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Old >>130348315

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
Saturday Fight Club: 6cb7ieyy (every Saturday 6pm EST, rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com
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Stake Driver.
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I mean if i wanted to hit people 10ft away i would use saif too you know?
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>>130372716
I know, webm material
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>>130372445
No healing in a fight club with top tier gems isn't fun imo. It means fights can end in like 2 dash R1s, and it removes a layer of depth that results from healing and heal parries.

>>130372676
I never promoted level 60. I created the level 98 meta in BB and pushed a level 70 meta in DaS1.
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>>130372941
I know its shitposting but damn

>Depth
>Skill

Fight clubs mean there can be no mistakes
one mistake and half your HP is gone

REALLY FUCKIN REALISTIC CONSIDERING WE FIGHT WITH FUCKING WEAPONS

You made me respond, great job shitposting
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Damn, so close. GG Elizabeth.
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>>130373151
"opinion different than my own" != shitposting

You really need to learn the difference, kiddo.
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Fucking Beautiful Byron.
On your part, not mine. My part was mainly flailing around like a dumbass.
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Damn, Blood Addled we're lagging like crazy.
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>>130373506
Thanks, Mori. Good to fight ya, I'm actually really liking using this stupid Tiny Tonitrus. You've kicked my ass most other times, so, hey.
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>>130372480
Well id make big changes to it. But it has the perfect resting bitch face
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Gg ayy, I wanted to kill you with melee arrow. I totally deserved it.
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>Getting hit behind a glove cast
Lol what. Gg though I fucked up Lucas.
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>>130373363
If you dont participate in the community,
then what are you doing?
Go to a game that you actually play
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Holy shit, nice parry
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>Yahar'gul before killing Rom
Shit that's pretty fucking spooky. Almost beats out Upper Cathedral Ward. You just know all kinds of weird shit is going on. And that music.
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>>130373668
remind me tomorrow, and I can toss them to you
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>parry guy
>dodge-R1 into him instead of Visc
>hit does not register
Thanks From.
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>>130373215
Aye, gg man
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>>130373857
MALEDICTUUUUUS
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GG Gregor, that was a great end.

Well lads I'm off, have to cook breakfast,
Its fucking 10 AM in the morning for me in Singapore.
That would also explain my wonky internet.
It usually works but damn, today sucked.
Great games guys and see you next time.
I will bring a better internet
Also is the name blood addled any good for a blt hoontah?
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>>130373704
>the fight club is the entirety of the community
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father, I...
50 vit is not a fucking meme family
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Ayy that was awesome didn't expect that first attack, gg senpai.
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>>130373968
We already have a Blood Addled blt hoontah

>>130374006
25 vit is the real meta
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>>130372431
>>130372264
>>130372372


If anybody would like to watch.
twitch tv / fnc__
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what the FUCK was that trialaccount
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ASCALON IS THE TRUE WIZARD

I AIN'T NEVER SEEN SHIT LIKE THIS BEFORE
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>>130374080
>dying to one unzip
wew
>>130374117
do it fnc, I haven't fought you yet either so you better stick around
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Well that was my first time ever being oneshot in a FC. GG, you took my low-vit virginity.
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Nice fight, Gregor. Wasn't sure if I'd get that parry, I just felt it and went for it.
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>>130374153
Lester? You were lagging really badly on my part too. It's crazy.
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>>130374298

It was amazing. I'm going to make my very first ever webm just to post it.
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>>130374145
The aoe? that's the cauliflower L2
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>Keep getting instant-kill visceral'd

Guys please, you're hurting my feelings here. ;_;
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>>130374258
Are you me? The same just happened against him though I was planning on landing it.
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>>130374486
>>130374258
Hey, you guy's parried Gregor? I parried Gregor too!
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Holy shit, Gregor. I was not expecting to land that Augur parry.
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Nice fight, Lucas Cain. You're never going to catch me with that executioner gloves trap, I use it to set up hits on my arc characters so I'm cautious about it.
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Apparently it's Parry Gregor day
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Cyrus pls no bully
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>>130374692
>>130374653
>>130374486
>>130374258
Man, Gregor can not catch a break can he?
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>>130374779
a-parry-ently
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>>130374858
Lel.
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>>130374840
And now Control joined him too.
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>>130374080
yeah that is me...
I wanted to know if it was a decent name
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>>130374764
Fighting you made me feel like a fat kid. Really having a hard time getting close to you and land hits.
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>>130373869
cool, thanks
also you have an imposter, idk if youve fought him
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>>130375065
It would be funny as fuck to HoH invade you.
"You have invaded Blood Addled Hunter Blood Addled."
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>>130375154
yeah he challenged me to a killian off
beat him 3-0 :^)
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almost everyone I co-op with from the general I never see in FC's. Cmon bros, let me have at you.
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Jeez Hau our connection is...not great
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>>130375065
It works. I personally prefer actual names for characters, but titles work too.
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>>130374840
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>Weapon at risk
That was the first time I've ever seen that in this game, I got too carried away having fun with y'all instead of going back to the dream to repair and restock at all, maybe I'll eventually get good with this weapon set up sometime

I gotta run though, great fights all around, sorry for whoever had to suffer through my kinda laggy blacksky eye's, I got pretty trigger happy with those by the time I left
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>>130375210
I fucked up her quest.....
so no HoH for me
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Lol gg senpai Crowley that was a good fight, fell for the whistle too many times.
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>>130374917
:^)
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wow, what does spinning Logi's Wheel repeatedly do?
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Ayy had a sweet no-scope brew throw on me. I dodged straight into it. It was sick.
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Good to see other church hunters out there
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>>130375438
Don't spam pistol with BLT build. It hurts my feelings dude.
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>>130375453
Boosts its arcane damage and drains your health a lot.
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>>130375453
Revving up the wheel buffs it's arc damage at the expense of ridiculous health drain
If your wheel is souped up for arc damage you can hit 1000's on R1's if it's revved up fully
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>>130375534
I was going for a parry
;^J
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>>130375226
tonight?
he has the exact same facial aesthetics and crown as you, but hes bad
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Huh, if you hit the dead dog it sprays blood.

That's neat.
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>>130375686
Its not dead...
its cursed...
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>>130375240
IT'S FINE
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Good fight, Gravelord. Nice to have the damage coming when the hits connect.
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Will you fags still have FC after DaS 3 comes out?
I'm getting a PS4 in April
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>>130375659
hey man, I'm the only one wearing a crown here and I'm like 25-5
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>>130375763
Never thought I'd see asanagi in /bbg/
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>>130375853
if youre smithie youre 0-3 vs me :^)
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>>130375853
I'm also wearing a crown but 37-8
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>>130375847
I know I will, I think I seriously prefer BB to Dark Souls.
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>>130375686
do NOT hit our mascot
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>>130375907
I thought cyrus was my only copy cat
>>130375932
one day we'll face off anon, I got here at 7:30 so I'm playing catch up
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>>130375957
inb4 webm of someone crushing vermin on Dead Dog.
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>>130375801
Yeah, it's pretty nice, Your ACB was kind of weird, but it didn't do anything
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>>130375847
I will, these builds have legs
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>>130375907
I'll kill you senpai, tell me your name and I'll do my 100%.
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>>130375957

i'm literally hitting him over and over again right now just to see the blood spray
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>>130376157
Someone should whirligig L2 the dog
Mowin' the lawn
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>Bloodletter, Chikage and Augur

What kind of build is that?
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>>130376269
IT DOESN'T REACH
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>>130376030
do i look like a copy of you?
all i do is use rakuyo
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>>130376315
Period tentacles?
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Control why ruin my music senpai? September won't ever sound the same again.
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Nice outfit, gravelord.
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>>130376361
yeah I thought you were aping me bro, was that not your intention?
>>130376315
a fun one
also exegloves>chikage is retarded
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I think I accidentally made an album cover
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>>130376527
not really, i was just making a kek build.
But now I like it so much ive stuck with it

I can be your child if u want dada :^)
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Holy shit how are you supposed to fight that huge fish creature with the giant ass anchor!?
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>>130376967

By gittin gud and parrying it.
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>>130375847
No, I'll be too busy playing DaS3 fcs.

I think, when DaS3 comes out, all of the weaknesses of BB will just irk me even more because I'll have something else that isn't BB to play instead.
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fug
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>>130376967
Parries are you friend. That said, their grab has absurd tracking, watch out for it.
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nice double KO, Ayy
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Damm, Kass. That Stake Dinner hurts.
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>>130376967
Carefully
also stab his butt with a shaman bone blade
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>>130377106
Alright. Wanna coop through hamlet with me?
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Nice fights, Mori. Well, that's it for me. I'm starting to play real badly now. Better go back to farming decent gems so I don't do shit damage for the next FC kek.
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Postan my bigass image again. Just a neat collection of all the art for weapons and tools
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Gg Alth, those magic pixels
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>>130377159
Are you me? Me and ayy just also double ko'd.
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Nice one, Althaz.
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Oookay Control, that was some interesting phantom range dude.
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>>130376510
Thanks, been wearing it for awhile
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>>130377232
I'm in the fight club at the moment, is in 5 mins or so fine?
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>>130377820
not him, but idgaf a fuck about any phantom range but saif.

You could have never pvp'd in a souls game before and still win 4/5 matches with saif
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>>130376859
Yo Cyrus, I had a match against earlier tonight, but we lost connection as soon as I parried you.
Did you pull the plug?
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So I'm a bit late to the FC, is it happening on the usual dungeon or is it on that one some guy recently suggested?
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>>130377874
Yeah that's cool. I'll ring my bell now and sit in the area, I waited awhile before so I don't expect much activity.

Also, when we finally get to the giant fish hook dude let's shaman bone him.
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>>130377963
I've only ever noticed phantom range on saif, I think it's due to the forward lunge on it.
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>>130377820
I caught your roll family, the animation on the OHB usually just goes all the way until the end anyway
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>>130378137
Loran Glyph. Look at last thread's OP picture.
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I have no idea how to deal with the Rakuyo, Cyrus. gg anyway
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YO WHERE DA FC AT
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>>130378154
No password? Are you at the first lamp?

Unrelated, what was up with that schoana, what happened there?
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>Saif shit
>Finishes fight with Watering Can
JUST
GG.
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I saw my opportunity and took it, Liz. I'm sorry.
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>>130378617
I think that was me. What's the all the random unlock rolls?

Anyways I'm strimming it if you would like to watch:
>>130374117
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>>130378583
I have no clue what you mean about passwords, I only just today got Playstation plus, but I beat blood borne already just going through the dlc then gonna work on chalices.
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god damn I was positive that'd kill you sunset
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>try to do a running R2
>does stationary one instead

JUST

GG Papa B
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>>130378359
What I saw looked like that I died 0.5 sec after the dodge animation landed. Anyways, it was a nice fight.

Griffith (I think that was his name at least) close fight man.

Sabbatine over and out, had some good fights, some of them are even webum material I think, good night guys.
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>>130378794
I was positive I would die or at least trade. I guess hyper armor gives you a slight increase to defence.
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>>130378131
That was my first match but my connection was god awful, if you noticed.
We were both jumping all over the place before I disconnected.


Its fixed now though, im down to stick around for a bit but i gtg in 35 min because im a party animal feel me pham
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>>130378767
I toggle lock-on on\off based on when i'm attacking and what attack i'm using. Let's me have more control. It also lets me move a bit better than dashing when someone's right on top of me.
And I just cannot fight fucking Saifs. The only people I'm consistently losing against are Saif-users.
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>>130378820
You need to run for a good second before you can do a running attack. This was probably to prevent DaS2's instant running attack spam meta.
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>>130378290
The tricked close attack and the side swing attack also have retarded phantom range
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>>130378923
Nah, I was gonna kill you before it went off, it just didn't do enough damage because it was too far after/before the r2 and then the r2 follow up to get counter damage
shoulda just jump attacked, good fight sempaitachi
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>>130378998
The only thing that can match a saif is a bloodbletter. The difference between god-tier and just 'decent' weapons, when both are used by competent players, is just too extreme.
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>>130378131
or we can set a pass if you want to beat me into the ground that badly
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Good fight, Skinner. Ya got me.
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Well shit, I wasn't expecting that parry to hit
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>>130378792
You can set a password in the network menu to help connect to specific people easier, I'll head over after next duel.
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THANKS PSN
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>>130379373
I died inside, that was unexpected gg man.
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>>130379292
Pass's don't work for invasions m8.
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Sorry control. Bloodborne just fucking crashed on me.
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>>130379480
The trick is to always do what the enemy doesn't expect.
No one expects to get parried.
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>>130379579
exec vileblood
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>>130379608
it looked pretty funny, considering you just did the gesture I almost thought it was a jape
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What the fuck, apple? You parried me on my blood bullet flask? Could be more bm?
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>all that Pick hyper armor

Man, I never seem to get it when I use it
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>>130379383
Password will be bbg
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>>130379821
Exactly how I feel. Other people always seem to power through all my attacks but I rarely do the same
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>>130379964
Crowley out, had a few good fights, embarrassed myself and a few other people, all in all good fun.
I'm off to help you out, person.
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That was the lamest fight ever wheel
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>>130379964
Ringing at the fishing hamlet lantern.
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>>130380143
Are you blue person?
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Is repeating pistol any good without BLT investment?
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>>130379187

I'm feeling like I'm going to level up my 'letter invader for FC next week.

God I love savescumming.
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>>130379821
Hyperarmor has always been a flat-out bad pvp mechanic.
It's only active late enough into the attack to the point where, in pvp, you would have hit them anyways even without it. There's always a delay after you hit somebody before they take damage from the attack, so in order to actually interrupt someone you have to hit them very early. That 'very early' isn't covered by hyper armor, but the point where it'd already be too late to interrupt you without getting hit is where the hyperarmor begins.

In most cases, hyperarmor works to your own detriment more than your benefit because it, for some reason, extends throughout the entire recovery of most attacks with it. Mmeaning if someone dodges through your hyerparmor swing with a saw or something, they can just mach R1 while you're recovering and get several hits in because you have this pointless hyperarmor that does nothing except prevent you from being able to escape retaliation.
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Should I use amygdalan arm?
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Control...
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>>130380897
Yeah, finger mode is mad fun
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>>130379579
o well i gtg.
I beat every person I fight except you and kilian, and I've literally never beaten either of you once.
And the FC's only pair us like 2-3 times if at all.

O well, ill git gud 1 day
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Didn't think I'd actually catch anyone with a primed charge attack with the Boom Hammer tonight. Damn
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>>130380940
sorry fampai, I don't like when people backstep parry fish and the best thing about bt builds is being able to punish that faggy playstyle
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Is there a guide for arcane? I saw a vegetable magical man come help me blow the spider out of the water and I want to learn the powers of the good magical blood gods now.

Where do I start to become a magical arcane master?
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Phew

Gg Log, that fight was tense as hell
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>>130381315
Vit: 30+
End: 15-20
Arc: 50+
Weapons: Parasite, anything you can put elemental gems on
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>>130380589
I'm the one that just died killing the curse spewer, didn't expect to get commission blocked so hard.
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>>130381161
Wasn't fishing for anything, just the unzip even after being staggered fucked my shit was trying to think.

But cool worst thing about a blt is their shot doing half the work because they're inept, faggy playstyle.
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>>130381619
it was 200 damage man, sorry I misread your backstepping and gunshooting as parry fishing
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>>130381434
yeah man gg weird end though? Died like in the animu's
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>>130381619
I remember you implying my Bloodletter + OHB combo was a shitter move. Now you use it. I've never seen someone as immersed as playing like an edgelord as you, dris. Kudos.
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50 vit is obviously a meme, Control. Dying in one hit is perfectly fine for me.
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>>130381813
psh...nothing personnel are you even in this fc?
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>>130381746
200 of 600 is one third so i'll correct myself "'a third of the work" also still don't understand your last part is that genuine or being a cuck?
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>>130381559
Collision, damn phone autocorrected.
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>>130381926
Yes, you pushed my shit in a lot of times. I was Lucas Cain, that arcane dude with a cane.
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>>130381981
geniunish, I'm not really sorry because if you can't dodge bullets you should die but I really did think you were backing off to parry fish because most skillfags do the same shit when they're low
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>>130381813
Um wrong person m8
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>>130381756
I think we both hit each other with the Saif startup
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>>130382069
>Lucas Cain
>Cain
>Cane
>Uses a Cane
Oh, fuck you.
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Nice to see another Whirli, Wilhelm.
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>>130382104
Meant to quote Control. Sorry familee

>>130382150
That wasn't even the initial plan, but I'm happy with how it turned out. kek.
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>>130382069
consider it my revenge for shoving my shit in that fc, but I try to use more than dash r1 but I still do it sometimes because I get annoyed when I die
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Blue person if you're here give me a minute gonna switch my gems around
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>>130382071
shot I took because of the horrendous damage, But ok .
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>>130382332
Agreed. Someone has to represent the Powder Kegs.
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>>130382425
Last* jesus
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>>130382402
Alright ringing my bell again at the lighthouse hut lamp, bbg is pass again.
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>>130382476
Is the whirligig even a powderkeg weapon?
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>>130382626
Yeah, read descriptions
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Finally finished cutting out all of the between-fight shit from the FC today. Might throw together a video later.
Expect lots of Beast Cuttah, Kirkhammer, and generally scrubby play.
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>>130382626
Yessir. Check the description.
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>>130382626
It is, read the description for it.


Good fight as usual, Mori.
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>buy DLC
>start new character
>still have trouble on Gascoigne after two other play throughs
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>>130382626
Probably.
[X] Overly Intricate
[X] Big and Unwieldy
[X] Surprisingly Effective
[X] Say's it was crafted by the Powder Kegs in the Item Description.
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>>130382752
That last one is the real clincher, but the fact that it doesn't explode still leaves me filled with doubt.
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>>130382831
Rifle Spear doesn't explode either
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>>130382402
I'm ringing again as well.
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>>130382902
But it has gunpowder in it
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>>130382831
I think only Djura favored the more explosive aspect of the weapons crafted by the Powder Keks, while the rest preferred the intricate design.
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>>130383353
Is this what happens when you level Int?
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>dying to the chikage drain
JUST
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>>130382902
How do you thing bullets shoot?
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>>130383362
Is that why Djura doesn't use a cannon?
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>>130383639
>/SPOILER
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>>130383708
Blood and magnets
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>>130383527

Delayed ACB is a high-level PvP technique.
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>>130382752
I wonder what would happen if someone tries to shoot a cannon in the same way as in the game
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Me: 2
Skinner: 3

I hope to even the score by the end of the fight club.

POWDER KEGS RULE
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>>130383706
Happened to me too.
I SHAME MY ANCESTORS.
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>>130383706
Happened to MorI too
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>>130382723
I'm at my fourth character and sometimes I rage quit fighting some NPC hunters
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>>130383837
>having fun kegging
>skillfaggot comes around with his nofunallowed saifshit.
Everytime.
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>>130383887
>that rifle spear hunter near the tonsil stone door
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Thanks for indulging me with the fist fight, Kassidy.
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>>130383941
If it's so strong why aren't you using it?
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>>130384123
It doesn't shoot flames or explode.
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Thanks a bunch, Blueperson05 and FearSCII
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I'm bl98 and I'm only invading.
Is the meta 120 now?
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>>130383941
The only fun fight I had against a skill player was with Skinner and some guy doing this really neat samurai toon. Other than that, yeah. Not fun.

Nice to know someone else is kegging tonight. Hopefully I get to fight you. Look out for Wilhelm.
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>>130384123
it's not fun to literally hit people 10 feet away from me.
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Carlia

I've fought you 3 times. What's with the coin toss
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>>130384162
That sounds irrelevant to whatever weapon someone else is using though.
If something is good enough for you to complain about it, what's keeping you from switching over to it?
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>>130384369
Paying the ferryman.
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>>130384227
The fc's been pretty tame tonight in terms of skill shittery. Most of the skl builds I've fought were using things like the cane, churck pick, etc. The saifshitters have mostly been arcfags. Haven't even met a single rakuyo tonight, for once.
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>>130383837
2:4 now.
>>130383941
I'm using the P I C K against him.
I have as a way to fight people I like without being a shitter.
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When this general became a pvp party club?
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>>130384167
You're welcome, thanks for announcing my cringeworthy psn too.
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>>130384434
Oh, that explains the bow too

Oh I get it, since carlia uses the burial blade
Haha
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>>130384440
As long as I don't run into a papered Rakuyo, I'll consider the night successful. Saif is kinda eh, but bearable.

>>130384457
>2:4
I'll change that.
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Man Byron, I've just been shitting up our last few fights together. GG.
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>>130384620
Hey man mines no better so its all good. I do appreciate it. That boss wasn't nearly as hard as logarius or Maria IMO.
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>>130372813
favorite letsplay? don't have a ps4, wanna watch someone's blind play through.
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>>130384579
every saturday
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>>130384681
Hey, I've seen you at your best, man, you're scary.

I gotta say, I do appreciate your dedication to your character.
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>>130384787
go away
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Shout's out to the lady with the steak dinner.
You're doing us Powder Kegs proud.
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>>130384959
Heh, me and her had like 10 fights in a row. Whirli vs Steak Dinner
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What are even the best gems for the stake? Is it just generic 27s and a heavy abyssal?
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>>130385167
yes
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>>130384878
Awh, you flatter me.
And you only say I have dedication because you haven't seen me throw on an Ardeo when I see my adversary in one.
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>>130385190
Alright, thanks.
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Welp, wasn't expecting that ending Skinner.
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Requesting that "is your opponent's stupidity viable" image with the stake driver.
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>Rekt instantly by a Boomhammer.
I just couldn't dash out of it man. or maybe i'm just bad.
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>>130385398
That was me I think. Wilhelm.
I usually am able to catch people really well with a primed dash>R1 for some reason. I'm not sure why.

Also, I really like your character. His face is really well done.
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Hey, Skinner, you wear the decorative trousers out of superstition, yeah?

'Cause I do because I'm an old man and need a leg brace.
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That silver sword powered by shadowy moonlight was through your face Elizabeth. GG anyway.
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>BMA Repeater on a BLT build

Pls no
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>>130385932
My legs fucked too, that cleric beast put up a fight.
>>130385696
That was a hell of a way to score a point man.
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Nice one, Kassidy. I got really panicked there.
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>>130386169
3 to 4 now. I feel bad for shooting a cannon at a man with a fucked leg though.
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>>130384724
We 3v1'd him, I'd say he's way harder solo.
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I am going to make arcane second try build.
Does church pick get the serrated/thrust bonuses even in arcane mode?
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