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Street Sweeper a shit edition

>Extremely In-Depth Guide on the Mechanics of PAYDAY 2
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=267214370

>Skill/Weapon Stat Calculator:
http://www.pd2skills.com/

>Skilltree Guide (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/nUXjB3J.png

>Perk Deck Guide:
http://i.imgur.com/E6x18Bt.png

>Stat Ranking and Breakpoints (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/TY14uav.png

>Weapon/Armor/Damage/Pickup Spreadsheets (not up to date):
http://pastebin.com/dSyuTzdt

>Big Oil Engine Calculator:
http://payday2skills.ru/bigoil.html

>PAYDAY Wiki:
http://payday.wikia.com/wiki/PAYDAY_2

>Latest Updates Here:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620

>Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/itfeelslikesomethingsintheair

>Mods and Lua:
http://pastebin.com/E3m0uKKn

>Daily Dose
http://www.overkillsoftware.com/games/goat/
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please help me guys please I've been trying all day to beat the goat heists on hard mode and I just can't do it I need your help /pdg/

steamcommunity.com/id/akillerbee
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second for Hoxton > houston
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How long before Overkill fixes these crashing bugs
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Left or right ?
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GAYME MECHANICS
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>ghost tree is useless
>tech tree is useless
Why even make 5 trees if you only want to have 3 of them to be viable
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>>128744512
Ghost has mandatory Fast Hands, Sprinter, and Shinobi Aced. Tech has literally nothing.
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>>128744545
>I like waiting on drills
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>>128744545
> Shinobi Aced
> Mandatory
> When hidden blade exists and is the only non-shit way to get run and gun
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>>128744597
>I don't know how to kill cops for 20 seconds.
>>128744671
Shinobi basic I mean. You shouldn't even bother with it aced in a loud build anyways.
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>>128744731
That's about the dumbest retort you could have possibly made. Fucking dodgefags
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>>128743726
>2016,
>surgeon's sight and the speculator's one still have a concealment penalty,

Overkill confirmed for hating fun.
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>>128744545
Nerves of steel and snap zoom skill is pretty good though.
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>>128744512
>implying the ghost skill tree isn't viable for stealth,
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>mfw driving by accident into the crowd near the accident at the beginning of Goat Day one,

Also is it only me or the truck is bugged as fuck ? Kept clipping to the ground to the point of having to restart because i couldn't secure goats.
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>getting down by a goat is actually possible,
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>>128744731
>he isn't capable to take all the shortcuts possible while still being able to kill everything on sight.

Daily reminder that techforcer is the most balanced build in this game.
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>Hoxton's breakout day 2 ending.
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>>128744671
Hidden blade is literally useless if you don't run concealment. At least with daredevil you can climb ladders slightly faster.
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>>128744545
Tech has nerves of steel, drill skills are Nice to have as well. Too bad there is no real justification to climb all the way to bulletproof.
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>>128749753
>Hidden blade is literally useless if you don't run concealment.
>he doesn't like to accidentally stealth UK job or Diamond Store when playing with pubbies,
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>Get to the end of a heist
>Game closes itself

every fucking time since the update
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Recently got back into the game, and I'm finding the newest version of goonmod's old gagecoin cost values do nothing. Where do I find the new values to edit the amount of gagecoins things cost?
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>>128752982
>cheating on a cheat ever,
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>>128750609
Who the hell even starts those jobs with the intention of going loud? Solo stealth or ECM rush I can understand at least
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>>128754445
Big Oil.
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>>128754445
>agree with pubbies to go loud on Jewelry store Ovk,
>melee the guard on the back without alerting anyone,
>we finally decide go full "fuck it" and just lockpick the windows and harass the customers because of the lack of security apart from the two cops at the donut stand,
>mfw we finish the heist stealthly with an ICTV on and loud AR,
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>there are people who are so triggered by the goat simulator aspect they can't even appreciate this recent heist,

Just admit at least the driving part on day 2 was fun,
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>hey you, get on your feet
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>Nova's weapon mods don't drop at all for the moment,
>devs will only throw a fix this next monday,

For a collaboration dlc planned since six months, that's really some shitty work Overkill.
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>>128759245
>driving in this game
>fun
It's cancer
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>>128768529
have fun walking then ;)
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>>128769050
I'll take a cab
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>>128768529
>all those people talking about meta weapons who still don't realize the car has the best damage against special units,

running over a dozer is always satisfying
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>>128770125
Forklift on meltdown

It's raining tan
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>>128770125
I've been wondering...

Is it possible to instakill Winters and his crew with the car?
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>>128770696
Should be but captain pussy just never spawn on maps with cars and such. Would be interesting to see considering how he's supposed to be invincible for plot reasons.
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>>128770939
He spawns on Goat Sim tho
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>>128770696
On the goat heist they protected him with poles, so I'm guessing the car would wreck them like any other npc
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>>128771042
>car proof poles

aw well, that sucks
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>>128770939
You would probably bounce off of him
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I haven't upodated the game yet, did fucking overkill added a goat sim heist?

this is a new low.
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>>128773957
Did you actually see the heist?
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>>128773957
Can't wait for the I Am Bread heist.
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>>128773957
The heist itself is okay tho
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>>128773957
>did fucking overkill added a hotline miami heist? this is a new low.
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>that feel when believing that the farmer miserable achievement would take more than an hour just like the Big oil one but it end up taking only half of the time, being finished in 40 minutes.

Feels good man.
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>>128777119
How many goats do you have to secure on overkill?
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>>128777257
13, I think.
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>>128752982
Goonmod is disabled for now, but it's steamapps\common\PAYDAY 2\mods\GoonMod\mods.
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>>128773957
>new low
>new

ur trying to b8, aren't you
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>Dallas mains
newbies and shitters, use dual pistols
>Wolf mains
Solid, dependable, but not extraordinary
>Chains mains
Best guy in the crew
>Houston mains
Memers but decent
>Hoxton mains
Not very interested in the game and/or memers
>Wick mains
Think they're cool; are actually 14. Not very good.
>Clover mains
Attentionwhores, killwhores, leave at the first sight of trouble
>Dragan mains
This player does not exist.
>Jacket mains
If they're wearing an animal mask or Biker, they're second only to the Chains main. If they wear anything else, they're trash.
>Bonnie mains
Pretty decent but with a splash of memer.
>Sokol mains
Pretty good, team players.
>Jiro mains
Very probably weeb, says nothing, pretty alright. Dedicated inspireslut.
>Bohdi mains
I-III infamy players who think they're hot shit, spend 20% of the game on the ground.
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>>128777880
>shitting on Dallas mains

fuck you, I play him because he's a classic character
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>>128777880
But what if you get a roleplayer, like absolutely psychotic Wolf?
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>>128777880
>>Dragan mains
>This player does not exist.
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Join the group chta if you want to do Farmer Miserable already did day 1
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Isn't this game dead yet?
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>>128777880
>used to main Wolf since PD:TH
>pub a lot since my group can't always play at the same time, rely on in-game callouts
>no new voice lines since summer '14
>holding out for Ulf to update lines
>switch to Sokol because he was up to date with all of the lines at the time
>they announce that Ulf never coming back
>tfw when no new Wolf lines never EVER
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>>128777880
>main clover
>but I'm a techforcer
>get pissed that half the time I don't get to play her because faggot dodgefag who get downed and insta-leave.
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>>128779476
no, fuck off shit b8
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>>128774106
>tfw the promo video for it has the characters as annoyed with the heist as the fanbase was
like pottery
Really though, yeah the heist itself if pretty good.
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Have they fixed the crashing issue so many people have been having?
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>>128783129
>>tfw the promo video for it has the characters as annoyed with the heist as the fanbase was
I really can't place what are you trying to say here. Why the fuck wouldn't they be annoyed? For them, it's like Watchdogs all over again but with living, screaming and running bags.
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>>128777880
>implying the Dragan players aren't the chill and cool ones who've seen everything and just want to have fun,
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>>128783618
Not yet, devs need their weekend and their payday too. They should release the fixes on monday or tuesday.
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>closed the game
>just bought GGC
>enter the game
>Bodhi safe in my inventory out of nowhere
what the fuck, Overkill?
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>>128785537
it sometimes happens after the end of a job, on the card screen. You're supposed to get a specific one but steam still decide you're worthy to get it.
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>goat heist dw
>6 minutes in
>3/4 of the people are in the apartment puting out the fire
>shitter is by scaffolding on the second end of the map in the middle of assault
>"help"
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>>128784986
I feel like you're talking about yourself
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So are the goats alive or not they seem pretty lively in day 1
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>>128787363
they make noises so one can guess they're alive.
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what's so bad about akimbo
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>>128788718
Why would you have that image saves on your pc
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>>128788718
Lots of investments for meh/mitigated results.

Your average grinderfag deserves better than this.
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>>128789089
>Grinderfags deserving anything other than cumfilled shit pies.
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>>128789089
but i was having fun with it
what would be a better investment
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>>128789640
GL40 is fun and meta at the same time but the Mosconi or AR can be good choices too. Nothing wrong with having fun with akimbo though, it's just that in some builds, those four points added in something else can make the difference.
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>mfw hearing Vlad spelling "goat" in the trailer,
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>>128790269
Hm, I don't like playing with grenade launchers that much

Is deathwish doable with akimbo or do I really need something more efficient if I don't want to be nothing but a hindrance to my team?
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>>128792294
>Is deathwish doable with akimbo,

If you know what you're doing and with at least equilibrium aced, you should be fine, even with the bernettis,
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Anyone want to do Nostalgia?
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>>128793294
yeah sure, in the chat?
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>>128793294
What is this
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>>128790269
light crossbow HE is just better than gl40 in every way: faster reload, more ammo, more accurate, faster projectile and more concealable.
Gl40 has bigger AoE (maybe) but not by much and it pretty much never helps.
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>>128793707
>Light cross bow HE
Fuck off you terrible memer
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>>128793678
Doing Firestarter with just the AMCAR, Chimano 88, and suit (I think the armor bag needs to be used as well)

Its the monthly job currently
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>>128793707
HE Rounds range is set to 2 meters, Grenades from a launcher are 3.4. It's actually pretty damn noticeable and the grenade launchers have stupid high ammo pickup.

The only real advantage I can think of for HE weapons over an actual Grenade Launcher is that they can crit, M79/M32 can't crit.
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>>128793294
Easily soloable.
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>>128788718
they're alright but the main appeal comes not from having a good primary but from going akimbo and doing sick-ass Max Payne jumps.
the game is piss-easy now, have fun with your builds.
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>>128794563
Im sure it is but I figure why not ask if anyone else wants to play the videogame

Speaking of, we need one more
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>>128794703
I'd be up for it, but the GOAT DLC broke my Payday.

;(
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>>128794703
Shit, guess i'm too late.
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>>128794024
All the ammo you would pick up the crossbow has already got at the start of the heist because of the vastly bigger ammo pool.
It is also better at quickly killing multiple shields of any size and stunning bulldozers.
2m is quite enough for clearing groups and has saved me hostages when a bigger blast would've killed them.

So I stand by me that it's better than the grenade launchers but you're entitled to your own opinion.
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>>128777880
>My preferred 4 switches between Chains, Sokol, Houston and Jacket depending on what build I want to use
>Only use Tony's Revenge if I'm playing Jacket

I can live with this list
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>>128784825
Two, their covered in shit.
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TACKY ASS 80'S DESIGN BEST DESIGN
I LIKE MY NES
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A E S T H I C
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>>128800315
I fucked your mother
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>>128800620
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>>128800785
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Did they added barrel/stock to card drops for new shotgun already?
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>>128801881
I think so, people were saying you could get them from side job rewards so I'd imagine
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>spent money on this because I thought it looked cool
>The Judge is better
Just kike my shit up.
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>>128803329
How much
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>>128803458
like 8 something.
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>>128803112
Did 2 side jobs yesterday, got 2 of those huge metal silencers (i'm bad with names) in a row.
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>>128801881
>>128803654
GOON MOD you shitters
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>>128804536
>Promoting being a shitter and a cheater
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>>128803329
>buying skins
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R8 my Corey mask guys.
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>>128800087
>>128800315
>>128800620
>>128800785
>>128801005
really nigga?
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>>128801881
Two days, keep those helmets flying ;)
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>>128804838
>being such a poorfag you can't buy a skin.
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>>128804536
>Using mods
Nigga, if i wanted to be spoonfed i would call your mom.
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>>128805725
I think you might like this game more
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>>128799245
>>128784825
>crew try to quietly get all the goats in the trailer, without carrying any weapons,
>streets are crawling with cops in-game with choppers and even captain fucking winter.

Guess they must have cut the parts of the trailer where the crew were genociding the cops while handling the crashes and other bugs.
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>>128805725
Why buying a skin when you can get them all for free with skin unlocker ? And it wouldn't be in battle-worn condition for sure.
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>>128806503
Does it trigger the "cheater" warning?
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>>128803329
>spent money
>On Overshill.
Just give it all to me goy I'll spend it better then they would.
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>>128806224
Actually, if you crouch immediately after spawning with your detection low enough you can slip away from the initial scene and get maybe 10-15 seconds of stealth in before the cops automatically get alerted.
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>>128807004
>>128806503
>>128806183
>The classic excuses poorfags make.
One day you'll get off autismbux and realize 10 dollars isn't anything to fret about.
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>>128807841
Can you buy me the new DLC?
/id/akillerbee/
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>>128808089
My disposable income isn't a charity fuckstick.
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>want to play the game
>it crashes, without fail before I can finish any mission
>it's a problem afflicting many people
>Overkill can't be assed to fix it in a timely manner
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>>128806793
It doesn't.
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>>128807841
>hurr I waste money on useless shit and support kikery, fucking poorfags
really now? actually nevermind, keep going goy
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>>128809889
I will poorfag.
Enjoy being pennyless and making excuses for it.
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Any good stealth missions? Getting sick of running shadow raid over and over.
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>>128811894
Any of them. Stealth missions that you can't just ECM rush are the pinnacle of challenge in this game
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>>128811894
diamond?
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>>128811894
Election Day warehouse is pretty fun in co-op when you and your friend enter from opposite sides.
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>>128812492
>Stealth
>Co op
The desync in this game ruins it. You should only solo stealth and if you have to bring people then only the host should be in risky areas.
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>>128805174
Post your masks then.
Also that was more than one person
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>>128812813
Git gud maybe? Desync is an issue, yes, but it's nowhere near game-breaking. I often stealth with my friend and it works just fine, both of us do objectives.
If desync's so bad on your side I'd suggest using Pocohud's desync resolver, it kinda helps.
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>>128813859
>but it's nowhere near game-breaking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeGxXp0nbAs
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>>128814174
>straight running instead of shift-jump-crouch
It's also an extreme case of desync (or just a dumb bug because game's full of them), shit like this never happened to me when I stealthed in co-op. Detection meter instantly filling up to 99%, yes, that happened a lot, but not this.
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>>128815236
>Never happened to me so it isn't real Overkill's netcode is fine
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>>128815612
Nigga, I'm not saying it's fine, netcode is fucking shit, but it's still playable with a friend unless you live on opposite sides of the planet.
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>>128814174
To be fair, that guy was retarded.

You never open that door because that opens up pathing for guards and civ to go through that door and that sewer grate is supposed to be your safe haven while you're lugging the Artifact.
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>>128777880
>Hoxton mains
>Not very interested in the game and/or memers

what bollocks
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>>128809190
ive had this prrblem all day, i kinda assumed people with mods were causing it because when i solo stealthed some heists my game didnt crash
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>>128818962
>Opening a door has something to do with the games netcode being worse than web browser MMOs.
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Bronco, Baby freedom, or Deagle

AND WHY
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>>128807841
You're missing the fucking point. I have money too, but it's Overkill.
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>>128821562
Deagle.
Slap a silencer on it and clear all break points with silent killer
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>>128821692
>I refuse to support the company of the game I like because they gave me the option to support them with cosmetic items
No. You're just an idiotic faggot, plain and simple.
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>>128821562
I like the deagle with marksman sight, ext mag and bling grip. Concealment is high enough, it beats the baby deagle in mag size, acc and stab and it sounds great. The bronco is more stylish and slightly more powerful, but I cant say no to 10 more rounds
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WHEN THE FUCK IS DOING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE CRASHING
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>>128821692
>Biting the hook.
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>>128822275
Every time some one brings this generals sperg behavior into question isn't b8.
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>>128821562
Beagle>Bronco>Deagle personally.
>>128822229
Maybe on Monday. Overkill's not working on the weekend. We need our Payday too ;)
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>>128821920
>Result to name-calling because he's right
Yeah, I know.
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>>128821692
the "I hate Overkill" meme is getting a little stale tbqh
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>>128823080
Its because he is wrong, if you are a fag that can't afford .03 cents for a skin most of them being ugly as fuck and then you end whining about, well then you got a problem

JOCELINE SKIN WHEN
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>>128823080
There's nothing else to say, because I am right. If you hate the game and hate the company why are you even here? Ebin memes?
Get over yourself.
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>>128823236
>>128823245
No, no. YOU can keep spending money, that's fine. I'm just saying I won't, which is equally fine.
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>>128822785
>Maybe on Monday. Overkill's not working on the weekend.
Not that i have something against it, but they fucking know that there is a fuck ton of bugs after every update. They could have had day off later.
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>>128823313
Man, did I ever say I hated the game? No. I don't like Overkill. Quit trying to argue so hard.
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>>128811894
Dockyard, Golden Grin Casino and First World Bank are the most fun. The last two mostly because you can do them really fast once you are familiar with them. Dockyard is just great on death wish because there are lots of guards and civilians but also lots of nooks and crannies. The location of keycards, computers and radios differs so much that you almost always go all across the map to get to them. It's one of those heists you will have to restart more often, but I don't mind trying it again. Getting a lot of extra loot is a real sport.
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>>128823551
>No. I don't like Overkill
Why? Because they made optional micro transactions?
Crimefest and all that bullshit is the only reason people ever give, so yeah, that just sounds like poorfag whining.
Again, get over yourself.
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>>128823936
Again, why defend a company that doesn't care about you at all? I just said here >>128823416
that you can keep spending you money. That's what you want to do with your money. I personally don't want to, so I won't. Neither decision is objectively right; it's just subjective. And again, quit feeding the argument and let it die.
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>>128824131
>Doesn't care about you at all
Nice. Fucking. Meme. Retard.
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>>128824298
>Reads first sentence; disregards everything else.
You win. Now will you shut up?
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>>128824513
That spaghetti dropping and pathetic attempt at diplomacy isn't worth responding too.
And no, admit you're a poorfag retard, and then yes, I will.
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>>128697751
>>128697903
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- I Knew What I Was Doing Was Wrong (i_knew_what_i_was_doing_was_wrong)
- Yeah He's A Gold Digger (yeah_hes_a_gold_digger)

Remember that today's the last night to do the weekly side job for an Infamous quality The Grin mask!

Keep those helmets flying! ;)
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>>128824867
Love too. If only the game would stop crashing.
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>>128825112
git a better computer
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>>128825806
Are you really unaware that since the goat sim day 3 random crashes are a problem effecting a large % of the player base?
Or are you just in a rush to say some idiotic meme?
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>>128825972
haven't crashed once tb.h
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>>128826214
Start playing the fucking game then
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>>128826534
I will ;)

Too bad you can't, thanks to your shitty computer.
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>>128825972
It's just the Overdrone shitposter that's been trying to act like their netcode isn't shit, their skins are worth buying, and etc etc.
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I was doing some calculations to determine the ammo efficiency of assault rifles, basically total amount of ammo vs. amount of headshots to kill common enemies (in this case, grey guys and tan guys on DW). I also factored in the damage boost from Underdog, since that's working most of the time.

There was a tie for the highest ammo efficiency. The first was the M308, with an efficiency rating of 70:
(( 70 / 1 ) + ( 70 / 1 )) / 2 = 70

The second was any 240 round, 40+ damage AR, but I focused specifically on the Clarion. It also had a rating of 70. Interestingly, it (and other ARs like it) could potentially be higher since they are more easily concealable, and thus are good candidates for Low Blow crits:
(( 240 / 4 ) + ( 240 / 3 )) / 2 = 70

Anything inbetween, like the 150 rounders or the 90 rounders with 80+ damage, had less ammo efficiency, Underdog boost or not.
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>>128827480
All I see is

(( bullshit / bullshit ) + ( bullshit / 1 )) / bullshit = unexplained number out of my ass
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>>128828082
I only see nerd shit, probably a fucking tryhard
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>>128828082
It's (( total number of rounds / headshots to kill tan cop ) + ( total number of rounds / headshots to kill grey cop )) / 2 = final value.
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>>128828128
I want to hear him out but he doesn't actually explain his thought process or anything.

He's worse than a tryhard. He's a clueless theorycrafter.
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>>128828230
So your "efficiency rating" is "how many cops I can kill without ammo pickups". Definitely bullshit then.

What kind of ammo efficiency math doesn't even account for ammo pickups? I bet you shoot at street cops from the Rats 2nd floor and complain you don't have enough ammo to cook 7 bags.

>Wow, the M308 is so ammo efficient because it can kill the most cops if you magdump it
>And 240 round ARs
>This is such an amazing discovery!
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>>128828624
It's just supposed to be a raw ammo efficiency value, dude. Not an overarching summary of how good a weapon is or is not in a certain situation.
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>>128828624
If you're not shit and can aim, with silent killer you can one shit any enemy in the game save dozers with the M308.
Then again Silent Killer and Break Points are just memes.
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>>128828230
>>128828786
That's average number of cops killed per magazine, not efficiency.

"Efficiency" is a technical term.

Efficiency = Output / Input

If it's less than 1, it's inefficient. If it's equal to 1 or greater, it's good. You learn this shit in basic high school science classes.

So if you want to rate ammo efficiency, you would divide the number of bullets you spend to kill a cop, and then divide it by how much ammo you get on average (since the range is 2%-5% I think, 3.5% ammo pickup rate sounds like a good average).

Don't try to make things up without justification, and don't use words that you don't know the meaning of.
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>>128829158
>you would divide the number of bullets you spend to kill a cop, and then divide it by how much ammo you get on average

Whoops, I got that upside down. It's

ammo efficiency = (ammo pickup) / (ammo spent)
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>>128829158
>>128829280
>muh ammo pickup

You know that shit got boosted in the recent update, right? You know it's totally negligible if you actually know how to aim, right? You know the 240 rounds have obscene ammo pickup anyway, don't you? You're probably the type who uses up all the ammo pickups and ammo bags and then complains about running low, even though all you brought were FAKs.
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>Trying to unlock mods for the gewehr
>Trying to kill dozers
>Break the visors
>Some akimbo dodgefag runs in at the last second to steal the kill
>every fucking time.
I'd have at achievement 10 times over if people would stop doing this fucking shit.
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>>128829561
I don't give a shit what you think about game balance or how you think I play.

He (or you, I can't tell) incorrectly called it "ammo efficiency". That's all that matters.

If you're going to theorycraft and throw random bullshit numbers around, at least get it right.
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>>128829782
Lab Rats you stupid
>Can't kill a dozer by itself
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>>128829782
Restart meltdown offline for the dozer in the container. It's fast and easy.
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>>128829897
>Can't kill a dozer by itself
>Missed the point to meme.
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>>128829956
I always forget about that. Thanks.
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>>128830137
It's also dependson difficulty what kind of dozer you going to get - black on overkill, skull on dw for that golden AK kills.
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>>128829863
>using the wrong word is all that matters
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>>128830408
Kind of dozer doesn't matter, just need 25 of any kind of dozer.
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>>128830515
Different achievments, kill 6 skulldozzers with golden AK, kill black dozzer with the great sword, have 10 arrows in 1 dozer at the same time and some others.
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tank vehicle when?
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>>128831359
Only if getting it is hard to do requires team work to pull off.
Like you need c4, an ECM, and a saw to pull it off.
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>>128831359
armored truck when? breaking fort knox when?
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>>128831656
>armored truck when?
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>>128832114
armored truck you can drive.
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>>128832114
I think he meant something more like driving armor transports than breaking into armor trucks you rob.
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>>128832215
>you rob
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>>128832316
rib rob fib fob stip stob gib gob bib bob.
Faggot.
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>>128832427
>rib rob fib fob stip stob gib gob bib bob.
dyh usujfyh hbswisu jshjygdfi ushfu usfhh bu.
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Hey who's up for some heists?

id/YEAH
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Fuck, missed one.
>>128830430
Yes. This is how the real world works.

You use a word wrong and you present the wrong equation(s), somebody reading your results about how the M308 and the Clarion were the most "ammo efficient" guns in the game is going to call you out on your bullshit.

Getting mad and calling me names and saying something about wasting ammo because I have FAKs(?) doesn't change the fact that you're wrong.

And then when you're proven wrong, you apologise and issue a retraction / correction so people can actually understand what you were originally talking about. Here, since I'm real nice so I'll do it for you:

>I was doing some calculations to determine how many cops you can kill with assault rifles without ammo bags/pickups, basically total amount of ammo vs. amount of headshots to kill common enemies (in this case, grey swats and tans on DW). I also factored in the damage boost from Underdog Basic, since that's working most of the time.

>There was a tie for the highest potential kill counts. The first was the M308, with a kill count potential of:
>(( 70 / 1 ) + ( 70 / 1 )) / 2 = 70 cops for 70 bullets

>The second was any 240 round, 40+ damage AR, but I focused specifically on the Clarion. It also had a kill count of 70. Interestingly, it (and other ARs like it) could potentially be higher since they are more easily concealable, and thus are good candidates for Low Blow crits:
>(( 240 / 4 ) + ( 240 / 3 )) / 2 = 70 cops for 240 bullets

>Anything inbetween, like the 150 rounders or the 90 rounders with 80+ damage, had lower potential kill counts, Underdog boost or not.

That wasn't so hard, was it?

Now we wait for somebody to post "Wow, it's fucking nothing!" and greentext
>pointless autistic theorycrafting
like usual.
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>>128832587
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>>128833465
What the fuck is SRUUGUOU?
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>>128834042
Nothing. Its all I could remember of morse from 3rd grade.
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>>128834192
--. .. - / --. ..- -..
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>>128825972
Good to know it's not only my problem. There have been a lot of crashes since today and I wanted to look over here for some help.
>>
CRASHING
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Why did wolf's VA cut ties with overkill?
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>>128839926
Juden.
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>>128840179
You're going to have to elaborate on that
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http://strawpoll.me/6562327
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>>128842073
>Do you play with or without mods
>Yes
>No
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>>128842073
>with or without
>yes, no
You fucked up.
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>>128840940
The full story is much longer than that. You see, Overkill was founded by Bo and Ulf Andersson, two bothers. After the mild success of Payday: The Heist they were bought out by Starbreeze, a relatively small publisher, and work on Payday 2 began. However, a new employee at Overkill also working on Payday 2 was David Goldfarb, the jew. Now this is where I need to go off topic a bit to explain something.

Swedes have no inhibitions. They don't know when to stop at something. They began embracing multiculturalism and the country turned into a cucktry. They began embracing feminism and now "manspreading" is illegal on public transportation. If you teach a swede to hold his breath and swim underwater, he'll dive into the ocean and never return. Goldfarb was not aware of this.

Goldfarb began teaching Overkill the ways of the jew, preorder incentives, grinding to keep people hooked, DLC weapon packs galore, but David was a smart jew. He knew that if you jew the goy too much they start to catch on, but Bo, being a Swede, could not stop himself.

Soon Overkill began a violent transformation, nickel and diming was everywhere, monthly paid DLC packs, after a while even Goldfarb was disgusted by the development and left. Bo's brother Ulf however had the restraint gene which is rare among Swedes, so he didn't agree with this change in tactics. Eventually, Bo became so jewish that he killed the CEO of Starbreeze and declared himself the new CEO, stating that his name is now Bo Anderssonburg. Ulf, saddened by the loss of his brother, continued to work on Payday 2 for as long as he could bear, until finally he could no longer stand to be a jewish puppet, and left.

Ulf was Wolf's voice actor. So that's why Wolf has no voice now.
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>>128842917
2meme4me
>>
>heisting
>suggest keeping gold bags in between two possible escape points
>heister move bags early
>move bags back to center
>helicopter spawns on his side

i didn't mean to cuck you anon please forgive me
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>>128839926
Nobody know the full story but it seems that Wolf's actor had somekind of depression or mental issues that were really harsh to him, although not to the point of making him crazy or anything.

As much as he loves his wolf character, doing lines seemed to be a lot for him (finding the right intonations and such) so he needed to stay away from this.

The whole story should be explained in an interview he had with TCN on twitch.
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>>128844715
>Overdrones literally trying to play it off as if he was just depressed and mentally damaged.
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>>128844715
Seems more plausible than
>>128842917
If such the case, all the best to him
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>>128844898
Never said he was a retard or mentally challenged, having some bad phases happens to everyone. Also found the link of the interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOcd531nqkI
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>>128845174
Ulf literally went straight out of Overkill into working at his new gig at 10 Chambers. He isn't depressed. Although he might've been working with a bunch of greedy jews killing the game he built.
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Does reporting people on steam does shit?
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>>128846067
It does shit.
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>>128846067
They might get banned from the official Overkill Cocksucker Steam group. Which has no downsides that wouldn't be rectified by using the DLC unlocker the cheater was already using since that's the only thing Overkills "anti-cheat" detects.
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>>128846240
They lose access to the community shit I think
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>>128846462
Yes, which you gain access to with the DLC unlocker. So it does nothing.
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>>128839926

>>128842917
>>128844715
>>128845174

Also, Ulf severely damaged his vocal chords when trying to record lines for wolf. The character involves quite a lot of screaming, and he simply couldn't handle the physical stress it tolled on his throat.

I believe he even had to go to the hospital at one point.
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>killed about 8 jumping cloakers with the GL40
>No credit for the achieve
Fuck you game.
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>>128846936
I got it on four stores in the convenience store. The jump from next to the ATM to just in front of the register is very consistent. If the cloaker happens to just miss you, kill him asap. Killing him right after sometimes counts as well.
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>>128846936
>spent 2 hours on the goat throwing achievement because of the low quality pc making things ten times harder,

Never again,
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>>128849065
>tfw that's the only achievement of the DLC that I have because of all that fucking crashing
It was easy

THE PROBLEM IS SEEING RETARDS TRYING TO GET IT INSTEAD OF MOVING THE FUCKING GOATS
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>"If you don't have at least one KC saved for the last door of day 2 I'm kicking all of you"-host
>in OVK difficulty
>He's infamy 25 with who is aced in every skill in every tree.
>He gets downed in the lobby
>Cheating in this game
>cheating and still being shit at this game
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>>128849384
How many hours in the game, I just found 2 fucking cheaters and shitters today, in the same fucking lobby, both with all the skills
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>Gewehr looks so good.
>Can't make it "perfect" like I can with the Heavy Eagle.
Damn shame
I mean 88 acc and 100 stab for all intents and purposes is perfect
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>>128852019
>that sight,

speculator strong in the safehouse
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>>128853382
What's wrong with the holo sight man?
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>>128853714
weird and kinda ugly.
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>>128853917
You mom's weird and kinda ugly.
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Is it safe to say the Dragonlord skin is the best legendary skin ?
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>>128854050
All legendary are shit
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>>128854050
>that quality
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>tfw buy cheap as shit weapon skins just to get your wallet to 0.00
Good feel
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>>128854402
Is entertaining heisting with the weapons whose skins I have
>0.15 cents
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>>128854402
>he uses the plainsrider bow
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>>128855918
>implying that's one only sub 20 cent skin in the market place.
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Is there any actual "meta" for crews?
Like a rifle, techforcer, run fast faggat to grab shit real fast, etc, etc
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>>128857974
The only real meta crew would be a techforcer dedicated to the saw/c4 and maybe the expert driver asset to make everything shorter as possible, the rest being inspire guys covering the asses of everyone but that's an extreme scenario.
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>>128859198
I have all that shit checked on my build except the saw
>Can unlock all the assets
>Have C4
>Max drill update Silent a shit, of cours that I don't have this
>Fucking Inspire Aced
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>>128857974
4 grinders with inspire medbags aced and swan song
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>>128859367
>implying that silent drill basic isn't a nice compromise for your ears and getting to the tier 5 of the technician skill tree.
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>>128862452
>not coupling swan song with pistol messiah aced and the baby deagle to be unstoppable.
>>
What's the last heist where you could use breaching charges from Technician's tree to advance?
What about saws?
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