Everyone Loves Greg Edition
New /gerg/ game, from the makers of Shadowrun Returns
http://battletechgame.com/
Mechwarrior Living Legends:
http://www.mechlivinglegends.net/
Living Legends Installer + Gamespy fix:
http://forum.mechlivinglegends.net/index.php?topic=19022.0
http://forum.mechlivinglegends.net/index.php/topic,20422.0.html
Living Legends Server Stats (Use this to check if anyone is playing):
http://stats.spikx.net/mwll.html
The HAWKEN zombie marches on:
https://www.playhawken.com/
Heavy Gear Assault:
http://www.heavygear.com/
M.A.V. (Now with more Chromehound legal rights!)
http://www.bombdogstudios.com/index.php/blog/
MechWarrior Online:
http://www.mwomercs.com/
New Player's Guide to MWO:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bmIEjECA6IbWRm92vmylZNv2QYVc5gXO7CT9jMITOrM/edit
MWO CW Map Viewer:
http://www.norrisdev.com/mwocw/
Kong PodKast #25: Heavy Gear Stuff
http://kongkast.libsyn.com/kong-kast-25-gear-bays-black-market-and-pets-oh-my
MWO Mechlab:
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab
MWO Heat Simulator:
http://keikun17.github.io/mwo_heat_simulator/
Kanajashi's Video Tutorials:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGPYOrhEFtg
Mumble Info:
Kong Mumble: kong-interstellar.typefrag.com
Port: 8270
I'm number 1!
2nd for another 748 shitposts
>warhammers next week
oh boy, time for another pay 2 lose shitmech
I hate pugging solo but I'm too green to consider joining group(s?)
help
>>128392035
Kong is a very tolerant and peaceful religion, I mean group sorry.
>>128392035
Too green to learn from people that know how to play? Is this a thing?
>>128392153
More like performers' anxiety, really.
>>128392129
complimentary grape drink?
>>128392153
No. People of all experience are welcome in kong. Just don't be a cunt.
>>128392203
We only offer two drinks:
1. salty tears
2. salty jizz
>>128392203
Ah I guess that makes sense but if you are upfront about being green and wanting to learn this shouldn't be a problem.
Can't wait for the new set of shitmechs with shit quirks, that will then be made even worse when they eventually release for c-bills.
2016, the year of mechwarrior!
>>128392203
This is 4chins. Nobody here is perfect. Don't stress about it.
alright gentlemen, how do we fix the shadowcat?
>>128395083
Double the energy hardpoints, remove the 400 tons of fixed jumpjets, make MASC not shit, give it weapon quirks, and up the engine rating to 300.
>>128395083
>>128395083
TT MASC speed values at least, 2E arms, and a 1M LT
A little more ER laser duration quirks too to make 3ERLL more viable with the omnipods we do have
![ShadowCat_II[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/crFnZUj.jpg "ShadowCat_II[1].jpg")
>>128395083
We:
Bump it up to 60 tons
Ferro
Endo
JJs
Optional MASC
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Shadow_Cat_II
>they'll never make clam JJs and MASC not fixed
>>128399397
>they will never give us actual Jump Jets
>we will be forever stuck with shitty "hover jets"
>>128395083
Make gauss rifle a viable weapon again
Yeah I know, never going to happen
When you see it
>>128403032
This happens routinely in the test environment too. Either delete everything in the thumbnails folder, or update the Dire in the camo spec. This is a known thing already.
>>128404430
I almost had a heart attack since I JUST bought the DW at the time. THought I somehow fucked up and bought the wrong thing somehow.
>>128395083
play a different game :)
btw where's my waifu 4 laifu horko?
About to get the pack for the IIC Jenner and Hunchback.
PLEASE DON'T BE A MISTAKE.
>>128407351
Prepare for disappointment
>>128407351
Don't feed the PIG.
>>128407351
Jenners are very good, and the hunchback is super squishy.
>>128407528
>>128407872
Oh.
>>128409150
Well, I was thinking about being super lame and LRMing with the IIC hunchback.
So, i'm the one planning to sell DWF an get teh ScatCat to replace Cheater in CW.
I saved whale and got kitty for the testing purposes. Annnd i fuckin love it. First drop in Vitric Forge - we're attacking, like the little shit i am - got myself on the rooftop to annoy defence forces.
18 mins, more than 1000 dmg (1070 or so) and a silly death - resilt of just one my Shadowcat mech, still three left.
Bite me.
>>128395648
Don't we have ghost heat for 3 clan ERLLs?
Is there a reason MWO looks like shit yet runs horribly?
>>128410497
deep-rooted cryengine errr... oh no, it's the other thing.
Lets say - fish.
>>128409491
>durr, I'm gonna drop 40 dollars on a light and a shitty medium.
>the medium will be used to boat lurms.
2/10.
>>128406498
ded bro
>>128411442
What should I spend it on then?
>>128411661
Bacon.
>>128411661
spend it on a rifleman you stupid fucking goy
get the Legend Killer while you're at it
>>128410497
Roughly a hundred years ago, MWO was like any other cryengine 3 game, which is to say it looked excellent.
Late in closed beta, they 'upgraded' their xbox 360 custom cryengine build. This broke the netcode so hard, they had to delay open beta for two weeks, it killed inverse kinematics, somehow erased DX11, and all the fancy features went MIA.
Sometime during open beta, someone at PGI decided it'd be a great idea to optimize cryengine 3 for antique 2006 dual cores, and you probably know the rest.
Last time they talked updates was when DX12 was announced, and Russ made some ridiculous statement that they will never upgrade their potato version of cryengine, because they apparently need DX8 and DX9 support - which were dropped by crytek in 2014.
>realizing that if I buy a Blackjack, I can cannibalize every part I need for it and it'll just be the cost of the frame
BLACKJACK HERE I COME
>put twin UAC5s on a Blackjack
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=79&l=2687fc03fe4f9997c47f545bd15d5c7d1fae93af
Yes???
>>128412920
It's pretty standard and should let you wreck faces.
>>128410497
toaster optimizations
outdated cryengine
pissed off crytek so bad they won't offer any support
all coders are first year interns
original competent code was handed off to the incompetent pig
So a week or so ago I blew some MC on the hunchback pack and since I've played them quite a bit I'm not really feeling them. Probably wasted too many c-bills on them too in the process...
Any suggestions for a good mech/mastery bundle worth blowing MC on?
>>128418305
What weight class do you feel like?
Unlimited small lasers just werk
>>128418305
Thunderbolts and Blackjacks are the actual best in class mechs right now. There are acceptable alternatives but don't settle for second best. the 5SS thunderbolt literally the most horrifying heavy brawler in the game right now. Should you choose to acquire Thunderbolts, make sure your first priority is to get max MPL range and cooldown for the 5SS. When you get the extra module slot eventually you should put the LPL cooldown module in and swap out an MPL for a LPL.
For real Thunderbolts are crazy good and crazy fun.
>>128418452
I've only played Mediums so far, I haven't tried heavy or assault, and I don't think I'd do any good at Light. Although I was tempted to jump in as a Firestarter and just learn the hard way.
>>128418795
I haven't looked into Thunderbolts actually. They seem cool.
>>128419020
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=115&l=af6bc5fecde6ff9f78673b0b015b57df307dbda0
This is what I run on the 5ss with both MPL and the cooldown LPL modules. That graph to the side saying firepower is the alpha strike damage and you might notice that it's fucking huge. Furthermore, you get like 3 alpha strikes before you overheat.
>>128419020
Do you even trials?
>>128419020
Don't fall for the Firestarter meme if you want a light. No ECM and it's fucking huge. Get something smaller with ECM, I enjoyed the Arctic Cheetah.
How do we make the Urbanmech decent?
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=277&l=512c7d73d9f8fab0d2e1bfc29b95873b27c54b47
This build surprisingly works in pubs. Any ideas on how to make it a little less shit?
>>128421696
I like the part where you combine an ER PPC with 11 dubs, 7 of which are truedubs, for guaranteed zero damage dealt on Mordor and autistic valley.
>>128420154
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=291&l=0673c22705b1651b68e33300644d53eb895cf864
This build still relevant?
>spend the entire match flanking in a fucking KGC
What the fuck is wrong with me.
>actually have a good round in a light mech
>shadowplay wasn't recording
Why did I not turn it on now of all times.
>decide yesterday I want to buy a Blackjack
>check today to see how much I need
>they're on sale
fucking incredible
this is great
considering all the sales, pack discounts, rallying to pull more positive reviews and profish release for steam. am i smelling fear and despiration at pgi?
or is this cockroach company gonna continue being shitters in gaming forevermore?
>keep forgetting that DHS costs 1.5mil on every single IS mech
fuck
Would an Atlas be a bad choice for someone who is still fairly new? I don't really see any other way of learning it than to dive in head first.
>>128422072
>http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=291&l=0673c22705b1651b68e33300644d53eb895cf864
Perfectly fine desu.
>>128426849
>combined numbers SHOULD have had us in the top 45
Russ please. Post some actual numbers or fuck right off.
Its 5am, west coast america, and the #45 game on steam right now with the most players currently playing is "Space War" at 3948 players. Just slightly under MWOs all time fucking high.
Russ, this is seriously pathetic.
http://steamcharts.com/top/p.2
>>128427931
Honestly, the trial Atlas is kinda fine. I would however like to state that the Atlas becomes stronger the more cohesive a team you have. Atlas's main role is to be in front dealing horrendous burst, then torso twisting and tanking like 3 enemy mechs while your squad shoots past you and destructo's the enemy team. The problem is that you often die even when it goes well so if you don't have a good team to trust it's a little hard to play the Atlas to its full potential, in which case you may as well be the King Crab (the trial of which is also supremely fine).
>>128428436
>Ultra AC-5s and Medium lasers
>fine
deb threb
wow
>>128434880
wew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cJKLZg53qw
>>128435663
Why is the fucking Jenner as big as the Atlas? Why is the Catapult so small? I mean what the fuck, this scaling is worse than PIG.
>>128435897
They arent supposed to be in scale, the catapult is so small because he wanted to make it at the smallest scale his printer could do
Guys is mwo p2w?
>>128426849
They're desperate. Russ knows his shitty company will evaporate when they lose the license in two years, if not before then.
>>128426849
>we'd be top 10 on steam, guys.
>top 25, I guarantee.
>top 50, swear on me mum.
>top 100, no problem whatsoever!
>what I meant to say was we'd be top 45!
Amazing position changes in only three months.
>struggle to get any Cbills as a new starter
>takes ages to even aquire any decent mechs
>finally grind out a half decent assault mech
>consult the internet for cookie cutter builds
>raking in the Cbills
god damn no wonder people have this game since you have to spend an eternity in a limbo where you cant actually do anything but use trial mechs which have some of the worst set ups in existance.
>>128439750
The trials are bad, but they used to be shit, and before that, they were suicide ovens.
PGI developers famously claimed that stock trials totally weren't trash, and that they could totally rank in as *TOP 8 ON THEIR TEAM* in them.
>>128439750
>he wasnt here for the 3 Paul-economy cbil nerfs
We used to make so much money now you're lucky to make jack and shit you mostly just get shit
How is the balance in MWO?
Are there objectively bad mechs, downright unplayable mechs or is it the classic, some mechs are better than others but as long as the pilot is good, the "good-ness" or "bad-ness" of a mech is negligible?
So, why is this game so unpopular? I'm new what is this.
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>>128441726
There is no balance. You get shitmechs, minimally viable mechs, meme mechs that do one thing well, and one thing only, and then there's the top tier.
Top tier is more about your hitboxes, your geometry, size compared to other robots in your weight class, if you have jump jets or not, how high up your mounts are, if you can take a ballistic and tons of lasers, ECM, engine cap, and so on.
>>128441761
Because it's a bad game made by a bad company, that spent many years lying and abusing their customers. Only when it became obvious that they'd go out of business did they start doing work, and now they want people to congratulate them for doing a mediocre job.
>>128442264
>Because it's a bad game made by a bad company, that spent many years lying and abusing their customers. Only when it became obvious that they'd go out of business did they start doing work, and now they want people to congratulate them for doing a mediocre job.
How sad. So we should wait 2yrs for a hopefully better one.
>>128442528
>better mechwarrior game
Next one should be in 20 - 40 years. Hope you can wait that long
>>128435663
That's pretty cool, I wonder if there are already prepared files out there.
>>128442641
>20 - 40 years
Welp. Guess it's enjoy eating shit or go hungry, then.
>>128443045
Eat shit for two years, then starve.
>tfw just started playing a month ago and really liking it but already can see there's no progress to really be made without spending real money after the new player bonus is over
Bought a Timber Wolf C and 3 Hunchbacks in the recent sale but there went all my C-Bills and Mech Bay space. Trying to do Faction War with mostly trial mechs and teams of randoms always against full premades is impossible. GG I guess.
>>128445831
not only do you need at least 4 mechs for Community Warfare, but you also need 2 more mechs of the same chassis as each of those four to grind out at least tier 1 skills on all of them, then grind the tier 2 skills on the one you want to use. Then you need to grind out the millions of cbills needed to buy the weapon and mech modules you'll need to be on an even footing.
and even then you can't beat 48 mechs on your own, you'll need the 11 other pilots on your team to have done the same grinding as you. Only then will you have bumped up your chances to "hypothetically fair". Your rando pug will not likely have the co-ordination, communication and player experience required to put you on a truly even footing with the premades.
Welcome to Faction Warfare, where only the truly autistic thrive
>>128445831
You don't need to win to get to rank 2.
You only have to play a few matches and get some kills and damage.
>>128446876
The grinding of multiple variants of the same mech had to be the biggest gripe with the grind right?
>>128447093
That's true, but it still makes playing an unpleasant experience compared to quick matches. A real shame too, I think the mode is better than the others from a gameplay standpoint.
>>128390887
how can anyone hate the cent AH when it's such a perfect backstabber
took down five heavies in my last match with that ac20 srm12 combo, felt like pure sex
pic related
>>128440376
was that back when the game was 8v8?
>>128448118
You mean real objectives other than "stand in this square"?
>>128447652
Yes, by far. Personaly, secound would be the ludicrous price of mech and weapons modules.
>Want a few % more range on ur lazors, goy?
>That's 6 gorillion cbill and gxp
>>128442161
I am already gone never to return.
drops happening
>>128451009
no they are not
>>128449824
What's the best clan mech?
Which is the better medium brawler build?
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=28&l=942a74d11050f39455fe22d45d51105b492ce6b6
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=61&l=b91cb1f7b3afbe92acc3b709706dd987f78b8943
>>128454305
>medium brawler
>>128454305
>Trebuchet
>medium brawler
>>128454168
the ebin is pretty cool guy
>>128454406
>>128454739
Spare me
>>128454305
this nigga
>>128454887
No. What's worse is that you even considered lasers and non ART. srms for "brawling".
Also, if you're going to do mediums like this, XL engines are really the only way to go. Hunchback is the rare exception of "medium that you never put an XL in".
>>128454168
>annoyed kitten
>hellbringer
>ebin jag
>shitcrow
>dire whale
>cheetah
>>128451009
I'd like to play with you guys later but I'm not very good.
>>128458706
Like that stops anyone. If you're new it's the best way to learn how to play. Kong and Gonk both are glorified pug groups.
How's the Kintaro?
>>128460187
Shit. Get a Griffin if you want something with MISSILE. Don't do lurm though.
Rifleman? I'd rather have the Wyvern. It may move like a heavy, but at least it saves on tonnage and has jets.
>>128460660
Elaborate.
>>128460878
>small engine.
>saves on tonnage.
>MWO.
>bringing a robot with less than a 250 engine.
>ever.
>>128460878
The wyvern isnt in this game is it? Its been a while since I visited gerg. Have I missed anything?I doubt it but it's still worth asking
>>128461330
No, I meant I'd rather they add the Wyvern to the game.
>>128461137
There ain't nutin to elaborate. Lurming is for shitters. Griffin is the best IS medium when it comes to missile (read: srm) builds. It has jumpjets, ECM, a good missile hardpoint clustering and high mounts. Even the fucking hunchback 4j outperforms kintaro at lurming. Only really usefull IS mediums are the griffin and the overquirked blackjack at the end of the day.
>>128461956
I wasn't planning on using LRMs.
Hell, I'd prefer not using missiles at all, but energy+ballistic mediums are basically nonexistant outside of the Enforcer.
>>128462575
>not using missiles
>energy+ballistic
Blackjack does exactly that. Enforcer is alright, too, actually.
>>128458706
Playing with a group is a lot more fun, and you'll learn more being dropped into the deep end as well.
https://mwomercs.com/tournaments?t=201601champion3
There's absolutely no way this event will be a failure.
OK HEY SO I can't get this fucking game to fullscreen properly
when I launch it it's this shitty little window in the middle of my screen
if I change the settings to fullscreen, it looks like ass and doesn't correctly display where the mouse cursor is. Using Alt+enter to force fullscreen "works" but the resolution is completely shit.
This morning when I launched it, the fullscreen worked properly (correct resolution, didn't look like ass) for the first time ever, and I've no idea why. It has since stopped working. The game is set to 1920x1080, same as my monitor.
Any ideas?
>>128463070
I have an ENF-4R and love it to death but I don't want to only use it forever.
>>128463437
The game always launches in a window, once the engine starts up (aka you log in) it should work fine in my experience.
>>128463218
This event is easy as shit and those are some damned fine prizes
>>128464025
Well, it does that, sort of, but when it does the game itself is in a low resolution and looks like aforementioned ass (Like it was being zoomed in on; everything is super pixelated, the menus are much larger than they should be) and the mouse cursor does not display correctly.
Alt-tabbing or alt-entering out and back in fixes the mouse, but does nothing for the "blown up" resolution.
What are the best light mech builds where you go fast? I've fallen in love with the trial Raven.
>>128463873
You have it elited? If not get some other enforcers. If you do however, you want something different that still uses ballistics and lazors, right? Does it have to be medium and/or IS?
>>128463437
Just play in full window. Best setting.
>>128463437
>>128464025
>>128465332
this is what happens when I screenshot everything with the game open.
The black box is where the game window should be, in full screen, on my 1920x1080 monitor. Note the box does not fit those dimensions.
The rest is what is being "pushed over," for lack of a better term, to the second monitor, which is 1600x900.
>>128465563
you're right, but alas, this is what happens when I try.
using alt+enter while it's like this results in >>128465759
>>128465508
I don't have it elited yet. Was hoping to get a few different mechs first for some variety before deciding which one I want to focus on first. As much as I love my 4R there might be one I enjoy more.
I also have a SHD-2D for if I actually want to play with some SRMs, but I'm finding I still prefer Ballistics and energy.
Also, IS, primarily. Been fucking around with that smurfy app and I dislike how rigid clan mechs are in regards to armor and structure and that upgrade stuff.
Current options for purchase so far are BJ-1, HBK-4G, VND-1X and maybe a Centurion, nor sure which variant, though.
>>128465409
Cheetahs, ravens and firestarters are gud.
Cheethas usualy use 6 spl. Raven 3l with 2 erll, 4x with 2lpl or 2x with 3ll. Firestarter 9s or 9a with mpl.
>>128466168
>BJ-1, HBK-4G, VND-1X and maybe a Centurion
Avoid the centurion and vindicator for sure.
Hunchback is alright but the blackjack is better and very much meta atm. Its even discounted as of right now, so I would recomend it.
>>128463218
>champion cicada
wow it's fucking nothing
>>128466102
>>128465759
Well shit. Try going to
C:\Users\your username here\Saved Games
There is a mechwarrior fodler. Try backing that up somewhere then deleting it from here, then relaunch the game?
>>128463218
I look forward to all this free stuff.
>>128466518
Free mechbay tho
>>128463218
>'Kill Most Damage Done'
The heck does this mean?
>>128467054
you did the most damage to an enemy that you might not have killed
>>128467039
>free mechbay tho
yeah like I don't already have plenty of those as it is
>>128467054
Get the most damage done on a target that's killed (I think regardless of whether or not you get the kill but maybe I'm wrong)
>>128465759
>>128466102
I don't know, man. Seems like your machine's not up to snuff/deep-rooted cryengine errors/it's all your fault.
>>128467285
>>128467218
Oh thanks, that makes sense now.
>>128467039
>13 open Mech Bays
Yeah no. The only thing that is valuable in that entire grindfest is the paint.
>>128466694
Well, this let me figure out the problem. After I deleted the folder, it defaulted to DX9 and had the right resolution. Changing it to 11 made it fuck up. That shouldn't be a problem but hey, apparently it is. Cheers anon.
>>128467395
I'm gonna go with "deep-rooted cryenging errors" and/or "it's all my fault"
>>128467589
>grindfest
>something you should be getting a couple of every round
Fuck off.
>>128467816
MWO is a literally a spot on perfect game, with cutting-edge graphics, and the best business model ever.
Anyone seen the classic white knights lately? I don't think I've read a single shillpost by Heffay for like 4 months.
>>128468567
Probably killed himself.
>>128468567
>2000 a day
>4000 all time best
>>128469721
https://steamdb.info/app/342200/graphs/
Monday hit them really hard this week.
>>128468567
True. Guess I'll just suffer through dx9, it's better than the pixelated low resolution hell I was in before, I guess.
>>128470305
Hey man, they've got 10k total with a whopping 6k these last two weeks.
They're doing GREAT.
I want to buy a mastery bundle (or a few mechs if clan) but I'm not sure what to get. I'm still fairly new, and so far my main experience has been with hunchbacks (admittedly, I've been LRMing with the 4J lately). I have considered brawling, but I'm not sure if I'm brave enough for that yet.
I haven't trialed any lights yet either, I do see people say the Cheetah is awesome though.
>>128470806
>Playtime total: 7.5h (average) 47m (median)
>47 minutes
Jesus how horrifying.
>>128471041
That's like 3 games.
>>128471119
If you're a new player it's the tutorial or just enough to leave a negative review of the game.
>>128471509
Yeah I suppose.
Does Ferro Fiberous armour actually make you more resilient or is it just a tonnage saver?
>1/10th the players as MWO
>MWO
What in the hell is wrong with you people?
>>128474945
that game still exists?
>>128474945
Hawken is an absolute pile of shit, while MWO has some mild fun involved?
>>128475501
You're entitled to an opinion but if it's that revolting then keep it to yourself.
>>128474945
I thought Hawken shut down a year ago?
>>128475910
>actually plays Hawken
The mech design is so garbage it's ridiculous. I don't know how much it has changed since I played it in early Alpha, but it was dogshit back then and I didn't enjoy it at all.
I mean one of the mechs is literally a CRT television on legs, what the fuck?
>>128476078
You're going to tell me Mechwarrior has great mech designs?
>>128476078
My experience was that it was literally just a crappy FPS with slow as shit movement speed. Can't imagine anyone wanting to play a game like that.
>>128476815
Compared to this eye cancer, absolutely. Mechwarrior mechs are generally fantastic looking. You have shit taste.
>>128476817
Nah, limited turning rates + boosting/dodging/jetpacking makes skillful movement crucial. You also have to juggle managing fuel, dodge cooldown, and weapon cooldown while watching the minimap. That's in addition to actually being able to aim. It's mostly movement/positioning based.
>>128476949
They look like humanoid robot toys from the 90's. I could care less what you think of Hawken mechs but everyone knows Battletech is retro as hell and 80% legs.
>>128477562
>Battletech is retro as hell and 80% legs.
Good thing I'm a leg guy. :^)
>>128440376
>top 8
>2/3rds of the team
>possibly the entire team
>something worth talking about
>>128471041
The game is very bad at generating stickiness. Steam babies don't have the ancient guilds full of old men to peer pressure them into being the nth guy in the drop 'just this once, please,' and the community is at least 50% of the MWO experience.
But surely, PGI knew this, and prepared for it by making better tools for the guilds, a big chat room where you can try to score new players, a mentor system, made private matches not cost real money, redesigned the maps to not be so shit, made the graphics fit for 2016, and- oh, wait, they didn't do anything.
It's still too early to gauge their steam success, but I'm gonna be super surprised if they can even maintain their 2200~ concurrent into february.
>>128470926
Don't buy anything until you've played for like a month. PGI's most common trap is to snare people with promises of fun gameplay, then once their elo/tier increases somewhat, they realize it's not fun, and quit after having blown 7 bucks on mechbays.
Just grind robots like a normal person.
>>128463218
So, wait, does it count does it count as a 'kill most damage d>>128473436
Saves weight, costs slots (and cbills). Of course, you could spend your newfound free weight on more armour.
>>128470926
you should have enough cbills from your cadet bonus to buy your first mech, don't spend any cash until you've played at least like 50 games
>>128473436
it only saves tonnage, and it always saves less than endo. it's only worth using on a few light builds with more crit space than they can ever really use
>>128475910
hawken had some great ideas but the technician and incinerator literally ruined everything. they're antithetical to the games design.i've played on and off since alpha and have technician maxed on xpI actually like the mech designs
>hawken official website hasn't even been updated to include the incinerator
>mfw
>>128476815
Hawken's design was so shit and offensive, the first thing reloaded did was remove the CRT recruit, and give everybody an assault instead.
Even the new owner fucking hates the dishwashers and septic tanks bullshit, but was smart enough to realize it was costing him business sticking people with the ugliest robot as the default.
>>128481368
Yeah, as someone who has only started playing since the Steam release, I have to agree. I don't see it staying above 1000 players soon. It's a fun game, but hellish to play as a new player without anyone else to play with. Faction matches are unwinnable so it's not enjoyable (last one I just did was apparently against a pro German team and they slaughtered us in minutes and spawncamped our dropships) and there's no competing with them with most of the trial mechs. I don't mind the graphics, they look decent enough, and the game runs well for me. But the original community of middle aged assholes taking clan shit too seriously and shitting on new players kill this harder than the absurd grind for money already does.
![2014-03-22_00002[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2q6RbZa.jpg "2014-03-22_00002[1].jpg")
>>128481781
>but the technician and incinerator literally ruined everything.
It's a very slightly OP combo but it's not that big of a deal. People still play literally every mech so there's no game balance issue big enough to screw up the game.
>>128482335
Sounds like somebody got assraped by the bsod and never recovered.
>>128482505
Really there should be non-clan something for CW so that newbie random pugs don't get matched against pre-mades. It's so awful since CW seems to be the actual meat of the game, but it's almost entirely inaccessible for anyone not in a clan
Are 6 LRM5s really better than 2 LRM20s?
>>128484087
yes
>>128483286
not even the combo, just what they bring to the team. in my experience you're literally required to have at least as many techs as the enemy team if you want to win a pub game, and incinerator is just icing on the cake for team pushes.
>>128484616
How is this thing supposed to compare to the Marauder, again?
>best robot game of the decade
>>128484616
Honestly, it looks fucking shit.
I know they've decided not to stick super close to the original, but that barely looks like the source material.
>boob lasers.
>the PPC arms will get fucked over with lego cancer.
>nipple machineguns.
>>128484616
>>128485456
I'm actually really excited for this, I've been waiting for the Warhammer and the Rifleman since the day the game was announcedor rather since Mechwarrior 5 was announcedToday I will remind themhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC2lsZU_Y4A
>>128482505
It's bizarre how the casual mode is super fun and you can wreck people with trial mechs, and the autism mode you're forced to play if you want more mechbays is absolutely terrible. Getting matched with a 12 person murderball clan is the worst shit I've ever seen.
>>128485456
Too bad the source material is stolen from some nip cartoon.
Back to the cuck-shed weeb fag.
>>128485834
It's almost like there's a reason every other game ever made insists on not mixing pubs and the MLG elite.
>>128483456
Yeah, it really needs to be changed because it doesn't work as it is.
>>128485834
My thoughts exactly. I've gotten 8 kill matches with a couple of the trial mechs in quick play and it's generally very fun, never feels that unbalanced but the rewards are minimal and the objectives in faction are more fun and interesting. It's just practically unplayable unless you've put hundreds of hours in already to get a full drop of decent mechs and have a full team to play with. I need Mech Bays but it's such a painful slog to get them.
>>128485834
Most fun I've had pugging in CW was doing defense against the Clans and getting teamed with pre-mades that were short a lance, if you're against randoms you have a really good shot at winning and can still have fun, and if you get matched against pre-mades you still stand a chance as long as the other pugs with your aren't retarded and work with clanfags.
>>128468567
regulars flood the steam hole looking more like a cult everyday but nothing significantly insane/ lolworthy.
>>128485789
Here, I made a more realistic version.
>>128486486
>standalone games
>listed as expansion packs
wtf is this?
>>128486775
>In-game screenshot
>hehe le it will look like this
>>128484616
I find this lack of inverse kinematics disturbing.
MW3 > MWO
>>128485456
>boob lasers.
>the PPC arms will get fucked over with lego cancer.
>nipple machineguns.
>cockpit recycled from kintaro and banshee
>thunderbolt shoulder pads
its shit/10
Apparently I bought 12k MC at some point. Should I blow it all on Arctic Cheetahs because I have fuck all cbills right now.
>>128486197
>rewards are minimal
I think as long as you do well consistently you can get about the same amount as you would in Factions. You can do two or three Quick matches in the time it takes for one Faction match to organize and finish.
>>128488735
>I bought $50 of MC at some point
I've made this mistake too. Don't need mech-bays?
>>128489579
That is true, but you can't get mech bays, MC, or the bonus gxp and C-Bills for ranking up lotalty.
>>128488735
Mechbays, a mastery pack that has a good hero mech like the stalker pack, premium time. Other than that, don't bother buying anything else.
>>128489635
I'm good for mech-bays rigtht now. What I don't have is any lights, and not many heavies. If I blow it on Cheetahs I still have around 3.5k left over, so I could grab some more mech-bays then if need be.
>>128490565
buying standard mechs with mc is one of the worst investments you could ever do
>>128484616
>>128485789
Well uhh
it could look worse
>>128490565
Aight. Have fun then.
Cheetos feel too limited on builds for me personally.
Also not really sure why'd you buy them with MC when they're out for C-Bill, less you just really don't want to grind for them.
>>128490831
Well, judging from previous comments I shouldn't buy them with MC. Maybe I'll look into a mastery bundle, otherwise I'll just hold onto them for now.
>>128491272
What mechs do you currently own?
>>128491272
Yeah, that's the best advice. Mechs for MC, unless they're Heros, is a dumb idea.
I blew my MC on camo's, and have the prettiest mechs around.
So I'm thinking of replacing a mech in my drop deck with... something. I haven't decided yet. It adds up to 240 with 20 tons left over. Don't know with what or what I need.
>Kit Fox (2 LPL, ECM)I mess with this one's build a lot
>Mad Dog (6 LRM5s, 4 ERMLs)
>Stormcrow (4 ERMLs, 3 Art+SRM6s)
>Executioner (UAC20, 4 ERML)
>>128491961
In my experience people shoot the faggots that have colourful mechs first.My Jade falcon coloured Executioner draws more fire than it should just by existing.
>>128492346
My suffering. I want to look cool, but I know if I spend money to change from IS Olive Drab I'm going to get focused down like crazy. Nobody expects anything from Green Mech #20 but the guy in a tricked out Firestarter or a Dazzled up Stormcrow attracts a lot of attention.
Do people still prioritize guys painted say, basic (c-bill) red?
>>128492123
>>Mad Dog (6 LRM5s, 4 ERMLs)
...so you're one of 'these' assholes.
>>128492346
...I have noticed people tend to snap onto me when they see my pink and white hunchback.
>>128492123
>not 4 Mad dogs
Get out faggot
>>128493159
C-Bill Purple makes you invisible.
>>128494607
Does it? I figured it'd be good dark environment camo. My question is, does a dark grey/blue/black premium color have the same camo effect or do people still actively pick out the guy in the jet black mech.
>>128495284
Depends on the map really, but from what I've seen, black tends to be kind of shiny so unless the map is already dark colored or at night it doesn't disguise well. Probably harder to spot than bright colors at any rate though.
Tempted to buy a Mad Dog for my first ever clan mech. Do people REALLY hate Mad Dog LRM boats as much as I read?
>>128497691
Nah, Do it, but use something like this
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=212&l=89ceaa9275a615341d8f387ff6379ebadb8fadca
>>128497691
I don't know why they say that. My Executioner consistently outdamages my Mad dog on a per life basis. People just hate taking damage from things they can't see or fight back.
Like how people bitched about Artillery in WoT.
>>128495284
>Does it?
There was a legendary Konglet named JackAttack who had all of his mechs colored in C-Bill Purple. He was able to get behind and back-core everyone, he always racked up tons of damage and tons of kills. Nobody ever shot at him either. He was the master shaq player.
>Event starts up
>LRM boats
>LRM boats everywhere
>LRM boats FUCKING EVERYWHERE
>they'll all just sit there long range-ing whatever they can without actually killing them to reap the goodies
>all the premakes are gonna sip on pissbaby tears because ECM light buttfucking
>>128498842
>>128498842
>>128499652
>not running fast mechs with triple ams and ecm
>not raping lrmfag shitters
do you even mech bro?
>>128498612
>tfw JackAttack will never drop with us again and carry us to the spudland
jack pls come back
>>128500826
Jack wasn't even that good.
>>128501425
LYNCH HIM HE DARES SPEAK ILL OF OUR GLORIOUS LEADER
>>128500826
Jack is dead, Greg. It's a good thing. His body is the great tree that, being felled, leaves room for the rest of us to grow. Rather than waiting for him to come back, maybe you should attempt to take his place.
>>128503909
>says the yankee
>>128503909
I agree that we should not look to the past to define ourselves. This is why i have chosen to evolve myself within the Something Awful community.
I would recommend others to follow suit. I dont like kaelus
>>128503909
>Telling Greg to step the fuck up
>Raptor noises intensify
>>128484616
>>128485789
I still hate those tiny super-low-slung PeePees so much. So so much.
>5 minutes in GIMP
>scale is 130-135%
I've never played a full on mech game before. mwo looks pretty fucking cool, even if a lot of the f2p elements are shitty. do you guys hate it as fans of previous mechwarrior games, or do you hate it because it's legitimately a bad game?
>>128505149
Its an average game. Litterally 6/10 material. We hate the people running the company that is developing the game. At one point we collectively hated them so hard we burned down the internet. Pic related.
>>128505149
>do you guys hate it as fans of previous mechwarrior games, or do you hate it because it's legitimately a bad game?
A lot of the former and some of the latter. It's not that the game is completely shit, it's that devs that don't know what they're doing are ruining what could be immensely better if they were competent.
>>128505149
In 2013 the developers blatantly gave up working on the game by funelling millions of founders cash into a shitty star citizen clone. That has pretty much been remedied as of now with transverse failing miserably, leaving PGI the only option of keeping MWO alive.
Second reason people are salty is that once you get into higher elos, the game gets unfun real fast. As a stompy robot game it is the best out there but people expected more, especially after the abandoned 2009 MW5 trailer.
Other random piecemeal things where PGI changed their direction against the founders best wishes and general incompetence over 4 years wore into people. Balance and grind are always cyclically returning issues
>>128505025
>>128492123
3 identical Mad Dogs with LRM spam pods, 1 Brawlcrow with SRMs for cleanup.
>>128391924
Expect to see people using them as...laserboats.
PPCs, LOL.
>>128445831
If you're not at least in your faction's TS grouping up with units, you're doing it wrong.
If you're having to use trials, you're also probably doing it wrong.
CW is hard mode, because there is nothing shielding you from the top of Mt. Tryhard smiting you with laservomit, as there is no matchmaker like pubbies get. You fight who's there. If you suck, you get seal-clubbed.
That being said, the best way to newbie CW is honestly to just grind out rank 2 in a faction, then switch. Repeatedly. Each R2 you manage is a free Mechbay, and those are by far the handiest things around.
>>128506373
The preview video indicates that there are very high velocity quirks at least.
I cannot use big lasers on my MAD-3R, I just can't. It feels wrong and I play worse.
>>128463218
Wat.
>no more killstealing assholes getting your points in a single poke because it's "most damage done" that gets you the reward on a kill
>easily cannibalized for C-bills chassis with a fat 340XL
This is gonna be quick and easy for me.
>>128483456
Honestly, no. Pugs need to have a 4v4 mode that 1) gets faster games and 2) keeps them out of the big unit shark tanks.
And CW is accessible to single players, mind you. But they've basically got to go on the forums, find out the factional TeamSpeak servers, and get on them to at least be in a properly linked up group.
Liao is like that all the time- our "big units" tend to be more likely half an actual unit + PUGs that get taught to work with the unit. Or multiple lance-sized units glommed into a queue. Again, same difference.
>>128485834
That's because you're playing with a matchmaker in casual mode.
Rank up a bit and you'll run into the murderball-level players (when you hit Rank 3) and you can experience true robot hell in the pub queue as well.
But that's F2P mode. They -want- you to spend at least a few bucks on enough MC for MechBays- or else pick em up during one of the challenges.
Take the one starting the 14th. You putz around in casual queue, you eventually get a 'Mech- which comes with a free Mechbay. Don't like Cicadas? Strip it, sell the chassis, you got an open bay and money (keep the XL340 engine if you keep anything, as engines are a big money sink).
F2P games are like that. You can do things slow and painful and free, quick with real money, or if you know the ropes, you can at least minimize grind.
Likewise, around Christmas they had one with random prize bits, including MC. A few challenges and you'll end up gradually scraping together enough to keep a decent number of 'Mechs and not go crazy.
It's also worth noting that elite-leveling a 'Mech matters, as it doubles the effectiveness of basic skills- and mastering one means you've got an extra mech/weapon module slot unlocked. Both can considerably improve a chassis's performance.
>>128501425
Get dunked.
>kaelus probably won the lotto and now is gonna go make his own KONG
>>128474945
Nothing has to be wrong. People still play the game and have fun.
>>128475910
preach
>>128475501
bait
>>128476078
>mech design is garbage
>mechs are literally garbage
You did learn something from the game!
>>128482335
>opinion=fact
>>128481781
The big picture for hawken was always more mechs and more playstyles. Were the tech and incin balanced poorly? Yup.
>>128485179
They're only a problem in servers with players that are new or don't know what to do about it. Every tech on a team is the weakest link in the chain. Incins aren't that grand unless the pilot is.
>>128390887
So is the mumble button supposed to be grayed out or what?
pinging works fine.
>>128508761
>It's also worth noting that elite-leveling a 'Mech matters
It helps but... it's not super noticable. I mastered one of my lights and other than going slightly faster than my other light lancers I barely notice much of a difference.
>>128509189
well shit nevermind it's working now.
Just how are you supposed to use PPCs? It never seems like they do very much even when I hit consistently.
>>128509380
Speed tweak is a huge deal for lights and then you got stuff like better cooling/turning. For bigger robots the extra agility is a very big and noticeable boost, especially stuff like torso twist.
