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/sthg/ #389 - Classic & Knuckles Edition
>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/p1bzghuF
>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b
>News/Developments<
Sonic Movie is Still in the Works
https://twitter.com/VanTheBrand/status/686254233486659584
Sega Reveals New 25th Anniversary Details “Branded Events & New Style Guides”
http://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/01/sega-reveals-new-25th-anniversary-details-branded-events-new-style-guides/
Mario & Sonic At Rio 3DS Releases March 18th
http://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/01/mario-sonic-at-rio-3ds-releases-march-18th/
Johnny Gioeli Hints at Possible Crush 40 Involvement In 25th Anniversary Title
http://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/01/johnny-gioeli-hints-at-possible-crush-40-involvement-in-25th-anniversary-title/
>Recent Releases<
Sonic Lost World has released on Steam!
3D Sonic the Hedgehog 2 has released for the Nintendo 3DS! You can buy it on the Nintendo 3DS eShop.
Sonic Dash 2: Sonic Boom has released for iOS and Android devices! You can download it for free from iTunes or the Google Play store.
Sonic Boom's first season has ended! You can watch all of the first season's episodes in English here:
http://www.watchcartoononline.com/anime/sonic-boom
Previous Thread: >>128271172
First Fast.
August 9th for Rio Wii U.
>>128516910
Where'd you hear that?
The anniversary should be a crossover featuring all the continuities trying to stop the ultimate team up of all the Eggmen.
>Still no comics
>>128517090
There was a rumor a long while ago with a bunch of SEGA franchise crossing over for the 25th anniversary.
>>128517116
Where IS the newest issue!
>>128517116
Storytiming them when they leaked was a mistake.
>>128517303
They leaked? Was it from the app?
>>128517679
Yes. Back in December.
>>128517162
Sonic Digital 25.
If that new anon is still here, I still want to know how you found the general.
Choose one to serve you, /sthg/.
>>128517090
>implying Sega will do that when they did not allow anyone from Boom, other than Sticks because she does not have a counter part in the main comics, in Worlds Unite because they did not want the kids to become confused
>>128520632
Blue one.
>>128520901
Introduction:
>There are all kinds of alternate versions of Sonic and his friends from other dimensions
Simple.
>>128517090
If we had that, Eggman from the Comics would be second to Game Eggman and you know it.
You think Sega JP are gonna admit that Comic Eggman is more threatening and cunning?
But what we're probably gonna get if this comes true in anyway is Boom, Classic and Modern all teaming up to fight all 3 Sonics.
>can pick from the whole of Sonic's history
>9 levels
Just a bit pissed Sonic Generations, you were a good game though.
>>128520632
>Choose one
The one with pink shoe laces/ribbon (or bow)
>>128518058
SONICS LEGS ARENT TAN
>>128521150
>If we had that, Eggman from the Comics would be second to Game Eggman and you know it.
Why is that a problem? I can see the Sega Eggman being the unappointed leader of alliance since he is the original. You guys overrated Archie Eggman too much. Especially since Fleetway Eggamn isn't so nice either.
>>128521750
Game Eggman is the OG and all, but Eggman's by nature are double crossing lying bastards.
It's a wonder how Modern and Classic Eggman survived a truce.
And out of the two of them, (well, with the current version of Game Eggman), Archie Eggman is just a bit more cunning. Lacks scope mind you.
Game Eggman has the upper hand with being able to create huge machines and factories almost overnight, but Archie Eggman I'd put my bet on to be the first to backstab anyone.
Which is why I'd be disappointed if he was playing lackey to Game Eggman, is all.
>>128522508
I'd imagine all the Eggman's having ulterior motives behind each other's backs. Like as a final boss battle where they are all controlling this massive mech/machine to dominate the multiverse and they all have wired it to put it under their control with a push of a button. And it all has the robot going crazy shooting, blasting and malfunctioning all over the place as the Eggmen fight/argue for control. It would be ironic since they would have won if they kept it together and not let their egos get in the way.
MY SIDES
>>128523852
Think I just vomited a little.
>>128520959
>>128521358
>>128523013
It's the Egg Wily Machine X all over again.
>You SABOTAGED me?
>>128528227
It just gets better.
Bump before work.
>>128528227
>>128528340
What about Ian?
>>128530203
>>128530498
>>128530203
So I took it a step further and.....
Seems about right.
>>128520901
That was a stupid ass reason.
>We at Sega want to push the new brand of Sonic, so we are afraid that the Sonic Boom versions might look bad/inferior against the classic versions. So that's why we didn't have them crossover.
World's Unite was a mess.
>>128531949
No, they were worried that kids would get confused about there being two Sonics running around at the same time.
>>128532114
Wow. That's underselling the intelligence of your fanbase.
>>128533389
Overselling actually, they are Sonic fans after all.
>>128534026
>linking to honey pots
>>128533389
They spent a good year telling people Boom was not replacing the main series and that it was just a spin off and still nobody understands that.
Morning /sthg/
>>128534187
If the Boom games hadn't been a disaster they 100% would have replaced the main series.
>>128534930
Morning, anon-kun
>>128534998
Thats what all doomsayers said.
>Lemmy
>Bowie
>now Alan Rickman
Why?
>>128535396
This is not a good year
>>128535941
And we just started it, too
New game when?
>>128536530
Soon(tm)
>>128535052
And they were right, and the game was a disaster, but the cartoon was a success. So it didn't take over, but they didn't bury it.
>>128537919
>it didn't take it over
It never was going to as long as Iizuka was in charge.
Thinking Boom was going to replace normal Sonic is as dumb as people who thought Shadow the Hedgehog was going to become the new main character after his game.
>>128538007
You are in denial and are retarded.
>>128538050
So if Archie comics were popular would they take over the main series?
>>128538090If only.
>>128538090
If they did then characters like Sally and the other FFs would have the same role that anyone not named Sonic and Eggman do in the games.
>>128538259
That's only if Iizuka continues to have his way. It's been said on more than one occasion that he's intentionally keeping Sonic in a vacuum, mindlessly attempting to recreate the things people "liked" about the franchise despite not having a solid understanding of what those things were in the first place.
That, and I suppose he's trying to appeal to the Nintendo audiences, but that's only speculation.
>>128518058
I just searched up "4chan sonic" and wanted to contribute. At least I sorta did with the movie tweet.
>>128520632
Blue, obviously.
>>128538869
I try to only talk about the games. I don't read the comics or anything like that.
>>128538869
You could ask them same of pretty much every other general here on /vg/.
The answer is simple: It's because there aren't enough places to regularly discuss the subject matter without being subjected to rampant fanboyism, or the collective criticisms of some bandwagon made up of people who aren't allowed to like the things they want.
Have you seen the SEGA forums? Sonic Retro? Bumbleking? Honestly, there aren't too many places to talk about Sonic without hanging a sign around your neck. Anonymity offers security for those with the desire to escape the masses.
>>128540417
This; there's a reason you can never leave 4chan. Nowhere else feels quite the same.
>>128540417
>ask them same
*the
Bah, mistype. Oh well, have some cute.
>>128541163
>>128541294
>>128538090
No because Archie comics aren't jap.
Other anons are right, if Boom had been popular on all fronts it would have over taken modern sonic. The amount of push behind Boom points to this.
>>128541901
>Archie comics aren't jap
Neither is Boom.
>>128541901
But Boom isn't Jap either.
Meanwhile, characters like Scourge have a cult following in japan
>>128540417
I haven't looked at Retro much outside of their hacking community. Is it that bad?
>>128542914
Just elitists who think because they make rom hacks they could easily take the jobs of sega employees.
>>128542914
a bit of a circlejerk
meido
>>128535396
Fucking hell 2016
>>128535396
>mfw it's real
>>128535396
yfw all of your favorite actors/musicians are or will be dead in the next 10 to 20 years
>>128545805
>Page can't be found
Nice try Pedoskunk
>>128545805
But I wanted a game that was at least half decent.
>>128545805
Nice b8, Skunk
Maybe wait a little longer before trying it again? >>128472803
>>128545619
>yfw all of your favorite actors/musicians are or will be dead in the next 10 to 20 years
>Sonic is over quarter of century old
>Tails is 25
>people born in this millenia are legal in 2 years
>2006 was 10 years ago
>gens was 5 years ago
>Boom discussions started 2 years ago
>/sthg/ is 1 year and 5 months old
>Boom show started over year ago
>Boom show ended 3 or 4 moths ago
fuck everything
>>128546636
Hey, there are some good things about it though.
>every year we get further and further away from Sonic Underground
>>128546636
>Sonic 06 is 10 years old
>Sega/Sonic Team are still holding back what they do in games because of it
>People still give Sonic endless shit because of it
>>128546636
>tfw you're as old as your favorite sonic game
>>128546636
>The Ride was 2 years ago
Someone made a comic and pic related is part of that
http://geistbox.tumblr.com/post/135589803320/this-is-the-worst-thing-i-have-ever-drawn
>>128549246
edgy
>>128546859
see>>128546992
>>People still give Sonic endless shit because of it
it
never
ends
>>128548681
>tfw you are 10 years older than your favoriteanime/manga
>>128548923
>All those reaction images
truly a great times my friend
>>128549246
thanks for the sauce
I've been trying to find it for a while now
>>128535396
>We lost the latter 2 in a single week
>Both were British
>Both were 69Oh god what if Tim Curry is next.RIP King Max
>>128549791
>tfw no cosmic reboot to save him
Anyone else notice that Sonic's twitter deleted that tweet to Jon St John?
>>128548923
Two years ago, really?
>>128552895
Yeah.
>>128542153
>Meanwhile, characters like Scourge have a cult following in japan
Zonic too.
>>128538869
>>>/vg/ksg
>>128551926
I think they got in trouble for that.
>>128538660
Huh, it's as simple as that to find this place. Interesting.
>>128553525
Why would they get in trouble? Hmmmmmm
>>128554421
He probably got a shit ton of messages and told sega to stop.
>>128551926
>Aaron is working for the Republican Party
Stop
>>128543094
I mean, we are kinda one too.
>>128553271
It hurts me physically to realise penders had a small hand in creating two very beloved character of the pre reboot comic.
It hurts me even more that they are so popular in japan.
>>128554780
But we're the fun circlejerk.
>>128555074
It's still a circlejerk, though.
>>128554731
>I'm here to make America great again and chew bubble gum, and I'm all out of gum.
>>128555037
>It hurts me physically to realise penders had a small hand in creating two very beloved character of the pre reboot comic.
It's alright when you realize that Penders had little to do with Zonic (Created by Dan Slott) and pretty much nothing to do with why people like Scourge. Then again, is there a Penders character that people like because of what Penders himself did?
>>128553271
>>128542153
What other characters does Japan love?
>>128555237
Currently ? None. because Flynn took the time to overhaul every single character appearing during his run pre reboot :P
Penders had nothing, nothing for him that others couldn't do better.
>>128555237
Most of my favorites of the pre-reboot were either Ian's spin on Penders characters (Scourge, Lien-Da) or different writer(s) plus Ian (Shard, Larry, Fini, Hope).
>>128555608
Japan in general loves characters that are alternate versions of the main characters.
Scourge = Evil Sonic. Zonic = Zone Cop Sonic. Shard = Hero Metal Sonic. This is also why Silver was made a hedgehog instead of a mink like he was originally supposed to be.
>>128555667
>>128555629
>Penders had nothing, nothing for him that others couldn't do better.
Exactly. When people say they miss his characters, they just miss what Ian or Bollers did with them. And yet Penders still thinks that he's the reason people liked those characters, when oftentimes the characters that people liked the most from him were the characters he used the least ( Like Scourge/Evil Sonic and Lien Da) Hell, he tried to make out Lien Da in the Green Knuckles arc to be treacherous, but it's not until Bollers and Ian get their hands on her that we actually see her do anything of worth whatsoever
>>128555237
>Then again, is there a Penders character that people like because of what Penders himself did?
Yes, but those people are insane.
>>128557740
>cold blooded baker
>>128557740
How many people like Espio?
>>128558357
>voiced by Troy Baker
>>128558535
I'd say he has a decent sized fanbase. I'm not a huge fan of Espio but I still like him
>>128558535
I like him. Ninjas are cool and he's my favorite member of the Chaotix. I also own both of his official plushes.
>>128558535
The thing about Espio is that most people thinks that he's cool and all that, but it doesn't had a dedicated fanbase.
I guess that, considering how fanbases act against each other, Espio is in a sweet spot, even the worse enemies agree that he's cool.
>>128558713
>>128520632
>>128544579
Which sanic would make the best meido?
>>128561801
Nicole
>>128561801
Metal Sonic
Alan Rickman is dead.
what an improvement
>>128562689
They made great changes to the other characters. How did they fuck up so hard with Shadow?
>>128563060
>They made great changes to the other characters.
?
Fucking Jamie Rose. He's too radical
>>128564053
>that lady doom
>>128564053
These are pretty much all terrible.
>>128564589
It's funny because Vector looks exactly the same, almost like a bad transexual transition.
>>128562689
>We'll never have Classic Shadow
>He'll never look like this
That design is pretty cool
>>128564053
>the pigtails and jacket on that Tails
>>128564880
Ew that fucking snout on amy
>>128564880
Don't post furry outside of /b/.
>>128564880
>>128565079
I'd probably still hit it
>>128565079
THE WORK OF ONE WHO CONSORTS WITH BEASTS
>>128564880
>>128565079
>3. You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies, uncalled for catchphrases, macro image replies, indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?"), anthropomorphic ("furry") or grotesque ("guro") images, post number GETs ("dubs"), or loli/shota pornography.
So who's your favorite post-reboot character? Here's one of mine
>>128565702
They should update that since /trash/ exists.
>>128565951
You just posted her
>>128566058
>our new nip overlord
>knowing enough English to even know what the fuck that rule says
>>128565951
Razor
>>128565951
Cassia and Clove
>>128559631
It would help if the ever did anything.
>>128566681
That requires effort. Which is too much to ask for these days.
>>128535396
The pain continues to grow
>>128564053
Oh, Espio's wearing Boom Amy's outfit.
>>128556092
I like how Lien-Da went from unnamed minor villain to shoehorned in half-sister and honorary Kragok stand-in during most of Ken's tenure, was abandoned by Ken post Bollers "sullying" her, then jumped to "second most advertised and important character after Lara-Su" after the lawsuit.
Nigga pretends he gave a fuck AND that she was more than mildly popular when he was writing her.
>>128566921
post cute amy
>>128566995
>I like how Lien-Da went from unnamed minor villain to shoehorned in half-sister and honorary Kragok stand-in during most of Ken's tenure, was abandoned by Ken post Bollers "sullying" her, then jumped to "second most advertised and important character after Lara-Su" after the lawsuit.
And then claims that Ian had nothing to do with that AT ALL even though she became more important and had all of her development during Ian's run. What makes this more hilarious is that LSC is based in the MXYL timeline, where under Ken, Lien Da did jack shit and wass somehow on friendly terms with the sister she tried to murder repeatedly
How do we make his gameplay not shit?
>>128567326
Either have it be like it was in 3&K and the Advance trilogy or if you want to go full alternate playstyle, make it a beat 'em up
>>128567326
Give him the SA1 Emerald Radar. That's it.
>>128567243
Let's be fair: under Ken, Lien-Da only ever kidnapped and mind wiped Julie.
>>128567326
By not giving him gameplay at all.
>>128567243
The best part is that she only gained any relevance under Ken because of legit furries demanding the leather wearing chick show up again.
>>128567326
>Sonic Adventure gameplay mixed with Unleashed style.
>He's the werehog without being one.
>>128567326
Make a Sonic Unleashed type game where the night segments are with Knuckles
and where the gameplay isn't shit--
>>128567634
Exactly. Then Julie somehow warned everyone about how bad the Dark Legion would be if Lien Da took over, except she'd have no way of knowing that since lolmindwipe and we never see her do anything besides go "I wanna be Komissar" and look sort of evil
>>128567798
And how much of that was because of the artists, especially Butler?
>>128567774
Iizuka please
>>128567884
>and where the gameplay isn't shit
How would it be a Sonic game then?
>>128568585
Honestly, the day sections of Unleashed, Colors, and Generations weren't that bad.
If they kept that style and tweaked it a bit it would've been great
>>128568441
Remember. No super form.
>>128564053
Is unsurpassable... Why did I laugh?
>>128567929
>>128567243
>that feel when she is your waifu.
>>128567929
0%, given her first appearance was drawn by Jim Valentino, there was no art of her for her namedrop in Julie's backstory, her appearance in Super Special 14 (drawn by Butler) was entirely off model and she was wearing a baggy getup that made her less shapely than every other girl, and she was drawn by Ken and looked fugly as all hell in #99 and #100. By 99 she had already been promoted to "sex appeal lackey" from previous appearances. You could argue the decent art from Dawn Best in the next few stories gave her the extra prominence she had in the 110s, and this led to MXYL and RtAI (where she was finally drawn halfway decently), but the fan demand had swollen well before that.
>>128569012
FUCK YOOOOOOU
>>128569354
>You could argue the decent art from Dawn Best in the next few stories gave her the extra prominence she had in the 110s,
That's pretty much fact given she acted like every other villain, except somehow did less because Penders thinks all women are incompetent, crazy, or both
>>128567326
A spectacle-style fighting gameSTANDING
>>128565702
Sonic is kind of furry by nature, I think we can make an exception within reason here.
>>128569513
Except that story followed directly from the previous one, where Lien-Da taking over was set up. Those four or so panels may have caused more fan demand, but these things were already in motion.
It wasn't the art, it was the concept of "hot badguy wearing leather".
>>128569692
Only if pic related is a boss.
>>128569958
Fair enough.
Is *anyone* here going to Weston Super Sonic?Anyone? :'(
>>128564794
agreed
>>128555908
Pretty sure I've seen some Jap art of Finitevus, considering he's Nega-Knuckles.
>>128570162
I couldn't go to a Sonic convention even if I wanted to.
>>128564053
>Jamie Rose is unsurpassable
You're goddamned right.
>>128570091
>Fisty
Sounds like the name of a really, really bad porn star...
Metal is top-tier waifu material
>>128569974
I don't want him in the games because
1. he wouldn't be Tails' "main" enemy
2. he would be just total pushover
>>128564053
I actually really like that Espio and Vector. Would find the computer room for/10.
Okay /sth/, this shit is bugging me. Help me settle this pronunciation shit once and for all.
How the fuck is Lien-Da's name said? Is it basically Linda, like LEEN-duh?
>>128570795
>Kukku
>pushover
u 'avin a giggle m8?
>>128570772
No dice.
Is there a dedicated thread on one of the boards for Archie Sonic, or is the best we got?
not complaining but just curious
>>128571084
I always pronounced it Lee en Da
>>128571146
He's talking in terms of the games, because nobody but Sonic and occasionally Tails is allowed to be competent in those nowadays
>>128571146
no
I'm saying that the writers would write him as a total pushover which is one reason why I don't want him to the games
>>128571258
Nope. Outside of an occasional thread on /co/ and threads on /v/ (When it isn't just shitposting), this is where it's discusse
>>128571258
I wish /co/ would be the main place discuss it, but they stopped having threads.
>>128571275
Same, but I figured I was going about it the hard way. Just like I hate Ian's pronunciation of Finitevus, which is like fih-nih-tay-vuhs, because since his name is faux-Latin it should be fee-NEE-tay-voos.
Who is Rouge's boss? Is itFang the Sniper?
I could see them having a gender swapped Jessie and James kinda thing.
>>128571164
How about Mecha? Or Shard?
>>128571275
>>128571332
*clears throat*
Yeah, fair enough. I guess we can't have nice things as long as pic related and is pals are running the show. Now, if they were suddenly out of the picture...
>>128571680
>Who is Rouge's boss? Is it Fang the Sniper?
Gender swapped or not, it'd likely be the Gun Commander. I wonder what genderswapped Commander would look like
>>128571084
Ken met a girl at a con who loved the comic. She had a sister. Their names were Lien and Linda. Lara-Su's design was based on yet another female fan.
To actually answer your question, it's probably just how it looks: Lien (Lee en) Da.
you think they'll ever actually bring back Fang?
They brought back the Chaotix but a side antagonist like Fang who isn't Eggman-related could be fun. Same with the Battle Kuku
>>128572012
>you think they'll ever actually bring back Fang?
No.
>>128572012
>you think they'll ever actually bring back Fang?
Nope. Anyone that's from pre Adventure ain't coming back in the games unless it's via cameo
>>128572012
Maybe, seeing as how much they're trying to revert to the good old days. If they switch gears away from that even slightly I wouldn't count on it.
>>128572012
As long as Iizuka runs things like he is now, we'll only have "Sonic and Tails running around in an empty world cracking dumb jokes at eachother and beating Eggman"
>>128572012
no.
People might joke about it, but there's pretty much no chance of any character besides Sonic, Tails, Amy, Knuckles, and Eggman being in a game.
>>128572573
good thing we have Archie Sonic then
https://www.reddit.com/r/chemicalplantzone/
>>128565951
Looks like Yahoo has lost enough money on Tumblr that they're considering killing it. If there's any art on there, Sonic or otherwise, you can't find anywhere else better save it and reupload it somewhere else now.
>>128573260
Wait what?
>>128565951
>>128573260
As hilarious as that would be, I'm sure someone would just buy it from them
>>128573260
I can't see tumblr actually dying.
If it happened, the fireworks would be amazing.
>>128571084
Leein-da , desu.
>>128571719
Aaaand, it's a tie
>>128573627
Both Metal Sonics are equal, as they should be
Nicole?
>>128573447
>>128573473
Killing Tumblr would actually fit Yahoo's history. They've killed sites with large userbases on short notices before, all because they were losing money on them.
>>128573791
Where would I dump screencaps then?Blogspot?
>>128573957
Facebook, ya know, like a normal person.
>>128574027
Facebook is too normal though, I like getting silly questions and the quasi-anonymity.
>>128573957
In a reaction image threadlike you always do
>>128574152
Too bad faggot.
>>128573739
Couldn't tell which nocile was best, so I compared both the pre and post reboot Ones.
The results are.... Make of it what you want.
>>128574306
>>128574306
Pre-reboot Nicole is way better than post-reboot, so it's correct.
>>128574812
I do admit that I enjoy using that cute-o-meter. Got Any more name to feed to the machine ?
>>128573447
>>128573473
When it comes to online companies, Yahoo is like EA except they don't make money.
>>128575058
Throw the AoStH women in thereEspecially Mama Robotnik
>>128575058
Last one should be Tommy Turtle
>>128575058
Sally? eh why not
>>128574187
Sure
>>128567634
Uh no? She also ranted and raved about wanting to throw her out of an airlock instead of keeping her prisoner and tried to have one of her snipers take her out.
how does everyone feel about post-reboot Archie Sonic anyways?
I think it's better honestly
>>128571084
LEE-en-DA. It's a combo from fans named Lien and Linda. Remember, all this work is 100% original and not based on or inspired by anything else.
>>128575527
It's pretty good, but has yet to truly hit its stride. These last few issues have been great though
>>128575128
>>128575151
First batch, coming right in. Feel free to ask for more, it's funny.
>>128575527
I still prefer the Ian's pre-reboot run over the current universe right now.
>>128571619
He says "fin-ee-TEE-vus" actually. Which may have come from Jon.
>>128575058
Cassia, Clove, Lupe, Coral, Thunderbolt.
>>128574812
Foot fetishists leave.
>>128575921
I don't care about her feet.
I wanted to make another batch, but then I got this gem.
>>128576332
>>128576332
eh?
>>128576332
I don't think we need to go further anymore. That's the best you're gonna get right there.
>>128576618
They know
>>128575635
>Sally's percentage
damn straight
>>128575635
Where are you getting these
>>128576675
Welp I guess that's that, time to round up all the fanart and dump it on theridebooru.
>>128576771
Houba
>>128576853
Uh, no. Our booru should be for stuff made by drawfag or created for the general.
>>128571619
Unless I'm completely reading your phonetic spellings, Ian's pronunciation sounds more like logical Latin than yours. Unless you think his name is a fourth declension genitive.
>>128577034
*misreading
