them still, huh
>>135340392
literally git gud
>>135340672
Every time I've ever gone against an estoc turtle I've had 10 minute ties.
It's pretty dull.
Luci must be asleep or he would have taken the borne out of the name by now.
>>135340816
Estoc turtling is so boring that none short the mentally ill can actually play them seriously for more than a few hours. Most of the genuinely autistic just repeat PvE challenge runs forever and ever so you rarely come across anybody seriously using an estoc turtle build. Anybody that ever thought to try one did so and lost interest in 1 sitting, deleted the build and never looked back.
QUESTION
As someone who is remainly relatively spoiler free without having watched boss fights, or actual gameplay footage, would watching that IGN footage that showcases all that stuff spoil me?
Does it just show off armour/weapons? Or will I get spoiled?
>tfw want to play more but don't want to get burned out on souls games coming 3 but nothing else right now really interests me
MAKE A NEW THREAD ALREADY
>>135341186
>remainly
th-thanks
>>135341186
>would watching that IGN footage that showcases all that stuff spoil me?
I watched those videos, it's the first 5 bosses and exploring the first levels. There's nothing important there.
>>135341251
I just played through everyone of them including Demon's and BB a second time and I'm not feeling even a little bit burnt out. I want 3 more than anything.
>>135340672
How exactly is this unbalanced? I mean I never ever see turtlers and the ones I do are usually hackers
>>135341186
It only shows armor, weapons and the first boss.
>>135338047
I know it feels fucking weird. Something about the models or the engine just feel like a dark souls imitation.
>>135341313
Why don't you do it you stupid fucking frogposter.
Lets go people! lautrec needs an opponent
Channel 8!
I'm not going to do it nigger
I know as soon as I make the thread 2 other people will
>>135340862
That's the point. I'm just relaxing by listening a good music. I literally press like 2-3 buttons while being half asleep and punishing guard break attempts or retards trying to spam shield breaking attacks. Meanwhile they run around trying to heal or bait me while obviously being asspained as fuck. At some point they usually break and either try to prolong the match to the tie by running on another side of arena or just use a separation crystal to not waste more time. That's literally an emotional vampirism if i ever saw it as i don't care whether or not i win or lose.
>>135341186
First boss is a giant knight with a halberd
Second boss is a big ice dog knight
Kaathe is mentioned by name
Onionbro returnsfuck you
>>135341613
HISSSSSSSSSS
>>135341665
Thanks for the fight club anon it was fun. I was the wogspammer that lost every fight.
>>135341665
is my tumblebuff stone sword still welcome
>>135341473
Have you fought someone using that build?
>Fast, safe attacks
>Can't be BSed
>likely won't let you parry them because they only attack when you do
>Likely smart enough to not get shield broken, would probably stab you if you tried
>Even if you do hit him he has a ton of HP
>Stone ring means you're getting staggered out of all your attacks no matter what
>Bow for forcing you to not run away and putting on pressure
It's a nigh undefeatable build if the person using it knows what they're doing. It's a complete counter to anyone using slow weapons, and is still tough to beat even if you too are using an estoc or something.
>>135341697
If you don't care why do it? Just so you piss people off?
>>135341708
And you think this gives you power over me?
>>135342104
That's a pretty big mask
Was taking it off part of your plan?
>>135342161
migr8
>>135342104
He thought it would be extremely painful if you read those spoilers.
>>135341885
Get a shotel, darkdrift or another estoc, he can't parry for shit with his fists so just spam that shit, done, it's not that hard
>host isn't summoning me via my red SS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>135342319
Shield pricing attacks do fuck-all damage through a 100% physical defense shield and are slow as fuck. You can trade with them with shieldpokes and win the trade decisively. You can react and just roll to avoid them since they're so slow and obvious. If you call them out, you can interrupt them with an estoc R1 because it's so much faster.
Shield-pierces being complete and utter shit in this game are part of the reason why estoc turtling works so well. The estoc is a natural counter to every shield counter.
>Passive shithead
>Hornet ring
>Only backstabs
Literally kill yourself you fucking neckbeard
>>135341827
i guess...
>>135342557
A shield poke isn't as fast as an estoc's R2 or shotel's R2, the dark drift is a little slower but I'd say it wins against it too, if you hit first he won't be able to trade either, besides the fact that you can sight parry him, I honestly don't think this is hard to counter at all, there's no uncounterable build in DaS 2 either.
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>>135341783
My pleasure anon, i'm enjoying the drinking beers and watching you all fight!
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>>135338571
>Dies in one hit from any respectable weapon's jump attack. Can be trivialized by circle strafing or just rolling. Only shield users have trouble with these.
played DaS1 first time a month ago, used greatshield and zweihander, these guys did not leave an impression
come the think of it, after switched to this setup after anor londo, the game became easy mode
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>>135345161
The game in general got very easy after Anor Londo. It felt very rushed and was a major disappointment.
>>135343298
it been up for a while, no body linked it.
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>>135346423
>major
people use this word too often
>>135346547
Would you prefer lieutenant?
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