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>What the fuck is this shit?
Dirty Bomb's a free to play FPS and successor to games like Enemy Territory or Brink

>Is it p2w?
No. Merc unlocking system is very similar to LoL's champion unlocks.
There are also loadout cards with different rarity, but those aren't going to make you less shit at the game, and everything above bronze is purely cosmetic
You can easily craft them by trading up the dozens of crap lead cards you get

>How the loadout system works:
http://stealth-nerf.com/dirty-bomb-the-loadout-system-explained/

>Loadout/weapon/augment charts
http://forums.dirtybomb.nexon.net/discussion/12972/the-db-genome-project-everything-there-is-to-know-about-loadouts

>Recommended loadouts (Updated but still a WIP - Not quite finished, give your feedback)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/etdws8bydkfiw1a/dbgloadoutguide2.0.png?dl=0

>How do I get this game?
http://store.steampowered.com/app/333930/

>Wiki:
http://dirtybomb.gamepedia.com

>Join our steam group and play with us:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vgdb

>Wanna play competitive?
http://dbn.gg/

>Tweaks and HUD customization
http://pastebin.com/iHnY6YWe

>Sick6's FPS config:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/ps51vb

>Singleplayer map practice and testing commands
http://pastebin.com/ePz8VnJd

>Basics:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LJUmnLDpDw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lGdwdnyWB0

>Advanced:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CsMPX6800Y

>Aim/reflex training:
http://aim400kg.com/

>Discord:
https://discord.gg/0gP8aNVcec7ggHEl

>Teamspeak:
ts.dbn.gg


Rhino rotation edition
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1st for our guy sub
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>play eu execution
>oh shit its shitterbee
>they camp the spawn with the bomb and an ammo station
very good player t b h
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>>128521841
>Sorry mr. professional competitive best player in the world for not being a god at this game right off the bat.
Instead of showing your wounded ego you could just say you are new.
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>>128522479
dude i think you have some problems
>>128521192
>I literally started playing DB in 2016, and thunder-47 is best gun

>raking in kills like nothing else.
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>>128522572
It's cause for concern if you don't start the game with at least 30% accuracy desu
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You guys watch any streams or channels for vods/etc?
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>>128522740
tbfair the difference between 33% and 25% is 1 bullet

so the difference between 30% and 27% is pretty negligible.
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>>128523029
The only streamers worth watching were olbaa and outc1der but they moved on

lightning is a terrible player that can only get kills with explosives but is popular
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>>128522474

I think some validation is in order
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>>128523361
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Reminder that these two players are not EU players nor representative of EU dirty bomb
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Reminder to report all animefags
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>>128523754
>>128523965
>>128525026
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>>128525637
>posting your own profile for attention

you must be really desperate, shitterbee
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>>128526061

nice try shitterbee
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>>128526490
nice try fake shitterbee
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Post Razzie's sexy teeth.
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>>128523101
>outc1der
thanks for reminding me about this joke of a player haha
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>>128527402
is that you taimou?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K4dZSjbfqA
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Friendly reminder to type setclantag /dbg/ in console!~ :3c
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>>128527431
>hes killing me
>hes annoying
>he killing me some more
>i-i-I am sure he is hacking
>I AM THE BEST PLAYER NOBODY CAN KILL ME YOU MUST BE HACKING YOU PIECE OF SHIT THATHADGJHDASTJHA SHIT GAME GOING TO OVERWATCH!

This is why I can't take the opinion of these fuckpuppets seriously.
They have above average aim so they think they are world mlg pro and if anybody is actually as good or better than then, then it must because they are cheating. They literally can't handle "git gud" yet want to be treated seriously.
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>2016
>not getting every possible loadout for your waifu/husbando
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>>128528610
the_autism.jpg
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>>128527431
https://youtu.be/GkiaM35sstk?t=102

>c-c-can you stop spaming crouch :(
>it makes it hard for me to shoot you in the head
>this just silly, how dare you make it hard for me to kill you

Dirty bomb "competitive" players everyone
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>>128527431
>>128528851

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>dirtybomb """""""""""""""esports"""""""""""""""""
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Remember, guys. Let your Vaseline lead the way for the assault!
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Is it good? It looks pretty good.
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Post Kira!~ :3c
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>>128533094
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>>128533082
It's the best and at the same time the only one that is usable.
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>>128528851
>10:00
Omg that was perfect
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Level 105 aura station glitch abuser here, ask me anything.
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>>128534239
>aura station glitch
????
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>>128533727

Sweet, finally some luck in this game.
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>>128534239
Kaur?
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>>128534274
I'm not too sure what it is either but I get accused of doing it daily.

>>128534369
Sup?
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>>128534383
What is your actual Steam account, Kaur? I've seen Hardup and Thomaze but never ran into you.
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>>128534490
http://steamcommunity.com/id/kaur_

Changing names quite often.
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>>128534239
Since when have you been playing?

How often to you get called a no lifer in pubs?

Are you a high skill competitive player or just someone who plays a lot? How many hours do you average every 2 weeks?
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>>128534659
cheers big ears
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>>128534239
Do you regret boosting yourself that much?
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>>128535094
I was gonna say
>level 104
>this low on score
but then I saw thunder.
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>>128534274
Back in september there was a glitch where you can set and pick up the heal station on the ev.
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>>128535094

FAGGOT

>cant even 1v1 my trash proxy with redeye
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>>128535428
he did exactly as good as you
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>>128535462
>kd is what matters
????
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>>128535428
Im the level 13 Fragger, not kaur.
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>>128535547
>execution
it's literally the only thing that matters
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>>128535639
I prefer to actually plant the bomb.
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>>128534985
Started around mid 2014 with Nexon launcher.
Multiple times on every server I play on. (pic related)
I don't play competitive. Around 60 hours/2weeks.

>>128535094
>>128535353
Thunder is hard, I'm not skilled enough to top score with him.

>>128535195
My solid snake is rising.

>>128535413
For some reason no players on those screenshots are above level 20. It's kind of retarded to accuse current high level players of doing it.

>>128535428
Too fast for me.

>>128535462
>>128535547
I played only 2 rounds after connecting to a losing team, what do you expect?
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>>128535705
the bomb is a side-objective

your team has like twenty minutes to get 5 kills. planting actually makes it easier for you to lose unless your team is completely incompetent
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>>128535764
>For some reason no players on those screenshots are above level 20. It's kind of retarded to accuse current high level players of doing it.
Because the screenshot is from september the glitch was around for almost a month and you could get 1-2 mill per game it was insane.
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>>128535764
I will never understand how people get so triggered about numbers
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>>128535764
I find it ironic that people who call others "no-lifes" get so mad at a video game. What's wrong? It's not a "life", so why are you angry?
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>>128535886

>plant in a specific spot
>go to a very well concealed position
>headshot the retards defusing
>they either need to come chase you and lose or hope you somehow manage to miss every shot
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>>128535987
they're angry because you keep killing them
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>>128536038
But it's not life bro, get a life hahah :^)
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>>128536013
or more likely
>die trying to plant
>team loses
or
>successfully plant
>huge enemy push because none of them are dead
>your team at the bomb is wiped
>level 1 bushwhacker defuses for a round loss while three teammates wander around the map
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>>128536134
50 seconds is a ridiculously long amount of time given to defuse. It should be 35-40 seconds, including in other game modes aside from memecution.
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>>128535840
Estonia.

>>128535959
Mind getting me a screenshot from October then?

>>128535973
I'm number 105 so I must be 10 times better than the number 10 and half player, right?

>>128535987
They are just angry they don't have the free time to dedicate to their hobbies and have to slave 3 full time jobs.

>>128536038
>>128536085
If I kill them, that means they have no life. Only death.
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A GIFT FOR YOU, NO CHARGE

OH WAIT

EXPLOSIVE CHARGE
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>>128536218
>Jackal officer: Listen up, we hired yoou guys to blow up these pylon-things
>So we give you the c4, you set it, ok?
>But here's the thing: we're nice guys, so give the CDA some time to defend ok?
>Like 50 seconds on arming timer should be good. Oh, and we'll give you only one bomb.
>So, any questions?
>Merc in the background: Why are we letting them disarm it?
>Jackal officer: No questions? Ok, go and make daddy proud.
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>>128536330
Post first page of your most played mercs.
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>>128536747
I played Sparks before she was cool and before Faral3th was a mod. Don't hate.
>>128536769
No. Too many Russian immigrants for my liking.
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>>128537191
Now show us all the cool cards in your inventory.
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>>128537191
>I played Sparks before she was cool and before Faral3th was a mod. Don't hate.
You mean back when vassili had instant gibbing? When fragger had instant gibbing?
When kira had a faster laser? When bushwankers turret was stronger?
Sparks was fine then, because gibs existed and there was enough fire power to take things out fast.
She only truly became cancer after the many nerfs to everything else.
Same story with fletcher.
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>incoming update that will have the servers down for 5 hours

Can you think of any changes to the game that will make you quit it, /dbg/? What about anything that will make you want to play more?

I'd be pretty upset if they nerf sparks yet again, but I haven't been playing her as much lately so it's not that big of a deal.
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>>128537347
They nerfed time to get up from a Sparks revive at the same time.
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>>128535764
>first game of today
>level 92 joins enemy team
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>>128537456
source
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>>128537605
http://dirtybomb.nexon.net/news/5875/scheduled-game-update--january-14th-2015
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>>128537557
>proxy
>the biggest piece of shit
lol
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>>128537605
http://dirtybomb.nexon.net/news/5875/scheduled-game-update--january-14th-2015

Ignore the year in the title and url, looks like it's a typo. It was posted yesterday.
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>>128537674
>>128537739
oh boy I can't wait to lose half my FPS
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>>128537456
It's not the game update your thinking about it's gonna happen after this one.
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>>128537296
Well, if you insist.
>>128537347
Yeah, pretty much.
>>128537456
Forcing 5v5 matchmaking on everybody as a main game mode. Compfags like average6 and Lightning are already trying to make this happen.
>>128537557
Proxy is clearly too OP of a merc to deal with.
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>>128537739
I expect them to fix nothing.
And reduce the performance of the game by 5-10%
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>>128537859
No founders cards? I am disappoint.
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>>128537960
>not a goy
>this is somehow bad
classic
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hopefully they bring back sort by rarity as default in loadouts page
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>>128538013
He's clearly a goy to have so many special edition cards.
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>>128537859
why not smelt some of those bad cobalts
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>>128537859
>dat cobalt sm41 with fragment skin

gib pls
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>>128537725
Yeah, he must have played against you.
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>Dick cases still drop
>Bu you can no longer buy them

The fuck im supposed to do with all my credits now
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>>128538959
tradeup
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>>128537456
>make me quit
if they remove objective mode for normal play

>make me play more
buff thunder
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>>128537456
M4 nerf or "rework" :^) could potentially make me quit, I'm tired of seeing weapons I like being gutted.
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>>128537960
I expected the game to turn out as shit as ETQW and Brink, totally regret not buying them now. Time machine when?

>>128538127
You never know when the balance shifts and current top tier cards get nerfed into oblivion. The trade in price is not fair either.

>>128538231
Cobalt is the new bronze. Special Edition is where it's at.

>>128538959
Buy Aimee and 'That face when no Valentine' cases.
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>>128537456

If they buff explosives in any way shape or form. Remove health from the medics, add health to the long range classes.
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>>128537725
>those 2 shotgun misses on the pheonix
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>>128537739

I was going to hit 50l after the missions reset at 3. I was going to buy Nader.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>128539852
>You never know when the balance shifts and current top tier cards get nerfed into oblivion. The trade in price is not fair either.
Jesus. It's like you aren't retarded or something.
You any good at the game as well?
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>>128540043
I never said I was good
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>>128540071
>I was going to buy Nader.
>not having Nader already
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>>128539852

Gold swiss>containment>cobalt fragment>rest

the xmas special ones are meme tier
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>>128534239
I love Kira, Anime and Kaur :3 <3
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>>128540257
>the xmas special ones are meme tier
>implying the M14 and Timik woodgrains are not toppest tier
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>>128540379
>2 out of 19 looks nice
>its not meme tier guys!
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>>128540550
aww, baby didn't get one?
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>>128540257
Cards that can't be traded up and in > Cards that can be traded in > Cards that can be traded up and in. How they look is irrelevant.

>>128540373
I love Nader, Deutchland and AnimeGrill99
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>>128540709
:3
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>>128540709
im sorry anon but youre autistic

>skins
>how they look is irrelevant
ok then
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>>128541023
Rarity and age > Looks.
I play on low graphics so they all look 50 pixels of gray anyways.
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>>128540373
>>128540709
I love Proxy, Dragons and Shitterbee
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>>128541121
>I play on low graphics so they all look 50 pixels of gray anyways.
oh ok
forgive me for liking aesthetics over a few fps
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>>128541343
$100 he's playing on a toaster
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>>128540709
>>128541151
I love Nader, Proxy and Skymemer's accent.
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>>128539852
Can you link us to more of these?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmY85rV6Vw0
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>>128541690
>sniper phantom
Oh shit dude, why did they take it from him?
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>>128541690
Look how sexy this fucking looks. LOOK AT IT!
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>>128542064
Because he is supposed to be a recon, not a sniper
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i don't even like the BR

how many of you penis sniffers would trade your swiss golds and cobalts for this?
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>>128542838
It's only the best BR temporarily until they fix Explodydendron on Kira when the B41 will be the superior option, and still inferior to S81.
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>>128528851
well taimou is the embodiment of an "all aim no brain" player
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>>128541343
Sorry for having an opinion different than yours.
>>128541469
I can play DB on Ultra with no issues, I choose not to.
>>128541690
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-tDuxcnavE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4ROeAEMuRE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoxKkQpYRgE
All those links can be found without logging in so no 'muh NDA' bullshit please.
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>>128542838
>cuckens skin
Containment War or bust, dickes looks like shit on every weapon save for the timik and m4.
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>>128537557
>play beta fighter proxy for the first time in eons
>instantly cyber bullied
guess I'm not allowed to play shit mercs
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>>128542164
Yea and look how shitty it ran. Even with a good computer it ran like shit
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>>128545095
You mean just like it does NOW?!
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>>128545185
tbqh it's not as laggy as it was in alpha but the game did look good
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>>128543873
Already had the first 2, third one is really interesting. Why did they simply remove the silencer from the Selbstadt?
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>>128545282
the game only looks good with textures turned off
you just simply cannot make an impressive looking game with UE3
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so /dbg/ if you could pick all augments and weapons(but only from the pool that the merc can acquire as of now)

What would your dream loadout would be for your fave merc?
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>>128545586
Proxy:
Hollunds
MP400
Beckhill

Springy
Quick Slash
Quick Draw
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>>128545586
Sparks - 383 would become 341 and Potent Packs gets replaced by Extra Supplies.
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>>128545586
sawbonez

crotzni

extra ammo
potent packs
unshakeable
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>>128545586
>Nader
Bigger Blast
Unshakeable
Quick Draw
SMG-9 M9 Cricket Bat
so basically sm41 with tweaks, no drilled because smg9 has great reload with cancelling already
>Proxy
Drilled
Double Time
Fail Safe
Hollunds MP400 Cricket Bat
Sparks
It exists
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>>128545586
>Stoker
Stark
Deagle
Beckhill

Drilled
Double Time
Quick Draw
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>>128545586
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>>128545586
Fragger with k121, unshakable, explody, drilled.

Arty with stark, explody, unshakable, drilled.

Nader with crotzni, bigger blast, unshakable, drilled.

Sawboner with crotzni, unshakable, get up, extra supplies.

Proxy with cricket bat, flying pig, chopper, quick slash.

Phoenix with kek, extra supplies, potent packs, get up.
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>>128545586
S81
Double time
Quick Draw
Untrackable/Mayyybe bomb squad, the new bomb squad can is actually bails me out occasionally, but untrackable replaces it advantageouslt most of the time.
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>>128545586
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>>128545586
Skyham-

>tfw realize the only change I want on M92 is a combat knife rather than the Stiletto

BEST CARD
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>>128545363
The game has shit-tier directional audio so it doesn't really make a difference. There is no smooth transitions in audio volume, its either on or off. Close your eyes and you can't tell the exact direction of anything. Important sounds that should play are randomly deleted and you hear irrelevant stuff from the other end of the map. Footsteps audio is trash.

Some more videos you might enjoy, older versions of maps and stuff:
http://forums.warchest.com/showthread.php/36302-Get-Watching-Dirty-Bomb-Showmatch-Videos

>>128545586
Pic related.
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>>128547093
>but only from the pool that the merc can acquire as of now
reading comprehension etc
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>>128547093
How can somebody fail this hard at reading
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>>128547194
>>128547263
I skipped the ( ) part, forgive me.
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>>128547329
who is this cutie
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>>128547392
Mother of RazielWarmonic.
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>>128541469
Wtf I thought this was some people bent over in front of babby
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>>128547392
Alissa Barry-Toth aka Miss Murder. Former Nexon's community manager of Dirty Bomb.
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>>128545586
pic
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>>128547392
Lawbreakers community manager.
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>>128547548
>mfw I just found out it isn't cause of your post
this site has corrupted me
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>800 mb update

Holy shit finally a sub 1gb update, are they learning how to code?
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>>128547906
Not it's hotfix for like 1-5 small issues.
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>128547906
>800 mb update

More like you can expect incredibly meaningless changes if any at all.
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>>128547906
>Caulden now has the same spread as the Dreiss
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>>128547329
The fuck is wrong with her left ear? Why is it so far away from her head?
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>regular dickens cases are still dropping after matches
>store doesn't sell them anymore though
why
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>>128547717
i love this meme
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>>128547093
>The game has shit-tier directional audio
This. So much fucking this. It's especially evident on Underground second stairs, where you can hear what happens above you better than around you.
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Can we stop shitposting for a minute and compile all the annoying bugs in dirty bomb?

This is what I got so far: https://pad.riseup.net/p/DirtyBugs
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>>128548921
Crappy greenscreen editing.
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>>128550232
>leaked footage of turtle on chapel.png
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New weekly bundle in less than 2 hours, will it be this time???
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>>128550726
Nope.
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>>128550726
>being this late
rhino
bushwacker
arty
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>>128550858
I think he's talking about the humble bundle cards
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Bug Fixes Include:

Fixed bug where if you were in a ‘1’ division (Silver 1, Gold 1) the next rank would display incorrectly (Gold 1, Cobalt 1)
Fixed bug where game notifications overlapped when defusing while another Objective was active
Fixed bug that stopped Competitive Ranks displaying
Fixed bug where after leaving feedback the pop up to exit the game didn’t appear
Fixed bug where the End-Game Review chat box stated that players will win the match if all opponents leave
Fixed bug where a team could cause the other to surrender by calling a surrender vote just before swapping sides mid-game
Fixed bug where players could crash to desktop after successfully planting C4
Fixed bug where the Equipment Case drop notifications were missing from the End-Game Review
'Removed 'Voice Receive Volume' slider whilst we investigate a bug causing audio to stop working
Thank you for your patience.
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>>128550232
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>>128550991

is this really all? we are getting another update this month right?
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>>128551070
Yeah, happens sometimes when you die holding a bomb, get reved fast and pick the bomb back while teammate is picking it up too.
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>>128551167
There should be one bigger content update later this month.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zobis77rW8

Look at the old chaple. Look. LOOK!
It more objectives at every stage. Why the fuck did they remove them? To streamline it for the retards? Jesus literally everything seems to be downhill with this game.
It took them 2 years to make this game shittier.
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>>128551371
>Why the fuck did they remove them? To streamline it for the retards?

no, because the stage inside the chapel was unplayable shit. Same goes for the removed part of bridge.

t. founder
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>>128551675
>>no, because the stage inside the chapel was unplayable shit.
Then make it better, don't just cut content left and right, geez what a rookie way to handle things.
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>>128550991
>Fixed bug where a team could cause the other to surrender by calling a surrender vote just before swapping sides mid-game
>Fixed bug where players could crash to desktop after successfully planting C4

How can you even fuck up this bad
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>>128551352

>flak vest
>sports equipment

what a bleak future this game is set in
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>>128551167
content update near the end of this month which may or may not include 2 new maps to test out, one for objective/stopwatch and one for execution
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>>128552178
good job, now make a video for each of these >>128550232
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>>128551371
>those sights
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>>128551371
This looked neat, very minimalistic and fast like ET
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>>128550232
Anyone posted this on their forums yet?
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>>128550991
I NEED that Hexa Skyhammer costume.
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>>128553098
I'm gonna when I'm done. It's part of a bigger post on what's wrong with Dirty Bomb right now.

The "big 5" I got so far:

>Competitive Mode
>Monetisation
>Bugfixing
>Loadout System
>Lack of perspective/communication
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>>128551371
they had to streamline it so you could play the map in 15 mins without having to roll the other team nonstop

this aint the era of half hour rounds anymore
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>>128553507
>>Loadout System
Do you want them to fix some of the more useless cards so they they are all viable like phoenix and thunders?
Or remake the system?
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>>128550991
MWA master race
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>>128553681
>they had to streamline it so you could play the map in 15 mins without having to roll the other team nonstop

>this aint the era of half hour rounds anymore

Well why the fuck not? What if I want to have that kind of chaple with multiple objectives?
Why can't there be a long version of a map with more stuff to do?!
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>>128554193
Because you're not the largest audience of this game, most are casuals that don't have time/patience to play vidya for 1 hour straight. especially when they're getting rekt.
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>>128554058
I'm more of a "pointing out what's wrong" guy than a "coming up with a solution" guy. I'd prefer a complete revamp (seperating skins and augments/weapons), but a rework of existing cards would still be better than nothing.
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>>128554367
But I'd be getting the 50 kills badge so much more often. Too many times I've broken 40 kills and got mad due to not getting a few more.
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I just wanna play dirty butt how long will the servers be down?
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>>128555042
Till 8 pm UTC.
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>Fixed bug that stopped Competitive Ranks displaying
Back to having people blaming their losses on small colorful icons.
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>>128555207
to be fair DB matchmaking tends to make teams like "3 silver 1 gold 1 unranked vs 3 gold 2 cobalt"
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>>128555325
That's every matchmaking in every multiplayer game ever.
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>>128555419
True. I feel like CS:GO and League have better matchmaking, but that might just be because they have a much bigger population.

They could pretty much solve this issue by offering some sort of incentive for ranked play other than useless trinkets.
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>>128555325
Everyone should start at silver 5 rather than gold 5.
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>>128555556
>a much bigger population.
It definitely helps with match-making. Obviously, statistically there's much more people in lower ranks. Thus, high-rank players will often times join a game that is populated by low-ranks just because match-making didn't find more high-ranks to make a different lobby.
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>>128537191
JUST
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>>128556093
nyet
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How do we fix Thunder?
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>>128554549
Like I really wish they would remove useless shit like cool and extra supplies on kira.
Like look at this shit.

Compare that to mercs like phoenix or thunder, which have perks that all fit the character and there isn't a single card that isn't terrible. Why can't they fucking swallow their pride and fix the old cards.
>no somebody bought shitty cards
Find me any kira player that doesn't agree these cards need fixing.
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>>128556636
Reduce spread on MK46 and bring back the old conc (except for being flashed across the map).
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>>128556636
Concussion grenades irl are lethal explosives that kill via direct blast wave rather than fragments of metal. So it's obvious. Make them lethal. Or just reverse the nerfs.
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>>128556636
bring cooking back
increase movement speed by 10
increase MK46 damage by 1
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>>128556636
Make his conc fuck up absolutely everything
Aura stations, ammo stations, molotovs, lasers, nades, cloack
he will become the ultimate 1v1mefaggot merc
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>>128556674
I'm quite happy with my S81 in cobalt shard though.
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>>128556636
Very simple my friend.

1. REMOVE ALL HUD ELEMENTS when concussed or flashed. This means hit markers, healthbars, minimaps, EVERYTHING.

2. Make concussion effect LOCK IN the camera. So you can't turn your camera at all for a couple of seconds. (Duration lasts based on distance)

It's done comrade. He is very viable now.
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>>128557194
Remember.....kot blini...Toвapищ
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>>128557006
it already does:
>aura stations
>ammo stations
>mines
>and i think it does remove phantom's shit? not sure with this one
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>>128557027
Clearly you missed the point. The stark loadouts are fine if they fix explody. It's Dreiss loadouts that are HORRIBLE. And 2 Br loadouts that need fixing.
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>>128557194
>2. Make concussion effect LOCK IN the camera. So you can't turn your camera at all for a couple of seconds. (Duration lasts based on distance)

lmao, might as well just instakill you then. What an idiotic suggestion.
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>>128557340
>It's Dreiss loadouts that are HORRIBLE
Well no shit, they have a Dreiss in them.
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>>128556636
Is it possible to be both concussed and flashed at the same time?
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>>128557296
>it already does
it already does only a couple of things
im saying he should stop fucking everything
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>>128557463
>if fragger hit you in the face, you would be instantly dead.

>but if an UNCOOKABLE NADE HIT YOU, that makes you aim with strafing for a couple of seconds it would be OP

Go back to reddit with your broken wrists faggot.
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>>128557296
>>128557626
it also prevents fletcher's stickies from exploding unless shot at

and theres an urban legend that if you can get the conc off when skymemer drops his airstrike nade before it explodes. it wont summon the airstrike
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>>128557545
Sure, but maybe I feel like handicaping myself and trying a different gun?
I don't want to have less perks as well for it. Get what I am saying? They can at any time tweek the dreiss in go a good gun.
But the perks need to be changed completely.
I don't care if you can fire the MG 10 times as long with cool, it simply does not fit kira.
Same with extra supplies on both kira and stoker, they do nothing.
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>>128557656
exept conc grenades affect everyone looking at the grenade, not just everyone in the blast radius. Plus, if you happen to not look at head/body level when the conq hits, you can't shoot at all. Plus you can't even turn around and run. Your idea is shit, just accept it.
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>>128557892
dude i think youre mixing up being flashed and being concussed
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>>128557827
Well I've sort of accepted having some crappy perks. I use M61 on Stoker just for Drilled, Mechanic is super situational and the only time I use Flying Pig is on Bridge like once or twice per match to save <10HP.
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What if extra supplies gave you TWO ammo stations? Make a wall or a tower!
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>>128558181
They'd have to replace the perk then since it's already plenty good on Aura.
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>>128558062
>Well I've sort of accepted having some crappy perks.
It doesn't have to be this way. Look at phoenix and thunder. Both have good loadouts, every single card isn't shit.

>>128557892
God this retarded reddit kid is now confused and doesn't even know the difference between the flash part or the concussion part of the nade.
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>>128558181
Wouldn't that be redundant on the B42 loadout for arty?
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>>128558287
>>128558331
Why can't be a perk do different things on different mercs?
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>>128557006
>enemy thunder throws his conc nade
https://youtu.be/VR4vlp5yWKk?t=48
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What if perks had different effects dependent on the merc? Would be pretty good to balancing too, since you could do stuf like: "unshakeable on merc x: 20%, unshakeable on merc y: 22%" or something.
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>>128556636
kot blini
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I wish there was some kind of system to how the loadouts are constructed. Like

per weapon, have:
-one combat oriented loadout (i.e. Drilled, Focus, Spares)
-one ability/utility-oriented loadout (i.e. Explodydendron, Quick Draw, Mechanic)
-one rounded loadout (no drilled, no primary ability augments, but things like Unshakable and improved ammo)


OR

have every card have the following:
-one or two combat augment(s) (drilled, quick draw, focus, chopper, quickslash)
-one or two primary ability augment(s) (Explody, Get Up, Lock On, etc)
-one defense/utility augment (Extra ammo, guardian angel, unshakable, bomb squad, etc)
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>>128558604
There is some sort of system that is reflected on their names though. You can see that all of Stoker's cards are called Modern Rifleman since he gets 1 perk from each of the same 3 types on every card.
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A short guide to fixing Thunder:

>Bring back cooking
>Concussion effect disables abilities as well as all HUD elements and all deployables
>Slows enemy movement and aim speed depending on proximity to center of blast
>Direct hit is a 100% snare
>Concussion and flash effect length doubled when indoors
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>>128559072

abilities that take control away from players are cancerous as fuck.
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>>128559293
>Death takes control away from the player.
>OMG guns and explosives and merc abilities are cancerious as fuck

FUCK you are retarded faggot choke on a dick
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>>128559293

The whole point of a crowd control merc is to control crowds.
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>>128559293
>any MOBA and MMORPG with PvP
>tf2 rocket launchers
>every arena game rocket launcher
>even fucking CoD has shit to prevent moving/shooting

the only exception is CS:GO
so you might aswell go back to it.
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>>128559753
>CS:GO
There are flashbangs in CS though, aren't they?
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>>128559753
you missed
>SC2
>overmeme
>hearthshit
>rainbow6siege
>soulsgames
>fighting games
hell even fucking indie shit that has pvp has some sort of crowd control that takes control away
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>>128559978
And aimpunch too.
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>>128559978
yeah but they don't actually take your control over your character away, just make you blind for a year.

it's soft CC

this autistic person implied that any PvP game that has a hard CC mechanic is "cancerous"
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>>128560227
>it's soft CC
You can't jump away on walls in CS
You can kill an enemy in 1-2 bullets.
Flash actually blinds and makes you deaf with no hud.

GEE I WONDER WHY JUST A FLASHBANG IS ENOUGH FOR CS

IT'S NOT LIKE IN DIRTY BOMB YOU HAVE MORE MOBILITY AND LONGER TTK
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>>128560551
>You can kill an enemy in 1-2 bullets.
Isn't that kinda, you know, not fun?
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>>128561025
people can like other kinds of games
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>>128561137
no way
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killerbee is a fag
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>>128564161
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>>128551804
if you only knew how much shit gets cut from pretty much every game that isn't fully open source
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>>128560096
just because CC is a thing in pretty much everything doesn't mean that it's fun to be on the receiving end of it
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Thoughts?
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>>128565975
On?
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>>128565975
It's shit.
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>>128565975
I disagree. This is not a good idea.
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>>128565975
Needs more testing
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>>128565975
nerf thunder
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>>128566403
>>128566403
>>128566403
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Nader, Proxy, or Phantom next?
Not interested in the rest.
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>>128566758
PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS PHOTOSHOPPED

THIS ISNT REAL RIGHT
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>>128566930
Proxy is a must, Nader is decent
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>>128566930
Great too see that you already have Kira :3
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>>128566758
Is it gay if I don't think she's very attractive?

I like girls to be the one with the soft body
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