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> News
- Cloud Strife from Final Fantasy VII is now available as a downloadable fighter.
- Corrin from Fire Emblem Fates is set to arrive as a downloadable fighter sometime in February.
- Bayonetta is set to arrive as a downloadable fighter sometime in February.

> Resources and Guides
http://pastebin.com/TD8zsDJ1

Last thread: >>128681108
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anime
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>>128727537
>still no discord link
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>>128727603
Put it in the Pastebin
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>>128727597
S E K K O B O Y S SEKKO
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>>128727661
>tfw you enjoy vaporwave
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nth for peach
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>>128727537
Why does she look like a Maplestory character?
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VIVA MEXICO PUTOS!
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best anime swordsman reporting in
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RANAI VS MKLEO RIGHT NOW
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>>128727892
Best man reporting in :3c
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Peach is...


Cute...?
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>>128727809
>Posting inferior girl
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Meta Knight is balanced!
Balanced!
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>killed by the bomb
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>>128728398
Yes.
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>>128727603
https://discord.gg/0kREIgTgrgJpcCCV
ask and you shall receive
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ABADANGO BTFO

META KNIGHT MAINS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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OH SHIT
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>Ranai is in

welp, fun's over
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nice taunt, there
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Is it just my third world internet or the stream is in PP mode?
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God bless Sakurai for at least having the decency to give Roy a shitton of aerial speed after his upB.
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HOLY FUCK
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RANAI BTFO
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GAME AND WATCH CONFIRMED TOP FUCKING 10
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Hey guys, Pearl here.

Sorry that the genesis stream wasn't in the synchtube. It's there now (here's the retarded paste bin link: http://pastebin.com/Qjf4ngfJ)

Hope you guys enjoy!

by the way you should all kill yourselves, especially the furfags.
I am never posting here AGAIN
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Now I understand why Japan thinks Ness is mediocre.
Their edguarding game is godlike, these chinks go in HARD offstage, and Ness is practically giving you a free edgeguard.
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L O W T I E R
O
W

T
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I came buckets.
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>>128729183
It's been like that all night, anon.
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>Sonic

gg mexishits
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So I just got SSBWU, including the Wii U, and I'm by no means a tourneyfag, I couldn't name a single pro player of any era. But my point here is, I've been playing a lot of Samus and I'm doing quite well. She feels very strong, not top 10 strong but pretty damn good. Then I decided to look online at what other people thought. She's in the bottom 5 of every list I could find. Nobody will elaborate why, all I can seem to get from people is "Dude lol she has HUGE problems...". Can anybody elaborate?
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>>128729482
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7CewcWnKs8
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>>128729482
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7CewcWnKs8
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I WANT TO BELIEVE
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>implying SoCal won't stomp on whoever wins this round anyway
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Sonic is fucking shit in crew battles.
Why is this allowed?
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Last game for me
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>>128729482
Oh boy a casual player trying to start a discussion about tiers, this will surely be a great and knowledgeable experience for everyone involved
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>>128729582
reminder that sakurai claimed that samus was the best character in the game in the early builds

the only way to reliably kill someone as samus is to charge shot them, do it always
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>down tilt turns into a down smash
>game freezes as the up tilt turns into GAME
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Please take at least one stock from this chink, please
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>people saying Seagull Joe is the best Sonic in the world

Pfffffft.
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It's okay Regi, it happens to all of us
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>THIS FUCKING SONIC

Dear fucking god. I feel bad for Regi.
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>>128729809
It was the E3 build which everyone who went said samus was unchanged for the most part.
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Is the G&W mu vs sonic this bad?
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>>128729852
But anon, everyone else is too bad
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>>128729809
Dash attack can kill from about 180%
I know from experience

>>128729482
To be as succinct as I can, she has terrible and weird hitboxes, far too many sourspots, and low kill potential and I love playing her.
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>>128729762
no it wont
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>>128729975
I'm aware of this

basically either sakurai is delusional or he thinks that he can just say "samus" for "zero suit samus" because he's a dummy
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>>128730125
He meant power suit. He was surprised no one picked Samus in the invitational because he thought she was the best
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Yo Falafai
FUCK OFF AND STOP TRYING TO ENTER
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>>128730027
GnW in a vacuum is relatively strong, but he loses to Sonic and Rosa 30:70. GnW is a reactionary character with extremely few safe-on-shield buttons besides his slow U-smash, so he can neither get Sonic to sit down nor remove Luma safely. The Fox MU is similarly bad for the same reason, and altogether those three basically delete him from the character select screen.
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>yfw this shit goes to time
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jesus christ you have to have some fuckass dial-up to lag with Smash 4. I had a bunch of torrents running with a stream playing and theres never any lag for me, and my internet is mediocre.
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>>128730253
Shut the fuck up senpai
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>>128730027
Yeah, GW can upsmash to counter spindash but Komo is way too good and patient to go in without knowing he has a near guaranteed chance to get a hit. It's definitely no coincidence he picked up Cloud considering how optimized his defensive play is with Sonic.
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Do japs actually think their anime hairstyles look good?
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You know, for such a campy battle, that Sonic vs Wario was surprisingly entertaining to watch.
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>>128729582
>>128729585
Hmm... I definitely noticed those hitbox errors while playing, but I didn't want to "blame the controller".
>>128730076
Any reason they haven't fixed this stuff?
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>>128730565
tell that to wizzrobe
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>>128730721
I guess they think she's fine.
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>>128730721
>Any reason they haven't fixed this stuff?
There's good reason to believe most if not all of it was done intentionally. Because the balance team is shit
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I always knew Komoriki was the best player in japan.
He's pretty much japanese ZeRo
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>>128730806
Are there any other characters with hitbox issues? I want to know who to avoid getting attached to...
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Sorry 6WX, but Komo's Sonic makes yours look like Seagull's.
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>>128730834
>There's good reason to believe most if not all of it was done intentionally
I don't mean this as a jab at Nintendo, but dumb shit such as that seems exactly like something Nintendo would do. See: The sole purpose for blue shells in MK series is "so sometimes the weakest player can win randomly"
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>>128730923
Other one was mewtwo but I think they fixed him up, there's also DH with his smashes.
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These commentators fucking suck, stop with the memery and talk about the match
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So after Genesis, what would the tier list look like?

Here's what my top 10 looks like so far:

Sheik
ZSS
Sonic
Rosa
Diddy
Ryu
MK
Pikachu
Mario
Fox
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>>128731032
There's actually an in game tip that tells Samus's jab is garbage
>Foes can often put up their shields in between the first and second hits of this combo. It's safer to just hit with the first attack and then flee.
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>>128731254
>samus is literally hated by the game
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And people still say Dark Pit is better than Pit? kill yourself PLEASE
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>>128731231
you forgot cloud
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>>128731427
Literally no one says this
Unless they're talking about as a fuccboi
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>>128731231
>no Cloud
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>>128731427
DP's side B got buffed and kills better now
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>>128731487
>>128731512

Ok fine, I actually forgot to consider him. But if I put him in my list, I'll have to get rid of Fox, and Fox is DEFINITELY top 10.

I'll consider him number 11 for now.
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>mfw my favorite characters are never on anyone's tier list
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>>128731715
who is it?
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>>128731498
Literally noone says this except Nairo who is a top 5 player
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>>128731715
Don't worry, your favorite character is on my list.

My shitlist.
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>>128731715
>tfw not on the list
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>>128731805
N-no one I love Sheik, Sheik is love Sheik is life let's talk about something else
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fuck ICs
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>9B vs Larry

My fucking dick is erect.
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Got 3 for dubs, need one more. Anyone interested? Room's up.
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>dat gay lisp
>dat commentator

fuck this shit, I'm out
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How much money should I put on my nigga Shofu getting top 10?

I'm thinking a cool hundred. Shofu's Fox is looking CRISP!
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>>128732321
FIEND
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>>128731498
Casuals and Reddit are fully convinced Dark Pit is better cuz muh ZeRo and muh Nairo said so.
>>128731605
So? we've been over this, it's better than it was before, but Pit can still kill just as fine and has way better arrows.


Don't be fuccbois and fix your opinions already.
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>Mama Sky is in the house

Someone kill me already.
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Who is this random fat guy?
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>>128732308
Just doing the update to my smash game is about time I pick it up again.
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>score is 9-11
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>Sky
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>>128732490
noone in this known universe likes sky william
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>>128732623
Remember that time where Dunkey beat Sky?
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>>128732623
i do
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>it's a matchup of hitting and not getting hit
WEW SHOFU
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>>128732771
That's our boy shofu.
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Sky Williams shoehorned himself in the Smash community by housing numerous people in his stupid ass weenie hut.

That way he expanded his "product" which is his flamboyant gay self onto another game. I want this League of Legends trash to leave.
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>>128732863
But he played smash before LoL.
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>>128732771
Based Shofu showing the world why he should stick to Pokemon.

>>128732863
This >>128732942
if anything, tell him to stay in League of Casuals
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I'm so tired of that cuckster Hbox
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>>128732942
Ya and he only got known for being the big gay black guy in League of Legends. He did nothing for Smash until he saw that it was getting popular in 2015
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WE BACK BOYS!
META KNIGHT MAINS ON SUiCIDE WATCH
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Neat games Logan
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>ranai
THE FUN IS OVER
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Can Sky sound more biased?
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Yo anyone playing the 3ds?
I'm so rusty so you can fuck me up for free wins.
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>falln

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT

I WANTED ZERO
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>>128733340
I'll play you after Wii U crews
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Anyone else wanna play for like a half hour or so before I regret the rest of my life's choices?
>>128733197
Fuck you, guy I wanted one more game against Ryu. I have absolutely no idea how I'm supposed to get out of shield against your jab or elbow into collarbone breaker.
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>>128733406
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>>128733406
If you're shielding the utilt just drop shield and jab, collarbone breaker is slow as fuck
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I love seeing Rosa getting anal fucked like this.
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Ranai is fucking slaughtering him holy shit.
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>>128733570
i would anal FUCK rosalina
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>zero vs ranai
oh fuck here we go
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RANAI VS ZERO
>RANAI VS ZERO
RANAI VS ZERO
>RANAI VS ZERO
RANAI VS ZERO
>RANAI VS ZERO
RANAI VS ZERO
>RANAI VS ZERO
RANAI VS ZERO
>RANAI VS ZERO
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USA'S BEST VS JAPAN'S BEST
MY DICK CAN'T HANDLE THIS
LET'S FUCKING GO JAPAN
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That was a beautiful trap
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>getting hit with literally every slingshot as Rosalina
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>>128729369
>smash 4
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KAKATE KOI
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>Villager
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>ssb tournaments dont come with the option to mute Sky

why even watch with sound
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>>128733550
That's what I was thinking but clearly I was doing something wrong since it happened in that second to last game. Hopefully I don't run into a Ryu tomorrow because I am not ready. GGs dude.
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>>128733943
This villager is actually somewhat entertaining
>>128734020
that DBZ comparison was legit funny
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S T R I K E
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I love you /ssbg/
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pack it up america
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i hope they meet in bracket
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RANAI
BTFO
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>Cloud
RIP Japan
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>turn on Smash 4
>people surviving past 200%
>Villager camping

epic game
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WHY IS HE GOING CLOUD?
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>Cloud
Why did Zero kill himself twice.
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>>128734271
ima fucking laugh if zero wins
>>128734305
ranai took 2 stocks
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>Komorikareful
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>almost broke his glasses
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rip usa
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>Losing to Cloud
lmao
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K-kawaii!
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I'm pretty sure that gook is a reverse trap
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>america
>beaten by mexico
>beaten by japan
AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
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Sky really does the whole "LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME IM GAY IM GAY" thing, huh? How annoying.
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I bet Komo would have destroyed Zero if he went Sonic.

I really don't think Cloud does well against Sheik.
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>>128734746
Sonic loses to Sheik hard, because needles beat spindash and keep Sonic from doing his lolepic spin charge mindgames
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>>128734746
Cloud has a better chance than Sonic.
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>>128734068
if he's gonna tatsumaki recover just push him away
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>>128734746
He wanted the guaranteed kill so he went for Cloud and charged limit break all game long.

But in the end he killed Sheik with a simple up air.
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>>128734746
Why are people so in denial that cloud Isnt a broken piece of shit?
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>>128735128
Shiek is literally in the same game and Cloud is broken?
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Why does it seem like Melee players like Splatoon way more than Smash 4 players?
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>>128735370
splatoon is made to be competitive
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>>128735208
There can be more then one broken character.
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>>128735370
>>128735397

Splatoon was made to be fun AND a competitive game.

Smash 4 was made to be "fun" and Sakurai made it unfit for competition as much as possible.
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>>128731231
Top 20 in order:

Sheik
ZSS
Ryu
MK
Sonic
Diddy
Rosa
Pika
Cloud
Villager
Fox
Mario
Peach
ROB
Yoshi
Pit/DPit (same shit)
Ness
Ike
Wario
Falcon

What I've seen from Japan's play has moved Villager above Mario and Fox, and the Pits above Ike.
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>>128735370
Melee players like creative crazy fast paced games with high potential skill ceilings
I hate to talk shit on any smash game fanbase (unlike a lot of other people here apparently) but Smash 4 fans seem like they only bought it because they already had the Wii U.
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>>128735670
DPit is better with the new buff, even Nairo and Zero agree on that.
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>>128735816
I want this meme to die and rot in hell
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>>128735816
Don't be dumb, anon
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>>128735816
>Pit without gimps
>better than Pit with gimps
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>>128736083
These threads would be better without gimps like you m8
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>Cloud comes out
>Actually have fun with the game again
>Actually put effort into playing
>Do some really local stuff and play a ton with friends
>Do really well actually
>Go online and my winrate is 40% higher than it was before he came out.

I'm still bad and half of what I said doesn't even matter, but, I'm happy right now with how things are turning out. Ever since Snack was removed, I've felt no urge to really play it. I have to admit, he's my favorite addition to the roster easily, and I hope he comes back for 5.

He'll be the first one gone I'm sure.

Also link me some resources, I want to learn more.
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>>128736471
which alt do you use
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>>128734824
>>128734972
Sonic goes even with Sheik believe it or not. Spin dash aint everything.

And Cloud gets raped offstage by Sheik if he doesn't have limit.
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I simply don't understand what makes Cloud good aside from his upair.
I don't get it, he looks super fucking basic
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>>128736471

>only having fun with a game because you start winning by using a crutch character
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>>128735370
>>128735641
How can it be competitive when there are so many restrictions on local multiplayer, the bread and butter of competitive scenes?
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>>128736669
Look at Mario, hes basic as shit. The thing is how his moves work and the options that they cover.
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>>128736605
>implying it's not easy to not always have it.
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1 god
y'all better recognizu
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>>128736770
>Putting Pit before Dark Pit
Good job anon, This is a tierlist i can get behind.
But Robin should be a little higher, and Ness should be at the top of B tier
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>tfw crews was a preview of what's to come
>Japan will take the tournament
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>>128736872
>everyone holding up a 1
>komo fucking everything up
one job
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NNID 3DS: 0490-7308-8429
anyone for some 3ds matches or everybody is on wii u? if so I'll download the update for the wiiu
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>>128736538
They all look the same to me. I notice everyone uses the Red Cloud online though. It doesn't really matter though, I usually just cycle through them.

Miss Cloud never

>>128736743
I'd be having fun regardless of if I was winning or not.Winning is just a nice bonus to the situation. I literally had no fun with Smash 4 when it came out and dropped it like a potato for the longest time. Cloud is just fun for me to use.
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>>128736872
Man, japan played so fucking good, they deserved the win more than anyone else, their matches were super entretaining to watch, i'm so glad so many japanese people came to play at this tourney
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>>128736770
Y'all got Luggy and DK too high, their MU spreads ain't good enough to put them top 15
I don't see what you see in Shulk, BJ, or D3 at all
How is Palu not D tier?
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Not gonna lie, it feels odd playing a smash game where Falco isn't near the top.

Everytime I use him, I get milage, but I feel like hes kinda lackluster.
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>>128736982
I'll play you
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>People still respect Scarflard.

Guy's basically a less retarded Chris Chan.
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i wana play
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>>128737063
Falco isn't that bad but he's not great either. Probably in the very middle of mid tier.
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>>128736982
Added you, and I'm hosting
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>>128737059
Luigi is still a pretty good character despite the nerfs.
DK's ding dong is just that good.
Shulk got buffs, hence why he isn't lower than he already is.
I always thought BJ and DDD are a bit underrated to me. BJ has a great projectile game while D3 has great edgeguarding tools.
Palu is bottom tier because she sucks.
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>>128736747
There are rank modes and ways to organize squad battles, online can be very competetive. For offline tournaments just connect them all to the same network with a LAN adapter, thats what Bill said how the treehouse tourney was run
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>>128736770
Palutena should be higher, but good list.
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GGs dubs, too tired to continue. It's been fun.
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>>128736835
Mario can win nationals
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>>128737397
Only Sonic Mario and Cloud are homies. Megaman and Ryu are both hardasses.
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>Tfw won last 10 games in a row with Shulk on fg
Oh shit I'm feeling it
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>>128737397
Why do they look like they are about to pick him up and run away with him when they are done eating?
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>>128729482
she has messed up hitboxes. she has no kill confirms. she has atrocious endlag on that grab with minimal relative reward for landing one. she has no kill throw. she has high endlag on most of her moves. the few moves she has that some people would say are good (like upb, charge shot, and others) have their own serious drawbacks
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>>128737578
Speaking of which who are some good Shulk players to watch? Are any at Genesis?
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>>128737365
ggs dubs. I'm starting to feel it with shittier play each game.
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>>128737708
Nope
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>>128736770
>puff above all those characters
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>>128737153
>respecting a smash 4 player to begin with

Never did
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>>128737567
>cloud
>anyone but his emo gayboi lover Vincent's homie
>not a hardass
>mega"caring and pacifist personality" man
>hardass

Reminder that Cloudfags are this dillusional and have no knowledge of anything that doesn't hoist a overcompensating sword around.
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>>128737294
>>128735397
>There are rank modes and ways to organize squad battles, online can be very competetive.
For online matches, it's a TEAM game and it doesn't even offer voice chat. This is a game that was made to be competitive you say?
>For offline tournaments just connect them all to the same network with a LAN adapter, thats what Bill said how the treehouse tourney was run
You can't do this because even with a LAN adapter you STILL need to go online.
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>>128737696
Hi
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>>128737942
Just use discord you fuccboi
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When is the general going to finally admit cloud is a top 5 "broken" character? Broken meaning you can get great results without putting in too much effort
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>>128737903
>I've only know Cloud from AC
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Are you done or did you disconnect?
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>>128738085
I've been calling people who called him bad since day 1 scrubs. Their only reason is "h-h-his recovery is bad!"
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>>128737903
>never played ff7
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>>128737268
gtg. thanks for the matches.
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>>128738303
In FF7, he was a edgy faggot about everything and only chilled out when the situation forced him to be. He literally screams edgelord.
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>>128737153
dude has gotten pretty chill compared to how he used to be last year
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>>128736923
Holy shit, not that anon but I would fuck Serena
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>>128738590
Property of Ash, do not cuck
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>>128737903
Megaman only care about justice not chilling out and smoking some nice dank weed
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>>128738590
>fully customizable waifu
i honestly can't blame you anon, who wouldn't?
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>>128738697
i would FUCK tatsumaki's legs
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>>128738691
>never read the comics
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anybody?
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>>128738858
I don't play with annoying dedede mains.
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>>128738002
I know. Just saying people who think Splatoon was made to be competitive is full of shit. You'd think the developer saying that he didn't add voice chat because people online hurt his feelings would be proof enough.
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>>128738897
i dont main anyone
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>>128737942
>wanting to talk to other people
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>>128738783
that's some nice taste anon
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Two the other two or three people in this thread doing this shit, how is it going so far?
>tfw I'm starting to regret not picking up a Jap player
At least my whole roster made it past the first round.
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>>128739331
>anyone from mdva
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>>128738525
Zack was better
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>>128739775
I'm regretting that too after seeing Remzi lose to some random Diddy and the whole crew getting wrecked by Texas.
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>6WX putting #1 smash 4 sonic on his bio
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>>128736770
Hurr durr cloud is brokzores.
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>>128737153
I will forever find this cringy.
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>>128740149

he's worse then the chink.

>>128739331

>Wasting money on keitaro
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>>128738590
She's 12
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>>128740496
Please anon you're only making her more appealing.
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>>128740395
>implying he's not one of the better picks in the $90 range
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>>128740373
Get the fuck over yourself.
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>>128740801

He's a upper mid level player playing a below average player. Who is his competition.
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>>128740373
What the fuck? Was he expecting to stay undefeated as long as sm4sh lives?
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Who keeps reporting me?
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>>128741138
Not me.
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>>128741138
s-sorry
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So:

Which players were un the Florida Crew
How many stocks did México had when they beat them
How was Japan vs Mex
How was Ranai vs Zero
Who killed Zero with how many stocks?
How was Japan vs Zero's Crew?
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>>128741481
fuck you
fuck you
fuck you
fuck you
fuck you
fuck you
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>>128741481
perichito
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>>128741138
It's panchito.
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>>128741481
host
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>>128741481
NNID: wozzler
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>fg is super free
>no one is playing on anthers
>no friends online
>don't want to play on /ssbg/
What places are left to find games?
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