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Nyah edition

BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS, READ THE OP.

PROTIP: The google docs have multiple tabs.

>EARLY-GAME AND GENERAL INFO
>Xenoblade X All Purpose 'Everything' Google Doc - for H2H, Affinities, Tyrants, Collectopedia, Etc:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1g0YR4M8RAHiRhCbAvV4tjXXHLEhRMrARzZMYAUGmyZ4/htmlview?sle=true#
>Answers to Commonly Asked Questions:
http://pastebin.com/HCExJDEA
>100% NLA Info and some Crafting Recipes:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EAXkUc8YcpjorX6jPyP1dPLG8uOTn1vuSPPGM1AsxaQ/edit#gid=1691603217


>MID-GAME
>Probe Placement Guide For Getting 100K+ Miranium Storage and Credits Every Tick:
http://imgur.com/a/ids81
>Steam group for Squad Missions:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/xbcxg
>Squad Missions and Secret Missions Guide w/ mats (WIP):
http://pastebin.com/9ssm2CnR
>Tyrant Locations:
http://imgur.com/a/p2Zrb
>Region Maps w/ all Sightseeing Locations + Location of Collectables
http://imgur.com/a/hdxiA
>Damage Formulas, Battle Traits for Ground and Skell Gear, and Appendage Hardness
>NEW: Also Ultra Infinite Drop Chart
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O9TJtB8ljXSd2j_F9iX2ltFSTgJnuqD3w9J8salKH-M/edit#gid=911942219


>LATE-GAME OPTIMIZATION
>Lvl 60 Skell Frame & Super Weapon Materials, Storage/Dupe/Boost Probe Locations
http://pastebin.com/drfLr3qw
>Augment search
http://birdonwheels5.no-ip.org/xenoblade/augment_search.php
>Superweapon guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10KfkPJn5JiBfFTXXFj3BfVMKjzfe3y1gs88ctFMgviA/edit
>Superweapon blueprint locations
http://pastebin.com/vfzFwRTq
>Blood Lobster Locations
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kU7nCw-ZWEuGDq9lPZEYCLm2F4UjKx8aRNFIlbbf3-k/pub
>Xenoblade Potential Calculator:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Kd0Iv8_62U5ArlZp0m1CzYUNAOxKojwaTr8VS9Yzqig/edit?usp=sharing
>Skell Weapon Drop Chart
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17rguweuUX8hL9KseacmihTnsYeS01EYSo2JrFTDR09k/edit#gid=0

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I am totally not playing Fire Emblem right now
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Benis Yggy come back
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>>133724554
That's why I haven't finished taking these Chapter 12 pictures. I told myself I wouldn't get distracted by Fates yet, but here I am, stuck on Nohr Chapter 10 because Mozu and Nyx can't take a hit without disintegrating.
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>>133724554
Its not even out in EU yet. Though I wasn't going to get it anyway because they censored it too hard for my liking and I just can't support it.
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>DamageFloor's daily morning update on the collage isn't here

I-I hope they're doing okay!
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>>133724915
What mode are you on? Park Nyx at the magic ballista and send 3 teams out , slowly push them back till the main road where all the paths align and try to keep your hold there. Mozu can go man the arrow ballista or something.
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>>133725908
He's dead, Jim.
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>>133725096
I played the original Japanese version and honestly, the petting minigame was really tedious and it took forever sometimes to get the heart to appear.

In terms of dialogues and support conversations it was like Xenoblade X for me. Nothing drastic that affected my experience when I was playing the NA version. People are honestly overblowing it.
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>>133726331
Felicia
Dwyer
Effie
all 3 are retarded with English voices, not even overreacting/being mean, they legitimately sound slow.

Camilla sounds like a grandma

The voices are fairly flat, the voice direction is legitimately bad, which was odd, considering Awakening was pretty good.

A lot of the supports have been changed drastically, removing the original meaning/interactions. Some characters have all their supports changed to revolve around single fixations (Effie with STR, one kid with Pickles), and other deplorable shit. Saizou and Beluka's C Support has been changed to ... ... ... ... from what it was in Nip ver, while their B/A supports haven't changed. This is really weird, considering the B and A support rely on things established in C. Plenty of shit like that where the tone/context of supports/character interactions changes drastically in a way that assassinates the established character.
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Don't make this feg 2.0, discuss that elsewhere.
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>>133726230
Hard. I had Nyx on the Fire Orb, Niles on the middle ballista, and Mozu on the right one. Everything went fine until near the end when there's too many for me to kill, and either Mozu or Nyx get rekt by somebody making it through.

Anyway, I just beat the mission. I went with Mozu to defend her, and pulled Camilla back to defend Nyx, and it went much better. I had to give up one of the houses to do it, though.
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>>133727108
Better to just let the thread die
Wait a minute
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>>133726857
the voice direction is better in awakening because it was done by 8-4 who also did Xenoblade X's localization.
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>>133727864
8-4 didn't do XCX's localization.

They "helped" just like Fates. Treehouse did XCX
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>>133724816
What is it with so many Buidhe in swimwear?
How'd her muzzle look like?
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>>133726230
>Boze on honoraburu armor
He doesn't deserve it, bannibae.
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Well I finished Fates on Lunatic so now its back to XCX for me.
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>>133728330
Yggy might be at it, too.

When you "beat Fates" is it all three games? How long is that?
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>>133726857
Since you seem to be able to understand Japanese so well, why even care about the translated version in the first place?
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>>133728680
>Why want something in your native tongue over something in a non-native tongue
Preference?

The goal of a translation/localization should be to keep everything as close to the original as possible, changing things where language conflicts exist/prevent a proper translation. Localization should be modifying things that don't make sense in the target tongue, such as idioms or sayings that, if directly translated, wouldn't make any sense. It doesn't mean you should change things to fit your political beliefs/societal views, or the like; keep that shit away from your job.
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>>133728590
Finished Conquest on Lunatic, my bad. I played Birthright on Lunatic but it got so bland so fast, that I never bothered to finish it.

Any on topic, gamepad map completion doesn't necessarily = finding all the tyrants, correct?
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>>133729436
Nope. A hex has a requirement for completion, be it loot or tyrant, but there may and usually will be many other loots or tyrants.
Take Gradivus, Nardacyon or Pharsis, they don't complete their hex.
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>>133729671
Is there any difference between killing tyrants after accepting from the mission board vs killing it without accepting from mission board?
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Why does XCX, being 5 times bigger than XC have only 45 Tyrants? Is this list composite?

XC had 157 Unique Monsters.
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>>133730148
woops my bad I only saw Primordia's count
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>>133730001
You get a tanktop/swimsuit from the mission.
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Update! Tamara complete! Sorry for the late update, life got me a bit. But onto the next!

14/53
And just a heads up for everyone.
I will be absent tomorrow because I have jury duty. I apologize if it brings any inconveniences to any of you.

>>133726242
Not dead yet.
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>>133730628
Do treasure sensors affect Tyrant Monster drops?
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>>133730756
>Jury duty
holy shit, I'm jealous.
One day I'll get to pass judgment in the court of law

And once again, very nice! Sword is well done.
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>>133730628
>tfw the best tanktops are camo-only
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>>133730756
>jury duty
A thing I will never experience, I wish you good luck
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>>133731236
>One day I'll get to pass judgment in the court of law
In my experience, jury duty just means sitting around until they tell you the case isn't actually going to court. I've been a few times, and I still haven't gotten to pass judgement on anybody.
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>>133730756
Dem horns, man, nice job.
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>>133731463
;_;

It's not fair
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It's uncontrollable
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>>133730756
COUNTDOWN 39
Only 7 more to wave 2.
Also 1-2 more days to tats, i'm excite.
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>>133732054
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX8kCn_l0hM
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>>133730756
Look at that sexy succubi bitch ^whistles* noice!

Here's a tip for staying out of jury duty, don't vote. They select people for jury duty from the pool of registered voters... Well that's how it works in Burgertroit anyway. Idk about Mooseville, Brit Bongistbul, or Dingoplolis, because I don't live there and don't need to know.
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>>133730835
Everything but missions from the terminals: time trials, supports, nemesis and squad missions.
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Wake up
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>>133737037
Alex did nothing wrong
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Does ranged appendage damage/Crush.Append cap at 5 like regular appendage crusher, or is there no limit?
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>>133730756
Nice work, her head looks a bit big but good job!

>Jury duty
I wish I could do that, but as a criminology student I'm excluded from that because I'm deemed as having a biased opinion because I have some knowledge of the law already.
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>>133739512
>biased because you understand the law
that's pretty hilarious.
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>>133740965
>>biased because you understand the law
>that's pretty hilarious.
My thoughts exactly.

>>133739512
Enjoy being able to vote without being punished for it later.
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>>133737686
no limit

Crush.Append is the skell equivalent, and if you stack that to the max (18 of them is the most I've tested) you can break an appendage with hilariously low power movess
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>>133730756
Fuck the judicial system, anime memes are more important
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When will Yiggy Shiggy Diggy come back?
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>>133746676
Never. Yggy's tired of our shit so Telethia's takin' over.
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>>133748276
We just need to do our tasks and he'll come back to reap his task money.
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>>133728384
A man of taste.
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>>133743112
So that means a meme missile volley with that, on say, the Enhanced Search Zig/Cliff Monoceros or anything with limbs that can't be targetted by skells (but can be on foot), will have those appendages broken?
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>people are RP running Telethia
>they go as far as equipping five Appendage Crushers along with the Null Ether Reflect

What's wrong with this?
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>>133753960
I really don't see the point of RP running except for grabbing the achievement if you don't already have it.
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>>133754748
What achievement?
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>>133754995
Land a killing blow on a Global Nemesis. "A True Hero," I believe it was called
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>>133754995
>>133755280
There are RP achievements, but they're so low you could get them in less than a few runs with an Ares 90
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>>133755280
So only one person can get the achievement every global nemesis? What the fuck.
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>>133756684
Oh, no. Everyone in the party will get it. Plus, it takes a short while for the game to update.

So say another party kills it. That's perfectly fine, because it won't register until a little later. This gives you time for you (and your party) to land a killing blow as well.

This achievement is still stupid as shit, though.
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Doesn't generating BLADE medals cause Yggy to spawn faster? I remember hearing this.
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>>133758720
cute
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>>133758720
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>>133758497
I don't think there's a way to spawn it faster.
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yggy diggy doo, where are you?
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Isn't it that by completing blade missions (doing the squad tasks, and then doing all of the associated squad missions) makes the red circle in the squad select screen fill up faster, and when it fills up Yggy spawns?

In which case, you guys should be doing blade missions..
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>>133757252
So you just have to be fighting it when it gets defeated, or do you have to be in a group that kills even if you get the message that it gets defeated?


Seems more like luck since the RP doesn't update that often, since it was stuck at 4000RP even after switching squads and fast traveling around to re-load stuff.
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>>133761257
It still has a cooldown period regardless of how much the bar is filled.
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>>133761350
>you have to be in a group that kills even if you get the message that it gets defeated?
Yes, also yes it's mostly luck.
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>>133758497
Doing squad tasks fills the gauge on the lifehold squad/conquest squad screen.

But I've seen that gauge be full and ygg not be up yet, so who knows.
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>>133761350
You and your group have deplete its bar when it's at 0 RP. Supposedly, if you see the defeat notice before you land the killing blow, you can't get the achievement until next time. There was a guy here who had a decent guide to how to do it.

The only thing I can suggest is to make and abandon the global nemesis mission to update it when it gets that low. The moment you see it at 0 RP, run in there and slam it with the Ares 90 as fast as possible. You could always wait for people, but if you're really desperate just do it yourself. One full rotation of Ares 90's arts is more than enough to deplete a bar. I'd say the superweapon is enough by itself, but the one time I did it, I had to fire off Agni Gatling for the last bit
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>>133762358
Er, same guy. You don't need to use the Ares 90 if you have something better, like ultrafauna/opening arts-boosted Zenith Cannon. I only say Ares 90 because most people have at least that.
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>Page 10
STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP
DYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING
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>>133767803
Yggy needs to get the fuck back
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>Slovity Pogus' voice
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Was this shit censored? THIS is Melia's swimming outfit? Does anybody have a Japanese screenshot of Melia wearing swimming clothes for comparison? Words cannot describe how disappointed I am.

can't remove the mask right now due to where I am in the story
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>>133769410
I don't think that's censored, Melia is just a huge prude. She's a closet slut.
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>>133769757
I have found that jungle top is a little better for keeping her skimpy. Jungle top is the best I can do. I was so looking forward to this moment where she'd be wearing a small bikini top in combo with the tiny bikini bottoms that she wears. I would've masturbated furiously then and there.

I donno, maybe there's a way to mod the game. I really want it at this point. Maybe mod Jungle Top to delete the fur.

PLEASE NO SPOILERS. If more skimply stuff comes my way, I want to be surprised and marvel in its beauty myself.

I DO love the treatment that Sharla got. She is adequately skimply to my liking when in swimming attire. Sharla is so hot, I just physically like Melia a little bit more.
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>>133770342
Honestly fashion gear should have been in XB as well so you could have optimized builds and still look stylin'
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>>133758720
CUTE!
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where the fuck is Gotthard, the Intimidating? It says he should be above the huge canyon in Oblivia, but I'm not seeing him anywhere
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Even with all the info we've amassed, there still seems to be some pretty big gaps in our skell art knowledge.

There doesn't seem to be info about what arts are multi attribute beyond "you need both null reflect THERM and PHYS for Detonation Flail" and the in game advertisement for the Trident Anchor that says it's electric and physical.
How does being dual attribute effected by enemy resistances or your own attribute damage augs?

We don't have values for how much bonus damage skell weapon arts that do more damage to _____ do.

We don't have a list of which arts make you status immune during execution (although I hypothesize that it's all the right side only gear)

Is anyone researching this stuff?
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You know how /a/ got some LN authors to show up and have a Q&A, and how some devs showed up for Q&A on /vg/, and Vin Diesel stealthposting on /tg/?

What if we get Takahashi to show up one time in our generals thread? (but we keep the questions filtered and organized ahead of time because holy shit the clusterfuck posting)
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>>133771247
You have better luck getting them to do AMA's on Reddit than 4chan.
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Does ranged appendage damage (ground or skell) get factored in anyway even with melee weapons like G-Buster?
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>>133770949
he's flying around in the big abyss thing by the miranium spot in it. you can see him from the mining spot.
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>>133771372
Didn't the Log Horizon author show up on /a/ not only for Q&A, but took their input to make expansions to the original setting (the foreign servers and classes)?
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>>133769410
But one-piece swimwear is the best kind.

>>133769757
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>>133770949
>>133771452
Just to verify, I checked it out. Idk if you can see him from the mining point, but fly NW and he will appear. He flies in a big circle.
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>>133771452
>>133771737

thanks guys. Trying to get new Orphean wear for my mimfu
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>>133771603
It's okay, but you can't see her delicious tummy and those hip-flaps look stupid.
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>>133771212
I didn't know about multielements. There's just so many thinhs not shown.
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>>133771830
Haha both me but all good. Yeah I did the same thing. Fucking Infinite body did not want to drop. Even though I don't use it, just wanted it to see if I liked it better than what I do use
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>>133771830
One ticket to hell, no return.
Have fun.
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whoever suggested trying Photo Saber/Ghostwalker... thank you so fucking much. I'm having a fucking blast using it.

>Ghostwalker
>Essence Exchange
>start Overdrive
>Astrolibrium
>proceed to Starlight Rape everything
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>>133762183
Wait, the Great Pie Chart actually means something?
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>>133770639
Some of the best armor in the game is the Rondine armor, which appears as a recolor of the character's default clothes
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>>133773248
Oh, really? I don't think I ever got that to drop for me. Also sounds awesome as hell, I love it when the default gear returns, but better.
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>No nemesis at all now
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Does ranged appendage damage/append synergize well with slayer augs for damage output (on limbs), or does it synergize better with ranged attack up/boost

And a second question: What's a generally good ratio of attack up to attack boost augs? Like, how do you even hit 3000+ ranged attack?
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>>133773454
The enemies that drop it are pretty out of the way. You can buy it at colony 6 though if it's rebuilt a significant amount, I don't remember exactly how much.
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>>133773495
I WASTED 49 APPENDAGE FRAGMENTS FUCK
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>>133774870
>Not exchanging every Nemesis spoil for tickets as soon as you get them
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what's the point of the Verus Cain supposedly being super fucking evasive when I still get killed easily by those fucking Millesaur tyrants? Do I literally need to stuff this shit with 10 Evasion Up XX Augments? I swear to god if Yggy isn't back by tomorrow I'm getting rid of this stupid fucking game
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>>133773839
Don't make boost augs, you should hit 100% boost, which is the cap, just from the built in augs in your weapon.
Boost 12 is 17%, so you either need 6 pieces of gear or 5 with 3 of them upgraded.

People hit greater than 3k attack with both boost and 100% Drive on their ground gear.

The real decision is SpecUp or Slayer, and the optimal ratio there depends on a bunch of factors and requires math to figure out.
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>>133775596
Go into overdrive.

Also is the evasion vs accuracy thing a straight-up stat-vs-stat thing, or is there another mitigating formula at work?
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>>133775421
>Not having 9999 tickets
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>>133775596
At 600~ evasion, you won't get hit by almost anything.

StatUp.EVA on each armor piece is already 125. Then just get a bunch of weapons with Boost.EVA and SpecUp.EVA and go to like 700 evasion. Nothing in the game should be capable of hitting you.
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>>133775702
>>133775861

also, the G2 Buster is fucking dog shit for my Cain. Literally the only thing that touches ANYBODY is the Zweihand. I just end going back to my fucking Ares have the time.
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>>133776097
>G2

Use superior G

The two means second best.
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>>133775596
You "only" need evade in the 750 to 800 range to dodge literally everything

Protip: Evasion Drive on your ground gear.
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>>133775620
What do you mean 100% drive?
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>>133776097
Raise your melee attack, too senpai. G2 will be hitting for like 70K damage with just 2800
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>>133776175
What makes regular G Buster preferable over G2 when damage scaling and the multiple hits are skewed over G2 in spite of less base damage?
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Alright, I put a Zenith Cannon on this thing.

What do I do now?
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>>133776175
If G is 100% then G2 is 200%

Actually which one is better better depends on your melee attack stat
The break even point is 1400, above that the G2 is better.
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>>133776623
Opening Attack XX and go forth and rape, and then rape some more.
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>>133776623
Shoulders: Meme Missile / Shoulder weapon with AttributeDmg.PHYS
Arms: Needleguns (?) with AttributeDmg.PHYS twice.
Side: Diskbombs with MagUp (You only need 1)
Spares: Literally anything, but Claymore is objectively the best spares for anything except Beam skells.
Frame: AttributeDmg.PHYS or Position.Above

Bonus points: Get Boost.R-Atk to 100%
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>>133776338
When I said
>100% Drive on their ground gear.

What I meant was:
100% Drive on their ground gear.
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>>133777149
Screenshotted because I am a sheep
Thanks
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>>133777149
What are the meme missiles again? I always forget, sorry
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>>133777468
ME M-Missile or SA M-Missile. One beam, one thermal. The thermal one would work better for Mastucias.
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>>133777468
Something Redditors use to shitpost.

But it's the Me-M (Ether) missiles that home in on appendages so a skell can break a fuckton of parts with a single volley. Also you should ALWAYS get MagUp for them because you can double the payload them.
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>>133776623
>Mastema literally means "hatred" in Hebrew

3edgy5me
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>>133777760
It gets edgier. Mastema was the original Satan.
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>>133777697
>>133777678

I can't find an x60 version of these missiles from the green pugiliths. At best I've only found level 30 or level 50s.
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>>133777760
>>133777835
What's hebrew for boredom? That's the nemesis I'm currently fighting. That and a migraine I've had since sunday.
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>>133777937
You can get them from the Green Plugiliths in the Ganglion Antropolis but they're mega rare, specially with mag up. Level 50s are fine since you just wanna use them to break appendages and appendage crushers will do most of the work for that.
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>>133777937
> found level 30s

You aren't killing the right level range of enemy
Anyway, we've got a guide for skell weapon drops, just read it.
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>>133778440
Has it been improved, because last time I looked at the google doc one, it was dogshit that looks like it was just reverse engineered off some Jap site.
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>>133777937

I thought the only Level 60 Skell weapons you could get were the superweapons? Btw, what's the best superweapon(s) for the Mastema?
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>>133779280
Are we sure he isn't just autistic?
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>>133777760
>>133777835
Mastema might as well be Hebrew for Trustworthy, because that's what he is. You can't go wrong with a Mastema White Reaper to pilot with a Zenith Cannon. Truly it is like delivering divine, non-elemental hellfire upon your opponents.

smt x xeno crossover when, i want to kill god while killing god.
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>>133779359
They probably wouldn't let autists on the white whale
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>>133779229
Every weapon has a series number. Each series determines its stats and its attributes. "x60" weapons refer to series 60 weapons, the highest ones.

Zenith Cannon
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>>133779676

I hear the Drone is good for the Mastema too. is that correct?
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>>133779229
There are level 60 regular skell weapons, they just don't have the level 60 requirement. They're often noted with a 60 at the end of the model number.
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>>133779648
didn't stop a bunch of crazy people on board.
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>>133779749

Im gonna guess those two missiles are what I should be aiming for....
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>>133779717
Yes, but that's a different build than what most people use, since that wants the actual Mastema armor instead of the Amdusias one.
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>>133779857
You only want the one highlighted, or the Sakuraba equivalent. They need to be M-missle types.
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>>133779798
I really want to know how some people got onto the white whale. I mean, there's people like Frye, who are the perfect example of who to let on, then there's Mia. Why was she given a ticket? Because her dads were explorers?
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>>133779648
I'm guessing there's a lot of autists or otherwise socially challenged people in fields that would prove useful to the White Whale. Isn't he some kind of engineer or some shit? He's from a military family and I remember he makes a point of him not being a soldier like most of his family.

>>133780018
Mia's actually a skell engineer. Skells are valuable, engineers who can work on skells are valuable. She DOES do field repairs on her skell with shit you get for her, after all.
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>>133780136
She can repair her skell getting the shit absolutely wrecked out of it with a bunch of random crap she has you grab in Sylvalum twice.

After stealing it and running off with it. Without any prior training.
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>>133780136
Oh yeah, I forgot about Mia.

I want to say Phog isn't autistic but there's a lot of proof against it. Half the time he acts incredibly autistic, and the other half he doesn't.
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>>133778256
>>133778440

The google docs chart isn't enough. Is there a level 50ish range pugilith that drops the shoulder missiles, and not in the antropolis?
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>West or South
>can't view map during cutscenes/dialogue
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>>133781236
West, always choose west.
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>>133781236
Is this what I think it is, anon? I'm gonna suggest south, because I did west. If you do choose south, tell me what happens.

But if you choose west, then he dies somehow, despite being a fucking mim. Other guy dies, too.
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>>133781236
West is Phosphor Lake, South Nopon Caravan.
South he lives, West a Filliavent gets him.
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>>133781651
Shit, I meant if you want to know what happens if you pick west.
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>>133781729
I don't think it was a filiavent that gets him. I vaguely recall something about the toxic environment rather than the stupid plant-thing.
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>>133781948
I dunno, never allowed him to go die in that voltant paradise.
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>>133782315
I figured it was safer than going south, since I thought he'd be running through all the ganglion skells.

Man, was I wrong as fuck.
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>>133779112
You're looking at the wrong doc
The Skell weapon one is probably our 2nd best one and was independently researched by an anon. (with the battle trait guide being the best guide, although that one was in fact translated from Japanese)

Meanwhile, the "Everything" doc is full of google translate shit when it isn't missing info completely, and is never getting updated
Really shouldn't be listed first.
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>the black skell is only level 37
>nothing is revealed about its pilot
It's partially my fault for putting off the mission for so long but fuck if that's not a little disappointing after all that build up.
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alright, i'm 70 hours in and i have yet to see anything about leveling battle arts. is it something you earn through the story or something?
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>>133783667
No, you just go to the arts menu and level them up
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>>133783667
Do people just not explore the game menus?
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>>133783424
Do we ever find out who was that pilot that rescued Goetia in Noctylum?
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>>133783667
You're literally told in a tutorial pop up in Chapter 2, you probably just button mashed past it
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>>133783897

to be fair, unless you know that pushing x opens submenus, you'd never find things like the fashion gear and such menus.
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>>133784125
>>133784469
>that guy with the LPs where he tried to beat the ch9 cats with mostly auto attacks
>wah wah bullshit, wah wah grindan

If I wanted to play XCX as it was "intended to" I'd watch some moron on 'tube bumble and bungle their way through it.
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>>133784642
holy shit that sounds hilarious

link?
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>>133784956
Is this your skell? I found it somewhere, not here, but it looks just like yours.

I was trying to build the same one but with the 50 variants of the weapons.
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I got the maymay missiles
They're not the best,but I'm trying to get everything into place first.
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>>133784956
OBAGames is hillarious and painful to see him bungle his way thru
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>>133785506
Those are the GA and GG versions, I believe the go-to ones are ME or SA
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>>133785505
>>133785506

I thought the Meredith missiles were the only ones that auto target parts?
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>>133785505
its an old pic but yeah

>50 variants
anon please...

>>133785661
SA's track too. Neat for thermal builds
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>>133785623
Shoot, the only ones I have are beam. Are they dropped by the Pugiliths in Ganglion atropolopolis?
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you know, people said getting a skell would be a pain in the ass, but 3/8 of it was auto-completed, with all but one taking any amount of time... since i got distracted by a cave that wouldn't stop throwing enemies at me for like 30 minutes. still, i'm glad i went out of my way to dick around between chapters like that. made it less painful, i suppose.
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>>133785661
I'm pretty sure the Sakuraba ones do too, since no one ever recommends ones that aren't SA or ME, that or the others don't get the upgraded missile mag.
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I didn't know items could have two of the same effect built in.
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>>133785931
Yup, dropped by the Judge Pugliths.

>>133785928
How long did it take you to get the 60 variants? I only got one within the time I got two 50s with the magazine up.
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>>133786419
Some weapons can have two AttributeDmg or PositionDmg. Not all of them, though.
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>>133786419
They're separate levels so they count as separate abilities as far as the game cares. Still it's always nice to get two Phys Dmg ups or something.
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>>133785623
Does it matter if it's SA or ME? Is there a difference?
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>>133787206
SA is Thermal, ME is Beam.
Or the other way around, I'm not sure.
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>>133787376
Yeah, I'm getting thermal SAs.
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got 'em
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>>133788246
No wait fuck one is GA.
Fixed it though
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>>133788376
i hope you are ready to farm for augs
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>>133788962
I need *something* to work on.
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>finally get a needlegun
>it's level 30
fug
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If you could swap out overdrive for a 9th art, would it be worth it?
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>>133790456
> it's level 30

the enemy you are killing is not in the right level range.
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>Missed out on the getting your character drawn
I'm a tad miffed.


Also, how's this for a mid tier Rust?
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>>133790456
Stop killing enemies in the wrong level range you dumb nigga.
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>>133790756
Sorry, but that's really bad
>>133790843
>>133790743
Which enemy do I kill? All I see on the chart are the petramand in turtle nest
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>>133790756
>mid tier
>only has 1 remotely desirable trait
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worst rust of all time never forget
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>>133791205
Are you people incapable of reading or something
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>>133791358
Haha no, my first rust was stabilizer, nullify physical and crush gain tp.
Why put such shit traits on all equipment from one AM? I don't see the purpose
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>>133791579
Yes ayy lmao
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>>133791205
The line directly above that line says the tyrant in Stone Lattice Cavern

and a couple lines down says alt spot is the Vigent tyrant in Oblivia
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>>133791579
Honestly, when I'm home from work I think I'll change that line to be more specific and give directions from an actual fast travel point.
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>>133791349
>>133791205
I like the healing factor and didn't know you could get a raw attack and crit up. (Kinda assume that falls onto the extremely rare/hacked side.)

>>133791358
That exact one dropped for me a little earlier, shame there isn't an art that let's you throw your long sword at an enemy, might make the ranged damage appendage viable.
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>>133792414
If you're the one that made it, the name of that tyrant is "Caesar, the Hundred-Eyed"
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>>133792580
>hacked
unless they have multiples of the same, best traits, noone is fucking hacking in Rusts. Probably.
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>>133792868
After playing Monster Hunter 4U, you'd be surprised how people would hack their gear to maintain plausible deniability that it was legitimate.
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>>133793123
Well, my rust was from the 6th kill
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Turn fashion gear off. Post results
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>>133793182
You either got extremely lucky or cheated, all I can do is shrug at either one and work with what I get.
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>>133793657
>or cheated
Why would I waste time cracking my WiiU
I don't even hold any top spots/close to them in time trials

I think maybe 1 person from here cheats, and he was laughed out of the thread for being a retard who couldn't play online and was adding 4billion credits/tickets and arguing he wasn't cheating
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>>133793306
Kinda close to matching but that left doesnt
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>>133793891
>hacks all the items for his ares
>"it's just a prank bro"
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>>133795015
That was great
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>>133792651
I don't really see how the name of the tyrant is that important, it's not like there's more than one in the area and you'll get them confused.
Just seems like more text for no improvement
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>>133793891
i already said I didn't care. I will say 'The lady doth protest too much, methinks'.

But someone giving themselves 4 billion credits sounds like the height of laziness. Can you even get 4 billion credits in this game?


>>133795105
It help narrows things down so they can cross references it if they need to.
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>>133795105
Alrighty. Got it, Chief.
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>>133795307
999,999,999 is the cap as far as I recall.

I'm just trying to dissuade you from believing that many people hack, because it's very rare/few and far between.
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>>133795307
I'm pretty sure there's an achievement for getting a billion credits, so probably
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>>133793891
I remember that guy. He was bragging about how he didn't have to deal with the censorship and maxed out his breast slider as a way to justify himself.
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>>133771212
>>133771848
I'm pretty sure Zweihand-Q does Gravity and Physical.

>>133787376
>>133787625
SA does more damage if the enemy is Blazed first, ME does more if you're higher than the enemy.
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>>133795414
Considering where we're posting and my past experience with the player bases of other games from this place, I don't think so Tim.

>>133797208
Sounds like the Fire Emblem General exceptt for /XBCX/ to experience that, they'd have to multiply the guy by a few hundred and have him control half the thread. That place is a clusterfuck.
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>>133798725
WiiU hacking is way less doable/practical/done than 3ds hacking.

Someone asked about it several threads ago, noone responded, noone knew; guy couldn't even find any leads on how to do it.

Of my 3ds friends, the large majority have CFW installed, myself included. Of my WiiU friends, not a one has any sort of hacking done.
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>>133786524
over the course of 3 days, so 18 hours of farming maybe? desu I use my farming time to catch up on seasonal anime
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>>133797381
I thought it did only Gravity, and the scaling simply included Physical? It's why I put it on my Amdusias physical build. It's not the superweapon, but it seems to be doing fine.
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Please someone explain me Yelv's last affinity mission ending
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>>133799941
Mass-produced mims, all with the same personality, that are highly skilled and follow orders. They'd be a perfect clone army, and you wouldn't have to worry about losing their skills if something goes wrong and they die, since you could just make another copy in a new J-body.

There isn't really a whole lot to explain.
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>>133799885
How can it scale from Physical DMG Up if it doesn't do physical damage?
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>>133800324
I thought I was missing something, thanks for the help
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>>133798841
I'll say it once and I'll say it again, 'The lady doth protest too much, methinks.'


On the flip side, I found an old friend.
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So considering the focus on exploration and all the treasures everywhere, why did they get rid of the Ether crystals from the first Xenoblade?

Their new system of killing an enemy 50 times for materials feels a lot worse to go through the motions of then the previous way to get stuff to slot into your gear.

It's not like there aren't excellent places to hide crystal gather points all over the world.
Right now we've got a couple caves, like Turtles Nest and Demon's Pocket, that don't really have much of a point.
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>>133795105
Don't be a lazy cunt, if the indigen has a name, say its name. Every other site does it.

Example, When searching the mats needed to make an augment, it gives you the name of the Tyrant that drops it, it doesn't just go 'the 'tyrant at Beast Lair.'
http://birdonwheels5.no-ip.org/xenoblade/material_search.php?search_term=blazing+gas+sac&submit=Submit


Granted this site is shitty too, but it's on the right track. Don't be lazy and then think the readers would get information overload and not get it. it just sounds like you're being lazy and don't want to make a quality product.
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>>133804252
The majority of names aren't listed to drive home the fact that (outside of the ganglion weapons, which do have exact names listed when it's important) what an enemy drops doesn't depend on it's name but rather it's model and level

Example is saying Milsaadi female instead of Milsaadi Savage and Milsaadi Astran for the 51 - 60 listing
With this format, if anyone has a question of: "what does [exact enemy name] drop", they can figure it out based on the categories it falls under.
This also prevents the guide from becoming bloated (and it's already pretty long) from having the name of every Puge/Pugilith/Xe-dom/ect listed

I'll admit that it's imperfect in the cases of Marnuks and Qomeva, because I still haven't deduced what the exact lines are that separate their types.
I do know that helmetless Marnuks don't drop skell gear at all though.


Tyrants are, aside from their species, just stated as "Tyrant" because that's all you should need to identify them if you go to the location.
The exact name is superfluous, but w/e I guess I'll put them in if you've got your panties in such a bunch over it.
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>>133783980
Goethia rescued? What?
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>>133807039
She gets evac after you beat her up on foot in Noctilum.
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>>133806404
Still sounds like an excuse to minimize information. You list off all the possible enemies that can drop it as opposed to a category. The vagueness is one of the worst things going for the doc. I had to consult the wiki to make sure I was hunting the right things because of how lacking your guide is.

Trust me, having the names of the enemies will GO A LONG WAY towards making things easy to understand. Yes it's not ideal for a google docs, but better to go that extra mile. Yes the bloat might not make it look as nice, but it's better to have it be idiot proof since if a person has to look else where to confirm your information, it means it's a failure. Same issue with tyrants because there are a few areas where there are multiple tyrants in the same place.

It's better to have everything labeled fully to make sure people don't make any mistakes. (Green Pug) doesn't help at all. Especially since a lot of people farm them in Sylvalum when they need to do it in Cauldros for the ME-M missiles.

>>133807039
When you first beat her in Ncctiual and the Ganglion skell pops in and goes 'Mistress Goethia! something something, she gets into its hand and they both leave.
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>>133806404
We've had people coming in to ask and confirm exact enemies.

By the way, there are some tyrants that either spawn close to each other, or they share the same location but appear at different hours.

So cross-checking and figuring it out ends up with double checking the Japanese guides and then trying to guess what the JP names of the enemies are, because wikia doesn't go very far with it.
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>>133807293
>a few areas where there are multiple tyrants in the same place

You mean like in Cauldros where there may be as many as three tyrants in the same place?
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>>133807765
I have times, day only, night only, late night only, listed

I'm pretty sure the only places where two tyrants of the same species spawn in the same place are the tyrant Petramands on top of the lava falls by Abandoned Bivouac, and the two tyrant Ovis that spawn under Pyotr.

In both cases, the two tyrants are in the same level range so they drop the same stuff.
Also in the case of the petramands, it's not a recommenced spot, and in the case of the ovis they CLEARLY aren't Sylooth, which is what the guide sends you there to kill.

>>133807293
>It's better to have everything labeled fully to make sure people don't make any mistakes. (Green Pug) doesn't help at all. Especially since a lot of people farm them in Sylvalum when they need to do it in Cauldros for the ME-M missiles.

Then I guess those people can't read because the guide currently directs you to the Ganglion Antroplois for the level range of green pugilith that can drop series 60.

I guess I could change the "enemy level range column" to a "series dropped" column, but I figured listing the approximate level of what you're going to be up against made for easier identification when you got there and also let you know how prepared you would nee to be to actually farm the things.
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>>133809210
I'll be honest, it was horrible when I used it, and it's horrible still. It's a just a mess of information that's better suited for a Jpeg image than a google doc. along with the fact I stress against, specific information is better. And of course people are going to gloss over reading the guide correct, it's a goddamn mess.

So many ways to fix things it's not funny, make separate windows, color code them, don't treat it like it's an image and paste random info where you see space. Not even getting to being precise location for the monsters, so much can be improved. Obviously you think it's good enough as is, otherwise you wouldn't be fighting our suggestions tooth and nail. But I'm just letting you know, you're wasting a lot of potential with that horrible layout and withholding information.
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>>133810554
>Not even getting to being precise location for the monsters

But it has that?

The more I read your critiques about idiot proofing and your own personal experience with the guide the more I have to think that you're the idiot.

Now I've asked in these very threads multiple times for people to give suggestions regarding readability, and I got close to no feedback about that,
At those earlier times I mostly got mentions of omission of alt sources for gear or corrections on info I wasn't 100% sure on.

I will give some thought to color coding, but other then that I think most of what you say isn't worth my time to even read.
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>you'll never /ss/ with Celica because Hykem is a fag
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>>133810554
Now, don't get over yourself. I've used it plenty of times and didn't have seizures while reading it.
It's pretty straightforward. This is dropped by that, high level is here/there's a tyrant.
How many tyrants with the samish level and species are there in a given sector? Heidi and Clara are the only that comes to mind, really.
If someone is retarded and can't figure out that "X Species drop this" and a N level tyrant here drops it means this tyrant is also of specie X it's not the author's fault.

Then, I don't think extra formatting could help much. Colors, tabs, sheets and the likes are just messier to navigate and look at.
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>>133807156
>>133807293
Completely forgot that, now I remember, thanks.
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>>133812597
>you are now imagining a Celica that is Rock's height

also LOL at manLet there
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>>133813094
Thanks, but I changed it a little anyway.

The new color coordination might actually cause eye bleeding in some, but it should also prevent people from killing the Petramands in Turtle's Nest and thinking that they're going to get series 60

That is assuming they see and actually pay attention to the color key...
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>>133818486
Eat the potato, potato
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>>133818486

Does anyone have any Jap pics of Lin in the Orphean? i need it for scientific, totally consensual reasons
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>>133793306
Well what do you know, it actually looks pretty good.
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>>133800472
Wait, Zweihand-Q scales from AttributeDmg.PHYS stuff? I thought it only had that but didn't provide any bonuses to weapon itself.
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>>133816520

Idiot-proofing? For example.

Did you know you can get series 50 to 60 G(2) Busters from that lone coffin puge outside Old Ceremonial Hollow? Don't have to get inside the cave on foot and have to fight those three bunched together inside.

Or that for farming high level diskbombs, Milsaadi Savages never go above level 54, but Milsaadi Astrans start at level 58 minimum?

Or that for higher level meme missiles besides Ganglion Antropolis, that players for the meantime can try farming the lone (level 40+) green pugilith at Badr Basin guarded by Quos?

Those small, helpful things that make farming more efficient? Because in-game, the enemy stats only give you a vague level range that may or may not show up in the actual world.

Does it matter? Yes, because RNG will do, what RNG does, so every placebo helps, or that some placebo is better than none, for time and effort considered.
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>>133793306
Meh.
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>>133822763
ANTS
ANTS
ANTS
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I swear to fuck I am tired of shit dropping ground gear when I'm looking for Skell gear holy shit
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>>133818486
Linly Stark with a plethora of clumsy and dumb robots.
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